@@LeviathanGamer799 Agreed. I really hope Tari (and also Belle) is worked on this year; she has declined in appearances since at least a part of Season 11 and the fans’ criticism on her under usage is something I justifiably can agree with.
I agree with the Tari part, not only is she under developed, she’s a pathetic coward, which ruins her for me. Also, might Meggy’s graduation lead into a Sunset Paradise season 2?
I mean I guess that would be cool but I really don’t want to see the awful Sunset Paradise Meggy again. I just want that Graduation thing be a movie or arc about her. Why not call the movie Meggy’s Destiny 2
Honestly, all that I would hope SMG4 could do in 2023 is mention more or heck, dare i dream it, show the perma-killed characters more. If you're asking if I just want to see Axol back, not really, I actually want to see Desti back, mostly because I think she has a lot of wasted potential as a character and that SMG4 should give her a 2nd chance, since it feels like she was made only for the Anime arc and that's it (Also why do I feel like I just said something hella controversial)
@@ProbsgonnagetaDMCAbyAdidas I'm 7 months late but I actually already know TwT Me and DespacitoBepis seem to be the ones supporting Desti's comeback the most
You bring up some big points. i hate the bubkins redesign,i love tari and am very sad with how little attention she ever has,and i am also pretty sad about how repetitive the series has been. Sadly,we are only left to hope...
Here's what I want -Less Mario abuse, and less Manchild Mario (I wouldn't say they're super prevalent but I do think it's a problem) -Re-Introduce the "Meet The" series as a second Wednesday series (maybe once or twice a month have a video that introduces you to one of the characters) -A more comedic arc -WOTFI-less arc -more character vareity
Man it's August and you predicted a lot of stuff, the re-redesigns, the conclusion of Meggy's student career, Tari development (Grand Theft Mario, Western Spaghetti)
Personally, my hopes are them include that, if they're going to add new OCs, only add in 1-2, limit them to arc debuts, & don't add OCs that are meant to replace the roles of characters from the classic era (looking at YOU Hal Monitor & Wheeler). TBH, I'd rather they give underutilized characters or characters that were originally one offs (Killer Ink for Example) the spotlight instead of making new OCs. The Lawsuit Arc was far from perfect, but it DID buck the trend of them permanently killing off a character for drama. I hope they do continue that trend. If they DO kill off someone, have it be someone who doesn't serve much of a purpose, but is big enough to make an impact towards some of the main characters, SMG1, SMG2, & Tari fit this category since the former 2 are close to SMG4 & SMG3 while the latter one is close to Saiko (Though, them offing Tari seems less likely). Don't have an arc drag on for too long, even IF it is high stakes. Have a movie be self-contained, IE don't have it be a sequel to an arc or part of an arc itself. More user-submitted content, not just from UA-cam, but from Twitter, Discord, & Reddit. This is outside of the Meme Games & WOTFI, basically stuff like the fan, submitted episode. I would like them to give other characters the spotlight, especially those in the main cast outside of SMG4, Mario, & Meggy. Cool it with the trend chasing, ESPECIALLY in what is supposed to be a holiday special or something big like a character's birthday. Cool it with the redesigns, I have no problem with Tari possibly getting a new look, but they BETTER NOT touch characters like Chris & Swag. Also, PLEASE TAKE THE CRITICISMS TO HEART, not just on UA-cam, but on Reddit, Twitter, & Discord.
Really like these points, some more elaboration on cosmology to clear up the retcons would be nifty. I also would like to see them fulfil meggys college character arc, but I hope they will make Mario useful in it and have him and meggy get on as a wholesome duo again not fighting. If they do dispute have something serious and legit and they both make amends. They should definitely give tari and belle some backstory as well.
The one thing I hope we get this year is more consistent writing. The one major gripe I’ve had with SMG4 more recently is that the writers can’t seem to have any sense of consistency with the characters and stories. Lawsuit arc felt undercooked, most of the comedy episodes didn’t really make much sense and most of the jokes would fall flat, and characters like Meggy have consistently inconsistent characterization where one moment they’ll be perfectly in line with their established character and the next they’ll change sides so fast you’d think they have split personality disorder. The redesigns i can live with, the wotfi arc enders I am alright with, I just want the writers to give us better stories, better humour, and to properly write the characters we’ve come to know.
Really good points. One thing I’d like to add is more consistency. Main example being how in one moment, Mario and Meggy are a dynamic duo. The next, they’re at each other’s throats for the dumbest and most mundane reasons. - And this isn’t even exclusive to them. A lot of characters are also like this.
@@BoltBlades12 I know they are not actually siblings, they call each other that. Also, I have siblings and I can debunk that, because sometimes we get along and sometimes we fight for no reason.
I have very little hope but it’s still POSSIBLE just extremely unlike that they bring Axol back. Honestly Melony just doesn’t feel the same without him even with all her development. And no her Pet Axol Jr isn’t a “replacement”….,
I do agree. Ever since Axol left, Melony lost purpose. Especially since Revelations has ended. There’s literally nothing left for her at this point since she’s already at the peak of her “development”, basically waiting till she gets killed off like so many before her.
@@BoltBlades12 yeah really. I highly doubt it but hopefully Luke and Kevin realize there mistake and bring him back even if they have to get a New VA for him.
Hot take:I have no problem with ark wotfis I mean it's been happening since the first ark a break would be fine (like from 2019) but if they continued I'd have no problem I feel like that's why they made meme games for your non-wotfi needs but feel free to disagree and I will hold my opinion
call it the Castle Arc, and the main villain can be a corrupted Princess Peach, she was still in her castle when it was destroyed in Its gonna be perfect
Dear Cibles, I hope you can see this comment. To put it briefly, I am a huge smg4 fan and I want to become an animation youtuber. I will probably start learning Gmod animations after two months. And before that, I have written a lot of scripts, and some of them maybe can satisfy your wish. for example: 101 ways to unjam Mario's pingus If Mario was in meta runner full movie If Mario was in sunset paradise Mario's ass stuck in a beach chair If Mario was in top gun 2 Mario in undertale genocide run (with Tari involved) Meggy plays cooking simulator Mario can't help sneezing (bruh I really wrote too much and there is more) And an arc that involves "The youtube arc", "The genesis arc", and some UNDERTALE related mini stories (yep ur favorite). I temporarily named the arc "Timeline corruption" (To be frank I spent like for the entire three months worling hard thinking and writing the plot, however, as a rookie of a story writer, I think the ending of the story [needs to be improved] or else it would not be that kind of satisfying) If you see this comment and like this idea, I will be very heppy and want to discuss them with you on discord if possible in the future That is probably all I want to tell you for now, and I hope you will like this!!! And of course, HAPPY NEW YEAR, Cibles!!!!!!
