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Vegeta would've klled Goku and all z fighters then Goku would've came back turned ss and kllled him or beat him up but spared him to convince him to join forces eventually finding out about the androids I think it'd go something like that.
@@moneyworld7517But that doesnt add up since Vegeta would have to gone on Earth hooked up with Bulma to conceive Trunks which would go back to warn Goku about the Androids in the first place. Not only that, since Vegeta killed the Z fighters like you said (which includes Piccolo) they wouldnt have Dragon Balls to wish Goku back.
@@moneyworld7517Nah you’re right. Vegeta was still evil in his heart. He only got with bulma cause he was too weak to challenge goku and she was confident enough to boss him around
Be proud of yall self's for doing this Idc what critics would say. Keep up the grind and good work!! There's only up afterwords don't loose your vision!
I think this is a timeline where either Vegeta or Goku managed to get a clean shot on Frieza with his guard down, most likely Vegeta, which would ultimately result in his death via the wound, or just being too injured to use his full strength. In that moment, Freiza would strike Vegeta down in defiance before Goku probably could clean Frieza up just with Kaio-Ken. Then, after being revived, Vegeta would be enraged not only that Kakarot stole his one chance at vengeance and any satisfaction from Vegeta doing most of the work to injure Frieza, but then to be revived, and in his perspective, pitied by Goku. Like he was looking down on him, or something like that. That was my rational of the story, filling in the pieces.
I believe this is based on the "Bringer of Death" fanfic from a while ago by "npberryhill" (starting at around chapter 8 if you don't want to read everything before it)
Vegeta is pissed at Goku because he stepped into his fight with Frieza, distracting him and giving Frieza a window to kill him. This is after Goku kills Frieza and brings Vegeta back
Vegeta either wins or draws. Goku either loses or draws. The power levels if this is Namek saga are actually pretty close but Goku won't survive Kaioken x20 at this stage of his development. Even if he were to beat Vegeta in the limited window of time he has here, he crashes out and straight dies right after. Smart money's on Vegeta to win though. That window before Kaioken wears off is not a long one.
Poor thing is Vegeta don't even have Kaioken or any technique 😂 Even after achieve Super super Forms, Vegeta has always been 5 one step behind from GOKU..!
@@winstonlewis5630 Looking at the official power levels at that point in the series, I *way* overestimated Vegeta. Looks like the animator did too. If this is the Vegeta that fought Frieza and died canonically then he's got a power level of 250k. The SSJ boost puts him at 12.5M. Goku's base level at that point is 3M. Kaioken x4 would put it close enough to be a tight match decided by skill rather than raw power. Kaioken x5 or x6 would make it 100% Goku's win. Kaioken x20 would've put Goku on par with final form Frieza's 50%.
Although I agree with you. My money forever on Goku. He showed in their very 1st fight. Goku at a power level disadvantage, surpassed Vegeta. “It was the use of ki that allowed Goku to be The Strongest In The Universe.” - Akira Toriyama. Goku should’ve died vs Vegeta when he pushed his body far passed its limit. Goku is the most gifted “ki” user in all the multiverse. Earth was at deaths door.. Beerus nearly took out Earth. Somehoh, pushing pass his limits, yet again. Goku was able to reawaken The Saiyan God Transformation long after the power expired in the fight. It has an expiration on it. Not only that, Goku was able to absorb Lord Beerus’ Death “ki” ball that resembled the son. When Beerus asked him how did he do it? Goku couldn’t give him an answer. Goku’s body and inner “ki” energy is able to manipulate “ki” energy in such a way. It goes far beyond Goku’s comprehension. And Goku is a battle Genius. Goku always finds a way to rise to the challenge. My moneys on Goku. Why? All of DBZ highlighted how special Goku is, compared to all others. I mean, He Mastered Ultra Instinct @ only 41 or 42 years of age. The 12 Gods Of Destruction have lived for millions to billions & trillions of years. In all that time, none of them ever came remotely close to Mastering That Divine Technique/ Transformation that Goku did.
The kiaoken is such an under rated technique. If goku trained enough with it he wouldnt even need super saiyan. His base form would get strong enough on its own to ko anyone.
That's a REALLY REALLY cool animation, if goku wants to match vegeta then he needs to use like a times 50 kaioken, since super saiyan is a 50 multiplier
@@petrospago3515 well yea I forgot goku got a huge zenkai boost and he was way stronger than vegeta, after all he did way more damage to frieza in base than vegeta
This is fire.. Goku - 3,000,000. Goku[Kaio-Ken x20] - 60,000,000. Vegeta - 1,200,000. Super Saiyan Vegeta - 60,000,000. Surprising, but the fight is even, more or less. Although Vegeta might get the win, Kaio-Ken is far mo unstable than SSJ. Goku 3 million x 20 = 60 Million. Vegeta 1.2 Million x 50 = 60 Million. Vegeta’s lucky he ain’t vs Final Form Frieza 100% - 120 Million. Both Goku & Vegeta could neva hope to beat Frieza like this. Smart move depriving Goku of SSJ. He’d mop the floor with Vegeta.
