Inside Apple's M3 MacBook Pro: Teardown, X-Rays, and Parts Pairing Drama!

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  • Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
  • Apple’s new M3 powered 14” MacBook Pro has pulled the plug on its younger sibling, the 13” MacBook Pro. That’s right, Apple’s killing off their line of not-so-pro MacBook Pros. This act of fratricide would be horrific if it wasn't for the collective sigh of relief when we heard the rest of the news: the unpopular and unrepairable Touch Bar is also gone.
    But that’s not the end of the story. While the M3 line brings some performance upgrades, the M3 Pro and M3 Max versions also introduced a new colour: Space Black. Yeah I know, it’s more grey than black but there’s a really fascinating reason for that.
    Anodization blog post link: www.ifixit.com/News/86128/how...
    Chip ID blog post link: www.ifixit.com/Guide/MacBook+...
    M1 & M2 MacBook Pro screen repair blog post link: www.ifixit.com/News/73288/m2-...
    Chapters
    00:00 The M3 Series MacBook Pro’s Have Arrived
    00:26 A New Anodization Process and a New Color: Space Black
    01:00 Space Gray Under the Microscope
    01:37 MacBook Pro M3 Pro X-Ray
    02:02 MacBook Pro M3 X-Ray
    02:20 Opening the MacBook Pro M3 Pro the Apple Way
    02:40 MacBook Pro M3 Pro Internals vs MacBook Pro M3 Internals
    02:50 Disconnecting the Battery on the MacBook Pro M3 Pro
    03:14 Stretch Release Pull Tabs and Removing the MacBook Pro M3 Pro Battery
    03:25 Removing the M3 Pro Logic Board
    03:58 Examining the M3 Pro’s Modular Ports
    04:19 A Closer Look at the Base Model M3 Logic Board
    04:41 The Problem with Soldered RAM
    06:00 Repairability Assessment of the M3 MacBook Pro Line & Parts Pairing
    07:16 Final Thoughts and Scoring the M3 MacBook Pro’s
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  • @DigitalN
    @DigitalN 6 місяців тому +240

    The prices Apple charges to upgrade RAM and SSD space is insane when you consider what it costs for a PCIe gen 5 M.2 and high quality DDR5. The markup they have is outrageous

    • @Ebalosus
      @Ebalosus 6 місяців тому +20

      TBF they’ve been doing that since Steve Jobs came back to the company way back when. The overwhelming advice before they started soldering everything down was "buy the base model and upgrade the RAM and storage as you need it by yourself."

    • @Raja995mh33
      @Raja995mh33 6 місяців тому +11

      The storage price upgrades are sadly quite an industry standard tho... most others aren't really that much cheaper when you wanna upgrade frm 512GB to 1-2TB. And when it comes to the 4 and 8TB models, Apple can basically dictate any price they want because there's no other manufacturer giving you such huge storage options.
      But the RAM upgrades yeah, they're ridiculous. Especially from 8 to 16GB. $200 for a fu... 8GB more.

    • @Jaspal1993
      @Jaspal1993 6 місяців тому

      @@Raja995mh33 Indeed, just look at the Microsoft Surface Laptop and Samsung Galaxy book upgrade costs. £200 just for 8GB to 16GB RAM, or 256GB to 512GB SSD. It's not just Apple.

    • @nnnnnn3647
      @nnnnnn3647 6 місяців тому +3

      Shop ASUS computers. What is your problem?

    • @bolttracks
      @bolttracks 6 місяців тому

      @@Raja995mh33a huge portion of laptops have user upgradeable RAM and SSDs, so do pretty much all windows desktops

  • @TheWuffball
    @TheWuffball 6 місяців тому +286

    Such impressive yet infuriating engineering.

    • @SlartiMarvinbartfast
      @SlartiMarvinbartfast 6 місяців тому

      Apple are such a scummy company - their greed means that they want full and absolute control so that they can leverage as much money from the consumer as is humanly possible. Sadly the Apple Cult still buys their over-priced, non-environmentally friendly products, so they share the blame for Apple's predatory practices. All it would take is for most Apple buyers to refuse to buy Apple's products until they mended their ways, but we all know that's highly unlikely to happen.

    • @AnonymousOG
      @AnonymousOG 6 місяців тому +9

      So don't buy it

    • @AndrewPL5
      @AndrewPL5 6 місяців тому +19

      @@AnonymousOG he never said he was. And you can enjoy or hate the product and still be critical. I love apple products, but also understand the frustrations that come with it.

    • @FR4M3Sharma
      @FR4M3Sharma 6 місяців тому +4

      There's nothing impressive here, they're selling you a mobile phone so that's scaled to a PC level. Mobile phones have been doing the unified memory thing for years. We'll see how much ahead apple is when Intel and AMD come up with ARM processors.

    • @DavideDavini
      @DavideDavini 6 місяців тому +1

      That’s my whole problem with Apple condensed in a single sentence. 😂
      Cheers mate.

