Expectibg f2p to bring joan of arc and other buff/debuff commanders, is not fair, its actually really bad for f2p players to use those commanders, cause they lack vip17, premium gear and maxed kvk research so what they get out of those commanders is a huge hospital bil, which is gonna make it harder for them to get favourable trades, kills and overall satisfaction and fun experience out of their gameplay P2w players on the other hand, have more rss, speed ups, better kvk tech vip 17 and premium gear, which make it easier for them to use those commanders and not get destroyed! Plus with the 6,7 marches in kvk, p2w players have more opportunity to use those buff/debuff commanders.
Hey can someone recomend some good combos and commander to focus on based on my commander list? Im sooo confused despise the vids. By level: Sun zu 47 Athel 40 Scipio 37 Belasarius 37 Joan 33 Lohar 31 Boudicca 30 YSG 27 Richard 27 Mulan 26 Cao cao 25 El Cid 15 Herman 10
Tip that I like early on is 1, when attacking city’s always send in one March of t1 troops so that they take the majority of the damage and can be easily trained back again. And secondly is targeting the farm bots. The ones that are easy to spot will have France as there civilation and there name will look more like a code then a name. G2H7U8 and things like that. They will have only t2 troops and a lot of rss. Easir to take. During training events or MGE you can upgrade t2 troops into t3 troops for the same rewards as training completely new t3 troops.
actually u have less point for upgrading troop. Also u want to training more troops in the early game rather than upgrading caz u need more troops to fill your march with full of one type, especially inf and cav
My advice for f2p work on 1 legendary commander on a time until expertise (only few exceptions like leo 5511) . Otherwise you will waste the precious universal sculptures. for example, max guan and pair with leo or Charles/ysg. Saladin is so amazing as 5551
Still such a relevant video. Being a spender that took a break for a while during SoC for life stuff, I was missing a lot of commanders when I came back. I am now entering KVK and trying to come up with 6th and 7th marches. I was able to get a 5115 Tomyris (5125 to be exact, and now 5335 from daily special chests). I also have Artemisia at 5211. Think I will use 5511 Art with Tomy for my 6th or 7th march and then split up Guan/Alex to do 5511 Leo with Guan and put Alex with YSG or someone else. Love these videos that are still relevant months later.
I have a better suggestion, choose whether u want to be infantry, cavs, or arch, then max the legendary commanders of cavs, if u want cavs, legendary infa if u want infantry, then legendary arch if u choose arch. Im a cavs f2p player and i already maxed 3 cavs legend
Interested in 5111 legendary commander videos. Mainly for early kingdom and up to kvk1 since at that moment there is chances 5111 could be better than expertised epics. Looking forward to your take on this
If you looking for early game pairings as a starter pairing. Don’t worry, mans got you. If you’re going Cavalry, I recommend Cao Cao for RLY early game, if you’re a bit more in the game definitely get Genghis and Saladin (if the whales allow it). And after that, again same with the Genghis/Saladin think but this time it’s Attila Takeda If your going Inf, definitely put every epic sculp into Sun Tzu 100%. You can easily get Alexander from wheel and Richard/Charles. Again, if you’re whales allow it maybe Constantine. If your going Archer I’m sorry but you’re gonna struggle before the first KVK. In the first KVK, 100% get YSG from Wheel. In the Meanwhile, you can get El Cid with an epic like Hermann or Keira. I definitely missed some, because I’m stupid. Tell me your combos for early game
Yes I am Germany right now but Cavs seem weak for f2p except for the fact that they help you run away. But in murder ball does not make much of a difference. using infantry marches though mostly because they are more tanky. Seems F2P should be infantry since Richard, Alex, Martel, Sun tzu are tankier than cavs or archers. Able to last a bit longer and Guan Leo eventually become available and require lower amount of sculptures. What would be the 5 best infantry, cav or archer combos for f2p?
incredible video chisgule, just incredible, ur content is never disappointing, im a f2p, and my kingdom is in kvk 1, which commander should i work on??any suggestion??
What do you think of a constantine 5511 and a leo also 5511 would be very tanky and leo would benefit of that constantine reduces the attack of the enemy which if im right makes leo deal 50% more damage (in his active skill)
Hi chisgule , please release a video about what a f2p should do in the late game ( 55M+ power ) , I mean what commanders should we invest in and what is our role in kvk ? Should we train t4 or t5 knowing that T5 are expensive to be maintained .
