I was gifted the Alienware R4 17 as a Christmas present. It is the best PC I have ever owned. I don't understand all of the Alienware hatred. It's like hating on Mercedes because you can't afford their cars.
William The 3rd The Alienware hate is because they used to be really expensive for the specs given. Especially for their desktops. Now, they are priced reasonably well for a name brand. The stigma stayed though.
William The 3rd Hey, i was gifted the same laptop as well! But yeah the hate is all because of Alienware's reputation for being overpriced for weak specs. Sorta like apple but with gaming in mind. But they are now priced well with other competitors but they have the more premium design advantage.
Doesn't have anything to do with hating because you can't afford it, the other product is usually more cheaper like MSI and you get better components more ports , and it runs cooler. Alienware uses proprietary Dell components found in XPS such as motherboard and memory. At least when you buy a Mercedes it has alot of high end features and you are getting your moneys worth, not so with Dell, overpriced POS. At the end of the day you're not getting a Mercedes you're getting a Ford pretending to be a Mercedes.
I realized the key to doing a Lisa impression is to talk fast for a second, then slow down dramatically, then speed back up LOL Love your videos so much I watch religiously :)
I'm currently testing the gt73vr 6re with tear downs and I can confirm so far what Lisa says is solid. The cooling solution on this is amazing and the 6820hk is throttle free at 4ghz.
Adriel Bradley You can hear them running but their at idle and they do not spoil up. This laptop is extremely quite unless gaming. Even then it's the most quite laptop equipped with these specs I have tested to date.
When its on ide my GT73vr stays around 1000-1200RPM and you can bearly hear it if your or not thinking about it you dont even notice, you can also turn the fans off if u want lol just put in ECO mode, when gaming without overclocking fans be like "just going to rotate a little to cool few temps" and thats it lol
@@adrielbradley6677 Its quiet af... I set my cpu to 3.5ghz still runs ALL games and rarely needs more than 40% fans speed. At 4+ghz she can be a bit loud.
I bought my Alienware 17 R4 laptop on June 17, 2017 - on my birthday. Great laptop with a premium feel to it. The GTX 1070 8 GB plays every game on ultra settings that I throw at it without breaking a sweat. I edit photos and videos on it and they are rendered fast. The IPS panel is amazing. Beautiful projection of colours and very crisp to look at. What I miss in it is the SD card reader and an optical drive. The LED lights on the machine are just gorgeous! And there's a personality to this laptop that goes well with my style and personality. I carry it in an Alienware Vindicator 17" backpack and that's a beautiful backpack with all the lovely branding on it and metal buckles. My Alienware doesn't get hot as I have heard about it - and I live in a furnace. In Lahore, Pakistan, the temperature goes to 49 degrees Celsius easily during a hellish summer that begins in March and ends after October. And I don't find the fans to be too noisy at all.
ZILL NIAZI I agree, i have the same one with 1070 and it never got too hot on my lap. You gotta praise the forward hinge design that directs the heat to the back of the laptop instead of being underneath.
I have to say you may be my favorite reviewer as a whole now. Your head to head videos are great, and you cover all the bases of the product without marketing it or hyping anything. Really looking forward to more videos from you.
Sent myvaleinware back today I was getting temps up to 95 c during games. I might try out the msi now after watching this video. Thanks for the in depth review!
I watched this video 2 weeks ago as I was on the verge of buying one of these computers, and a lot of other videos but this one in specific encouraged me to leap towards the msi mainly for the cooling system. {Thank you Lisa Gade) The Alienware does look cooler and the slick design was hard to brush aside but I did and not regretting it. The msi does not disappoint, the performance is outstanding. Now last week in school, a girl bought the Alienware r4 17 with a gtx 1070 and told me the GPU died out in a week but dell came to repair it at her house(great customer service) and so far its working fine despite the constant overheating that draws concerns. Anyone planning on buying either, good-luck! May proper thermal provisions be with you.
The alienware looks so.... oddly understated for a gaming notebook especially an alienware i mean wow i would like to see more of that and less red lights on everything
Glad msi addressed their heat issues. Use to have an older model that had a single cpu and gpu fan and got rid of it because of the heat. Currently have a alienware 17 r4. Great comparison
I don't like that as even a large object like a pen lid/cap can slide in there - even large pieces of dust, dirt, muck, and objects can damage the heat sink fins etc.
The MSI completely destroys the Alienware in every single way except for thinness. I picked up the gt73 and was surprised at how light it was compared to the Alienware. And only 2 USB ports? What were they thinking?