  • @joshbakeroriginal
    @joshbakeroriginal 6 місяців тому +87

    "Premium Disposable Product Manufacturer" fits Apple perfectly.

    • @djross95
      @djross95 6 місяців тому +10

      That, and "Overpriced Fashion Accessories", lol

  • @Pumpkinwaffle
    @Pumpkinwaffle 6 місяців тому +107

    4/10 is incredibly generous considering all the drawbacks and hinderance to repair. At this point the connectors are only here for the assembly process....

    • @nnnnnn3647
      @nnnnnn3647 6 місяців тому +3

      This is not an hinderance to repair. This is an hinderance for thieves and fraudsters.

    • @ej_tech
      @ej_tech 6 місяців тому

      @@nnnnnn3647 Parts should only become useless when the device is flagged lost or stolen.

    • @vbhvsgr
      @vbhvsgr 6 місяців тому

      @@nnnnnn3647 how is making it impossible to replace a broken screen yourself hindering any thieves or fraudsters?

    • @cornpowder4425
      @cornpowder4425 6 місяців тому +18

      very generous indeed when you can't change out storage or memory... the whole thing becomes e-waste when either of those parts lose performance

    • @nnnnnn3647
      @nnnnnn3647 6 місяців тому

      @@cornpowder4425 It's not true. You can buy a motherboard from Apple, which is not expensive.

  • @Sebastian198910
    @Sebastian198910 6 місяців тому +235

    Time for the EU to force hardware to not be locked down now after they did it with USB-C.

    • @Ebalosus
      @Ebalosus 6 місяців тому +35

      That, and mandate that storage be replaceable alongside batteries. Serviceable RAM would be nice too, but while I grumble about it being soldered, I can live with it in a world where storage is replaceable, since the latter has a limited write-life.

    • @FeelsDonkMan
      @FeelsDonkMan 6 місяців тому

      apple will claim its for security, because with these paired parts stealing macbooks and iphones for their parts will not be as big anymore.

    • @ronlevin2339
      @ronlevin2339 6 місяців тому +9

      @@Ebalosus it can be done like in some PC laptops, base RAM is soldered, but rest can be added as needed

    • @GamingLiveHDChannelPH
      @GamingLiveHDChannelPH 6 місяців тому +2

      @@Ebalosus Don't forget Accessibility those Companies Gluing their products hindering you from repair

    • @user-ws7kp1yh9l
      @user-ws7kp1yh9l 6 місяців тому

      @@apl2215They do have leverage

  • @cinlung
    @cinlung 6 місяців тому +43

    4 out of 10 is generous for unfixable laptops that are designed to break and ewaste

  • @taylor1038
    @taylor1038 6 місяців тому +27

    I just bought 32GB of DDR5 5600MT/s SODIMM for my laptop for less than $100. It boggles my mind that the upgrade ontop of the already included 8GB costs $200 alone. $200 FOR 8GB OF RAM?!?! IS THIS 2007??

    • @huuhoangmanh685
      @huuhoangmanh685 6 місяців тому +2

      it's apple's proprietary ideology of money earning ✨ both RAM and SSD are sensitive parts if they go wrong, especially SSD which has its limited lifespan because of having to both read and write for many and many times, but being soldered so if SSD fails does the whole laptop also get affected, because apple solders everything into mainboard of macs. you can say same thing about RAM too despite having longer lifespan than SSD as it works differently, and that's why mac sales from skyrocketing thanks to first M chip to downfall nowadays because of this along with apple's counterrepair tactics

    • @TheSpotify95
      @TheSpotify95 6 місяців тому +1

      I bought 32GB DDR4-2400 for a friend's laptop on the used market for £40. Yes, £40. And I could have got 32GB DDR4-2666 today for £40 also.
      Even when I bought it a couple of years ago for my HP OMEN (with higher RAM prices), I could still get 32GB DDR4-2666 for under £100.

    • @taylor1038
      @taylor1038 6 місяців тому +1

      @@TheSpotify95 It seems like Apple doesn't understand that traditionally capacity goes up and prices come down over time. Or at least they use that to make their margins even larger as time goes on lol

    • @eckard9597
      @eckard9597 3 місяці тому

      The company makes more money when you have to upgrade half way through a system's life span. I already know I'm going to have to upgrade for more storage and more RAM this year, and I got my M3 Pro last month. Thankfully it's a work provided computer so I'm at least not shelling out an extra $2700-3500 of my own money, I'll just be biting the bullet for the first time.

  • @onirem4973
    @onirem4973 6 місяців тому +25

    Integraded flash storage and ram is a headache...
    It's a 3000 dollar device, this should not be acceptable...

    • @PvtAnonymous
      @PvtAnonymous 6 місяців тому +3

      there's A LOT of $3000 devices with soldered RAM. Storage is a different story though.