@@IDK-dude1 2,500,000 x 50 is 125,000,000. This is also after he died so he came back which counts as another zenkai cause in the anime when he comes back to life he says he feels stronger so 2,600,000 maybe or somewhere around there and 2,600,000 x 50 is 130,000,000. So either way when vegeta goes super saiyan goku's fucked unless vegeta plays around enough and he goes super saiyan somehow, which I can't see happening because namek saga vegeta was a different breed.
@@Arzcalisthenic Oh my.. Goku 3 million x 25 = 75 Million. Knowing this, technically Goku mudstomps SSJ Vegeta. Reminiscent of Goku[Kaio-Ken x3] - 21,600 vs Vegeta - 18,000 their very 1st battle. That’s dope. Bulma “It’s Over 21,000!!!” That means this.. is identical to that.. Vegeta “It’s Over 8,000!!!” Goku’s Kaio-Ken x3 cannot Exceed 21,999.. Just as Goku’s Base Form Power Level Also cannot Exceed 8,999. Despite the “It’s Over 9,000!!!” Dub error we all love so much. Although I get it, from a storytellin perspective, this fight will last longer cuz it’s a darn dope concept.
@@IDK-dude1 2.5 Million is too close to Goku’s 3 Mill. Vegeta managed to get unbelievably Stronger. Many fans overestimate Vegeta’s p.l. to make him closer to Goku’s. When that’s uncommon. More often than not, it becomes a common theme throughout DBZ. Vegeta gets massively Stronger, only to find out, he’s not even half as strong as Goku’s Max Power Level. In The Buu Arc, Vegeta finally accepts the truth & that acceptance is the 1st step that allows him to grow far more powerful and become Goku’s equal, more or less. Vegeta struggled to surpass Gohan on his own. However after he accepts Goku’s way of life and training, Vegeta easily surpassed Gohan. Despite initially being weaker than Vegeta, Goku has always trained far more effectively, thus granting him a much higher Zenkai Boost. This is especially highlighted in The Cell Arc. Vegeta thought he reached the Pinnacle of Power. Little did he know, if he got just 1 mo Zenkai Boost, he’d be Stronger than Goku. Vegeta @ 1.2 Million is literally 1% compared to Final Form Frieza 120 Million. Captain Ginyu 120,000 is 0.01%. That is identical to SSJ3 Goku versus Lord Beerus. Meaning on a scale of 1-10. SSJ3 Goku is 0.01%. That’s an Ant compared to a mountain. Or rather, an Ant compared to the whole planet. One cannot even fathom the level of power the other has. Frieza Arc; Base Form Frieza - 530,000. 1st Transformation Frieza - 775,000. 2nd Transformation Frieza - 1,000,000. Final Form Frieza - 30,000,000. Final Form Frieza 50% - 60,000,000. Final Form Frieza 100% - 120,000,000. Krillin (85,000) Gohan (750,000) Piccolo (800,000). Million Dollar Question, Why couldn’t Krilin, Gohan & Piccolo see nor react to F.F.F’s movements? Answer: Bcuz none of them had a power level at 1 Million. Vegeta was the only one on the battlefield that had a p.l. @ 1 Million or greater. Krillin, Gohan & Piccolo all have different power levels.. Gohan & Piccolo are Massively Overwhelmingly & Exceedingly Stronger than Krillin. Yet all 3 cannot see move nor react to a Massively Suppressed F.F.F. Why? Bcuz none of the 3, Krillin, Gohan & Piccolo crossed the 1 Mill p.l. Threshold. This is a power scaling feat. Piccolo is The Strongest of the 3, yet he is still 200,000 times weaker than a million. It makes sense why he was utterly destroyed & no match for 2nd Form Frieza (1,000,000). Now many fans think 1st Transformation Frieza had a power level had 1 Mill. Here’s the thing, Frieza Lied. But he didn’t know he was lying. This is the point in the story that Goku’s and co have no idea how strong their power levels are numerically. They can only sort it out by feel of their “ki” energy aka power level. Frieza stated his power level increases hugely every time he transforms. He had a total of 3 transformations. This statement is not contradicted. What do Krillin (85,000) Gohan (750,000) & Piccolo (800,000) have in common despite having different power level? The are all in the same category (Under 1 Million). This is why after Vegeta crosses the threshold, to him it looks like Krillin, Gohan & Piccolo are standing still. The weaker Z fighters cannot see or fight Frieza bcuz Frieza, Vegeta & Goku are all in a higher realm of power. (One Millions Place Value).
