@@Klblaz bit of a meme but you can make mods using notepad alone. the game's softcode, i.e. everything untied from the EXE is just as easy as re-arranging simple tags like [CREATURE:OTTER_MAN]
If i'd were to guess, and perhaps need a bit of modding, i know something that both Dwarf Fortress and Monster Hunter: World could have in common... That being "A oversized angry pickle beating the crap out of you with a cobra lizard"
@@doxazo5512 would be easy to mod. There's already cooking recipes with multiple steps, so modding in pickles (xgourds + vinegar stored in barrel = xpickles) should be fairly simple.... Right?
Now that this is released I love how it actually works as expected. Made a world, dove into its legends and realized there was the dwarf necromancer, Melbil, and realized that not only is he the arch-villian of the world (has destroyed at least 6 different civs of all different races, turning the eastern continent into a zombie hellscape) but he is actually still alive. The idea to make an adventurer coming from one of the last remaining human strongholds with the goal of killing the evil necromancer, was just too obvious.
I think he is just using the "Assume Identity" feature. I mean vampires in his game use it to get away with cold-blooded murder, so why can't he get away with creating a masterful video game?
I never before really understood what Tarn is doing with dwarf fortress. But now i do. He is on the frontier of procedural generated content. He is laying the brickroad for everone coming after that. A visionary and explorer. I'am deeply impressed by his analysis and plot creation. I never thought he was looking at other games and analyse their take on immersion.... to make an automated system to procedural generate the experience. I'am sure people will need years to really understand what he actually does and how it will impact the gaming world.
nailed it! i'm literally here coz i'm researching procedural design and EVERYONE links to tarn's talks!!! ...... and @@theterribleanimator1793 !!! if the excitement is too much, then you're too old!!!
coming back to this years later and something I appreciate a lot now is Tarn's attitude to that "what if the player wipes out the bandit camp and loses the thread" idea. my first response would probably be to try and find some way to make that not happen, but he makes a good point. the player heard about bandits murdering villagers, so they went out and stopped the bandits. that's a complete story in itself. it's not THE complete story but it's a story, the adventurer was told about the plight of the townsfolk and went and solved it. it might not be the stuff of epics or whatever but not everything has to be
18:06 'If the ruler died, thats just chaos. I mean its just not good for anybody if the ruler dies unless more bodies are created in the process aside from just the ruler. But the ruler is a good body too.'
"... my reward for regicide was.... monarchy... so I spent my reign spreading rumors that I killed the last king to which people responded that I, the king, was full of shit." -Some Jewish Internet Man
I really love the dedication he has to dwarf fortress. Part of the reason I can keep coming back to dorf ort for hundreds of hours is because I know the guy behind it loves it even more than I do.
@@jungoogie it is true. buuut, he's been doing it for faar longer than the donations he recieves, which honestly is only a modest sum. if it was only about money to continue, the game would be nowhere near the shear "impressivity" of dwarf fortress. this game is like a child to him, i can't even begin to comprehend sticking to a programming project for _over_ 17 **y e a r s**. it's sure more than doing what you love, because he is not going to stop until his dream is realized. there's so much depth to such a simply complex game.
@@lemonposting Oh I'm not taking away from the dedication. He's a game developing god and I'm just glad dwarf fortress is still being developed. But getting some money while working on this helps keep a roof over your head and it's hard to do what you love so patiently without some retainer or income coming in.
@@jungoogie The fact that they do not request donations is the part that kills me. You have to WANT to donate. Also they post the donations. Fucking great guys. Worth every dollar they get. Don't forget X-mas is coming! They gotta buy presents!
I really wish necromancers would be more active in the world, they just kind of hang out in their towers, writing some books and stuff. How cool would it be if some necromancer were really warmongering and tries to conquer the world?
I think the thing is, the ones who start trouble will either take over the world, destroy the world, or get killed themselves by reaction; the ones who are 'acedemics' are just the leftovers...
Who's to say they're not out to conquer the world, and aren't just waiting for the right time to strike? Necromancers are immortal, they can afford to be extreeeeeeeeeemleeey patient
I really think that what these brothers are doing is more than a video game, it's an ever changing improving work of art, a life's work, a masterpiece. What they're doing with this villain stuff is transformative for games in general.
Dwarf Fortress. This is a computer game. All craftdwarfship is of the highest quality. This object is adorned with sparks of genius. On the obejct is an inscription. The inscription reads: "loosing is fun!"
will never forget a dwarf getting annoyed, punching a small child so he flies across the room and splatters on the wall so his mother goes crazy start kicking people and everyone going into a violent bloody tantrum spiral. Or facing a huge Titan made of snow, punching it once and it dies lol. Or my legendary artifact "Stench of Vomit" a wool sock that was used by a human female mercenary to clobber over 6 troglodytes to death with ^^
While coincidentally i m losing my life in Rimworld&mods last week (i really like it)..DF is the father AND the future if we live to the day all the features get implemented.In Rimworld there are just maths what decides by who and why and how hard you ll get raided-while in DF might be an actual rumor of an artifact you possess that "really" got from mouth-to-ear from the other side of the map..or might not.Rimworld its like a lite-arcade mode of DF :)
True, Rimworld needs at least several dozen mods to feel somewhat as deep like Dwarf Fortress. The only problem with Rimworld is when you launch it with 30+ mods it takes 20min to start lol. But like you say, even with hundreds of new tech, items, needs, factions, rimgenetics and bionics the game is still superficial in that you are not meant to conquer the planet, like Ludeon the creator of Rimworld said, a colony is only meant to last for a decade or so whereas in Dwarf Fortress current build a Fort can last 200-1000 years with entire family lineages depending on how much "fun" you want. That being said my current Rimworld game finally has all the "end game" tech mods since they got updated to 1.0, so that will be interesting.
