We are looking to homestead ASAP. We originally thought we would want goats but after researching I agree with you- at least for us, sheep would be the best
I agree!! And they r gentle not aggressive or dangerous ' except maybe a ram. Lambs r so cute!! And they don't have ugly butts like goats!! Lol. I'm all for hair sheep , Dutch. Peace & bless ur heart.
I know this was posted a while ago, and maybe that’s why, but i really appreciate that out of the group I think you are the only one that linked the specific videos rather then just the channel.
to quote an old saying 'o my lord they are just beautiful, and clever mummy having three that is awesome. Thank you for sharing such a beautiful moment with the new family and all your good advice has taught me a lot of stuff l didnt know but am very happy you talked about thank you so much.
Such good advice thank you. I miss my sheep! I had both sheep and cows and it takes about five acres per cow if they are on dry land irrigated about three acres. I wish I had know about hair sheep then. I also raised guard llamas and ran one with my sheep as I had trouble with bear and coyotes.
Well, I have watch all 4 of the videos on the subject with a discerning eye. After careful evaluation, I have come to the conclusion that you are all mistaken. The ideal farm animal is opossums. 1st, they are free. (who ever bought a possum? They breed like crazy, sometimes having 12-13 babies. They are virtually predator proof. Nothing will eat even a dead possum other than another possum. (predators is something none of you touched on) They will eat anything. (kind of like a 4 legged tilapia) I haven't tested the homing instinct to see if they will return home, but if you free ranged them at night I'm sure they will feed themselves. (neighbors chickens, eggs etc) costing you nothing to raise. They are quiet. No one will even know you have them. No nesting boxes needed. They have their own. They wont run away from you, they'll just play dead so you can pick em up and cuddle them. They have lots of uses. Meat and the byproduct grease. Possum tail soup. Milk is a possibility. They must have like 10 tits. Maybe more? Who could resist a full body stole wrapped around you neck with that smiley face looking atcha. A beautiful fur collar, although a bit thin, on a winter coat. Imagine a pair of leggings or a fur possum skin hat. All those (50) teeth would make a nice necklace. Could even use them for piercing your little girls ears. Their pouch make outstanding designer handbags or a possibles pouch, or a makeup bag. Kids could keep their marbles in them. Wouldn't it be cute to have one hanging by it's tail from your porch light on Halloween? I could go on, but you surely see that I'm right and you are wrong.
*lastniceguy1* I tried raising them... but the females have improved their defenses. Instwas of playing dead, the females simply crawled inside their pouches and disappeared.
lastniceguy1 OMG! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 This has GOT to be the single best comment on UA-cam! Hey! UA-cam! Maybe you could make that happen! Give this person a gold star! ⭐️
We agree...Its important to distinguish that we are talking about HAIR sheep. Low maintenance is the KEY. they dont need help with lambing. they are great and once you taste the meat its game over! and you said Katahdin right!
Emmanuel's Promise Farm Here just found you have heard about you but not sure Ive seen you yet... But YES Hair Sheep is the way to go!!!!!!!!!!! We have Katahdin Sheep and Kiko/Boar Goats.
Dutch!!!! This video could NOT have come at a better time! Lol, finally picked up my 5 Dorper/Katahdin cross sheep the day before yesterday (Tuesday). They were my Valentines gifts! Hahaha. I’m loving all the info I can find. 🤗 And Yeh, so far I’m finding they aren’t cuddle animals like dogs or goats or whatever lol. Mine act like they’re terrified of me. But I guess it’s a new place and they are SHEEP after all lol. Super skidish. Picking up my goats in a few days. Got some Nubians to breed and milk. The homestead is a growin!! Thanks again, Jenn Stone Seven Sprouts Homestead LLC Nicholls, Ga
I need sheep to eat my grass. We live in the city and we have St. Augustine grass. I have to mow it 2x a week. The only drawback would be that they would eat my garden too.
We have a little over an acre, and once we get a perimeter fence put up, and a shelter built (we're in wisconsin) I'd love to get sheep. I was thinking just 2-3 could be sustained off one acre. But you're saying 6-10?? Wow. We're a few years out, but we'll start small and see where it goes. Not planning on raising them for meat at this point, more for lawn care and enrichment for my kids to grow up caring for animals.