For Goku to defeat Vegeta as a Super Saiyan in the Frieza Saga, he would need a Kaio-Ken multiplier sufficient to surpass Vegeta's estimated fighting power, which would be between 100,000,000 and 125,000,000. Based on Goku's base power (3,000,000), the calculation would be: Determine the required Kaio-Ken: To equal 100,000,000: Goku would need a Kaio-Ken of approximately 34x. To equal 125,000,000: Goku would need a Kaio-Ken of approximately 42x. Kaio-Ken viability over 20x: In the Frieza Saga, Goku was already at his limit when using Kaio-Ken 20x. Multipliers of 34x to 42x would have been impossible for him at that time, as the physical strain would be so severe that his body would not be able to withstand it. Therefore, the Super Saiyan was essential - a transformation that provided a much greater increase in power without the same risks. Conclusion: Even with a Kaio-Ken 34x or higher, it would be impossible for Goku to beat Vegeta in the Frieza Saga due to his body's limitations when using such high levels of Kaio-Ken. Super Saiyan was the true "next step" he needed. Awesome video bro, please continue
Bro..... part two for sure! This was done extremely well! I like this concept of "what if" which is essentially what this is, the DBZ version of Avengers "What If?" This one specifically if Vegeta reached Super Sayian first and Goku being able to multiple is power with the Kaioken making it competitive with Super Sayian. If Goku did a Kaioken 50x that should be the equivalent of Goku going Super Sayian according to Akira Toriyama saying SSJ was a 50 times multiplier of a Sayians base power. If my memory serves me correctly. That being said if he did do a what if scenario he needs to explain where is Frezia right now if Goku is not a Super Sayian he clearly hasn't defeated him yet, and looks like Vegeta became on due to being pissed off Frezia killing him but then being revived by the dragon balls on Earth then Dende still has his wish to make. So this could actually be fricken awesome but some things need answering before getting to deep into fighting and then let them go at him. You know if Goku manages a Kaioken 50x could be argued he killed Frezia that way being that it was equivalent to Super saiyan power then Vegeta came back and now has opportunity to get his revenge on Goku after just reaching Super Sayian since Frezia would be dead or extremely injured, Vegeta will want to test his new found power of the SSJ form against Goku. So like I said this could be done really really well depending how far the writer and artist wants to go. I bet if he did regular What If stories on UA-cam for Dragon Ball he would easily come up with consistent millions of views.
@@thatonebrokenbroddah5292 ohhh... this is from a video game? I thought this was fan made. I never did get into the video games, but I've read every manga, and watched every single DragonBall adaption.
@@diamonds4days893 no normally kaioken is a multiplier in itself of 2 and if he did a kaioken x25 that would just be 25 times his base power. Assuming his body can handle it.
The reason for Vegeta going Super Saiyan here is perfect. Killed by the guy who killed everyone he cared for and his home, his worst fear being realised with one certain absolute last chance at redemption and revenge. Goku doing a one hand Kamehameha was a bit slack :P The reason him fighting Goku could have just been right after Vegeta destroying Frieza.
Imagine if Goku (and Vegeta, Gohan...) never reach Super Saiyan, like Frieza died from the spirit bomb and Krilin survived. Goku would have keep training harder and harder to renforce his body and finally be able to use kaioken at a highter level !
Unless Goku pulled a False Super Saiyan (Non-Canon) + Kaioken 10x, or force to goes above Kaioken 40x, I don't see him winning at this point since the kaioken is too risky to use Or absorb the spirit bomb, but he might not have the time to do that
when people add a call to action at the end try to leave it as black screen or a thumbnail pic or something so your next video and subscribe options don't block half your work at the end. An extra 5 seconds of black screen added on the end will fix that
i never understood why Gokus body stopped being able to handle higher kaio kens. After his gravity training arc he was able to handle a 10x without a problem, but his zenkai boost which brought him to 3M from 90K had no effect on his kaio ken limits
You can tell a Vegeta fan made this. And why does Goku just *stop*? He smacks Veg then just stands there for 40 seconds until just giving up. That is very unGoku-like.
So im guessing in this timeline Goku beat Frieza without needing to turn Super Saiyan and Vegeta got resurrected got zenkai boost and SSJ first and wants to test Goku but also theres no one to oppose him
max power levels would be similar but problem is Goku can only sustain a Kaioken x20 for a minute or two tops and at major expense to his stamina and physical condition, whereas Vegeta could chill in Super Saiyan for quite a while. But you know...I always thought the Kaioken was so cool so I want to route for it. In order for Goku to win in this scenario he has to end the fight quickly.
