Hello! I'll address a few things here. 1) You experienced some level of contamination. It is near-impossible to trace when it does happen, so I'd rather just move on and keep people happy (brake pads are nearly a sponge, so when something happens is almost impossible to extract that element). Email us again, reference this and we'll get you another set to try. I assume we emailed you our suggested rotor-reset process? Ours is a little different in that we suggest going pretty aggressive on the rotors (to bring back the factory crosshatch pattern that was, in most cases, machined into the surface when new. 2) I'm also really surprised you said you've heard of this from others. We've sold over 100,000 units so far, 'have about 500 dealers, and we rarely hear of this. BUT, the brake systems on our bikes are pretty volatile and even more so given where bikes can go, how fast, etc. We (all enthusiasts) are putting brakes to the limit way more than ever. 3) You mentioned your mechanic friend and his logic of "why wouldn't the bigger brands go after this". I certainly can't speak for them but I DO know how production works along with cost-breakdown, margins and the multi-step ladder of manufacturing, distribution, dealer network to the end user - what I'm saying is, those brands would have to set their MSRP too high for any consumer to bite. In our case, our compound costs us 3.5x over a traditional compound. That adds up and even more so when there are many more layers of distribution than we deal with (we do not use distributors for example, this helps us keep costs down, employee independent sales reps to sell our product to your local dealer, and keep our MSRP where it is). So there is a pretty deep explanation on several subjects; hope this helps.
Hey MTX, Thank you for the response, much appreciated. Like I said in the video, when they were working, your pads were the best. I absolutely loved them. Your communication has always been great. Hell, you responding to this video, I find amazing. The whole issue was that we could not sort out the braking problems with the MTX Gold Pads and to resolve the issues we just had to change pad brand/compounds and the issues never popped up again. I think if it was easier for me to access the MTX pads and swap them out for another set to try, I would have, but it was a little more complicated being in Canada with shipping and customs. If you would like to set something up off or on YT, just drop me an email at ridingthrulife@shaw.ca Thanks Todd
I would gladly buy these if you will replace them if(when) they squeal I have tried a few different pads, shimano metal were the best so far. When I lived in MI, occasional cleaning with IPA and sandpaper worked OK. I now retired to WA and I ride my fatbike along the Pacific ocean every day. Salt contamination takes about 2 weeks and all pads I have tried squeal. Latest trial was Geckors ceramic pads from amazon. Took them 2 weeks, now you can hear me coming when I hit the brakes. Warning! If you do offer Contamination Frustration to me you will be replacing mine very, very often.
@@K.B. hey, I just saw this comment now. For some reason I wasn’t notified a comment had been made. Oh man, salt air adds a whole different level of contamination I bet. I wonder how many sets you’d get before you were cut off? 😜🤣
I asked them. They said one time replacement. I too tried everything. Sanding pads, sanding rotors, isopropyl, etc. Recently squirted some car wash soap... Yes I know who wants slippery soapy brakes. Anyway it worked ... for 2 weeks of riding along the ocean salt and sand before squeezing returned. May try dawn dish soap next :-)
I put these on my Trek Rail over a year ago replacing the stock pads that were not good. My first time with these or using ceramic pads on a mountain bike. I love them compared to metal - no noise and lots of bite with great wear. Now i live in north Ga in wet and non dusty conditions.
I had the same experience. The pads have a smooth controlled feel and are super quiet, but they lost all power and were super scary to ride on. I'm now back to OEM pads. I live and ride in Pemby too so maybe it's out moon dust? Who knows.
Interesting review. Been running the Reds for 2 years now … with some hefty summer downhill bike park riding. I live in SoCal so everything is always dry and dusty. The reds far out performed the metallic SRAM pads with both heat dissapation and longevity not to mention very quiet in wet condition vs the metallic non stop scream. The only issue I can say was I had at the end of one summer some significant break fade on super long runs. Did a break bleed and that resolved it. In fact after the bleed probably the best month of breaking I ever had on that bike. And I didn’t change a thing on the pads or rotors. I’ve not tried the golds so can’t say how much they differ. But the reds made me love SRAM brakes after initially hating them.
