Cheung Tin Chi during the majority of the movie did not use Wing Chun, due to his trauma from his fight with Ip Man from Ip Man 3. It was when during this fight, where he was intially overwhelmed by Dave that he regains confidence in his Wing Chun and applies his real techniques. This is why you can notice the shift in his stances and how he applies his blows towards the end of the fight.
I don't think he regained his confidence, he just knew that it was his only chance because he was fighting force vs force whereas Wing Chun does not and it also teaches striking vital areas and pressure points as a part of the system. He defeated Bautista with the same move Ip Man beat him with. Also major props to the credits scene where Fung uses Wing Chun to beat his bully.
He was beaten badly and the director didn’t even think twice about this scene. Irony is that guy despite being beaten badly has not lost single drop of blood. And he has not taken at least two minutes for recovery. Poor action choreography
I love how Chung changes his strategy mid fight. In the beginning he was aiming for Batista's chest which considering the weight difference wasn't doing anything. Mid fight when he gets back up he decides to go for weak spots like the throat and liver because it's the only way he can do any damage
And to a certain extent, was fighting 'dirty'. Which is what you need to do when outmuscled like that. Any hard attack against the front of the throat is absolutely a statement that you are willing to kill that person, because with the amount of pressure it takes to collapse the trachea is not all that great. Ignoring the wire-fu parts of the fight, in the real world if Batista had simply happened to be starting to step or lean forward for an attack at the moment that throat strike landed, it wouldn't have been a few seconds of trying to recover, it would have been him slowly collpasing to the ground, unable to breathe. Note: Thanks to filmography, I am willing to bet that the 'throat strike' wasn't actually all that close to hitting, it's way to dangerous. Eyes, throat, groin. If you are out muscled, those are the best weak points. Knees are second best, then other joints as available and based on your skill (If I got lucky, I might be able to disjoint an elbow of someone stronger but not particularly skilled. That move he used on the thumb? Way too precise and fast for anyone not trained). Mind, I'm not remotely a skilled fighter, and lost most of my childhood fights. Anyone of reasonable health and awareness of weak points has a chance to pull off some basic joint damage if they are lucky and the opponent is not very skilled.
@@vapeurdepisse Nah, that throat job was series damage. And the only reason they aren't both lacerated to hell is stunt fights use sugar glass. Looking at just that last kick launching him out the door I would expect shards of glass and lots of cuts on Batista's face. And possibly a few long shallow cuts on Chung, though going through feet first reduces that risk (When I was a kid, I was doing stupid kid stunts and managed to jump kick my way through a glass window. Was barely scratched thankfully, but that was luck, not skill)
No you missed the whole point. Since he lost to Ip Man, Tin-Chi quit Wing Chun but in reality Wing Chun was the only chance he had to defeat Bats' massive size, strength and power advantages because it teaches lethal strikes and constant pressure while deflecting, not using force vs force, which is what he was trying. And if you notice, he actually used the same move that Ip Man did against him, a short hard shot between the ribs to a pressure point under his armpit. So technically it was a body shot that made him realize he was done for. That was the whole point, he was getting tossed around while trying fancy fu before "Wing Chun, Chung Tin-Chi" in the bong sao/woo sao pose.
Ip Man was Grandmaster Wing Chung and Master of Bruce Lee. !!! This story line base actually Ip man's life .. Well of course not everything but the Ip man movies base on. !! Legend
Exaggerated, but it would've been close especially since dude really doesn't have any power in his moves. It's more accurate if he got destroyed harder after just the first two punch tbh lol. It's not like he's doing Muay Thai where it's a powerful marital art that require a strong body, this is Chinese martial arts with all the fake qi and flying ropes. Dude looks like he can fall over if a barbell fell on him.
@@triavang7946 Lmao if your perception of martial arts is just fake qi and flying ropes, you clearly have only seen either wuxia shows or those fake old man master you see in youtube videos.
Dave Batista’s movement is a lot more fluid and beautiful to watch than Mike Tyson’s in his Ip man role. I think wrestlers have a lot of practice with fake punches and therefore are easily adaptable to cinematic fighting than hardcore fighters.
Yes it is. But Mike' profession is to knock out rival. So he didnt need any fancy moves ever. Just direct brutal punches. In his prime any regular person would have died or seriously injured with his just one punch. So its understandable.
Yes.. But mike tyson punch looks really better at showing how a boxer fight and seems he punch harder but its wonderfull how ipman manage to block it in the right spot to stop the movement
@@valent9260 respect your views 👍 but, I felt that Tyson was holding his punches back and going slow at Donnie yen because he was afraid he will break Donnie’s jaw even if a single swing lands on the chin. Whereas if you see the fight sequences of Dwayne Johnson, Dave Batista and John Cena, they are way more confident and fluid in fight sequences because they are so used to landing fake punches in the pro wrestling. Combined with their amazing flexibility, the action looks awesome on screen. Pro wrestlers are also very quickly adapting to acting than professional fighters. I wonder if Conor mcgregor can ever rein himself down and act in a movie because it’d be awesome for such a man to act as a villain in peaky blinders or similar shows.
Good fantasy fight, but in reality, after he got thrown against the bar, his spine would have taken damage, then more when he was thrown into the bottles. Lastly, his strength and body would NOT hold up against the sheer strength of Bautista's blows
Exactly. The #1 rule to remember in fighting is, always guard your neck and spine. Z wouldn't have had the strength to get back up properly from the table section after he has suffered 2 back damage. Never fight above your weight class. Unless you intend to kill the guy swiftly using pressure points/ranged weapons.
@@thevegastan Or if you're using any kind of weapon other than a gun or a massive kick to the nuts and be very quick with it and that way you don't have to kill him. Lol.
On the contrary, he did have the history to give up in WWE. Dave Batista did have history to utter the word I quit in that match and lost. He lost to Cena on the I Quit match. In this movie, Dave Batista attempted to run away which meant he ran away scared after the beating. It is John Cena that don't give up. Batista does give up once he takes so many beatings.
I'd love to see Batista in more fight scenes like this. He did really well (if that wasn't a stunt double). I rarely see big burly guys move gracefully in action movies, they're always stiff and all they do is body slam people and it's quite boring.
You see it again for a quick minute in a Zach Snyder movie of all places. Army of the Dead, when his gf gets killed he hulks out for a second. All his moves in that short scene were very fluid, more than you ever see through his stint in Marvel films.
this is why I prefer the older Jackie chan movies like meals on wheels. Jackie Chan always improvises and even when he ups his game he still gets hit and injured and has to dig deep and sometimes he is shown to get lucky with some of his hits. For me the best depiction of a good fight scene is in "the Raid" When that guy takes on two guys and all of them end up bloody and injured
@@WarmPillow-hs6kj I know that's not Jackie Chan I was comparing this fight scene to Jackie Chan's fight scenes. Modern Chinese Kung Fu films have lead characters that literally activate God mode and never get hit or injured and take on opponents that would easily beat them in a real fight. I know it's acting but it's been done better in older films. Films like the raid, warrior king and chocolate are more recent films that have depicted fight scenes far better and none of those films are Chinese
@@6-dpegasus425 yes he does and they're hits that would have nearly killed him in real life and he gets straight back up as if the hits had no effect. If he had beaten his opponent by outsmarting him because he couldn't match his strength then that would have been a better fight. Instead he activated God mode and was practically invincible after taking a beating that would have left him either in a hospital bed or dead
Many comments said Max Zhang (former Wushu athlete) should be defeated within 36 seconds in the real fight. Oh yes, you forgot that this is a movie right? A movie to show how awesome both actors fight each other. A movie to entertain the audience. I like both actors, and to me, they did their job very well in this movie.