@Massimo Hack And that's where the problem is . I have maxed commanders with good gear at this point and I have a hard time calculating the amount of universal speedups I should split between training troops for rallies and healing troops for open field . Also , Splitting the training speedups between T5s (which will be killed) and T4s for open field
1st yay. Hey chis, cheers from Lebanon. Sorry if i can't be on your streams, busy with work, college and fam. I hope your doing fine. Have a great day bro. Cia
@@cavsgang1276 Not for f2p It's not much effective but still better than 5511 epics maybe I am wrong I have not played this game for enough time but a 5111 legendary like Cm and CC is great 👀
2 months in my new kd only 3 expertise so far And one of them is lohar I mostly have all my epics 5000 and legendary 2,300 except aethe , so if I have 5511 epic or 5111 legendary what will be better 👀
Chisgule question for you: I’m just getting back into ROK. I haven’t played in 2 years. I have a 25M power account, what do I do with it? I’ve never played kvk or any of the new stuff
What is really important to know for free to play is when a legendary is stronger than a similar epic. like for canyon. My account is 272 days old and i haven't invested in gold key legendaries so they are levelling up slowly. I still use epics in canyon though and am still working on my YSG and Alex. so when do you replace an epic with an unmaxed legendary gold key commander? E.g. when would I replace expertised scipio or Bjorn with unmaxed Julius, Martel or Ragnar? Which one should I favour. When or should I replace kusinoki with El Cid when paired with YSG? Which should I prefer in back lane with Aethel? Mulan or Mehmed and at what level? Does the decision stay the same if I have Richard with Joan as well. Also it is hard to get gold stars as f2p. So when is it better to have a level 50 primary over a level 60 primary? e.g. In canyon, right now my Joan is primary with my 5511 Richard because she is level 60. But in field fighting I need to hide Joan behind my level 50 Richard otherwise they get focussed too fast. A video on these types of things would be helpful. Thanks for all of your great advice.
@@user-wy1yb7zj1j for card kings event you need many gems... due to there are mostly only level1 gems fields and just a few level2 for top allies, it is very very hard to max out YSG and Alex... I working expected half an year on my YSG (starting from mid of June 2021 till now he is only 5524)
Stick to zenobia IMO unless you’re looking to diversify your kingdom’s garrison capabilities with a cav garrison. Jad YSS would be the combo in that case.
Why pick William over xy ?cant I make xy 5511 and make him secondary for my Saladin and use my sculptures for jadwiga for my city etc so I can use xy also there as my secondary ?🤷🏼♂️ good idea or not ?
Please make vid for 5111 legendaries at least 4 and I'm having a hard time gathering the heads for them, because they come from MGE. Not a super spender so it gets tough trying to stay in the top 20.
I am a f2p player Can I use a 5111 CM as a secondary with max sun Tzu ? Can I use 5111 CC as a secondary to max baibars or belisarus ? For kvk 1 I am having terrible luck with my gold keys kvk is still 1 after a month and I hope to get CC and CM 5111 before that time 😅😅 Btw chisgule thanks for the video just hoping for these videos Please make a video for equipment in early game need help with that 🙃🙃
@@hcccvk3596 thanks but not enough sculptures to get rich to 5511 but i have him 5111 and saving gold heads for ysg so when he comes i hope to get him 5531 or something like that
I have such a bad habit of jumping around with my commanders really sucks have no exp commanders and alot of 5111 or 5511 commanders pretty sure that's why I still get wrecked it's Lilith fault to many commanders lmao
Good video ;) not sure how an unmaxed takilla will perform, maybe it deserves consideration, also maybe do some ysg combos because 90% of f2ps will still have it maxed I think
i ask this to legend rhony and dragothien and answer different.. i have guan/alex maxed and now i whant others march now is the best trajan ysg or saladin trajan william, also i have marthel 5545 and the useless khan maxed, leo 5511 richard 5411. and 210 golden heads what you tink i need. im f2p whit 72m and migrate to 1941 kingdom and they enter in 3 month to HA they whant to grow first finally you said harald is not good in long terms for now .. is so dificult to decide
Chisgule I got moctezuma for some reason. Can you somehow show if he is actually worth it for forts ? Is he better than other pairs ? I am an f2p. So I don't have minamoto to pair up with caocao.