I agree with a few points but I don't agree with the arc part for a few reasons 1. It seems like a bit much for a single arc 2. If we wanna see more development with Chris and Swagmaster, maybe there could be a GNR reboot except with a word that is more PC and accepted by society. 3. Like Saiko and Kaizo, Tari and Belle could have a what I like to call "Mini Arc" 4. As said by @nintendude4287 Meggy's college story could be concluded in SP Season 2 5. I'm getting tired of getting a new arc every year and I just want a nice, clam year where it isn't like "OMFG WE GONNA DIE!!! WE GOTTA KILL THE BAD GUY WITH THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP IN WOTFI!!!!" Other than that. I agree with your wishlist.
All i want for my SMG4 Wishlist is... 1. Focusing on more characters other than Meggy, SMG4 and Mario like Tari, Saiko, Chris, Swag etc 2. Make Mario less childish than he was in How To Train Your Mario and All I Want for Christmas is Mario To FREAKIN BEHAVE First half, No more of this Mario pls 3. Have an Arc focus on Tari or Shroomy and make the arc just as long as between Waluigi Arc and Anime Arc 4. Make WOTFI 2023 a standalone this time more than an another arc ender 5. Less Controversial Videos like in the past years 6. Don't have Mario in every thumbnail or title of the video (especially when he's not the main character) 7. Bring back old series like GNR, Meet the cast, Ssenmodnar and more and finally 8. No deaths on a main character and i mean no perma-deaths on a main character what's so ever!
I just really personally think that the fact new SMG4 went crazy on a video,kept working on it and when his Wi-fi went out he attacked Mario's computer.(But i guess he finished it,but he is still crazy about it)And yes,he has been working on that dumb video for 3-4 weeks.And I think that is the beginning of a new arc,what you guys think?
What I wish from SMG4 in 2023: For him to make his animated characters not I repeat, NOT MOVE LIKE ROBOTS!!! LIKE SERIOUSLY IT MAKES ME SICK!!! I HATE THE WAY SMG4 ANIMATES MEGGY THE WAY I HATE MATH!!! WHAT HAPPENED TO HIS DECENT ANIMATION ON MEGGY BACK IN 2017-2019??? HOW DO WE GO FROM LIFE-LIKE AND GOOD ANIMATION TO ROBOTIC, STIFF, AND LIFELESS ANIMATION!!! HOW, WHY, WHEN, WHERE, AND HOW!!! Long story short: I hereby ban SMG4 from animating in Henry's Animation Tool FOR LIFE!!! THAT'S HOW BAD I HATE HIS ANIMATION WORK!!! (not on the Glitch shows, just in Gmod in general).
The Avar Project Something disastrous has happened. I'm writing this down in an entry to get my thoughts together. As I left home from work a couple days ago, Grace asked me to come in for an important business meeting. She stated that she wanted to take the "next big step" in the Avar Project. So I called my wife and told her that I'll be home a little late. She understood and so I went to visit Grace. Grace told me that she met with someone named Morfran. Morfran was a scientist who studied all forms of plants and animals with an interest in astrology. He stated that he found the Avar Project online. He wants to take co-ownership of it. He believed that the project can benefit his studies. He promised that if we let him take co-ownership, he could provide $200,000 to further the Avar Project. Grace didn't want to make a decision without my consent, as I was her best friend and essentially the co-owner. I was very cautious at making this decision so I asked Grace if I could meet with Morfran. She agreed. Today I didn't go to work, I was in a meeting all day waiting for Morfran to show up. He never did. Grace was confused as she did ask Morfran to go to the meeting and he did promise to be here. We waited for hours and hours. Eventually, we grew tired of waiting and I went back home for the night. However, before I went to sleep, I wanted to see if I could find any research on Morfran. I asked Grace for his last name over text. She stated his last name was "Morfran Diggory". I tried Googling it and did as much research as I could. Over the next two days, I called to many different places, asking to see if I could find information about someone named Morfran Diggory. Morfran Diggory... isn't a real person. By the time I found this out, I tried contacting Grace about it. However, she had already signed the business deal. Morfran now owns 88% of the project. I have a dark feeling in the pit of my stomach 0:27
hope that Melony shows up to watch Meggy graduate I also think that maybe there should be an episode where at night Loaf and Axol Jr sneak out to hang out like how Gary and Spot from Spongebob did
Image if the next arc was like the gensis or revolations where Axol returned (And since meta runner is over why is Tari's voice just *Random Tari noises* since Meggy, SMG4,SMG3 and sometimes SMG1 and SMG2 have new voices when a video is made.)
For me: More unexpected partnerships, like Swagmaster and Shroomy, Karen and Luigi, Kaizo and Bob... Fixing Mario and Meggy's friendship (in a realistic way) That's applies Bob and Boopkins' friendship too.
Personally I hate Meggy has a character, she can be annoying, she can’t decide what path to take e.x. Lawyer, officer, etc. her character is just so screwed up and it makes her bad
I agreed with you actually meggy becoming the main character during and after the lawsuit arc the others characters a literally forgotten like shroomy or chris and swag and a lot that s kinda sad for smg4 meggy it s just here for the simper
I just want a Luigi arc that’s really it or just more Luigi character development I think he’s the most wasted character in the SMG4 Series being Mario’s brother like YOU COULD MAKE HIM A VILLAIN *cough cough Mr L cough because he feels he’s in Mario’s shadow *literally luigi* and cough* have him go on a training arc because he feels he hasn’t helped and not coming back intel he’s stronger maybe just look maybe look into what makes Luigi tic in some way and why he’s just kinda chill and doesn’t get jealous I know the second and third overlap but behsjsjskdn idc Have a arc we’re Mario and gets captured again in some way and maybe luigi could step up even tho he’s scared do anything wIth LUIGI *PLEASE LIKE JSYT LET MAGE THAISI*
I won't to see new characters DK the monkey to join the smg4 chew Returning characters from the dead or forgotten characters And Maybe redesigns of them Tari's backstory And 👁️ 0:27
0:26 slow the video down to 0.25 there is a link there it goes to something called the avar project i wont be telling anything about it here so go see for yourself (there are capitalized letters those are V,K and L)
yoo you got eome stuff, redesigns got some stuff changed, smg4 and 3 were more of the main character in the 'insanity arc' (close enough to an arc) and hopefully they do other stuff
i woild like to see a arc with some great evil turn mario evil and being manulited by a greater evil a plot where the villain is from another unvierse and jealous because they have mario and not them they kidnapp mario and brainwash him to be one of them on their side and smg4 and others must save mario their friend and stop them to take over the unvierse and meggy must face a dobbleganger at they like evil version of meggy and others😀😀😀
Wishlist: Honestly, i'm hoping that MxM becomes canon in the SMGVERSE even just for a short time since it would be nice to see all of the haters stupid faces when they see it. I'm not saying that I ship Mario and Meggy, but when the haters convince that Mario x Meggy is "illegal" it's super annoying how they convince it! Saying that Mario is "too old" to be shipped even though the canon age is 24 and Meggy's age is 20! The haters are all just a bunch of 5-year olds anyway. Oh wow that was kind of controversial ngl.