I bought mtx pads, gold and red. Getting them to norway was pricey, like 300usd. My newly installed trp dhr evo with stock organic were pretty good, altough lacking power in the front. I have run the trp for a few runs on the organic, then I switched to mtx gold(left rear as it was as it locked up too easily already). ...After seeing too many yt vids about brakes, I got the impression that my rotor would not be optimal for new pad material, so I sanded the rotor to get rid of the organic material. After bedding the mtx gold, i was'nt immediatly impressed, they seemed to perform about the same as the organic I had, if not sligthly worse(less power). Its also autumn and quite wet, rainy, so I had my first run today; They don't like getting wet, so they squeal, but not super loud atleast. It takes a descent with a decent amount of speed to get rid of the squealing, and when I went trough a puddle it was all there again ofc. So basicly squealing noises most of the time on my run. They also seem to have poor power in the beginning of a descent. I pushed super hard, just to test, and there were nowhere near enough power to send me otb. Could getting a new rotor for new pad materials be that sensetive? I didnt feel like throwing away a set of "brand new" trp 223 rotors, so I thought sanding them was enough. Also, the stock organic pads were more quiet than the mtx golds and squealed less in wet/rain . I'm going to save my other mtx golds for summer(when it's dry) and try on a new rotor, but for now, i'm considering installing my organic pads back. Kinda feel i bought into a fad with these pads. However my canyon dude has a set of brand new mtx reds and brand new rotors, so maybe that will work better. I will say that during bedding in these red, they did'nt feel like anything special, again kind of lacking in power, this with code rs 4 piston. Probably wont get any better in the woods with mud and puddles, but time will tell. My favourite brakes so far has been my Maghura MT5 for modulation and "early on power".
Thanks for the info Erich. It sounds like you’ve had an interesting experience with them as well. Maybe not for the better though? I am not sure if using new rotors will solve all your problems, did not for me. It might be worth reaching out to mtx directly as they are pretty responsive, though it sounds like shipping is so expensive it might not be worth it? I have not bothered trying another set as I paid customs etc plus shipping for mine as well so I don’t want to go thru the same problems for that price. Since going back to my standard pads I have not had one of the problems all year that I continually had with the MTX so I either had a faulty set or they don’t like the conditions I ride in??? Who knows. Good luck and keep me posted as to how it turns out. 👍🤟
@@RidingThruLife Thx for such a quick response! I see you ride in condtions that are kind of opposite from me so abit worrying you also have issues. I read about others having issues in dry condtions with glazing. My next pick will be trp's own sintered metal pads(probably going to be loud in the wet though), they are atleast in stock in my country.
@@erichbachman7363 no problem, thanks for taking the time to comment. 😁🤟 It’s interesting as MTX use the lack of squeal and how quiet the brakes are as a selling point. I do ride in the wet quite a bit as well I just don’t usually film as it’s usually darker and the camera lens gets water on it. At least that’s what I tell myself but it also could be that I ride 10 times slower than I already do when it’s wet!! 🤣 but you are right it did seem to be in the dry when I always had problems though they weren’t quiet in the wet either but I think they were already ruined at that point. Keep in touch. I bet there are some amazing trails in 🇳🇴 !!
Erich - and this goes for EVERYONE - when you guys have issues, questions, etc. come to US and ask for help! We are so easily accessible through phone, email and text and are very easy to work with to help you get the foundation set for our brake pads when you feel that you did not get off on the right foot with your first impression. I can't stress this enough - coming here and airing your issues worked this time, but we can't keep up with all the social posts; I just happened to get an email notice about another comment and came here...then happened to see this. Email us - today - and we can talk about your experience. We've sold over 150k sets of these all over the world and now have most major retailers stocking our product - this isn't a fad and there is no way we would have made it this far if our product did not work. Let's get you figured out and on the right track. Use the form on our website and we'll get you handled right away.
@erichbachman - I just tried to look you up in our system and did not find your information. Again his us through our contact form so we can get a ticket started asap. Then give us the rundown as you did above please.
I've been running the MTX red's for a while with my Code RSC's. I am about 210lbs are ride pretty steep PNW terrain. Only put a couple hundred miles on them (mostly in dry and dusty summer conditions), but so far they have been problem free. They do seem to have a little less bite and overall power compared to the OEM metallics. I picked up some new 220mm HS2 rotors and some MTX gold's to test out, but have not gotten around to swapping them out yet thanks to snow covering most my local trails right now.
Thanks for the comment SuperAwesomeFunTimeGo! I hope they continue to be problem free for you. Let me know how the 220 is, I have one in the garage waiting but it is the same scene up here in Whistler, wont be riding anytime soon. I'll put it on in March.