After the Villain arc released, all the encounters and quests that I had taken for granted as being straightforward became much more nuanced and convoluted under the surface. I don't even know where to start to describe how or the ways in which my adventurer's actions became enmeshed with deeper intercharacter objectives.
God I love this game more and more with every update. One of those few games that you can truly play however you want. My favorite is make a world then get my civilization going in a couple fortresses and stir up some drama in the world using them, then when they are set up how I want I start an adventure in said world. One of my favorite aspects is that you basically get to set your own narrative and story for your game. Truly an application of creativity.
DF is the only game i'm growing up with and i love it in many ways and not just as a game but as community with everything related to it. much appreciation for you Tarn and Zach.
The only thing I dislike about Dwarf Fortress is everytime I gen a new world, the historical figures if they have any events all just participated in competitions. That's it. I don't mind that, it's just that I can't hold competitions myself. :( I want to hold foot races between dwarves, or attract more visitors with an archery tournament. Maybe one day.
I wish Tarn was doing talks about old/new/future things in DF and how they are (going to be) implemented MUCH MORE OFTEN. And be given much more time. It's always amazing to see what he's working on, how it works, and how his mind works...
Wow, this guy is a programming legend, just have to say, shipbuilding/ privateer-ing would be cool to connect islands and would make a great addition to trade systems
Watching this video makes it feel possible to have a world that exists regardless of player interaction and then allow them to interact with it if they so choose.
Someone needs to get Tarn a helmet, all those wonderful things rolling around in his head, the world would need to be protected. Genius is sometimes hard to understand, and every time I hear Tarn speak at a convention I have to sit back and listen less to what he is saying and just allow myself to absorb the genius. Not unlike Dwarf fortress where its less about what the game is doing and more about how you perceive what is happening in the game. Tarn is dwarf fortress, and I trust that all that stuff he tries so hard to get us to understand at his presentations, we will just understand once it is in the game. Keep up the good work Tarn and Zach.
Awesome, I really hope they keep adding and improving on the adventure mode in DF. When I first started playing, all I would play is adventure mode. I loved creating a character and making a story through his travels, but I always felt it just needed more depth to it. Although recently, I've been playing more and more of fortress mode (Thanks to Kruggsmash) but I am really just looking forward to more in adventures.
Can I just say, that dwarf fortress will one day be the reason we discover that all life is a simulation programmed by TodayOneTheGreatest and our universe resides in a folder called "region2"
Dwarf Fortress has been a game I have been obsessed with for over 20 years and I can't even play it. Can't wait to get my hands on the steam version. I have spent more hours watching videos on dwarf fortress then I have played the majority of the games i own on steam.
I have barely played DF but I love everything about it and surrounding it. I've decided I'm going to start supporting the patreon once the Mythology stuff is out, since that seems like a cool point to get really into the game.
the 'sending off' has so much potential. i can make myself king was my first inclination. but on further reflexion, the best use of such a system would be to send them off to gather information about places. so you know what goes on in the world
I'm a new player who just got into DF, and i clicked on this video to understand a bit what's under the hood. Well. Hearing these things was interesting, and gave me a lot of ideas on what to do and have fun with in adventure mode.
Rimworld: uh oh your ship blow up now you live on a random planet with 5 extremely specific factions What’s that? All 3 of your survivors are useless drug addicts? Prepare for a repetitive raid by some random civilization with no backstory. After all Who wouldn’t want to fly across the planet to assault some random settlement. Haha you died funny moment you get nothing from losing by the way your world is just erased. Don’t worry instead of updating the game I’ll sell you a DLC I made by gluing together community mods. An extra $19.99 Thank you Tynan Sylvester, very cool!
UA-cam User damn this is a stupid comment. Rimworld is not even close to DF in complexity but was updated for several years as an early access product. Sorry that you think every game is aspiring to be DF and must keep updating freely until it stops being what it was and becomes that.
@@orlandolomelino2184 But on the topic of World-Building, the world-building in Rimworld is terrible. There are hardly any factions and they are randomly scattered around the map. Even if your colony is across the planet and you've destroyed all local enemy settlements they will literally trek thousands of miles just to attack you with a few people(Something not done in dwarf fortress only local factions dare to interact with you). It's seriously not that hard to make the factions more realistic but Tynan hasn't made any major changes in years, not counting the pointless DLC which added royalty for some reason. At least the deeper lore of the game is mildly interesting? But never comes into play at all. So that's great there are "Glitterworlds" and "Urbworlds" but from a gameplay perspective, those are nonexistent.
