A point about 1 Peter 3:21 I don't know why translators choose to translate επερώτημα as ANSWER when it means the *opposite* but they did. It means "a request, a beseeching, a begging" (who? God, for a cleansed conscience)
If you don’t want to be shocked on judgment day, BE HUMBLE, BE TEACHABLE and ask the LORD to “open your mind” so that you can truly understand the Scriptures (Luke 24:45-> “Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures…”)
I found this message to be very meaningful and helpful to understand and truly appreciate the importance of baptism... Jesus said to John the Baptist (when John protested against baptizing Jesus); "it must needs be so to fulfill all righteousness"... Thanks for the message brother!
Thank you, David. May God and Christ bless you along with your family. For His Glory, God is giving you insight and using you to nourish us spiritually. This is real spiritual food. Awaiting for more. Have heard most of your topics again and again. Always fresh and current. This one on baptism opened my mind to Bible Truth. Again God bless. Amador from Puerto Rico, Kingdom Christian.
- Baptism shows a good conscience toward God / The Apostle Peter clearly confirms, "baptism doth also now save us" 1 Peter 3.21. - Baptism washes away sins Acts 22.16 - Baptism gives entry "into" Christ Romans 6.3; Galatians 3.27. - Jesus, our authority, made baptism necessary when he gave the command in Mark 16.16. In other words, our sins are not washed away, and we are not "in Christ" until we are baptized. - Since baptism is for the forgiveness of sins (Acts 2.38), we are still in our sins (and lost) until we are baptized. - We should also realize that baptism is a burial or immersion--not sprinkling Romans 6.3-4 and baptism is for believers, not infants Mark 16.16. - Many folks say "we aren't saved by works!" Yet, is baptism a work? It is a work of God Colossians 2.12. Jesus says belief is a work too John 6.29. James says we must have faith plus works James 2.14-26, note verse 24. We are saved by the mercy and grace of God, but He demands we be baptized to wash away our sins. He does the work through His Son's blood if we follow His instructions.
@@PresidentChristopher the blood of Christ is appropriated on the repentant sinner through baptism in water by faith. Baptism in water is a command, not a choice. No faith in this no forgiveness of sins or the gift of the Holy Spirit Acts2:38, 22:16, Gal 3:27.
@@ktmlifer Well, Cornelius and his bunch received the Holy Ghost and AFTERWARDS Peter asked them, "Who can forbid water that these should be baptized which have received the Spirit, as well as we?"
There were probably thousands of people who received John’s baptism but died before Jesus started the new covenant by dying on the cross for our sins, which means they died before the new covenant took effect. Are they forgiven? I would believe so ❤🙏🏽😇🔥
What is important is -humbly before the Lord-“what is the Holy Spirit telling YOU?” What Peter taught me is “You need to repent (change your mind about the way you look at the world and begin to see all things from the perspective of Immanuel; and turn away from your sins, the things that pollute your conscience) and be immersed in water. When you do this in faith, your sins will be washed away, you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit, and become a member of Gods family and a citizen of the kingdom of God on this earth, until God takes you home to paradise and eternal life in heaven.”
@LuisJLouJackMartinez----- I quote your comment; “You need to repent (change your mind about the way you look at the world and begin to see all things from the perspective of Immanuel; and turn away from your sins, the things that pollute your conscience"). I respectfully disagree to your defining the word "to repent" and the more precise is to feel or express sincere regret or remorse about one's wrongdoing or sin. I don't see any teaching that an unregenerate person have the power "to turn away from your sins" that man has the problem of sin and has no power in and of himself to deliver himself from this problem of sin. He is separated from God thus he has no power to do so. FYI No unbeliever, no unregenerate person, can turn from sin because they can do no good (Rom. 3:10-12), are slaves of sin (Rom. 6:14-20), cannot receive or understand spiritual things (1 Cor. 2:14), are at enmity with God (Eph. 2:15), love darkness rather than light (John 3:19), cannot come to God on their own (John 6:44, 65), are dead in their sins (Eph. 2:1), and are at enmity with God (Eph. 2:15). Because of the condition of the unregenerate, we must conclude that they are unable to do what is right . Any comments, please. Thank you.
David Bercot , You presented the truth concerning water baptism. The blood of Jesus Christ forgives our sin in water baptism. If a person has rightly repented and rightly believed. Yet the influence of Protestantism is so profound in annabaptism , that your biblical view of baptism has been replaced by the anxious bench or alter call by Charles Finney. Thankyou for sound doctrine.
At 12 minutes, David quotes Acts 2:38-39 which the translation he read translated a word τεκνα (tekna) that does NOT mean children but it means *offspring* or *descendents* . There is no age defined in this word, but the English word "children" does convey a young age. Therefore the translated word is misleading, fanning into flame the error of baptizing children.
@Girma ZaGondar "what is offspring if not children?" ...you asked. Me, I am the offspring of my father. I am 55 years old. ἐγὼ εἰμὶ τέκνον τοῦ πατρὸς μου κάγω οὐκετὶ παιδίον ἤ βρέφος ἤ παῖς εἰμί. In English, the word "child" we cease to be as we age. But in ancient Greek, the τέκνον of the parents, he or she *NEVER* ceases to be. It is translated this way because as we see in the gospels how powerful tradition can be over truth, so is the case here. It was translated this way due to state church errored tradition and influence. The William Tyndales of the world must stand for truth, and persuade the blind to open their eyes.
@ገሩም ትዎድሮስ The oldest christisn writings we have outside of the NT are the Ante Nicene Fathers (ANF). They date from arguably 60 to 80 AD until before the Council of Nicea (hence the name)... 325 AD. Volume 1 and 2 is most of the oldest ones dating until about 200 AD or so. I have read these sooo many times anddon't see what you are saying to be recorded in them. In fact, Tertullian (205 AD) wrote in his writing on Baptism urging to post pone the baptism of children since they are not ready to handle the heavy responsibility with having the Holy Spirit.
@@jesusstudentbrettTertullian objected to what appears to have been the newly-introduced practice of paedobaptism because, not only were infants innocent but they were also incapable of ‘coming’ of their own volition (cf. Matthew 19:13-14; Mark 10:13-15; Luke 18:15-17) to express faith or to confess or repent from any supposed sins ( _On Baptism,_ 18). Instead, Tertullian argued, baptism was to be preceded by prayer, fasting, night-long vigils, and the confession of all past sins ( _On Baptism,_ 20). Children's supposed inability to "handle the heavy responsibility with having the Holy Spirit", whatever you mean by that, had nothing to do with it.
@@SoundFaithChannelwhat type of church should I look for ? in my area closest to these beliefs is church of Christ wich I’m ok with I disagree w very little w them. All anabaptist churches in my area say they believe baptism is merely a symbol alone
@@unknown-zy6dp That's a tough question to answer. David Bercot addresses it here: scrollpublishing.com/products/audio-finding-fellowship-in-the-21st-century/
@@SoundFaithChannel thank you so much wish I was near y’all lol I’ve been struggling with this stuff for awhile being raised baptist originally. Been trying to find answers for years this channel is a blessing
At the 40 minute point where the question came about "ongoing sin and cleansing", consider what the apostles said: 1 Peter 4 1 SINCE therefore Christ SUFFERED in the flesh, ➡arm yourselves with THE SAME way of thinking, ⬅ ⚠for whoever has suffered in the flesh has STOPPED sinning, ☡ 2so as to live for the rest of the time in the flesh no longer for human passions but for the will of God. 3For the time that is past suffices for doing what the Gentiles want to do, living in sensuality, passions, drunkenness, orgies, drinking parties, and lawless idolatry. ➡4 With respect to this they are surprised when you do not join them in the same flood of debauchery,⬅ and they malign you; 5 but they will give account to him who is ready to judge the living and the dead. 6For this is why the gospel was preached even to those who are dead, that though judged in the flesh the way people are, they might live in the spirit the way God does. 7The end of all things is at hand; ➡therefore BE self-controlled and sober-minded ⬅ for the sake of your prayers. 8Above all, keep loving one another earnestly, ➡since love covers a multitude of sins. ⬅ 9 Show hospitality to one another without grumbling. 1 John 3 3 And everyone who thus hopes in him purifies himself as he is pure. 4 Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness. 5You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. 6No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. 7Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. 8Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. 9No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’sb seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. 10By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother.
Good question. We as a congregation immerse three times because we have observed that some patristics practiced three times in the Pre-Nicene Christian writings. In no way would we say that being immersed once was invalid. I was only immersed once. Also it is the custom passed down from generation to generation of many churches including ours.
@@SoundFaithChannel Matthew 28:19 Jesus said "dipping them in the name of the father, dipping them in the name of the son, and dipping them in the name of the spirit that is holy." This is why the early church dipped the baptismal candidate three times.
@@jesusstudentbrett What translation or Greek text are you using? The Greek that I find on Biblehub does not say "dipping" or baptism three times, only once.