    • @sammyjammy6647
      @sammyjammy6647 6 місяців тому +4

      That’s why you guys have options you can explore the PC market for your upgradable laptops. personally, I like to stick with quality and reliability so I’m with Apple

  • @cameronbosch1213
    @cameronbosch1213 6 місяців тому +44

    This device at most should get a 2 / 10, not a 3 / 10 because of all of the software locks. And soldering on SSDs should cap any product bigger than a smartphone to no more than a 2 / 10.

  • @Bacender
    @Bacender 6 місяців тому

    You didn't link to your anodisation process in the description.

  • @paulbade3566
    @paulbade3566 6 місяців тому +3

    Apple used to know how to make easily repairable computers back in the 1990s. That saved their bacon when they had several models with runs of defective parts and ended up doing a lot of recall repairs. It is possible to swap a logic board on a Power Mac 6200/6300 in less than five minutes, using only a #2 Phillips screwdriver. The Powerbook 190 and Powerbook 5300 generally did not take more than 40 minutes to change any part, not counting time to load up a new hard drive. Some of the LC models did not even need tools for most repairs - everything was done with latches.
    It would interesting to see the results if Apple returns to that east to servicedesign philosophy.

  • @TheLikeys
    @TheLikeys 4 місяці тому +2

    I mean in the past Apple soldered on the ram before but at least back then the SSDs were replaceable. It’s so frustrating to know that these incredible machines are so difficult/impossible to repair.. at least display, battery, SSD and the ports should be designed to be replaceable - without software hurdles..

  • @JerziTBoss
    @JerziTBoss 6 місяців тому +8

    Simple answer is don't buy these. These are e-waste in the making. Once SSD dies you are screwed. If anything on the motherboard dies you can only hope somebody is able to fix it or your data are gone.
    8GB of RAM on PRO machine is a joke. I disagree that Apple designed themselves into a corner. They designed that on purpose so they can sell more of expensive machines and cloud subscriptions.

  • @dentjoener
    @dentjoener 6 місяців тому +2

    Those subtitles were way more spicy than the actual spoken words :). Wish you used those more.

  • @TheSpotify95
    @TheSpotify95 6 місяців тому +33

    I think this is one of the first times an Ifixit engineer has BLEEPED at a teardown product! Also, great explanation on why 8GB RAM is not good enough for a "professional laptop". The base model should have been 16GB, and upgrading the RAM costs way way more than on any Windows machine because you can't upgrade soldered components.
    I managed to buy a 128GB DDR4-3200 kit for my gaming PC for £240. How much would it cost to get 128GB on a Macbook Pro? Is 128GB even an option on a Macbook Pro?!

    • @Ryan-vv1oq
      @Ryan-vv1oq 6 місяців тому +6

      the 16" macbook Pro caps at 128gb ram, but you have to buy the M3 max and add $1K.

    • @uberfu
      @uberfu 6 місяців тому +3

      16GB minimum was the base standard 10_ years ago. There isn't really much explanation needed in profe3ssional industries to avoid something with standard 8GBs in 2023. If you're buying for a company and you're that naive you simply ned to let someone else spec equipment out for you.

  • @BigGroupHug
    @BigGroupHug 6 місяців тому +26

    The SSD is soldered to the board?
    Doesn't that make data recovery insane?

    • @PvtAnonymous
      @PvtAnonymous 6 місяців тому +6

      that's why people should have backups. Data recovery from SSDs is always insane...

    • @JerziTBoss
      @JerziTBoss 6 місяців тому +27

      @@PvtAnonymous But if the SSD is removable then even in case of heavy damage to the laptop as long as the SSD survives you only need 5$ m.2 to usb adapter and you can get data out of it.
      Yes people should have backup of the most important data but that's no excuse for apple to solder ssd to the board.

    • @SniperNator305
      @SniperNator305 6 місяців тому

      ​@@JerziTBossFacts Boss

    • @PvtAnonymous
      @PvtAnonymous 6 місяців тому

      @@JerziTBoss yeah that is of course the easier and better way. But since we've moved to soldered NAND/UFS storage on mobile devices, where you can never recover the data without saving the whole device, my stance still stands. No backup and I'll not shed a tear if a customer loses their data. From my experience, around 85% of customers walking into our store don't have backups of any sorts, some 5% have at least a few photos saved on iCloud or Google drive, but their storage is full and the other 10% properly back up everything. With hard drives (and even SSDs) being so cheap in 2023, you really don't need data recovery. And many applications nowadays support working from files in the cloud, which is even better. People need this hammered into their heads forever. And from my 3+ years of working with customers, I can tell you that those who pay big money for data recovery start backing up religiously. Only through painful lessons...

    • @Ebalosus
      @Ebalosus 6 місяців тому +8

      Oh it’s even worse than that, because the SSD controller isn’t even with the NAND chips. It’s a part of the SoC, so you basically need board-level microsoldering to do data recovery.

  • @jamesvalenti9288
    @jamesvalenti9288 2 місяці тому

    Is there talk about future models being more serviceable? I am in the market for a new MacBook (its a 2012), and I am debating whether I should buy one now, or wait for the next model.