The number 1 thing i want is a new nuisance villain. (what SMG3 was before he joined the main cast) A villain who shows up to cause trouble for 1 episode about 3 or 4 times a year. A villain to cause trouble 4 the cast, gets beat down and comes back later.
I have come from the future so far to say that we are getting a movie bloopkins is got a better redesign and SMG4 SMG3 and Maggie get revamps also SMG4 becomes insane and becomes the antagonist
my wishlist: - some of the old smg4 serieses to return like super pokemans 64, sonic the derphog and wacky wario bros. - another mario simulator - wotfis that are like 2017 and older. Not wotfis that end an random arc.
Hey CiblesYT I'm gonna make SMG4 Videos with Garry's Mod and make awesome adventures with not only the SMG4 Boys but also the SMG4 Girls as well and not only that but I'm also gonna make Special SMG4 Videos called "Jordan Middendorp: War Of The Great Jordans" cuz it's like SMG4's War Of The Fat Italians with rap battle except the battle part is gonna be a heavy metal battle cuz it's based on Battle Of The Bands and it'll be very cool and very awesome that I'll get into that. and also just a question: if I do the textures for the Saiko Model in the way I wanted to in Garry's Mod, when it comes to make SMG4 Videos with Garry's Mod, then would it actually work?
I kinda wanna see like very old obscure characters that appeared in old videos reappear! Even like a small camio! I'm not talking about like the very old Mario recolour UA-camrs I don't think it would be right to throw them in there without their permission (X & FM are obvious exceptions) but like characters who appeared in one maybe more episode's and never did again! Like idk Slenderman, the bully's um... Uh hm uh yeah that's all I have but you get what I mean!
@@ShiningStar5022 he was a very old and I mean extremely old smg4 villain from the first seasons,he was a totally black Mario (except for the golden buttons, brown hair and normal eyes) he had 7 participations through all the show The first five being about him: •Blowing up the White House •Stealing smg4 account (before smg3 did) •Taking over peaches castle by defeating the entire first cast by himself •Killing many old cast members to shape shift into them to infiltrate the castle, while Being smg3 mercenary •And being one of the original members of the anti cast He then made small cameos through the years (even in the 10th year anniversary) but disappeared and hasn’t made a important appearance in a decade Also he’s named “crazy toilet dude” because he lacks a actual name. Because of that he has 4 different names on the wiki each treating it like a different character even though they all act the same and have the same design, just because he lacked a name (He even changed name mid video once) He’s basically a evil Mario able to shapeshift and teleport but instead of being obsessed with spaghetti, he’s obsessed with Toilets He’s last relevant appearance was a sketch of him fighting Mario in a epic 1v1 till the police guy’s arrested both of them because crazy toilet guy destroyed a police car by accident So I think is fitting for the forgotten pseudo anti of Mario to be the friend of the only evil inkling which was also forgotten (Also he got a legacy render for the wiki)
To follow your point on the newer episode being very similar, I'd like to rant a bit The animation sure looks better (except for boopkins because screw his redesign) but all of the originality that made the old episodes good is now long gone and it is starting to looks more like a youtube kid show than anything else But I guess this was bound to happen at some point because with the creation of glitch production everything became ever so slowly more corporate-like and the old very amateur but passionate charm the serie had dissapeared Every episode now looks almost exactly the same as the big layer of randomness is almost completely gone, and the more sentimental parts really ruin the vibe of what smg4 was supposed to be Sure it can be serious but it was really generally badly executed, especially in the lawsuit arc, which was WAY too short for its plotline To conclude I'd really like if they could bring back the creativity that they had, and experiment with ideas and concepts, a bit like some old videos which had completely original throwaway characters (like the toad rangers for example). It would give us a break from the main and secondary cast and allows for a really big breathing room for experimentations (thought I'm not sure the new animation standards would allows the making of those throwaway character anymore)
With that maybe the next arc villain is literally an evil SMG4 fanboy or something trying to fix everything. And I imagine that they are literally some sort of Mother Brain esk design or something on the lines of Fecto Forgo or even Jergingha from Wonderful 101. Maybe the whole idea of a real life fan taking it too far and even wanting to kill the real SMG4 and replacing him.
You know you said the thing about tari having a character evolution and i thought it would be great if they did that but with the meme games 2023 if there is one it would also be great if she got a redesingn
Well Cibles, after hearing all your wants for SMG4 I think that the fan-made “Veritas Arc” created by “No Null” is right up your alley! It is actually a continuation of the cosmology lore following the events of “Revelations”. It starts out a bit rough because the creator was just a beginner at the time, but as it continues it becomes very impressive! Plz check it out when you have the time it is CRIMINALLY underrated!