I am using my own translation, speaking, reading and writing in Koine Greek. Admittedly it was the early church speaking this way in vivid descriptions of baptizing ceremony that got me considering this 10 years ago. I started studying NT Greek in late 2015, began the spoken method with Polis Institute in an 8 week immersion in 2016, just return last year from Jerusalem 2 years immersed in school speaking, reading and writing Koine Greek. I now recognize the Greek practice that rightfully should be translated "dipped" 3 times....Father, Son, HS. English can do it to for example: The man bought the book, the bread, and the socks. Means : The man BOUGHT the book, he BOUGHT the bread and he BOUGHT the socks.
Thank you for this video. I was baptized in high school, but for a dumb reason (not really obedience - rather, to copy my girlfriend) and didn't really understand the significance of it. I didn't repent either. I went off to college out-of-state, got entangled in more and more sin, until last year I got a big wake-up call and realized I needed to get serious and get right with God. I instantly stopped a bunch of sins, started reading my Bible consistently every day, praying, etc. Now, I just want to follow and obey and worship Jesus for the rest of my life (and beyond, I hope!). As of late, after much research I've come to the understanding that baptism is for the remission of sins, and is a necessary part of salvation. Is there still hope for me? Should I get baptized again now that I am really seeking to be obedient to Christ? Or was my first baptism valid (I kind of hope it wasn't; I'm ashamed of it)? I worry that if it *was* valid and I wasn't aware, that perhaps I've sinned too much since then and cannot be forgiven... :(
So glad to hear about this, Billy! It's wonderful to know that you are following Jesus. We believe that a person only needs to be baptized once if they are baptized in Jesus' name as believers. In most cases people don't need to be baptized again, but maybe in your case you do. Feel free to reach out to us at soundfaithchannel@gmail.com if you'd like to discuss this more. You don't need to fear that you have sinned too much. If you are bearing good fruit and are walking by the Spirit, that means you are of God. Those who are beyond help do not bear good fruit or walk by the Spirit. Scripture makes this clear. -Lynn
For more context, Bercot is not saying baptism alone saves. I think what he is saying is, true faith leads to baptism -the biblical way of professing faith. We dont simply profess faith through a private prayer and were off on our own. This completes the process of conversion. This is not so different from a correct baptist view of baptism. There is a spiritual significance in the act, through the belief and repentance of the individual by grace. I dont think David denies the salvation of believers who dies before getting baptized. This is what the Romanists get wrong, that led them to practice infant baptism.
@KadenGreen-eg1cz I've only seen one instance to where the Holy Spirit was given to believers, as far as I knew, before water baptism. Not long after I recieved the Holy Spirit ,a sermon was finished in my church and the pastor said that all those wanting to be anointed with oil and prayed for to line up. As the people lined up I saw that there was several children in line with their mothers. None of them appeared to be over 6 or 7 years old. When the first little boy stepped in front of the pastor the pastor anointed him with oil and layed hands on him. Immediately the boy crumpled to the floor and lie there speaking in tongues. Before I knew it several children were laying on the floor speaking in tongues. As a baby in Christ myself I asked my self how it was possible that they hadn't been baptized and yet recieved the Holy Spirit. In later years I realized that water baptism is for the remission of sins. Remission of sins is the removal of the guilt from wilful sin. The children had no guilt to be removed.
"Jesus wouldn't have had to be crucified had we not sinned." Did we FORCE Jesus to go the cross, or did God and Christ agree to this? If Jesus agreed to this, according to the will of God, how do WE crucify Jesus? GOD sent Jesus to the cross.
I have a question @SoundFaithChannel . What about people who repent and believe the Gospel on their deathbed? What about people who were beptized, but thought it was just a symbol? Does thst still count? Thanks!!
@nathanleameister7179 Good question. We have the example of the thief on the cross to show us that, when there's no possibility of following God's command, God doesn't hold it against us. He's very merciful. So those who repent on their deathbed can be saved. And though we believe baptism is more than a symbol, Scripture doesn't teach that it's what we believe about baptism that makes it efficacious. If someone was baptized with the intention of giving their life to Christ, we consider that a real baptism. -Lynn
Nope, the person had every opportunity to repent and be baptized into Christ by faith in His remission of sins. It’s not Gods fault the sinner didn’t respond quickly as the first Christian’s did.
Exodus 2:10 And the child grew, and she brought him unto Pharaoh's daughter, and he became her son. And she called his name Moses: and she said, Because I drew him out of the water.
Thanks so much for this excellent teaching. I have a question. Do we receive a new heart and mind in baptism or is regeneration/the conversion experience at a different occasion? Thanks so much.
32:57 "....and I guess afterwards we'll be laying hands on you to receive the Holy Spirit". Do you think that's what happened on the day of Pentecost? It's Jesus that gives the Holy Spirit.
We don't quite understand everything about how the Holy Spirit works, but we just live by faith and do what we see in the New Testament. Biblically Jesus seems to give the Holy Spirit to those who have: Repented and been baptized Acts 2:38-39 38 Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the [k]remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call.” Who have Faith Galatians 3:13-14 13 Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree”), 14 that the blessing of Abraham might come upon the Gentiles in Christ Jesus, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. Who Obay Acts 5:32 32 And we are His witnesses to these things, and so also is the Holy Spirit whom God has given to those who obey Him.” Jesus sometimes gives the Holy Spirit to people when praying and at laying on of the Hands normally after baptism Acts 8:14-17 14 Now when the apostles who were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent Peter and John to them, 15 who, when they had come down, prayed for them that they might receive the Holy Spirit. 16 For as yet He had fallen upon none of them. They had only been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 17 Then they laid hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit. Sometimes before Baptism Acts 10 44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who heard the word. 45 And [o]those of the circumcision who believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues and magnify God. Then Peter answered, 47 “Can anyone forbid water, that these should not be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?” 48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then they asked him to stay a few days. Here is Another good example Acts 19 And it happened, while Apollos was at Corinth, that Paul, having passed through the upper regions, came to Ephesus. And finding some disciples 2 he said to them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?” So they said to him, “We have not so much as heard whether there is a Holy Spirit.” 3 And he said to them, “Into what then were you baptized?” So they said, “Into John’s baptism.” 4 Then Paul said, “John indeed baptized with a baptism of repentance, saying to the people that they should believe on Him who would come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.” 5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6 And when Paul had laid hands on them, the Holy Spirit came upon them, and they spoke with tongues and prophesied. 7 Now, the men were about twelve in all.
@@SoundFaithChannel If you think it is unclear how the Lord administers the Holy Spirit, I hope this explanation will show you there is consistency: I agree that baptism is essential because we hear the gospel that saves being preached (death, burial, resurrection) for the first time at Pentecost; the crowd responds asking what they must do, and 3,000 accepted it and were baptised and added to the number of the saved (added by The Lord, who builds his Church - Acts 2:47, Matt 16:18). Peter at Cornelius's house had to think all the way back to the beginning (Pentecost) for the last time he had seen the spirit falling on anyone (Acts 11:5) and even then it was not the same here as there was no sound of rushing wind. It was a sign to Peter that God was doing something unthinkable to the Jews. It had nothing to do with normative conversion. If the Holy Spirit's action here was salvific, then they were saved before they were baptised; therefore baptism would not be for salvation but for the sake of obedience. But given the importance of their conversion (first among the Gentiles) it would need to be normative. But in fact the Ephesian disciples of John (Acts 19) clarifies that the Holy Spirit (indwelling) is received as promised (Acts 2:38) in baptism. When Paul learned they had not received the Holy Spirit, he asked "then what baptism did you receive?" And so they were baptised into the name of the Lord Jesus so that through that baptism they would receive the Holy Spirit. It was after they were baptised that Paul laid hands on them for the imparting of miraculous gifting (which only an apostle could do. see Acts 8:18). As with the Samarians, the laying on of apostles hands was for the imparting of the miraculous measure of the Holy Spirit (not salvific) and a sign of God's acceptance of these peoples and to help the gospel be preached amongst them by these converts.
@@ChristisSaviour This verse below makes me slow to act as if I know precisely when the Holy Spirit does His work. I was not saying that He does not come during baptism I was saying there is evidence that He is not controlled by us. I was under the impression that you thought we believed we could do the imparting of the Holy Spirit. “Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”” John 3:5-8 NKJV www.bible.com/114/jhn.3.5-8.nkjv
I’ve read almost all of Mr. Bercot’s books and like him, I’m trying very hard to emulate my walk with God the same way as the first century Christians. Can Mr. Bercot clarify what he meant by his statement, “baptism by pouring on of water over your head”? My understanding about water baptism according to scriptures have always been full water immersion. When Jesus were baptized by John the Baptist, it stated that he got up, out of the water (Mark 1:10). Also, the Ethiopia Eunuch stopped to get baptized when he came across some water (Act8:36-37). If pouring water over one’s head was an acceptable method, then he wouldn’t have had to wait until he saw water to get baptized. He would have done it at any point before that since they mostly had some water with them in the chariot. Please clarify…😊
@Al Kao Great question. The preferred method in the early church was definitely to immerse. However, we know that they also considered pouring and sprinkling to be valid too, although they only practiced those methods when necessary. Just read the Didache to read the early view on the topic. www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/didache-roberts.html -Lynn
@@SoundFaithChannel Thank you for your reply! According to the Didache, pouring on of water baptism was acceptable in the early churches but it doesn't seem to be a common practice for the early church. This method of baptism is found nowhere in the canonized Bible. Why would your church choose this method of baptism? Don't you think this would cause confusion to anyone that's not familiar with the Didache article? Sincerely, Al
@Al Kao Scripture doesn't specify the mode of baptism. If it did, we would certainly follow that. It does seem most likely that baptisms in the New Testament were immersions, so we do that. However, in cases where someone was baptized by pouring, we don't rebaptize them, because Scripture doesn't say that that isn't sufficient. The Didache helps clarify that that was the apostolic practice as the early Christians understood it, so we're comfortable with people who use other modes. Does that make sense? -Lynn
Hello! David Bercot. What about the theif on the cross next to Jesus? Do we know in the scriptures that the theif was exempt from baptism that he is saved? Or what did the early christians say about that in the books you read? Are there videos of yours I can see that will help to answer these questions? Thank you for understanding this video.