It will be decent but not good. XY needs to be primary bc of the low rage requirement. Also because the debuff on the active skill doesnt really benefit to this march if he is secondary. It could be just as a support march … but in that case Aeth will bring you more. There is not so much benefit to hide a 5510 (or 5511) XY. Even Baibars does more aoe damage overall. Crucial thing about a non maxed XY is rage requirement, that’s why he is so strong and powerful
What do you think of this list? Are there combos that I missed? discord.gg/chisgule
Hey chisgule would you making a list for tavern commanders? Because i dont have all of this except saladin
Expectibg f2p to bring joan of arc and other buff/debuff commanders, is not fair, its actually really bad for f2p players to use those commanders, cause they lack vip17, premium gear and maxed kvk research so what they get out of those commanders is a huge hospital bil, which is gonna make it harder for them to get favourable trades, kills and overall satisfaction and fun experience out of their gameplay
P2w players on the other hand, have more rss, speed ups, better kvk tech vip 17 and premium gear, which make it easier for them to use those commanders and not get destroyed! Plus with the 6,7 marches in kvk, p2w players have more opportunity to use those buff/debuff commanders.
Yeah why not 5 1 1 1 commander list
Hi sir. im a newbie to the game
can i join your alliance?
Hey can someone recomend some good combos and commander to focus on based on my commander list? Im sooo confused despise the vids.
By level:
Sun zu 47
Athel 40
Scipio 37
Belasarius 37
Joan 33
Lohar 31
Boudicca 30
YSG 27
Richard 27
Mulan 26
Cao cao 25
El Cid 15
Herman 10
Great video as always 😁
Yours too
@@Snar Thank you! 😁
@@benthatguy5221 thanks!
Your content is fire🔥
@@lostwoods910 Thank you! 😁
Tip that I like early on is 1, when attacking city’s always send in one March of t1 troops so that they take the majority of the damage and can be easily trained back again. And secondly is targeting the farm bots. The ones that are easy to spot will have France as there civilation and there name will look more like a code then a name. G2H7U8 and things like that. They will have only t2 troops and a lot of rss. Easir to take. During training events or MGE you can upgrade t2 troops into t3 troops for the same rewards as training completely new t3 troops.
actually u have less point for upgrading troop. Also u want to training more troops in the early game rather than upgrading caz u need more troops to fill your march with full of one type, especially inf and cav
are you like 1m power?
@@semperfidelis3235 was probably like 6 mil back then. Now I’m 24 mil and 48 mil
I can’t wait to get value from this love you chisgule you’re the RoK GOAT. I will forever love you and all your hard work.
Thanks for the tips Chisgule You transformed my game expeirence tottaly
My advice for f2p work on 1 legendary commander on a time until expertise (only few exceptions like leo 5511) . Otherwise you will waste the precious universal sculptures. for example, max guan and pair with leo or Charles/ysg. Saladin is so amazing as 5551
im gonna need this video time to download!!! just unlocked Ram, Guan, and YSS thank you for the best leadership chisss
Still such a relevant video. Being a spender that took a break for a while during SoC for life stuff, I was missing a lot of commanders when I came back. I am now entering KVK and trying to come up with 6th and 7th marches. I was able to get a 5115 Tomyris (5125 to be exact, and now 5335 from daily special chests). I also have Artemisia at 5211. Think I will use 5511 Art with Tomy for my 6th or 7th march and then split up Guan/Alex to do 5511 Leo with Guan and put Alex with YSG or someone else. Love these videos that are still relevant months later.
I have a better suggestion, choose whether u want to be infantry, cavs, or arch, then max the legendary commanders of cavs, if u want cavs, legendary infa if u want infantry, then legendary arch if u choose arch. Im a cavs f2p player and i already maxed 3 cavs legend
How long you've been playing?
Interested in 5111 legendary commander videos. Mainly for early kingdom and up to kvk1 since at that moment there is chances 5111 could be better than expertised epics. Looking forward to your take on this
@@cavsgang1276 what about 5111 caocao compared to an expertised belisarius
Wish I watched this last year when I started playing LOL
Same lol
kind of hard when its uploaded in 2021 june..
