After sampling multiple wedges last year, I thought all hope of improving my short game was lost; I think the only wedges I hadn’t tried come July were vokey, ping glide, and these. Needed my 100 yard shot so I gambled on the CBX in 50 loft. Well, in my bag today are the CBX in 50, 54, and 58. Total game changer for an amateur hack like me. Don’t overlook them if your wedge game is an issue
I've had the 54 CBX and 58 CBX wedges for over a year and my short game is generally excellent. It is the strength of my game (currently a 6.5 index). In particular I think they are better for full shots than the Volkey and Mack Daddy wedges I played previously. But they are great around the green also.
I use the 50, 54 and 58 degree CBX wedge. I like the big sole that helps the club glide across the turf and makes them easy to hit. I recently replaced the steel shafts with steel fiber shafts to make them lighter since my club fitter said they were too heavy for me. My regular irons are Cobra F8 one length with steel fiber shafts.
This is why I love this channel. When I bought my set of M4 irons (4-GW) my thoughts for SW and Lob wedge immediately gravitated to Vokey, Callaway, TM or Ping. I’d heard of Cleveland wedges and the CBX in particular, but I never seriously considered them. So, how is my wedge game with my “players wedges”? In a word… Crap. Yup, I’m tragic around the green. Why? Because for some ridiculous reason I couldn't swallow my pride and play with wedges made for players of my caliber. May be time to revisit that decision. Great video Andy! Keep telling it like it is.
Sorry for the late response. I just bought the Wilson D9 irons. I took the SW and PW set, and ordered the GW in same specs seperate. They do not have a lobwedge. I am now looking in a 58/60 wedge for the bunkers as I truggle with thoses. I saw a Cleveland Smart Sole used and hit a few shots with it and it went great. Searching for those I got here :), It's even bigger than this one :D
I just purchased new clubs this year. After being fit and testing the AP1, JPX 900 Hot metal and Tour edge CBX, I purchased the JPX 900 4-LW. Tried different wedges but liked and hit the Mizuno set wedges the best.
Hi average golfer great video, last year i got fitted for new clubs and so wanted the vokey wedges, i got fitted for CBX irons and my golf pro guided and fitted me to the CBX wedges and I love them, so easy to hit and they hit the green nicely, feel really confident standing over the ball and now i know the distances i really enjoy and look forward to hitting them during a game, in 10 months with my game improvement irons and wedges my game has improved and i have dropped 9 strokes of my handicap. Happy golfing Cheers Aussie Dave
I bought a seven iron length lob wedge 60 degree/ 4 degree bounce and it was very easy to use around the green. Great for tight lies in Oz. Cost $60 US approximately with a graphite shaft. I was looking for a single length set of irons and found them at Milford golf in Victoria Oz. Great value and performance. Most wouldn't consider them as they are not a name brand.
No. I got the Wilson D9 irons to the 48degree PW. but bought the Cleveland cavity CBX2 wedges 52 56 60. But I tried them all and got fitted. Amazing wedges. I have mastered the chip over the bunker onto the green. I can approach from 100 metres with unbelievable confidence. The 56 is superb for bunkers.
I have both the CBX and the smart sole S and I also think a lot more golfers would be better off with them, but they won't use them for exactly the reasons you mentioned here.
Greetings Andy my club pro fitted me for clubs a year ago and recomended and fitted me for the cbx wedges and I love them confidence inspiring and easier t heat than my old bladed wedge I now enjoy and look forward to playing short shot into the green happy golfing aussie dave
Good point..but for me it’s not about ego . I test clubs before buying them in the shop and most cases also on course with a demo club. I have an open mind but when it doesn’t hurt my game I play what suits my eye. If it suits my eye it gives me confidence...and golf is a mental game and in my opinion for a great deal based around confidence. For example tested a sure out but my MD PM grind does the job just as well and with more versatility around the green 😇
I agree with you. I think its a very good choice. I use a Callaway Sureout 56 degree myself. Lots of help with that one !!! My friends use ones that are harder to get out of the sand with and end up taking several shots to get out. I like the CBX as well. I am all for game improvement clubs. Cheers Andy.
I can assure you that these wedges are the business! I play off a 4 handicap and to be honest I was embarrassed to put these in the bag. I took a chance and put a 50° and °56 in my bag and it's the best club decision I have made in years. I feel like I can hit 2 inch behind the ball and still not dig into the ground and duff it. Let me tell you this gives you a lot of confidence. I previously had the tour trusty wedges which are brilliant but the leading edges are so sharp despite 10° bounce and if you hit just a hair behind the ball your coming up short. Even though these wedges have a wide sole they're still versatile enough to open up and not bounce up and skull the ball. Do yourself a favour put your ego to one side and buy some of these. I've had these now for 3 month playing in soft conditions and now firm conditions and they won't be coming out of the bag for anything. Oh and at address they look no different than your standard bladed wedge.
I'm a 12 handicapper and have used these wedges in 54 & 58 degrees since last June with my Ping G400 irons and have to say I find the wedges excellent, I would certainly recommend them.
I have the Srixon Z565 irons and played the Cleveland RTX wedges but changed to the CBX wedges after watching the review . The pitching wedge is 44 degrees so I got the 48,52 and 56 wedges which perform very well and nobody that has looked at them has anything bad to say about them.
I currently play 2 different sets. My PXG 0311XF 5-PW iron set, I use various Vokey wedges I previously had. My Callaway Apex CF16 set is 3-AW with MacDaddy Forged 54 and 58. I had a wedge fitting and was fit for Titleist 50, 54, and 58 S400 shafts with F grinds low bounce,because I’m a sweeper and not a digger. That is why I still use my Old Vokeys and my new MDs are to the specs to match my set.
