BMW S1000RR vs. Kawasaki ZX-10R Track Ride
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- With its all-new design and standard traction control, Kawasaki's new ZX-10R has created a lot of buzz, so we decided to pit it against the reigning literbike champ, the BMW S1000RR, in a mano-a-mano sportbike matchup for outright honors on the racetrack.
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I have owned both of these motorcycles.
First I bought the Kawasaki....Sooooo many problems, Still getting recall notices.
Sold it.
Then bought the BMW....The BMW is a much better bike.
I wanted to believe in the Kawasaki but it was just a pain for problems.
To say they are similar bikes would suggest to me you have not owned both of these motorcycles!
I've also owned both. 2 kawi's for price of one s1000rr haha only issue I've had was with the CCT which was replaced with a manual. The extra money was a lot of trackdays and tires =D
The finger got detached during a wicked racing highside. It compromised my guitar playing, but it cut down my fingernail clipping time by 10%!
Fantastic video/excellent narration. Love both bikes. Awesome. Thanks for posting the valuable information.
My dad and his bud had these bikes and traded for about 3 weeks. They both agree that the ZX10 had better handling and is easier to get along with but the BMW is focused and better at feeling and being a liter bike overall. Both REALLY excellent though.
Surly the ZX-10 is the winner if it performs identically for 2/3 of the price?
Here in germany the new 2015 s1000rr is only 500€ more than the 2015 zx10r. The 2014 s1000rr was even cheaper than the kawa. I dont know how the prices in the US are but in Germany theres just a slight difference.
Skare147 its probably cheaper in germany because they dont have to pay that much for exporting and importing fees and taxes aswell as insurance.
im fortunate to have the 2013 zx10r euro version and i get 200hp at the crank and its a lot cheeper than the bmw
BMW sold more s1000rr since 2009 than most of the other big names together!!
HYPE?? Pfff! So many people can't be wrong!! This bike is THE sledgehammer!!
Great review, one of the better I've seem from you guys. Those are two fantastic bikes, I don't think I could choose between them either. One question though, how did the guy in blue loose his finger? I'd assume a motorcycle accident.
its the other way around mate... it was the 1st streetlegal 1L bike with that many electronic things ( tractionC, quickshifter etc...)
Nice to know a bit about the feeling of both bikes , but it would be great to see some numbers like lap times . Regards, and i envy you guys !! great job !
i am not watching the while video can someone plz tell me which one is more expensive?
I have to agree with them. I've ridden both, hard!... and they are both very impressive! My brother has the new zx10r and get to ride it all the time...I can tell you, ironically the zx10r is a little bit more refined, and stable thru the turns but the bmw has a tad bit more midrange power edge. However, both are capable of GODS amount of power if you upgrade...or if you have the ca$h!!!
If this is a Track Ride then I'am an astronaut!
The words are cheap .We running the s1000RR on the streets also at the track days.
Don't cry kids maybe someday you gonna have the option to drive a better bike cause the japanese are in the classroom.......until then a s1000RR will be always in front of your eyes.
At last when the time gonna come to sell your bike , don't cry if you gonna sell it for half the money that you paid.
Sound and emissions require more restrictive exhaust system in the US. Europe has different regulations so the system is less restrictive giving more HP than the US version.
Also the ECU is set different so the bike makes less, simple Exhaust upgrade and ECU flash makes the difference, which is what most riders do anyhow. CA models are even more restricted because they have a charcoal canister in the pipe as well. Just ditch it and you get the ponies back.
Adam Waheed(of motorcycle usa) was give a YZF-R1 from Yamaha shortly after giving it a good review. Maybe Kawasaki is doing the same thing.
I don't think the guy with the cap on could be talking more aggressive/offensive xD He's just so scary :P
Great ol video ,, thanx ,, thinking zx10 for sure ,,, why so many dislikes .. odd
@gettoclio Do you think they where on diff type dynos?
Is it just me or did these guys seem completely unenthusiastic about this review. Also i hate reviews where they don't declare a winner.
As to power, purely power, BMW remains still the number one. It got 189 HP against 178 HP from ZX 10R (Power on the rear wheel) according to Motociclismo Magazine (2011 Master Bike, Brazil's May edition)...
Stick to MCN review or Motorcycle USA for descriptions of these motorcycles. I don't think they give an in depth review to give a proper description here
Stop your bickering. The first inline four in a bike was a Larurin & Klement, built in 1904. So they all copied the Austrians. Thank you for your attention, goodbye.
Both bikes are great. Only reason i'm getting a BMW is the price for me is much better and the BMW have nothing but good news, No recalls!
I totally agree, I was looking at the Red White and Blue Race colors $21,500 with the pipe, windscreen and Tail cowl and tax out the door. 2012 ZX10 $16,000 with extended warranty maintenance package tax prep doc out the door. $5,500 dollar diff and if I take off the extra warranty and maintenance package which the BMW did not have that jumps to an $8,000 dollar difference. Now the Double RR is a nice bike but $8K worth? I'll save the green and get some carbon wheels and upgrades! sorry BMW!