The thing is, previous fights like that are more believable because the Wushu fighter dodges most of the fatal blows. If Donnie Yen had been hit by Mike Tyson full force, it would have been over.
@@johnbuscher i think it's because donny yen's (I'm talking about the movie not irl) bones are tough. I have a friend who's in his 20s, he's small but damn he's tough. He's not that buff, he's somewhat skinny, to really visualise his body just imagine him as rodtang a ufc fighter. If I hit him a 2 inch thick stick it'll surely break. Anyway it's not all about being big, it's about refining your bones and muscles plus with stamina and great eye. Although i would agree that being bigger have a huge advantage of defense
@magnime Very true. Many years ago me and a buddy of mine that weighed over 300 pounds with me being like 150 at the time were just messing around and i was acting like i was gonna whoop his ass,well i got too close and he pulled me in with 1 hand and bear hugged me and then put me in a rear naked choke,yeah i was done. There wasn't a damn thing i could do with him being that big and he almost made me black out until i finally said,aight aight man I'm done. Lol. Now i could've beat him had we been in an actual fight with weapons or being really fast with some force to the nuts but if you get too close to someone that size when you're little then it's a wrap and you just stand no chance straight up 1 on 1 without any weapons for it's never gonna happen.
Бросок то такое ) сила и масса решает в тесном контакте ) самый тесный контакт это непосредственно контакт) если батитса возмет в болевой) то там гг, захват руки и все перелом, но фильм то не предусматривает в удара СИЛА МАССА и СКОРОСТЬ, У батисты и СИЛЛА и МАССА у азиата только скорость в + так что в реальном бою может у азиата и есть шансы но они прзрачные
It has to be said... I've seen a lot of big-guy fights in kung-fu movies. Nathan Jones. Billy Chow. But Dave here is the first guy I've seen who's as fast as he is big!
В реальном спорте даже 15 килограмм решают .А тут разница в 3 раза )) Что про Ип Мана что подобные фильмецы, это просто сказки ( причем очень вредные ) .
@@Nereal_Dvigatel по крайней мере то, что делал Брюс Ли - реально, посмотри на кавказца в Ютубе, он "почти" дошёл до уровня Брюса, + у Брюса не плохая генетика была
На самом деле бой закончился на 36 секунде - после удара о стойку у мастера (на фоне перелома позвоночника и разрыва внутренних органов) возник спинальный шок и мозг в агональных конвульсиях дорисовал продолжение...
@@Mikasta007 начало боя реалистичное. А на 1:00 он уже лежит в коме, порезанный осколками бутылок и продолжение боя идёт в его воображении...это многое объяснило бы
I guess everyone’s a master at fighting now with all the “It’s not realistic” comments. YES. We get it. Movies in general don’t have realistic things even if they’re grounded anyway. They’re entertainment. Which is why fight scenes have to have tension and and intensity or a form of unrealistic moment. Sure. Showing him get knocked out with one punch would be realistic. But the movie would end in an instant. In fact, ALL action movies, Eastern or Western, would end in an instant. Fight/action scenes have storytelling of their own. It’s an art form of its own. They have rhythm, pacing, artistic style, ect. This is one of those many forms. And no shade, but it’s still better than some of the Hollywood fight scenes with all the shaky cam and zoomed in fast blurry cuts where you can barely see anything tbh (although I’m glad they’re taking notes on how to make better fight scenes).
Nothing like remembering stuff said by a loved one and that one time you were practicing against a stationary object to instantly get a power-up and sudden be able to annihilate someone twice your height and 3 times your weight.
Был за Батисту. Сказочный китаец побеждает такого профессионального амбала. После удара о барную стойку, можно спокойно пить виски. Ну вот как он встал? (Риторический) Усы Дэйву идут.
Max Zhang at 2nd phase be like: Attack boost: +100% Base Attack: +200 Crit Damage: +250% Crit Rate: 100% Dexterity: +200 HP Boost: +200 Defense: +18,000 Def Buff: 2.5 per second Speed: 800 Agility: 520 Added Skills: Acrobatics, Instincts Plus
В гонконгском боевике 70-х, Батисту победил бы силой бесконтактного боя, крошечный, сухонький старичок, жутко просветлённый благодаря долгому изучению кунг-фу)
@Vladislav Didenko да, помню один такой супер старичок вышел против бойца мма, итог плачевный) и таких примеров много, их уже разоблачили все кому не лень, странно что есть люди которые все еще верят
@@ЛисенкоАндрій-щ9в да фильмы то для идиотов ( просто в титрах забывают сноску делать " для просмотра лицам дошкольного возраста и серьезными задержками в развитии)
@Vladislav Didenko Есть на самом деле мощные. Смотрел передачу Мир наизнанку кажется, там один старик бил о стену кулаком, там вся стена ходуном ходила и штукатурка сыпалась. Серьёзно.
50 на 50 і то це спорний момент а точніше постановщики вирішили що він не реально мошний боец і готовий до такого . Це жесть і наглість в фільмі таке показувати сам батіста мав би серйозну травму якби йому його близнюк так кинув як цього , а за того чахлика то взагалі я мовчу травма могла бути фатальна . В реальності такого не буває два три взмаха і фінал а тут ... співвідношення якесь дивне як два термінатора а не слон і муха , або як слон і пес тупо візуальний обман .
That knee in the chest was not with muay boran power but it is likely that it gave a strike to batista a man killed an elephant with a knee in the chest there was created the bokator of Cambodia
Если бы дракс разрушитель кинул таноса в барную стойку, то железному человеку не пришлось собой жертвовать. Танос это знал, поэтому и разрушил в финале особняк старка, там полюбэ была барная стойка...
Все же мы понимаем что , один удар этого здорового мужика даже в блок , делает трещины в костях, драка хорошая, просто мог бы обнять и не отпускать и все
Thailand have Tony jaa . American and china have so many name action like that and so many countries have artor action . But my country don't have any name in action movie ... But my country have history kungfu for centuries .vj
The music score in this fight scene is soooo damn epic 🤩 Slowly bulding up to the final strike, just awesome 3:32 I really like that in all Ip Man movies, in the final boss fights, they use this kind of epic music 😁 makes the already great choreographed final battles even more epic 👌
да... этот бой просто фантастика среди фантастики. Малыша в реале пару раз в больницу в тяжелом состоянии увезли, прежде чем он волшебным образом, наплевав на физику дал прикурить Батисте
Ну, как бы да... Но если главный герой(мелкий китаец) - шаолиньский монах, то уважаемый Батиста сразу бы умер после двух-трех ударов. Дело в том, что у монахов есть определенные виды тренировок, например, удар огромным бревном по промежности...
Нет кунг-фу очень хорошо помогает так от разных врагов, бандитов, но оно тоже разное, этот стиль винчун чисто показательный как спортивная гимнастика красивые движения и только, у брюса ли был другой стиль боевой и эффективный, просто нужно не забывать что кунг-фу не делает тебя суперменом да с ним ты выйдеш например в 70 процентах драк чем не изучая ни чего гдето в 40-50процентах победителем.