The speculation is very accurate, ssj vegeta would have be in 60m during the namek saga as frieza was literally toyed with base vegeta in his 4th form without powering up so 1.2 million in base after zenkai is about right.
Vegeta and Goku in these forms are close but Goku's is much quicker, stronger but the energy to be controlled would be too much too handle as opposed to Vegetas SSJ controlled form. Goku would win but at the expense of him dying. Its just too much energy Goku is burning in a short time span.
It looks like Vegeta went Super saiyan when he was crying and killed Frieza. He also decided to kill Gohan Krillin and Piccolo, so then when Goku appeared he got mad and decided to teach Vegeta a lesson. In the end Vegeta was about to win until Goku goes super saiyan to teach him a lesson.
So if Vegeta is at 2,000,000 x50 = 100,000,000, and Goku’s at 3,000,000, then this has to be either Kaioken times 40 or 50 which would put him at 120,000,000 - 150,000,000 bc it looks like he’s stronger than Vegeta but consumes more stamina
At that point of time goku could still just use kaioken x10 instead and win because apparently vegetas power lvl was 500,000 in his base while goku’s base was around 3 million so Sjj would boost vegeta to 25 million but kaioken times 10 goku would be 30 million
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Shit ass music
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Sparkling Zero What If: What If Vegeta Turned Super Saiyan Before Goku?
Vegeta would've klled Goku and all z fighters then Goku would've came back turned ss and kllled him or beat him up but spared him to convince him to join forces eventually finding out about the androids I think it'd go something like that.
@@moneyworld7517But that doesnt add up since Vegeta would have to gone on Earth hooked up with Bulma to conceive Trunks which would go back to warn Goku about the Androids in the first place.
Not only that, since Vegeta killed the Z fighters like you said (which includes Piccolo) they wouldnt have Dragon Balls to wish Goku back.
@@SiNKarnage oh yeah your right I thought I was cooking but didn't even have the right ingredients let me just turn the stove off 🤣
I hope your right and we get that
@@moneyworld7517Nah you’re right. Vegeta was still evil in his heart. He only got with bulma cause he was too weak to challenge goku and she was confident enough to boss him around
1:18 that pose from burst limit is fire
Really cool sound rework! It's interesting how you managed to preserve most of the original intention behind the plot. Thanks for accrediting me also.
Sparking Zero what-ifs looking good
It doesn't look good
😢 Liar
Fr lol peak
Be proud of yall self's for doing this Idc what critics would say.
Keep up the grind and good work!! There's only up afterwords don't loose your vision!
Cool animation.... but.... Vegeta attacks Goku bc Freiza killed Vegeta? huh lol
😂 Right? It's a crazy storyline for sure. Gotta love Saiyan pride
I'm so confused
I think this is a timeline where either Vegeta or Goku managed to get a clean shot on Frieza with his guard down, most likely Vegeta, which would ultimately result in his death via the wound, or just being too injured to use his full strength. In that moment, Freiza would strike Vegeta down in defiance before Goku probably could clean Frieza up just with Kaio-Ken.
Then, after being revived, Vegeta would be enraged not only that Kakarot stole his one chance at vengeance and any satisfaction from Vegeta doing most of the work to injure Frieza, but then to be revived, and in his perspective, pitied by Goku. Like he was looking down on him, or something like that. That was my rational of the story, filling in the pieces.
I believe this is based on the "Bringer of Death" fanfic from a while ago by "npberryhill" (starting at around chapter 8 if you don't want to read everything before it)
Vegeta is pissed at Goku because he stepped into his fight with Frieza, distracting him and giving Frieza a window to kill him. This is after Goku kills Frieza and brings Vegeta back
Vegeta either wins or draws. Goku either loses or draws. The power levels if this is Namek saga are actually pretty close but Goku won't survive Kaioken x20 at this stage of his development. Even if he were to beat Vegeta in the limited window of time he has here, he crashes out and straight dies right after. Smart money's on Vegeta to win though. That window before Kaioken wears off is not a long one.
Poor thing is Vegeta don't even have Kaioken or any technique 😂
Even after achieve Super super Forms, Vegeta has always been 5 one step behind from GOKU..!
Vegeta would be twice as strong in this scenario
@@winstonlewis5630 Looking at the official power levels at that point in the series, I *way* overestimated Vegeta. Looks like the animator did too. If this is the Vegeta that fought Frieza and died canonically then he's got a power level of 250k. The SSJ boost puts him at 12.5M. Goku's base level at that point is 3M. Kaioken x4 would put it close enough to be a tight match decided by skill rather than raw power. Kaioken x5 or x6 would make it 100% Goku's win. Kaioken x20 would've put Goku on par with final form Frieza's 50%.
@@KelbPanthera vegeta died at 2.5 million power level
Although I agree with you. My money forever on Goku. He showed in their very 1st fight. Goku at a power level disadvantage, surpassed Vegeta.