6 handicap and Bought ap1 718 5 to pw and matching 48 and 53. Then a cbx 58 for bunkers and short game.,made short game scoring more consistent and distance control much better. Probably the best wedge ive owned. The v sole is brilliant.
I play three wedges from Ping line of Glide 2.0. Really like them. They help you a lot of the way. My wedges is my absolute favorite clubs to hit. Calm swing and lovely flight. You get to enjoy every move of the ball at a close distance. Wedges gives me so much motivation to play the game. I like them much better than the driver. Did play the SM5 Sm6 and SM7 for a while, but Glide 2.0 is much easier to hit, but gives me a nice feel and experience.
After I up graded my clubs to Srixon Z 785, sold my old set,TM R7's . unfortunately I sold my sand and 60' wedge with it and I was lost with out them, they were my strong part of my game, gave ne confidence. I looked at all the fang-dangled new wedges and not happy, with the fee nor the price. so I change my mind set, in that I though,I can use any wedge and practice enough till it is comfortable, confident and predictable , just as my old ones became. so now I used a $8 used wedge, after overcoming the feel and difference in weight , I'm now getting the results I used to get with the old ones.
I use RTX 3, 50 deg wedge and a SM4, 50 deg wedge in my old set both go 100 yards on full shots but the vokey has to be hit out of center RTX will still go 100 yards out of heel or toe. Most forgiving wedges on full shots I ever used were Muzino JPX 52 and 56 degrees just did not like the feel on short chips felt bouncy off face but still checked up good.
Hey mate, just stumbled across you video, and have to applaud your honesty and have to agree with you. I've recently gone back to my PING EYE 2+ SW and LW, after struggling for a couple of years with Vokey wedges. I only bought the Vokeys because everyone else was using them, and I anted to look cool, and the spin milled marketing spiel got me. BUT, the cavity back, and easy to hit Eye 2's make the game so much fun. Well said.
Too late Andy after your last vid and the fact that I went too z585 I need new wedges to match up specs and I ordered a 50° gap wedge in the cbx. It will be here tomorrow all spec out to me. If it does what I think it will and match up to my irons I will get a sand wedge as well. I will stick to a bladed lob wedge for now as I rarely use it on full swings.
I currently have md3 wedges but if I had money would definitely consider the CBX wedges. Love the concept - my handicap is circa 16 and I would definitely take the extra help
I bought the CBX2 wedges in 54 degree and in 58 degree. The best wedges I've ever hit. They fly high and straight and the yardages were spot on for me. A perfect compliment to my PXG irons.
These CBX’s are the first set of specialty wedges I’ve ever bought. I’m a 15 HCP and went straight to these after a bit of research. No ego here! I’ll do whatever I can to get help with my short game. Still early days, so we’ll see if they make a difference. Just filling the gap with a 50 deg has certainly helped
@@nischroopram9948 just bought them off the shelf. Have since changed all my wedges to something less chunky as my game improved and also had to adjust my gapping. So now rocking a Cleveland RTX Zipcore 48* Gap Wedge, cobra 54* Sand wedge, and a TaylorMade Bigfoot 58* with the large sole and 15 deg bounce
Spot on Andy👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 My irons are Apex CF16’s & I noticed that I hit the Apex PW much better than my Vokey SW & LW but I couldn’t get the Apex SW as it’s discontinued. However........... my coach noticed I had a big gap in lofts so I ordered the Apex AW/GW as they had that & I hit it just as well as my wedge & much better than my Vokey.
I play a 56* Cleveland reg. 588. A tried and proven s/w. Just got a new one in fact as the old one was 20 years old. My pw and gap matches my iron set. Keeping it simple.
I started watching this and just knew you were going to reveal the CBX wedges.I was lucky enough to get two of these wedges one round old for half price,and i have to say what a bargain,i love them.I play AP3s and am even thinking of trying to have a hit with CBX irons. If you do game them,make sure you try them with the graphite wedge shaft option,great feel
It's an excellent point Andy. I have used nothing but Titleist wedges since the early 90's, starting with DCI's all the way through to the milled Vokey's I currently game. Why? I suppose I always like the ability to try different lofts and bounce and could pick and choose, but I'll admit you got me thinking over here! :) BTW, been a while since I visited your channel, still great content I see and congrats on making it up to 16K subs! Well done.
Andy, being 60 years old, my swing speed down to 85 with the big stick, and not getting any younger, I’ve come to the realization that I should play with what works. Not what looks good in the bag. I went to senior shaft pretty much throughout, and just got a set of M-CGB’s for higher launch and all that. I love playing forged and the feel that comes with striking it pure. But when it only happens once or twice a round, time to move on. I looked at the CBX’s, but I prefer (for now) the PM grind wedges. I guess they fall between a players wedge and a CBX type. Now, if I could only stop paying big bucks on putters...and premium balls!
I have CBX2 in my bag now basically because after years thinking I may one day be a great wedge player it’s not going to happen. Theses are so easy to play make me feel more confident over the ball. Try then.
I recently swapped my 3 Mack Daddy wedges for 2 CBX wedges and it’s the best thing I’ve done. My gapping is so much better and these are equally as good for full shots as they are round the greens. They’re very playable, easy to open the face right up, and spin well. Love them.
Great video iv ordered the cbx2 in 58,54 for my gapping in my bag tried the top of the range couldn't hit them but the cleveland proformance wish for me was brilliant just want I needed
Brilliant video Andy... as always ;) As all clubs in our bag they are chosen by the level ur traveling to in ur game.... not so much where exactly u are when u buy them. Some clubs keep at ur hcp ... while others in learning process get u 10-15 shots with each club to improve and lower ur hcp easier. Even if clubs are functioning in most ways and easier to hit at "regular" type of shots of course ;) BUT buying stuff should rarely be about where u are NOW in the game unless u plan to stay there. Luv ya ... ciao from Iceland :D
I changed a year ago and I still sometimes look at them and think they are too big. That’s probably because we are so accustomed to looking at small heads! They definitely have improved my game though!