Before watching comment once again: Alex/Ysg, Sala William (both 5551), Trajan Aeth
I think I should focus On Saladin and william upto 5/5/5/1 and YSG and Alex upto expertise as A F2P player
If you looking for early game pairings as a starter pairing. Don’t worry, mans got you.
If you’re going Cavalry, I recommend Cao Cao for RLY early game, if you’re a bit more in the game definitely get Genghis and Saladin (if the whales allow it). And after that, again same with the Genghis/Saladin think but this time it’s Attila Takeda
If your going Inf, definitely put every epic sculp into Sun Tzu 100%. You can easily get Alexander from wheel and Richard/Charles. Again, if you’re whales allow it maybe Constantine.
If your going Archer I’m sorry but you’re gonna struggle before the first KVK. In the first KVK, 100% get YSG from Wheel. In the Meanwhile, you can get El Cid with an epic like Hermann or Keira.
I definitely missed some, because I’m stupid. Tell me your combos for early game
I waited so much for this
A video about dedicated players to a certain troop type pleeeease, (5 marches of the same type)
Yes I am Germany right now but Cavs seem weak for f2p except for the fact that they help you run away. But in murder ball does not make much of a difference. using infantry marches though mostly because they are more tanky. Seems F2P should be infantry since Richard, Alex, Martel, Sun tzu are tankier than cavs or archers. Able to last a bit longer and Guan Leo eventually become available and require lower amount of sculptures. What would be the 5 best infantry, cav or archer combos for f2p?
I just saw a rok ad and It said "I think resources are the main reason people go to war
i usualy use Aethlfead first and richard second, way better in my opinion for talent synergies
Nice one Chis, thanks for the vid
Thanks for those pairings.
Can you do f2p city defense commander pair list for late game
You should start showing the equipment so we can have an idea on what we should focus on too
In testing a 5513 xy 5551 sala got better results then sala William (5551 both)
I'm F2P and have been playing over 400 days, I don't have the majority of these commanders yet.
Get in a whale alliance 🤷♂️
@@miguelito2361 what does that do
@@someoneandnoone8655 free gems & VIP 🙂
This is really helpful Chis!
Just unlocked Tomy and got lucky enough to end up 5115 on her. cant wait to compete for Artemesias next.
Hello all, thanks for posting this video @Chisgule! Is there a list based on this video?
About to maxx alex and consta 5511 ,guan maxed ,harald maxed 😋....thanks chis
incredible video chisgule, just incredible, ur content is never disappointing, im a f2p, and my kingdom is in kvk 1, which commander should i work on??any suggestion??
Try to invest everything on ysg until expertise and for Richard you just need 5111
@@jacktan1646 5111 Richard sucks at barb chaining… he needs a 5511
@@user-wy1yb7zj1j Richard is not a good investment
Yh. I would rather invest on YSG and sun tzu or kusunoki for nuking
Save sculptures till YSG arrives, use all on YSG and work on him till maxed
RC 5551 + Alex 5511 for kvk2 , is that okay . im trying to get Alex maxed
What do you think of a constantine 5511 and a leo also 5511 would be very tanky and leo would benefit of that constantine reduces the attack of the enemy which if im right makes leo deal 50% more damage (in his active skill)
Richard 5/5/5/1-aethel or constantin 5/5/1/1-aethel ?
richard. is better because he debuffs with slow and aethel deals extra damage.
Saladin/Takeda? both 5-5-5-1 ?
Hey chisgule what kingdom are you in?? And also just subscribed cuz I need tips for rok
1075
@@bosshero7490 thanks
Hi chisgule , please release a video about what a f2p should do in the late game ( 55M+ power ) , I mean what commanders should we invest in and what is our role in kvk ? Should we train t4 or t5 knowing that T5 are expensive to be maintained .
@Massimo Hack And that's where the problem is . I have maxed commanders with good gear at this point and I have a hard time calculating the amount of universal speedups I should split between training troops for rallies and healing troops for open field . Also , Splitting the training speedups between T5s (which will be killed) and T4s for open field
@Massimo Hack In that way , Your troop count will decrease massively if you dont train much . A balance should be made between healing and training
@Massimo Hack Yea , It should be fine
1st yay.
Hey chis, cheers from Lebanon.