I think to really get this out your playthrough you have to dive into the history mode. Because if you're walking around in adventure mode, pretty much every town will tell you they have bandits, thieves, monsters and a missing object (or whatever). It's always a huge list of problems, which makes me wonder if they're all just refering to the same thing and the system is going a bit haywire. But only if you start reading the history it kinda makes more sense. It's a cool concept for sure
Great stuff. Similar veins and inspirations to what I've been thinking about when it comes to higher purpose, though I reckon Mr Adams is proven to have a bit more gumption to see them done, and I like that he's put some thought further down other veins than I have.
Imagine if when going through legends, you could look at kings who "121 Held a war council with o+ Ariah Urin and o/> Oln Tarnfoot. Oln suggested a feinting strategy, but Ariah convinced the king to take a direct approach" Since the events are interactions between historical figures, they could be recorded in the history. Would give a direct point for HFs "assuming an identity" to convince their enemy to take a bad war approach. Could also lead to the losing advisor in the debate getting angry and trying to implement their plan, or trying to assassinate their king to put the king's son on the throne. The sky is the limit. With how complex DF is right now, when he still calls it an alpha, imagine how complex it will be in 2475AD when he finishes it!
You could basically make/mod in a Hercule Poirot or Miss Marple like character who goes around solving crimes and suspicious murders after they implement this villain scheme in the game. Or something like the Ankh-Morpork City Watch from Terry Pratchett's Discword books (just using the already existing military squad options). A generic, emergent police procedural kind of thing. Pretty damn awesome.
Never restrain yourself from exploring a 'pie in the sky'. Your foresight is fear, let it go. Indulge in creativity and daydreaming until you flesh out a solid tangible thing. That is creation!! Do it bro! :D Love ur game!
Thank you Tarn. My favorite games are CK2, GTA: San Andreas, EU (3-4), Hard Time (by Mdickie), The Guild games and Mount and Blade. All of these involve interaction between factions, and that is the "genre" that I love the most. The reason I play DF2 is just for adventure mode, it is the different factions that intrigue me so much. Especially how it has multiple levels. Right now there is not much to do, but it is still enough to entertain me. The factions in DF2 are so many compared to other games, it is truly overdosed on factions, which is great. My dream game is that you play on a microlevel and you can engage inside factions on all levels, as a solider, a super solider that turns tides, a faction leader, a wizard apprentice, a member of a bandit group, an entertainer and so on. I think Adventure Mode DF2 is destined to become the greatest game in this "faction" genre. I had high hopes for The Guild 3 but it turned out to be SHIT, it seems that DF2 will be the best "faction game".
Need Villains update.After my usual train in adventurer mode nobody dares to challenge me.They rarely even fight back when i start cutting ppl left and right.
COME ON you peeps! No one had good questions like "I want to be a hedonistic adventurer that propagates an army of children and has a bunch of woman that are plotting to kill me. Can you do this?"
Outdated, I know, but an adventure mode update? I did not check the wiki yet about diplomacy but as he said, so far the game is about spawning and destroying mostly, right? I am more curious about expanding peaceful relationships, sending out own new settlements, switching control between main and off-site settlements, repopulating creatures without modding and mending war relationships that started because you misclicked a wooden item in the trade menu which dooms your FPS to the point you retire out of sheer boredom...
thats because most of the video watchers are trying to learn and failing but stick around for the journey i almost rage quit a few times but i keep cominb back
I would've asked him if its possible for us to start out as the hero and then at a certain point along the way if we discover this is about a Necromancer who has ambition to do this or that could we track him down and then offer to become his new apprentice?
This sounds amazing. I haven't played much dwarf fortress and none if the roguelike style gameplay. How much of what he's talking about is actually in the game now?
You can check the dev log: bay12games.com/dwarves for weekly updates to progress. He doesn't state everything he's programmed in, because he likes for their to be surprises to players when they download the next update, and things for them to find on their own, but the main line is all stated with interesting stories to show progress. The entire Villains update is just an inbetween from main development to give players something to occupy themselves with in DF during what is called the "Big Wait", which will be the programming of the Myth And Magic release, which promises to be absolutely EPIC!!!! Randomly generated magic systems, and random entire world building myth (e.g. This mountain range was created when this god slew a forest titan which then became the mountains).
to be fair if this was ever ported to have at least very simple graphics this could be best game of all time. Some in core of their heart can always hope.
@@VarenvelDarakus it IS the best game of all time. Graphics are a filter, not an issue. A game doesn't have to appeal to everyone for it to be good, and often it's games that try to appeal to everyone that fail to be good at all.
@@robotcalus I know , got it same day it got out , been on my wishlist it appeared on steam , but thanks for thinking about me kind internet stranger, happy holidays/new year to you.
fuck yeah, waiting for magic system to start a new fortress. My last fortress was a blast, though I want to build more a Warhammer Dwarven type fortress next game.
what font is this?! same as Bob Nystroms presentation it looks like .Edit- ok no it’s different. I really want to find (or i’ll just end up drawing my own) the font from Bobs
I'm sorry, but when I hear "go cause trouble" in the context of DF, I just imagine a character with Martial Arts maxed, going around and dislocating people's legs (which makes them pass out from pain) and then killing them when there's time. O:-)
The adventure mode is basically broken right now (playable, but broken if you don't mind the oxymoron), so I'm not crazy about it either. Once we get 1.0 release though, I imagine it being just as enjoyable, if not more so, than fortress mode.
