Installing Red Hat Linux 8.0 on the $5 Windows 98 PC!
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It's about time we do another Linux distro install on the 98 PC! Today we're taking a look at Red Hat 8.0, released in 2002. Huge thanks to David for sending this out to me!
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Who would've thought that a single $5 purchase would bring so much interesting content to a channel?
It has probably paid for itself multiple times by now.
Like me, I have a $2 Dell Inspiron 6000 laptop from 2005. Still works fine on XP. I made a video of me trying to put Windows 10 on it and it turned out to be my most popular video.
@@sburton015 damn maybe i have to go to a thrift store some day, i am interested a lot in old tech but I've never really owned any old tech.
i know, right?
@@dani.munoz.a23 I actually found it at a flea market. Apparently he was going to throw it out. It shows a BIOS date of 1-12-2005. I could even use it for running games from 2002 or earlier.
This channel is becoming like Druaga1 except you’re not high on weed and less stuff goes wrong
haha lol lmao
@@Chrisisfort haha lol lmao
Oml that's sooooo true 😂😂😂😂😂
I remember that Linux Mandrake install he did
And not going crazy over a SSD.
1:26 Red Hat Linux wasn't really killed, it was just killed as a commercial product. It was merged into the Fedora project, starting with (if I recall correctly) RHL being reworked into Fedora Core, with the Fedora Linux Project being reworked into Fedora Extras. Eventually, both merged into just "Fedora". The Bluecurve visual style was dropped some years before both Core and Extras merged, in favour of the default visual styles for the desktop environment being used, with the only visible changes being distro branding where required, and the desktop background. (Edit 3 years later: also the menu button icon on some desktop environments)
On a side note, this reminds me of an open-source software project I had an idea to do, which would be an umbrella project for various projects resurrecting various old Linux visual styles and applications to work on modern desktop environments and distributions, alongside new original tools for configuring certain things.
I can't Linux without a Bluecurve theme.
@@dmmikerpg
Me neither.
Red Hat Linux Enterprise is sold as a commercial product, and Fedora is a project that is maintained by Red Hat and other Community members. Red Hat was bought from Oracle and is owned today by IBM.
Red hat is commercial? I just spent 1 hour trying to get a red hat iso while not owning a company
@@SSG_Productions
You're probably thinking of an evaluation version of Red Hat Enterprise Linux which doesn't come with any updates.
From what I can tell on UA-cam, a lot of people confuse Red Hat Linux (which progressively merged with a different project to become Fedora) and Red Hat Enterprise Linux (which was derived from Red Hat Linux, and later from Fedora).
9:02 *ah yes i love holding my mouse like that*
As a Linux SysAdmin working mainly with RHEL, I'm blown away at how modern-looking and usable was Red Hat Linux in 2002. Coincidentally, the current version of RHEL is also 8 :)
I was really confused when he said it was red hat 8, then again RHEL has great hardware support.
That look (bluecurve) was actually hugely controversial. It was bi-desktop (gnome and KDE) and a lot of KDE folks were extremely upset. It targeted a subset of features in order to maintain total parity between desktops so that they both looked and behaved the same. This would normally not really matter in the scheme of things but Red Hat was about a year and a half removed from shipping 'GCC 2.96' which was a fork of the then current dev branch of GCC that didn't produce binary compatible output with other versions of GCC so you had to have special GCC 2.96 compiled binaries to use on your system. The FSF put out an angry letter about it. It was a weird time for RH.
Some engineers quit Red Hat over Bluecurve and accused them of 'crippling' KDE.
RedHat 8.0 was how I was introduced to Linux. Absolutely blew me away.
Same! First version of Linux I ever touched
@@Synergiance It was 6.2 that introduced me. I was 8. I loved playing Smiletris as a kid.
@Lil' Red Crewmate That's what I'm using.
Same here, it was taught to us in Linux class, my first Linux experience
You have got a lot of mileage out of that machine. Best investment I’ve ever seen on UA-cam.
