@lulusbedtimestories4864no it won't, as long as the gears can withstand the torque it will work, only problem is that the elevator will take minutes if not hours to travel one floor
I would have loved to have learned from this type of instruction at school! It all helps to make mathematics/engineering interesting, and enjoyable too. Excellent video!
Try using round shafts in your bearings, you are losing a lot of power and rigidity with those square beams which look like they are a loose fit for the bearings.
What would happen if you added additional parts of line. It looks like your problems were of structural nature rather than pull strength, but adding additional parts of line could reduce the line tension and resolve your line breaking issues.
So adding gears, decreases speed and increases torque. How does it affect the speed of the motor? I think because the load is increasing with all the gears it should be harder? Please educate me if I'm wrong
That calculation is just theoretical. In practically, we don’t get never 100% efficiency. Maybe the efficiency of that gears are 80-90% in industry but in this setup(3D printed etc.) the efficiency is always too low. There are a lot of things change the efficiency.
For testing the limit of the gears, you would need rigidder shafts, bearing, and support. A rounded shaft with a known diameter would let us understand the tork. It was a great video!!!
hi, Have you not tried this motor in a child's cart or bicycle to see how much it moves? The resistance should be less than that of lifting weight but it will work following the same gear patterns
Girls: Grandma, let me help you get up the stairs Boys: Grandma, we made this DIY elevator so you won't have the trouble to walk up and down the stairs anymore It's a joke guys, Man innovation
Completely new to this and just wondering what the metal bars with slots in them are called? I guess it is a modular prototyping/modelling part but can't for the life of me think what the name of it is so that I can look up the prices on ebay. Also, are there technical names for the bits&bobs that slide into them and a brand name or something that describes the whole kit and all the gubbings that can be attached? Many Thanks ( Apologies, I did look on his website, but could not find any clues as to what are are known as )
@@benholmquist3589 Hi Ben, Yes I did find it out and went down a right rabbit hole of 101 parts and accessories. They are know by different names but generally can be found by searching on ' t-Slot Aluminium Profile Extrusion'. A similar but different product is the 't-track t-slot system' which is mainly used on workbenches to slide things like routers about. I also found out that the cheapest prices and best deals tend to be ali express, especially if you buying multiples or large discount packs. Shop around would be my advice as there are quite a few sharks out there charging up to x3 for the same part that can be found on the chinese ali site.
I'm a mech eng. woking as software developer, and i wish more software devs approached problems like this. Bring in the "heavyweight" components / solutions gradually , only when they are clearly needed, after actual experiments!
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Merhaba arkadaşım, Büyük deneyimleri gizleyen proje ve akıllı çalışma şekli için tebrikler. görüşmek üzere. Büyük selamlar.
Would this little motor draw the same amount of energy and power to lift that weight vs using just a motor designed to lift that weight? what are the energy usage comparison
The smaller motor would use less energy. It will only ever be under ~2kg of stress before it gives up. The energy used by the motor never increases since it's not the component that's doing the heavy lifting. A larger motor with the capacity to pull ~58kg would need to be made of stronger materials which would be heavier and use more energy to move. I may be completely in the wrong about this, but I'm fairly certain that's right.
Nice. Do you know of a design where you have line a grip you hold in your hand and repeatedly pull a lever (google: hand expander) which then rolls up a string and pulls up something.
You can see the center bearing supprt deflect down under load. If you supported the bar that bearing is on, or shimmed the center bearing up by an amount thats just a little less than the deflection (so its level under a load) you may be able to slide past 60kg
It's the multiplication of all the gear ratio. 50:10 x 50:10 x 50:10 = 125. Using 3 pairs of gear with 50:10 ratio is equal to using 1 pair of gear with 1250:10 ratio.
It's really interesting this design. Would you think we could reuse the energy putting a generator (dynamo) in the same part where the object its lifted in order to reuse the energy, or will be more interesting to recuperate the energy from the first and littlest gear. I hope its clear my question, thanks a lot.
@@retsetman9698 How does the 6x6 shaft fit into the 608ZZ bearing? Because the inner width of the bearing is 8 mm while the 6x6 square shaft edge sum is 8.5 mm.
power of the motor =angular speed* Torque Heare the power of the small motor is very little then how we get mouch torque? won't this motor burn in continuous running? plese Explain
The huge increase of torque is due to the use of torque-focused gearing. Torque-focused gearing actually places the least strain on the motor. Speed-focused gearing is what wears down the motor.