@@MatroniFitness Put maybe 10 hard rides on my golds now, no glazing yet. Between them and my new 220mm HS2 front rotor, the power is pretty impressive. Golds seem to be more noisy than the reds in the wet though.
I too am having similar issues but mostly with noise / super loud train horn style howling. I had used brand new pads mtx gold with brand new TRP rotors in my dhr brakes. Bed them in and squeal, howl etc, but man did they bite and bite predictably for long downhills too. I’m heavy and ride a full fat emtb Shit mtx an email and they sent out a new set. They mentioned (and I’ve heard this from others as well) that it could be the TRP rotors and whatever costing maybe they use. - so I tossed some sram 220/200 rotors on, brand new mtx pads again, and same issue but only on the rears this time. I continued to try sanding and alcohol or acetone per MTX’s recommendations, but nada . After just 20 miles, the pads looked glazed so I chucked em. Put purple galfers in and eh, they’re good, and can handle the heat but done offer the same bite or level of control as mtx I’ve ordered one more set of new to rotors and mtx pads - again- to try and figure this out. I love the way the mtx pads handle how I ride, which is still creeping down steeps and they need to hold my bike and my weight, and they do, the best ever, but they’re absolutely finicky …. I dunno
Sounds familiar. I enjoyed them when they worked for me as well. Just couldn't get them to work consistently. After getting rid of them I have never had the issues I had with them. I do miss the feel and power though, they were great. Thanks for the comment and keep me posted if you figure anything out.
So today, brand new TRP race rotors, cleaned with acetone and installed new mtx gold pads…..again. Bed them in. Got howling again during bed in but it went away soon thereafter. Did a 17 mile ride with some steep descents. About mile 14, HHHOOWWWWLL …. It’s back with a vengeance. All dry riding no mud or water or anything. The brakes still have a good initial bite, then as you progress through the level pull they start to howl, and I lose power, then if I keep going on pulling, the howling stops and the wheels lock up. St this point I’m done. I’ve now tried three brand new sets of mtx gold, on three different types of brand new rotors. These are the only pad I’ve tried that howls like this…… back to galfer purples for me
Interesting, especially with "Quiet" being one of their big claims. Sorry it didn't work out but it sounds like you did everything possible to give them a chance. Maybe we need to try Maxima's with their Power pads? lol Or Mavens. Something for us big dudes. I haven't tried the Galfer purples, you like them?
I ran galfer purple on my older levo and liked them. They’re good pads that don’t seem to heat soak like other pads, but don’t have the same bite as the mtx gold. But yes they’re good and worth a try lol, I had called TRP and discussed a completely unrelated issue on my other bike that has TRP dhr, (bleeding issue since resolved) and they recommended that I try the TRP red pads. - which I did on this current bike……. And yeah, don’t run them. They bed in well bite well but on longer downhill, they overheated and I lost most of my power, which was scary. - TRP gold metallics are ok tho I’m also going to try upping the rear rotor size to a 220 lol
I had exactly the same experience with mtx golds. I had to replace my oem sintered pads at whistler and the LBSs there only had MTX golds. I reluctantly bought them and was initially very impressed with them. Over the months, they kept constantly glazing and losing performance. I went through several cycles of sanding my brake surfaces and degreasing the pads. Same thing, works well for a month, then extremely poor performance. I’ve since switched back to oem sintered pads.
Hey Derek, ya, that was exactly my experience as well. Hasn't happened since I switched. Thanks for sharing your experience and taking the time to comment.
Thanks, you've saved me a trial (I came across them in web search and was looking for reviews, came across this). So, you're using metallic? I ride a Kenevo SL e-bike, the stock SRAM pads on Code RSC work great but if there's something better out there I'd love to know. Curious if you've tried Galfer?
Hey Hermelin MTB, thanks for the comment. I am on Shimano metallic with Saint levers and Zee calipers but have not tried the Galfer pads. I am actually switching to a 223 front Galfer rotor so maybe Ill grab a pair and try them out. If I do, I will keep you posted. I've heard good things about some of the Trickstuff pads but know next to nothing about them. How's your machine? Thats a serious ride. I'd love to try one one day. Keep me posted as to what you try out. I'll let you know if I come across anything as well. 🤟
I have the exact same issue but with my Shimano resin and sintered pads - have been trying to get them working for 6 months. I’m going to give MTX a go now just to see if things get better, surely hope I won’t experience this again.. fingers crossed!