I’ve had both brands. Alienware all day everyday. If not for build quality alone. Switched to msi a few years ago a gt72 dragon edition. A year in the hinge broke and cracked the bezel. 2years in the charger port caught fire. Switched back to Alienware currently got the 17 r5 new 6 core i7 gtx 1080 with the qhd screen and loving it. It’s a shame that my very first Alienware 10 years ago was better built than today’s msi smh
We of course don't count "Miracle Melvin" who survived being under water for 20 minutes after falling through the ice at Old Mr. Patterson's Pond in the mild winter of '94.
Joshua and the cooling is massively better.. thinking about getting the msi since i dont want my computer to sound like a jet and melt within two years
It is... I have the 120hz gtz1080 MSI. Alienwares are pretty and all but MSI just has the superior hardware. Slim is pointless, max performance is what I want. Guaranteed the MSI will outlast and outpower it.
Besmot Sudip oo my bad. I wanna order one too but i havnt pulled the trigger yet bcuz of all the issues i hear people saying about them. Mostly the thermal issues. But i want the 15 r3 with the 1080 max q
so all driver updates for msi have to be done manually? guess im buying the alienware. plus my previous xps 15z lasted me 4 years. how is it like reliability wise and also do they have software compatibility issues? anyone that has an alienware please do comment.
Thanks for the Review. Can you do a review for the Lenovo p70 with Xeon e3-1535 and Quadro P5000? And if its worth putting so much money for the better quality, or do the bisness notebook have a higher build quality in the first place!?
Lisa will you do a review for the new alienware 15 r3 with the gtx 1080 max q?? Im really interested in buying that laptop but im concerned about alienwares heat issues?? If i repaste it will i be ok?? I have heard the real prpblem is the triangular heat sink in the alienware. Ive heard that becuase of of its shape its difficult to get all 3 points to make contact which is what leads to the thermal issues in these otherwise beastly machines. Otherwise i might just go for the msi but i may wait for the new gt75 coming out soon. What do you think?? Is alienware going to cause me headaches?? Thanks lisa love your vids!! Your reviews are always on point!!
On every laptop review please do a extensive battery test. For example playing fhd video in loop, browsing and playing youtube. Switching to low power mode or eco mode. For all laptop including msi, gsync off test and gsync on test for msi gt73vr because it has option for integerated graphics switch. And also for gaming laptop include extensive gameplay but dont record inside the laptop using inbuilt recorder, record the display outside using your camera. If you think gameplay will extend the video length then post the gameplay in seperate video and include the link. These were the points missing in your review, and also for gaming laptop, play it in room temperature above 30 degree Celsius and include the room temperature on all gaming laptop review, i bought msi gt73vr after seeing your video. My room temp without AC is between 28 to 38. My cpu temp is always at high 80 and it does thermal throttling. But battery which you didn't cover extensively is phenomenal. 5 hours+ with integerated graphics. Battery is really a pleasant surprise for me but multi tasking not so much.
I had the Alienware briefly, and had to exchange it 3 times before giving up on it. Beware of pretty bad backlight bleed on the Alienware along both right and left sides. It seems they cheaped out on the screen, or have bad quality control. Like Apple, keep in mind with Alienware you are mostly paying for the brand, which is why you can find better configurations at better prices through Asus and MSI . My Alienware was bought at Bestbuy, so it did come from a reputable seller. Since then have moved over to the MSI
well i just got the msi 72vr 7rf Apache pro the other day and realy loves it ,but out of the blue i just did spot a stuck pixel ..if i cant fix it i just turn it back since i have a 30 days open sale..and who knows how what the january sales gone look like ..if i spot a better option in the same price range i can trade it back ..damn that stuck pixel ,the rest is just Perfect
Hi, i am really thinking about buying the Msi because of some promotions going on. I am concerned about the msi display, i owned the alienware few months ago and returned it because it had bad overheating issues, but the ips display was amazing during movies and gaming, even could watch videos at 4k but gaming is only at 1080p. I wonder how does the msi display compare to it? Hope you reply. Thank You.
I'm just wondering bcz some people write they have the alienware r4 now almost a year. Won't alienware release a r5 or something like that or aren't they updating their laptops too regularly?
XxJohnxX They almost never update their laptops except when there is a new intel processor or graphics card. So if you are looking into one, now is the best time to get one.
on the review for the alienware 17 r4 in particular it had alienware written on gloss finish and tobii eyetracker was next to the camera but this one has an alienware written on matte finish and tobii eyetracker below the alienware sign... what is the difference someone please help im about to buy 17 r4 and i want to get the one from this review not the one that has alienware written on the gloss panel like in the first review for it
I bought the MSI, same model because it was a few hundred less than the Alien ware. Should have stuck with my gut and bought what I wanted. Exactly 1 year and 2 months, 2 months past warranty the MSI pulled the black screen of death. The motherboard has to be be replaced through no fault of my own. They want more than I paid for the laptop to replace it. After watching your video Alienware will be my replacement.