“It was the use of ki that allowed Goku to be The Strongest In The Universe.” - Akira Toriyama.
Goku should’ve died vs Vegeta when he pushed his body far passed its limit. Goku is the most gifted “ki” user in all the multiverse. Earth was at deaths door.. Beerus nearly took out Earth. Somehoh, pushing pass his limits, yet again. Goku was able to reawaken The Saiyan God Transformation long after the power expired in the fight. It has an expiration on it. Not only that, Goku was able to absorb Lord Beerus’ Death “ki” ball that resembled the son. When Beerus asked him how did he do it? Goku couldn’t give him an answer.
Goku’s body and inner “ki” energy is able to manipulate “ki” energy in such a way. It goes far beyond Goku’s comprehension. And Goku is a battle Genius. Goku always finds a way to rise to the challenge. My moneys on Goku. Why? All of DBZ highlighted how special Goku is, compared to all others.
I mean, He Mastered Ultra Instinct @ only 41 or 42 years of age. The 12 Gods Of Destruction have lived for millions to billions & trillions of years. In all that time, none of them ever came remotely close to Mastering That Divine Technique/ Transformation that Goku did.
Goku opened the 8th gate of death for a moment there
What a good fan animation, that is, the fluidity and colors, ufff, and what a good fight between Goku and Vegeta!!!
He stole it,it isn't his.
I ALREADY SAW THIS A WHILE AGO , THERE'S A CONTINUE ?? OR NOT ? I NEED IT !!
yo igual
They reuploaded it with audio from the anime, aka basically stole the shit
They put the link to the original in description so I guess they at least gave credit
Go to the original channel not this thief
Do yall even read the description? He clearly credited the artist
Pretty neat video ! Incredible quality !
Great animation!
He didn't make it.he stole it
1:01 What is Goku's plan?
Defeating frieza by himself?
Calling an IRS audit on Frieza's organization for fraudulent charitable donations to buy time to train on King Kai's world some more?
To dodge taxes
There's something very funny about Vegeta going Super Saiyan because of how outraged he is at the idea of being killed by Frieza.
I think I saw this before on a Vegeta fanfic, Bringer of Death? not sure though.
You're correct.
Vegeta has killed millions if not billions of ppl. Bringer of Death fits.
Exactly
The kiaoken is such an under rated technique. If goku trained enough with it he wouldnt even need super saiyan. His base form would get strong enough on its own to ko anyone.
This was amazing! Love everything about it!
Damn The Animation Is So Beautiful 🤩.
Cool, great job, dude
very good animation. sensei!
That's a REALLY REALLY cool animation, if goku wants to match vegeta then he needs to use like a times 50 kaioken, since super saiyan is a 50 multiplier
I believe goku was stronger after zenkai boost compared to vegeta. Well vegeta too got a zenkai i believe cause he was killed. So
You’re not taking their base power into consideration
Zenkai’s are only gained if you survive the encounter. Otherwise Vegeta post sacrifice against Buu would be way stronger.
in namek saga goku in base was almost 6 times stronger than vegeta so he only needs a 10x kaioken to fold him like a omelet 😂
@@petrospago3515 well yea I forgot goku got a huge zenkai boost and he was way stronger than vegeta, after all he did way more damage to frieza in base than vegeta
Interesting concept. Interesting battle. I’m sure Goku would lose but put up a good fight. Would be crazy to see though
This is fire..
Goku - 3,000,000. Goku[Kaio-Ken x20] - 60,000,000.
Vegeta - 1,200,000. Super Saiyan Vegeta - 60,000,000.
Surprising, but the fight is even, more or less. Although Vegeta might get the win, Kaio-Ken is far mo unstable than SSJ. Goku 3 million x 20 = 60 Million. Vegeta 1.2 Million x 50 = 60 Million. Vegeta’s lucky he ain’t vs Final Form Frieza 100% - 120 Million. Both Goku & Vegeta could neva hope to beat Frieza like this.
Smart move depriving Goku of SSJ. He’d mop the floor with Vegeta.
I thought vegeta pl was 2,400,000
Goku using kaioken 25x in here you must watch the original video in description bro.
@@IDK-dude1 2,500,000 x 50 is 125,000,000. This is also after he died so he came back which counts as another zenkai cause in the anime when he comes back to life he says he feels stronger so 2,600,000 maybe or somewhere around there and 2,600,000 x 50 is 130,000,000. So either way when vegeta goes super saiyan goku's fucked unless vegeta plays around enough and he goes super saiyan somehow, which I can't see happening because namek saga vegeta was a different breed.