Hello, thanks for the MTX videos. Maybe there is a solution to the problem. I also bought a pair, Magura MT7 Red label. I haven't tried it myself, but I think it's the paint on the edge of the pad, that could be causing the problem. If I buy a factory one, there is no paint on the edge. Of course, I don't know what kind of material the paint is made of, but I suspect that it doesn't like high temperatures, it melts, spreads on the disc and that's it. So I'll definitely sand it off by hand, not with a machine, and I'll see how it goes. If you think you can try it, I think you can provide a more accurate opinion than me.
Hey Viktor, thank you so much for the response and idea. It totally could be the paint and that is something I never even thought of. I am away from the pads at the moment but will check it out and see how it looks and keep you posted. 🤟😃
@@RidingThruLife Thanks for the reply. Good to hear from you. :) Also, I advise you not to use the old disc. Because if the paint is really the source of the problem, if it has burned onto it, it will be difficult to sand it off. Also, the paint would also explain why the bedding process was short. Now that I've sanded it down, I expect the normal bedding process to return. At the moment, the weather is not the best for testing here in Austria. Winter is coming :) so testing may be delayed.
@@unasz84 Ya, I don't think the discs are contaminated by the paint unless the Shimano pads I am using now are not bothered by it as I have had zero issues since sanding and switching back to the Shimano pads. We are getting snowed in here in Whistler as well so it might be a while for bike rides here too. Thanks for the idea though. Maybe somebody who's running the pads will chime in.
Exact same experience here. I live in Pemby and the pads were amazing, I mean unbelievable for the first few months then the same reoccurring issue however I’ve one set on another bike that are still super sharp. Maybe they’re just super susceptible to contamination?
Hey stugillis, thanks for the comment. It was interesting for me as well as it would just keep happening, over and over. The 'easily contaminated' reference is all I can think of too. Just the perfect combo of whatever they didn't like, though its not like I was in any crazy conditions? Which pads were/are you running?
@@RidingThruLife I’ve the golds. 1 set on my Ebike with saints magura MDRP rotors. These have the reoccurring issue. My other set on xt xtr rotors on my ripmo; like you I was blown away with the performance, and this pair is still awesome. Definitely braking harder on the Ebike could also be a overheating issue; just guessing here. Cheers.
@@stugillis thanks for the info. Do you like the rotor/brake combo? I have Saint levers with Zee calipers and am thinking of bumping up to a 220 up front.🤟
@@RidingThruLife for sure I think if you’re wanting the best performance 220s are an excellent upgrade. I like my brakes to be extremely sharp. My index finger is my modulation lol.
I just recently put these on my all road bike since I’ve been having a hard time tracking down shimano pads. Curious if I’ll run into the same issues. In the mean time I’ll be enjoying the honeymoon phase! Thanks for the long term update.
Hey Nicholas, I'm sure you'll be fine. Though I have seen people having the same problems as me, there is a ton of amazing reviews. I wish I could say for sure what was causing it so I could tell you what to avoid 😜Dust seemed to be the common denominator but who knows. When they worked they were amazing. Thanks for taking the time to comment.🤟
Hey Alex Keyes, thanks for the comment. Ya, same problem for me. Shoot them an email and hopefully they'll sort you out. Keep me posted as to what happens, if you try another set etc. 🤟
If it happend twice then id complain. Just having your bike sitting off the back of your car as you drive to trails is enough to put all sorts of contamination on rotors for pads to suck up when they get hot.
Hey Shane, thanks for taking the time to comment. I totally agree. So much crap can get thrown up into the rotor/pads being transported on the back of a truck/car. Thats why I tried many, many times to make it work. Unfortunately, it kept happening and I did talk with them. All I know for certain, is that in the 2 years since I have taken them out, I have not had it happen once, not once, and I still transport my bike the same way. Who knows?
Hello! I'll address a few things here. 1) You experienced some level of contamination. It is near-impossible to trace when it does happen, so I'd rather just move on and keep people happy (brake pads are nearly a sponge, so when something happens is almost impossible to extract that element). Email us again, reference this and we'll get you another set to try. I assume we emailed you our suggested rotor-reset process? Ours is a little different in that we suggest going pretty aggressive on the rotors (to bring back the factory crosshatch pattern that was, in most cases, machined into the surface when new.