You're funny 🤣. This is obviously a movie, but all those kicks and punches were aimed very precisely at pressure points, Batista also didn't go down immediately, the damage eventually accumulated. Also being thrown around like that is actually pretty normal, it all depends on how you land and whether or not certain objects hurt you during the fall. If not most of the time you can just get up, since it seems painful but actually doesn't hurt that much, especially when you're in the heat of the moment and the adrenaline pushes you forward. Again it's still a movie. But it is amazing to see exactly deadly martial art techniques can be.
@@SensitiveSavage I like how you just underplayed throwing someone around and not getting hurt while you justified those light punches and kicks and tried your best to make me believe that they’re effective more than throwing someone around. 👏👏
@@muzzeina4987 No seriously. I wasn't trying, I've been in fights where I've been thrown around by a person twice my size, it's not a brag just experience. After the dust settled in a matter of speaking, I could barely remember the throws, because the adrenaline was keeping me going and I didn't land awkwardly (Hurts like hell afterwards though) Also those punches only seem light, because Batista's body is big and the muscles are tight. Take the solar plexus for example it's a basic weak point, training your abs might allow you to take one or two punches there, and keep going, however no matter how light, if enough connect you're going to go down. In boxing you also have those that have light punches, but are able to dodge or block and land more effective hits due to their speed, and eventually even knocking the opponent out.
@@SensitiveSavage it olso depends on the type of material the graund is made of if concrete you die but if is something like wood you can survive and keep getting up a couple of times
Будущи школьником, я обожал смотреть на подобные бои, где мелкий китаец побеждал какого-нибудь здорового мужика. Мне казалось это чем-то эпичным, крутым и реалистичным. Забавно. Сейчас, когда мне 33 года, я просто напросто испытываю испанский стыд и смех при виде очереднего такого боя китайца и мужика под 2 метра, где первый разваливает лица похлеще Бэтмена. В реальности от этого малыша из Китая с его вымышленным стилем и псевдо-кунг-фу, которое не помогает, ничего бы не осталось от встречи с Дэйвом. Что самое забавное, так это, что Дэйв Баттиста всё правильно сказал в этом фрагменте("Вы, китайцы, слишком высокого мнения о себе").
This was a damn good fight. I love you can see the spirit of the original yet man transition into him in order to win. Even though he and both Yep our practitioners of Wing Chong they are two of the best even though Yep was number one. You can see he is incorporating the techniques used against him in order to defeat his opponent. Even though this is a movie it’s still admirable. I really got it at Myer David Bautista, he’s been in a lot of martial arts movies without getting much credit for it. The next one I actually wanna see him as a good guy instead of a dumb brute evildoer Henchman
дело не в силе а в скорости удара, взять боксера или бойца мма, они большой вес не поднимут, но бьют сильно. как пример Емельяненко с Кокляевым. у Кокляева силы раз в двадцать больше, а кулаки то не летят быстро.
@@АрманТулюканов Вин-чун это техника для улицы, против шпаны, в реальном бою все поединки ВИн-чун проиграл, 2-3 минуты они бегают, машут ручками ... потом ловят плюху и на полу ... ты хоть погугли )))) Ты так мал , что кино за реальность принял ))))
@@Дмитрий-б6ж8к реальные бои - это и есть бои улиц, где никто мораль и ваши законы ЮФЦ не соблюдает. Винчунь предполагает бой с наибыстрейшим выводом из строя противника, то что в фильмах у них бои затянуты на 10 минут, это снято для красоты. Винчунь должен начинаться с ударов по болевым точкам, а не поглаживаниях руками, вроде паха, глаз, коленей, выворачивание суставов, всё зависит от того, что в данный момент будет эффективнее и всегда уворот от удара или блокирование идет с ударом в болевую точку в этот же момент. То есть винчун - это техника, которая людей инвалидами оставляет, при правильном применении. Конечно винчун проигрывает в ваших типа "реальных" боях, где все правила запрещают использовать технику винчун на полную. Только вот в реальных боях правил нет и яйца хоть у трехсоткилограммового боксера не железные, как и колени, как и локти, как и глаза, как и кадык, и щуплый, но быстрый винчунист вполне может вырубить любого бывалого боксера любого веса.
@@konstantinsalo ну так где эти реальные бои ? С гопотой воевать - наверно это было тогда полезно изучать, но в сегодняшних реалиях Винчун до бокса даже не дотягивает, а если взять самбо или рукопашный ... где так же используют все части тела... Победа зависит только от качеств встретившихся пацанов )))) Идет 2022 год, а вы в Винчун верите и реальные бои.... где просто это происходит, в век, где полно оружия и никакой Винчун пулю не остановит
Many of the moves were so difficult to stage that I think the Chinese fighter must be real good. And, physical size and strength almost made it impossible for the little fellow to WIN. The smaller one has no choice but to resort to DEADLY tacs. Tough!
All moves can be staged. Dancers are the best for these types of movies. They are the most flexible and look the most real pulling off these staged moves.
Nice comedy! After becoming an MMA follower i realized that any form of Chinese martial art is just a form of traditional dance and not effective in real life combat.
Done different type of combat sports and have been one of you who mocked Wing Chun, until i met U.S army sergeant, who has shown me what Wing Chun really is, he had been trained by IP man's student. And yes that one inch punch definitely works and i was in the receiving end of it with protective gear on. Wing Chun is not about fancy moves that you see but finishing the fight in less than 10 seconds with a blow to vital points.
...потом китаец вышел, откусил пол- поезда и пуком расколол гору. "Потрясающий реализм!" - со слезами на глазах выдохнул режиссер - "сделаем запрос на историческое достояние нации" . "Уже сделали" - сказал другой плачущий китаец. Титры.
Не надо так отчаянно завидовать. Что китайцы могут снимать фильмы, где их малыши бьют больших дядек - результат их экономики. К ним и большие дядьки идут сниматься, и есть деньги на постановщиков трюков, и на работу камеры, и т.д. Молодцы.
@@leonsheer5551 последнее дело оправдывать плохой фильм ( или конкретную сцену) фразой "зато у них есть деньги". Есть. Молодцы. Только сняли нелепое Г, со всеми их деньгами.
@@simplythebest9263 А кто сказал, что это плохой фильм? У него в драках акцент на зрелищности, а не на реалистичности. Точно также в сказках Илья Муромец греческой шапкой укладывал по взводу врагов одним ударом. Но в моем детстве не было полоумных, которые на этом основании требовали бы запретить русские сказки.
@@leonsheer5551 пример не очень. Сказка она сказка и есть. Только вот даже в сказке Илья Муромец имеет тотальное превосходство в размерах, силе и вооружении над противниками. Причем полученное магическим образом. Здесь же герой живет в реальном мире и побеждает просто потому что. И зрелищности тут ни на грош. Кривляние одно.
Just the first part of the fight is realistic. In the second part Dave Bautista's punches inexplicably lose their wieght and strenght, he just moves his big arms around with no effect. Totally irrealistic.
i always love the power of a good martial artist whose fists, hands movements and body fighting skils are so strong, so flexible , so fast agile with fying rolling techniques , deadly kicking , twisting your nerves , punching techniques even if the opponent is a giant boxer , will be defeated knocked down in no time at all , bravo 👐👐👐 😁🤗👍👏✊💪
Здесь очень хорошо заметно превосходство массы. Батиста мог бы его задушить просто обняв. А как он его швырял? Как котёнка. В реале у китайца не было бы шансов против такой туши.