*stonks*
If he has a $5 pc he should try see how well a 100 one is
@@insanitylol he had an opportunity to buy a working computer for $5. I say let him have his fun. $100 is just too easy to get a decent rig from the last decade.
@@insanitylol I feel like you’re missing the point of these videos.
I used RedHat a long time ago - back in the late 90s. It was probably my first introduction to Linux distributions.
Wow! All those old packages on a CD. I only started using Linux in 2010 so it's exciting seeing versions from before my time and what packages were still around back then ⌚
Bluecurve is one of my favorite themes of all time. It was the best at looking the same on both Gtk and Qt applications and the UI elements were just so clean and smooth.
true. it makes it all so perfect
This is pretty cool! As someone who joined the Linux community not too long ago, I've never experienced an older distro like this. Pretty cool to see the history here, not only with Red Hat, but also with older versions of KDE, GNOME, and OpenOffice. Pretty neat!
love your videos. i am 42 years old and i remember rh version 1. infact i am a rhce certified.
you should also do a gentoo video. i spent nights compiling gentoo. fun times.
oOOOOOOOOOooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooOoOOOOOooh!!
I watched this while wearing a red hat
absolute madlad
Try installing Damn Small Linux on the 98 PC
DSL is dead, try Tiny Core instead.
Kolibri OS it can boots up in 5 secs
Android-x86
@@justsomerandompersononthei2595 Too new
@@justsomerandompersononthei2595 Too new (3)
I still have all the discs for RH6,7,8,9 sitting in a box. I remember that installer, it was so easy and slick considering the time period. I always pushed up the desktops to 12, have 12 function keys after all. That feature alone was enough to push me into Linux. Windows XP was what pushed me from dual booting to Linux only. Even though I don't still use Red Hat, it was by far the best experience back then. Was even able to get my garbage soft modem working with it, and when I changed to a hardware modem it worked with *zero* effort. Ah the sweet dulcet sounds of a dial up modem calling the ISP, how I miss them now.
I used RH 8.0 in class in 2002 and I'm still amazed how modern it looks..even better than some existing Linux distros today. It was my first experience with Linux back then and the vector graphics and icon theme for sure blew my mind, having used only Windows 9x / 2000 back then.
Linux developers take note - this runs great on a Pentium III, I installed it at that time on the Linux lab machines we had - Celeron 700 with 256 MB RAM and 40 GB HDD.
The 5$ purchase brought us alot of interesting content on this channel.Who did even think that it wont?Vintage stuff is now pretty expensive like nintendo 64 costs 100 euro (roughly 105$).But this is awesome keep the good work michael
20 years have passed, and sound in Linux is still hard :)
Not really, I never had an issue with sound wdym.
@@tralphstreet I tried to plug in my headset with a mic. Sound is OK but no mic input. On Windows, it works
Provided you have the correct firmware installed, sound in Linux has gotten much easier
@@user-xr3rb6pn9m very common problem ;(
@@user-xr3rb6pn9m Works on my end with 3.5mm jack and usb headsets. Mic and audio.
Yay! I normally use arch and love this content! Thank you!!
You’re welcome!
After watching a bunch of Dankpods videos I have a new appreciation for the music you used right at the start of the video lol.
I started Linux on Red Hat 5, quite an expérience at 11 yo.
i use arch at 11 lol
@@rayi512x i installed gentoo at 12, noob.
@@nuc5042 you must feel p a i n
David... you are... amazing!
Thank you for the video. This brings my memory when I destroy all files in my windows XP pc because know nothing about what Linux is. Redhat is my first linux distro. And I am so grateful that we have faster mobility and so much community support nowadays. :)
Holy cow! My first linux was red hat 6.2. This is awesome. Brought back memories.
The first red hat with a gui installer:). I remember that because i was really impressed by the improved installer compared to red hat 6.1 which was a lot less user friendly and still a CLI based installer.