I have tried them and was very happy with them and the feel, my mindset was that they are a scoring club so why not use help to get scores lower in the wedges too particularly as I scramble a lot. Have since been custom fit with ping g410 irons and have got the wedge and utility and sand wedge all 2 degrees flat and with the same shafts as the rest of my irons. I won’t lie to you, I have had to play a lot and practice a lot to get used to them and it’s not perfect yet but they are winning me over along with G410 driver, wood and rescue. I recently played a game at a tight but great links course in Tenby with surprising results for me .
😆 spot on Andy ! I did just that. Got fit for JPX 919 HM's and then bought SM18 wedges. Why,Why,Why ! 😂 just ordered 50,54,and 58 degree cbx2s. Wish me luck !🤞
When I bought my P790’s, I had a gap and was offered an approach wedge (at 50 degrees). I dismissed it straight off but the numbers suggested I either needed to include it or pay for a full set of wedges to sort the gap issue. I purchased it and it’s probably the best club in my bag! It’s got to be unconscious bias and a bit of pier pressure as to why we think we need the forged wedge set up
Well done again Andrew!...I’ve used/tried many wedges over the years but recently purchased the 919HM’s 4-lob set and I’m really enjoying them...I considered going like most with the 4-P and going with a different set of wedges but so far I can’t complain 😁
@@TheAverageGolfer Not sure if they are just offered in the states, but man is it a chunky thing. Alas like u said most won't game these type of clubs cause of the look when in actuality they need to for the help they can offer.
This is a really good point and one that’s come not long after I’ve just been fitted for 3 shiny new SM7s. Having said that wedge play is the strongest part of my game and makes up for a weaker long game. The SM7s are very different to my Ping Gs but they’re superb and just glide through the shot. The completely different look and size hasn’t affected me at all... so far!
I have definitely decided to do everything I can this year to make my golf as simple and as easy as I can. Confession time; I have to admit that I have Never bought a Wedge! I currently have two casts off's and then wonder why my short game is so shite. So I have a Wedge fitting (and a Putter fitting) booked for next month, I was hoping to try the Ping Glide wedges, but I will see if I can try out the CBX as well whilst I'm there. PS I'm Loving my PXG Driver and Hybrids!!!!!
I have the PW of my Z785 but opted for 50 Vokey/54 PM Grind/58 PM Grind. I did so because I generally only hit partial shots with my higher lofted wedges and they tend to be much better around the greens than set wedges. I hit pitches and chips much more often than I hit full shots with wedges, so I chose my setup based around those needs. I honestly could probably completely do without the 50. I rarely hit it.
The lofts are so strong on the newer sets of irons that a PW is usually 43 to 45 degrees. In my set it is 44, so I carry 48, 52 and 56 degree wedges that don’t match my other irons. My wedges are all face forward style from the ease of use perspective.
I was the same and used wedges that look nice and felt nice but since I tested Callaway Sureout I have improved my wedge play so much and still use them now in a 60 and 64
I get pw and aw in the set I use . I always get high toe wedges (pm grind) make it as easy and most help I can get. 54 and 58 don’t need anything below those lofts! Also get as much bounce as you can it’s your friend!!!!!
Great video as always Andy...cheers. Cant argue at all with the comments you made. I read before that there is a reason why Club Manufacturers bring out new clubs so often...because people buy them...its that simple. And 'the average golfer' myself included somehow thinks it would give us an edge. I have been struggling with my wedges...i may need to take a closer look at something that will be more suited to my abilities...
Hi Andy great video and again food for thought ...I have a set of these wedges for the exact reason you have put forward here I play with cavity irons and these have great spin, and so easy to hit ...definitely helps, it's definitely in part ego and snobbery these are great price for a great product providing the golfer is comfortable with the approach and look, which btw they look fine
Interesting stuff Andy . . . I play off 11 and use Vokey’s. Love them but I don’t game bladed irons? Why vokey’s then - ego? - I hope not, maybe aspirations to be better . . . . that said I do get good outcomes from my 52/58 degree wedges - pw same as my irons (Mizuno MP SC)
I've never been able to hit a wedge, but I was fitted for the CBX 54/58 - wound up getting a 50 also, and I am learning how to play wedges now. I may change at some point but I can get out of the sand now.
I have you beat 🤣 I rock Adamas A4 Forged irons. I have 3 sets of them as back ups why....because they feel amazing my distance is awesome with them as yes I have compared them to newer stuff and numbers are the same, I just upgraded Shafts. Callaway hooked me up with Mac Daddy 4 wedges as they feel amazing and love the distances. I’m a 2.6 handicap still loving 10+ years irons. Some of the old technology is still amazing compared to the newer stuff.
As a 16 handicapper, I put 50,54 & 58 CBX wedges in my bag last year replacing Ping Glides - they've made wedge play easier and more enjoyable - it's a no-brainer for game improvement iron players
My friend, when i bought my set of Ben Hogan Ptx, I also bought their Equalizer wedges. They feel great and their performance is outstanding. Hogan Golf Company produced an outstanding product. You need to test them!
@@TheAverageGolfer They have a great testing process where they will send you 2 clubs of your choice to test out. Info in available via their web site bud.
I have i210’s 5 to utility wedge (50deg) then Stealth wedges in 54 and 58, to give a 4 deg gap, both with 14 deg of bounce and fitted to me along with irons!
Great clubs Andy and very forgiving! A bit like a players version of the CBX!🤔 My son’s a leftie and got rid of his vokey’s, an SM6 and an SM7 to get a set, just because they’re easier to hit!
