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Scale Trains, Big Dreams
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- Опубліковано 2 бер 2023
- This all-encompassing documentary produced by TrainMasters TV takes you back to when we launched our company in 2015 and features the development process for our very first HO Scale locomotive: Union Pacific 8500hp “Big Blow” Turbine locomotive. During the premiere, you’ll have an opportunity to connect with us in the live chat where you can ask questions about our company, models, and discuss the documentary with fellow viewers.
The Scaletrains models are my favorite models in almost all aspects. Definitely beautiful and functional.
Their locomotives are the only ones I really buy now! Seems like others can't really make that cut for me.
Thanks so much for the kind words. We appreciate your business. -Drayton
@@Scaletrains As mr Spock would say 'live long and prosper'
The moment this was announced I was excited. As someone who recently decided to leave O gauge down to HO or N Scale trains is one of the bigger reasons of why. Amazing Documentary and I am proud to soon be an active customer of Scale trains.
Thanks so much for the kind words and your patronage! We appreciate your business. -Drayton
I will too when they produce S scale
This video is absolutely amazing.
I had no idea how difficult that is dealing with someone on the other side of the Earth. A lot of BS phone calls, video chats not to mention traveling all the way over there many times. All I can say is congratulations scaletrains you made it happen!👍👍👍🚂
Thanks so much for your support. -Drayton
Wow, very transparent and interesting. Cool process!
I absolutely wish ScaleTrains the best success and may you prosper in all aspects of your business.
Thank you so much for your kind support, Gerhard. -Drayton
Incredibly Worthwhile Content.
You are a premier manufacturer, great company, great team, great models. Thank you. From México 🇲🇽
It is unbelievable how much goes into building some of the models. Thanks for the detailed work you all do designing the specifications and overseeing production. The level of quality is outstanding. I really like the turbine starting and stopping. Over the last few years the sounds coming from model railroad rolling stock has become so good. I consider myself lucky to live only a short way from Deshler, NE and Spring Creek Model Trains where I can see and touch these items and marvel in the details. I am brand new to the hobby and looking forward to years of joy engaged in it.
Welcome to the hobby! We're happy you're here. -Drayton
As a native of Chicago as a kid I always went to the IRM with my father and grandfather, it was an awesome sight, and now I’m 18 and working for the Belt Railway of Chicago. Maybe you can make one of our engines in the future, thanks guys for this amazing video
Definitely excited to see this! I absolutely love scaletrains and their products! One of the best if not the best manufacturer out there!
Thanks so much for your support. -Drayton
I am glad James Wright and I could be a part of this event and be there for the beginning of Scaletrains at TrainFest 2015.
We're thankful to have you both as friends and supporters. -Drayton
Shane and company, you've done a fantastic job. ScaleTrains quickly became my model of choice several years ago with my first purchase of the Burlington Northern SD40-2 (Rivet Counter). You've set the bar high, you're performing tremendous outreach with your nationwide tours. It's amazing. I'm looking forward to many more years in this hobby with ScaleTrains being a part of it.
I don't think I'll ever question why some locomotive models cost 3,4 even $500 or more ever again!
Right!!! Most people are completely CLUELESS and have no idea of the tremendous amount of time and huge amounts of money it takes to produce a product like this. Those are the type that mostly complain ALL the time!! That's when a 12 inch piece of duct tape comes in real handy!! Ha Ha......
Very well done with the storyline and the production of the video. Not only does the hobby need well researched and highly detailed models like yours, we also need to see what it takes to turn a dream into reality. Until someone has the opportunity to experience the product development lifecycle, you really don’t understand the constant challenges, setbacks and expense of putting a product like this together. Congratulations on an outstanding product!
Thanks so much for the kind words, Chris. We're glad you enjoyed the video. -Drayton
It's interesting seeing a locomotive through the manufacturers eyes and how they picture the details of manufacturing while seeing the prototype.
My goodness Shane, I had no idea it took this much effort to get the proper dimensions for the model I love. Thank you.
Thanks for watching. -Drayton
I want to own a coffee donut shop with Scale Trains running all around .
This has been long awaited to come to UA-cam and I’m hyped for it!
What is it?
@@AbelG8781 You will see!
@@NorthCountryTrains but you already know?