@user-xg2ge3eb1u That's a very good question. We would recognize that God is free to act in special ways whenever exceptional circumstances arise, so the thief could be saved without baptism. I don't know what the early Christians thought about the thief on the cross, but I do know that the early Christians talked about the "baptism of blood," where martyrs who were executed before they were baptized were in a way baptized by the shedding of their own blood. -Lynn
You might find this article by Baptist scholar Robert Stein quite refreshing as it supports your view. It is my own position as it seems to make the best sense out of all the relevant texts and the historical context: d3pi8hptl0qhh4.cloudfront.net/media/publications/sbjt/sbjt_1998spring2.pdf
Why are so many churches so insistent on downplaying baptism when the word of God just seems so clear in and of itself? Satan is very good at his job we need to pray for people to stop fighting against what the bible says.
True baptism now is the baptism John Spoke of that was coming.....The baptism of the Holy Spirit. Which happens when someone hears the word of the Lord and believes on it!
@@SoundFaithChannel We are not saved by baptism in water, but by baptism of the spirit. I hold the belief that Jesus meant : living waters" in that verse and not physical water, which is mentioned other times in the Bible as the Holy Spirit.
Got to stick with the scriptures. Baptism was in water. From Acts 2, where Peter insisted -“Repent and be baptized” to Peter in his epistle insisting that just as Noah was saved through water, so “baptism now saves you”, it was always referring to water baptism. It is now water and Spirit, as JN 3 teaches.
This is a truth that the protestants' tragically miss and that is that our faith must be demonstrated in order for us to recieve from God. This isn't "works",it is our faith in action. When it comes to salvation after we believe and choose to repent, our repentance must be demonstrated by water baptism in order to recieve remission of sins. Then we must ask the Lord for the Holy Spirit infilling until He answers our prayer and does so. Then, having recieved the Holy Spirit we must surrender our tongue to the Holy Spirit until He enables us to speak in the spiritual language that the Word calls "tongues". This is to confirm to ourselves and those praying for us that we have recieved the Holy Spirit just as they did. That's how, in Acts ch.10, that Peter and the disciples with him knew that the gentiles had also recieved the Holy Spirit. Peter said,"Can any man forbid baptism to.these who have recieved the Holy Spirit just as we did"( Acts 10:47). How did they know ? Because they spoke in " tongues". This is the equivalent of a newborn babies cries in the delivery room alerting all present that a baby has been born.
Is he saying that something supernatural happens when you r immersed in the water when you are a true believer? You receive the holy spirit when you r baptized in the water? Please share if I am understanding right.
@Antonia Schiffer David is saying that God chooses to wash away our sins and give us the Holy Spirit when we are baptized in the water. The water itself can do nothing, but when we are baptized because of our faith in God, God supernaturally cleanses us at our baptism. Does that make sense? -Lynn
@@SoundFaithChannel Then David is wrong because true baptism now is the baptism John Spoke of that was coming after him.....The baptism of the Holy Spirit. Which happens when someone hears the word of the Lord and believes on it!
Im wondering why pouring is condoned? Even if there is historical evidence that some poured, every scriptual example demonstrates going down into the water.
I feel like baptism of the Holy Spirit was when one was immersed and fully filled able to do miracles. Still agree with everything else. I think David needs to work with the church of Christ and pull some from them and influence them in some areas. It’s time for the true churches to come together. What denomination exactly is David? Or are there other churches that practice this besides the church of Christ. Out of curiosity. Everything I read about anabaptist Depict them as believing baptism as merely a symbol
@unknown-zy6dp We're an Anabaptist church that focuses on believing the historic Christian faith. We do have contact with some churches of Christ, and we really appreciate them! -Lynn
Did Abraham have righteousness by faith before, or after circumcision? Before. Circumcision was a seal of that righteousness which he already had by faith. Likewise, those who believe upon Christ, have righteousness by faith, even before they are baptized.
James 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by his works; There is no opposition between faith and works. They work together. One completes the other. 1 John 3:7 Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. If you are not practicing righteousness, you are deceiving yourself if you think you are righteous. God has done his part, and we must walk in the light as He is in the light. I hope this answers your question; if not, I can add much more.
@@IgnatiusEmanuel yes. I agree that a person is deceived, if they are not practicing righteousness, but that doesn't have anything to do with original comment. My comment was simply stating that a person can have righteousness which is by faith, before they have contact with the waters of baptism.
As someone who came out of the Coc, I would be interested in hearing how this teaching is substantially different from Coc doctrine. I wonder to what degree Davids friendship with Chuck Pike, a coC preacher and fellow trustee at Sattler College has influenced his thought. Having left the Coc and am fellowshipping with Mennonites, I still struggle with their baptismal doctrine and practice. It is really the only doctrinal hang-up I have that is keeping me from becoming a member. I have come to love the spirit of peace I find in anabaptist churches, that is so different from the spirit of contention in the Coc.
What if you die, as a born again Christian, in unrepentant sin, say in a freak accident? Not as a backslider, but say, like Jimmy Swaggart, when he committed adultery with Jessica Hahn. What if he had died in a car accident before he had repented?
Matthew 10:29 Are not two sparrows sold for a copper coin? And not one of them falls to the ground apart from your Father’s will. This would indicate God's judgment. We see accounts in the OT where God takes someone out like Judah's son in Genesis because of his sin. Same God.
There are only two cases of Holy Spirit baptism in the N.T., namely, the apostles in Acts 2:1-4, and Cornelius with all his household in Acts 10. Also, the "laying on of hands" measure of the Holy Spirit could only be given through the hands of an apostle (Acts 8:18). They are all dead now and so is that gift. On the other hand, every believer received the indwelling of the Spirit in water baptism (Acts 2:38-39). The PROMISE that Peter speaks of in verse 39 includes not just forgiveness of sins, but also the gift of the Holy Spirit. Acts 2:38-39 Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. “For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call.”
Jesus will say "I NEVER knew you! Depart..." How can He say He NEVER knew you if you at one time WERE truly saved, but turned your back on Jesus and forfeited it?
@President Christopher Maybe he never knew those individuals. Maybe that was an idiom for "you have no part with me." Of course it's not literally true in any case, since Jesus knows everyone. In any case, Scripture is quite clear that we can lose our salvation: Matthew 13:20-21, Matthew 24:10-11, John 15:1-6, Romans 11:17-22, 1 Cor 10:8-12, Col 1:21-23, 1 Tim 4:1, Heb 3:12, Heb 6:4-6, Heb 10:26-29, James 5:19-20, 2 Pet 2:20-21, Rev 2:5, Rev 3:3 -Lynn
The great commission is "Make disciples" by "going, baptizing and teaching." They are participles. Baptism is the beginning of discipleship. It is the New Covenant initiation ceremony.
Let's look at Young's Literal translation the best out there. Matt. 28:18 And having come near, Jesus spake to them, saying, ‘Given to me was all authority in heaven and on earth; 19 having gone (participle phrase), then, disciple all the nations (noun phrase), (baptizing them (participle phrase) - to the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them (participle phrase) to observe all, whatever I did command you,) and lo, I am with you all the days - till the full end of the age.’ So the command is to make disciples by going, baptizing and teaching them.
6:01 "probably" the baptism of fire is the "baptism of" Judgement ???! Making up his own terms instead of following the biblical narrative. I fully agree on what this commenter wrote: "True baptism now is the baptism John Spoke of that was coming.....The baptism of the Holy Spirit. Which happens when someone hears the word of the Lord and believes on it!"
Naaman was dipped 7 times. In baptism, we are dipped once. Or, as the early church fathers 3 times - one for the Father, Son, and the Spirit. This is a weak correlation. Is it not FAITH that saves? This has led to the doctrine of infant baptism. It is insulting to me to say the blood of Jesus is powerless to wash away sins without dunking the baby or person in water. It is extremely offensive to me. What about Cornelius and his bunch?" They received the Holy Spirit BEFORE Peter commanded them to be baptized. What? Had they not been baptized would they have forfeited the Spirit? How could the Spirit come upon them if the blood of Jesus had not washed away their sins? How could true Christians - LIKE AUGUSTINE - fall for this crap doctrine of infant baptism? "He who believes and is baptized shall be saved." That last few verses - including Mark 16:16 - were NOT in the very first manuscripts.