Well I’m a 15 handicap. I play Callaway XF irons and have Callaway sureout wedge. The game is hard enough so therefore I go for the most help I can. Surely this is the way forward for the average golfer!
I would be curious how the CBX compares to set wedges (in my case the Ping G400) - particularly the SW and LW. Average Golfer started the video talking about set wedges and keeping it simple - I have never heard anyone say what the main differences are between the set wedges and something like the CBX
I’m saving up for them right now (48, 54 & 58). I’m too old to let my ego get in the way of enjoyment. Having said that, I currently play with Mizuno MP T5s, and have never had a any consistent problem with them.
Nope I have older KZG CB forged iron set, but I bought gap-lob from Ben Hogan, all shafted the same length & kept the wedges 4 degrees apart.much more consistent for me
Yeah I think I am a golf snob too. Play off 13. Play Ping i210 irons and SM7 wedges. I wouldn't even say my iron game is that strong. Yet... I just cant bring myself to try or use the Ping G irons. Maybe I should try a 2nd hand set as an experiment myself. Have been thinking this for a while.
I‘ve got a 48 and 56 and they are a short game weapon. Combine those loft with 1/4, 2/4, 3/4 and full swing and you’ve got everything within 120 yards into the green.
Totally agree. Just got a cleveland smart sole sand wedge because i was tired of taking two shots to get out of the bunker. much easier to hit. golf is hard enough...
I play the TM Speedblades. There wedges A, S & L were the first run of what became the TM ATV wedges. They work fine for me. I think the club makers really push the specialist wedges on us because they are 2 to 3 times dearer than the set wedges.
Really like where your are going with these videos. I would say you are the only one talking about game improvement clubs like this out there . As I said on your last video I have taken my ego out of iron play and play xr os for a year and half and have help me on my way down to 5hcp I play mcdaddy wedges 50' 54' 58'. My wedge play would be very strong part of my game so haven't looked for help there. I would recommend anyone to look at the weakest part of there game and see what clubs could help . Everyone even the pros look for the help in there drivers and long irons . So what's the difference in amateur looking for help right through the bag
Awesome Video! Lost my fitted wedges years ago from a set that isn’t made any more.....😞 Have a 56 copper ping eye 2, and cobra 61 trusty rusty. Used club bin beauties. Ego, marketing & look drives I’d say 75% of people’s purchases not if it suits their game or helps them enjoy the game.
pauze @ 6.17 i use them! playing of 8, TM P790 irons so i could use and have used specialised bladed wedges. But why, because these do their job very very good...
I sold my Cleveland hi-bor and bought a set of f8s 5-sw I bought a cobra pur for a wedge but for bunkers am looking at a Callaway sure out, the reasoning behind it is because it should save shots out of the bunker but also because I don't want to ruin the pur as it looks fit 🤣🤣
To be honest, I never ever thought that wedges came in a game improvement vs tour style”blades” I chose mine cause they specialize in wedges. Maybe manufacturers should sell sets in full vs 5 to OS as the norm is now.
After sampling multiple wedges last year, I thought all hope of improving my short game was lost; I think the only wedges I hadn’t tried come July were vokey, ping glide, and these. Needed my 100 yard shot so I gambled on the CBX in 50 loft. Well, in my bag today are the CBX in 50, 54, and 58. Total game changer for an amateur hack like me. Don’t overlook them if your wedge game is an issue
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Did you buy off shelf or was fitted for it?
I've had the 54 CBX and 58 CBX wedges for over a year and my short game is generally excellent. It is the strength of my game (currently a 6.5 index). In particular I think they are better for full shots than the Volkey and Mack Daddy wedges I played previously. But they are great around the green also.
Great feedback thxs Daniel
Daniel Bonebrake I couldn’t agree with you more!! These wedges have completely changed my short game...I LOVE THEM!!
I use the 50, 54 and 58 degree CBX wedge. I like the big sole that helps the club glide across the turf and makes them easy to hit. I recently replaced the steel shafts with steel fiber shafts to make them lighter since my club fitter said they were too heavy for me. My regular irons are Cobra F8 one length with steel fiber shafts.
Thanks for feedback Chet
This is why I love this channel. When I bought my set of M4 irons (4-GW) my thoughts for SW and Lob wedge immediately gravitated to Vokey, Callaway, TM or Ping. I’d heard of Cleveland wedges and the CBX in particular, but I never seriously considered them. So, how is my wedge game with my “players wedges”? In a word… Crap. Yup, I’m tragic around the green. Why? Because for some ridiculous reason I couldn't swallow my pride and play with wedges made for players of my caliber. May be time to revisit that decision.
Great video Andy! Keep telling it like it is.
Sorry for the late response.
I just bought the Wilson D9 irons. I took the SW and PW set, and ordered the GW in same specs seperate.
They do not have a lobwedge. I am now looking in a 58/60 wedge for the bunkers as I truggle with thoses. I saw a Cleveland Smart Sole used and hit a few shots with it and it went great. Searching for those I got here :), It's even bigger than this one :D
I just purchased new clubs this year. After being fit and testing the AP1, JPX 900 Hot metal and Tour edge CBX, I purchased the JPX 900 4-LW. Tried different wedges but liked and hit the Mizuno set wedges the best.
Hi average golfer great video, last year i got fitted for new clubs and so wanted the vokey wedges, i got fitted for CBX irons and my golf pro guided and fitted me to the CBX wedges and I love them, so easy to hit and they hit the green nicely, feel really confident standing over the ball and now i know the distances i really enjoy and look forward to hitting them during a game, in 10 months with my game improvement irons and wedges my game has improved and i have dropped 9 strokes of my handicap. Happy golfing Cheers Aussie Dave
Any chance of a review of the new Cleveland smart sole 4 wedges.