Hey, Lisa. Great review! I badly need your opinion. I'm torn between HP OMEN X 17t vs ALIENWARE 17 r4 with both similar specs of: -i7-7820hk (both) -gtx 1080 (both) -32gb ram (both) -QHD 1440p 120Hz TN (AW 17) vs Full HD 1080p 144Hz IPS Display (Omen X) both w/ GSYNC -256GB PCIe SSD+1TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s(AW 17) vs 1TB M.2 NVMe 2280 SSD+2TB 5400rpm HDD(Omen X) *it would cost me an additional $500 just to get 1tb+1tb on AW where I can get 1tb+2tb and save $500 with omen* but is there a big diff in performance from these specs/brand/type of storage? I watched most of your reviews and I know that Omen X doesn't have subwoofers and AW's screen is a lil better from my research but Omen has more usb slots and sdc reader than the AW. I'm just very weary with AW's cooling system for I've read a lot about its thermal throttling issues. Can you give me your honest opinion between the two laptops with the specs I've provided? As well as pros and cons that you can point out? Both are in very close price range atm with the specs I mentioned. Thanks you!
If you own a laptop that you want to repaste, i recommend sending it to iunlock in vancouver. I had him repaste and repad my alienware 17 r4 which was having stuttering issues.
@Lisa How do you get my games to span over 2 screens on the Alienware R4 17 ( GTX 1080, 16GB RAM, I77820HK ) I have 2 Dell UP2516D @ 2560 x 1440 Thanks :)
Great vid thanks. My 4 year old Alienware 17 (I74900MQ) 16GB ram GTX680M is still going strong..the new one is way too deep I think for most normal rucksacks...bummer. AW/Dell make quality products as for upgrading mine to a GTX980M? and 4930MQ I'm not sure it's worth it...
I thought I would add a few comments to this review as it convinced me to purchase an Msi over the Alienware. First the msi might run cool, but it is the loudest laptop I've ever owned. If you game with other people expect them to to complain about the jet engine in the room. The keyboard font is just awful one of the worst I've seen. I've had to spend a huge amount of time trying to get the monitor to look how I want. For two grand the monitor is very poor. In less than two weeks the bluetooth stopped working, then the killer software stopped. Having to revert back to the default install after posting this. If I could return this laptop I would and purchase myself an Alienware.
Could anyone Please tell me why alienware does not have touch screen ? Already Razer Blade Pro provides touch screen gaming laptops. Unfortunately Razer Blade Pro is not sold in India and the only option is buy alienware. So I am waiting for alienware to become touch screen gaming laptop. Will it ever be possible ?
I’m actually currently looking for a computer and I’m going with the Alienware 17 r4 it’s so beautiful and is perfect and those pink lights and other colors are awesome the MSI IS CHEAP LOOKING and I’m not cheap
Hello, i have the alienware 17, with 32 gb of ram ddr4 at 2400mhz (2x16), gtx 1080 with8 gb gddr5 overclocked, intelcore i7 7800hk ( quad core 8mb cache ) , 256 gb of ssd and 1 tb of sata. I made a good bought or i should bought the msi?? Sorry i don’t speak very good english because i am argentinian.
Alienware, are expensive buying their brand /name. When u used them, still the stronger and longer life of others. Only One thing the design had never change bigger and heavy machine. :)
Why do laptop manufacturers insist on such huge bezels on the display with giant manufacturer name is beyond me, they need to learn from mobile manufacturers on how to make their product more attractive to consumers.
I have used both of these laptops the alienware had the 1070 and the msi the 1080. I have to agree the display on the msi was nicer but you can adjust the alienware. But the noise from the msi with the fans on holy crap they were so loud I thought my house ac was on. Over all there both nice and powerful you won't go wrong with either just depends on what looks you like best they both have pro and cons small ones I think. Oh I didn't notice a hear problem on the alienware I know dell supposedly fixed it?!
Hai Sun i j7st purchased the same one last week. So excited for it to be delivered. My previous gaming laptop was a clevo p157sm 15.3" with i7 4700mq and gtx 770m. So im excited to see the improvement
Hi.. ok. I have failed. I need to buy a gaming laptop at around 1900 dollars. But i am stuck. The more videos i watch, the more confused i get. Likr seriously, i do not get all the mechanical terms. All i need is a latop that can play games at ultra setting and is durable with less noise from the cooling system or smthing. Thats it. Help me. Any1. WHO KNOWS D WAY??