Dude even at 50% speed this is too fast for my brain... id love to see this at a slower pace and really appreciate your hard work in detail... but right now its going all over my head.
If it was a 125:1 ratio, that motor only saw around 0.46KG at peak. It also means that the motor would have to spin 125cm for every cm the weight was lifted. I kinda understand why you sped the video up so much now..
Hello good morning. I thought this project was just amazing! I'm from Brazil and I'm doing a project at the faculty of mechanical engineering. I would like to know if it would be possible for you to give me the measurements of the gears, so that I can have a base to make mine, even if mine is a spur gear and your other model. I would be very grateful!!
57kg!!! Omg unbelievable 😱😱😱 with this small DC motor is able to lift an Adult Filipino fat guy or chonky guy! Hahaha... Amazing the science of mechanics!
knk son kısımda kuvveti tek yönden (dengelenmeden) iletmek yerine birbirini dengeleyecek şekilde birkaç tel ile aktarırsan oradaki çoğu sorun çözülür, yani mesela bir tel daha bağlayıp yukarıdaki bir makaradan tekrar aşağıya iletirsen ağırlık 2 tel arasında dengelenir, ve son metal üzerinde hiç bir ağırlık kalmaz. tüm yük makaraya verilir
The design of the bases and the building supporting the shaft and bearings were not in their best condition, because when you expect more power from an engine, you have to imagine a stronger bearing building for it, the load increases, the building should be stronger .. same as dodge ram vs Nissan Micra... Overall, I enjoyed it, thank you for sharing it shows us gears are so important in mechanical engineering.
No se por que no entiendes que el tercer eje tiene que ser más fuerte y que tiene que variar la potencia de los engranajes, entre menos giros más fuerza se aplicará. Realiza los cálculos de potencia necesarios
3D print experiment channel Hello everyone this is your daily dose of Recommendation Looks like Brick Experiment Channel expect instead of LEGO, it's 3D printed parts.
Ich hab das Video nicht angesehen, aber einen Hinweis lass ich da. Zahnräder sind genau wie Hebel inzwischen Physik und Mathematik geworden. Wissenschaft ist heute noch Werksstoff und demnächst Schmierung ohne Erdölvorkommen.
Plot twist, all cheap elevators are just powered by these plastic motors.
Wouldn’t that make them incredibly slow?
😂🤣😂🤣😂
New plot for you I used to work at a motor rewind shop that plastic motor is in better condition that 95%of elevator motors
5 days after... Floor 2
@lulusbedtimestories4864no it won't, as long as the gears can withstand the torque it will work, only problem is that the elevator will take minutes if not hours to travel one floor
The creators creating gear motion are really extraordinary
The evolutions were great ! Thank you for putting so much work into it !
I would have loved to have learned from this type of instruction at school! It all helps to make mathematics/engineering interesting, and enjoyable too. Excellent video!
-Honey, come for a dinner.
- No, mum, Im 3D printing my 911 porshe transmission
The gear ratio and how they works always amazes me
Try using round shafts in your bearings, you are losing a lot of power and rigidity with those square beams which look like they are a loose fit for the bearings.
I wish there were more channels make a similar stuff like you , amazing work man
there is, brick experiment channel
@@chickon2.0 Literally identical content, except with lego/mechano.
@@ConorFenlon but that channel is older i’m referring to the oldest video from 4 years ago compared to this one with 1 year ago
@@chickon2.0 Yeah I'm agreeing with you. It's very like brick experiment channel.
(He means that you are better than most lego channels)
What would happen if you added additional parts of line. It looks like your problems were of structural nature rather than pull strength, but adding additional parts of line could reduce the line tension and resolve your line breaking issues.
I love this so much! All the gear tests... and the files for me to play with! Thanks!
So cool to see these 3D items. Nice job my friend. 👍
Thank you my friend
your hardwork is appreciable
Awesome stuff. I appreciate how you concentrate on the testing
Thank's a lot my friend
@@retsetman9698 sir i had a question , sir what gear ratio need for 1000-4000 kg and how many gears need to put on that heavy load thanks for response
This contraption can lift me! Amazing
So adding gears, decreases speed and increases torque. How does it affect the speed of the motor? I think because the load is increasing with all the gears it should be harder? Please educate me if I'm wrong
Torque-focused gearing actually places the least strain on the motor. Speed-focused gearing is what wears down the motor.