I bought a seven iron length lob wedge 60 degree/ 4 degree bounce and it was very easy to use around the green. Great for tight lies in Oz. Cost $60 US approximately with a graphite shaft. I was looking for a single length set of irons and found them at Milford golf in Victoria Oz. Great value and performance. Most wouldn't consider them as they are not a name brand.
No. I got the Wilson D9 irons to the 48degree PW. but bought the Cleveland cavity CBX2 wedges 52 56 60. But I tried them all and got fitted. Amazing wedges. I have mastered the chip over the bunker onto the green. I can approach from 100 metres with unbelievable confidence. The 56 is superb for bunkers.
I have both the CBX and the smart sole S and I also think a lot more golfers would be better off with them, but they won't use them for exactly the reasons you mentioned here.
great feedback
Greetings Andy my club pro fitted me for clubs a year ago and recomended and fitted me for the cbx wedges and I love them confidence inspiring and easier t heat than my old bladed wedge I now enjoy and look forward to playing short shot into the green happy golfing aussie dave
Good point..but for me it’s not about ego . I test clubs before buying them in the shop and most cases also on course with a demo club. I have an open mind but when it doesn’t hurt my game I play what suits my eye. If it suits my eye it gives me confidence...and golf is a mental game and in my opinion for a great deal based around confidence. For example tested a sure out but my MD PM grind does the job just as well and with more versatility around the green 😇
confidence is a major factor
I agree with you. I think its a very good choice. I use a Callaway Sureout 56 degree myself. Lots of help with that one !!! My friends use ones that are harder to get out of the sand with and end up taking several shots to get out. I like the CBX as well. I am all for game improvement clubs. Cheers Andy.
Got my daughter the Sure Out and the ease of pitching with it jas shave 4 to 5 shots off her score. So EASY to get the ball up in the air!
@@coreyl6221 Great move Corey. The Cleveland Smart Soles are good too.
I can assure you that these wedges are the business! I play off a 4 handicap and to be honest I was embarrassed to put these in the bag.
I took a chance and put a 50° and °56 in my bag and it's the best club decision I have made in years.
I feel like I can hit 2 inch behind the ball and still not dig into the ground and duff it. Let me tell you this gives you a lot of confidence.
I previously had the tour trusty wedges which are brilliant but the leading edges are so sharp despite 10° bounce and if you hit just a hair behind the ball your coming up short.
Even though these wedges have a wide sole they're still versatile enough to open up and not bounce up and skull the ball.
Do yourself a favour put your ego to one side and buy some of these. I've had these now for 3 month playing in soft conditions and now firm conditions and they won't be coming out of the bag for anything.
Oh and at address they look no different than your standard bladed wedge.
Really good feedback Adam. I played today with a 2nd hand 56 and have to agree with all you say, loved it and will look to add more
@@TheAverageGolfer You'll be glad you did. Thanks for all the good videos you do 👍🏻
@@putting63 thank you for watching and commenting
I'm a 12 handicapper and have used these wedges in 54 & 58 degrees since last June with my Ping G400 irons and have to say I find the wedges excellent, I would certainly recommend them.
thanks for the feedback Alex
I have the Srixon Z565 irons and played the Cleveland RTX wedges but changed to the CBX wedges after watching the review . The pitching wedge is 44 degrees so I got the 48,52 and 56 wedges which perform very well and nobody that has looked at them has anything bad to say about them.
I currently play 2 different sets. My PXG 0311XF 5-PW iron set, I use various Vokey wedges I previously had. My Callaway Apex CF16 set is 3-AW with MacDaddy Forged 54 and 58. I had a wedge fitting and was fit for Titleist 50, 54, and 58 S400 shafts with F grinds low bounce,because I’m a sweeper and not a digger. That is why I still use my Old Vokeys and my new MDs are to the specs to match my set.
I have been using Cleveland RTX CB (older version of CBX) wedges for the last two years and saw a great deal of difference in my short game.
good to hear Duncan
6 handicap and Bought ap1 718 5 to pw and matching 48 and 53. Then a cbx 58 for bunkers and short game.,made short game scoring more consistent and distance control much better. Probably the best wedge ive owned. The v sole is brilliant.
I play three wedges from Ping line of Glide 2.0. Really like them. They help you a lot of the way. My wedges is my absolute favorite clubs to hit. Calm swing and lovely flight. You get to enjoy every move of the ball at a close distance. Wedges gives me so much motivation to play the game. I like them much better than the driver. Did play the SM5 Sm6 and SM7 for a while, but Glide 2.0 is much easier to hit, but gives me a nice feel and experience.
After I up graded my clubs to Srixon Z 785, sold my old set,TM R7's . unfortunately I sold my sand and 60' wedge with it and I was lost with out them, they were my strong part of my game, gave ne confidence. I looked at all the fang-dangled new wedges and not happy, with the fee nor the price. so I change my mind set, in that I though,I can use any wedge and practice enough till it is comfortable, confident and predictable , just as my old ones became. so now I used a $8 used wedge, after overcoming the feel and difference in weight , I'm now getting the results I used to get with the old ones.
I use RTX 3, 50 deg wedge and a SM4, 50 deg wedge in my old set both go 100 yards on full shots but the vokey has to be hit out of center RTX will still go 100 yards out of heel or toe. Most forgiving wedges on full shots I ever used were Muzino JPX 52 and 56 degrees just did not like the feel on short chips felt bouncy off face but still checked up good.
Not tried the JPX wedges
Hey mate, just stumbled across you video, and have to applaud your honesty and have to agree with you. I've recently gone back to my PING EYE 2+ SW and LW, after struggling for a couple of years with Vokey wedges. I only bought the Vokeys because everyone else was using them, and I anted to look cool, and the spin milled marketing spiel got me. BUT, the cavity back, and easy to hit Eye 2's make the game so much fun. Well said.