@@AbelG8781 You would get a hint by watching my recent ScaleTrains: The Interview video
@@AbelG8781 its gotta be their first steam loco
Oh my, it’s been 8 years already!? Incredible. Sorry I missed visiting with you all when you came to our train club (SAMRA) in San Antonio, TX. I just don’t do well in cramped spaces since we expected hundreds of people to come to your visit at the club. So glad you men are thriving in your business. If you recall, I mentioned that it would be wise to set up for an alternate country to build your models, like India. China is now entering an economic war with the U.S. and other countries which was bound to happen. Hopefully things will settle down and business can proceed as usual. Or, maybe you’re in the position now to build your own factory at least in a small way to test feasibility.
Thanks again and all my best.
Kevin D.
Awesome, can't wait for some new projects. My collection is 80% Scale Trains.
Wow! That's a lot of ScaleTrains. Thanks so much for your business. -Drayton
I got back into the hobby in 2019. I bought a couple of other locomotives before I found out about you. It wasn't until I was looking for what I thought was a tall order that I found you. I was looking for something whit good detail, an ESU Decoder, and truck/walkway lights. NOONE except you guys make your locomotives like that! I have been so impressed with your locomotives that all I buy now is ST locomotives! Thank you guys for the detail that you put into the models!
Hello! What a beautiful story this company has. I am very happy to purchase ScaleTrains products. I am grateful for the existence of this company that makes it possible for us to practically have a real locomotive in our homes.
This is an awesome vid. IRM is train Heaven!!!👍👍👍😁
I don't know the quality of the UP turbine HO model, but the video production is absolutely excellent! The inclusion of Chinese scenery from a passenger train was really elemental portraying the switch to Chinese high quality production.. The lighting of brass machining was excellent. This video makes me want to buy a Scale trains UP turbine HO model even though I work in Z-scale and like the animation of gauge 1 trains.
It's fantastic to hear that our video has sparked your interest in the Scale Trains UP turbine HO model, even if you primarily work with Z-scale and enjoy the animation of gauge 1 trains. We believe that the love for model trains transcends scales, and we're thrilled that our content resonated with you.
Should you decide to explore the HO scale world or simply continue enjoying your Z-scale and gauge 1 trains, we appreciate your support and enthusiasm for the hobby. If you ever have any questions or need further information, please don't hesitate to reach out.
Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts, and we hope to continue creating content that inspires and informs fellow model train enthusiasts like yourself.
-Drayton
He started modeling right after scale Trains would’ve started, and I had no idea who they were. I had got rid of all of my O gauge and started with the HO the first engine I bought was a CSX T4 from scale trains. I remember being amazed how heavy it was compared to a couple others I had bought and the detail and quality.
And now I have roughly 45 engines and probably over 100 cars from them. Watching this video I do not model UP but might consider buying one of those. That is amazing product.
Brilliant Video! Thanks for sharing your journey with us and an amazing successful launch because all of your clients had that same smile they had I bet when they were kids looking at trains for the first time! Cheers! 🤠👍
Thanks so much! -Drayton
New to the hobby and major on detail. This just sold me on the brand primarily due to the enthusiasm and dedication of the owners
As a fan from over the pond, who only started collecting North American HO gauge last year, starting with Athearn blue box and thinking that they were okay then I managed to get one of your sound fitted rivet counter models and wow😮😮😮😮 what a difference. I'm definitely hooked on your models they are fantastic and they are the only ones that I buy now. 👍👍👍
My kid is never going to collage if you keep making such great trains!!! LOL🤣
I’m very impressed at the amount of effort you all have invested to create a team that produces such beautiful art. I am always amazed at the level and scale of detail the Chinese technicians and artists are able to work with. Obviously this kind of detail and expertise is costly but the joy and satisfaction makes the price worthwhile for the collector. What I am most impressed with is the team you have created both in the US and in China to bring these models to fruition. Congratulations!
Really awesome! Very well done. Glad I chose Scale Trains for my first locomotive purchases. Being new to the community I didn't know where to start lol. Saw some Scale Trains locomotives reviews on YT and thought, this is a good place to start. After learning the history a bit I'm glad I did. Long way to go... but boy is it going to be fun getting there. Thanks for sharing 🤠
Just remember, model railroading is a journey, not a destination. Its a journey with an almost infinite number of routes to take. Welcome to the greatest hobby on Earth!