S Tier random that my video got suggested on a clip of an IP Man movie. I forgot this movie existed. Now I gotta watch the whole thing! Top 15 Movie Series Ever?
Cheung Tin Chi during the majority of the movie did not use Wing Chun, due to his trauma from his fight with Ip Man from Ip Man 3. It was when during this fight, where he was intially overwhelmed by Dave that he regains confidence in his Wing Chun and applies his real techniques. This is why you can notice the shift in his stances and how he applies his blows towards the end of the fight.
what was he using before?
I don't think he regained his confidence, he just knew that it was his only chance because he was fighting force vs force whereas Wing Chun does not and it also teaches striking vital areas and pressure points as a part of the system. He defeated Bautista with the same move Ip Man beat him with. Also major props to the credits scene where Fung uses Wing Chun to beat his bully.
@@asmokingp3005 Wushu
@@hoaxialcableyou’re wrong, the guy was right, end of debate.
@@JustSendMeLocation what was I wrong about exactly guy? Specifics would be cool.
Bruh Batista destroyed this guy at least 5 times and he got up like it was Mortal Kombat irl
Power of Chinese Kung Fu or whatever. 😂
because he is the Pw0tag0niSt. fkn unreal
Chinese men Chinese 😂😂
@@dandandan1010 cus is a FUKING MOVIE lol
@@melodiasrojas8428 Stop saying cus man 🙄🙄🙄
😂 😂 😂 Bautista just throwing him around like ragdoll 😂😂😂
I think he is a better martial artist than IP man by far..
He was beaten badly and the director didn’t even think twice about this scene. Irony is that guy despite being beaten badly has not lost single drop of blood. And he has not taken at least two minutes for recovery. Poor action choreography
I love how Chung changes his strategy mid fight. In the beginning he was aiming for Batista's chest which considering the weight difference wasn't doing anything. Mid fight when he gets back up he decides to go for weak spots like the throat and liver because it's the only way he can do any damage
And he still didn't do any
Homie stated tenderizing his ribs 😂
And to a certain extent, was fighting 'dirty'. Which is what you need to do when outmuscled like that. Any hard attack against the front of the throat is absolutely a statement that you are willing to kill that person, because with the amount of pressure it takes to collapse the trachea is not all that great. Ignoring the wire-fu parts of the fight, in the real world if Batista had simply happened to be starting to step or lean forward for an attack at the moment that throat strike landed, it wouldn't have been a few seconds of trying to recover, it would have been him slowly collpasing to the ground, unable to breathe. Note: Thanks to filmography, I am willing to bet that the 'throat strike' wasn't actually all that close to hitting, it's way to dangerous.
Eyes, throat, groin. If you are out muscled, those are the best weak points. Knees are second best, then other joints as available and based on your skill (If I got lucky, I might be able to disjoint an elbow of someone stronger but not particularly skilled. That move he used on the thumb? Way too precise and fast for anyone not trained). Mind, I'm not remotely a skilled fighter, and lost most of my childhood fights. Anyone of reasonable health and awareness of weak points has a chance to pull off some basic joint damage if they are lucky and the opponent is not very skilled.
@@vapeurdepisse Nah, that throat job was series damage. And the only reason they aren't both lacerated to hell is stunt fights use sugar glass. Looking at just that last kick launching him out the door I would expect shards of glass and lots of cuts on Batista's face. And possibly a few long shallow cuts on Chung, though going through feet first reduces that risk (When I was a kid, I was doing stupid kid stunts and managed to jump kick my way through a glass window. Was barely scratched thankfully, but that was luck, not skill)
No you missed the whole point. Since he lost to Ip Man, Tin-Chi quit Wing Chun but in reality Wing Chun was the only chance he had to defeat Bats' massive size, strength and power advantages because it teaches lethal strikes and constant pressure while deflecting, not using force vs force, which is what he was trying. And if you notice, he actually used the same move that Ip Man did against him, a short hard shot between the ribs to a pressure point under his armpit. So technically it was a body shot that made him realize he was done for. That was the whole point, he was getting tossed around while trying fancy fu before "Wing Chun, Chung Tin-Chi" in the bong sao/woo sao pose.
Master Z been training with Ip Man by this point. You can tell by those elbow counters to big man's punches.
nope, that elbow blocks are in his wing Chun we just didn't get to see him use it against IP man as IP man isn't a hard puncher.
Ip Man was Grandmaster Wing Chung and Master of Bruce Lee. !!! This story line base actually Ip man's life .. Well of course not everything but the Ip man movies base on. !! Legend
@@user-sangsangd1vIp man was just a frail old uncle in real life. He'd get laid out
Through out the entire fight, I was like, "come on! Give him Batista Bomb! " 😅
I take it that's a wrestling move he does but never heard of it. But,I'm also not a wrestling fan whatsoever and don't watch that junk!
Any movie with batista needs a batista bomb lol
He almost gave him one, but chinese guy locked his feet and used the momentum to throw Batista to the ground
he did give him a powerbomb to kill the other guy earlier in the film lmfao
hahaha
the first half was a pretty accurate depiction of what a difference weight class makes in fighting
Not really.
More or less, yes
Exaggerated, but it would've been close especially since dude really doesn't have any power in his moves. It's more accurate if he got destroyed harder after just the first two punch tbh lol.
It's not like he's doing Muay Thai where it's a powerful marital art that require a strong body, this is Chinese martial arts with all the fake qi and flying ropes.
Dude looks like he can fall over if a barbell fell on him.
I love how Bautista barely moved when he got a flying knee going full speed at him
@@triavang7946 Lmao if your perception of martial arts is just fake qi and flying ropes, you clearly have only seen either wuxia shows or those fake old man master you see in youtube videos.
Dave Batista’s movement is a lot more fluid and beautiful to watch than Mike Tyson’s in his Ip man role. I think wrestlers have a lot of practice with fake punches and therefore are easily adaptable to cinematic fighting than hardcore fighters.
Fluid and Beautiful versus Snappy and Realistic.
Pick one.
One is a wrestler; the other a boxer.
Yes it is. But Mike' profession is to knock out rival. So he didnt need any fancy moves ever. Just direct brutal punches. In his prime any regular person would have died or seriously injured with his just one punch. So its understandable.
Yes.. But mike tyson punch looks really better at showing how a boxer fight and seems he punch harder but its wonderfull how ipman manage to block it in the right spot to stop the movement
@@valent9260 respect your views 👍 but, I felt that Tyson was holding his punches back and going slow at Donnie yen because he was afraid he will break Donnie’s jaw even if a single swing lands on the chin.
Whereas if you see the fight sequences of Dwayne Johnson, Dave Batista and John Cena, they are way more confident and fluid in fight sequences because they are so used to landing fake punches in the pro wrestling. Combined with their amazing flexibility, the action looks awesome on screen. Pro wrestlers are also very quickly adapting to acting than professional fighters.
I wonder if Conor mcgregor can ever rein himself down and act in a movie because it’d be awesome for such a man to act as a villain in peaky blinders or similar shows.
I love how Ip Man's theme played when he started using Wing Chun.
Johnny Depp was amazing in this movie
Asian Johnny Depp bruh
Yuan-hi dep
Good fantasy fight, but in reality, after he got thrown against the bar, his spine would have taken damage, then more when he was thrown into the bottles.
Lastly, his strength and body would NOT hold up against the sheer strength of Bautista's blows
Exactly. The #1 rule to remember in fighting is, always guard your neck and spine. Z wouldn't have had the strength to get back up properly from the table section after he has suffered 2 back damage.