I actually remember Kevin mentioning in a video on the Hobo Bros channel (can't remember the name of it sadly), that they were going to dedicate more episodes towards different characters rather than Mario be the focus all the time. Shortly after that they did that with Meggy... and then... never again sadly :(
This is the message that you get when you type in the link when it glitches Something disastrous has happened. I'm writing this down in an entry to get my thoughts together. As I left home from work a couple days ago, Grace asked me to come in for an important business meeting. She stated that she wanted to take the "next big step" in the Avar Project. So I called my wife and told her that I'll be home a little late. She understood and so I went to visit Grace. Grace told me that she met with someone named Morfran. Morfran was a scientist who studied all forms of plants and animals with an interest in astrology. He stated that he found the Avar Project online. He wants to take co-ownership of it. He believed that the project can benefit his studies. He promised that if we let him take co-ownership, he could provide $200,000 to further the Avar Project. Grace didn't want to make a decision without my consent, as I was her best friend and essentially the co-owner. I was very cautious at making this decision so I asked Grace if I could meet with Morfran. She agreed. Today I didn't go to work, I was in a meeting all day waiting for Morfran to show up. He never did. Grace was confused as she did ask Morfran to go to the meeting and he did promise to be here. We waited for hours and hours. Eventually, we grew tired of waiting and I went back home for the night. However, before I went to sleep, I wanted to see if I could find any research on Morfran. I asked Grace for his last name over text. She stated his last name was "Morfran Diggory". I tried Googling it and did as much research as I could. Over the next two days, I called to many different places, asking to see if I could find information about someone named Morfran Diggory. Morfran Diggory... isn't a real person. By the time I found this out, I tried contacting Grace about it. However, she had already signed the business deal. Morfran now owns 88% of the project. I have a dark feeling in the pit of my stomach.
Cibles the smg4 new video if you watched it does it seem that door that the aliens are worshipping might turn into an arc? lol imagine a smg-1 and it looks like theres a new monster in space that came from a door make a theory out of it
I have a friend who’s a firm believer Tari and Meggy could be a “Thing”. I think its possible honestly, given how they seem best of friends already and Mario and Meggy share more of a brother and sister relationship.
If we do get an arc about the end of meggy's collage career then there is a chance that shadow meggy might return however idk who would be the main antagonist if we have an arc about tari though
My smg4 wish list: Stop posting cringe content Stop making original characters Stop with the stupid story arcs Make good videos again Get rid of all the original characters Fr old smg4 > new smg4 his content isn't even entertaining anymore
What I'd hope for the future of SMG4 is listed below (not 2023, the future) 1.Balance out the use of Gmod and N64 2.Give the classic characters such as Bowser, Toad, Yoshi, Peach, Wario, Waluigi, X, FM, Ben, Chris, SwagMaster69, the animatronics, Starman (with a replacement voice actor / person), and the most lovable character in the series Steve main and major roles in the series and have them be a part of group activities. 3. Make Peach less angry more supportive like she use to be. 4.Change SMG4, Smg3, Bob, and Fishy Boopkins (and possibly all the recolors) back to their old selves (for an everlasting time). It's highly unlikely that Nintendo would cause problems for SMG4. Some people are still calling Spikes and Garos in current Nintendo games Fishy Boopkins and Bob. Doing the redesigns at the end of WOFTI 2022 was actually taking away John Wick's puppy. 5.Have Arcs not always end in WOFTI's.
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Just want to say, I wanted to help and put the link hidden on the video
But damn, UA-cam won’t let me put it in the comments thinking I’m a bot
Your wishlist of Tari having an arc and getting development became true!
My wishlist:
1. Be good
That’s it.
And also do something with Tari she’s my favorite character and SMG4 barely ever acknowledges her existence
@@LeviathanGamer799 Agreed. I really hope Tari (and also Belle) is worked on this year; she has declined in appearances since at least a part of Season 11 and the fans’ criticism on her under usage is something I justifiably can agree with.
I agree with the Tari part, not only is she under developed, she’s a pathetic coward, which ruins her for me. Also, might Meggy’s graduation lead into a Sunset Paradise season 2?
I mean I guess that would be cool but I really don’t want to see the awful Sunset Paradise Meggy again.
I just want that Graduation thing be a movie or arc about her.
Why not call the movie Meggy’s Destiny 2
@@dabcat939 WOAH THERE! I love Meggy's SP design! And no offense, Meggy's Destiny 2 is a pretty lousy and derivative name.
@@dabcat939 My guy, respectfully, KEEP YOUR CONTROVERSIAL OPINIONS TO YOURSELF.
@@nintendude4287I HIGHLY doubt SP Season 2 will have Meggy as the protagonist
I’m hoping that Tari or Melony are the protagonists (if it happens)
@@SuperMarioAaron64 Maybe Meggy brings them along!
Honestly, all that I would hope SMG4 could do in 2023 is mention more or heck, dare i dream it, show the perma-killed characters more. If you're asking if I just want to see Axol back, not really, I actually want to see Desti back, mostly because I think she has a lot of wasted potential as a character and that SMG4 should give her a 2nd chance, since it feels like she was made only for the Anime arc and that's it
(Also why do I feel like I just said something hella controversial)
I’m from a day in the future. Don’t worry, r/SMG4 is already arguing over it since her death.
They did, but just a cameo in "WESTERN SPAGHETTI"
@@mrjuicejunior
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@@ProbsgonnagetaDMCAbyAdidas
I'm 7 months late but I actually already know TwT
Me and DespacitoBepis seem to be the ones supporting Desti's comeback the most
0:50 they did
SMG4 has actually done a decent amount of these halfway into the year, and I’m glad because some of these were desperately needed
I’d like to see an arc with Chris and Swagmaster
YES
I agree since we really haven't seen much of other characters. I mean we had an ep with Karen which I liked but want more episodes like that.
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You bring up some big points. i hate the bubkins redesign,i love tari and am very sad with how little attention she ever has,and i am also pretty sad about how repetitive the series has been. Sadly,we are only left to hope...
Here's what I want
-Less Mario abuse, and less Manchild Mario (I wouldn't say they're super prevalent but I do think it's a problem)
-Re-Introduce the "Meet The" series as a second Wednesday series (maybe once or twice a month have a video that introduces you to one of the characters)
-A more comedic arc
-WOTFI-less arc
-more character vareity
Man it's August and you predicted a lot of stuff, the re-redesigns, the conclusion of Meggy's student career, Tari development (Grand Theft Mario, Western Spaghetti)
Personally, my hopes are them include that, if they're going to add new OCs, only add in 1-2, limit them to arc debuts, & don't add OCs that are meant to replace the roles of characters from the classic era (looking at YOU Hal Monitor & Wheeler). TBH, I'd rather they give underutilized characters or characters that were originally one offs (Killer Ink for Example) the spotlight instead of making new OCs.