  • @raul0ca
    @raul0ca 6 місяців тому +3

    Waiting for when the battery is sealed at factory to reduce weight from charging circuitry

  • @jseden
    @jseden 2 місяці тому

    Well, at least the battery is reasonably easy to swap and since I keep my machine clean and generally don't run it too hot, I don't see any component failures in my near future so this video it fairly re-assuring. I've had the base m3pro Pro for about 10 weeks now, use it daily, typically running for 10+ hours and haven't had a single issue with it yet. Overall a major upgrade from the 8/512gb m2 air I owed and used the same for 6 months prior.

  • @TechOut
    @TechOut 6 місяців тому +1

    Battery pull tabs? Does this mean the battery will be replaceable without having to replace the whole bottom case?

  • @MadelnMachines
    @MadelnMachines 4 місяці тому

    How thin and easily scratched or marked is the space black anodization?

  • @caseyleedom6771
    @caseyleedom6771 6 місяців тому +9

    One thing you need to understand about the MacOS Memory Manager: it's super aggressive about keeping things in Memory. Other Ones might start evicting Memory Pages at a much lower Memory Occupancy percentage. So if you've ended up accessing a lot of Shared Library Pages, they'll continue to fill up Memory till the OS really needs to free up Pages for new Content. And of course, if the freed Memory Pages are read-only Shared Library Pages, that means a simple reuse rather than having to write Modified Read-Write Pages out to Swap. So, the bottom line is that seeing 7GB of Memory being in use very quickly isn't really a problem. What you really want to look at is the amount of Swap that's being used.

    • @karmatraining
      @karmatraining 6 місяців тому +3

      Exactly. This video is misleading. 8GB is too little, but the numbers he was reporting would only matter if he were using multiple massive programs like After Effects or XCode or something

  • @Arquidron
    @Arquidron 3 місяці тому

    hello, a few days ago, I was processing some data and it was the first time I heard the noise of the MacBook fans, so my question is the following.
    I noticed that the left fan ventilate less than the right one, is it normal? I noticed it by the noise they emitted.

  • @iamseanb17
    @iamseanb17 6 місяців тому +21

    Judging by the side side comparison, one thing I noticed is that the speaker assembly on the m3 pro looks ever slightly beefiier/ bigger. Is that really the case or does it really translate to real world use

    • @arturo7250
      @arturo7250 6 місяців тому

      Seems the same to me. Might just be the angle.

  • @ObscureFilmProds
    @ObscureFilmProds 6 місяців тому +3

    Please teardown a new iMac M3 next.

  • @gerardrosales
    @gerardrosales 6 місяців тому +4

    somebody needs to rework these subtitles

  • @KuroiPK
    @KuroiPK 6 місяців тому +11

    I wonder how those macs would perform if they would have a fallback dim style RAM too? Could imagine that would be the best of both worlds…

    • @TheWuffball
      @TheWuffball 6 місяців тому

      Seems like that would be a better Swap Memory than the SSD

    • @vincelongman3264
      @vincelongman3264 6 місяців тому +5

      The performance gain from on package RAM is negligible, there would be no difference in performance, only difference would be extra PCB space. However, it would hurt Apple's financial performance as they wouldn't be able to force people to pay +$200 for only +8GB RAM

    • @montex66
      @montex66 6 місяців тому

      Nobody is "forced to pay" for anything from Apple. You either buy their products or you don't - you really don't have to pay if you don't want to.@@vincelongman3264

    • @karmatraining
      @karmatraining 6 місяців тому

      You mean like a Dell laptop? God have mercy

  • @many_worlds
    @many_worlds 6 місяців тому +6

    8 gig ram? what a joke

  • @triptheroad
    @triptheroad 16 днів тому

    I really want to switch to a Macbook Pro given the current uncertain state of Windows 10 and 11, but the lack of repairability and upgradeability is so frustrating. I need more than 1 TB internal storage. I wish they would at least put a storage upgrade bay or recessed SD card slot in the computer so I can add more memory for video editing. Hopefully replacement batteries will be available and easy to swap as I can't even get quality batteries for my 7 year old Asus laptop anymore.

  • @colorless_man7325
    @colorless_man7325 6 місяців тому +4

    4 is way more generous, make it 1 or 1.5

  • @slizgi86
    @slizgi86 6 місяців тому

    I don't know I've seen aluminum that was anodized black, and it was black, so I would don't agree that it is harder to make more vibrant darker colors. Combine that with fingerprint resistance, tho is different story...

  • @onlinetech3.048
    @onlinetech3.048 3 місяці тому

    Excellent engineering works

  • @commie.franky
    @commie.franky 6 місяців тому +25

    The European Union should force Apple to have not only replaceable parts, but the bare minimum of replaceable SSD's and expandable memory as well as an easily replaceable battery.