Never fight above your weight class. Unless you intend to kill the guy swiftly using pressure points/ranged weapons.
This is not reality if you somehow forget
This fiksi bro , u nead real fight
Go mma
Stupid comment
Doesn't matter how big you are if your opponent has magical powers and a spine made of steel, apparently.
@@thevegastan Or if you're using any kind of weapon other than a gun or a massive kick to the nuts and be very quick with it and that way you don't have to kill him. Lol.
Batista did a good job replicating Mike Tyson in the previous movie 👍🏿
He out performed even the winchun guy. How did he even survive those punches and kicks from Batista
@@splendid9529 it's just a movie dude chill
It’s the choreographer
@@Cats4Trump yea.. if it was real he would have had internal bleedings cos the beast struck really hard
I will not be eating in that restaurant with all that broken furniture
Let's all be real.
At 1:43 everything is a fever dream. He's actually dying on the floor the entire time. It's all in his head.
Hahahahahahaha
with Dave Batista? yes this is canon
Zhang is hallucinating indeed
00:34 bruh
He would die even at 0:35 early seconds lol
Dave Bautista is such a beast he fights like a Mortal Kombar fighter and never gives up. Amazing fight scene 🔥👑❤️🤙👏👊💪
On the contrary, he did have the history to give up in WWE. Dave Batista did have history to utter the word I quit in that match and lost. He lost to Cena on the I Quit match. In this movie, Dave Batista attempted to run away which meant he ran away scared after the beating. It is John Cena that don't give up. Batista does give up once he takes so many beatings.
I'd love to see Batista in more fight scenes like this. He did really well (if that wasn't a stunt double). I rarely see big burly guys move gracefully in action movies, they're always stiff and all they do is body slam people and it's quite boring.
You see it again for a quick minute in a Zach Snyder movie of all places. Army of the Dead, when his gf gets killed he hulks out for a second. All his moves in that short scene were very fluid, more than you ever see through his stint in Marvel films.
Yeah it's unrealistic cuz not every big buff dude moves robotic like that.
this is why I prefer the older Jackie chan movies like meals on wheels. Jackie Chan always improvises and even when he ups his game he still gets hit and injured and has to dig deep and sometimes he is shown to get lucky with some of his hits. For me the best depiction of a good fight scene is in "the Raid" When that guy takes on two guys and all of them end up bloody and injured
This isn’t Jackie Chan…
@@WarmPillow-hs6kj I know that's not Jackie Chan I was comparing this fight scene to Jackie Chan's fight scenes. Modern Chinese Kung Fu films have lead characters that literally activate God mode and never get hit or injured and take on opponents that would easily beat them in a real fight. I know it's acting but it's been done better in older films. Films like the raid, warrior king and chocolate are more recent films that have depicted fight scenes far better and none of those films are Chinese
@@garrynewby1442 Well, Jackie Chan's opponents were at least around his weight so it looked barely possible...
@@garrynewby1442in this fight scene he still takes hits
@@6-dpegasus425 yes he does and they're hits that would have nearly killed him in real life and he gets straight back up as if the hits had no effect.
If he had beaten his opponent by outsmarting him because he couldn't match his strength then that would have been a better fight. Instead he activated God mode and was practically invincible after taking a beating that would have left him either in a hospital bed or dead
Many comments said Max Zhang (former Wushu athlete) should be defeated within 36 seconds in the real fight. Oh yes, you forgot that this is a movie right? A movie to show how awesome both actors fight each other. A movie to entertain the audience. I like both actors, and to me, they did their job very well in this movie.
China man ripped off tony jaas moves straight from protector
The thing is, previous fights like that are more believable because the Wushu fighter dodges most of the fatal blows. If Donnie Yen had been hit by Mike Tyson full force, it would have been over.
still idiotic and ridiculous
@@johnbuscher i think it's because donny yen's (I'm talking about the movie not irl) bones are tough. I have a friend who's in his 20s, he's small but damn he's tough. He's not that buff, he's somewhat skinny, to really visualise his body just imagine him as rodtang a ufc fighter. If I hit him a 2 inch thick stick it'll surely break.
Anyway it's not all about being big, it's about refining your bones and muscles plus with stamina and great eye. Although i would agree that being bigger have a huge advantage of defense
@magnime Very true. Many years ago me and a buddy of mine that weighed over 300 pounds with me being like 150 at the time were just messing around and i was acting like i was gonna whoop his ass,well i got too close and he pulled me in with 1 hand and bear hugged me and then put me in a rear naked choke,yeah i was done. There wasn't a damn thing i could do with him being that big and he almost made me black out until i finally said,aight aight man I'm done. Lol. Now i could've beat him had we been in an actual fight with weapons or being really fast with some force to the nuts but if you get too close to someone that size when you're little then it's a wrap and you just stand no chance straight up 1 on 1 without any weapons for it's never gonna happen.
I love Batista simple acting instead of rocks over acting and over show-off
Wing Chun is these movies is basically Unbeatable Magic
These movies are commie propaganda
Too bad it's not effective in real life! 😂😂
@@tjmasterbarber2664eres maestro de artes marciales??
i like how Dave tried to hit the batista bomb at 4:35. such a cool cameo to his character in the wwe
Первый бросок о стойку был бы завершением фильма
100%
Бросок то такое ) сила и масса решает в тесном контакте ) самый тесный контакт это непосредственно контакт) если батитса возмет в болевой) то там гг, захват руки и все перелом, но фильм то не предусматривает в удара СИЛА МАССА и СКОРОСТЬ, У батисты и СИЛЛА и МАССА у азиата только скорость в + так что в реальном бою может у азиата и есть шансы но они прзрачные
Ещё и подождал пока тот отдышится.
Мастер тай чи дерётся внутренней энергией Чи и сознанием, а не руками и ногами
Китайци умеют качать внутрипозвоночные мишци, ты что не знал?
This dude deserves a sequel
He'll probably get one
4:34 Not gonna lie, I ACTUALLY thought it was over lol.
POWERBOMB FROM WWE
then the movie ends
What weight more dave batista or feather?
@@bezero2005actually he was using the gravity and the momentum to flip him over
He obviously couldn't lift a giant lmao
The choreography on this fight was amazing, the music goes so well with it too.
It has to be said... I've seen a lot of big-guy fights in kung-fu movies. Nathan Jones. Billy Chow. But Dave here is the first guy I've seen who's as fast as he is big!
Батисту в китае побеждают все кому не лень)
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👍👍👍👍👍👍
он наверное получает деньги за свои поражения)
🤣🤣 if Batista had hair and was wearing white tights with a red cape I'd swear he was Omniman. That mustache instantly gave me that thought 😆
Делай это упражнение три раза в день, спина болеть не будет
😂😂😂😂Супер я как-раз искал такое упражнение, ты о вправлении спины о барную стойку надеюсь!
What the name of this movie ???
@@thongsoaika3232 Master Z: Ip Man Legacy
спина просто, не будет
@@Тимур-х5к8щ Rip Ukraine . 🤧 . Event I love soviet union. CCCP 🇻🇳
The moment he says wing chun... goosebumps 🔥
A beautiful masterpiece.
Больше всего улыбнуло, когда он перекинул Батисту.... мне кажется в реале он бы просто повис на нем, не сдвинув и с места...