0TheVegan0ThatCould0 Sorry to hear that, if it was delivered to you, then it probably got messed up during delivery, hence why i got mine in store. Still have no issues with my Alienware ever since i got it for Christmas. Hope for the best with your laptop!
Imperial Redguard oh yeah. Both are amazing. As long as I can play games on them, idc what I play on lol And congrats on your R4. Those things are beast!
It's not fair to compare a computer that's $1700-$1800 to a $3000 computer! I have watched several comparison videos about the Alienware because I'm thinking of getting one and every video is doing the same thing by comparing it to a computer that is $1000-$2000 more than the Alienware! NO SHIT the other computer is nicer it's twice the price! I want to see a video that compares two computers of the same price and tell me which one is better not two computers that have the same components!
I was going to buy Alienware but after watching the video and reading the comments I'm confident in MSI, thank you.
Great video as always Lisa!
Thanks you very much Lisa! I was looking for a video just like this
I was gifted the Alienware R4 17 as a Christmas present. It is the best PC I have ever owned. I don't understand all of the Alienware hatred. It's like hating on Mercedes because you can't afford their cars.
William The 3rd
The Alienware hate is because they used to be really expensive for the specs given. Especially for their desktops. Now, they are priced reasonably well for a name brand. The stigma stayed though.
Hate from me is because of the hardware failures I had and crappy customer service. At least I got a refund, though.
William The 3rd Hey, i was gifted the same laptop as well! But yeah the hate is all because of Alienware's reputation for being overpriced for weak specs. Sorta like apple but with gaming in mind. But they are now priced well with other competitors but they have the more premium design advantage.
Doesn't have anything to do with hating because you can't afford it, the other product is usually more cheaper like MSI and you get better components more ports , and it runs cooler. Alienware uses proprietary Dell components found in XPS such as motherboard and memory. At least when you buy a Mercedes it has alot of high end features and you are getting your moneys worth, not so with Dell, overpriced POS. At the end of the day you're not getting a Mercedes you're getting a Ford pretending to be a Mercedes.
Warlock M u got a refund and ur complaining about crappy customer service?
Alienware is so slick and expensive looking. I love my alienware 15.
I realized the key to doing a Lisa impression is to talk fast for a second, then slow down dramatically, then speed back up LOL
Love your videos so much I watch religiously :)
I'm currently testing the gt73vr 6re with tear downs and I can confirm so far what Lisa says is solid. The cooling solution on this is amazing and the 6820hk is throttle free at 4ghz.
Adriel Bradley You can hear them running but their at idle and they do not spoil up.
This laptop is extremely quite unless gaming. Even then it's the most quite laptop equipped with these specs I have tested to date.
When its on ide my GT73vr stays around 1000-1200RPM and you can bearly hear it if your or not thinking about it you dont even notice, you can also turn the fans off if u want lol just put in ECO mode, when gaming without overclocking fans be like "just going to rotate a little to cool few temps" and thats it lol
@@adrielbradley6677 Its quiet af... I set my cpu to 3.5ghz still runs ALL games and rarely needs more than 40% fans speed.
At 4+ghz she can be a bit loud.
Had mine since release day and 0 issues. Its the best tech product ive ever bought...
The first real desktop replacement.
@@xXxBo5sANaCxXx Sport mode is the best for gaming :) never needes more than 3.5ghz! And it stays pretty quiet.
What a great review, thanks Lisa :) I got the MSI and very happy with it, for the reasons you put forth. TC!
I bought my Alienware 17 R4 laptop on June 17, 2017 - on my birthday. Great laptop with a premium feel to it. The GTX 1070 8 GB plays every game on ultra settings that I throw at it without breaking a sweat. I edit photos and videos on it and they are rendered fast. The IPS panel is amazing. Beautiful projection of colours and very crisp to look at. What I miss in it is the SD card reader and an optical drive. The LED lights on the machine are just gorgeous! And there's a personality to this laptop that goes well with my style and personality. I carry it in an Alienware Vindicator 17" backpack and that's a beautiful backpack with all the lovely branding on it and metal buckles. My Alienware doesn't get hot as I have heard about it - and I live in a furnace. In Lahore, Pakistan, the temperature goes to 49 degrees Celsius easily during a hellish summer that begins in March and ends after October. And I don't find the fans to be too noisy at all.
ZILL NIAZI damn man u have very longgg summer damnit
ZILL NIAZI I agree, i have the same one with 1070 and it never got too hot on my lap. You gotta praise the forward hinge design that directs the heat to the back of the laptop instead of being underneath.