He makes his game in notepad and his presentation in MS paint. He's a God.
Does he seriously code in notepad?
its a meme, people say he bugfixed 0.31 on notepad
@@Klblaz bit of a meme but you can make mods using notepad alone. the game's softcode, i.e. everything untied from the EXE is just as easy as re-arranging simple tags like [CREATURE:OTTER_MAN]
The tools of a god
notepad ++ is a very powerful tool, its entirely possible to make a game with it.
Holy hell, huh? Man do I love DF.
Man do I love Kruggsmash!
Definitely love your work Krugg
ya bearded bastard, throw that love in the pile and get back to work! ;)
Love your content Krugg!
and we love you!
"Peace with the elves... until they decide to eat you"
This has been another episode of "Phrases you will only hear in Dwarf Fortress"
There are so freaking many
If i'd were to guess, and perhaps need a bit of modding, i know something that both Dwarf Fortress and Monster Hunter: World could have in common...
That being "A oversized angry pickle beating the crap out of you with a cobra lizard"
Bernardo Carvalho, DF doesn’t have pickles :/
@@doxazo5512 that's why i mentioned that modding might be needed for that
@@doxazo5512 would be easy to mod. There's already cooking recipes with multiple steps, so modding in pickles (xgourds + vinegar stored in barrel = xpickles) should be fairly simple.... Right?
Now that this is released I love how it actually works as expected.
Made a world, dove into its legends and realized there was the dwarf necromancer, Melbil, and realized that not only is he the arch-villian of the world (has destroyed at least 6 different civs of all different races, turning the eastern continent into a zombie hellscape) but he is actually still alive. The idea to make an adventurer coming from one of the last remaining human strongholds with the goal of killing the evil necromancer, was just too obvious.
You died, didn't you?
@@Neimonster Yes. I had 'Fun' long before I ever found the Necromancer :P
@@TheMunchkin9 gotta love some good ol !!Fun!! ;-)
After his adventures, Melbil became a tycoon selling foodstuffs made from butterfly brains.
That motherfucker, Melbil, keeps raiding my shit cause I took some of his books. What a dickhead.
We need to pursue clinical immortality will all available ressources.
Tarn Adams must not die before version 1.0.
You meant zach right? :P
@@pontusbolin8675 Hopefully both. I would like it if both of them live to see this game get finished.
@@FireheadLazzo But isn't Zach the one with the most urgent Health problem?
@@pontusbolin8675 Sure. Both of them surviving would include Zach. Both is still good.
Little do you know, 1.0 has been out for a long time, and actually 2.0, too. The latter of which we are currently living in at the moment
the real roguelikification is spawning in an ai made dwarf fortress and escaping to the surface world
the most difficult part of the game tbh
@@cloudberry_6010 the most !FUN¡ part.
No joke, the AI is amazing for an Indie, especially considering is was funded by donations, whereas Valve still hasn't figured out how zombies work
Half life 2.1
This is so true! I once started my journey in dwarf fortress and I never get to the surface. Only undergrounds...
That awkward moment when you realize than Tarn Adams was a human being all along. The plot twist omg
definitely still an android in a meat-suit. ;)
thought he was a dwarf 0/10 traitor
I think he is just using the "Assume Identity" feature. I mean vampires in his game use it to get away with cold-blooded murder, so why can't he get away with creating a masterful video game?
No he's a giant dwarf.
He and his brother
"dream this, dream that, and weird elephant trunks"
Yeah that's pretty much the plot of Morrowind.
Don't forget giant mushrooms
Where did you think the weird dreams came from?
I like you, n'wah.
There is no escape!
@@iampixel4086 For the longest time I thought they were saying "n-word". -.-
I never before really understood what Tarn is doing with dwarf fortress. But now i do. He is on the frontier of procedural generated content. He is laying the brickroad for everone coming after that. A visionary and explorer. I'am deeply impressed by his analysis and plot creation. I never thought he was looking at other games and analyse their take on immersion.... to make an automated system to procedural generate the experience. I'am sure people will need years to really understand what he actually does and how it will impact the gaming world.
calm down.
Pretty much! Good way of looking at it
Also check Ultima Ratio Regum, your mind is gonna blow.
@@theterribleanimator1793 excite up.
nailed it! i'm literally here coz i'm researching procedural design and EVERYONE links to tarn's talks!!! ...... and @@theterribleanimator1793 !!! if the excitement is too much, then you're too old!!!
coming back to this years later and something I appreciate a lot now is Tarn's attitude to that "what if the player wipes out the bandit camp and loses the thread" idea. my first response would probably be to try and find some way to make that not happen, but he makes a good point. the player heard about bandits murdering villagers, so they went out and stopped the bandits. that's a complete story in itself. it's not THE complete story but it's a story, the adventurer was told about the plight of the townsfolk and went and solved it. it might not be the stuff of epics or whatever but not everything has to be
18:06 'If the ruler died, thats just chaos. I mean its just not good for anybody if the ruler dies unless more bodies are created in the process aside from just the ruler. But the ruler is a good body too.'