@President Christopher We don't practice infant baptism, since we don't believe that baptism means anything unless it goes along with a conscious choice by the individual believer to repent. And we don't say that "the blood of Jesus is powerless to wash away sins without dunking the baby or person in water"; Jesus can save us however he wants, and in some cases, he did it differently (thief on the cross, Cornelius). It's just that he prefers to do it with baptism. -Lynn
That’s not biblical that’s only special circumstances and happened with the apostles and Cornelius. Everyone else in the bible receives it after baptism. I know it’s hard to take in but it’s truth. These evangelicals don’t read they parrot the lies they’re told in seminary and it’s tradition by man. Not what’s in the Bible
@@unknown-zy6dpYou need to read and understand 1 Corinthians 12:13. Baptism in the Spirit in mentioned only seven times in the NT. Only 1 Corinthians 12:13 tells us what it does - it makes us a member of the body of Christ. It has nothing to do with the pentecostal/charismatic 'second blessing' teaching, speaking in tongues, etc. Note: Whilst some translations render 1 Corinthians 12:13 as a reference to baptism _by_ the Spirit, the Greek text is exactly the same as in the other six references, where it is translated as a reference baptism _with_ the Spirit. Don't be misled by the limitations of whatever translation you're using (or pentecostal/charismatic 'second blessing' teaching,) into thinking 1 Corinthians 12:13 is talking about something different.
Peter didn't say 'let' them be baptized. The word 'let' is not there. That weakens the command to be baptized to some kind of option. It says to be baptized. KJV is the better translation.
No translation I know of has Peter saying "let them be baptized" at Acts 10:48, so it's not clear why you found it necessary to make this strawman argument.
I think baptism is 1 time down and 1 time up, because Roman's Paul said. We were baptized into Christ death and came up out of the water to rise to newness of life. So. Dying and being buried 3 times.. don't make sense of that symbology to me. Death, buriel, and resurrection is the symbol of baptism.. Death, buriel, rez, buriel, rez, buriel, rez.. Well let's hope we don't live out that symbolism
@@davidchupp4460 Paul never taught water baptism? He definitely does... He says, "why were we baptized if the dead rise not?" Obviously referencing the symbolism of death, buriel, resurrection he spoke of in romans 6. I pray you will study in to that and be corrected
@@davidchupp4460 that isn't what Paul was saying. He wasn't saying you need not obey Christ in being baptized which Christ himself commanded. He wasn't making the word of God of none effect, or nullifying the word of God. Jesus said, you are my disciple IF you obey my commandments. He commanded baptism. You can't be a disciple without it. As you are trying to push here falsely. Although, baptism itself doesn't make you a disciple if you don't obey the other commands of Christ.
@@davidchupp4460 its false to say he never taught it. He may have not performed it, more than those he named, but he definitely taught it. Furthermore, likewise does baptism also now save us.. Peter said. And was clearly speaking in regards to water But greatest flaw here is, "those who have been indoctrinated by the church." Are you above the Church?
@@davidchupp4460 he taught it in romans 6. Romans 6 is literally a doctrine on the symbology of water baptism. He isn't speaking of a spiritual, unseen thing. Literal, baptism visible to the human eye, that symbolizes death, buriel, resurrection. When he says, baptism... he was regarding water baptism. Also when he speaks regarding baptism for the dead, teaching that if Jesus didn't rise, then why were we baptized, seeing as Jesus rose from the dead, and water baptism symbolizes death, buriel, resurrection.
Just a suggestion. I am not questioning the sincerity of the speaker. I am pointing out that the fake grandiose arms up self exhausting pictures poses of speaker only centers on and exalts the speaker. This may be OK for the east coast commercial "church" business of the world but is the opposite of humble in the Kingdom of God where only God receives greatness.
Thanks, brother Nick; yeah, those are his natural poses. I did not ask him to pose any any way for the video. We are just enthusiastic about our King. Do you suggest we not move while we teach? We don't move to be prideful. We move because it is natural. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I assure you this man is humble. The pictures picked are straight from the actual video, so they are not fake. If you are talking about the background, that is so people can remember if they have seen them or not. Thanks for your understanding. Sound Faith
Quick question. How does raising your hands exalt you? Is that something the world teaches? Is that in the Bible somewhere? Or is that just personal opinion?
Baptism is NOT pouring of water upon the repentant soul. There is NO scripture that teaches this doctrine. Confession and repentance without Baptism offers NO salvation...period the end. If it isn't in the Word of God Almighty it isn't OF or FROM God. There is NO body of believers in the Bible known by ANY denominational name. Therefore, there is no denomination that is apart of the body of Christ, which is the church. Repentance also means to "Amend" your sinful ways...as in the Bible account of the prodigal son.
@Billy B: Obviously that is not according to the Bible, so it is not true baptism in God’s eyes. It’s similar to people nowadays calling something marriage, which God does not view as true, Biblical marriage.
Baptism doesn't add one to the church. It adds one to the kingdom of God. John 3:5. The kingdom of God and churches are different. Churches make up the kingdom of God. A church is defined as a company of baptized believers covenanted together to execute the commands of Christ. Matthew 18:20 "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." The Ethiopian eunuch was baptized but where was a church? Cornelius was baptized. How was he treated? The church didn't make him a member as Peter has to give explanation to smooth things over. Acts 11:1-2 And the apostles and brethren that were in Judaea heard that the Gentiles had also received the word of God. And when Peter was come up to Jerusalem, they that were of the circumcision contended with him,". In virtually all instances of baptism people are not being added to churches. The word "Churches" is used in the plural 36 times in the new testament demonstrating that there is no one large mystical invisible church. Churches are local and visible. The Greek word for church, "ecclesia" is defined as a "called out assembly". An invisible mystical church would be an oxymoron, something completely contrary to the word itself.
Baptism in the three titles was never said by Jesus. Here are proofs of who changed that baptism. The early church never baptized in the 3 titles. Wilhelm Bousset, Kyrios Christianity, page 295: "The testimony for the wide distribution of the simple baptismal formula [in the Name of Jesus] down into the second century is so overwhelming that even in Matthew 28:19, the Trinitarian formula was later inserted." The Catholic Encyclopedia, II, page 263: "The baptismal formula was changed from the name of Jesus Christ to the words Father, Son, and Holy Spirit by the Catholic Church in the second century."
@Jorge Rivera Are you sure? Jesus said, "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" (Matt 28:19). -Lynn
@Jorge Rivera I took a quick look at your first quote. The NET says, "Although some scholars have denied that the trinitarian baptismal formula in the Great Commission was a part of the autographic text of Matthew, there is no ms support for their contention. F. C. Conybeare, “The Eusebian Form of the Text of Mt. 28:19, ” ZNW 2 (1901): 275-88, based his view on a faulty reading of Eusebius’ quotations of this text. The shorter reading has also been accepted, on other grounds, by a few other scholars. For discussion (and refutation of the conjecture that removes this baptismal formula), see B. J. Hubbard, The Matthean Redaction of a Primitive Apostolic Commissioning (SBLDS 19), 163-64, 167-75; and Jane Schaberg, The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit (SBLDS 61), 27-29." So there is no New Testament manuscript at all that says to baptize in the name of Jesus at Matt 28:19 instead of "of the father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit." Later quotations are probably from Acts. -Lynn
A point about
1 Peter 3:21
I don't know why translators choose to translate επερώτημα as ANSWER when it means the *opposite* but they did. It means "a request, a beseeching, a begging" (who? God, for a cleansed conscience)
mind blown. thanks.
Probably nefarious intentions from the Calvinists.
If you don’t want to be shocked on judgment day, BE HUMBLE, BE TEACHABLE and ask the LORD to “open your mind” so that you can truly understand the Scriptures (Luke 24:45->
“Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures…”)
I found this message to be very meaningful and helpful to understand and truly appreciate the importance of baptism... Jesus said to John the Baptist (when John protested against baptizing Jesus); "it must needs be so to fulfill all righteousness"... Thanks for the message brother!
I appreciate guys like David Bercot so much who go straight back to the pure apostolic holiness without the traditions of men.
Thank you, David. May God and Christ bless you along with your family. For His Glory, God is giving you insight and using you to nourish us spiritually. This is real spiritual food. Awaiting for more. Have heard most of your topics again and again. Always fresh and current. This one on baptism opened my mind to Bible Truth. Again God bless. Amador from Puerto Rico, Kingdom Christian.
- Baptism shows a good conscience toward God / The Apostle Peter clearly confirms, "baptism doth also now save us" 1 Peter 3.21.
- Baptism washes away sins Acts 22.16
- Baptism gives entry "into" Christ Romans 6.3; Galatians 3.27.
- Jesus, our authority, made baptism necessary when he gave the command in Mark 16.16. In other words, our sins are not washed away, and we are not "in Christ" until we are baptized.