    • @uberfu
      @uberfu 6 місяців тому

      Replaceable > Battery > RAM > SSD > Processor > Graphics

    • @johnmoore1495
      @johnmoore1495 4 місяці тому +2

      The RAM part will probably never happen given Apple will say the RAM being on their SoC is vital, whether that’s even remotely true or not is debatable. The storage though, yeah there’s no reason for it to be soldered and non-replaceable.

  • @user-dr2cw3hh1t
    @user-dr2cw3hh1t 6 місяців тому +5

    The one downside of the transition to Apple Silicon is that it pretty much eviscerated the Hackintosh market.
    I would put MacOS on a Framework tomorrow if Intel wasnt on its way to being phased out.

    • @MindBlowerWTF
      @MindBlowerWTF 4 місяці тому

      Current version of MacOS has x86/amd64 build I think (but this is also the last MacOS that will have this).
      I'm more interested in effort of using Macs with Apple silicon with Linux.

  • @ronlevin2339
    @ronlevin2339 6 місяців тому

    for screen 2 chips have to be transferred from old to a new screen

  • @0raibi
    @0raibi 2 місяці тому

    I've seen people upgrading ram and SSD for the m1 and m2 macbook by replacing the chip inside. Isn't this possible now with the m3?

  • @Pikminiman
    @Pikminiman 6 місяців тому +18

    Seriously? 4/10 repairability on a machine whose parts you can't repair without Apple's permission? Come on, iFixit, you're better than this. That score is at least quadruple what Apple deserves.

    • @robypsx
      @robypsx 5 місяців тому +4

      I would have give 1/10, a 5 minutes replacement can turn into a 3 month reverse engineering challenge with these machines

  • @ff1077
    @ff1077 6 місяців тому +2

    Should give the Nothing Phone 2 a chance. At least for them, they are willing to be open and listen and respond compared to most other phine companies.

  • @mikayule
    @mikayule 2 місяці тому

    The reason why lid angle sensor is paired with the logic board is probably has something to do with Apple's Platform Security (which can be checked out from the official support website). Specifically, Apple uses the lid angle sensor to determine if the lid is closed, so that MacBook can block the internal microphone at a hardware level to prevent malware from recording secretly. Through force pairing, even if the hacker have the access to the hardware of a MacBook, they also can't steal audio by replacing the lid sensor to a modified one that always pretend as the lid is on.

  • @theyaghu
    @theyaghu 6 місяців тому

    Can you explain what a unibody MacBook is

  • @pablo.station
    @pablo.station 6 місяців тому +4

    As soon as ARM for windows has developer support, I'm moving back to windows. Assuming they don't pull the same anti-repair BS.

    • @mxlm777
      @mxlm777 6 місяців тому +1

      Windows is a SW company, not hardware. So it will always be repairable. ARM is a processor company, not a desktop manufacturer. On the other hand, Apple produces "everything" (eco system: SW and HW) so they can monopolize as their wish....

  • @Neanderthal_yardy
    @Neanderthal_yardy 6 місяців тому +3

    How far is it from becoming a modular computer as MacBook sales slow down?

  • @TheSpotify95
    @TheSpotify95 6 місяців тому +8

    4/10 seems quite high for a laptop with soldered down RAM and storage, as well as parts paired components.
    I guess the only thing keeping it from being lower is the removable battery, minor components being modular, and the eventual release of manuals and spare parts.
    I'd personally only give it a 2/10...

  • @paulbade3566
    @paulbade3566 6 місяців тому +11

    Apple could do parts pairing in a friendlier way. For example, when a customer registers a new product, the customer can be given the unlock code for pairing replacement components. If the computer is stolen for chop shop use, the parts are still useless because the shop will not have the pairing code. But if the customer has the code, he can then update the pairing in his system's firmware. Incidentally, the pairing software can check Apple's parts database for serial numbers reported stolen, so the theft protection remains. This also retains Apple's protection from warranty fraud since the warranty terms can specify that only properly registered parts are covered. The pairing program should permit some limited time of normal operation to give the repair tech an opportunity to register the new pairing.
    The hassle of self-registering is unavoidable, but with some thoughtfulness, it can be made minimal compared to the current over-priced process.

    • @karmatraining
      @karmatraining 6 місяців тому +3

      Wouldn't work as many machines are bought by companies who are notoriously bad at keeping records like this

    • @danieltabrizian
      @danieltabrizian 6 місяців тому

      Wouldn't work as it would cut into apple's profit too much. The scams like these allows apple to have physical stores.

    • @paulbade3566
      @paulbade3566 6 місяців тому

      @@karmatraining If they lose the record, they have to go to Apple to get the code, which is the present situation. Providing the code at the beginning is an incentive for registering the warranty, which producers like Apple find desirable. An alternative method would be an automatic check after repair to verify no parts came from a reported stolen unit. If the check fails, the unit calls the police (indirectly via Internet, or through the phone if it has calling ability, then refuses to do anything else. If the check passes, the new pairing is registered and everything works normally.