2) I'm also really surprised you said you've heard of this from others. We've sold over 100,000 units so far, 'have about 500 dealers, and we rarely hear of this. BUT, the brake systems on our bikes are pretty volatile and even more so given where bikes can go, how fast, etc. We (all enthusiasts) are putting brakes to the limit way more than ever.
3) You mentioned your mechanic friend and his logic of "why wouldn't the bigger brands go after this". I certainly can't speak for them but I DO know how production works along with cost-breakdown, margins and the multi-step ladder of manufacturing, distribution, dealer network to the end user - what I'm saying is, those brands would have to set their MSRP too high for any consumer to bite. In our case, our compound costs us 3.5x over a traditional compound. That adds up and even more so when there are many more layers of distribution than we deal with (we do not use distributors for example, this helps us keep costs down, employee independent sales reps to sell our product to your local dealer, and keep our MSRP where it is).
So there is a pretty deep explanation on several subjects; hope this helps.
Hey MTX,
Thank you for the response, much appreciated.
Like I said in the video, when they were working, your pads were the best. I absolutely loved them. Your communication has always been great. Hell, you responding to this video, I find amazing. The whole issue was that we could not sort out the braking problems with the MTX Gold Pads and to resolve the issues we just had to change pad brand/compounds and the issues never popped up again. I think if it was easier for me to access the MTX pads and swap them out for another set to try, I would have, but it was a little more complicated being in Canada with shipping and customs.
If you would like to set something up off or on YT, just drop me an email at ridingthrulife@shaw.ca
Thanks
Todd
I would gladly buy these if you will replace them if(when) they squeal I have tried a few different pads, shimano metal were the best so far. When I lived in MI, occasional cleaning with IPA and sandpaper worked OK. I now retired to WA and I ride my fatbike along the Pacific ocean every day. Salt contamination takes about 2 weeks and all pads I have tried squeal. Latest trial was Geckors ceramic pads from amazon. Took them 2 weeks, now you can hear me coming when I hit the brakes. Warning! If you do offer Contamination Frustration to me you will be replacing mine very, very often.
@@K.B. hey, I just saw this comment now. For some reason I wasn’t notified a comment had been made. Oh man, salt air adds a whole different level of contamination I bet. I wonder how many sets you’d get before you were cut off? 😜🤣
I asked them. They said one time replacement. I too tried everything. Sanding pads, sanding rotors, isopropyl, etc. Recently squirted some car wash soap... Yes I know who wants slippery soapy brakes. Anyway it worked ... for 2 weeks of riding along the ocean salt and sand before squeezing returned. May try dawn dish soap next :-)
@@skiukb ha, industrial degreaser’s next? Love it. 🤙😜
I put these on my Trek Rail over a year ago replacing the stock pads that were not good. My first time with these or using ceramic pads on a mountain bike. I love them compared to metal - no noise and lots of bite with great wear. Now i live in north Ga in wet and non dusty conditions.
That's awesome. I am glad they are working out for you. Thanks for the heads up.
I had the same experience. The pads have a smooth controlled feel and are super quiet, but they lost all power and were super scary to ride on. I'm now back to OEM pads. I live and ride in Pemby too so maybe it's out moon dust? Who knows.
Hey Kell, thanks for the comment. Another Pemby shredder commented the same as well.
Interesting review. Been running the Reds for 2 years now … with some hefty summer downhill bike park riding. I live in SoCal so everything is always dry and dusty. The reds far out performed the metallic SRAM pads with both heat dissapation and longevity not to mention very quiet in wet condition vs the metallic non stop scream. The only issue I can say was I had at the end of one summer some significant break fade on super long runs. Did a break bleed and that resolved it. In fact after the bleed probably the best month of breaking I ever had on that bike. And I didn’t change a thing on the pads or rotors. I’ve not tried the golds so can’t say how much they differ. But the reds made me love SRAM brakes after initially hating them.