What's the seat height for the bmw?
In Europe the zx10r comes with 207hp..
Wht does it only come out with 188 in USA?
BMW wants the front to look asymmetrical. That's a technical styling nod to their design teams over the years which produced bikes that ran smoother and more reliably but had to be slightly asymmetrical by design. It's a conscious decision by BMW. I don't love it or dislike it. I accept it as their individual styling choice and it gives them brand distinction. Japanese bikes are very well made (like their cars) but as everyone knows they're dull and generic looking too (just like their cars)
@gettoclio It's probably an American market version to meet their noise emissions.
my dad has a zx10 2004 and a R1
BMW has the same model in the USA and Europe, every one else has different models for both markets as different noise rules apply. Figure that out? The BMW does not have a RAM air intake system, so the Kawasaki has the most efficent RAM system every devloped, a 163hp Kawasaki has the same dynamic performance as a 174hp BMW and it won't breakdown. Seen too many horror stories of BMW;s with major engine problem failures. The ECU on the BMW can be upgraded with and optional HP Power Boost Kit
I think I'm gonna see a breathtaking comparison race, or some great overtaking in HD, but what I've got is just two people talking. Totally disappointed, since the internet connection is very low in my place, buffering video is really "precious", and I'm not expecting something like this... *sigh*
I dont really agree with this review lol. Reason being is because i've got the august issue of these bikes. The bike of the year was that rsv4. Which I thought was bs but it was number one. The zx10 came in second and this bmw came in third. Based on what i read, the ninja power was better. They didnt really have any negative thing to say about it either. The bike pushed out way more hp than what they talking about in this vid. On the street, the 10 killed the bmw. bmw system was a bit better
bmw headlamps look like an angry grasshoppers
175 rwhp for the BMW, what is wrong with that bike, mine made 186rwhp on a dyno...
@GeneralRushHour yeah looks like someone cut off the kawi's tail
Kawasaki wins because it is SO much cheaper and performs if not exactly the same, better on track with less intrusive electronics. 100 flash to bring it to euro spec
man the BMW front is such an eye sore. what were they thinking? if it's a person, it's a cross-eyed person. looks like an uncomplete design or they weren't sure what they want so they mix and match.
so you have the right air-fuel mix and more power increas
Imagine that he never felt like he needed to highside himself off the zx10 listen at 1:35. ROFL
It was a rhetorical question. S1000rr have enough power.
@nalgene82everyday do u wan it to looks like a poor cat ( two round headlights) or jus like a zx10 aite? ;p
@boboyshiairi
I admit the "review" wasn't very good, but why the hell do you want a race? You think the difference in these bikes is so great that a "race" wouldn't just come down to rider skill? There's not a guy in this video that can ride either bike at 100% of its capability.
I know... and fixing it makes a BIG difference.
i wish i had the money for one of those or both of them
S1000rr all the way..
maybe the bmw is better than zx10r,but it still defends on how the rider manage the speed..like what ROSSI said,its not the bike,its the rider :)
Akrap. full system - ok, but a power comander? What for?
Better review.
Go Team Green, and Save some Green
Where is the race...??! Stop talking....
I waiting for the race...
Oh... please... save me people....
Such plain talking ..great. But here s the thing, great engineering means reliability too. And that's where kawasaki excel s the German bike..
@motorbikeperson OK!
I know you want a Boss Hoss.
i love kawa, why to pay so much more for not really a better bike. i love the zx 10 r, they say is a 600 on the handling but on steroids, 1000.
soooo restricted jap stock vs unrestricted euro stock?... sounds legit.
Well if they can't decid a Winner, at least do a lap on both and give us the times :-/
Too bad the BMW looks like someone punched it in the eye and cant decide if it wants fins or not on its fairings. Let the japanese stick to fairings and the europeans stick to naked bikes.
Team Green ! Team Rasta !!
@yhou24
That must explain why Rossi can't win a race on a Duke and Stoner can! LOL
fuck ducati too much money for nothing......if you want a bike to make you fill good and not thinking about the maintenance cost then BMW is the way...... put an akrapovic full system a power comander and there you go ;)
@bfmv580 inbreeding... his hand has been like that since birth
Rod Stewart @3:23
wow that sucks just a few scrathes and its salvaged thats terrible
but the bmw s1000 has ram air
not hard to fix >.>
The Kawasaki can easily beat in a track this Nazibike
Put the price difference between the two bikes in the ninja then do a retest.
Bmw😍
bmw looks like alien...
yay
aaaaaand uhhhhhhhh emmm... uhhhh...ehhhh... aahhh!!!!
2005
European version of Kawasaki ZX10R is way better than BMW
Hen zo no it isn’t.
Vain, but I'd totally take the Kawasaki purely for the non-hideous headlights. I wish BMW would make the headlights modular so people could choose themselves if they want their bike to look like Sloth from the Goonies or not.