    • @uberfu
      @uberfu 6 місяців тому

      @paulbade3556 - your whole comment is poiuntless !! Apple used to allow for off the shelf replacement parts and NOT bake in software locking to swap parts out. They simply need to stop writing reswtrictive source code into their firmware (see the part fo the video where they tried to swap displays); Even if Apple still opts for custom not-off-the-shelf-parts, those parts still need to be swappable by anyone that knows how to; and allow for 3rd party shops + manufacturers to provide non-Apple specific parts. Either that or stop charging the replacement cost of a product in order to simply repair it at an Apple Store.

  • @unboxhubs
    @unboxhubs 5 місяців тому +1

    I have the 16GB Version M1 Macbook pro and I must say it fills up relatively quick after having a bunch of tabs open and MS word and some other apps when I am multi-tasking. its probably fine for just non muti tasker users only trying to web browser or light use but in 2023 you need more than 16GB.

    • @hugo112max
      @hugo112max 5 місяців тому

      That’s just how MacOS works, it fills the ram even if you only have one tab open.

  • @scottstewart6162
    @scottstewart6162 6 місяців тому

    @Loiusrossmann already has equipment to calibrate the screen angle sensor. Made a video on it proving that it works as well.

  • @davidc_ac9377
    @davidc_ac9377 6 місяців тому

    So M1 16" replaced screens dont have artifacts?

  • @nathanhart5411
    @nathanhart5411 5 місяців тому

    What on earth? How come the Space Black looks like that on your video? It surely looks a lot darker and more blacker in real life, to me at least.

  • @user-bp8yg3ko1r
    @user-bp8yg3ko1r 6 місяців тому +4

    If you're not reliant on macOS, choosing a Framework Laptop over this piece of manufactured e-waste is obviously the better decision.

  • @PointShotDR
    @PointShotDR 6 місяців тому +9

    I've said it before and I'll say it again. Pairing pieces should automatically guarantee a zero score.
    There are points that are an ethical issue against the right to repair, anyone who crosses this line does not deserve a score higher than zero.
    Please treat these companies the same way they treat their consumers.

  • @peterxiong3367
    @peterxiong3367 6 місяців тому

    I thought the space grey laptop was a silver one at first glance

  • @joaopedrogod
    @joaopedrogod 6 місяців тому +6

    Don’t see any restrictions other that business to not include a M.2 slot and add a second SSD
    And boost base memory to 16GB in M3 and 24GB in M3 pro…
    For repairability the SoC can be socketed and same for SSD (ever if proprietary because the encryption, but if die don’t waste entire board)

  • @mclovin6537
    @mclovin6537 2 місяці тому

    I can’t get the bottom off 😂😂😂

  • @adrianceasar5620
    @adrianceasar5620 6 місяців тому

    can i replace my 14 m2 max board with 14 m3 max board:)?

  • @TomNook.
    @TomNook. 6 місяців тому +1

    Any laptop where you can't replace the SSD shouldn't even get a 2, let alone 4 out of 10.

  • @12345abcd_qwerty
    @12345abcd_qwerty 6 місяців тому +3

    expensive repairs is the reason moved away from Mac.

  • @bertlzansinger
    @bertlzansinger 6 місяців тому +6

    I strongly favour Apples unrivalled product quality.
    As they proceed in increasing the hurdles to prevent customers from reasonably repair, they drive me more and more out of the Apple ecosystem though.
    Bad conduct. Bad morals.

  • @eliezerz1950
    @eliezerz1950 3 місяці тому

    m3 macbook air next please

  • @JoaquinVacas
    @JoaquinVacas 6 місяців тому +15

    Hope Apple hears you.
    Year by year everything is getting ridiculous.

    • @daddyscrapes
      @daddyscrapes 6 місяців тому +2

      I don’t think Apple cares at this point

    • @Gurenn83
      @Gurenn83 6 місяців тому +2

      Don’t worry, macbook sales are already going down. To be honest, an M1 Air or Pro already does the job. Apple should be releasing laptops every 2 years, not yearly.

    • @TheRealPostpunker
      @TheRealPostpunker 6 місяців тому +3

      And maybe the legislation should prevent beautifully designed ewaste like this.

    • @JoaquinVacas
      @JoaquinVacas 6 місяців тому

      @@Gurenn83 almost not yearly. Check when M2 MacBook Pros were released...

  • @GalenlevyPhoto
    @GalenlevyPhoto 5 місяців тому

    The MacBook Pro with base M3 is $1799 with 8 gb ram and 1 tb SSD but for only $200 more you get a m3 pro with 18 gb ram and 512 gb SSD.

  • @alonzohaskell9634
    @alonzohaskell9634 6 місяців тому +6

    I relly love their product but replaced them this year and won't buy anything until their anti-cosumer behaviour is changed

  • @das.gegenmittel
    @das.gegenmittel 6 місяців тому +1

    Please investigate in the „dot Problem“ of These Laptops. They are using a Plastic Layer on top of the screen! And that gets damaged super fast!

  • @josefhorstus5851
    @josefhorstus5851 6 місяців тому +2

    I thought that Apple now reports to Mother Nature directly.

