What about heat? Everybody talks about performance, but at what cost?? Heat and noise are a couple of things that are at or near the top of my list these days. Things like RGB? Not so much. In fact, I'd love to see a short episode on tools and methods on minimizing the heat output / power input of a system. How low can a CPU be clocked and still have it work? Which desktop CPUs perform best at extremely reduced power levels? Is a fanless, 400W 7950X3D build even possible? Ok, maybe I'm getting a bit silly but hopefully you get the point. I can certainly appreciate the liquid nitrogen crowd but how about a similarly extreme effort in the other direction?
Just build something with efficient components and decent cooling. I believe I reached this goal with my current system (i5 12400, RTX 4070 and Noctua fans) and it's whisper quiet under full load - totaling at roughly 350w. If you run Noctua fans at a fixed low RPM they are inaudible and I'd recommend doing this instead of going fanless, unless you're in a specific niche like music & sound recording. But nowadays you can grab any Ryzen 7000 chip, run them on ECO mode ~65W - Gamers Nexus have a great video covering this
i'd like to thank Phil Spencer and the other xbox engineers that decided to limit the xbox series x to a gen 4x2... 2 effing lanes.out comes a 2230 with great speed, but we're still stuck at 2 lanes!
I am hoping for you AND every major content creator cover Twitch Enhanced Broadcasting and Address the elephant in the room. (If you don't know its Twitch's way of pushing the workload when it comes to multiple encoding off on the streamer) instead of handling it themselves.
It's awesome that you're still on a GH-5. You managed to stick with Panasonic long enough for them to have finally attained good autofocus with their newer cameras. Never thought they'd actually finally get good autofocus lol.
Nice if some of the pro-level digital mirrorless cameras would include connectivity for portable SSD storage so that we could use the Lexar products being offered.
My main concern is the amount of heat that these things put out. I have one in an enclosure and it will sometimes crash though it only happens once every couple of months. Some of the enclosures have fans which I've heard helps.
Honestly, I'm less interested in raw SSD speed and more interested in capacity. We're at the point of diminishing returns now for SSD speeds, loading 0.1 seconds faster is largely irrelevant. But having an extra 3TB of storage of games on the same SSD would be amazing. I want 4TB 2230 SSDs and for 2280 I want the affordability of 8TB SSDs to improve significantly.
It looks like a damn sd card or even micro SD card, but it's a SSD O_O, the normal cooling on high end PC's & laptops should do well on it's reduced surface area, in the same space compared to cell phone sized SSD & HDD's of years past ... It will allow laptops to be more portable & powerful, & PC's to go to 8k without burning the house down...maybe!?!
@@zechssiguro7476 NVMe slots are typically passively cooled on motherboards right now. Maybe we'll start seeing coolers for nVME boards at some point, This thing should be good at 2,230. I have a Gen 3.5 NVMe and it does get hot in the passive external enclosure. Mine is set up for storage rather than speed as it's only USB-C and runs around 800-900 mbps. Much lower than the rated speed.
@@zechssiguro7476 M.2 2230 SSDs are nothing new. These have been around for a good few years now. They don't really have anything to do with gaming at 8K. And they would actually be worse at cooling than their 2280 counterparts as it'll run the same wattage in a smaller area with less airflow and cooling ability.
same. but they use this size for the rog ally and many people have been upgrading them with higher speed ones. i'm using a western digital black ssd in my ally and have never had any issues with heating as the ally itself gets hot on turbo mode.
Still waiting for affordable large storage external ssds for the consumer. None of this stuff that's like...oh you want 6tb of ssd storage then you'll need $1k lol. I really need to replace my 10 to 12tb external hdds.... takes a year to transfer files lol
Hopefully they have corrected the v90 cards. It was well known that they had errors and could not be trusted with footage. Had my own experience and sent then the cards back. Fortunately it was nothing catastrophic.
another reroll of how fast technology can be. I remember paying like $200 for over 1gbps when games use like 5mbps. lol. It really is a scam unless you know what your doing.