Ахахах
А под фильмом забыли добавить, пострадала мебель на круглую сумму, слабонервным не смотреть.
В реальном спорте даже 15 килограмм решают .А тут разница в 3 раза )) Что про Ип Мана что подобные фильмецы, это просто сказки ( причем очень вредные ) .
@@Vector-Game-Studio люди хотят жить в иллюзии превосходства вин чуней и подобного, что это переросло и на Брюс Ли тоже, обрастая мифами
@@Nereal_Dvigatel по крайней мере то, что делал Брюс Ли - реально, посмотри на кавказца в Ютубе, он "почти" дошёл до уровня Брюса, + у Брюса не плохая генетика была
На самом деле бой закончился на 36 секунде - после удара о стойку у мастера (на фоне перелома позвоночника и разрыва внутренних органов) возник спинальный шок и мозг в агональных конвульсиях дорисовал продолжение...
вот именно. хули он на него обиделся и смотрит)) минус позвоночник и все))
😂😂😂👍
Ну я более оптимистичен, на адреналине он ещё мог что-то да делать, но на 1:00 он уже не встал бы.
@@Mikasta007 начало боя реалистичное. А на 1:00 он уже лежит в коме, порезанный осколками бутылок и продолжение боя идёт в его воображении...это многое объяснило бы
ага, как в Потрошители (Repo Men)
На самом деле Чунг-Тин чи при помощи Вин-Чунь попал бы в реанимацию😬
..... или в морг.
Причем после первого же удара. Даже пинка под зад бы хватило китайцу.
В морг
На самом деле в случае конфликта два актера пошли бы в суд разбираться там
@@ДмитрийСорокин-ю5э в продажний суд!!!
Wow, to think Chung Tin Chi could fight someone as large as Dave, that's impressive.😮
He could've finished him off so much quicker had he rolled up his sleeves 😂😆🤣
Nah that applies only to ipman
"Отбивная котлета" побеждает Батисту...улыбнуло))
Мне одному интересно, как этому танцору удалось остаться сухим после того как на него разлилось дофига литров бухла?! 🤣🤣🤣 0:51
ну так бухло же на спирте, испарилось))
Это сухое вино.
Да да, это мощный киноляп, он должен был встать мокрым как после душа.
И в самом деле 😅
и трезвым
This one made me laugh 😂
Only in the movies.
I guess everyone’s a master at fighting now with all the “It’s not realistic” comments. YES. We get it. Movies in general don’t have realistic things even if they’re grounded anyway. They’re entertainment. Which is why fight scenes have to have tension and and intensity or a form of unrealistic moment. Sure. Showing him get knocked out with one punch would be realistic. But the movie would end in an instant. In fact, ALL action movies, Eastern or Western, would end in an instant. Fight/action scenes have storytelling of their own. It’s an art form of its own. They have rhythm, pacing, artistic style, ect. This is one of those many forms. And no shade, but it’s still better than some of the Hollywood fight scenes with all the shaky cam and zoomed in fast blurry cuts where you can barely see anything tbh (although I’m glad they’re taking notes on how to make better fight scenes).
It was a lot more interesting when the big guy was winning.
PS - I love when they incorporate a wrestler's finishing move into a scene.
I can't be the only one who wanted dave to win ,right?😅👀
Yes sweet pea.
Im relieved! :D
на 36 секунде болевой шок от перелома позвоночника,остальной бой Чунг Тин-чи довоевал а загробном мире
Лол мужик весит в х3 раза больше. А он его ногами за уши перевернул)
Wawww se jeant fantastic goode filme 👍👍👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏💪💪💪💪💪💪💪
Ppl in the comment section don’t realise how talented Max Zhang really is
Только увидел кучу бутылок за стойкой, сразу понял, туда кто-то полетит! 😄 Дедукция! 😉
Чеховское ружьё
По сценарию вин чун мастер альтер-эго бэтмана.....поэтому до готема он не долетел...... а вот в бар с бутылками по большому довольствию)))
Nothing like remembering stuff said by a loved one and that one time you were practicing against a stationary object to instantly get a power-up and sudden be able to annihilate someone twice your height and 3 times your weight.
I know there right mate?!!! As the joker says,hee hee ha haa ha hee he.
I can send you the secret potion! Just send me $100 and you too can power up insanely.
Был за Батисту. Сказочный китаец побеждает такого профессионального амбала.
После удара о барную стойку, можно спокойно пить виски. Ну вот как он встал? (Риторический)
Усы Дэйву идут.
батиста сносно смотрелся даже в реальном ММА. Потому тут бы просто покалечил китайца
Лайк за усы!👍😉
Что за фильм?
Ну это же фильм щас бы придираться
Bro had ah "remember your training" moment and got up on beat cho ass mode..I lost it when fam got kicked and tried to run 😆 🤣😂😭
Max Zhang at 2nd phase be like:
Attack boost: +100%
Base Attack: +200
Crit Damage: +250%
Crit Rate: 100%
Dexterity: +200
HP Boost: +200
Defense: +18,000
Def Buff: 2.5 per second
Speed: 800
Agility: 520
Added Skills: Acrobatics, Instincts Plus
В гонконгском боевике 70-х, Батисту победил бы силой бесконтактного боя, крошечный, сухонький старичок, жутко просветлённый благодаря долгому изучению кунг-фу)
"безконтактный" бой чушь собачья, уже разоблачили таких "мастеров"...
@@михаилсиляков-л2р У тебя как с чувством юмора бро?
@Vladislav Didenko да, помню один такой супер старичок вышел против бойца мма, итог плачевный) и таких примеров много, их уже разоблачили все кому не лень, странно что есть люди которые все еще верят
@@ЛисенкоАндрій-щ9в да фильмы то для идиотов ( просто в титрах забывают сноску делать " для просмотра лицам дошкольного возраста и серьезными задержками в развитии)
@Vladislav Didenko Есть на самом деле мощные. Смотрел передачу Мир наизнанку кажется, там один старик бил о стену кулаком, там вся стена ходуном ходила и штукатурка сыпалась. Серьёзно.
После такого удара позвоночником о стойку бара на 0.36 минуте, он бы уже не смог бы даже подняться.Посмеялся от души, конечно.
50 на 50 і то це спорний момент а точніше постановщики вирішили що він не реально мошний боец і готовий до такого . Це жесть і наглість в фільмі таке показувати сам батіста мав би серйозну травму якби йому його близнюк так кинув як цього , а за того чахлика то взагалі я мовчу травма могла бути фатальна . В реальності такого не буває два три взмаха і фінал а тут ... співвідношення якесь дивне як два термінатора а не слон і муха , або як слон і пес тупо візуальний обман .
Так на 36 секунде бой и заканчивается, а дальше этот Чунг отрубился, и все остальное ему приснилось)
@@Ordark88 Да не, это он уже в винчунском раю, где винчунисты постоянно выигрывают.
Так-то на 0:28 минуте бой должен был кончиться, т. к. удар двумя ногами в солнечное сплетение даже такой здоровяк врядли выдержит
That knee in the chest was not with muay boran power but it is likely that it gave a strike to batista a man killed an elephant with a knee in the chest there was created the bokator of Cambodia
Если бы дракс разрушитель кинул таноса в барную стойку, то железному человеку не пришлось собой жертвовать. Танос это знал, поэтому и разрушил в финале особняк старка, там полюбэ была барная стойка...