Funny and insightful presentation. I'm fascinated by his mind. Truly made for making roguelikes.
"... my reward for regicide was.... monarchy... so I spent my reign spreading rumors that I killed the last king to which people responded that I, the king, was full of shit."
-Some Jewish Internet Man
@@baronvonbeandip hey hey...
I really love the dedication he has to dwarf fortress. Part of the reason I can keep coming back to dorf ort for hundreds of hours is because I know the guy behind it loves it even more than I do.
$$$ Talks and they are getting the donations. Plus doing what you love helps.
@@jungoogie it is true. buuut, he's been doing it for faar longer than the donations he recieves, which honestly is only a modest sum. if it was only about money to continue, the game would be nowhere near the shear "impressivity" of dwarf fortress. this game is like a child to him, i can't even begin to comprehend sticking to a programming project for _over_ 17 **y e a r s**. it's sure more than doing what you love, because he is not going to stop until his dream is realized. there's so much depth to such a simply complex game.
@@lemonposting Oh I'm not taking away from the dedication. He's a game developing god and I'm just glad dwarf fortress is still being developed. But getting some money while working on this helps keep a roof over your head and it's hard to do what you love so patiently without some retainer or income coming in.
@@jungoogie The fact that they do not request donations is the part that kills me. You have to WANT to donate. Also they post the donations. Fucking great guys. Worth every dollar they get. Don't forget X-mas is coming! They gotta buy presents!
This is super interesting.
They should make a Dwarf Fortress convention.
DWARFCON
DORFCON
URISTCON
Bearded bastards united
You cap it off by releasing magma in the room
DORFCON
cutting edge procedural design ; a decade well spent ; thank the dwarves for Tarn and Zach and their dad for getting them both into programming
I could be wrong but it looks like Tarn has lost a bit of weight. Good for him :) I love DF.
it COULD just be a different camera/angle from the last one he was on, but i agree, he looks a bit thinner.
definitely.
Getting better at public speaking too
Yeah he looks healthier overall! :D
yeah he looks pretty damn good
I really wish necromancers would be more active in the world, they just kind of hang out in their towers, writing some books and stuff. How cool would it be if some necromancer were really warmongering and tries to conquer the world?
looks like that's on the table for this next release! it's really exciting.
Problem is necromancers do have a very real chance at conquering the world.
I think the thing is, the ones who start trouble will either take over the world, destroy the world, or get killed themselves by reaction; the ones who are 'acedemics' are just the leftovers...
The come and try to conquer your fort.
Who's to say they're not out to conquer the world, and aren't just waiting for the right time to strike? Necromancers are immortal, they can afford to be extreeeeeeeeeemleeey patient
I really think that what these brothers are doing is more than a video game, it's an ever changing improving work of art, a life's work, a masterpiece. What they're doing with this villain stuff is transformative for games in general.
Dwarf Fortress. This is a computer game. All craftdwarfship is of the highest quality. This object is adorned with sparks of genius. On the obejct is an inscription. The inscription reads: "loosing is fun!"
It is! Fun fact, it's in the Museum of Modern Art.
If I ever meet Tarn, I will just walk up to him and hug him. Not a casual hug, but a long awkward hug with back pats.
Same.
1:20 "It's gonna be a long two years" Well hello from the future; the villain update came out in February 2020, and it's amazing.
The Roguelike God Himself
Villain: Urist McEvilface
Goal: Make a sandwich
Starts a criminal empire in order to fund ingredients to make more sandwiches.
*From elf
That's some dorfy shit over there
And thus, he stole a farm and started doing dark magic to create wheat, as it did not exist in this world.
Holy shit, I wrote that?
How did I gain creativity for one day???
Dwarf Fortress is one of my favorite games next to Cataclysm DDA.
Both games of UNMATCHED proportions by type_any AAAAA game today's & tommorows
will never forget a dwarf getting annoyed, punching a small child so he flies across the room and splatters on the wall so his mother goes crazy start kicking people and everyone going into a violent bloody tantrum spiral. Or facing a huge Titan made of snow, punching it once and it dies lol. Or my legendary artifact "Stench of Vomit" a wool sock that was used by a human female mercenary to clobber over 6 troglodytes to death with ^^
Have you tried RimWorld?
While coincidentally i m losing my life in Rimworld&mods last week (i really like it)..DF is the father AND the future if we live to the day all the features get implemented.In Rimworld there are just maths what decides by who and why and how hard you ll get raided-while in DF might be an actual rumor of an artifact you possess that "really" got from mouth-to-ear from the other side of the map..or might not.Rimworld its like a lite-arcade mode of DF :)
True, Rimworld needs at least several dozen mods to feel somewhat as deep like Dwarf Fortress. The only problem with Rimworld is when you launch it with 30+ mods it takes 20min to start lol. But like you say, even with hundreds of new tech, items, needs, factions, rimgenetics and bionics the game is still superficial in that you are not meant to conquer the planet, like Ludeon the creator of Rimworld said, a colony is only meant to last for a decade or so whereas in Dwarf Fortress current build a Fort can last 200-1000 years with entire family lineages depending on how much "fun" you want. That being said my current Rimworld game finally has all the "end game" tech mods since they got updated to 1.0, so that will be interesting.