The Lawsuit Arc was far from perfect, but it DID buck the trend of them permanently killing off a character for drama. I hope they do continue that trend. If they DO kill off someone, have it be someone who doesn't serve much of a purpose, but is big enough to make an impact towards some of the main characters, SMG1, SMG2, & Tari fit this category since the former 2 are close to SMG4 & SMG3 while the latter one is close to Saiko (Though, them offing Tari seems less likely).
Don't have an arc drag on for too long, even IF it is high stakes.
Have a movie be self-contained, IE don't have it be a sequel to an arc or part of an arc itself.
More user-submitted content, not just from UA-cam, but from Twitter, Discord, & Reddit. This is outside of the Meme Games & WOTFI, basically stuff like the fan, submitted episode.
I would like them to give other characters the spotlight, especially those in the main cast outside of SMG4, Mario, & Meggy.
Cool it with the trend chasing, ESPECIALLY in what is supposed to be a holiday special or something big like a character's birthday.
Cool it with the redesigns, I have no problem with Tari possibly getting a new look, but they BETTER NOT touch characters like Chris & Swag.
Also, PLEASE TAKE THE CRITICISMS TO HEART, not just on UA-cam, but on Reddit, Twitter, & Discord.
1st who did Hal monitor replace?
2nd yeah don't touch cris and swag BUT if they did I wouldn't murder my whole city
@@Unsmart_pineaplle the recolor cops.
@@ShiningStar5022 oh okay thanks
Really like these points, some more elaboration on cosmology to clear up the retcons would be nifty. I also would like to see them fulfil meggys college character arc, but I hope they will make Mario useful in it and have him and meggy get on as a wholesome duo again not fighting. If they do dispute have something serious and legit and they both make amends. They should definitely give tari and belle some backstory as well.
The one thing I hope we get this year is more consistent writing. The one major gripe I’ve had with SMG4 more recently is that the writers can’t seem to have any sense of consistency with the characters and stories. Lawsuit arc felt undercooked, most of the comedy episodes didn’t really make much sense and most of the jokes would fall flat, and characters like Meggy have consistently inconsistent characterization where one moment they’ll be perfectly in line with their established character and the next they’ll change sides so fast you’d think they have split personality disorder. The redesigns i can live with, the wotfi arc enders I am alright with, I just want the writers to give us better stories, better humour, and to properly write the characters we’ve come to know.
Same. This is probably the best thing anyone could want out of 2023 SMG4.
Really good points.
One thing I’d like to add is more consistency.
Main example being how in one moment, Mario and Meggy are a dynamic duo. The next, they’re at each other’s throats for the dumbest and most mundane reasons.
- And this isn’t even exclusive to them. A lot of characters are also like this.
MACDOONALDS
They call each other siblings for a reason
@@mrjuicejunior
Except:
1. They’re not siblings.
2. Anyone who actually has siblings knows that _that_ isn’t a sibling relationship
@@BoltBlades12 I know they are not actually siblings, they call each other that. Also, I have siblings and I can debunk that, because sometimes we get along and sometimes we fight for no reason.
@@mrjuicejunior
I can debunk your debunk because I have siblings and can confirm we do not act so inconsistently
I have very little hope but it’s still POSSIBLE just extremely unlike that they bring Axol back. Honestly Melony just doesn’t feel the same without him even with all her development. And no her Pet Axol Jr isn’t a “replacement”….,
I do agree.
Ever since Axol left, Melony lost purpose. Especially since Revelations has ended.
There’s literally nothing left for her at this point since she’s already at the peak of her “development”, basically waiting till she gets killed off like so many before her.
@@BoltBlades12 yeah really. I highly doubt it but hopefully Luke and Kevin realize there mistake and bring him back even if they have to get a New VA for him.
@@awesomeocelot7475
A new VA, eh?
_Kek_
Your wishlist of Tari having an arc and getting development became true!
I just hope wotfi 2023 is not in a arc as it was like in the last 3 years
Hot take:I have no problem with ark wotfis I mean it's been happening since the first ark a break would be fine (like from 2019) but if they continued I'd have no problem I feel like that's why they made meme games for your non-wotfi needs but feel free to disagree and I will hold my opinion
Same.
And instead, we should have newer arcs mainly end in Meme Games episodes.
Jokes on you SMG4 has officially gotten insane and is on a live stream for 4 days
The arc adds lore to characters so I am fine with it, I just want something like wotfi that’s just made for entertainment instead of lore
call it the Castle Arc, and the main villain can be a corrupted Princess Peach, she was still in her castle when it was destroyed in Its gonna be perfect
For me my only hopes for 2023 are more screen time of karens kids maybe finish depressos story with clussy and possibly a arc on mario
I 100% agree with you
Dear Cibles,
I hope you can see this comment.
To put it briefly, I am a huge smg4 fan and I want to become an animation youtuber. I will probably start learning Gmod animations after two months.
And before that, I have written a lot of scripts, and some of them maybe can satisfy your wish.
for example:
101 ways to unjam Mario's pingus
If Mario was in meta runner full movie
If Mario was in sunset paradise
Mario's ass stuck in a beach chair
If Mario was in top gun 2
Mario in undertale genocide run (with Tari involved)
Meggy plays cooking simulator
Mario can't help sneezing
(bruh I really wrote too much and there is more)
And an arc that involves "The youtube arc", "The genesis arc", and some UNDERTALE related mini stories (yep ur favorite).
I temporarily named the arc "Timeline corruption"
(To be frank I spent like for the entire three months worling hard thinking and writing the plot, however, as a rookie of a story writer, I think the ending of the story [needs to be improved] or else it would not be that kind of satisfying)
If you see this comment and like this idea, I will be very heppy and want to discuss them with you on discord if possible in the future
That is probably all I want to tell you for now, and I hope you will like this!!!
And of course,
HAPPY NEW YEAR, Cibles!!!!!!
I agree with a few points but I don't agree with the arc part for a few reasons
1. It seems like a bit much for a single arc
2. If we wanna see more development with Chris and Swagmaster, maybe there could be a GNR reboot except with a word that is more PC and accepted by society.
3. Like Saiko and Kaizo, Tari and Belle could have a what I like to call "Mini Arc"
4. As said by @nintendude4287 Meggy's college story could be concluded in SP Season 2
5. I'm getting tired of getting a new arc every year and I just want a nice, clam year where it isn't like "OMFG WE GONNA DIE!!! WE GOTTA KILL THE BAD GUY WITH THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP IN WOTFI!!!!"