Hey Happy Zeebra, that's awesome, super stoked they work for you. 👊 Thanks for the comment
I bought mtx pads, gold and red. Getting them to norway was pricey, like 300usd. My newly installed trp dhr evo with stock organic were pretty good, altough lacking power in the front. I have run the trp for a few runs on the organic, then I switched to mtx gold(left rear as it was as it locked up too easily already). ...After seeing too many yt vids about brakes, I got the impression that my rotor would not be optimal for new pad material, so I sanded the rotor to get rid of the organic material. After bedding the mtx gold, i was'nt immediatly impressed, they seemed to perform about the same as the organic I had, if not sligthly worse(less power). Its also autumn and quite wet, rainy, so I had my first run today; They don't like getting wet, so they squeal, but not super loud atleast. It takes a descent with a decent amount of speed to get rid of the squealing, and when I went trough a puddle it was all there again ofc. So basicly squealing noises most of the time on my run. They also seem to have poor power in the beginning of a descent. I pushed super hard, just to test, and there were nowhere near enough power to send me otb. Could getting a new rotor for new pad materials be that sensetive? I didnt feel like throwing away a set of "brand new" trp 223 rotors, so I thought sanding them was enough. Also, the stock organic pads were more quiet than the mtx golds and squealed less in wet/rain . I'm going to save my other mtx golds for summer(when it's dry) and try on a new rotor, but for now, i'm considering installing my organic pads back. Kinda feel i bought into a fad with these pads. However my canyon dude has a set of brand new mtx reds and brand new rotors, so maybe that will work better. I will say that during bedding in these red, they did'nt feel like anything special, again kind of lacking in power, this with code rs 4 piston. Probably wont get any better in the woods with mud and puddles, but time will tell. My favourite brakes so far has been my Maghura MT5 for modulation and "early on power".
Thanks for the info Erich. It sounds like you’ve had an interesting experience with them as well. Maybe not for the better though? I am not sure if using new rotors will solve all your problems, did not for me. It might be worth reaching out to mtx directly as they are pretty responsive, though it sounds like shipping is so expensive it might not be worth it? I have not bothered trying another set as I paid customs etc plus shipping for mine as well so I don’t want to go thru the same problems for that price. Since going back to my standard pads I have not had one of the problems all year that I continually had with the MTX so I either had a faulty set or they don’t like the conditions I ride in??? Who knows. Good luck and keep me posted as to how it turns out. 👍🤟
@@RidingThruLife Thx for such a quick response! I see you ride in condtions that are kind of opposite from me so abit worrying you also have issues. I read about others having issues in dry condtions with glazing. My next pick will be trp's own sintered metal pads(probably going to be loud in the wet though), they are atleast in stock in my country.
@@erichbachman7363 no problem, thanks for taking the time to comment. 😁🤟 It’s interesting as MTX use the lack of squeal and how quiet the brakes are as a selling point. I do ride in the wet quite a bit as well I just don’t usually film as it’s usually darker and the camera lens gets water on it. At least that’s what I tell myself but it also could be that I ride 10 times slower than I already do when it’s wet!! 🤣 but you are right it did seem to be in the dry when I always had problems though they weren’t quiet in the wet either but I think they were already ruined at that point.
Keep in touch. I bet there are some amazing trails in 🇳🇴 !!
Erich - and this goes for EVERYONE - when you guys have issues, questions, etc. come to US and ask for help! We are so easily accessible through phone, email and text and are very easy to work with to help you get the foundation set for our brake pads when you feel that you did not get off on the right foot with your first impression. I can't stress this enough - coming here and airing your issues worked this time, but we can't keep up with all the social posts; I just happened to get an email notice about another comment and came here...then happened to see this. Email us - today - and we can talk about your experience. We've sold over 150k sets of these all over the world and now have most major retailers stocking our product - this isn't a fad and there is no way we would have made it this far if our product did not work. Let's get you figured out and on the right track. Use the form on our website and we'll get you handled right away.
@erichbachman - I just tried to look you up in our system and did not find your information. Again his us through our contact form so we can get a ticket started asap. Then give us the rundown as you did above please.
I've been running the MTX red's for a while with my Code RSC's. I am about 210lbs are ride pretty steep PNW terrain. Only put a couple hundred miles on them (mostly in dry and dusty summer conditions), but so far they have been problem free. They do seem to have a little less bite and overall power compared to the OEM metallics. I picked up some new 220mm HS2 rotors and some MTX gold's to test out, but have not gotten around to swapping them out yet thanks to snow covering most my local trails right now.
Thanks for the comment SuperAwesomeFunTimeGo! I hope they continue to be problem free for you. Let me know how the 220 is, I have one in the garage waiting but it is the same scene up here in Whistler, wont be riding anytime soon. I'll put it on in March.
shop nearby in colorado warned me about golds glazing easily and sold me red. 190#
@@MatroniFitness Put maybe 10 hard rides on my golds now, no glazing yet. Between them and my new 220mm HS2 front rotor, the power is pretty impressive. Golds seem to be more noisy than the reds in the wet though.