After trying most of top wedges of the last few years I've came up with 3 CBX2s as the most forgiving wedges on the market.
48, 52 and 56...
Too late Andy after your last vid and the fact that I went too z585 I need new wedges to match up specs and I ordered a 50° gap wedge in the cbx. It will be here tomorrow all spec out to me. If it does what I think it will and match up to my irons I will get a sand wedge as well. I will stick to a bladed lob wedge for now as I rarely use it on full swings.
Good decisions Chad!
I currently have md3 wedges but if I had money would definitely consider the CBX wedges. Love the concept - my handicap is circa 16 and I would definitely take the extra help
I picked one up 2nd hand
I bought the CBX2 wedges in 54 degree and in 58 degree. The best wedges I've ever hit. They fly high and straight and the yardages were spot on for me. A perfect compliment to my PXG irons.
These CBX’s are the first set of specialty wedges I’ve ever bought. I’m a 15 HCP and went straight to these after a bit of research. No ego here! I’ll do whatever I can to get help with my short game. Still early days, so we’ll see if they make a difference. Just filling the gap with a 50 deg has certainly helped
Where you fitted or bought of the shelf?
@@nischroopram9948 just bought them off the shelf. Have since changed all my wedges to something less chunky as my game improved and also had to adjust my gapping. So now rocking a Cleveland RTX Zipcore 48* Gap Wedge, cobra 54* Sand wedge, and a TaylorMade Bigfoot 58* with the large sole and 15 deg bounce
Spot on Andy👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
My irons are Apex CF16’s & I noticed that I hit the Apex PW much better than my Vokey SW & LW but I couldn’t get the Apex SW as it’s discontinued. However........... my coach noticed I had a big gap in lofts so I ordered the Apex AW/GW as they had that & I hit it just as well as my wedge & much better than my Vokey.
I have two of these and agree with you 100%. Love them!
I play a 56* Cleveland reg. 588. A tried and proven s/w. Just got a new one in fact as the old one was 20 years old. My pw and gap matches my iron set. Keeping it simple.
I started watching this and just knew you were going to reveal the CBX wedges.I was lucky enough to get two of these wedges one round old for half price,and i have to say what a bargain,i love them.I play AP3s and am even thinking of trying to have a hit with CBX irons. If you do game them,make sure you try them with the graphite wedge shaft option,great feel
It's an excellent point Andy. I have used nothing but Titleist wedges since the early 90's, starting with DCI's all the way through to the milled Vokey's I currently game. Why? I suppose I always like the ability to try different lofts and bounce and could pick and choose, but I'll admit you got me thinking over here! :) BTW, been a while since I visited your channel, still great content I see and congrats on making it up to 16K subs! Well done.
Andy, being 60 years old, my swing speed down to 85 with the big stick, and not getting any younger, I’ve come to the realization that I should play with what works. Not what looks good in the bag. I went to senior shaft pretty much throughout, and just got a set of M-CGB’s for higher launch and all that. I love playing forged and the feel that comes with striking it pure. But when it only happens once or twice a round, time to move on. I looked at the CBX’s, but I prefer (for now) the PM grind wedges. I guess they fall between a players wedge and a CBX type. Now, if I could only stop paying big bucks on putters...and premium balls!
I have CBX2 in my bag now basically because after years thinking I may one day be a great wedge player it’s not going to happen. Theses are so easy to play make me feel more confident over the ball. Try then.
I recently swapped my 3 Mack Daddy wedges for 2 CBX wedges and it’s the best thing I’ve done. My gapping is so much better and these are equally as good for full shots as they are round the greens. They’re very playable, easy to open the face right up, and spin well. Love them.
Great video iv ordered the cbx2 in 58,54 for my gapping in my bag tried the top of the range couldn't hit them but the cleveland proformance wish for me was brilliant just want I needed
Brilliant video Andy... as always ;) As all clubs in our bag they are chosen by the level ur traveling to in ur game.... not so much where exactly u are when u buy them. Some clubs keep at ur hcp ... while others in learning process get u 10-15 shots with each club to improve and lower ur hcp easier. Even if clubs are functioning in most ways and easier to hit at "regular" type of shots of course ;) BUT buying stuff should rarely be about where u are NOW in the game unless u plan to stay there. Luv ya ... ciao from Iceland :D
I changed a year ago and I still sometimes look at them and think they are too big. That’s probably because we are so accustomed to looking at small heads! They definitely have improved my game though!
I have tried them and was very happy with them and the feel, my mindset was that they are a scoring club so why not use help to get scores lower in the wedges too particularly as I scramble a lot. Have since been custom fit with ping g410 irons and have got the wedge and utility and sand wedge all 2 degrees flat and with the same shafts as the rest of my irons. I won’t lie to you, I have had to play a lot and practice a lot to get used to them and it’s not perfect yet but they are winning me over along with G410 driver, wood and rescue.
I recently played a game at a tight but great links course in Tenby with surprising results for me .
😆 spot on Andy ! I did just that. Got fit for JPX 919 HM's and then bought SM18 wedges. Why,Why,Why ! 😂 just ordered 50,54,and 58 degree cbx2s. Wish me luck !🤞
I use these wedges and the results are excellent. Shots from 120yds and in are more consistent - so glad I went away fro the "pro" wedges!
When I bought my P790’s, I had a gap and was offered an approach wedge (at 50 degrees). I dismissed it straight off but the numbers suggested I either needed to include it or pay for a full set of wedges to sort the gap issue.
I purchased it and it’s probably the best club in my bag!