Outstanding job of explaining the hair sheep's benefits. Where can you get these sheep? I find the Dorper much more attractive than the Katahdin which are a crossbreed of St. Croix sheep and the Dorper. A cost analysis - purchase price, feed and shelter cost, and sale price estimates would be good.
Whilst I had to agree with Al that pigs are my favorite livestock in terms of their nature and their versatility, I must admit that I've never handled haired sheep. I'm not keen on woolly sheep, but I'll have to keep haired sheep in mind... Nice collaboration by the way and you provided some excellent reasons for your choice! :) 🐖🐏 🐑
Thanks for sharing about this breed of sheep. They sure are pretty and lambs are truly cute! I'm still stuck on Nigerian Drawfs to try first. I really appreciate you and your channel. Blessings.
The question I have for you is I am looking to purchase a small farm that currently has an old barn that needs to be redone on 14 acres of property. The property is currently all open and perimeter has big trees on it for a windbreak. The property mostly all clear and open and is currently be used to grow hay. Plus it has a man made lake on it as well. The lake size is about 250ft by 135 ft. What I’m looking for is how many sheep do you feel can go on this property comfortably, and how many sections can I divide the property up for proper rotational pasture grazing? As well as how would you work this property with the lake? Do you feel the lake is a benefit for the animals as well? Any input you have would be greatly appreciate it thank you so much.
We have Katahdin sheep. One of the reasons that I have them is that they are easy to handle. I have severe arthritis and needed a homestead animal that would not be a strain on me physically. Handling larger animals, like cattle takes a lot more physical effort. Sheep are smaller physically and their flocking tendency means that most of the handling is just a matter of opening a gate and shaking a bucket. Our Katahdins are calm, easy to keep in a fence, quieter and smell better than goats, and cute so if you have near neighbors they usually have less problems than if you wanted ... for example pigs. The meat is delicious and you can even milk sheep if you want. Some of the best cheeses in the world are made from sheep milk.
I subscribed to you today. I am subscribed to the other channels on this collab and that's why I am hear. I like your honesty in, "it's about the money". LOL ~Smile!
When you said you would leave the mama and triplets alone I couldn't help but think that was a wide idea with the guardian dog standing right there. :)
ky colonel man I hardly evwry need to trim ours either.... I'm I love on old farm land and have great hay that grows out there, 10 sheep on 1 acre and sustained it self. Thanks for watching.
Here, England, dorper sheep don't do very well as the climate is way to wet. Their hooves are really bad. Lots of problems with hoof rot! Different breeds do better in different climates. Wool-less sheep are cool though as you don't need crutching, shearing, I.e. you save a lot of time and much less problems with fly strike (very common in humid uk climate again)
2 acres per cow. 5 acres per horse. Right now I have goat but I am looking into getting sheep If you would could you get a hold of me about purchasing some sheep from you
🍎 New sub. Enjoyed hearing your thoughts on sheep. This collab was a great idea. I love seeing the variety and different approaches to homesteading. 🍎👩🏻🌾👍🏻
Is that the Red River behind you? I been looking for an Okie to buy some good sheep from that does good here in my State. I'm in the SE Corner and we get a little damp sometimes.
Ah HA! You are in Oklahoma. Tell me I don't know my state! Lived here 48 years, so I should. I'm up here on the South Canadian where it empties into Lake Eufaula. Howdy neighbor!
Stick to the list don't go gettin "squirrel " on us. New sub here, you had me when you tuned out those two cityidiots on pretend living love your vids keep it up.
Great video! I love sheep 🐑 for many reasons.. I actually don’t like Goat 🐐 because they stink & the milk 🥛 stinks Plus the meat is hard to eat & though. So yes I prefer sheep 🐑.
I go to a "Halal" market butcher in Calgary, Alberta for my goat cuts. ANY meat is tough and hard to eat if it's not cooked right, butchered correctly, and aged or taken when it's supposed to.
I know I am REALLY late to this video but we live in NW Arkansas so not far from Oklahoma. I am interested in getting into sheep. Where is a good place to get the dorper sheep? Can I start with a couple of them and build my herd up?
Great video! Newbie question: How do you make money off of them? Just selling live ones to people? Or do you process them and sell the meat? How does that work? Thank you!