I too am having similar issues but mostly with noise / super loud train horn style howling.
I had used brand new pads mtx gold with brand new TRP rotors in my dhr brakes. Bed them in and squeal, howl etc, but man did they bite and bite predictably for long downhills too. I’m heavy and ride a full fat emtb
Shit mtx an email and they sent out a new set. They mentioned (and I’ve heard this from others as well) that it could be the TRP rotors and whatever costing maybe they use. - so I tossed some sram 220/200 rotors on, brand new mtx pads again, and same issue but only on the rears this time.
I continued to try sanding and alcohol or acetone per MTX’s recommendations, but nada . After just 20 miles, the pads looked glazed so I chucked em. Put purple galfers in and eh, they’re good, and can handle the heat but done offer the same bite or level of control as mtx
I’ve ordered one more set of new to rotors and mtx pads - again- to try and figure this out.
I love the way the mtx pads handle how I ride, which is still creeping down steeps and they need to hold my bike and my weight, and they do, the best ever, but they’re absolutely finicky …. I dunno
Sounds familiar. I enjoyed them when they worked for me as well. Just couldn't get them to work consistently. After getting rid of them I have never had the issues I had with them. I do miss the feel and power though, they were great. Thanks for the comment and keep me posted if you figure anything out.
So today, brand new TRP race rotors, cleaned with acetone and installed new mtx gold pads…..again. Bed them in. Got howling again during bed in but it went away soon thereafter. Did a 17 mile ride with some steep descents. About mile 14, HHHOOWWWWLL …. It’s back with a vengeance. All dry riding no mud or water or anything. The brakes still have a good initial bite, then as you progress through the level pull they start to howl, and I lose power, then if I keep going on pulling, the howling stops and the wheels lock up.
St this point I’m done. I’ve now tried three brand new sets of mtx gold, on three different types of brand new rotors.
These are the only pad I’ve tried that howls like this…… back to galfer purples for me
Interesting, especially with "Quiet" being one of their big claims. Sorry it didn't work out but it sounds like you did everything possible to give them a chance. Maybe we need to try Maxima's with their Power pads? lol Or Mavens. Something for us big dudes. I haven't tried the Galfer purples, you like them?
I ran galfer purple on my older levo and liked them. They’re good pads that don’t seem to heat soak like other pads, but don’t have the same bite as the mtx gold. But yes they’re good and worth a try
lol, I had called TRP and discussed a completely unrelated issue on my other bike that has TRP dhr, (bleeding issue since resolved) and they recommended that I try the TRP red pads. - which I did on this current bike……. And yeah, don’t run them. They bed in well bite well but on longer downhill, they overheated and I lost most of my power, which was scary. - TRP gold metallics are ok tho
I’m also going to try upping the rear rotor size to a 220 lol
I had exactly the same experience with mtx golds. I had to replace my oem sintered pads at whistler and the LBSs there only had MTX golds. I reluctantly bought them and was initially very impressed with them. Over the months, they kept constantly glazing and losing performance. I went through several cycles of sanding my brake surfaces and degreasing the pads. Same thing, works well for a month, then extremely poor performance.
I’ve since switched back to oem sintered pads.
Hey Derek, ya, that was exactly my experience as well. Hasn't happened since I switched. Thanks for sharing your experience and taking the time to comment.
Thanks, you've saved me a trial (I came across them in web search and was looking for reviews, came across this). So, you're using metallic? I ride a Kenevo SL e-bike, the stock SRAM pads on Code RSC work great but if there's something better out there I'd love to know. Curious if you've tried Galfer?
Hey Hermelin MTB, thanks for the comment. I am on Shimano metallic with Saint levers and Zee calipers but have not tried the Galfer pads. I am actually switching to a 223 front Galfer rotor so maybe Ill grab a pair and try them out. If I do, I will keep you posted. I've heard good things about some of the Trickstuff pads but know next to nothing about them. How's your machine? Thats a serious ride. I'd love to try one one day. Keep me posted as to what you try out. I'll let you know if I come across anything as well. 🤟
I have the exact same issue but with my Shimano resin and sintered pads - have been trying to get them working for 6 months. I’m going to give MTX a go now just to see if things get better, surely hope I won’t experience this again.. fingers crossed!
It's no fun when you are having pad/brake issues. They are worth a try for sure. Let me know how it goes. 🤟
Hello, thanks for the MTX videos.