Other than that. I agree with your wishlist.
Ayyy! I was mentioned in a comment! You also have some good ideas!
I agree of what you said in number 5. It's really a shame that they just keep taking the same ass route.
I wonder what is the "Avar Project" (the hidden link is at 0:28)
@Arcoute I was wondering the same thing too
All i want for my SMG4 Wishlist is...
1. Focusing on more characters other than Meggy, SMG4 and Mario like Tari, Saiko, Chris, Swag etc
2. Make Mario less childish than he was in How To Train Your Mario and All I Want for Christmas is Mario To FREAKIN BEHAVE First half, No more of this Mario pls
3. Have an Arc focus on Tari or Shroomy and make the arc just as long as between Waluigi Arc and Anime Arc
4. Make WOTFI 2023 a standalone this time more than an another arc ender
5. Less Controversial Videos like in the past years
6. Don't have Mario in every thumbnail or title of the video (especially when he's not the main character)
7. Bring back old series like GNR, Meet the cast, Ssenmodnar and more
and finally
8. No deaths on a main character and i mean no perma-deaths on a main character what's so ever!
Yo That was so cool and awesome
This is the best day ever.
Awesome Wishlist Cibles!!! Happy New Year’s aka 2023!!!
I just really personally think that the fact new SMG4 went crazy on a video,kept working on it and when his Wi-fi went out he attacked Mario's computer.(But i guess he finished it,but he is still crazy about it)And yes,he has been working on that dumb video for 3-4 weeks.And I think that is the beginning of a new arc,what you guys think?
What I wish from SMG4 in 2023:
For him to make his animated characters not I repeat, NOT MOVE LIKE ROBOTS!!! LIKE SERIOUSLY IT MAKES ME SICK!!! I HATE THE WAY SMG4 ANIMATES MEGGY THE WAY I HATE MATH!!! WHAT HAPPENED TO HIS DECENT ANIMATION ON MEGGY BACK IN 2017-2019??? HOW DO WE GO FROM LIFE-LIKE AND GOOD ANIMATION TO ROBOTIC, STIFF, AND LIFELESS ANIMATION!!! HOW, WHY, WHEN, WHERE, AND HOW!!!
Long story short: I hereby ban SMG4 from animating in Henry's Animation Tool FOR LIFE!!! THAT'S HOW BAD I HATE HIS ANIMATION WORK!!! (not on the Glitch shows, just in Gmod in general).
Calm down its gmod its dose that yes i seen alot
The Avar Project
Something disastrous has happened. I'm writing this down in an entry to get my thoughts together.
As I left home from work a couple days ago, Grace asked me to come in for an important business meeting. She stated that she wanted to take the "next big step" in the Avar Project. So I called my wife and told her that I'll be home a little late. She understood and so I went to visit Grace.
Grace told me that she met with someone named Morfran. Morfran was a scientist who studied all forms of plants and animals with an interest in astrology. He stated that he found the Avar Project online. He wants to take co-ownership of it. He believed that the project can benefit his studies. He promised that if we let him take co-ownership, he could provide $200,000 to further the Avar Project.
Grace didn't want to make a decision without my consent, as I was her best friend and essentially the co-owner. I was very cautious at making this decision so I asked Grace if I could meet with Morfran. She agreed.
Today I didn't go to work, I was in a meeting all day waiting for Morfran to show up. He never did. Grace was confused as she did ask Morfran to go to the meeting and he did promise to be here. We waited for hours and hours. Eventually, we grew tired of waiting and I went back home for the night.
However, before I went to sleep, I wanted to see if I could find any research on Morfran. I asked Grace for his last name over text. She stated his last name was "Morfran Diggory". I tried Googling it and did as much research as I could. Over the next two days, I called to many different places, asking to see if I could find information about someone named Morfran Diggory.
Morfran Diggory... isn't a real person.
By the time I found this out, I tried contacting Grace about it. However, she had already signed the business deal. Morfran now owns 88% of the project.
I have a dark feeling in the pit of my stomach
0:27
“A thing that has happened just different and better”
SMG4: SMG4 goes insane
SMG4: it’s gonna be perfect
hope that Melony shows up to watch Meggy graduate
I also think that maybe there should be an episode where at night Loaf and Axol Jr sneak out to hang out like how Gary and Spot from Spongebob did
me when I see an inconspicuous link appear at 0:27
2:11 they did
0:28 what
Image if the next arc was like the gensis or revolations where Axol returned (And since meta runner is over why is Tari's voice just *Random Tari noises* since Meggy, SMG4,SMG3 and sometimes SMG1 and SMG2 have new voices when a video is made.)
Bro why no one is talking about the secret link🤨🤨🤨🤨🤔🤔🤔🤔😑😑😑😑😐😐😐😐😶😶😶😶
All I hope is for WOFTI 2023 To he Perfect :(.... I hope they bring back Old SMG4/3 designs :(
For me:
More unexpected partnerships, like Swagmaster and Shroomy, Karen and Luigi, Kaizo and Bob...
Fixing Mario and Meggy's friendship (in a realistic way)
That's applies Bob and Boopkins' friendship too.
Personally I hate Meggy has a character, she can be annoying, she can’t decide what path to take e.x. Lawyer, officer, etc. her character is just so screwed up and it makes her bad
I agreed with you actually meggy becoming the main character during and after the lawsuit arc the others characters a literally forgotten like shroomy or chris and swag and a lot that s kinda sad for smg4 meggy it s just here for the simper
I just want a Luigi arc that’s really it or just more Luigi character development I think he’s the most wasted character in the SMG4 Series being Mario’s brother like YOU COULD MAKE HIM A VILLAIN *cough cough Mr L cough because he feels he’s in Mario’s shadow *literally luigi* and cough* have him go on a training arc because he feels he hasn’t helped and not coming back intel he’s stronger maybe just look maybe look into what makes Luigi tic in some way and why he’s just kinda chill and doesn’t get jealous
I know the second and third overlap but behsjsjskdn idc
Have a arc we’re Mario and gets captured again in some way and maybe luigi could step up even tho he’s scared
do anything wIth LUIGI *PLEASE LIKE JSYT LET MAGE THAISI*
I won't to see new characters
DK the monkey to join the smg4 chew
Returning characters from the dead or forgotten characters
And Maybe redesigns of them
Tari's backstory
And 👁️ 0:27
I want meggy college arc to be named the graduation arc
My idea: Ark about the very beginnings of the God Box, the birth of ZER0.before he releases chaos on earth.