I thought this was RedHat Enterprise Linux 8
I was so confused about why it was released in 2002 lol
Yeah, took me a good 15 minutes too
I’m trying to find videos of old versions of Red Hat Linux.
Cool. Brings back memories. Redhat 3 or 4 was how I got started with Linux on my old windows 98 PC.
Got a similar machine I've been using to backup old disks. Surprised how well the latest 32bit debian still works on it in textmode (though linux's floppy disk driver REALLY sucks).
one year later and the linux floppy driver just got updated lol
I still have a set of those Cambridge Soundworks speakers from back in the day, exactly like those. Still the best PC speakers I've ever had.
Can you try installing those Longhorn builds sent to you, please?
$5 98 PC USED RED HAT
IT'S SUPER EFFECTIVE
this was the first linux i ever used. i got an old 98 box setup again and im planning on installing this soon too
This brings back many memories. I first used RedHat Linux 7.0 from a book my dad got at work. I was around 12 at the time. I just remember trying to get it to work on my 200Mhz Pentium MMX 64MB Dell Optiplex GN+. Was an absolute PITA to get to work. The good news is that I had sound though. The Cmedia 8738 literally has support from everything. Also it got me into Fedora Core linux and then I used fedora up past 18. I used to run HALO CE servers on a Fedora box. It took a long time but now I'm back on linux again as the gaming support has dramatically improved. It was the last issue I had with linux. So now I run Mint 21.2 and am quite happy. Quite a change from those early distros.
Lol this is the same exact first computer that I have from my childhood, speakers and everything. Maybe this will make a cool project for me to get it back up and running just for fun.
I remember that when I was young I tried to install these red hat discs on my windows pc via explorer and it crashed everything lol.
ah nostalgia. i first started with redhat 7.3 and got hooked onto linux
In my opinion RedHat logo is the best Linux distro logo ever, it's makes me feels like I'm running an OS for hackers.
i love how OpenOffice itself hit me with nostalgia since it's LibreOffice now, let alone it being 1.0 with Sun Microsystems
5 dollars for such vintage hardware is a real steal. Very fortunate. =)
really miss the good old days of red hat and miss the blue curve theme :(
wow this was a trip back in time. I forgot how modern looking RedHat 8 was. Tbh I did not see it at the time...but now..damn..it was such much better than windows
Had multiple desktops back in late 1990s with Sun's Solaris and HP's HPUX Unix OSs. Something that Linux pick up.
I like their way of making the installation more accessible. Instead of trying to simplify the process, they just stuck a manual to the left side.
Enjoyable explanation of Linux. Great pitch to this explaining.
I love these old Linux Distros installs because Linux discs came with WAY more stuff than Windows discs would, so it's like having a Windows install disc and some two or three software packages discs all bundled into one
The first distro I ever had installed was Red Hat 4.2 back in 1998 and I'm only finding out now IBM had acquired RedHat in 2019.
🌈 *THE MORE YOU KNOW* 🌈
I really like the icon theme. It's really cute
I actually bought a boxed copy of Redhat 8.0 at Staples about 20 years ago. Dialup internet didn't make for speedy downloads then so I was happy to pay the price. I wish I still had it.
My first Linux distro I used full time was Ubuntu. Don't recall the version number. I was thrilled when I saw multiple desktops. I used to have music playing on 1 desktop while doing everything on another.
One thing I hate about Windows multiple desktops is that EVERYTHING is in the taskbar, regardless the desktop it's on. I like having my music program open, but not taking up valuable space on the taskbar. Windows implementation is wrong in my opinion.
Hey MichaelMJD, you should do a video on Windows 1.0 celebration! It’s gonna be 35 years old tomorrow on November 20th!
How much Stuff can you make from one 5$ Purchase?
MJD: Yes.
Red Hat 5 was my first Linux distro!
Congrats on 100K subs, miachel!