- Since baptism is for the forgiveness of sins (Acts 2.38), we are still in our sins (and lost) until we are baptized.
- We should also realize that baptism is a burial or immersion--not sprinkling Romans 6.3-4 and baptism is for believers, not infants Mark 16.16.
- Many folks say "we aren't saved by works!" Yet, is baptism a work? It is a work of God Colossians 2.12. Jesus says belief is a work too John 6.29. James says we must have faith plus works James 2.14-26, note verse 24. We are saved by the mercy and grace of God, but He demands we be baptized to wash away our sins. He does the work through His Son's blood if we follow His instructions.
"For by ONE SPIRIT are we all baptized into ONE BODY {Christ]..." I thought the blood of Jesus washed away sin.
@@PresidentChristopher And you're using that verse to say what? And you felt the need to capitalize Spirit for what reason?
@kac0404 As you claimed baptism wash away our sins then Jesus died for nothing and God had make a mistake.
@@PresidentChristopher the blood of Christ is appropriated on the repentant sinner through baptism in water by faith. Baptism in water is a command, not a choice. No faith in this no forgiveness of sins or the gift of the Holy Spirit Acts2:38, 22:16, Gal 3:27.
@@ktmlifer Well, Cornelius and his bunch received the Holy Ghost and AFTERWARDS Peter asked them, "Who can forbid water that these should be baptized which have received the Spirit, as well as we?"
There were probably thousands of people who received John’s baptism but died before Jesus started the new covenant by dying on the cross for our sins, which means they died before the new covenant took effect. Are they forgiven? I would believe so ❤🙏🏽😇🔥
What is important is -humbly before the Lord-“what is the Holy Spirit telling YOU?” What Peter taught me is “You need to repent (change your mind about the way you look at the world and begin to see all things from the perspective of Immanuel; and turn away from your sins, the things that pollute your conscience) and be immersed in water. When you do this in faith, your sins will be washed away, you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit, and become a member of Gods family and a citizen of the kingdom of God on this earth, until God takes you home to paradise and eternal life in heaven.”
@LuisJLouJackMartinez----- I quote your comment; “You need to repent (change your mind about the way you look at the world and begin to see all things from the perspective of Immanuel; and turn away from your sins, the things that pollute your conscience").
I respectfully disagree to your defining the word "to repent" and the more precise is to feel or express sincere regret or remorse about one's wrongdoing or sin. I don't see any teaching that an unregenerate person have the power "to turn away from your sins" that man has the problem of sin and has no power in and of himself to deliver himself from this problem of sin. He is separated from God thus he has no power to do so.
FYI No unbeliever, no unregenerate person, can turn from sin because they can do no good (Rom. 3:10-12), are slaves of sin (Rom. 6:14-20), cannot receive or understand spiritual things (1 Cor. 2:14), are at enmity with God (Eph. 2:15), love darkness rather than light (John 3:19), cannot come to God on their own (John 6:44, 65), are dead in their sins (Eph. 2:1), and are at enmity with God (Eph. 2:15). Because of the condition of the unregenerate, we must conclude that they are unable to do what is right .
Any comments, please. Thank you.
Great preaching.
Is it ok if I was baptized in Jesus name like people in acts2,8,19.
David Bercot , You presented the truth concerning water baptism. The blood of Jesus Christ forgives our sin in water baptism. If a person has rightly repented and rightly believed. Yet the influence of Protestantism is so profound in annabaptism , that your biblical view of baptism has been replaced by the anxious bench or alter call by Charles Finney. Thankyou for sound doctrine.
At 12 minutes, David quotes Acts 2:38-39 which the translation he read translated a word τεκνα (tekna) that does NOT mean children but it means *offspring* or *descendents* . There is no age defined in this word, but the English word "children" does convey a young age. Therefore the translated word is misleading, fanning into flame the error of baptizing children.
@Girma ZaGondar "what is offspring if not children?"
...you asked.
Me, I am the offspring of my father. I am 55 years old.
ἐγὼ εἰμὶ τέκνον τοῦ πατρὸς μου κάγω οὐκετὶ παιδίον ἤ βρέφος ἤ παῖς εἰμί.
In English, the word "child" we cease to be as we age.
But in ancient Greek, the τέκνον of the parents, he or she *NEVER* ceases to be.
It is translated this way because as we see in the gospels how powerful tradition can be over truth, so is the case here. It was translated this way due to state church errored tradition and influence. The William Tyndales of the world must stand for truth, and persuade the blind to open their eyes.
@ገሩም ትዎድሮስ The oldest christisn writings we have outside of the NT are the Ante Nicene Fathers (ANF). They date from arguably 60 to 80 AD until before the Council of Nicea (hence the name)... 325 AD. Volume 1 and 2 is most of the oldest ones dating until about 200 AD or so. I have read these sooo many times anddon't see what you are saying to be recorded in them. In fact, Tertullian (205 AD) wrote in his writing on Baptism urging to post pone the baptism of children since they are not ready to handle the heavy responsibility with having the Holy Spirit.
@ገሩም ትዎድሮስ In any case, bless you and your family brother.
@@jesusstudentbrettTertullian objected to what appears to have been the newly-introduced practice of paedobaptism because, not only were infants innocent but they were also incapable of ‘coming’ of their own volition (cf. Matthew 19:13-14; Mark 10:13-15; Luke 18:15-17) to express faith or to confess or repent from any supposed sins ( _On Baptism,_ 18). Instead, Tertullian argued, baptism was to be preceded by prayer, fasting, night-long vigils, and the confession of all past sins ( _On Baptism,_ 20). Children's supposed inability to "handle the heavy responsibility with having the Holy Spirit", whatever you mean by that, had nothing to do with it.
id love to attend this fellowship
You are very welcome to visit! chambersburgcf.org -Lynn
@@SoundFaithChannelwhat type of church should I look for ? in my area closest to these beliefs is church of Christ wich I’m ok with I disagree w very little w them. All anabaptist churches in my area say they believe baptism is merely a symbol alone
@@unknown-zy6dp That's a tough question to answer. David Bercot addresses it here:
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@@SoundFaithChannel thank you so much wish I was near y’all lol I’ve been struggling with this stuff for awhile being raised baptist originally. Been trying to find answers for years this channel is a blessing
At the 40 minute point where the question came about "ongoing sin and cleansing", consider what the apostles said:
1 Peter 4
1 SINCE therefore Christ SUFFERED in the flesh,
➡arm yourselves with THE SAME way of thinking, ⬅
⚠for whoever has suffered in the flesh has STOPPED sinning, ☡
2so as to live for the rest of the time in the flesh no longer for human passions but for the will of God. 3For the time that is past suffices for doing what the Gentiles want to do, living in sensuality, passions, drunkenness, orgies, drinking parties, and lawless idolatry.
➡4 With respect to this they are surprised when you do not join them in the same flood of debauchery,⬅ and they malign you; 5 but they will give account to him who is ready to judge the living and the dead.
6For this is why the gospel was preached even to those who are dead, that though judged in the flesh the way people are, they might live in the spirit the way God does.
7The end of all things is at hand;
➡therefore BE self-controlled and sober-minded ⬅
for the sake of your prayers. 8Above all, keep loving one another earnestly,
➡since love covers a multitude of sins. ⬅
9 Show hospitality to one another without grumbling.
1 John 3
3 And everyone who thus hopes in him purifies himself as he is pure.
4 Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness. 5You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. 6No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. 7Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. 8Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. 9No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’sb seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. 10By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother.
God enlighten some brother and be interested in Translating all the messages of this master of the word from English to Spanish
Never heard of the three baptisms, interesting.
So, someone who was immersed once, should "rebaptize" and immerse three times?
Good question. We as a congregation immerse three times because we have observed that some patristics practiced three times in the Pre-Nicene Christian writings. In no way would we say that being immersed once was invalid. I was only immersed once. Also it is the custom passed down from generation to generation of many churches including ours.
@@SoundFaithChannel Matthew 28:19 Jesus said "dipping them in the name of the father,
dipping them in the name of the son,
and dipping them in the name of the spirit that is holy."
This is why the early church dipped the baptismal candidate three times.
@@jesusstudentbrett What translation or Greek text are you using? The Greek that I find on Biblehub does not say "dipping" or baptism three times, only once.
@@SoundFaithChannel Where is your church because I wanted to visit.
I am using my own translation, speaking, reading and writing in Koine Greek. Admittedly it was the early church speaking this way in vivid descriptions of baptizing ceremony that got me considering this 10 years ago. I started studying NT Greek in late 2015, began the spoken method with Polis Institute in an 8 week immersion in 2016, just return last year from Jerusalem 2 years immersed in school speaking, reading and writing Koine Greek.
I now recognize the Greek practice that rightfully should be translated "dipped" 3 times....Father, Son, HS.
English can do it to for example:
The man bought the book, the bread, and the socks.
Means : The man BOUGHT the book, he BOUGHT the bread and he BOUGHT the socks.