Sorry if i can't be on your streams, busy with work, college and fam.
I hope your doing fine.
Have a great day bro. Cia
Can we can an update to this with the 3 “Mythic Tier” commanders? 😬
Nice video & tweaks.
Yes please a 5111 commander guide 😁
@@cavsgang1276
Not for f2p
It's not much effective but still better than 5511 epics maybe I am wrong I have not played this game for enough time but a 5111 legendary like Cm and CC is great 👀
2 months in my new kd only 3 expertise so far And one of them is lohar I mostly have all my epics 5000 and legendary 2,300 except aethe , so if I have 5511 epic or 5111 legendary what will be better 👀
@@cavsgang1276
🤔🤔 , I am not experienced enough to know about it , my second kd, but thanks for it
Question. Isn't XY better as Primary over Saladin since he only require 890 rage to pop active skill as 5511 and is a Skill commander?
What do you think about windswept gear on trajan/aethel to solve the march speed issue or is that simply too weak of gear?
Chisgule question for you: I’m just getting back into ROK. I haven’t played in 2 years. I have a 25M power account, what do I do with it? I’ve never played kvk or any of the new stuff
Might try get passport and go to off season 1 kingdom
@@amirulhakim4149 He cant migrate back to kvk1 only kvk2 and up
What is really important to know for free to play is when a legendary is stronger than a similar epic. like for canyon. My account is 272 days old and i haven't invested in gold key legendaries so they are levelling up slowly. I still use epics in canyon though and am still working on my YSG and Alex. so when do you replace an epic with an unmaxed legendary gold key commander? E.g. when would I replace expertised scipio or Bjorn with unmaxed Julius, Martel or Ragnar? Which one should I favour. When or should I replace kusinoki with El Cid when paired with YSG? Which should I prefer in back lane with Aethel? Mulan or Mehmed and at what level? Does the decision stay the same if I have Richard with Joan as well. Also it is hard to get gold stars as f2p. So when is it better to have a level 50 primary over a level 60 primary? e.g. In canyon, right now my Joan is primary with my 5511 Richard because she is level 60. But in field fighting I need to hide Joan behind my level 50 Richard otherwise they get focussed too fast. A video on these types of things would be helpful. Thanks for all of your great advice.
Also when should I replace expertised Baibars with unmaxed Mehmed or Cao Cao?
Nice vid need these
Hey chisgule, can i do an Artemisia 5511/ YSG max with Artemisia primary?
Plz make a legendary comander invesment order
Very useful 👍
Hey chisgule nice video
fragance in the air bundle vs kings coronation?
Omg thank youu!!
Looking for advice. Whether to max Trajan or Ramses first. I'm a low spender with Guan/Alex/ysg maxxed.
I have gear for both already available.
If you want damage or support your choice
You said some mge commanders..Do you know how difficult it is for f2p to get those
When you get to the point of expertise your Alex and ysg those commanders will appear in card king
no he does not ..
@@user-wy1yb7zj1j for card kings event you need many gems... due to there are mostly only level1 gems fields and just a few level2 for top allies, it is very very hard to max out YSG and Alex... I working expected half an year on my YSG (starting from mid of June 2021 till now he is only 5524)
If must choose one of them, which one is better? Artemisia or Nebuchadnezzar?
Chis what are your thoughts on Jadwiga? Is she worth maxing or just stick to Zenobia?
Stick to zenobia IMO unless you’re looking to diversify your kingdom’s garrison capabilities with a cav garrison. Jad YSS would be the combo in that case.
Didn't song vs jst yesterday show that saladin william is better than xy william?
Why pick William over xy ?cant I make xy 5511 and make him secondary for my Saladin and use my sculptures for jadwiga for my city etc so I can use xy also there as my secondary ?🤷🏼♂️ good idea or not ?
Hello, can u pls share one video regarding how to set skill 5155
What to pair with charles though?
Am I the only guy who hears 400 legendary sculptures and just not even imagine that.
Get vip 10
Awesome!
What happened to Leo? Wasn’t he called the worst legendary in the game a few months ago
Are you mistaking him with lubu maybe?
@@os_domin No it was before he even was in the game
Please make vid for 5111 legendaries at least 4 and I'm having a hard time gathering the heads for them, because they come from MGE. Not a super spender so it gets tough trying to stay in the top 20.