@@Arzcalisthenic Oh my.. Goku 3 million x 25 = 75 Million. Knowing this, technically Goku mudstomps SSJ Vegeta. Reminiscent of Goku[Kaio-Ken x3] - 21,600 vs Vegeta - 18,000 their very 1st battle. That’s dope. Bulma “It’s Over 21,000!!!” That means this.. is identical to that.. Vegeta “It’s Over 8,000!!!” Goku’s Kaio-Ken x3 cannot Exceed 21,999.. Just as Goku’s Base Form Power Level Also cannot Exceed 8,999. Despite the “It’s Over 9,000!!!” Dub error we all love so much.
Although I get it, from a storytellin perspective, this fight will last longer cuz it’s a darn dope concept.
@@IDK-dude1 2.5 Million is too close to Goku’s 3 Mill. Vegeta managed to get unbelievably Stronger. Many fans overestimate Vegeta’s p.l. to make him closer to Goku’s. When that’s uncommon. More often than not, it becomes a common theme throughout DBZ. Vegeta gets massively Stronger, only to find out, he’s not even half as strong as Goku’s Max Power Level. In The Buu Arc, Vegeta finally accepts the truth & that acceptance is the 1st step that allows him to grow far more powerful and become Goku’s equal, more or less. Vegeta struggled to surpass Gohan on his own. However after he accepts Goku’s way of life and training, Vegeta easily surpassed Gohan.
Despite initially being weaker than Vegeta, Goku has always trained far more effectively, thus granting him a much higher Zenkai Boost. This is especially highlighted in The Cell Arc.
Vegeta thought he reached the Pinnacle of Power. Little did he know, if he got just 1 mo Zenkai Boost, he’d be Stronger than Goku.
Vegeta @ 1.2 Million is literally 1% compared to Final Form Frieza 120 Million. Captain Ginyu 120,000 is 0.01%. That is identical to SSJ3 Goku versus Lord Beerus. Meaning on a scale of 1-10. SSJ3 Goku is 0.01%. That’s an Ant compared to a mountain. Or rather, an Ant compared to the whole planet. One cannot even fathom the level of power the other has.
Frieza Arc; Base Form Frieza - 530,000. 1st Transformation Frieza - 775,000. 2nd Transformation Frieza - 1,000,000. Final Form Frieza - 30,000,000. Final Form Frieza 50% - 60,000,000. Final Form Frieza 100% - 120,000,000.
Krillin (85,000) Gohan (750,000) Piccolo (800,000). Million Dollar Question, Why couldn’t Krilin, Gohan & Piccolo see nor react to F.F.F’s movements?
Answer: Bcuz none of them had a power level at 1 Million. Vegeta was the only one on the battlefield that had a p.l. @ 1 Million or greater. Krillin, Gohan & Piccolo all have different power levels.. Gohan & Piccolo are Massively Overwhelmingly & Exceedingly Stronger than Krillin. Yet all 3 cannot see move nor react to a Massively Suppressed F.F.F. Why? Bcuz none of the 3, Krillin, Gohan & Piccolo crossed the 1 Mill p.l. Threshold. This is a power scaling feat. Piccolo is The Strongest of the 3, yet he is still 200,000 times weaker than a million. It makes sense why he was utterly destroyed & no match for 2nd Form Frieza (1,000,000).
Now many fans think 1st Transformation Frieza had a power level had 1 Mill. Here’s the thing, Frieza Lied. But he didn’t know he was lying. This is the point in the story that Goku’s and co have no idea how strong their power levels are numerically. They can only sort it out by feel of their “ki” energy aka power level.
Frieza stated his power level increases hugely every time he transforms. He had a total of 3 transformations. This statement is not contradicted.
What do Krillin (85,000) Gohan (750,000) & Piccolo (800,000) have in common despite having different power level? The are all in the same category (Under 1 Million). This is why after Vegeta crosses the threshold, to him it looks like Krillin, Gohan & Piccolo are standing still. The weaker Z fighters cannot see or fight Frieza bcuz Frieza, Vegeta & Goku are all in a higher realm of power. (One Millions Place Value).
Dope nice animation
The image of vegeta bouncing away was hilarious
I forget how epic the dbz music was
For Goku to defeat Vegeta as a Super Saiyan in the Frieza Saga, he would need a Kaio-Ken multiplier sufficient to surpass Vegeta's estimated fighting power, which would be between 100,000,000 and 125,000,000. Based on Goku's base power (3,000,000), the calculation would be:
Determine the required Kaio-Ken:
To equal 100,000,000:
Goku would need a Kaio-Ken of approximately 34x.
To equal 125,000,000:
Goku would need a Kaio-Ken of approximately 42x.
Kaio-Ken viability over 20x:
In the Frieza Saga, Goku was already at his limit when using Kaio-Ken 20x. Multipliers of 34x to 42x would have been impossible for him at that time, as the physical strain would be so severe that his body would not be able to withstand it. Therefore, the Super Saiyan was essential - a transformation that provided a much greater increase in power without the same risks.