I love that forward hinge design. I wonder why people keep on talking against it.
It's my dream Laptop :)
ZILL NIAZI good
I have to say you may be my favorite reviewer as a whole now. Your head to head videos are great, and you cover all the bases of the product without marketing it or hyping anything. Really looking forward to more videos from you.
Sent myvaleinware back today I was getting temps up to 95 c during games. I might try out the msi now after watching this video. Thanks for the in depth review!
your reviews are always brilliant and thorough, yay!
Does anyone else want to see her do a gaming channel? She just seems like she would be amazing for it.
ideal mom?
astralboy79 or like aunt lol. Honestly, I wish she was in my family because that would be amazing.
Lisa as always, another great review. Will you be reviewing,the new MSI GT75VR?
Greate reviews you make! Thank you!
You forget to mention that the warrenty is voided if you open the bottom cover on the MSI to upgrade it since you break the seal.
FlyingLunatic not in the United States.
I watched this video 2 weeks ago as I was on the verge of buying one of these computers, and a lot of other videos but this one in specific encouraged me to leap towards the msi mainly for the cooling system. {Thank you Lisa Gade) The Alienware does look cooler and the slick design was hard to brush aside but I did and not regretting it. The msi does not disappoint, the performance is outstanding. Now last week in school, a girl bought the Alienware r4 17 with a gtx 1070 and told me the GPU died out in a week but dell came to repair it at her house(great customer service) and so far its working fine despite the constant overheating that draws concerns. Anyone planning on buying either, good-luck! May proper thermal provisions be with you.
The alienware looks so.... oddly understated for a gaming notebook especially an alienware i mean wow i would like to see more of that and less red lights on everything
It looks professional and somewhat business like laptop, at least at the front interior rather than the exterior clamp shell.
Good god, you just set the standard for a detailed but not boring review.
Glad msi addressed their heat issues. Use to have an older model that had a single cpu and gpu fan and got rid of it because of the heat. Currently have a alienware 17 r4. Great comparison
The back of MSI looks like Aventador tail lights!!!...
I don't like that as even a large object like a pen lid/cap can slide in there - even large pieces of dust, dirt, muck, and objects can damage the heat sink fins etc.
Lisa you are the review Guru!! Thankyou..
The MSI completely destroys the Alienware in every single way except for thinness. I picked up the gt73 and was surprised at how light it was compared to the Alienware. And only 2 USB ports? What were they thinking?
Naggi mine doesn’t, my friend with an msi always has to check his temps cause it overheats all the time
I’ve had both brands. Alienware all day everyday. If not for build quality alone. Switched to msi a few years ago a gt72 dragon edition. A year in the hinge broke and cracked the bezel. 2years in the charger port caught fire. Switched back to Alienware currently got the 17 r5 new 6 core i7 gtx 1080 with the qhd screen and loving it. It’s a shame that my very first Alienware 10 years ago was better built than today’s msi smh
This is why i sub to this channel. every question in this debate answered.
Grat video Lisa, I really love your videos, super conplete info
Why does the Alienware have painted heat sinks? Does that not defeat the purpose?
Good morning Lisa! Back again with the notification squad! Although its sleep time over here :)
Lisa since I knew ur Chanel (last year) ur the best in the world
Nobody wrote, "First"? It's like the kids have finally grown up and left the house.
handquake First!
We of course don't count "Miracle Melvin" who survived being under water for 20 minutes after falling through the ice at Old Mr. Patterson's Pond in the mild winter of '94.
handquake lol
Or no kids watch this channel...
handquake second!
It sucks, I like the look of the Alienware more, but the hardware seems significantly superior on the MSI.
Joshua and the cooling is massively better.. thinking about getting the msi since i dont want my computer to sound like a jet and melt within two years
@@wholesome4028I think it must be variable. I have an AW17 R4 GTX 1080p, OC, that runs fine without repasting. I guess I must have been lucky.
It is... I have the 120hz gtz1080 MSI.
Alienwares are pretty and all but MSI just has the superior hardware.
Slim is pointless, max performance is what I want.
Guaranteed the MSI will outlast and outpower it.
my first love alienware 17.
lol u too man
Did you have any thernal issues and have to repaste?
nope..i said 1st...not present...
Besmot Sudip oo my bad. I wanna order one too but i havnt pulled the trigger yet bcuz of all the issues i hear people saying about them. Mostly the thermal issues. But i want the 15 r3 with the 1080 max q
thermal issue stays... as shown here..but thou its pretty much good option now a days..you know...
Lisa have you seen the new laptops at IFA?