2:08 The 2022 Christmas special confirms that the Meggy College arc will conclude this year (I REALLY hope that’s the case).
I want them to make an ark about zstar.
Zstar just disappeared years ago and everybody forgot
0:26 slow the video down to 0.25 there is a link there it goes to something called the avar project i wont be telling anything about it here so go see for yourself (there are capitalized letters those are V,K and L)
yoo you got eome stuff, redesigns got some stuff changed, smg4 and 3 were more of the main character in the 'insanity arc' (close enough to an arc) and hopefully they do other stuff
I just hope that Wotfi 2023 won't be included as the End of an Arc.
I'm kinda getting tired of it
They might address that by making WOTFI the penultimate video of the arc & have it end on a cliffhanger.
I want more LOOOOOORRRRRREEEE I want to be the Matpat of smg4
Uh….. hey? Why nobody talking about the hidden link?
My wish is if Mario was in BFB/TPOT SMG4 episode.
i woild like to see a arc with some great evil turn mario evil and being manulited by a greater evil a plot where the villain is from another unvierse and jealous because they have mario and not them they kidnapp mario and brainwash him to be one of them on their side and smg4 and others must save mario their friend and stop them to take over the unvierse and meggy must face a dobbleganger at they like evil version of meggy and others😀😀😀
Wishlist:
Honestly, i'm hoping that MxM becomes canon in the SMGVERSE even just for a short time since it would be nice to see all of the haters stupid faces when they see it. I'm not saying that I ship Mario and Meggy, but when the haters convince that Mario x Meggy is "illegal" it's super annoying how they convince it! Saying that Mario is "too old" to be shipped even though the canon age is 24 and Meggy's age is 20! The haters are all just a bunch of 5-year olds anyway.
Oh wow that was kind of controversial ngl.
A relationship with mario and meggy
Not in love ship or no ship
The new smg4 video hints at an arc
One of mine is a epoluge of shorts to the cosmology lore
I like to see an episode where the SMG4 gang goes on a airplane trip but Mario like misbehaves on the plane
If Mario was in Sonic Frontiers
IS NO ONE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE LINK IN THE VIDEO
The number 1 thing i want is a new nuisance villain. (what SMG3 was before he joined the main cast) A villain who shows up to cause trouble for 1 episode about 3 or 4 times a year. A villain to cause trouble 4 the cast, gets beat down and comes back later.
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I have come from the future so far to say that we are getting a movie bloopkins is got a better redesign and SMG4 SMG3 and Maggie get revamps also SMG4 becomes insane and becomes the antagonist
The war of the fat Italians 2023...
Also i. Want to see: Smg0
Smg6 Smg7 And On
my wishlist:
- some of the old smg4 serieses to return like super pokemans 64, sonic the derphog and wacky wario bros.
- another mario simulator
- wotfis that are like 2017 and older. Not wotfis that end an random arc.
@CiblesYT, what is with that bitly link that came up on screen for second?
It's the avar project an arg
Hey CiblesYT I'm gonna make SMG4 Videos with Garry's Mod and make awesome adventures with not only the SMG4 Boys but also the SMG4 Girls as well and not only that but I'm also gonna make Special SMG4 Videos called "Jordan Middendorp: War Of The Great Jordans" cuz it's like SMG4's War Of The Fat Italians with rap battle except the battle part is gonna be a heavy metal battle cuz it's based on Battle Of The Bands and it'll be very cool and very awesome that I'll get into that. and also just a question: if I do the textures for the Saiko Model in the way I wanted to in Garry's Mod, when it comes to make SMG4 Videos with Garry's Mod, then would it actually work?
I mean this 0:28
Didn't you say that you wanted the next arc to be more light-hearted? How do you do that while also fixing all these plotholes?
I kinda wanna see like very old obscure characters that appeared in old videos reappear! Even like a small camio! I'm not talking about like the very old Mario recolour UA-camrs I don't think it would be right to throw them in there without their permission (X & FM are obvious exceptions) but like characters who appeared in one maybe more episode's and never did again! Like idk Slenderman, the bully's um... Uh hm uh yeah that's all I have but you get what I mean!
What about pepsi,crazy toilet dude and admiral S.Swipe?
Killer Ink?
@@ShiningStar5022 crazy toilet dude and Killer ink leader teaming up like a evil parallel to Mario and Meggy
@@mega6662 Crazy.....Toilet.....Dude?
@@ShiningStar5022 he was a very old and I mean extremely old smg4 villain from the first seasons,he was a totally black Mario (except for the golden buttons, brown hair and normal eyes) he had 7 participations through all the show
The first five being about him:
•Blowing up the White House
•Stealing smg4 account (before smg3 did)
•Taking over peaches castle by defeating the entire first cast by himself
•Killing many old cast members to shape shift into them to infiltrate the castle, while Being smg3 mercenary
•And being one of the original members of the anti cast
He then made small cameos through the years (even in the 10th year anniversary) but disappeared and hasn’t made a important appearance in a decade
Also he’s named “crazy toilet dude” because he lacks a actual name. Because of that he has 4 different names on the wiki each treating it like a different character even though they all act the same and have the same design, just because he lacked a name (He even changed name mid video once)
He’s basically a evil Mario able to shapeshift and teleport but instead of being obsessed with spaghetti, he’s obsessed with Toilets
He’s last relevant appearance was a sketch of him fighting Mario in a epic 1v1 till the police guy’s arrested both of them because crazy toilet guy destroyed a police car by accident
So I think is fitting for the forgotten pseudo anti of Mario to be the friend of the only evil inkling which was also forgotten
(Also he got a legacy render for the wiki)
What i wish for:
-Kaizo Arc
-Tari Origin Arc
-a second Boopkins redesign (Jesus Christ, that current model is awful!)