After the Villain arc released, all the encounters and quests that I had taken for granted as being straightforward became much more nuanced and convoluted under the surface. I don't even know where to start to describe how or the ways in which my adventurer's actions became enmeshed with deeper intercharacter objectives.
I don't even play DF and this dude is hella interesting to listen to.
DF: The best game people never play
God I love this game more and more with every update. One of those few games that you can truly play however you want. My favorite is make a world then get my civilization going in a couple fortresses and stir up some drama in the world using them, then when they are set up how I want I start an adventure in said world. One of my favorite aspects is that you basically get to set your own narrative and story for your game. Truly an application of creativity.
DF is the only game i'm growing up with and i love it in many ways and not just as a game but as community with everything related to it. much appreciation for you Tarn and Zach.
Hope you're still here with us and playing DF my dude
The only thing I dislike about Dwarf Fortress is everytime I gen a new world, the historical figures if they have any events all just participated in competitions. That's it. I don't mind that, it's just that I can't hold competitions myself. :( I want to hold foot races between dwarves, or attract more visitors with an archery tournament. Maybe one day.
It'll probably come up in magic & myths update
I wish Tarn was doing talks about old/new/future things in DF and how they are (going to be) implemented MUCH MORE OFTEN.
And be given much more time.
It's always amazing to see what he's working on, how it works, and how his mind works...
MidnightSt then he would have less time to build the game.
The few hour or two talks won't hurt that much. A week or a month longer of waiting doesn't hurt anybody
He's a way better speaker than I'd anticipated, too.
DWARFCON WHEN
@@trashandchaos he has gotten much better. Practice.
Wow, this guy is a programming legend,
just have to say, shipbuilding/ privateer-ing would be cool to connect islands and would make a great addition to trade systems
I second this
Vehicle building mode needed now I want to make a infintely powered steam ship.
Oh god piracy in dwarf fortress sounds amazing.
Ships and uncageable/too big for tiny corridors multi-tile enemies in df are my hopes
Watching this video makes it feel possible to have a world that exists regardless of player interaction and then allow them to interact with it if they so choose.
That's just Dwarf Fortress as usual.
Conway's Game of Life
Tarn is a legendary genius
I love the way he says "We can create more bodies"
OMG this man is so far ahead of the rest of the computer games industry.
Someone needs to get Tarn a helmet, all those wonderful things rolling around in his head, the world would need to be protected. Genius is sometimes hard to understand, and every time I hear Tarn speak at a convention I have to sit back and listen less to what he is saying and just allow myself to absorb the genius. Not unlike Dwarf fortress where its less about what the game is doing and more about how you perceive what is happening in the game. Tarn is dwarf fortress, and I trust that all that stuff he tries so hard to get us to understand at his presentations, we will just understand once it is in the game. Keep up the good work Tarn and Zach.
"it's going to be a long two years" this man is a psychic!
Awesome, I really hope they keep adding and improving on the adventure mode in DF. When I first started playing, all I would play is adventure mode. I loved creating a character and making a story through his travels, but I always felt it just needed more depth to it. Although recently, I've been playing more and more of fortress mode (Thanks to Kruggsmash) but I am really just looking forward to more in adventures.
Yeah! Imagine a long spanning story including one of your fortresses? Making an adventurer to learn more and act on it!
I've watched this about 5 times now. Still blows my mind.
Can I just say, that dwarf fortress will one day be the reason we discover that all life is a simulation programmed by TodayOneTheGreatest and our universe resides in a folder called "region2"
I like how his presentation uses dwarf fortress references to explain stuff... Enemies being represented by ampersands for example
He was spot on with that guess of 2 years, damn!
Funny how the most advanced game AI is found in a game where every NPC is just a single letter.
You would need a super computer to fun DF in 4k 3d rendering.
the AI is more complex than human beings in dwarf fortress IMO.
@@demonshadowundergalaxworld9144i don't know man, when a butterfly gets in my door frame i don't let a raider charge in my door haha
@@timbergman2511 Is this a bug report?
@@baronvonbeandip witty
Tarn Adams - a razor sharp mind, driven by unbridled creativity.
This has inadvertently helped me in creating an overarching villain for my dnd game
Legends mode really is great for DnD
the muttered 'Until they eat you' when mentioning peace wit the elves was worth a laugh
Dwarf Fortress has been a game I have been obsessed with for over 20 years and I can't even play it. Can't wait to get my hands on the steam version. I have spent more hours watching videos on dwarf fortress then I have played the majority of the games i own on steam.
I must have watched this talk 15 times at least. Thank you for making this available.
I love this guy so much. Such a wholesome personality.
I have barely played DF but I love everything about it and surrounding it. I've decided I'm going to start supporting the patreon once the Mythology stuff is out, since that seems like a cool point to get really into the game.
The Adams brothers are going to be responsible for our version of Oasis.
Eventually.
Cuz afterall, they're our wonderwall
Holodeck DF would be lit
Be a legit overseer of a civilization and make bizarre fortresses or be an adventurer exploring these eldritch deathtraps.