They are gorgeous
so all driver updates for msi have to be done manually? guess im buying the alienware. plus my previous xps 15z lasted me 4 years. how is it like reliability wise and also do they have software compatibility issues? anyone that has an alienware please do comment.
Lisa will you be doing any reviews on the new Huawei products?
Are you going to do a review on the new Razor stealth 13.3 inch?
Thanks for the Review.
Can you do a review for the Lenovo p70 with Xeon e3-1535 and Quadro P5000? And if its worth putting so much money for the better quality, or do the bisness notebook have a higher build quality in the first place!?
Lisa will you do a review for the new alienware 15 r3 with the gtx 1080 max q?? Im really interested in buying that laptop but im concerned about alienwares heat issues?? If i repaste it will i be ok?? I have heard the real prpblem is the triangular heat sink in the alienware. Ive heard that becuase of of its shape its difficult to get all 3 points to make contact which is what leads to the thermal issues in these otherwise beastly machines. Otherwise i might just go for the msi but i may wait for the new gt75 coming out soon. What do you think?? Is alienware going to cause me headaches??
Thanks lisa love your vids!! Your reviews are always on point!!
MSI always. Superb, they're not skimping on quality.
Will there be a review of the MSI GT75VR?
Hi! Are you going to review the new razer blade pro full hd (gtx 1060)?... I know it is not out yet, but it seems interesting
Hello Ms. Gade. Very good comparison video. Compared to the MSI, what do you think of the Asus G701VI with the Kaby Lake 7820 processor? Thank you.
I haven't reviewed it, so I don't have first hand experience. Some folks have complained the CPU runs hot, which is odd for a machine that big.
Thank you. Maybe, time to review it!
I hope Alienware will make more compact notebooks around 2018/19
On every laptop review please do a extensive battery test. For example playing fhd video in loop, browsing and playing youtube. Switching to low power mode or eco mode. For all laptop including msi, gsync off test and gsync on test for msi gt73vr because it has option for integerated graphics switch. And also for gaming laptop include extensive gameplay but dont record inside the laptop using inbuilt recorder, record the display outside using your camera. If you think gameplay will extend the video length then post the gameplay in seperate video and include the link. These were the points missing in your review, and also for gaming laptop, play it in room temperature above 30 degree Celsius and include the room temperature on all gaming laptop review, i bought msi gt73vr after seeing your video. My room temp without AC is between 28 to 38. My cpu temp is always at high 80 and it does thermal throttling. But battery which you didn't cover extensively is phenomenal. 5 hours+ with integerated graphics. Battery is really a pleasant surprise for me but multi tasking not so much.
Hey I was wondering that could you do a review of the y720 and make a comparison between it's price range,thanks
can you please do a comparison between the msi and the predator 17 ?
I had the Alienware briefly, and had to exchange it 3 times before giving up on it. Beware of pretty bad backlight bleed on the Alienware along both right and left sides. It seems they cheaped out on the screen, or have bad quality control. Like Apple, keep in mind with Alienware you are mostly paying for the brand, which is why you can find better configurations at better prices through Asus and MSI . My Alienware was bought at Bestbuy, so it did come from a reputable seller. Since then have moved over to the MSI
@MobileTechReview please review the hauwei matebook X!!! It seems like something great for class, but I want to know your opinion on it.
The traditional non chiclet keyboard, and the seperate touchpad buttons alone make the alienware worth picking over the competition.
Please do a review between titan and the new raider gtx 1070 variant plz
well i just got the msi 72vr 7rf Apache pro the other day and realy loves it ,but out of the blue i just did spot a stuck pixel ..if i cant fix it i just turn it back since i have a 30 days open sale..and who knows how what the january sales gone look like ..if i spot a better option in the same price range i can trade it back ..damn that stuck pixel ,the rest is just Perfect
Great video, I would like a review & comparison for Aorus X7 DT V7
Hi, i am really thinking about buying the Msi because of some promotions going on. I am concerned about the msi display, i owned the alienware few months ago and returned it because it had bad overheating issues, but the ips display was amazing during movies and gaming, even could watch videos at 4k but gaming is only at 1080p. I wonder how does the msi display compare to it? Hope you reply. Thank You.
do u think the downfiring speakers on the msi would be a problem while playing on my bed?
I'm just wondering bcz some people write they have the alienware r4 now almost a year. Won't alienware release a r5 or something like that or aren't they updating their laptops too regularly?