@@modelrailpreservation I think that is what has drawn me to the hobby... knowing it was a journey that can last me as long as I like and never get old or stale. Thanks for the welcome! 🤠
Great story. Great video. Wishing you all the best for 2023 and beyond. Keep up the great work. Thanks.
Thank you! Will do! -Drayton
What a great story, and thank you for sharing! All the best, may you experience success for many years to come. As a patron, looking forward to seeing new products! Would love to see a run of CP military engines!
Thank you so much for your business and support. -Drayton
After watching this video I will definitely start buying and supporting this company. Great job
Just outstanding.. thank you for great models, especially the high hoods.. waiting for southern GP30
Coming soon! Stay tuned. -Drayton
Wow it's incredible of how much work it goes into it. You guys make the top-of-the-line best locomotives in the world, I have operator BNSF locomotive. It's amazing cuz of all the hard work you guys put into it. I'll surely be getting from your company. Great jod Scaletrains
Thanks so much for the kind words and your business. -Drayton
I’m a big steam collector so when scale trains came out with the UP six tenders I had to snag the pair. Waited a year for the second release and it was 100% worth it
I really appreciate your hardwork thank you for bringing us the details and realism that we've been wanted ..
I bought the n scale #18 and love it , have pre ordered the n scale GE Standard Turbine with tender #60 and SD40-2 UP #8080 , will be buying more , thank you and the China team for a wonderful product
I ordered one of the big blows just had to get one not sure how i afforded it but did and not disapointed when it finally arrived but due to costs of all brands of models the next loco was the GP30B which is days away from arriving . Yes its hard getting details right as things change during the life of the loco
Thanks for all you do. I have been very happy with all my Scaletrains products. Keep up the great work
Love scaletrains keep knockin it out of the park happy you guys are here
Thank you, Ramsey! -Drayton
@@Scaletrains your very welcome drayton you guys rock
I just bought Csx 911 and Bnsf 6111 from you guys and I’m not disappointed! It’s better than Athearn Genesis
Every single year I get enough money I buy a scale trains engine and multiple scale trains cars. I also love your detail on the Rivet counter series. I will never complain about anything by scale trains only because there’s nothing to complain about.
What a great production this video is! Thank you for sharing. I really admire your commitment to your vision(s) to have
started videoing your journey all these months ago! Best always, guys. I have five Scaletrains HO locos now ... anxiously awaiting the GP30 in large Rio Grande scheme ... pre-ordered at Lombard.
I reckon you guys are more than capable of producing the UP Coal Turbine & Steam Turbine in HO since you did an awesome job of the Gas Turbine I have all of your UP water tenders in various versions. I was over the moon to hear that scaletrains brought out Jim Adams & Joe Jordan water tenders so much so I bought 3 sets plus the black yellow & silver ones too. You've done the train modelling world a huge favour with your excellent products.
I'm a packaging engineer/designer and have worked with many companies that have the exact horror stories of working with China and not getting stuff correct and having to air freight the correct parts to get them as fast as possible. I know you can't beat the price on having tooling made and the labor for getting things made in China. Sucks this can't be done in the USA, but it would cost you right out of the market. Great looking trains!!
Thanks for sharing your insights, Aaron. You're right, we would be priced right out of the market and our factory workers are incredibly skilled at making model trains. We're grateful for their craftsmanship. -Drayton
Really appreciate this video👌🏾 I’ve purchased 4 GEVOs over the past 2 months and pleasantly surprised. I’m always looking at these at my local shop but I still have my eyes in a few more GEVOs from you guys.
I don’t have a ScaleTrains train yet, but I will.
Can't wait to add one to my collection #18 is close to me
Your UP turbine model is fantastic! But the video is outstanding! 👍🏻👍🏻 I hope you are able to keep up that same level of fidelity as the years proceed. Thank you for such an informative video. I would hope other manufacturers would make the same type of video.
I just want y’all to make dmall steam specifically small steam with oil tenders. It’s next to impossible without kitbashing or custom making. 4-4-0s moguls prairies mikados consolidations I’d literally spend my full layout budget in order to have my entire fleet be scale trains small steam only if y’all made them. It’s crazy to think Bachmann is the top in small steam
Scale Trains is definitely No 1. Top of the line.