I cant wait to be a legendary wrestler elephant man. I'll break so many necks.
Oasis is utter wank tho
As if their work isn't 20 times more interesting and influential than that fanfic dipshit.
Eventually, books that are artifacts will actually be books that you can read, well at this pace it will be, bless you Tarn
the 'sending off' has so much potential. i can make myself king was my first inclination. but on further reflexion, the best use of such a system would be to send them off to gather information about places. so you know what goes on in the world
Canmex kings are just empty vessels for what their spymasters pour in, after all
I'm a new player who just got into DF, and i clicked on this video to understand a bit what's under the hood. Well. Hearing these things was interesting, and gave me a lot of ideas on what to do and have fun with in adventure mode.
these two are absolute gaming legends.
Tynan Sylvester slept through this presentation.
Rimworld: uh oh your ship blow up now you live on a random planet with 5 extremely specific factions
What’s that? All 3 of your survivors are useless drug addicts? Prepare for a repetitive raid by some random civilization with no backstory. After all Who wouldn’t want to fly across the planet to assault some random settlement.
Haha you died funny moment you get nothing from losing by the way your world is just erased.
Don’t worry instead of updating the game I’ll sell you a DLC I made by gluing together community mods. An extra $19.99
Thank you Tynan Sylvester, very cool!
UA-cam User damn this is a stupid comment. Rimworld is not even close to DF in complexity but was updated for several years as an early access product.
Sorry that you think every game is aspiring to be DF and must keep updating freely until it stops being what it was and becomes that.
@@orlandolomelino2184 assume things, ok
@@orlandolomelino2184 But on the topic of World-Building, the world-building in Rimworld is terrible. There are hardly any factions and they are randomly scattered around the map. Even if your colony is across the planet and you've destroyed all local enemy settlements they will literally trek thousands of miles just to attack you with a few people(Something not done in dwarf fortress only local factions dare to interact with you). It's seriously not that hard to make the factions more realistic but Tynan hasn't made any major changes in years, not counting the pointless DLC which added royalty for some reason.
At least the deeper lore of the game is mildly interesting? But never comes into play at all. So that's great there are "Glitterworlds" and "Urbworlds" but from a gameplay perspective, those are nonexistent.
really nice talk
i think it'd be interesting to see heroes form in sort of the same way.
Tarn is a genius. Straight up.
I think to really get this out your playthrough you have to dive into the history mode. Because if you're walking around in adventure mode, pretty much every town will tell you they have bandits, thieves, monsters and a missing object (or whatever). It's always a huge list of problems, which makes me wonder if they're all just refering to the same thing and the system is going a bit haywire. But only if you start reading the history it kinda makes more sense. It's a cool concept for sure
@@JosephAvenetti For sure. Boats being added would be a great win and would help so much in selecting an embark location.
Great stuff. Similar veins and inspirations to what I've been thinking about when it comes to higher purpose, though I reckon Mr Adams is proven to have a bit more gumption to see them done, and I like that he's put some thought further down other veins than I have.
Imagine if when going through legends, you could look at kings who "121 Held a war council with o+ Ariah Urin and o/> Oln Tarnfoot. Oln suggested a feinting strategy, but Ariah convinced the king to take a direct approach"
Since the events are interactions between historical figures, they could be recorded in the history. Would give a direct point for HFs "assuming an identity" to convince their enemy to take a bad war approach. Could also lead to the losing advisor in the debate getting angry and trying to implement their plan, or trying to assassinate their king to put the king's son on the throne.
The sky is the limit. With how complex DF is right now, when he still calls it an alpha, imagine how complex it will be in 2475AD when he finishes it!
in Virtual Reality goggles that sends sensation signals to your 'real' body but you cant tell whats real anymore so you keep playing until you die
@@joshualorden697 that's the state it's already in, we don't need the goggles
@@NoConsequenc3 ANOTHER LAYER
You could basically make/mod in a Hercule Poirot or Miss Marple like character who goes around solving crimes and suspicious murders after they implement this villain scheme in the game. Or something like the Ankh-Morpork City Watch from Terry Pratchett's Discword books (just using the already existing military squad options). A generic, emergent police procedural kind of thing. Pretty damn awesome.
Why is the algorithm proposing this again? I've already seen it, loved it!
Tarn Adams menaces with spikes of genius.
The word genius gets thrown around like a ball these days but what we have here is a modern day Michael Angelo
Never restrain yourself from exploring a 'pie in the sky'. Your foresight is fear, let it go. Indulge in creativity and daydreaming until you flesh out a solid tangible thing. That is creation!! Do it bro! :D Love ur game!
When can I be a clown released from the circus by the managers at the beginning of the world
Holy shit, year later and he added clowns being released during worldgen
@@istivanp8747 cool,im new in this game but i watch tutorials and i love more and more this game.
Thank you Tarn. My favorite games are CK2, GTA: San Andreas, EU (3-4), Hard Time (by Mdickie), The Guild games and Mount and Blade. All of these involve interaction between factions, and that is the "genre" that I love the most. The reason I play DF2 is just for adventure mode, it is the different factions that intrigue me so much. Especially how it has multiple levels. Right now there is not much to do, but it is still enough to entertain me. The factions in DF2 are so many compared to other games, it is truly overdosed on factions, which is great.