"Today it's a subsidiary of IBM, which is pretty awesome"
That didn't age well
My first exposure to Linux was in 2005 in computer science class with this same Red Hat distro. At the time I just got from Windows98 to XP (no service packs), and found out that most of my DOS games wouldn't run any more or won't have sound. When I found out that same list of games Red Hat included, I was sold and made my home computer dual boot. And after I found out about DosEmu I made it my only OS (games in DosEmu had sound, but no music, but it was better). Didn't install Windows ever since in real hardware, except a small hiatus when re-entering uni this year. (Lucky I found out about virt-manager, so no need to use bare metal hardware any more.)
ps: Red Hat 8 was a bit old in 2005, so was wondering why it was chosen by our old lecturer. But watching that video, I think it is quite useable, even by modern standards!. Bet that if you update GCC and the Linux Kernel, it will make a sweet distro for modern hardware.
Watched this on Fedora 35 Workstation. Yay for the Red Hat crowd!
Really cool video. I love it.
Thank you!
Good shit, thanks
I just visited their website. Time to watch this hahah
The more Linux content the better!
Red Hat 8.0 was very light and clean. I loved it.
Awesome video, Michael!
RHEL FTW! Our MSSQL server runs on RHEL with an uptime on 350+ days. It's Windows brother reboots weekly.
Pretty sure I had that a similar PC with an earlier version of RH I picked up cheap at a computer fair back in around 98. Still got that boxset kicking about somewhere, came with RH logo stickers I plastered everywhere. After finally configuring the soundcard you'd be greeted with Linus Torvalds telling you the correct pronunciation of Linux
Love the Linux vid!! Keep up the good work!!
technically Fedora project is continuation of this PC version of Red Hat, I still have Red Hat 6.0 and 7.1 on CDs with those small booklets that my dad bought back 22 and 21 years ago :D I was exposed to Linux as 7-9 yo, I use fedora long term to this day :D
Keep your good work! Well I love it
Install FUNKos....Walpaper on top of **insert OS here**
Lol
16:30 Not the web browser. A 503 indicates that a backend service failed to successfully resolve (Gateway Error). You just hit it at a bad time.
I love the Linux content!!! Great video
I bet Linux purists are spitting out their herbal tea at the fact Michael pronounced GNOME as 'nome'. 😂
I'm just mildly annoyed he didn't even try installing neofetch...
I am a designer for Fedora, I pronounce it "nome"
@Dr ROLFCOPTER! I really don't understand what that has to do with anything, gnome is an actual word outside of linux where the 'g' is silent
@Dr ROLFCOPTER! Do you pronounce it Guh-if?
I am a Linux geek, nowhere near a 'purist' and I say "nome". More of a KDE fan though.
Red hat 8 also runs fine on a 486dx4 100mhz with ISA and PCI sis motherboard.. all hardware detected and worked just fine except for the 56k modem i had at the time but i was a dos and windows boy lol i got the os out of a pc magazine cd they used to have in each month magazine i had n tried at least 5 different distros but never got beyond install and a day of looking around at everything then went back to windows.. i found the installs to be mostly easy but not always
I think that each time you make a video on this PC that you should list the Hardware Specs _(300MHz celeron and 512MB RAM, and video RAM chipset specs as per MSWindows Device Manager/DXDiag)_ in the description. This video, for example has an advantage over the others which do not show the BIOS screen immediately. A modern Kwort Linux would be a good OS to try. It can be run from a CDROM oftentimes. Kudos for putting 512MB RAM in the machine. That is a minimum (although 1GB is good if "possible") because despite what people claim it was not at all an unrealistic amount of RAM for the era in which these computers were used. Audio recording used it plenty as did Desktop Publishing (let alone video editing).
Install Windows Chicago on $5 Windows 98 PC
Yes
@@juniorelectrician2005 do you like Vista? It’s my favorite OS of all time.
@@CardboardGuy I feel like vista is misunderstood.