Conclusion: Even with a Kaio-Ken 34x or higher, it would be impossible for Goku to beat Vegeta in the Frieza Saga due to his body's limitations when using such high levels of Kaio-Ken. Super Saiyan was the true "next step" he needed.
Awesome video bro, please continue
Nice animation. Should make your own anime
This was pretty cool
This would be a good fight to see, not even gonna lie-
Amazing work 😮 congratulation, like 👍🏻
Bro..... part two for sure! This was done extremely well! I like this concept of "what if" which is essentially what this is, the DBZ version of Avengers "What If?" This one specifically if Vegeta reached Super Sayian first and Goku being able to multiple is power with the Kaioken making it competitive with Super Sayian. If Goku did a Kaioken 50x that should be the equivalent of Goku going Super Sayian according to Akira Toriyama saying SSJ was a 50 times multiplier of a Sayians base power. If my memory serves me correctly. That being said if he did do a what if scenario he needs to explain where is Frezia right now if Goku is not a Super Sayian he clearly hasn't defeated him yet, and looks like Vegeta became on due to being pissed off Frezia killing him but then being revived by the dragon balls on Earth then Dende still has his wish to make. So this could actually be fricken awesome but some things need answering before getting to deep into fighting and then let them go at him. You know if Goku manages a Kaioken 50x could be argued he killed Frezia that way being that it was equivalent to Super saiyan power then Vegeta came back and now has opportunity to get his revenge on Goku after just reaching Super Sayian since Frezia would be dead or extremely injured, Vegeta will want to test his new found power of the SSJ form against Goku. So like I said this could be done really really well depending how far the writer and artist wants to go. I bet if he did regular What If stories on UA-cam for Dragon Ball he would easily come up with consistent millions of views.
This what if was presented in the Budokai games
@@thatonebrokenbroddah5292 ohhh... this is from a video game? I thought this was fan made. I never did get into the video games, but I've read every manga, and watched every single DragonBall adaption.
@@camerongreco2146 yes this was explored in the old Budokai 3 and infinite world (a better versión of Budokai 3)
if a kiaoken is a multiplier of two normally, wouldnt he only need a kaioken times 25?
@@diamonds4days893 no normally kaioken is a multiplier in itself of 2 and if he did a kaioken x25 that would just be 25 times his base power. Assuming his body can handle it.
Amazing work
As if Goku had the strength of a SSJ2, but the energy along with the strength is quickly fading away.
Vegeta is the prince of all saiyans, but Goku has the fist of the king of the worlds.
I didn't know South Park made a DBZ parody.
❤🎉Amazing animation and drawing
The reason for Vegeta going Super Saiyan here is perfect. Killed by the guy who killed everyone he cared for and his home, his worst fear being realised with one certain absolute last chance at redemption and revenge.
Goku doing a one hand Kamehameha was a bit slack :P
The reason him fighting Goku could have just been right after Vegeta destroying Frieza.
Thumbnail got me good.
Cat fished for days
I’m not gonna lie I randomly stumbled across this. I thought this was a sparkling zero video but then I was like I’m intrigued yet confused😂
the color scheme was perfect
He didn't make it he stole it
more like SSJ Vegeta vs Ginyu-Goku but this was still really awesome!
Can’t wait to make this in sparking Zero
Imagine if Goku (and Vegeta, Gohan...) never reach Super Saiyan, like Frieza died from the spirit bomb and Krilin survived.
Goku would have keep training harder and harder to renforce his body and finally be able to use kaioken at a highter level !
Bro what audio is that reverberating noise called, when is zooms in on vegeta powering up, shits so krisp🗿🤌🏾 0:36 0:42
Unless Goku pulled a False Super Saiyan (Non-Canon) + Kaioken 10x, or force to goes above Kaioken 40x, I don't see him winning at this point since the kaioken is too risky to use
Or absorb the spirit bomb, but he might not have the time to do that
and accidentally goes Ultra Instinct Sign like in Xenoverse :)))
Goku wouldn’t survive that lol
Goku kaioken por 10 já seria mais que suficiente pra varrer o chão com vegeta ssj
20x its all he needs to match vegeta
I need to point out how on point Vegeta's voice Is ❤
FUCK YEAH THE FALCONER SCORE AUTOMATIC W
when people add a call to action at the end try to leave it as black screen or a thumbnail pic or something so your next video and subscribe options don't block half your work at the end. An extra 5 seconds of black screen added on the end will fix that
i never understood why Gokus body stopped being able to handle higher kaio kens. After his gravity training arc he was able to handle a 10x without a problem, but his zenkai boost which brought him to 3M from 90K had no effect on his kaio ken limits
cool animation
This what if is amazing
Vegeta bounced like a toy 💀
😂😂😂 facts
And yey felt no damage from goku
You can tell a Vegeta fan made this.