To follow your point on the newer episode being very similar, I'd like to rant a bit
The animation sure looks better (except for boopkins because screw his redesign) but all of the originality that made the old episodes good is now long gone and it is starting to looks more like a youtube kid show than anything else
But I guess this was bound to happen at some point because with the creation of glitch production everything became ever so slowly more corporate-like and the old very amateur but passionate charm the serie had dissapeared
Every episode now looks almost exactly the same as the big layer of randomness is almost completely gone, and the more sentimental parts really ruin the vibe of what smg4 was supposed to be
Sure it can be serious but it was really generally badly executed, especially in the lawsuit arc, which was WAY too short for its plotline
To conclude I'd really like if they could bring back the creativity that they had, and experiment with ideas and concepts, a bit like some old videos which had completely original throwaway characters (like the toad rangers for example). It would give us a break from the main and secondary cast and allows for a really big breathing room for experimentations (thought I'm not sure the new animation standards would allows the making of those throwaway character anymore)
I guess Uzi will be part of the Next Arc and Some new characters will be part of the Smg4 series.
With that maybe the next arc villain is literally an evil SMG4 fanboy or something trying to fix everything. And I imagine that they are literally some sort of Mother Brain esk design or something on the lines of Fecto Forgo or even Jergingha from Wonderful 101. Maybe the whole idea of a real life fan taking it too far and even wanting to kill the real SMG4 and replacing him.
I really want for the next arc ! A very powerful smg4 villain ! Like thanos in marvel endgame ! But a very strength villain like thanos !
You know you said the thing about tari having a character evolution and i thought it would be great if they did that but with the meme games 2023 if there is one it would also be great if she got a redesingn
Well Cibles, after hearing all your wants for SMG4 I think that the fan-made “Veritas Arc” created by “No Null” is right up your alley! It is actually a continuation of the cosmology lore following the events of “Revelations”. It starts out a bit rough because the creator was just a beginner at the time, but as it continues it becomes very impressive! Plz check it out when you have the time it is CRIMINALLY underrated!
I actually remember Kevin mentioning in a video on the Hobo Bros channel (can't remember the name of it sadly), that they were going to dedicate more episodes towards different characters rather than Mario be the focus all the time. Shortly after that they did that with Meggy... and then... never again sadly :(
This is the message that you get when you type in the link when it glitches Something disastrous has happened. I'm writing this down in an entry to get my thoughts together.
As I left home from work a couple days ago, Grace asked me to come in for an important business meeting. She stated that she wanted to take the "next big step" in the Avar Project. So I called my wife and told her that I'll be home a little late. She understood and so I went to visit Grace.
Grace told me that she met with someone named Morfran. Morfran was a scientist who studied all forms of plants and animals with an interest in astrology. He stated that he found the Avar Project online. He wants to take co-ownership of it. He believed that the project can benefit his studies. He promised that if we let him take co-ownership, he could provide $200,000 to further the Avar Project.
Grace didn't want to make a decision without my consent, as I was her best friend and essentially the co-owner. I was very cautious at making this decision so I asked Grace if I could meet with Morfran. She agreed.
Today I didn't go to work, I was in a meeting all day waiting for Morfran to show up. He never did. Grace was confused as she did ask Morfran to go to the meeting and he did promise to be here. We waited for hours and hours. Eventually, we grew tired of waiting and I went back home for the night.
However, before I went to sleep, I wanted to see if I could find any research on Morfran. I asked Grace for his last name over text. She stated his last name was "Morfran Diggory". I tried Googling it and did as much research as I could. Over the next two days, I called to many different places, asking to see if I could find information about someone named Morfran Diggory.
Morfran Diggory... isn't a real person.
By the time I found this out, I tried contacting Grace about it. However, she had already signed the business deal. Morfran now owns 88% of the project.
I have a dark feeling in the pit of my stomach.
It's honestly unlikely but I do hope they can overthrow the Anime Arc.
I hope there a video where SMG4 needs to convince FM and X that he is the real SMG4
hi there youtuber underrune player with randomness and everything cibles
Cibles the smg4 new video
if you watched it does it seem that door that the aliens are worshipping
might turn into an arc?
lol imagine a smg-1
and it looks like theres a new monster in space that came from a door make a theory out of it
It's just a kingdom hearts reference.
@@Swagpionohh ok
I honestly like smg4! But he will come back on 2 weeks! 🥲
one thing id like is shroomy development .he has a deep backstory so development for him would make sence
Less meggy
And I want to see more of the old style videos.
I think she forgot to say a WOTFIless arc.
Imagine if the WOTFI was the start of an Arc and it followed the basic Mario VS SMG4 formula from 2011.
0:27 umm... what was that?
0:28 the hell does this lead to
It leads to something called The Avar Project.
what is that bitly link?
hmmm the avar project?
I have a friend who’s a firm believer Tari and Meggy could be a “Thing”. I think its possible honestly, given how they seem best of friends already and Mario and Meggy share more of a brother and sister relationship.
i think id prefer even meggy and tari honestly
0:28 did anyone see the link
If we do get an arc about the end of meggy's collage career then there is a chance that shadow meggy might return however idk who would be the main antagonist if we have an arc about tari though
I've got a bad feeling that Mario's going to ruin Meggy's graduation, and then she's gonna get pissed off with him about it.
0:28 any reason for that weird avar project link???
@RylishZaliou12 what is an arg
New arc for this year
A non-arc wotfi
My smg4 wish list:
Stop posting cringe content
Stop making original characters
Stop with the stupid story arcs
Make good videos again
Get rid of all the original characters
Fr old smg4 > new smg4 his content isn't even entertaining anymore
Smg4 IS an og character-
My guy forgot that smg4 is now an original character:/
0:15 I miss her so much😭
She ain't dead don't worry
You're not the only one
Yo skedadudlers
I would love to see an arc about tari!
That's basically meta runner in a different universe
What I'd hope for the future of SMG4 is listed below (not 2023, the future)
1.Balance out the use of Gmod and N64
2.Give the classic characters such as Bowser, Toad, Yoshi, Peach, Wario, Waluigi, X, FM, Ben, Chris, SwagMaster69, the animatronics, Starman (with a replacement voice actor / person), and the most lovable character in the series Steve main and major roles in the series and have them be a part of group activities.
3. Make Peach less angry more supportive like she use to be.
4.Change SMG4, Smg3, Bob, and Fishy Boopkins (and possibly all the recolors) back to their old selves (for an everlasting time). It's highly unlikely that Nintendo would cause problems for SMG4. Some people are still calling Spikes and Garos in current Nintendo games Fishy Boopkins and Bob. Doing the redesigns at the end of WOFTI 2022 was actually taking away John Wick's puppy.
5.Have Arcs not always end in WOFTI's.
I'm retired from watching new videos. But changes can be great to have.
And I do agree with you on Tari needing a storyarc about her