Paul regards the DDR 5 Ram, does AMD am5 support fast ddr 5 speeds or even benefit from the higher speeds with newer motherboards, bios updates to make it worthwhile in this faster ddr5 ram?
Hey Paul! I’ve been looking for a new SSD to upgrade my Ally, do you know if they’ll release the Play 2230 in 2TB version, or just the 1TB? Thanks for the great coverage as always!
Lexar isn't exactly known for quality anymore since they sold to a Chinese company in 2017. People who say otherwise will eventually find out the hard way.
Slow memory still, it should be at least 2x of the previous generation, as the number is not the frequency of the memory itself, but its interface. Otherwise it doesn't make sense.
Hm, these Compact Flash Express sound interesting, especially if they are backwards compatible. Amazing speeds, these are even faster than portable SSDs or USB drives.
You mean CF Express being compatible with ancient Compact flash Cards? No. It's a completely different technology. It's named CF Express because the body supporting it is the CompactFlash Association. Old CF is (P)ATA based, CF Express is PCIE based; there is a dead CFast spec using SATA. All specs are not interchangeable. But if you mean CF Express PCIE4 on older CF Express PCIE3, yes, they are, just operating at PCIE3 speeds.
IMCs are already struggling to keep up with DDR5 at 6400 with loose timings. Advertising them at 8400 is, at best, deceptive unless the timings are hilarious.
I guess the card-readers are at 10Gb's or worse at 5Gb's. So you cannot get the near the fulls speed of the CF cards. You need 20Gb's USB 3.2 2x2 or USB 4 at 40 Gb's. Sad.
Great video. As for mobile storage ; i have the SanDisk Extreme PRO microSDXC UHS-I Memory Card 1 TB + Adapter & RescuePRO Deluxe (for Smartphones, Action Cameras or Drones, A2, Class 10, V30, U3, 200 it's been a great option for my needs.
@Lexar - I prefer heatspreader designs that cover the corners of the PCB but still leave enough room to press the latch should removal be needed. Old design wins between the two IMHO.
ddr is a term usually used in ram so it may be a fake. it probably is pcie ram or ram for the wlan card slot. although at 1tb it is not too far of a stretch to be genuine because a couple years ago storage that small at 1tb was fairly unheard of now it is becoming more common.
Lexar … hmmm looks like rebranded Team Group. Team group is way better value and hardly anyone mentions them. They have outstanding memory products and the best prices and also the quality is very good to best because it’s made in Taiwan, not China mainland junk.
Can you please post your extensive research on how products from Taiwan are of superior quality to those from China? Team Group's "support" and "warranty" are hilarious. Spend 15 seconds looking at how they handle claims and get back to us.
What about heat? Everybody talks about performance, but at what cost?? Heat and noise are a couple of things that are at or near the top of my list these days. Things like RGB? Not so much.
In fact, I'd love to see a short episode on tools and methods on minimizing the heat output / power input of a system. How low can a CPU be clocked and still have it work? Which desktop CPUs perform best at extremely reduced power levels? Is a fanless, 400W 7950X3D build even possible? Ok, maybe I'm getting a bit silly but hopefully you get the point. I can certainly appreciate the liquid nitrogen crowd but how about a similarly extreme effort in the other direction?
Just build something with efficient components and decent cooling. I believe I reached this goal with my current system (i5 12400, RTX 4070 and Noctua fans) and it's whisper quiet under full load - totaling at roughly 350w. If you run Noctua fans at a fixed low RPM they are inaudible and I'd recommend doing this instead of going fanless, unless you're in a specific niche like music & sound recording. But nowadays you can grab any Ryzen 7000 chip, run them on ECO mode ~65W - Gamers Nexus have a great video covering this
i'd like to thank Phil Spencer and the other xbox engineers that decided to limit the xbox series x to a gen 4x2... 2 effing lanes.out comes a 2230 with great speed, but we're still stuck at 2 lanes!
deja vu
Killing it Paul n Joe keep up the great work homies 🤘💯
Damn Paul, you keep making these CES videos that I watch even tho I’m not in the market! Portable SSD is something I’ve been considering for years!