My dream game is that you play on a microlevel and you can engage inside factions on all levels, as a solider, a super solider that turns tides, a faction leader, a wizard apprentice, a member of a bandit group, an entertainer and so on. I think Adventure Mode DF2 is destined to become the greatest game in this "faction" genre. I had high hopes for The Guild 3 but it turned out to be SHIT, it seems that DF2 will be the best "faction game".
what is df2
dwarf fortress
@@plsegott Theres is a 2nd one?
You would love Caves of Qud. Every action you do affects your relationship with a faction in one way or another.
@@sGeeMoney no. The full title of df is "Slaves to Armok 2: Dwarf Fortress". That's what he's thinking of.
Dwarf fortress is my most favorite game ever, hands down.
Need Villains update.After my usual train in adventurer mode nobody dares to challenge me.They rarely even fight back when i start cutting ppl left and right.
I wanted to hear more though :S Interesting stuff
Well, it’s back, and it’s coming this week
COME ON you peeps! No one had good questions like "I want to be a hedonistic adventurer that propagates an army of children and has a bunch of woman that are plotting to kill me. Can you do this?"
funny thing is half of what you said literally happened but ended in one of the most messed up ways ever
Just came here to say Tarn is a great name.
Armok bless the Toady One
Yes! Pirates is so much fun I wish there were more games like it!!
If you are talking about Sid Meier's Pirates! then you should look into Starsector, if you haven't already.
@@JimJamTheAdmin thanks for the tip
Villains Update gang rise up!
Villain update is out!
really cool
I cant wait for the steam release and the 1.0 update coming in 2050
Outdated, I know, but an adventure mode update? I did not check the wiki yet about diplomacy but as he said, so far the game is about spawning and destroying mostly, right?
I am more curious about expanding peaceful relationships, sending out own new settlements, switching control between main and off-site settlements, repopulating creatures without modding and mending war relationships that started because you misclicked a wooden item in the trade menu which dooms your FPS to the point you retire out of sheer boredom...
my favorite magic item is / but sometimes i go wild and use * when fighting Es
Long 2 years :')
Anyone else think it’s ironic that videos of DF gameplay get more views than the mind behind DF talking about its future?
thats because most of the video watchers are trying to learn and failing but stick around for the journey i almost rage quit a few times but i keep cominb back
I would've asked him if its possible for us to start out as the hero and then at a certain point along the way if we discover this is about a Necromancer who has ambition to do this or that could we track him down and then offer to become his new apprentice?
This man implemented interactive story generator
I wish characters would carry diaries on them so you could see what they were planning if they die
Dave Mathews of roguelikes.
This sounds amazing. I haven't played much dwarf fortress and none if the roguelike style gameplay. How much of what he's talking about is actually in the game now?
You can check the dev log: bay12games.com/dwarves for weekly updates to progress. He doesn't state everything he's programmed in, because he likes for their to be surprises to players when they download the next update, and things for them to find on their own, but the main line is all stated with interesting stories to show progress.
The entire Villains update is just an inbetween from main development to give players something to occupy themselves with in DF during what is called the "Big Wait", which will be the programming of the Myth And Magic release, which promises to be absolutely EPIC!!!! Randomly generated magic systems, and random entire world building myth (e.g. This mountain range was created when this god slew a forest titan which then became the mountains).
Would be interesting to use a predator-prey model for the necromancer and his enemies in simulation.
to be fair if this was ever ported to have at least very simple graphics this could be best game of all time. Some in core of their heart can always hope.
@@VarenvelDarakus it IS the best game of all time. Graphics are a filter, not an issue. A game doesn't have to appeal to everyone for it to be good, and often it's games that try to appeal to everyone that fail to be good at all.
@@VarenvelDarakus its on steam now dude
@@robotcalus I know , got it same day it got out , been on my wishlist it appeared on steam , but thanks for thinking about me kind internet stranger, happy holidays/new year to you.
fuck yeah, waiting for magic system to start a new fortress.
My last fortress was a blast, though I want to build more a Warhammer Dwarven type fortress next game.
If all of this is completely invisible to the player, it can get really frustrating.
Put in an oracle, to give the player a Destiny. =)
Such a badass
what font is this?! same as Bob Nystroms presentation it looks like .Edit- ok no it’s different. I really want to find (or i’ll just end up drawing my own) the font from Bobs
I'm sorry, but when I hear "go cause trouble" in the context of DF, I just imagine a character with Martial Arts maxed, going around and dislocating people's legs (which makes them pass out from pain) and then killing them when there's time. O:-)
14:50 Zombie Snowball :-)
All presentations should be done in Fixedsys
Tarn should collab with John Carmack so they can program the matrix together.
I WANT THE NEW VERSION RELEASE.
I want to make my fortress. I'm not into adventure mode
The adventure mode is basically broken right now (playable, but broken if you don't mind the oxymoron), so I'm not crazy about it either. Once we get 1.0 release though, I imagine it being just as enjoyable, if not more so, than fortress mode.
noice
...right?