@Soumodeep Guha Though true, I get it that some bugs and bloatware were present in the final release of vista upon initial release, but, other then that and higher minimum hardware computer specs is what crippled it's positive reputation and reaching huge main stream adoption from the average Joe who were day one adopters and had lower hardware spec's at the time.
I'm pretty sure there's a Win95 Chicago theme for Linux as well
You can still the free version of Red Hat today, it's called CentOS and uses Red Hat Enterprise Linux as its upstream.
Microsoft did have multiple desktops in the Longhorn betas as one of the side bar widgets in some of the 4000 builds.
Wow that looks really good I can see why Microsoft would be worried about Linux back in the day.
This was my second Linux version after Red Hat 6. Back then my internet was so slow that I needed the CDs to upgrade.
After that I got Ubuntu disks which made my printer function well which wasn't possible in Red Hat at the time.
Still running a computer with Ubuntu to this day but most of my machines are on Debian now.
I do plan to put antiX on my Dell Dimension L1000R. I am running antiX on my Dell Inspiron B130 which basically has an Intel Pentium M (actually a Celeron M) that I upgraded the hard disk drive to 150 GB IDE and I installed 1 GB of DDR2 laptop RAM.
Rh9 was a great distro that really brought the penguin into mainstream
Wow, Linux uses to ask soooo many questions before it was installed and ready to use
If you want to try Red Hat Enterpise Linux, you have 2 free options
1: Get a RHEL developer subscription
2: Use CentOS
14:15 no, you cannot. Gnome is just garbage. KDE FTW.
Yeah especially the latest Gnome uses more than double the RAM of the latest KDE but doesn't even have half the functionality.
@@thatoneuser5066 Plasma is an awesome DE, more distros should switch to it being the default instead of GNOME.
@championchap no.
Using Linux through the command line better /s
This somehow looks much more usable than modern linux installations and DEs.
Idk how.
I don't agree, the ones now are simply more efficient
I was able to upgrade this version to the latest version of Fedora linux without a single reinstall, unbelievable but possible
Gotta love the Bluecurve theme!
collecting RHL software in box is now a thing. Pre 5.x are quite rare and expensive when found.
1:45 which is pretty awesome: oh yeah about that
8:46 who's face is that on the kernel development icon
I acquired Red Hat Enterprise Linux from a class I took at a prior job, though I forget the exact version number off the top of my head. It multi-booted rather well with various versions of Windows, provided you left free partition space to set up some ext2 partitions. Overall it was a decent distro, though there are more user-friendly options out there for those just wanting to get started (DSL, Puppy, etc.)
Red hat just with the name made me thought it was something your old pc wouldn’t like
@@insanitylol My PC at the time was running an 800 MHz Pentium 3 and RHEL ran great on it. Oftentimes server-based OSes and those with similar sounding names will run just fine on regular desktops.
Much easier than it was getting it working in an emulator emulating a non-ACPI/non-PnP system. :D
nice vid as always!
I love the 5$ 98 PC
Cool. I always wanted to check redhat after all the chitchat about it. What about taking a look to Manjaro first version? It would be interesting.
Hey Michael, Windows is 35 years old today. 🎈 🎊
Red Hat Linux 8.0 Was Released on September 30 2002. Also Red Hat Enterprise Linux Workstation 2020 Costs 299$.
Red Hat was my first taste of Linux in 2000. This is a much more polished installer than what I had. It is so polished that I prefer it to the current Fedora installer. How is this possible?
This was really cool i mean its been along time sense we have done something with linux :) anyways when are you gonna do videos on those windows beta software CD's.? no pressure lol.?
I have a version of Linux that comes supplied on 6 CD's and a boot floppy. it has no install GUI.
Oh my. I bet most of the discs are additional software that could be installed after installation, back when Internet connections weren't fast enough.
Aaaah. Yeah - I remember using I believe RH 7.2 and then maybe 8.0 a bit.
You're the first person I know who spells out GUI like that!