Lol 😜
No alex primary ysg secondary? It should be number 1 for f2p
I am a f2p player
Can I use a 5111 CM as a secondary with max sun Tzu ?
Can I use 5111 CC as a secondary to max baibars or belisarus ?
For kvk 1
I am having terrible luck with my gold keys kvk is still 1 after a month and I hope to get CC and CM 5111 before that time 😅😅
Btw chisgule thanks for the video just hoping for these videos
Please make a video for equipment in early game need help with that 🙃🙃
Richard 5511 with sun tzu is the charm in kvk1, for cav you could use pelagius primary and baibars secondary
@@hcccvk3596 thanks but not enough sculptures to get rich to 5511 but i have him 5111 and saving gold heads for ysg so when he comes i hope to get him 5531 or something like that
im castle 23 now chis and 73k away from vip 14, my military tech is max. what should you prefer?
Haralad man , what about him?
with Alex, Charles , Leo
Alex/ysg? I m ftp near vip 12 and working on ysg to max him and an alex 5511 (wanna max him too)
Worth it?
Yes this is a very good f2p combo. You could even expertise both of them if you wanted to
What do i pair with Julius Ceasar (Hes my only legendary”
that leg gear is smexy
I have such a bad habit of jumping around with my commanders really sucks have no exp commanders and alot of 5111 or 5511 commanders pretty sure that's why I still get wrecked it's Lilith fault to many commanders lmao
Any tips for getting Skill resets?
Bro cyrus ramesses rally? ?
Good video ;) not sure how an unmaxed takilla will perform, maybe it deserves consideration, also maybe do some ysg combos because 90% of f2ps will still have it maxed I think
didnt understand from which angle its a f2p pairing :)
is there CF 9 full power 300k..or can I have more power? I am CF 9..may power 300k.good or not?
From where you bringing all of the gold heads man 😂
His wallet 🤣
Ark and wheel. Get 10k points and win ark you get 10 heads.
i ask this to legend rhony and dragothien and answer different.. i have guan/alex maxed and now i whant others march now is the best trajan ysg or saladin trajan william, also i have marthel 5545 and the useless khan maxed, leo 5511 richard 5411. and 210 golden heads what you tink i need. im f2p whit 72m and migrate to 1941 kingdom and they enter in 3 month to HA they whant to grow first finally you said harald is not good in long terms for now .. is so dificult to decide
I'm in the same situation 😅
What do you think of XY/takeda as a march for open field?
It’s tanky but when people see XY they will target him
Chisgule I got moctezuma for some reason. Can you somehow show if he is actually worth it for forts ? Is he better than other pairs ? I am an f2p. So I don't have minamoto to pair up with caocao.
don`t waste your sculps for that...
How do I get 200 commander sculptures from a commander that comes from Mge as a f2p player
Should I invest in Charles Martel
Nope
May I know what does it means by 5551 or 5511?
Is charles mortell good?
My XY at 5515 from first attempt 😌
Is mm and Ed good?
How do you get like 75% of ur legendary commander
1243 is recruiting contract king HuntedLegend
What do you think about Saladin 5551 with a XY 5511?
It will be decent but not good. XY needs to be primary bc of the low rage requirement. Also because the debuff on the active skill doesnt really benefit to this march if he is secondary. It could be just as a support march … but in that case Aeth will bring you more. There is not so much benefit to hide a 5510 (or 5511) XY. Even Baibars does more aoe damage overall. Crucial thing about a non maxed XY is rage requirement, that’s why he is so strong and powerful
Yeahh a 5111 budget cavalry list please
What about yi seong gye
Question so I’ve got yss/Theo maxed and got gold gear not special talented but I’m f2p so is it wise for me to garrison in HA or leave it to whales ??
Would depend on your equipment
@Massimo Hack yeah man after being in HA I think I’ll leave that to the big players no way I’d have a chance to help
can you do leveling commanders guide?
I think Dragothien did a video about commander leveling priority
Is rok good?
Awesome
What does 5155 mean?
I like the video
If you will max something 1000000% Recommend YSG
what is your alliance i need to join
how do you unlock the commanders? just by playing the game?
Yes. The Mightiest Governor event, the Wheel of Fortune Event and the gold keys can all give you the commanders
Real money
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