I am hoping for you AND every major content creator cover Twitch Enhanced Broadcasting and Address the elephant in the room. (If you don't know its Twitch's way of pushing the workload when it comes to multiple encoding off on the streamer) instead of handling it themselves.
It's awesome that you're still on a GH-5. You managed to stick with Panasonic long enough for them to have finally attained good autofocus with their newer cameras. Never thought they'd actually finally get good autofocus lol.
Interesting LEXAR writes MT/s instead of MHz, Ian will be proud.
Nice if some of the pro-level digital mirrorless cameras would include connectivity for portable SSD storage so that we could use the Lexar products being offered.
My main concern is the amount of heat that these things put out. I have one in an enclosure and it will sometimes crash though it only happens once every couple of months. Some of the enclosures have fans which I've heard helps.
Honestly, I'm less interested in raw SSD speed and more interested in capacity.
We're at the point of diminishing returns now for SSD speeds, loading 0.1 seconds faster is largely irrelevant.
But having an extra 3TB of storage of games on the same SSD would be amazing.
I want 4TB 2230 SSDs and for 2280 I want the affordability of 8TB SSDs to improve significantly.
It looks like a damn sd card or even micro SD card, but it's a SSD O_O, the normal cooling on high end PC's & laptops should do well on it's reduced surface area, in the same space compared to cell phone sized SSD & HDD's of years past ... It will allow laptops to be more portable & powerful, & PC's to go to 8k without burning the house down...maybe!?!
@@zechssiguro7476 NVMe slots are typically passively cooled on motherboards right now. Maybe we'll start seeing coolers for nVME boards at some point, This thing should be good at 2,230. I have a Gen 3.5 NVMe and it does get hot in the passive external enclosure. Mine is set up for storage rather than speed as it's only USB-C and runs around 800-900 mbps. Much lower than the rated speed.
@@zechssiguro7476
M.2 2230 SSDs are nothing new. These have been around for a good few years now.
They don't really have anything to do with gaming at 8K. And they would actually be worse at cooling than their 2280 counterparts as it'll run the same wattage in a smaller area with less airflow and cooling ability.
same. but they use this size for the rog ally and many people have been upgrading them with higher speed ones. i'm using a western digital black ssd in my ally and have never had any issues with heating as the ally itself gets hot on turbo mode.
Still waiting for affordable large storage external ssds for the consumer. None of this stuff that's like...oh you want 6tb of ssd storage then you'll need $1k lol. I really need to replace my 10 to 12tb external hdds.... takes a year to transfer files lol
Hopefully they have corrected the v90 cards. It was well known that they had errors and could not be trusted with footage. Had my own experience and sent then the cards back. Fortunately it was nothing catastrophic.
I like the low-tech Velcro in this high-tech Consumer Electronic Show.
For the rog ally users, whats the working temperature range on the gaming micro sd?
Small SSD good, small GPU bad. Getting mixed signals here
I like Paul. I see new video. I click
Wish SSD capacities would increase to 8TB to 16TB being common and cheap.
You live in La la land
Nice to see the new/future tech like this. I wouldn’t see it otherwise, ty!
Hello everyone
another reroll of how fast technology can be. I remember paying like $200 for over 1gbps when games use like 5mbps. lol. It really is a scam unless you know what your doing.
Ever since 2016 i try to find a gen 5x NVMe drive, why so slow ?
Small enough to fit in smaller NVMe ports, remove the Blue Touth, network, Cel card ?