  • @lemonlimelukey
    @lemonlimelukey 5 місяців тому

    flash storage btw lmfao

  • @gaylordfocker7288
    @gaylordfocker7288 6 місяців тому +2

    So regarding the ram, I believe the way apple does it is to use most of your ram no matter how much you have. with 64 GB my m1 max will frequently be using 59+ when I'm not even doing intensive tasks. Knowing that, yours using 7 of 8 gigs right away is expected, and not necessarily a concern.

  • @jesseandersen4055
    @jesseandersen4055 6 місяців тому +1

    I think his name is Tim Apple

  • @JetSet11000
    @JetSet11000 6 місяців тому +2

    Why can't they just get people to return their mbps and have the new innards swapped out with the new M3 chip? It's the same darn chassis right same display, same ports ???? Why do they keep saying recycled when that makes more carbon in the atmosphere, how do they expect to reach their so called imaginary goal ?
    Is it too fantastical to suggest what I suggested to just swap out all the innards in an otherwise it's the same chassis as the M1's and M2's?

  • @iSowelu
    @iSowelu 6 місяців тому

    'So *when* it [SSD] fails'. Come on, guys.

  • @bubiorbi9818
    @bubiorbi9818 6 місяців тому +6

    yeah well why would you even buy a MacBook Pro with only 8gb of ram? why invest in a pro machine if your gonna put just 8gb in it

    • @PvtAnonymous
      @PvtAnonymous 6 місяців тому +9

      to look cool at Starbucks.

    • @sammyjammy6647
      @sammyjammy6647 6 місяців тому +1

      If anyone had any least bit of tech savviness, they would upgrade the ram if they were purchasing this particular base M3.

  • @Aleks_Vr
    @Aleks_Vr 6 місяців тому +4

    With the MacBook lid closed, the microphones do not work. Most likely because of this, the sensor of the angle of inclination of the lid is protected from replacement

  • @ivanjr.sidorok8551
    @ivanjr.sidorok8551 6 місяців тому

    Oh so you do still use 128g chips apple, smh
    base m2 air having that cut ssd perfomance to push users towards upgrade

  • @Becky5205
    @Becky5205 6 місяців тому +4

    If Apple just would put as much resources in making their devices repairable as they do with the design...

  • @paulbade3566
    @paulbade3566 6 місяців тому

    Apple should take another look at their memory map practices. I suggest a base RAM in the SOC, plus upgrade sockets. Likewise, storage memory should have a base amount, plus a PCIe slot for expansion, and a provision to permit mirroring of the SOC storage in the PCIe SSD as a backup measure. This could make the sale for those who turn up their noses at the non-expandable base model, but don't want to fork over a ridiculous amount for more memory capacity right away.
    The battery power cable should have a connector on the logic board end just in case it breaks. The trick is to keep it reliable, cheap, and short-circuit-proof if somebody undoes it without removing the battery end first.

  • @Omfcody1
    @Omfcody1 6 місяців тому +2

    If they're anodizing the case now just give us a Product Red option, please!

  • @kingech_B15
    @kingech_B15 3 місяці тому

    The extra fan makes it pro

  • @hishnash
    @hishnash 6 місяців тому +3

    The angle sensor is not paired but it does need to be calibrated

  • @snake9100
    @snake9100 6 місяців тому +1

    why 4? this is an 1 and nothing more

  • @t1e6x12
    @t1e6x12 6 місяців тому

    Gotta love these intentional issues they add in when you replace components.

  • @vasudevmenon2496
    @vasudevmenon2496 6 місяців тому +3

    The repairability score should be -4/10. I hope EU takes a stance and allow only repairable and unlocked parts swap on laptop. Anything less than the standard score should not be sold.

  • @jatigre1
    @jatigre1 6 місяців тому +1

    What do they mean by "Gigabytes"? Apple isn't shipping their Macs with at least 1 Tb HD?

    • @TheSpotify95
      @TheSpotify95 6 місяців тому +1

      Base model only has 512GB SSD, but more concerning is only 8GB RAM...

    • @jatigre1
      @jatigre1 6 місяців тому +3

      😒@@TheSpotify95

  • @RenierCronje
    @RenierCronje 25 днів тому

    In the early days, Apple’s innovation was nothing short of revolutionary, compelling us to embrace everything from iPhones to MacBooks, and even Apple TVs. Yet, it appears that Apple’s modern innovation or rather recent exovation is to regard our cash with indifference as disposable, making each purchase an exercise in diminishing returns.

  • @yagoa
    @yagoa 6 місяців тому

    Wrong, the NerdTool 1 can calibrate a M* lid angle sensors from any source

  • @MindBlowerWTF
    @MindBlowerWTF 4 місяці тому

    8 gb on pro model is just wrong.

  • @Sonderax
    @Sonderax 4 місяці тому

    8gb is a joke. I use 12gb regularly and am so glad i upgraded to 16.