Hey bud I have a question I've got a acre of land fence it no 2 paddics I don't live there I'm about 15 miles from there is it nessary to be there full time around them they have a guard donkey plenty of water and good shelters. I can only go there once a week
I like checking on mine everyday, I personally wouldn't recommend telling someone its ok not to check on their animals everyday. Things can happen like one of them could get hung up in a fence something.
I raise Katadhin and Katadhin/Dorper cross sheep too. My favorite here on the farm so far. We won't do goats though. Pigs, rabbits, bees, chickens and sheep, but nooooooooooooooooo goats or cows
As much as cattle are almost a "calling" for some people, if you expect to make any return other than your own use, you have a problem. If cattle miss or have a Vet issue, and need attention, you could lose a year or even TWO years of possible production, all the while dealing with supplements and Vet. bills. With sheep, missing a cycle is not a great loss, and since you often have two/three or even more lambs, and good producer will catch up within months.
We are looking to homestead ASAP. We originally thought we would want goats but after researching I agree with you- at least for us, sheep would be the best
I agree!! And they r gentle not aggressive or dangerous ' except maybe a ram. Lambs r so cute!! And they don't have ugly butts like goats!! Lol. I'm all for hair sheep , Dutch. Peace & bless ur heart.
I know this was posted a while ago, and maybe that’s why, but i really appreciate that out of the group I think you are the only one that linked the specific videos rather then just the channel.
to quote an old saying 'o my lord they are just beautiful, and clever mummy having three that is awesome. Thank you for sharing such a beautiful moment with the new family and all your good advice has taught me a lot of stuff l didnt know but am very happy you talked about thank you so much.
Such good advice thank you. I miss my sheep! I had both sheep and cows and it takes about five acres per cow if they are on dry land irrigated about three acres. I wish I had know about hair sheep then. I also raised guard llamas and ran one with my sheep as I had trouble with bear and coyotes.
Well, I have watch all 4 of the videos on the subject with a discerning eye. After careful evaluation, I have come to the conclusion that you are all mistaken. The ideal farm animal is opossums.
1st, they are free. (who ever bought a possum?
They breed like crazy, sometimes having 12-13 babies.
They are virtually predator proof. Nothing will eat even a dead possum other than another possum. (predators is something none of you touched on)
They will eat anything. (kind of like a 4 legged tilapia)
I haven't tested the homing instinct to see if they will return home, but if you free ranged them at night I'm sure they will feed themselves. (neighbors chickens, eggs etc) costing you nothing to raise.
They are quiet. No one will even know you have them.
No nesting boxes needed. They have their own.
They wont run away from you, they'll just play dead so you can pick em up and cuddle them.
They have lots of uses.
Meat and the byproduct grease. Possum tail soup.
Milk is a possibility. They must have like 10 tits. Maybe more?
Who could resist a full body stole wrapped around you neck with that smiley face looking atcha. A beautiful fur collar, although a bit thin, on a winter coat.
Imagine a pair of leggings or a fur possum skin hat.
All those (50) teeth would make a nice necklace. Could even use them for piercing your little girls ears.
Their pouch make outstanding designer handbags or a possibles pouch, or a makeup bag. Kids could keep their marbles in them.
Wouldn't it be cute to have one hanging by it's tail from your porch light on Halloween?
I could go on, but you surely see that I'm right and you are wrong.
*lastniceguy1* I tried raising them... but the females have improved their defenses. Instwas of playing dead, the females simply crawled inside their pouches and disappeared.
ROFL!
HILARIOUS!!!!!! Thank you for the laugh! I really needed this today!
lastniceguy1 OMG! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 This has GOT to be the single best comment on UA-cam! Hey! UA-cam! Maybe you could make that happen! Give this person a gold star! ⭐️
And you can feed them the same food as your cats!!!
im sold . im on 14 acres these will look great on the farm
شكراً لك ياستاد مشهد جميل خالي من ازعاج الموسيقى تريحني مثل هذه الفيديوهات الهادئه وترغبني للمتابعه جزيل الشكرلك تحياتي
We agree...Its important to distinguish that we are talking about HAIR sheep. Low maintenance is the KEY. they dont need help with lambing. they are great and once you taste the meat its game over!
and you said Katahdin right!
that what we have and they ROCK!
HAIR SHEEP (fist bump) the BEST!
OFF GRID with DOUG & STACY we love them too. I enjoy watching you guys with yours..