Informative video bro!
Yes it was a bit like that. I actually wanted to see the maximum of this small 3v motor:D
I do not get it. Why when the gear ratio is 3:1, we do not get 1.8*3 but 3.6 kg and so on?
That calculation is just theoretical. In practically, we don’t get never 100% efficiency. Maybe the efficiency of that gears are 80-90% in industry but in this setup(3D printed etc.) the efficiency is always too low. There are a lot of things change the efficiency.
@@retsetman9698 Thank you!
For testing the limit of the gears, you would need rigidder shafts, bearing, and support. A rounded shaft with a known diameter would let us understand the tork. It was a great video!!!
I appreciate this experiment and I appreciate the Final Fantasy victory fanfare even more!
I was going to say use steel cable. You can also fill the metal tubes with something. Thanks.
i love how you changed the build every time to fix breaking parts problem
hi,
Have you not tried this motor in a child's cart or bicycle to see how much it moves? The resistance should be less than that of lifting weight but it will work following the same gear patterns
Could you tell me what kind of pla have you used? Some special brand? Very interesting, thank you!!
It is a local Turkish product. its name is porima3d and the material is pla
Great inspiration from Brick Experiment Channel! Using more common prototyping materials rather than Lego adds some extra chances for learning 👌
I thought this too! same energy, loved it, lmao
Loved the video and could feel the frustration as well 😀
Where are those 200kg?
Girls: Grandma, let me help you get up the stairs
Boys: Grandma, we made this DIY elevator so you won't have the trouble to walk up and down the stairs anymore
It's a joke guys, Man innovation
Wow ! well done I thought you will not go beyond 12 kg, congrats for your 5x success! keep posting new trials
Completely new to this and just wondering what the metal bars with slots in them are called? I guess it is a modular prototyping/modelling part but can't for the life of me think what the name of it is so that I can look up the prices on ebay. Also, are there technical names for the bits&bobs that slide into them and a brand name or something that describes the whole kit and all the gubbings that can be attached? Many Thanks ( Apologies, I did look on his website, but could not find any clues as to what are are known as )
Did you figure this out? Same question 😅
@@benholmquist3589 Hi Ben, Yes I did find it out and went down a right rabbit hole of 101 parts and accessories. They are know by different names but generally can be found by searching on ' t-Slot Aluminium Profile Extrusion'. A similar but different product is the 't-track t-slot system' which is mainly used on workbenches to slide things like routers about. I also found out that the cheapest prices and best deals tend to be ali express, especially if you buying multiples or large discount packs. Shop around would be my advice as there are quite a few sharks out there charging up to x3 for the same part that can be found on the chinese ali site.
Alluminum rods i believe
They're usually called aluminum square tubes, although I think aluminum square bars fit this project better.
I'm a mech eng. woking as software developer, and i wish more software devs approached problems like this. Bring in the "heavyweight" components / solutions gradually , only when they are clearly needed, after actual experiments!
Merhaba arkadaşım,
Büyük deneyimleri gizleyen proje ve akıllı çalışma şekli için tebrikler. görüşmek üzere. Büyük selamlar.
Çok teşekkürler ☺️ görüşmek üzere, selamlar🖐🖐
Can you provide CREO links of these designs
Very impressive and educational!
Amazing! What are those metal rails you build the frame with called?
Aluminum chanel
Would this little motor draw the same amount of energy and power to lift that weight vs using just a motor designed to lift that weight? what are the energy usage comparison
The smaller motor would use less energy. It will only ever be under ~2kg of stress before it gives up. The energy used by the motor never increases since it's not the component that's doing the heavy lifting. A larger motor with the capacity to pull ~58kg would need to be made of stronger materials which would be heavier and use more energy to move.
I may be completely in the wrong about this, but I'm fairly certain that's right.
Are those number tooth per count on the left of the chart
wonderful testing experiences!
Thanks a lot my friend
I am surprised about the (lack of) strength in your metal axle.