Thank you for this video. I was baptized in high school, but for a dumb reason (not really obedience - rather, to copy my girlfriend) and didn't really understand the significance of it. I didn't repent either. I went off to college out-of-state, got entangled in more and more sin, until last year I got a big wake-up call and realized I needed to get serious and get right with God. I instantly stopped a bunch of sins, started reading my Bible consistently every day, praying, etc. Now, I just want to follow and obey and worship Jesus for the rest of my life (and beyond, I hope!).
As of late, after much research I've come to the understanding that baptism is for the remission of sins, and is a necessary part of salvation. Is there still hope for me? Should I get baptized again now that I am really seeking to be obedient to Christ? Or was my first baptism valid (I kind of hope it wasn't; I'm ashamed of it)? I worry that if it *was* valid and I wasn't aware, that perhaps I've sinned too much since then and cannot be forgiven... :(
So glad to hear about this, Billy! It's wonderful to know that you are following Jesus. We believe that a person only needs to be baptized once if they are baptized in Jesus' name as believers. In most cases people don't need to be baptized again, but maybe in your case you do. Feel free to reach out to us at soundfaithchannel@gmail.com if you'd like to discuss this more.
You don't need to fear that you have sinned too much. If you are bearing good fruit and are walking by the Spirit, that means you are of God. Those who are beyond help do not bear good fruit or walk by the Spirit. Scripture makes this clear. -Lynn
@@SoundFaithChannel Hi Lynn! Thanks so much for your reply. I just sent an email to that address; would love to discuss more. Thanks again!
For more context, Bercot is not saying baptism alone saves. I think what he is saying is, true faith leads to baptism -the biblical way of professing faith. We dont simply profess faith through a private prayer and were off on our own. This completes the process of conversion. This is not so different from a correct baptist view of baptism. There is a spiritual significance in the act, through the belief and repentance of the individual by grace. I dont think David denies the salvation of believers who dies before getting baptized. This is what the Romanists get wrong, that led them to practice infant baptism.
Got it wrong on the “Romanists”
If you're saved before baptism, you're saved before your sins are washed away according to Acts 22:16.
@KadenGreen-eg1cz I've only seen one instance to where the Holy Spirit was given to believers, as far as I knew, before water baptism.
Not long after I recieved the Holy Spirit ,a sermon was finished in my church and the pastor said that all those wanting to be anointed with oil and prayed for to line up.
As the people lined up I saw that there was several children in line with their mothers. None of them appeared to be over 6 or 7 years old.
When the first little boy stepped in front of the pastor the pastor anointed him with oil and layed hands on him.
Immediately the boy crumpled to the floor and lie there speaking in tongues.
Before I knew it several children were laying on the floor speaking in tongues.
As a baby in Christ myself I asked my self how it was possible that they hadn't been baptized and yet recieved the Holy Spirit.
In later years I realized that water baptism is for the remission of sins. Remission of sins is the removal of the guilt from wilful sin.
The children had no guilt to be removed.
"Jesus wouldn't have had to be crucified had we not sinned." Did we FORCE Jesus to go the cross, or did God and Christ agree to this? If Jesus agreed to this, according to the will of God, how do WE crucify Jesus? GOD sent Jesus to the cross.
I have a question @SoundFaithChannel . What about people who repent and believe the Gospel on their deathbed? What about people who were beptized, but thought it was just a symbol? Does thst still count? Thanks!!
@nathanleameister7179 Good question. We have the example of the thief on the cross to show us that, when there's no possibility of following God's command, God doesn't hold it against us. He's very merciful. So those who repent on their deathbed can be saved.
And though we believe baptism is more than a symbol, Scripture doesn't teach that it's what we believe about baptism that makes it efficacious. If someone was baptized with the intention of giving their life to Christ, we consider that a real baptism. -Lynn
Nope, the person had every opportunity to repent and be baptized into Christ by faith in His remission of sins. It’s not Gods fault the sinner didn’t respond quickly as the first Christian’s did.
Exodus 2:10 And the child grew, and she brought him unto Pharaoh's daughter, and he became her son. And she called his name Moses: and she said, Because I drew him out of the water.
Thanks so much for this excellent teaching. I have a question. Do we receive a new heart and mind in baptism or is regeneration/the conversion experience at a different occasion? Thanks so much.
@MATTY777 I would say yes, but we can see God working in our hearts before and after baptism too. -Lynn
32:57 "....and I guess afterwards we'll be laying hands on you to receive the Holy Spirit". Do you think that's what happened on the day of Pentecost? It's Jesus that gives the Holy Spirit.
No one ever said that Jesus did not give the Holy Spirit. That was something you read into what he was saying.
@@SoundFaithChannel thanks for the quick reply. Why is there a need to lay hands on someone after they are baptised?
We don't quite understand everything about how the Holy Spirit works, but we just live by faith and do what we see in the New Testament.
Biblically Jesus seems to give the Holy Spirit to those who have:
Repented and been baptized
Acts 2:38-39
38 Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the [k]remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call.”
Who have Faith Galatians 3:13-14
13 Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree”), 14 that the blessing of Abraham might come upon the Gentiles in Christ Jesus, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
Who Obay Acts 5:32
32 And we are His witnesses to these things, and so also is the Holy Spirit whom God has given to those who obey Him.”
Jesus sometimes gives the Holy Spirit to people when praying and at laying on of the Hands normally after baptism
Acts 8:14-17
14 Now when the apostles who were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent Peter and John to them, 15 who, when they had come down, prayed for them that they might receive the Holy Spirit. 16 For as yet He had fallen upon none of them. They had only been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 17 Then they laid hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.
Sometimes before Baptism
Acts 10
44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who heard the word. 45 And [o]those of the circumcision who believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues and magnify God.
Then Peter answered, 47 “Can anyone forbid water, that these should not be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?” 48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then they asked him to stay a few days.
Here is Another good example
Acts 19
And it happened, while Apollos was at Corinth, that Paul, having passed through the upper regions, came to Ephesus. And finding some disciples 2 he said to them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?”
So they said to him, “We have not so much as heard whether there is a Holy Spirit.”
3 And he said to them, “Into what then were you baptized?”
So they said, “Into John’s baptism.”
4 Then Paul said, “John indeed baptized with a baptism of repentance, saying to the people that they should believe on Him who would come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.”
5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6 And when Paul had laid hands on them, the Holy Spirit came upon them, and they spoke with tongues and prophesied. 7 Now, the men were about twelve in all.
@@SoundFaithChannel If you think it is unclear how the Lord administers the Holy Spirit, I hope this explanation will show you there is consistency:
I agree that baptism is essential because we hear the gospel that saves being preached (death, burial, resurrection) for the first time at Pentecost; the crowd responds asking what they must do, and 3,000 accepted it and were baptised and added to the number of the saved (added by The Lord, who builds his Church - Acts 2:47, Matt 16:18).
Peter at Cornelius's house had to think all the way back to the beginning (Pentecost) for the last time he had seen the spirit falling on anyone (Acts 11:5) and even then it was not the same here as there was no sound of rushing wind. It was a sign to Peter that God was doing something unthinkable to the Jews. It had nothing to do with normative conversion. If the Holy Spirit's action here was salvific, then they were saved before they were baptised; therefore baptism would not be for salvation but for the sake of obedience. But given the importance of their conversion (first among the Gentiles) it would need to be normative.
But in fact the Ephesian disciples of John (Acts 19) clarifies that the Holy Spirit (indwelling) is received as promised (Acts 2:38) in baptism. When Paul learned they had not received the Holy Spirit, he asked "then what baptism did you receive?" And so they were baptised into the name of the Lord Jesus so that through that baptism they would receive the Holy Spirit. It was after they were baptised that Paul laid hands on them for the imparting of miraculous gifting (which only an apostle could do. see Acts 8:18). As with the Samarians, the laying on of apostles hands was for the imparting of the miraculous measure of the Holy Spirit (not salvific) and a sign of God's acceptance of these peoples and to help the gospel be preached amongst them by these converts.
@@ChristisSaviour This verse below makes me slow to act as if I know precisely when the Holy Spirit does His work. I was not saying that He does not come during baptism I was saying there is evidence that He is not controlled by us. I was under the impression that you thought we believed we could do the imparting of the Holy Spirit.
“Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.””
John 3:5-8 NKJV
www.bible.com/114/jhn.3.5-8.nkjv
I’ve read almost all of Mr. Bercot’s books and like him, I’m trying very hard to emulate my walk with God the same way as the first century Christians.