OFF GRID with DOUG & STACY can you go tell arms family homestead that sheep are the best lol
you Go Off Grid we at Emmanuel's Promise Farm have Katahdin as well
Emmanuel's Promise Farm Here just found you have heard about you but not sure Ive seen you yet...
But YES Hair Sheep is the way to go!!!!!!!!!!! We have Katahdin Sheep and Kiko/Boar Goats.
Dutch!!!! This video could NOT have come at a better time! Lol, finally picked up my 5 Dorper/Katahdin cross sheep the day before yesterday (Tuesday). They were my Valentines gifts! Hahaha. I’m loving all the info I can find. 🤗 And Yeh, so far I’m finding they aren’t cuddle animals like dogs or goats or whatever lol. Mine act like they’re terrified of me. But I guess it’s a new place and they are SHEEP after all lol. Super skidish. Picking up my goats in a few days. Got some Nubians to breed and milk. The homestead is a growin!!
Thanks again,
Jenn Stone
Seven Sprouts Homestead LLC
Nicholls, Ga
XxJennRNxX heck yeah, how are they doing?
I need sheep to eat my grass. We live in the city and we have St. Augustine grass. I have to mow it 2x a week. The only drawback would be that they would eat my garden too.
Fences can sometimes be your friend
YES!!! And they will eat your roses, flowers, just about everything except your grass haha I only have two
We have a little over an acre, and once we get a perimeter fence put up, and a shelter built (we're in wisconsin) I'd love to get sheep. I was thinking just 2-3 could be sustained off one acre. But you're saying 6-10?? Wow. We're a few years out, but we'll start small and see where it goes. Not planning on raising them for meat at this point, more for lawn care and enrichment for my kids to grow up caring for animals.
Outstanding job of explaining the hair sheep's benefits. Where can you get these sheep? I find the Dorper much more attractive than the Katahdin which are a crossbreed of St. Croix sheep and the Dorper.
A cost analysis - purchase price, feed and shelter cost, and sale price estimates would be good.
Around these parts it's normally 1 cow per acre ...we shall see as we start fencing our place
Stoney Ridge Farmer do you plan on getting some cattle?
Does this even count since they aren’t your sheep? And I mean if Homesteady and Lumnah Acres were closer to me I’d sure love some milk and bacon!
Arms Family Homestead haha yes it counts lol you would like lamb chops better then kid chops lol
Keeping It Dutch
Yikes. Poor Houston... :'(
+Keeping It Dutch hey wait a minute. I was told that I would get a sheep or am I just getting the wool pulled over.y eyes :-) gotta love Daniel
Austin does not milk or maintain his wife's cow. He has other videos praising goats and pigs. I like milk but dairy cows are the highest maintenance .
Doug from Doug & Stacy had a video this week on lambing triplets and the risks. Glad you are keeping an eye on her. The babies are cuties!
inderwink I'm about to go watch it, it's pretty rare for dorpers to have triplets.
Thanks Dutch!
Whilst I had to agree with Al that pigs are my favorite livestock in terms of their nature and their versatility, I must admit that I've never handled haired sheep. I'm not keen on woolly sheep, but I'll have to keep haired sheep in mind... Nice collaboration by the way and you provided some excellent reasons for your choice! :) 🐖🐏 🐑
Just found this video because I’m about to get sheep and I’m in Oklahoma too! Just subbed
Thanks a lot. Im in northeast Oklahoma
Me too....
This video is the most informational out of all 4 by far!!! But I’ll have to go with goats. Wish the other videos would say the acre to animal ratio
We saw Al and his pig and still need to see the others. We have always wanted sheep so thank you for more reasons to get them.
Thanks for sharing about this breed of sheep. They sure are pretty and lambs are truly cute! I'm still stuck on Nigerian Drawfs to try first. I really appreciate you and your channel. Blessings.
Great video. I hope to add sheep soon, we have about 15 acres that I'm tired of bushogging.
Our neighbor used to raise hair sheep. They are delicious. The meat is excellent.
I just love baby goats and sheep!
I like the lambs they are cute.
we did goats before but going to hair sheep in the spring!
GOATS!!!!!
hahaha!
Love this stuff. Y'all are great.
We like our goats. But we want to raise sheep again. We raised bummer lambs a few years ago. We have an 8 acre farm where we live.