  • @sahjadshekh
    @sahjadshekh 6 місяців тому

    2:56 because flow high amp

  • @timr.2257
    @timr.2257 6 місяців тому +2

    Apple supporting Right to Repair my ass.

  • @daddyscrapes
    @daddyscrapes 6 місяців тому +1

    R&D into a color 😂😂😂

  • @jedics1
    @jedics1 6 місяців тому +26

    Imagine if Apple decided to use its engineering power for for people and planet instead of profit.....I love my m1air but a soldered ssd that WILL fail is simply anti consumer and will remain so until they get forced to do the right thing like they were with UsbC for their phones. This is the crap corporations pull when they have zero competition or regulation.

    • @jensbondarenko9195
      @jensbondarenko9195 6 місяців тому +1

      This is also true for all defence industry companies too. If we the people would join forces a lot of diseases would be curable and nobody would starve. But this would be too much of communism.

    • @montex66
      @montex66 6 місяців тому +2

      I've got bad news for you. Every corporation (that means ALL OF THEM) exists only to generate profit and, this is the important part, corporations don't care how you feel about it. Now, can you guess what corporation is the most valuable in the world? Hint: it rhymes with bapple.

    • @jensbondarenko9195
      @jensbondarenko9195 6 місяців тому

      @@montex66 good to know ;)

    • @phillippereira6468
      @phillippereira6468 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@jensbondarenko9195yeah because communism has worked so well for so many people...

    • @emporioalnino4670
      @emporioalnino4670 6 місяців тому

      ​@@phillippereira6468it has! a whopping 0 deaths under communism compared to 500 billion thanks to capitalism.

  • @clpr635
    @clpr635 5 місяців тому +2

    I aint buying that unrepairable thing

  • @pluto762
    @pluto762 6 місяців тому +1

    If you follow Luis Rossmann you might not need to go through Apple for a lid sensor replacement. :)) But yeah, most users probably will...

    • @ericmatthews8497
      @ericmatthews8497 6 місяців тому

      I wouldn't trust Luis Rossman with my laptop.

  • @PKMNTrainerEevee
    @PKMNTrainerEevee 6 місяців тому +4

    I wouldnt ever buy a Mac. I really dislike the lack of the ability to upgrade my own PC.

    • @ericmatthews8497
      @ericmatthews8497 6 місяців тому +1

      I don't buy PCs anymore, because you can't get anything as good as a Mac. You can upgrade some hardware, but the rest is still less than a Mac. Solid construction (even the MacBook Air,) thin and light designs, excellent keyboards, the best trackpad in the industry, and optimized OS for the hardware, industry leading power efficiency and battery life. Even Mac value LCD displays in the MacBook Air ... out class PC OLED displays because Apple buy quality components and then calibrates them. PC makers buy crap and sell crap.

  • @larrymalpaya
    @larrymalpaya 3 місяці тому

    Nice..but why are you complaining about being unable to swap parts? If you can afford to buy a Mac, you should be able to afford the repair at Apple...

    • @KarlynGR
      @KarlynGR 3 місяці тому +1

      Not everyone is US based and has official store in their country.

  • @Drummer55
    @Drummer55 6 місяців тому +1

    Seriously? This is typical apple. Give them crumbs and call it a cake.

  • @AnotherOtherMan-alive
    @AnotherOtherMan-alive 6 місяців тому

    The memory on die/package isn't bad from a security perspective IF that memory is specifically for the OS while this will mean more die complexity to cordon these off and specific drivers for the OS to handle those as secure memory for the host OS only along with a second controller for off chip RAM. I think that is worth it in the long run for the industry as far as mobile devices are concerned but the key is that the on-chip memory shouldn't need to be greater that ~4GB realistically.

  • @oliverlison
    @oliverlison 6 місяців тому +1

    simply sad

    • @sammyjammy6647
      @sammyjammy6647 6 місяців тому

      For you. Don’t speak for anyone else.

  • @counteldamar5135
    @counteldamar5135 6 місяців тому

    I was going to spend a fortune on a 16inch macbook pro m3 max after watching this I cannot in good faith buy such a system with poor repair and upgrade ability...SHAME ON YOU APPLE

  • @kumarsajal8400
    @kumarsajal8400 6 місяців тому

    Apple and Google own the world

  • @Garythefireman66
    @Garythefireman66 6 місяців тому +5

    Apple screwing customers with parts pairing again 🤔

    • @sammyjammy6647
      @sammyjammy6647 6 місяців тому

      I don’t feel screwed. I think the channel operators personal agendas have infected your ability to think

  • @drtoxiccookie
    @drtoxiccookie 4 місяці тому

    I think more laptops are going to follow apple.
    Delay use your not going to notice bottle neck and it's not that bad.
    Apple your paying for quality and personal don't care about upgrade factor, i will be trading my old mac in when do upgrade for it.

  • @mr1bienvenu1
    @mr1bienvenu1 6 місяців тому +3

    I will NEVER buy another Apple anything 🤬