Can Mr. Bercot clarify what he meant by his statement, “baptism by pouring on of water over your head”? My understanding about water baptism according to scriptures have always been full water immersion. When Jesus were baptized by John the Baptist, it stated that he got up, out of the water (Mark 1:10). Also, the Ethiopia Eunuch stopped to get baptized when he came across some water (Act8:36-37). If pouring water over one’s head was an acceptable method, then he wouldn’t have had to wait until he saw water to get baptized. He would have done it at any point before that since they mostly had some water with them in the chariot. Please clarify…😊
@Al Kao Great question. The preferred method in the early church was definitely to immerse. However, we know that they also considered pouring and sprinkling to be valid too, although they only practiced those methods when necessary. Just read the Didache to read the early view on the topic.
www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/didache-roberts.html
-Lynn
@@SoundFaithChannel Thank you for your reply! According to the Didache, pouring on of water baptism was acceptable in the early churches but it doesn't seem to be a common practice for the early church. This method of baptism is found nowhere in the canonized Bible. Why would your church choose this method of baptism? Don't you think this would cause confusion to anyone that's not familiar with the Didache article? Sincerely, Al
@Al Kao Scripture doesn't specify the mode of baptism. If it did, we would certainly follow that. It does seem most likely that baptisms in the New Testament were immersions, so we do that. However, in cases where someone was baptized by pouring, we don't rebaptize them, because Scripture doesn't say that that isn't sufficient. The Didache helps clarify that that was the apostolic practice as the early Christians understood it, so we're comfortable with people who use other modes. Does that make sense? -Lynn
Hello! David Bercot. What about the theif on the cross next to Jesus? Do we know in the scriptures that the theif was exempt from baptism that he is saved? Or what did the early christians say about that in the books you read? Are there videos of yours I can see that will help to answer these questions? Thank you for understanding this video.
@user-xg2ge3eb1u That's a very good question. We would recognize that God is free to act in special ways whenever exceptional circumstances arise, so the thief could be saved without baptism.
I don't know what the early Christians thought about the thief on the cross, but I do know that the early Christians talked about the "baptism of blood," where martyrs who were executed before they were baptized were in a way baptized by the shedding of their own blood. -Lynn
You might find this article by Baptist scholar Robert Stein quite refreshing as it supports your view. It is my own position as it seems to make the best sense out of all the relevant texts and the historical context: d3pi8hptl0qhh4.cloudfront.net/media/publications/sbjt/sbjt_1998spring2.pdf
Why are so many churches so insistent on downplaying baptism when the word of God just seems so clear in and of itself? Satan is very good at his job we need to pray for people to stop fighting against what the bible says.
Amen
True baptism now is the baptism John Spoke of that was coming.....The baptism of the Holy Spirit. Which happens when someone hears the word of the Lord and believes on it!
Absolutely! Water and the Spirit. -Lynn
@@SoundFaithChannel We are not saved by baptism in water, but by baptism of the spirit. I hold the belief that Jesus meant : living waters" in that verse and not physical water, which is mentioned other times in the Bible as the Holy Spirit.
Got to stick with the scriptures. Baptism was in water. From Acts 2, where Peter insisted -“Repent and be baptized” to Peter in his epistle insisting that just as Noah was saved through water, so “baptism now saves you”,
it was always referring to water baptism.
It is now water and Spirit, as JN 3 teaches.
I fully agree with you on that one dear brother in Christ Jesus, Regards, Stefan
This is a truth that the protestants' tragically miss and that is that our faith must be demonstrated in order for us to recieve from God.
This isn't "works",it is our faith in action.
When it comes to salvation after we believe and choose to repent, our repentance must be demonstrated by water baptism in order to recieve remission of sins.
Then we must ask the Lord for the Holy Spirit infilling until He answers our prayer and does so. Then, having recieved the Holy Spirit we must surrender our tongue to the Holy Spirit until He enables us to speak in the spiritual language that the Word calls "tongues".
This is to confirm to ourselves and those praying for us that we have recieved the Holy Spirit just as they did.
That's how, in Acts ch.10, that Peter and the disciples with him knew that the gentiles had also recieved the Holy Spirit.
Peter said,"Can any man forbid baptism to.these who have recieved the Holy Spirit just as we did"( Acts 10:47).
How did they know ? Because they spoke in " tongues". This is the equivalent of a newborn babies cries in the delivery room alerting all present that a baby has been born.
Is he saying that something supernatural happens when you r immersed in the water when you are a true believer? You receive the holy spirit when you r baptized in the water?
Please share if I am understanding right.
@Antonia Schiffer David is saying that God chooses to wash away our sins and give us the Holy Spirit when we are baptized in the water. The water itself can do nothing, but when we are baptized because of our faith in God, God supernaturally cleanses us at our baptism. Does that make sense? -Lynn
@@SoundFaithChannel Then David is wrong because true baptism now is the baptism John Spoke of that was coming after him.....The baptism of the Holy Spirit. Which happens when someone hears the word of the Lord and believes on it!
It's a repackaged teaching of the watch tower.
Im wondering why pouring is condoned? Even if there is historical evidence that some poured, every scriptual example demonstrates going down into the water.
Pouring was only condoned where there was insufficient water for an immersive baptism (e.g. in deserts).
I feel like baptism of the Holy Spirit was when one was immersed and fully filled able to do miracles. Still agree with everything else. I think David needs to work with the church of Christ and pull some from them and influence them in some areas. It’s time for the true churches to come together. What denomination exactly is David? Or are there other churches that practice this besides the church of Christ. Out of curiosity. Everything I read about anabaptist Depict them as believing baptism as merely a symbol
@unknown-zy6dp We're an Anabaptist church that focuses on believing the historic Christian faith. We do have contact with some churches of Christ, and we really appreciate them! -Lynn
Acts 2:47
“Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as SHOULD BE saved.”
(Not 'being' saved)
Did Abraham have righteousness by faith before, or after circumcision? Before. Circumcision was a seal of that righteousness which he already had by faith. Likewise, those who believe upon Christ, have righteousness by faith, even before they are baptized.
James 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by his works;
There is no opposition between faith and works. They work together. One completes the other.
1 John 3:7
Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous.
If you are not practicing righteousness, you are deceiving yourself if you think you are righteous.
God has done his part, and we must walk in the light as He is in the light.
I hope this answers your question; if not, I can add much more.
@@IgnatiusEmanuel yes. I agree that a person is deceived, if they are not practicing righteousness, but that doesn't have anything to do with original comment. My comment was simply stating that a person can have righteousness which is by faith, before they have contact with the waters of baptism.
I obeyed the Gospel în a Restoration church several years ago, and it sounds like you believe many of the same things that I learned.
I'm glad you know of Christians who believe these truths! Blessings on your journey. -Lynn
As someone who came out of the Coc, I would be interested in hearing how this teaching is substantially different from Coc doctrine. I wonder to what degree Davids friendship with Chuck Pike, a coC preacher and fellow trustee at Sattler College has influenced his thought. Having left the Coc and am fellowshipping with Mennonites, I still struggle with their baptismal doctrine and practice. It is really the only doctrinal hang-up I have that is keeping me from becoming a member. I have come to love the spirit of peace I find in anabaptist churches, that is so different from the spirit of contention in the Coc.
What if you die, as a born again Christian, in unrepentant sin, say in a freak accident?
Not as a backslider, but say, like Jimmy Swaggart, when he committed adultery with Jessica Hahn. What if he had died in a car accident before he had repented?
Matthew 10:29
Are not two sparrows sold for a copper coin? And not one of them falls to the ground apart from your Father’s will.
This would indicate God's judgment.
We see accounts in the OT where God takes someone out like Judah's son in Genesis because of his sin. Same God.
There are only two cases of Holy Spirit baptism in the N.T., namely, the apostles in Acts 2:1-4, and Cornelius with all his household in Acts 10. Also, the "laying on of hands" measure of the Holy Spirit could only be given through the hands of an apostle (Acts 8:18). They are all dead now and so is that gift. On the other hand, every believer received the indwelling of the Spirit in water baptism (Acts 2:38-39). The PROMISE that Peter speaks of in verse 39 includes not just forgiveness of sins, but also the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Acts 2:38-39
Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
“For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call.”
All accurate except being baptized 3x. One baptism, One faith Eph 4:5.
Jesus will say "I NEVER knew you! Depart..." How can He say He NEVER knew you if you at one time WERE truly saved, but turned your back on Jesus and forfeited it?
@President Christopher Maybe he never knew those individuals. Maybe that was an idiom for "you have no part with me." Of course it's not literally true in any case, since Jesus knows everyone.
In any case, Scripture is quite clear that we can lose our salvation: Matthew 13:20-21, Matthew 24:10-11, John 15:1-6, Romans 11:17-22, 1 Cor 10:8-12, Col 1:21-23, 1 Tim 4:1, Heb 3:12, Heb 6:4-6, Heb 10:26-29, James 5:19-20, 2 Pet 2:20-21, Rev 2:5, Rev 3:3
-Lynn
The great commission is "Make disciples" by "going, baptizing and teaching." They are participles. Baptism is the beginning of discipleship. It is the New Covenant initiation ceremony.
The "make disciples" is the _verb_ μαθητεύσατε (mathēteusate), _not_ a participle.
Baptism is performed on disciples; it does not make one a disciple.
@@Berean_with_a_BTh Wrong. Make disciple is the noun phrase, Going, baptizing, teaching are the participles.
@@davidcole1475 All that proves is that you are completely ignorant of the Greek language.
@@Berean_with_a_BTh Prove it then. I've studied that passage.
Let's look at Young's Literal translation the best out there.
Matt. 28:18 And having come near, Jesus spake to them, saying, ‘Given to me was all authority in heaven and on earth; 19 having gone (participle phrase), then, disciple all the nations (noun phrase), (baptizing them (participle phrase) - to the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them (participle phrase) to observe all, whatever I did command you,) and lo, I am with you all the days - till the full end of the age.’