Great collaboration! We have goats but
Your making me reconsider it lol. I would say my fav is chickens.
Homesteady has the best video, but Arms Family Homestead has the best farm animal, the GOAT.
New sub (Thanks to Daniel. He has mentioned you in quite a few of his videos but this collab got me here finally!) Good job hiding the dog lol :-D
Sierra Dates thanks a lot, I hope you enjoy what you watch. Daniel is a great guy, but he really needs some sheep lol
Lol! Was told (not mentioning any names) to tell you goats are the best for homesteading 😉 Just subscribed. Love the sheep!
Learned and enjoyed! Thanks to you!
thank you for sharing...mine would be cows,grew up with them...homesteady was a laugh this morning
The question I have for you is I am looking to purchase a small farm that currently has an old barn that needs to be redone on 14 acres of property. The property is currently all open and perimeter has big trees on it for a windbreak. The property mostly all clear and open and is currently be used to grow hay. Plus it has a man made lake on it as well. The lake size is about 250ft by 135 ft. What I’m looking for is how many sheep do you feel can go on this property comfortably, and how many sections can I divide the property up for proper rotational pasture grazing? As well as how would you work this property with the lake? Do you feel the lake is a benefit for the animals as well?
Any input you have would be greatly appreciate it thank you so much.
Thanks great video!
Mmm, lamb roast and pan gravy, loin chops and mint sauce... the goodness never ends.
Devil Dog! I’m right behind you with the homesteading.
We have Katahdin sheep. One of the reasons that I have them is that they are easy to handle. I have severe arthritis and needed a homestead animal that would not be a strain on me physically. Handling larger animals, like cattle takes a lot more physical effort. Sheep are smaller physically and their flocking tendency means that most of the handling is just a matter of opening a gate and shaking a bucket. Our Katahdins are calm, easy to keep in a fence, quieter and smell better than goats, and cute so if you have near neighbors they usually have less problems than if you wanted ... for example pigs. The meat is delicious and you can even milk sheep if you want. Some of the best cheeses in the world are made from sheep milk.
Raw milk is good for arthritis
I subscribed to you today. I am subscribed to the other channels on this collab and that's why I am hear. I like your honesty in, "it's about the money". LOL ~Smile!
Ciecie Newson show me the MONEY lol...Thanks a lot for subbing and watching I really do appreciate it.
When you said you would leave the mama and triplets alone I couldn't help but think that was a wide idea with the guardian dog standing right there. :)
we have dorpers and about 3 sheep per acre. have to do feet trimming about once per year. these sheep are friendly.
ky colonel man I hardly evwry need to trim ours either.... I'm I love on old farm land and have great hay that grows out there, 10 sheep on 1 acre and sustained it self. Thanks for watching.
Here, England, dorper sheep don't do very well as the climate is way to wet. Their hooves are really bad. Lots of problems with hoof rot! Different breeds do better in different climates. Wool-less sheep are cool though as you don't need crutching, shearing, I.e. you save a lot of time and much less problems with fly strike (very common in humid uk climate again)
I just bought a 5 acre property. About 3 acres is pasture. This might work for me.
2 acres per cow. 5 acres per horse. Right now I have goat but I am looking into getting sheep If you would could you get a hold of me about purchasing some sheep from you
Warning lots of Questions... Do the Dorpers grow hair long enough to spin? and how much does a baby lamb cost on average? even a bottle feeder??
BACON BACON BACON! Sheep can't compete with BACON....lol.....Al said to tell you HI!
Awesome video, thanks for sharing! How is the milk quality and quantity off of Dorper sheep?
Thanks for sharing, good information
I have 80 sheep 🐑 I like you sheep 🐑
🍎 New sub. Enjoyed hearing your thoughts on sheep. This collab was a great idea. I love seeing the variety and different approaches to homesteading. 🍎👩🏻🌾👍🏻
Thinking about Barbado Black Belly or Saint Croix sheep... What's your opinion on those hair sheep breeds Dutch???
Daniel said goats are the best. Lol. I love all my animals. My one ewe is what i have as far as sheep goes.
Passion helps...motivation and contentment!😉
Flocking cool!!
Is that the Red River behind you? I been looking for an Okie to buy some good sheep from that does good here in my State. I'm in the SE Corner and we get a little damp sometimes.