Respect!
A great video on how to make dreams real. Lots of money, time and hard work.
Absolutely. Thanks for watching. -Drayton
I really like the attention to detail y’all put into the Rivet Counter series Union Pacific auxiliary tenders. I was thinking, maybe you should try making Southern Pacific 4449’s auxiliary tender in HO scale too. That would be phenomenal and I would definitely buy one.
I'm a M1A1 tank commander ret. And the turbine I just heard on train sounds exactly like the start up/run on the tank I spent decades on. 1500 agt turbine eng on Abrams has about 7 to seconds start cycle the apache helicopter has similar but much smaller type system and sounds like the tank and the train
awesome documentary.
Excellent!!!!
Many thanks! -Drayton
Definitely excited to see this! I've got #18 & #26 on the way from you guys!!
Thanks so much for your preorder. -Drayton
Most of them are from Athearn, crazy.
Wonderful video
Thanks! -Drayton
Scale Trains is no 1.
Pretty cool. Nice work.
Best of luck with your company.
This was really cool!
Thanks so much for watching! -Drayton
Hoping to see S Gauge Trains really soon. I'm really hoping you can do better than MTH did! Thanks for your time!
S Scale trains are coming soon! Stay tuned. -Drayton
I hear ya. I’ve got a large American Flyer set I gathered through the years growing up starting with my first early 50’s set. Ive been wanting to get in to model trains but everywhere I look for info is just HO and Lionel three trackers. I guess the old AF trains are not popular anymore since Gilbert went out of business but I’ll never loose the love for them.
Well done as a real team toghether
I thoroughly enjoy my Scale Trains N-scale "Big Blow". I also have the brass version from several years ago. I have found yours to be superior in every way. ( especially in running capabilities). Keep 'em coming. (Is there any chance you might be doing the U.P. 3 unit coal turbine in the future? )
Scaletrains has come a very long way
And we would not be where we are today without support from customers like you! Thanks so much for having our back, buddy. -Drayton
I am still waiting for the reefer container with sound that I ordered some time ago and you said you would not build those until you had enough orders to fill it.
This order still shows pending
Whats going on?
It is about time that they should have been built and shipped out.
Excellent video. I hope you do another similar video as you begin steam productions, esp with streamline steam. Can we get a PRR S-1? Anyways, keep up the good work.
Its really too bad ESU lost Matt, He was a great guy to work with. He always praised alot of my custom sounds and logics I would share with them on the ESU Custom Installs page
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Matt was a big help to us for many years. We will miss working with him. -Drayton
It's great that ScaleTrains has been able to start a successful model train business. I am a fan of ScaleTrains products and have purchased many that fit my late 70's - early 80's Rio Grande and SP modeling, particularly the tunnel motors and SD45's. I'm hoping ScaleTrains gets around soon to doing the common SP SD45 with the L windshield and high-mount brake cylinders. My chief worry is, with China becoming more bellicose and hostile to the world, that ScaleTrains is depending on a country that might get shut off for model train production should China follows through with invasion of Taiwan. China seems dead set on an invasion so I'm not sure how model train production would continue in that event. If only there was another country where model train production could be shifted to.
This was a great history lesson about Scale Trains. With current world relations, do you have plans on moving production away from China?
are you guys going to make tooling for steam eventuily I would recomend possibly doing some smaller tank engens as that seems to not be an area of manufacturing in years. Also a 2-4-4t would be a good fit the only surviver is at irm ic 201
Hi Scale Trains, How about producing a line of modern day EMD locomotives like, SD60M, SD70M, SD70ACE, SD80MAC, SD9043MAC, SD90MAC-H locomotives? And of course in HO Scale I'd like to see you produce your take on EMD double diesels, like DD35A and B locomotives and DDA40X locomotive in HO Scale.. How about it?