XxJohnxX They almost never update their laptops except when there is a new intel processor or graphics card. So if you are looking into one, now is the best time to get one.
on the review for the alienware 17 r4 in particular it had alienware written on gloss finish and tobii eyetracker was next to the camera but this one has an alienware written on matte finish and tobii eyetracker below the alienware sign... what is the difference someone please help im about to buy 17 r4 and i want to get the one from this review not the one that has alienware written on the gloss panel like in the first review for it
I'd love to see a smackdown between these and the Gigabyte P57Xv7-KL3K3!
I bought the MSI, same model because it was a few hundred less than the Alien ware. Should have stuck with my gut and bought what I wanted. Exactly 1 year and 2 months, 2 months past warranty the MSI pulled the black screen of death.
The motherboard has to be be replaced through no fault of my own.
They want more than I paid for the laptop to replace it.
After watching your video Alienware will be my replacement.
When you going to review the new hp omen?
Honestly HP Omen is so bad and HP has a bad reputation of thermal Issues and factory problems.
Love the video. Word of advice, talk a little slower, so that the rest of the world can understand what you are saying.
Lisa what laptop would you go for
Predator 17
Alien ware 17
Or the msi
I'm going for alienware
Phoenix Lounge I went with msi and I'm loving it !!
I just ordered an Alienware 17 on Amazon !
i7-7820 HK, 32Gb RAM, GTX 1080, 1TB PCI-e SSD + 1TB SSD
Thanos Titan how is it going?
Peter Janbo best laptop ibe ever seen so far
Can u do a review of Hp omex 17t (gtx 1080) plz ??
Could you please review the Lenovo Legion Y720 please?
When will u review asus ux550ve ?
Hey, Lisa. Great review! I badly need your opinion. I'm torn between HP OMEN X 17t vs ALIENWARE 17 r4 with both similar specs of:
-i7-7820hk (both)
-gtx 1080 (both)
-32gb ram (both)
-QHD 1440p 120Hz TN (AW 17) vs Full HD 1080p 144Hz IPS Display (Omen X) both w/ GSYNC
-256GB PCIe SSD+1TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s(AW 17) vs 1TB M.2 NVMe 2280 SSD+2TB 5400rpm HDD(Omen X)
*it would cost me an additional $500 just to get 1tb+1tb on AW where I can get 1tb+2tb and save $500 with omen* but is there a big diff in performance from these specs/brand/type of storage?
I watched most of your reviews and I know that Omen X doesn't have subwoofers and AW's screen is a lil better from my research but Omen has more usb slots and sdc reader than the AW. I'm just very weary with AW's cooling system for I've read a lot about its thermal throttling issues. Can you give me your honest opinion between the two laptops with the specs I've provided? As well as pros and cons that you can point out? Both are in very close price range atm with the specs I mentioned. Thanks you!
thanks a lot for the info!
I have a MSI Apache pro and the brushed aluminium gets really hot. Almost dont want to touch WASD to do any gaming. And thats only on a 960m
how would u compare these to razer pro? Thanks for the great videos btw
Dude. She would never compare real gaming laptops to that over priced disaster.
alateralus88 Razer has problems with throttling, overheating, and overall is very overpriced in value compared to these two great beasts.
Hello... Is there anyway to make the alienware not get extremely hot
If you own a laptop that you want to repaste, i recommend sending it to iunlock in vancouver. I had him repaste and repad my alienware 17 r4 which was having stuttering issues.
Find him on NotebookReview Forums.
Can either of these machines support 3 monitors?
@Lisa How do you get my games to span over 2 screens on the Alienware R4 17 ( GTX 1080, 16GB RAM, I77820HK ) I have 2 Dell UP2516D @ 2560 x 1440
Thanks :)
can you give me one that laptop's after ur review that laptops ?
Watching on my GT73VR :3
xXxBo5sANaCxXx no one cares
Dank -O I care
I got one too :)
Did you get the 4k screen??? I just went 120hz 1080p screen and always wondered if the 4k was legit.
why such low quality vids, your other reviews have hd?
UA-cam has to render all resolutions. Usually takes them up to an hour.
Oh ok, I didn't know, thanks for letting me know :)
Does there any laptop better than Alienware 17 at it's cost .....if there please reply i am buying it.
UA-cam is prob still converting it
avrohom gross True. Quite a few people don't seem to be able to grasp that. 😨
Great vid thanks. My 4 year old Alienware 17 (I74900MQ) 16GB ram GTX680M is still going strong..the new one is way too deep I think for most normal rucksacks...bummer. AW/Dell make quality products as for upgrading mine to a GTX980M? and 4930MQ I'm not sure it's worth it...
What about the msi GT75VR?