It’s got to be unconscious bias and a bit of pier pressure as to why we think we need the forged wedge set up
I sold my cbx wedges and bought SM7s. My short game is no better and probably worse. You are spot on. It all snobbery
Nice feedback Nick
Well done again Andrew!...I’ve used/tried many wedges over the years but recently purchased the 919HM’s 4-lob set and I’m really enjoying them...I considered going like most with the 4-P and going with a different set of wedges but so far I can’t complain 😁
Hope you continue to enjoy
Own the Cleveland Sole 3 S wedge. Super game improvement wedge and actually bigger that the wedge in the vid. So easy to hit and get the ball up.
Not seen those Jeremy but have to say these are very easy to hit
@@TheAverageGolfer Not sure if they are just offered in the states, but man is it a chunky thing. Alas like u said most won't game these type of clubs cause of the look when in actuality they need to for the help they can offer.
@@jeremykorting6982 so true
@@jeremykorting6982 As you intimated; they aren't available in the UK for some reason. I was looking to get one
Got set right through to sand wedge Ping g25s 5 thru 54 degree wedge. I just had the Cleveland wedge in My hand loved it 58 degree
its so easy to use Ron
This is a really good point and one that’s come not long after I’ve just been fitted for 3 shiny new SM7s. Having said that wedge play is the strongest part of my game and makes up for a weaker long game. The SM7s are very different to my Ping Gs but they’re superb and just glide through the shot. The completely different look and size hasn’t affected me at all... so far!
I have definitely decided to do everything I can this year to make my golf as simple and as easy as I can.
Confession time; I have to admit that I have Never bought a Wedge! I currently have two casts off's and then wonder why my short game is so shite. So I have a Wedge fitting (and a Putter fitting) booked for next month, I was hoping to try the Ping Glide wedges, but I will see if I can try out the CBX as well whilst I'm there.
PS I'm Loving my PXG Driver and Hybrids!!!!!
I have the PW of my Z785 but opted for 50 Vokey/54 PM Grind/58 PM Grind. I did so because I generally only hit partial shots with my higher lofted wedges and they tend to be much better around the greens than set wedges. I hit pitches and chips much more often than I hit full shots with wedges, so I chose my setup based around those needs. I honestly could probably completely do without the 50. I rarely hit it.
good logic Jacob
The lofts are so strong on the newer sets of irons that a PW is usually 43 to 45 degrees. In my set it is 44, so I carry 48, 52 and 56 degree wedges that don’t match my other irons. My wedges are all face forward style from the ease of use perspective.
I was the same and used wedges that look nice and felt nice but since I tested Callaway Sureout I have improved my wedge play so much and still use them now in a 60 and 64
I understand the logic. Then I need data to be able to differentiate which wedge is better for each player. Thanks for the idea Andy👍
I think thats for us all to get custom fit
The Cleveland RTX 1"s also came in a CB head. I play the 48 and 52 for full shots, blades in 56 and 60 for half shots and about the green.
Yeah that make sense
I get pw and aw in the set I use . I always get high toe wedges (pm grind) make it as easy and most help I can get. 54 and 58 don’t need anything below those lofts! Also get as much bounce as you can it’s your friend!!!!!
Love my CBX wedges thanks. Got the 48, 56 & 60.
Great video as always Andy...cheers. Cant argue at all with the comments you made. I read before that there is a reason why Club Manufacturers bring out new clubs so often...because people buy them...its that simple. And 'the average golfer' myself included somehow thinks it would give us an edge. I have been struggling with my wedges...i may need to take a closer look at something that will be more suited to my abilities...
Hi Andy great video and again food for thought ...I have a set of these wedges for the exact reason you have put forward here I play with cavity irons and these have great spin, and so easy to hit ...definitely helps, it's definitely in part ego and snobbery these are great price for a great product providing the golfer is comfortable with the approach and look, which btw they look fine
Interesting stuff Andy . . . I play off 11 and use Vokey’s. Love them but I don’t game bladed irons? Why vokey’s then - ego? - I hope not, maybe aspirations to be better . . . . that said I do get good outcomes from my 52/58 degree wedges - pw same as my irons (Mizuno MP SC)
I've never been able to hit a wedge, but I was fitted for the CBX 54/58 - wound up getting a 50 also, and I am learning how to play wedges now. I may change at some point but I can get out of the sand now.
thats very interesting that you went for these wedges Kim
I have you beat 🤣 I rock Adamas A4 Forged irons. I have 3 sets of them as back ups why....because they feel amazing my distance is awesome with them as yes I have compared them to newer stuff and numbers are the same, I just upgraded Shafts. Callaway hooked me up with Mac Daddy 4 wedges as they feel amazing and love the distances. I’m a 2.6 handicap still loving 10+ years irons. Some of the old technology is still amazing compared to the newer stuff.
just bought 2...54 and 58 and have only heard great things! Can't wait!
I also bag a CBX 50* and I am a 4.1 index. I love it! I also have RTX 4 54* and 58*
As a 16 handicapper, I put 50,54 & 58 CBX wedges in my bag last year replacing Ping Glides - they've made wedge play easier and more enjoyable - it's a no-brainer for game improvement iron players
My friend, when i bought my set of Ben Hogan Ptx, I also bought their Equalizer wedges. They feel great and their performance is outstanding. Hogan Golf Company produced an outstanding product. You need to test them!
if I could get them
@@TheAverageGolfer They have a great testing process where they will send you 2 clubs of your choice to test out. Info in available via their web site bud.
I got a Cleveland CBX full face(64*) to go with my PXG SGI iron set. Now I just need a golf game to go with all this new game improvement gear.
I have i210’s 5 to utility wedge (50deg) then Stealth wedges in 54 and 58, to give a 4 deg gap, both with 14 deg of bounce and fitted to me along with irons!
Them Stealth wedges are nice Keith
Great clubs Andy and very forgiving! A bit like a players version of the CBX!🤔 My son’s a leftie and got rid of his vokey’s, an SM6 and an SM7 to get a set, just because they’re easier to hit!
yes, I bought a set of ping g700s right through to sand wedge but they don't make a lob wedge unfortunately.