More Nscale would be awesome. HO ppl already basically have everything they could ask for
HA YEAH RIGHT for us we need some SD45-2Bs ,B30-7AB an AC6000CW BN SD40-2 mid 90s style with flag on the side BNSF dash 9s with no lettering and BNSF warbonnets all in ho scale
Ohh there’s a lot to be desired in HO. I’ve fabled on and out of n for over 30 years. HO since at least 1984-85 when I was 5-6 years old. 😂👍🏻
Reefers of Cyrotrans. Lineage and BNSF Trinity. 20-2 auto racks, modern intermodal trailers ehh hem…ABF, RL, and so on. Vehicles. A lot of BN SD40-2 in different time frames. Definitely B39 and B40 variants c40-8 and variants. A lot to do and be done yet. I got drug into modern Those LRS 60 foot blue boxcars are literally everywhere now. New intermodal well cars are too especially the last what 5-7 years now. National Steel Car, Gunderson/Concrail Mexico Trinity, definitely time to saturate the late 80s to modern times with models us Gen Xers are wanting.
That is a lie, lol. Until all the HO steam prototypes made in brass got new modern tooling with DCC capability, then your statement could be true. Unfortunately, there just is not that many N-scale companies that prioritize that scale.
@@Railfan-uf9mw boo hoo… us Nscalers need all that and more. If a loco is even made in N the chances are its not the most prototypical or something wrong with the looks
no hate on china but whats the cost difference and manufacturing difficulty if the models would be USA made completely? or is it even possible?
Excellent question. I believe hobbyist will pay extra if it brings jobs to America.
Our customers would pay about 3x more if the models were made here. -Drayton
@@Scaletrains wow. It is a wonderful model and I wish you the best. God bless!
@@joeystrains.9316 Well, in a word no. That's of course why they're manufactured in China, Vietnam, Indonesia, Thailand or wherever because hobbyists aren't willing to pay large sums of money for a model locomotive no matter where it's made.
@@muir8009yup, it's easy to say they would pay more, but when it comes time to pay up, I wonder how many would actually would do that when they see the price tag!
Hi ScaleTrains, I am scale train fan from China, and I am also working on making model train. I think maybe we can have a cooperation in this area.🌹
That would be cool! -Drayton
lol! cant even make it here in Murika!!!!
Just throwing out wishes... N scale SD70ACUs, CP & NS
Good suggestions! -Drayton
Southern railway rules too
Amen. -Drayton
Would a translator/interpretor have made a difference?
So what's the cost of this unit??????
Visit ScaleTrains.com to learn more. -Drayton
Scaletrains rule
Thank you! -Drayton
US coins are not magnetic, nor were they when made of silver. How could they be ripped from his pockets?
Athearn had trouble in China where the company kept their molds and they had to go to a court to get their product back good luck you guys not really
I got a n scale locomotive ( no I'm sure what loco it is ) . I needed it fix . So I called to see about sending it in for repair and all I got from some dude on the phone was arguing about what I was sending in . I just wanted to send it in to get fixed . So there it sits in a box because you guy that u have answering da phone is kinda a Douche. Sorry guys but it sucks because I just wanted to get it fixed because it was so cool . It had sound and dcc already built In . Bummer.
i would blow up and put my trains on fire , but i loved having a train set on a pieace of plywood , most of my trains were buchannan and atlas HO GAUGE
Interesting ... glad to see we are supporting China.
You guys make one of the best product out there but it's unbelievable how you're using such cheesy little couplers they are awful. Now we have to switch them all out because they Pull-A-Part all the time. You guys almost had a 100% proof item until you put those couplers in there...
It's just to bad you have to have these made in China. While they are made in China, I will not purchase any of your product. Being the company back to the USA and then I might have a better sense of your product. being a dye sinker's child I know how much work goes into making the dies for these models but you can get the work done here in the USA.
Not for a price that they can still make any profit. He stated on the other comment it would triple the cost or more to the consumer.
@@LMP-R That's fine and as I said, I will not be purchasing any of the products...What are you going to do if and when we go to war with China and you can not get any product???
Yep and made much better too. Everything I’ve bought and seen come out of there was some of the cheesiest crap ever seen. Heck if you take in all aspects it really would be that much cause the price may be lower but you’ve got higher shipping and handling, longer times, products break after minimal use if your lucky not to receive the item broken or parts missing. Let’s not even bring up trying to read instruction manuals or dealing with customer service. I’m willing to pay extra and I do just to do without the nightmare.