So the command is to make disciples by going, baptizing and teaching them.
6:01 "probably" the baptism of fire is the "baptism of" Judgement ???! Making up his own terms instead of following the biblical narrative.
I fully agree on what this commenter wrote:
"True baptism now is the baptism John Spoke of that was coming.....The baptism of the Holy Spirit. Which happens when someone hears the word of the Lord and believes on it!"
@stefanm7327 I recommend reading the verse that immediately follows John the Baptist's statement, where he says what he means by fire. -Lynn
Naaman was dipped 7 times. In baptism, we are dipped once. Or, as the early church fathers 3 times - one for the Father, Son, and the Spirit. This is a weak correlation. Is it not FAITH that saves? This has led to the doctrine of infant baptism. It is insulting to me to say the blood of Jesus is powerless to wash away sins without dunking the baby or person in water. It is extremely offensive to me. What about Cornelius and his bunch?" They received the Holy Spirit BEFORE Peter commanded them to be baptized. What? Had they not been baptized would they have forfeited the Spirit? How could the Spirit come upon them if the blood of Jesus had not washed away their sins?
How could true Christians - LIKE AUGUSTINE - fall for this crap doctrine of infant baptism?
"He who believes and is baptized shall be saved." That last few verses - including Mark 16:16 - were NOT in the very first manuscripts.
@President Christopher We don't practice infant baptism, since we don't believe that baptism means anything unless it goes along with a conscious choice by the individual believer to repent.
And we don't say that "the blood of Jesus is powerless to wash away sins without dunking the baby or person in water"; Jesus can save us however he wants, and in some cases, he did it differently (thief on the cross, Cornelius). It's just that he prefers to do it with baptism. -Lynn
once someone believes they get the HS instantly
That’s not biblical that’s only special circumstances and happened with the apostles and Cornelius. Everyone else in the bible receives it after baptism. I know it’s hard to take in but it’s truth. These evangelicals don’t read they parrot the lies they’re told in seminary and it’s tradition by man. Not what’s in the Bible
@@unknown-zy6dpYou need to read and understand 1 Corinthians 12:13. Baptism in the Spirit in mentioned only seven times in the NT. Only 1 Corinthians 12:13 tells us what it does - it makes us a member of the body of Christ. It has nothing to do with the pentecostal/charismatic 'second blessing' teaching, speaking in tongues, etc.
Note: Whilst some translations render 1 Corinthians 12:13 as a reference to baptism _by_ the Spirit, the Greek text is exactly the same as in the other six references, where it is translated as a reference baptism _with_ the Spirit. Don't be misled by the limitations of whatever translation you're using (or pentecostal/charismatic 'second blessing' teaching,) into thinking 1 Corinthians 12:13 is talking about something different.
Peter didn't say 'let' them be baptized. The word 'let' is not there. That weakens the command to be baptized to some kind of option. It says to be baptized. KJV is the better translation.
No translation I know of has Peter saying "let them be baptized" at Acts 10:48, so it's not clear why you found it necessary to make this strawman argument.
I think baptism is 1 time down and 1 time up, because Roman's Paul said. We were baptized into Christ death and came up out of the water to rise to newness of life.
So. Dying and being buried 3 times.. don't make sense of that symbology to me.
Death, buriel, and resurrection is the symbol of baptism..
Death, buriel, rez, buriel, rez, buriel, rez..
Well let's hope we don't live out that symbolism
@@davidchupp4460 Paul never taught water baptism? He definitely does...
He says, "why were we baptized if the dead rise not?"
Obviously referencing the symbolism of death, buriel, resurrection he spoke of in romans 6.
I pray you will study in to that and be corrected
@@davidchupp4460 that isn't what Paul was saying. He wasn't saying you need not obey Christ in being baptized which Christ himself commanded.
He wasn't making the word of God of none effect, or nullifying the word of God.
Jesus said, you are my disciple IF you obey my commandments. He commanded baptism. You can't be a disciple without it. As you are trying to push here falsely.
Although, baptism itself doesn't make you a disciple if you don't obey the other commands of Christ.
@@davidchupp4460 its false to say he never taught it. He may have not performed it, more than those he named, but he definitely taught it.
Furthermore, likewise does baptism also now save us.. Peter said. And was clearly speaking in regards to water
But greatest flaw here is, "those who have been indoctrinated by the church."
Are you above the Church?
@@davidchupp4460 he taught it in romans 6. Romans 6 is literally a doctrine on the symbology of water baptism. He isn't speaking of a spiritual, unseen thing. Literal, baptism visible to the human eye, that symbolizes death, buriel, resurrection. When he says, baptism... he was regarding water baptism. Also when he speaks regarding baptism for the dead, teaching that if Jesus didn't rise, then why were we baptized, seeing as Jesus rose from the dead, and water baptism symbolizes death, buriel, resurrection.
@@davidchupp4460 find me one church father or church with your opinion. The scriptures aren't of any private interpretation
Just a suggestion. I am not questioning the sincerity of the speaker. I am pointing out that the fake grandiose arms up self exhausting pictures poses of speaker only centers on and exalts the speaker. This may be OK for the east coast commercial "church" business of the world but is the opposite of humble in the Kingdom of God where only God receives greatness.
Thanks, brother Nick; yeah, those are his natural poses. I did not ask him to pose any any way for the video. We are just enthusiastic about our King. Do you suggest we not move while we teach? We don't move to be prideful. We move because it is natural. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I assure you this man is humble. The pictures picked are straight from the actual video, so they are not fake. If you are talking about the background, that is so people can remember if they have seen them or not. Thanks for your understanding. Sound Faith
Quick question. How does raising your hands exalt you? Is that something the world teaches? Is that in the Bible somewhere? Or is that just personal opinion?
I would disagree thus far, except on infant baptism.
As sad as it is but it is still false preaching, or as the Lord would say " you do err not knowing the scriptures".
Baptism is NOT pouring of water upon the repentant soul. There is NO scripture that teaches this doctrine.
Confession and repentance without Baptism offers NO salvation...period the end.
If it isn't in the Word of God Almighty it isn't OF or FROM God.
There is NO body of believers in the Bible known by ANY denominational name. Therefore, there is no denomination that is apart of the body of Christ, which is the church.
Repentance also means to "Amend" your sinful ways...as in the Bible account of the prodigal son.
What about baptism without repentance?
@Billy B: Obviously that is not according to the Bible, so it is not true baptism in God’s eyes. It’s similar to people nowadays calling something marriage, which God does not view as true, Biblical marriage.
Baptism doesn't add one to the church. It adds one to the kingdom of God. John 3:5. The kingdom of God and churches are different. Churches make up the kingdom of God. A church is defined as a company of baptized believers covenanted together to execute the commands of Christ. Matthew 18:20 "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." The Ethiopian eunuch was baptized but where was a church? Cornelius was baptized. How was he treated? The church didn't make him a member as Peter has to give explanation to smooth things over.
Acts 11:1-2 And the apostles and brethren that were in Judaea heard that the Gentiles had also received the word of God.
And when Peter was come up to Jerusalem, they that were of the circumcision contended with him,".
In virtually all instances of baptism people are not being added to churches. The word "Churches" is used in the plural 36 times in the new testament demonstrating that there is no one large mystical invisible church. Churches are local and visible. The Greek word for church, "ecclesia" is defined as a "called out assembly". An invisible mystical church would be an oxymoron, something completely contrary to the word itself.
Baptism in the three titles was never said by Jesus. Here are proofs of who changed that baptism. The early church never baptized in the 3 titles.
Wilhelm Bousset, Kyrios Christianity, page 295:
"The testimony for the wide distribution of the simple baptismal formula [in the Name of Jesus] down into the second century is so overwhelming that even in Matthew 28:19, the Trinitarian formula was later inserted."
The Catholic Encyclopedia, II, page 263:
"The baptismal formula was changed from the name of Jesus Christ to the words Father, Son, and Holy Spirit by the Catholic Church in the second century."
@Jorge Rivera Are you sure? Jesus said, "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" (Matt 28:19). -Lynn
@Jorge Rivera I took a quick look at your first quote. The NET says, "Although some scholars have denied that the trinitarian baptismal formula in the Great Commission was a part of the autographic text of Matthew, there is no ms support for their contention. F. C. Conybeare, “The Eusebian Form of the Text of Mt. 28:19, ” ZNW 2 (1901): 275-88, based his view on a faulty reading of Eusebius’ quotations of this text. The shorter reading has also been accepted, on other grounds, by a few other scholars. For discussion (and refutation of the conjecture that removes this baptismal formula), see B. J. Hubbard, The Matthean Redaction of a Primitive Apostolic Commissioning (SBLDS 19), 163-64, 167-75; and Jane Schaberg, The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit (SBLDS 61), 27-29."
So there is no New Testament manuscript at all that says to baptize in the name of Jesus at Matt 28:19 instead of "of the father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit." Later quotations are probably from Acts.
-Lynn