I have an old ping i wedge 52 degree for exactly that reason from 110-100 yards it’s so consistent because of its forgiveness
Well I’m a 15 handicap. I play Callaway XF irons and have Callaway sureout wedge. The game is hard enough so therefore I go for the most help I can. Surely this is the way forward for the average golfer!
yes agree
I would be curious how the CBX compares to set wedges (in my case the Ping G400) - particularly the SW and LW. Average Golfer started the video talking about set wedges and keeping it simple - I have never heard anyone say what the main differences are between the set wedges and something like the CBX
I’m saving up for them right now (48, 54 & 58). I’m too old to let my ego get in the way of enjoyment. Having said that, I currently play with Mizuno MP T5s, and have never had a any consistent problem with them.
Just ordered a set of these today.. This video makes me excited about my purchase
I play 3 CBX’s...work great for me usually. The high bounce can be a bit much on super tight lies but overall I really like them 👍🏼
great feedback
After getting fitted for AP3 irons, and consulting the fitter I've got 4 vokeys in the bag too
Love them irons Neil, hope they are all working well
@@TheAverageGolfer after a net 59 In this months medal cant complain 🙌🙌
Nope I have older KZG CB forged iron set, but I bought gap-lob from Ben Hogan, all shafted the same length & kept the wedges 4 degrees apart.much more consistent for me
Yeah I think I am a golf snob too.
Play off 13. Play Ping i210 irons and SM7 wedges.
I wouldn't even say my iron game is that strong. Yet... I just cant bring myself to try or use the Ping G irons. Maybe I should try a 2nd hand set as an experiment myself.
Have been thinking this for a while.
good honest feedback
I‘ve got a 48 and 56 and they are a short game weapon. Combine those loft with 1/4, 2/4, 3/4 and full swing and you’ve got everything within 120 yards into the green.
And yes, get fitted with half and quarter swings
Cleveland make awesome wedges, I Carry 3 Rtx 3s and find them easy enough to hit. Would consider the cbx but don't feel I need the help.
David Fletcher I’ve got 4, love them, I’d use cbx especially in pw and gw
What do you think about Mizuno JPX 919 Hot Metal Wedges?
Very different from CBX? Game-improvement wedges also...
Totally agree. Just got a cleveland smart sole sand wedge because i was tired of taking two shots to get out of the bunker. much easier to hit. golf is hard enough...
lots commenting on those wedges
Got Ping i200’s. Got PW& Utility Wedge. 45&50 degree. Other wedges are Cleveland Rtx 54 & 58 degree. They work but I don’t.... 🤣🤣
LOVE IT
i just ourchased mizubo 919 5-gw then purchased a sand wedge to go with it , but now i kinda wish i waited to try these wedges
I use the Cleveland Rtx 588 2.0 wedges and fight the great from in and around the green.
I play the TM Speedblades. There wedges A, S & L were the first run of what became the TM ATV wedges. They work fine for me. I think the club makers really push the specialist wedges on us because they are 2 to 3 times dearer than the set wedges.
Really like where your are going with these videos. I would say you are the only one talking about game improvement clubs like this out there .
As I said on your last video I have taken my ego out of iron play and play xr os for a year and half and have help me on my way down to 5hcp
I play mcdaddy wedges 50' 54' 58'.
My wedge play would be very strong part of my game so haven't looked for help there.
I would recommend anyone to look at the weakest part of there game and see what clubs could help .
Everyone even the pros look for the help in there drivers and long irons . So what's the difference in amateur looking for help right through the bag
Great comments Aaron and plenty of logic
@@TheAverageGolfer only found your channel recently . Enjoying your videos and taughts
@@aaronslater9826 glad you found and thxs
the cbx that you got is a old model now there is cbx2 and uhx (d ) wedge out in uk october 14th so maybe try them also
Awesome Video!
Lost my fitted wedges years ago from a set that isn’t made any more.....😞
Have a 56 copper ping eye 2, and cobra 61 trusty rusty. Used club bin beauties.
Ego, marketing & look drives I’d say 75% of people’s purchases not if it suits their game or helps them enjoy the game.
I like that last line
What do you think about the ping glide 2.0? Are they in the same boat as the cbx with the ease to hit and forgiveness?
pauze @ 6.17 i use them! playing of 8, TM P790 irons so i could use and have used specialised bladed wedges. But why, because these do their job very very good...
I sold my Cleveland hi-bor and bought a set of f8s 5-sw I bought a cobra pur for a wedge but for bunkers am looking at a Callaway sure out, the reasoning behind it is because it should save shots out of the bunker but also because I don't want to ruin the pur as it looks fit 🤣🤣
So, do you have them in your bag? I'm currently using a 50* and 56* TM Hi-Toes and thinking about going to the CBX2s.
To be honest, I never ever thought that wedges came in a game improvement vs tour style”blades” I chose mine cause they specialize in wedges. Maybe manufacturers should sell sets in full vs 5 to OS as the norm is now.
For me because the wedges are the scoring clubs and I find the rtx3's I play have tighter distance dispersion than the cavity irons I use.
distance control is key in the short game
I have an old fazer 60 degree and it works OK for me... I could do with a new one but it works..
if it works why change it!
Got myself the bigfoot. Don't think it was out when you made this video. And I absolutely love it (60°).
I bought the 58 degree CBX2 because my f9 cobra set only offered a 54 degree sand wedge. I want to score!
Can you do a video putting your bag against the bag with the Great Big Bertha irons and those Cleveland wedges
I havent got a full set of the BBs
@@TheAverageGolfer that's a shame would be a good comparison
Swear they’re hard to find in the UK? Any other wedges you recommend