I thought I would add a few comments to this review as it convinced me to purchase an Msi over the Alienware. First the msi might run cool, but it is the loudest laptop I've ever owned. If you game with other people expect them to to complain about the jet engine in the room. The keyboard font is just awful one of the worst I've seen. I've had to spend a huge amount of time trying to get the monitor to look how I want. For two grand the monitor is very poor. In less than two weeks the bluetooth stopped working, then the killer software stopped. Having to revert back to the default install after posting this. If I could return this laptop I would and purchase myself an Alienware.
Could anyone Please tell me why alienware does not have touch screen ? Already Razer Blade Pro provides touch screen gaming laptops. Unfortunately Razer Blade Pro is not sold in India and the only option is buy alienware. So I am waiting for alienware to become touch screen gaming laptop. Will it ever be possible ?
I’m actually currently looking for a computer and I’m going with the Alienware 17 r4 it’s so beautiful and is perfect and those pink lights and other colors are awesome the MSI IS CHEAP LOOKING and I’m not cheap
How do you not have a billion subs?
Personal opinion for gaming what would you choose
Msi
What we all been waiting for
Hello, i have the alienware 17, with 32 gb of ram ddr4 at 2400mhz (2x16), gtx 1080 with8 gb gddr5 overclocked, intelcore i7 7800hk ( quad core 8mb cache ) , 256 gb of ssd and 1 tb of sata. I made a good bought or i should bought the msi?? Sorry i don’t speak very good english because i am argentinian.
@@maxxvl2562 thanks for the response man! Only two years away :)
Alienware, are expensive buying their brand /name. When u used them, still the stronger and longer life of others. Only One thing the design had never change bigger and heavy machine. :)
Why do laptop manufacturers insist on such huge bezels on the display with giant manufacturer name is beyond me, they need to learn from mobile manufacturers on how to make their product more attractive to consumers.
this is normal for gaming laptops, a lot of Dell's regular laptops have very thin bezels like the Dell XPS line
I have used both of these laptops the alienware had the 1070 and the msi the 1080. I have to agree the display on the msi was nicer but you can adjust the alienware. But the noise from the msi with the fans on holy crap they were so loud I thought my house ac was on. Over all there both nice and powerful you won't go wrong with either just depends on what looks you like best they both have pro and cons small ones I think. Oh I didn't notice a hear problem on the alienware I know dell supposedly fixed it?!
Oops that's heat
Adrian it’s not even that loud. You must have sensitive ears.
Damn, I bought the Alienware 17 R4, but the 1070 version, I did not have heat issues, am I lucky or it eventually gonna happen?
Hai Sun There used to be heating issues. Now Dell fixed those heating issues, and CPU
Thank god, and thanks!
Hai Sun i j7st purchased the same one last week. So excited for it to be delivered. My previous gaming laptop was a clevo p157sm 15.3" with i7 4700mq and gtx 770m. So im excited to see the improvement
please review ux550, zebook pro. :D
I prefer to not worry about cooling. So all the way with MSI.
Guys i jst ordered AW 17 R4 4K screen version. I heard its not good for gaming? I want to play games like cs go, division nd pubg!
good review
Alienware G4 Baby!! All day! 💪🏼
which one should I buy???
SirChamelot msi
SirChamelot Alienware is good and powerful. But i would buy msi titan pro if i was u
thx...
SirChamelot no problem
r u korean? I am too
Why not both
Except I’m poor
Hi.. ok. I have failed. I need to buy a gaming laptop at around 1900 dollars. But i am stuck. The more videos i watch, the more confused i get. Likr seriously, i do not get all the mechanical terms. All i need is a latop that can play games at ultra setting and is durable with less noise from the cooling system or smthing. Thats it. Help me. Any1. WHO KNOWS D WAY??
My alienware r4 died a week out of the box so I sent it back and got the Msi. I don't regret it.... I miss the lights on my R4 tho.
0TheVegan0ThatCould0 Sorry to hear that, if it was delivered to you, then it probably got messed up during delivery, hence why i got mine in store. Still have no issues with my Alienware ever since i got it for Christmas. Hope for the best with your laptop!
Imperial Redguard oh yeah. Both are amazing. As long as I can play games on them, idc what I play on lol And congrats on your R4. Those things are beast!
It's not fair to compare a computer that's $1700-$1800 to a $3000 computer! I have watched several comparison videos about the Alienware because I'm thinking of getting one and every video is doing the same thing by comparing it to a computer that is $1000-$2000 more than the Alienware! NO SHIT the other computer is nicer it's twice the price! I want to see a video that compares two computers of the same price and tell me which one is better not two computers that have the same components!
No. If you configure them to the same specs. They're the same price.
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1440p is NOT 2K