Орнул в голос 😂
These fight scenes are masterful, I want Shang Chi to fight Razorfist like this
The drop kick through window had me CRYYINGG🤣🤣🤣
That was bad, to be honest. It could have been done better.
How Dave keeps his shirts so neatly tucked in?
Все же мы понимаем что , один удар этого здорового мужика даже в блок , делает трещины в костях, драка хорошая, просто мог бы обнять и не отпускать и все
Thailand have Tony jaa . American and china have so many name action like that and so many countries have artor action . But my country don't have any name in action movie ... But my country have history kungfu for centuries .vj
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@@thongsoaika3232 И как сто лет истории может защитить человека худощавого телосложения от броска Батисты спиной о деревянную стойку?
Tony jaa beats everyone
А как же Брюс Ли ? Он же тоже не здоровый был.. но сила его удара была колоссальной.
Он бы умер от стыда в настоящем бою 😂👍🍷
The music score in this fight scene is soooo damn epic 🤩 Slowly bulding up to the final strike, just awesome 3:32 I really like that in all Ip Man movies, in the final boss fights, they use this kind of epic music 😁 makes the already great choreographed final battles even more epic 👌
1:04 I LAUGHED WHEN MAX ZHANG BANGED DAVE BAUTISTA'S HEAD 😂🤣🤣🤣😆😆🤣🤣😹😹🤭🤭😸
да... этот бой просто фантастика среди фантастики. Малыша в реале пару раз в больницу в тяжелом состоянии увезли, прежде чем он волшебным образом, наплевав на физику дал прикурить Батисте
Батиста 188 см.120 кг.а этот щенок якобы противник Дэйва явно ниже 175 и веса 80.
После удара позвоночника об барную стоику всё остальное сон под обезбаливающим.
Ну, как бы да... Но если главный герой(мелкий китаец) - шаолиньский монах, то уважаемый Батиста сразу бы умер после двух-трех ударов. Дело в том, что у монахов есть определенные виды тренировок, например, удар огромным бревном по промежности...
а финансисты способные оплатить большому парню участие в этом фильме так не считают.
как говорил Бетмен - Моя супер сила, деньги.
разучились снимать нормально. ну и самое главное для них сейчас это прическа гг..
Китайские басни, в реалиях всё это кунг-фу просто чепуха.
вин чун ху1 пин чун
Нет кунг-фу очень хорошо помогает так от разных врагов, бандитов, но оно тоже разное, этот стиль винчун чисто показательный как спортивная гимнастика красивые движения и только, у брюса ли был другой стиль боевой и эффективный, просто нужно не забывать что кунг-фу не делает тебя суперменом да с ним ты выйдеш например в 70 процентах драк чем не изучая ни чего гдето в 40-50процентах победителем.
против лома нет не какого приёма! а все приемы ерунда
@@nuricsuyungaliev3305 не бойся лома... бойся слова - один удар и все хреново
Throwing him around like a bag of tissue didn’t harm him but his very light weight kick and punches defeated batista?! 🤷♂️ Ok
You're funny 🤣. This is obviously a movie, but all those kicks and punches were aimed very precisely at pressure points, Batista also didn't go down immediately, the damage eventually accumulated. Also being thrown around like that is actually pretty normal, it all depends on how you land and whether or not certain objects hurt you during the fall. If not most of the time you can just get up, since it seems painful but actually doesn't hurt that much, especially when you're in the heat of the moment and the adrenaline pushes you forward. Again it's still a movie. But it is amazing to see exactly deadly martial art techniques can be.
@@SensitiveSavage WHOASKED
@@SensitiveSavage I like how you just underplayed throwing someone around and not getting hurt while you justified those light punches and kicks and tried your best to make me believe that they’re effective more than throwing someone around. 👏👏
@@muzzeina4987 No seriously. I wasn't trying, I've been in fights where I've been thrown around by a person twice my size, it's not a brag just experience. After the dust settled in a matter of speaking, I could barely remember the throws, because the adrenaline was keeping me going and I didn't land awkwardly (Hurts like hell afterwards though) Also those punches only seem light, because Batista's body is big and the muscles are tight. Take the solar plexus for example it's a basic weak point, training your abs might allow you to take one or two punches there, and keep going, however no matter how light, if enough connect you're going to go down. In boxing you also have those that have light punches, but are able to dodge or block and land more effective hits due to their speed, and eventually even knocking the opponent out.
@@SensitiveSavage it olso depends on the type of material the graund is made of if concrete you die but if is something like wood you can survive and keep getting up a couple of times
Будущи школьником, я обожал смотреть на подобные бои, где мелкий китаец побеждал какого-нибудь здорового мужика. Мне казалось это чем-то эпичным, крутым и реалистичным. Забавно. Сейчас, когда мне 33 года, я просто напросто испытываю испанский стыд и смех при виде очереднего такого боя китайца и мужика под 2 метра, где первый разваливает лица похлеще Бэтмена. В реальности от этого малыша из Китая с его вымышленным стилем и псевдо-кунг-фу, которое не помогает, ничего бы не осталось от встречи с Дэйвом. Что самое забавное, так это, что Дэйв Баттиста всё правильно сказал в этом фрагменте("Вы, китайцы, слишком высокого мнения о себе").
Batista fighting a serious fight and man didn't even rolled up his sleeves and tuck out his shirt during the whole fight 😂
Only ip man rolls his sleeves
*Roll; or say HADN'T even ROLLED
What suprise me is that Batista pulled off that f5 at 1:08
Фентези тоже сказка и кому-то нравится и этот фильм неплох.
Лишь в фильмах кунфу не победить а в UFC они получают только так😂
ну муай тай это типа кунг фу в мире юфс))
@@slavyan8171 тайский бокс и кунфу ни чего общего не имеют
Просто на данный момент нету таких мастеров как были в то время.
@@ytlenem8221 не стоит верить в сказки))
Ты дурак или как?????
I can’t believe no one has mentioned how well Dave Batista speaks Russian? His accent is perfect! Lol
This was a damn good fight. I love you can see the spirit of the original yet man transition into him in order to win. Even though he and both Yep our practitioners of Wing Chong they are two of the best even though Yep was number one. You can see he is incorporating the techniques used against him in order to defeat his opponent. Even though this is a movie it’s still admirable. I really got it at Myer David Bautista, he’s been in a lot of martial arts movies without getting much credit for it. The next one I actually wanna see him as a good guy instead of a dumb brute evildoer Henchman
Почему как только он вспоминает тренировку и семью противник начинает плохо драться??😀
Вероятно, противник забыл свои корни... ;)
Здоровый дядя , напоминает схватку Тайсона с Ип Маном
Всё это, конечно, смотрится красиво. Но в жизни, увы, обычно всё бывает совсем иначе. Как ни крути, а габариты в настоящей драке решают многое
посмотрите бои на голых кулаках, габаритные бойцы медленные, у них не удар а толчок.
@@прикольноесмешноемилоеприкольн попробуйте надрать задницу какому нибудь здоровяку
Либо один точный удар.
@@Ronin137Неужели, а силенок-то хватит?
дело не в силе а в скорости удара, взять боксера или бойца мма, они большой вес не поднимут, но бьют сильно. как пример Емельяненко с Кокляевым. у Кокляева силы раз в двадцать больше, а кулаки то не летят быстро.
I love the Fantasy element of the Fight. I rate this right up there with the girls that take on Bad Guys like this.