Paul regards the DDR 5 Ram, does AMD am5 support fast ddr 5 speeds or even benefit from the higher speeds with newer motherboards, bios updates to make it worthwhile in this faster ddr5 ram?
Hey Paul! I’ve been looking for a new SSD to upgrade my Ally, do you know if they’ll release the Play 2230 in 2TB version, or just the 1TB? Thanks for the great coverage as always!
Lexar isn't exactly known for quality anymore since they sold to a Chinese company in 2017. People who say otherwise will eventually find out the hard way.
Slow memory still, it should be at least 2x of the previous generation, as the number is not the frequency of the memory itself, but its interface. Otherwise it doesn't make sense.
Just thinking about all of the por... I mean RAW video files that can be stored.
Maybe cameras will have user-accessible SSDs internally with a full-speed USB4 interface so you can use them as external storage, swap, whatever.
i dont know in US but in india lexar 1tb gen 3 ssds are so bad what to say....... i rater prefer adata, xpg or wd blue or even crucial not lexar
Hm, these Compact Flash Express sound interesting, especially if they are backwards compatible. Amazing speeds, these are even faster than portable SSDs or USB drives.
You mean CF Express being compatible with ancient Compact flash Cards? No. It's a completely different technology. It's named CF Express because the body supporting it is the CompactFlash Association. Old CF is (P)ATA based, CF Express is PCIE based; there is a dead CFast spec using SATA. All specs are not interchangeable. But if you mean CF Express PCIE4 on older CF Express PCIE3, yes, they are, just operating at PCIE3 speeds.
Rgb memory😂😂😂
Paul
Still has title of UA-cam’s sexiest tech streamer
What motherboards and CPUs can handle these?
IMCs are already struggling to keep up with DDR5 at 6400 with loose timings. Advertising them at 8400 is, at best, deceptive unless the timings are hilarious.
I guess the card-readers are at 10Gb's or worse at 5Gb's. So you cannot get the near the fulls speed of the CF cards. You need 20Gb's USB 3.2 2x2 or USB 4 at 40 Gb's.
Sad.
Ah yes, the famous "Wall of memories" of Lexar...
"Because here, in Lexar, we don't make products... we make memories"
Great video. As for mobile storage ; i have the SanDisk Extreme PRO microSDXC UHS-I Memory Card 1 TB + Adapter & RescuePRO Deluxe (for Smartphones, Action Cameras or Drones, A2, Class 10, V30, U3, 200 it's been a great option for my needs.
@Lexar - I prefer heatspreader designs that cover the corners of the PCB but still leave enough room to press the latch should removal be needed. Old design wins between the two IMHO.
Wondering when the 512GB NM memory card they announced in November is shipping to Europe and if there's a 1TB version available soon.
Wow. Can lexar make a case for the itibity ssd? Sounds perfect for travel.
ddr is a term usually used in ram so it may be a fake.
it probably is pcie ram or ram for the wlan card slot.
although at 1tb it is not too far of a stretch to be genuine because a couple years ago storage that small at 1tb was fairly unheard of now it is becoming more common.
I wish 1000 tb for 22x30.
any 2tb SD cards?
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Ooh yeah 😅
Cool !
Yay
wut 8400 cl40
that usb c portable ssd is good with iPhone 15 pro? any better option than this?
What is it you need on the iPhone, import videos ?
Does the Play have a DRAM cache?
The new RAM design is very nice!
I still love IDE HDD´s.... The speed! 🤪
u never used SCSI ?
@@lucasrem Oh yeah. I was just kiddin.
Lexar … hmmm looks like rebranded Team Group. Team group is way better value and hardly anyone mentions them. They have outstanding memory products and the best prices and also the quality is very good to best because it’s made in Taiwan, not China mainland junk.
Can you please post your extensive research on how products from Taiwan are of superior quality to those from China?
Team Group's "support" and "warranty" are hilarious. Spend 15 seconds looking at how they handle claims and get back to us.
Loving the vids P and Team. Safe travels!