And why does Goku just *stop*?
He smacks Veg then just stands there for 40 seconds until just giving up.
That is very unGoku-like.
much more entertaining than super.need more
同意します。DBsuperあれは良くない。
The impact frames go crazy
I take it this is "what if Frieda died to the spirit bomb?" Then they used the dragon balls to wish everyone back killed by Frieza. This video starts
Yea, this is pretty accurate for a what if. I approve as a goku fan.
Can I Voice over this with friends of mine? I will absolutely link back to this video; this is fantastic animation
@@FlourishingVA Of course! I don't mind! ❤️🙏
Thank you so much!!
@@FlourishingVAcomment back when it’s up! Definitely wanna check that out
@@McJizzleBerries no problem
So im guessing in this timeline Goku beat Frieza without needing to turn Super Saiyan and Vegeta got resurrected got zenkai boost and SSJ first and wants to test Goku but also theres no one to oppose him
Mighty prince of rage I smell UA-cam nostalgic
Hyped to recreate this in sparking Zero
Nice the bringer of death brings back memories. Don't think it was finished though.
Goku: It’s too bad for you that I figured out how to use Kaioken times fifty… one! 😏
Amazing
I love the POWER you can feel when goku goes kaioken
Fcking nostalgic soundtrack
Bro this animation is brutal, makes Kaioken so much cooler
this had me bussing 😩😩
goddamn
this shit is actually hardasf
max power levels would be similar but problem is Goku can only sustain a Kaioken x20 for a minute or two tops and at major expense to his stamina and physical condition, whereas Vegeta could chill in Super Saiyan for quite a while. But you know...I always thought the Kaioken was so cool so I want to route for it. In order for Goku to win in this scenario he has to end the fight quickly.
Well, Vegeta was at 2 million, so Super Saiyan would be 100 Million, Goku with a Kaioken x20 was at 60 million, so hed likely need a x40 Kaioken
The speculation is very accurate, ssj vegeta would have be in 60m during the namek saga as frieza was literally toyed with base vegeta in his 4th form without powering up so 1.2 million in base after zenkai is about right.
Can somebody please tell me how do you add your product to UA-cam.
Kaioken Overdrive, this is the best name i could give this
Wow the voice acting by Leo Jerez is flawless. Could replace Sabat with ease when he retires.
They should have burst their vocal chords by now
Vegeta and Goku in these forms are close but Goku's is much quicker, stronger but the
energy to be controlled would be too much too handle as opposed to Vegetas
SSJ controlled form.
Goku would win but at the expense of him dying.
Its just too much energy Goku is burning in a short time span.
Oh you’re finally giving credit to the original animator
WOW! NICE!
SOMEONES a vegeta fan ( i am too)
Reminds me of the beginning of the "Bringer of the death" fanfic
Thumbnail is a bit misleading. But cool nonetheless.
Vegeta’s pl was 2,500,000 on Namek. Putting him at 125,000,000 as a SS
60 Mil
Essa animação ficou incrível. Já quero mais
We need a part two
It looks like Vegeta went Super saiyan when he was crying and killed Frieza. He also decided to kill Gohan Krillin and Piccolo, so then when Goku appeared he got mad and decided to teach Vegeta a lesson. In the end Vegeta was about to win until Goku goes super saiyan to teach him a lesson.
Even if vegeta managed to turn ssj before goku, he would still lose to a FP Frieza
Ngl Kaioken looks better than ssj design wise in this
Super Saiyan multiplier is 50x
Goku Kaio-Ken limit is about 20x
this kioken looks infinitely better then that fruity red or blue
Vegeta got thrown like a lego brick
Goku got gut punched like Garcia when he fought Davis
So if Vegeta is at 2,000,000 x50 = 100,000,000, and Goku’s at 3,000,000, then this has to be either Kaioken times 40 or 50 which would put him at 120,000,000 - 150,000,000 bc it looks like he’s stronger than Vegeta but consumes more stamina
At that point of time goku could still just use kaioken x10 instead and win because apparently vegetas power lvl was 500,000 in his base while goku’s base was around 3 million so Sjj would boost vegeta to 25 million but kaioken times 10 goku would be 30 million
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Good
Kaioken x50 Goku???
Gokus base power was bigger than vegetas so he didnt need to go that far to match up to vegetas 50x Multiplier
@@mihib7287 truth
At this point Goku body can't handle above a 20x boost
Como eu disse antes com kaioken por 1 seria mais que suficiente pra destruí vegeta
increible
Can u do ssj vegeta killing freiza?