This is proof that size matters
Только в фильме можно победить такой техникой а так в реальном мире Батиста одним ударом убил бы этого клоуна
теории дурочков, в реальном мире Батиста бы лег в первую секунду боя.
I love russia girl ..
@@АрманТулюканов Вин-чун это техника для улицы, против шпаны, в реальном бою все поединки ВИн-чун проиграл, 2-3 минуты они бегают, машут ручками ... потом ловят плюху и на полу ... ты хоть погугли ))))
Ты так мал , что кино за реальность принял ))))
@@Дмитрий-б6ж8к реальные бои - это и есть бои улиц, где никто мораль и ваши законы ЮФЦ не соблюдает. Винчунь предполагает бой с наибыстрейшим выводом из строя противника, то что в фильмах у них бои затянуты на 10 минут, это снято для красоты. Винчунь должен начинаться с ударов по болевым точкам, а не поглаживаниях руками, вроде паха, глаз, коленей, выворачивание суставов, всё зависит от того, что в данный момент будет эффективнее и всегда уворот от удара или блокирование идет с ударом в болевую точку в этот же момент. То есть винчун - это техника, которая людей инвалидами оставляет, при правильном применении. Конечно винчун проигрывает в ваших типа "реальных" боях, где все правила запрещают использовать технику винчун на полную. Только вот в реальных боях правил нет и яйца хоть у трехсоткилограммового боксера не железные, как и колени, как и локти, как и глаза, как и кадык, и щуплый, но быстрый винчунист вполне может вырубить любого бывалого боксера любого веса.
@@konstantinsalo ну так где эти реальные бои ? С гопотой воевать - наверно это было тогда полезно изучать, но в сегодняшних реалиях Винчун до бокса даже не дотягивает, а если взять самбо или рукопашный ... где так же используют все части тела... Победа зависит только от качеств встретившихся пацанов ))))
Идет 2022 год, а вы в Винчун верите и реальные бои.... где просто это происходит, в век, где полно оружия и никакой Винчун пулю не остановит
в детстве я смотрел сериал о шаолиньских монахах и их стиле боя и верил в это, пришло время поколению следующих детей верить в такие чудеса
Проблема в том, что в это верят и взрослые. Люди до сих думают, что Брюс ли был бойцом.
Many of the moves were so difficult to stage that I think the Chinese fighter must be real good. And, physical size and strength almost made it impossible for the little fellow to WIN. The smaller one has no choice but to resort to DEADLY tacs.
Tough!
All moves can be staged. Dancers are the best for these types of movies. They are the most flexible and look the most real pulling off these staged moves.
Nice comedy!
After becoming an MMA follower i realized that any form of Chinese martial art is just a form of traditional dance and not effective in real life combat.
Done different type of combat sports and have been one of you who mocked Wing Chun, until i met U.S army sergeant, who has shown me what Wing Chun really is, he had been trained by IP man's student. And yes that one inch punch definitely works and i was in the receiving end of it with protective gear on. Wing Chun is not about fancy moves that you see but finishing the fight in less than 10 seconds with a blow to vital points.
Ip Man 4 plot huh? (also Frater's actor Chris Collins' story as well)
It's an aim of all martial arts,what's special?
...потом китаец вышел, откусил пол- поезда и пуком расколол гору. "Потрясающий реализм!" - со слезами на глазах выдохнул режиссер - "сделаем запрос на историческое достояние нации" . "Уже сделали" - сказал другой плачущий китаец. Титры.
Не надо так отчаянно завидовать. Что китайцы могут снимать фильмы, где их малыши бьют больших дядек - результат их экономики. К ним и большие дядьки идут сниматься, и есть деньги на постановщиков трюков, и на работу камеры, и т.д. Молодцы.
@@leonsheer5551 последнее дело оправдывать плохой фильм ( или конкретную сцену) фразой "зато у них есть деньги". Есть. Молодцы. Только сняли нелепое Г, со всеми их деньгами.
@@simplythebest9263 А кто сказал, что это плохой фильм? У него в драках акцент на зрелищности, а не на реалистичности. Точно также в сказках Илья Муромец греческой шапкой укладывал по взводу врагов одним ударом. Но в моем детстве не было полоумных, которые на этом основании требовали бы запретить русские сказки.
@@leonsheer5551 пример не очень. Сказка она сказка и есть. Только вот даже в сказке Илья Муромец имеет тотальное превосходство в размерах, силе и вооружении над противниками. Причем полученное магическим образом. Здесь же герой живет в реальном мире и побеждает просто потому что. И зрелищности тут ни на грош. Кривляние одно.
Только режиссер и сценарий спас азиатского танцора .
ужас какое дерьмо все это, мужик большой 4 раза уже попал по китайке таких удара что тот бы уже не пережил ни одного бы, а он будто резиновый.
Согласен
Дерьмантиновый...
Удары Батисты наверняка смертельны для мелкого
Bautista really is an All-Star actor. Love how well-traveled this guy is.
Вин чун подходит дони ену я так думаю потому что он шустрый кто сомной согласен он быстро находит слабые места
В реальной жизни Дэйв Батиста его просто порвал бы)он в прошлом профессиональный борец + масса
Батиста просто лёг бы на мелкого кетайца и всё, тот вылезти бы не смог 😀
What a joke. Batista would broken all their bones with one punch. Xd
Bro batista doesn't even know how to punch he won his only mma mach with ju jitsu so no punch
This fight should have only been 5sec. In reality
Спасибо!
Посмеялся знатно.
Why isn't the 2nd part there yet
Doni yen is still the best.👌
понятно что это просто кинцо, но всё равно, драка выглядит максимально глупо...
Максимально смешно ты хотел сказать)))
Just the first part of the fight is realistic.
In the second part Dave Bautista's punches inexplicably lose their wieght and strenght, he just moves his big arms around with no effect.
Totally irrealistic.
I think this fight is legit. Santa Claus and Snow white think so too.
i always love the power of a good martial artist whose fists, hands movements and body fighting skils are so strong, so flexible , so fast agile with fying rolling techniques , deadly kicking , twisting your nerves , punching techniques even if the opponent is a giant boxer , will be defeated knocked down in no time at all , bravo 👐👐👐 😁🤗👍👏✊💪
Здоровяк очень реалистично играет, очень достоверно передаёт боль от получаемых ударов..
большой опыт. 20лет рестлинга как никак
Согласен, он единственный актер который заставил меня почувствовать такую же боль, особенно в конце когда он за живот держался
Что это за мастер Вин Чун , который двадцать различных ударов ,включая дюймовые, нанес в печень и не пробил .🤣
Здесь очень хорошо заметно превосходство массы. Батиста мог бы его задушить просто обняв. А как он его швырял? Как котёнка. В реале у китайца не было бы шансов против такой туши.
Ну почему? А пистолет?))))
@@АлексейВласов-ю4э Ну это да. 9 грамм легко справится со 120 килограмм))
@@Alexandr_Savelyev одного 9 грамм маловато будет, нужно несколько, скажем 27 грамм
@@ДаниярАхметов-ь8е По 9 грамм на каждые 10 кг веса))
@@АлексейВласов-ю4э
Если этот пистолет есть. А вот 120кг и пара кувалд всегда с собой.
Чунг Тин-чи ни за что не победил бы, если бы на нём не было его боевого пиджака.
под которым броник-экзоскелет)))
S Tier random that my video got suggested on a clip of an IP Man movie. I forgot this movie existed. Now I gotta watch the whole thing! Top 15 Movie Series Ever?