Ah HA! You are in Oklahoma. Tell me I don't know my state! Lived here 48 years, so I should. I'm up here on the South Canadian where it empties into Lake Eufaula. Howdy neighbor!
Love some dorpers and katahdin/dorper crosses.
Competition is always helpful :) !
I have wasps. Cats, dogs,rabbit and pony. Wasps mud and paper.
Thanks Dutch, you still have dorpers?
The sheep look wonderful!
Pople BackyardFarm thank you, wish they was mine lol
Stick to the list don't go gettin "squirrel " on us. New sub here, you had me when you tuned out those two cityidiots on pretend living love your vids keep it up.
SilvercreekQRC hahaha thanks a lot. Glad you are sticking around I appreciate it..
Very interesting and informative. Thanks!
raising these dorper sheep is really pretty easy. we started two years ago. they multiple like rabbits
ky colonel heck yes, I love it
I agree with Daniel that goats are best, but you did perk my interest. What is the average cost of hair sheep?
How much hay you feed them a day in winter? Like 1 small square for 3-4 sheep?
Thanks for the video what is your stance on organic farming and climate change?
How hard is it to sell sheep products like meat? Or find places that take them to buy as butcher meat etc? How do people work this part out?
Very good thank you 😀where can I get the same cap you have on please 😎
Good collaboration dutch, GO GOATS!!!
Great video Dutch!
LOve your hat, man Semper Fi!!
goats r the beats
Hair sheep are fine if it doesn't get too cold in the winter. $10/sheep for wool. That's a couple hundred dollars an hour.......
What you think about st croix sheep?
Great job!
The only hair sheep I knew of are St. Croix. They are also very parasite resistant.
We never had Triples, nice!
The print on your shirt. Where did you get that (I didn't read all the comments)?
you guys need a couple of livestock guard dogs. they are excellent.
Great video! I love sheep 🐑 for many reasons.. I actually don’t like Goat 🐐 because they stink & the milk 🥛 stinks
Plus the meat is hard to eat & though.
So yes I prefer sheep 🐑.
I go to a "Halal" market butcher in Calgary, Alberta for my goat cuts. ANY meat is tough and hard to eat if it's not cooked right, butchered correctly, and aged or taken when it's supposed to.
request from Houston and Daniel tell everyone that goats are the best.
Dutch you got me thinking
I know I am REALLY late to this video but we live in NW Arkansas so not far from Oklahoma. I am interested in getting into sheep. Where is a good place to get the dorper sheep? Can I start with a couple of them and build my herd up?
you got it take it away..
great info!
Never had sheep meat ... but had goat's mean plenty of times. Nor sheep milk either.
So I'm not sure which taste better.
I’m just learning that there are hair sheep!
Great video! Newbie question: How do you make money off of them? Just selling live ones to people? Or do you process them and sell the meat? How does that work? Thank you!
Eat the meat and fill your freezer, and make money by not buying meat from the store.
I've got four head so far. Trying to get a herd started so any help you can give would be greatly appreciated
Do you go to a sale barn exclusively for buying and selling or is there other avenues?
Hey bud I have a question I've got a acre of land fence it no 2 paddics I don't live there I'm about 15 miles from there is it nessary to be there full time around them they have a guard donkey plenty of water and good shelters. I can only go there once a week
I like checking on mine everyday, I personally wouldn't recommend telling someone its ok not to check on their animals everyday. Things can happen like one of them could get hung up in a fence something.
Thank u for your awnestly thoughts. It's property that I rent out time to time
Semper Fi brother Dutch!
Hey, Dutch~I think those are pretend sheep ! hahaha ! They are beautiful though !
Do you dock your hair sheep tails? I have been getting mixed reviews. We just started with two twin bottle babies and need to decide soon.
I raise Katadhin and Katadhin/Dorper cross sheep too. My favorite here on the farm so far. We won't do goats though. Pigs, rabbits, bees, chickens and sheep, but nooooooooooooooooo goats or cows
Where/how do you sell them? I am totally naive to the whole process and very curious.
As much as cattle are almost a "calling" for some people, if you expect to make any return other than your own use, you have a problem. If cattle miss or have a Vet issue, and need attention, you could lose a year or even TWO years of possible production, all the while dealing with supplements and Vet. bills. With sheep, missing a cycle is not a great loss, and since you often have two/three or even more lambs, and good producer will catch up within months.