Gentlemen: I am going to give you a million-dollar idea, which EVERYONE has missed - perhaps 2 or 3 ideas. The first: take a moment and rail fan a real train. The power units, the cars - they are (generally) covered in grease and grime, GRAFITTI and spillage from various rolling stock and some minor damage - and RUST. Everything, well almost everything is weathered. ALL, and I do mean ALL of these wonderful model railroads are running around with pristine units - which appear that they have just left the manufacturing shop. It's UNREALISTIC. it makes these very expensive railroads appear toy-like, amateurish - just not real. Someone, some company needs to either come out with GRAFITTI stencils or stick-ons or with prepainted cars that are covered with GRAFITTI. My second idea: many/most of the rolling stock today has plastic wheels: listen to them as they click and clank across the tracks - once again, extremely toy-like and unreal. The wheels need to be made of metal - to acquire that realistic clickity-clack sound. My final point would be - could there be, should there be a way to weigh down, you know, to add a load to the rolling stock. Precast aluminum or steel bars which can easily be added to rolling stock. Watch the rolling stock on these million-dollar home model railroads: the cars shake and wiggle - it's funny, it's a joke. The rolling stock needs to have some weight to them - and they don't. I guess that my final thought would be to have electric or magnetic uncouplers for the rolling stock and power units. I see men pointing skewer sticks between the cars to disconnect them - is this really the best we can do? Ok, well keep up the great work. I'd also like to see miniature CAMERAS in the cabs of the power units: now wouldn't this take model railroading to the next level? Drive/control the trail with a view out the front of the lead power unit?? Wonderful.
Railroads are very protective of their corporate image. They are unlikely to license the use of their logo to a company that's going to fade that logo and cover it with rust and grime.
What Barry said. Also, our wheels are metal already. -Drayton
You do realize that all your ideas have already been done for many years and are freely available? You said that everyone has missed these ideas and not one thing you've said is a new idea, some having been around for over 100 years. Also, who are you to denigrate toy trains and call any efforts to be amateurish? Maybe you should get off your high horse and actually have a look at people's efforts, and don't have this self imposed expectation that every model train enthusiast and buyer as having the same aims and desires as what you have.
Maybe you should have thought more about what you were writing before you wrote it?
Personally, I don't mind my locomotives and rolling stock being pristine and clean. They look great either way, clean or weathered! Also nearly all that stuff you just mentioned is already available to get that look from paint and decal companies. The only thing that really isn't available yet is the Miniature cameras, which I think that's still a few years away before we can get them small enough to not interfere with the locomotive's mechanism. Also virtually all the manufacturers, including Scaletrains, locomotives and rolling stock comes with metal wheels now! If there is anything still equipped with plastic wheels, it'd be the cheaper Bachmann sets, but even those would be the exception rather than the rule! All that being said there's really only 3 rules to model railroading:
Rule 1: IT'S YOU'RE RAILROAD, BUILD IT YOU'RE WAY!
Rule 2: MAKE SURE YOUR TRACK WORK AND EQUIPMENT IS IN GOOD OPERATING CONDITION TO AVOID FRUSTRATION DOWN THE LINE!
Rule 3: THERE ARE NO RULES AFTER RULES 1 & 2!
@@randallellison6421 well said Mr Ellison. I tend to feel some seem to forget that modeling is a personal enjoyment, with personal interests. I personally feel that a warbonnet F unit is absolutely supreme in majesty, and look just as good sitting, gleaming or in any state, it's a glorious piece of transportation art.
In the thirties lionel of course had their flying yankee which they rightfully chromed. They looked like what they were: shining examples of the highest tech available.
Speaking of lionel, they marketed a few decades ago their railscope, where a camera was mounted in the front (obviously!!!) And it transmitted the picture to a screen. Tech was a bit deficient 20 odd years ago so it's not stunning, but they do pop up on Ebay every so often. If I'm honest with you I've seen the loco cameras in action and I'm a little amiss as to the point. It seems to just emphasize the extreme curvature that even the most generously proportioned layout actually has due to the visual perspective, and it's just too reminiscent of looking at a computer game...
Nice comment Sir
Creating locomotives is time consuming tedious work and the Chinese master that. So many small parts. I doubt an American workforce could compete on any level with the Chinese
Curious why you never showed the interior of the cab? If your talking about UP engineers, I'm one myself, why not show the seat of our power? The cab?
Interior decorating may not be their strength. I build awesome scale buildings, but no patience for the interiors.
It’s a shame no one can ever get their hands on your products