Maybe there is a solution to the problem. I also bought a pair, Magura MT7 Red label. I haven't tried it myself, but I think it's the paint on the edge of the pad, that could be causing the problem. If I buy a factory one, there is no paint on the edge.
Of course, I don't know what kind of material the paint is made of, but I suspect that it doesn't like high temperatures, it melts, spreads on the disc and that's it.
So I'll definitely sand it off by hand, not with a machine, and I'll see how it goes.
If you think you can try it, I think you can provide a more accurate opinion than me.
Hey Viktor, thank you so much for the response and idea. It totally could be the paint and that is something I never even thought of. I am away from the pads at the moment but will check it out and see how it looks and keep you posted. 🤟😃
@@RidingThruLife Thanks for the reply. Good to hear from you. :)
Also, I advise you not to use the old disc.
Because if the paint is really the source of the problem, if it has burned onto it, it will be difficult to sand it off.
Also, the paint would also explain why the bedding process was short.
Now that I've sanded it down, I expect the normal bedding process to return.
At the moment, the weather is not the best for testing here in Austria. Winter is coming :) so testing may be delayed.
@@unasz84 Ya, I don't think the discs are contaminated by the paint unless the Shimano pads I am using now are not bothered by it as I have had zero issues since sanding and switching back to the Shimano pads. We are getting snowed in here in Whistler as well so it might be a while for bike rides here too. Thanks for the idea though. Maybe somebody who's running the pads will chime in.
Like with cars - there are rotors which automatically refresh the pad surface with their design... They may increase pad wear though...
Interesting. Kind of like sanding it when you brake? Take off a tiny bit of surface layer?
Exact same experience here. I live in Pemby and the pads were amazing, I mean unbelievable for the first few months then the same reoccurring issue however I’ve one set on another bike that are still super sharp. Maybe they’re just super susceptible to contamination?
Hey stugillis, thanks for the comment. It was interesting for me as well as it would just keep happening, over and over. The 'easily contaminated' reference is all I can think of too. Just the perfect combo of whatever they didn't like, though its not like I was in any crazy conditions? Which pads were/are you running?
@@RidingThruLife I’ve the golds. 1 set on my Ebike with saints magura MDRP rotors. These have the reoccurring issue. My other set on xt xtr rotors on my ripmo; like you I was blown away with the performance, and this pair is still awesome. Definitely braking harder on the Ebike could also be a overheating issue; just guessing here. Cheers.
@@stugillis thanks for the info. Do you like the rotor/brake combo? I have Saint levers with Zee calipers and am thinking of bumping up to a 220 up front.🤟
@@RidingThruLife for sure I think if you’re wanting the best performance 220s are an excellent upgrade. I like my brakes to be extremely sharp. My index finger is my modulation lol.
@@stugillis ha, same. Thanks for the info.
I just recently put these on my all road bike since I’ve been having a hard time tracking down shimano pads.
Curious if I’ll run into the same issues. In the mean time I’ll be enjoying the honeymoon phase! Thanks for the long term update.
Hey Nicholas, I'm sure you'll be fine. Though I have seen people having the same problems as me, there is a ton of amazing reviews. I wish I could say for sure what was causing it so I could tell you what to avoid 😜Dust seemed to be the common denominator but who knows. When they worked they were amazing. Thanks for taking the time to comment.🤟
Couldnt get mine to stop glazing over either
Hey Alex Keyes, thanks for the comment. Ya, same problem for me. Shoot them an email and hopefully they'll sort you out. Keep me posted as to what happens, if you try another set etc. 🤟
If it happend twice then id complain. Just having your bike sitting off the back of your car as you drive to trails is enough to put all sorts of contamination on rotors for pads to suck up when they get hot.
Hey Shane, thanks for taking the time to comment. I totally agree. So much crap can get thrown up into the rotor/pads being transported on the back of a truck/car. Thats why I tried many, many times to make it work. Unfortunately, it kept happening and I did talk with them. All I know for certain, is that in the 2 years since I have taken them out, I have not had it happen once, not once, and I still transport my bike the same way. Who knows?
What? You’re not pushing the latest and greatest??? Just kidding. Thanks for your honest review and assessment.
Lol, right? I tried, and then I tried a bunch more. Didn't work out for me. Thanks for the comment!! Much appreciated. 👊
Red or gold?
Hey westonp80, I was on the Golds. 🤟
Thx i buy metalic👍
No problem 👍Thanks for the comment