Pretty sure they are hollow
Loved the final fantasy ending and your demonstration thanks 🎉
Very good presentation .... Brilliant
#Gratitude
Nice. Do you know of a design where you have line a grip you hold in your hand and repeatedly pull a lever (google: hand expander) which then rolls up a string and pulls up something.
Nice bro , well done 👍🏻👍🏻
Bro what is the size of all gears you have used and i need details about it
EVERYTHING is done using science.
What do you call the study of mechanical gears. Hydraulics and Pulleys???
which 3d printed gear set did you use? Great Video!
Awesome vid 👏👏
You can see the center bearing supprt deflect down under load. If you supported the bar that bearing is on, or shimmed the center bearing up by an amount thats just a little less than the deflection (so its level under a load) you may be able to slide past 60kg
How do you get the gears without a 3d printer? (What are the sizes of the gears?)
What are the square bars called? I've been trying to find them.
125:1? where did that number come from? please someone answer my question
It's the multiplication of all the gear ratio.
50:10 x 50:10 x 50:10 = 125.
Using 3 pairs of gear with 50:10 ratio is equal to using 1 pair of gear with 1250:10 ratio.
i am very surprised at how much weight that little DC motor could lift !
That thing could carry a whole ass child bro😮
How many watt's per hour does the motor uses to lift the 58kg?
I used 5v 0.25a
@@retsetman9698 wow thanks, that's incredible. Good job
Thank you for the video. I have a question why I stopped adding gears. Are there limits? And who is responsible for the number of gears, my respects
Eventually, the inertia and friction of all the gears, bearings and axles will add up to overwhelm the motor.
It's really interesting this design.
Would you think we could reuse the energy putting a generator (dynamo) in the same part where the object its lifted in order to reuse the energy, or will be more interesting to recuperate the energy from the first and littlest gear. I hope its clear my question, thanks a lot.
Sir what is volts and rpm and watts of DC motor.....
Для обеспечения правильного зубчатого зацепления валы должны быть жесткими!
Would be better if you measered &displayed power consumption of the motor itself in real time
what kind of framing did you use?
Sir what is the diameter of each gears and what is DC motor Watt/rpm
Worm gears look at this with superiority. Also you could recuce used material by cutting triangular holes in wheels.
Gear power is just a amazing thing..... As High RPM as high torque can be generated
What is the diameter of each gears
Wow amazing with small electric motor can lift an average weight of Filipino adult 50kg-53kg, you are almost there...
Anyone know the size of that motor please?
What size is the bearing?
8mm-608zz
@@retsetman9698 How does the 6x6 shaft fit into the 608ZZ bearing? Because the inner width of the bearing is 8 mm while the 6x6 square shaft edge sum is 8.5 mm.
Sir What is the diameter of each gears
So someone riddle me this. If i took a 2000 pound capable winch and put it on this system but backwards i would get a shit tonne of speed?
waooo I never see before it's amazing 🤩😘😘❤️ love you from Pakistan Sialkot 🤪👌
power of the motor =angular speed* Torque
Heare the power of the small motor is very little then how we get mouch torque? won't this motor burn in continuous running? plese Explain
The huge increase of torque is due to the use of torque-focused gearing. Torque-focused gearing actually places the least strain on the motor. Speed-focused gearing is what wears down the motor.
what 3d printer did you use?
Nice video, thanks :)
Loved it 😊
Dude even at 50% speed this is too fast for my brain... id love to see this at a slower pace and really appreciate your hard work in detail... but right now its going all over my head.
Maybe try steel square stock as opposed to aluminum
P.s. try a 12 volt whipper motor out of a car to drive the gears .... ?
very good shearing dear
If it was a 125:1 ratio, that motor only saw around 0.46KG at peak. It also means that the motor would have to spin 125cm for every cm the weight was lifted. I kinda understand why you sped the video up so much now..
Hello good morning. I thought this project was just amazing! I'm from Brazil and I'm doing a project at the faculty of mechanical engineering. I would like to know if it would be possible for you to give me the measurements of the gears, so that I can have a base to make mine, even if mine is a spur gear and your other model. I would be very grateful!!
Uma ótima aula !
57kg!!! Omg unbelievable 😱😱😱 with this small DC motor is able to lift an Adult Filipino fat guy or chonky guy! Hahaha... Amazing the science of mechanics!
You and I have a VASTLY DIFFERENT definition of “heavy”…
Try to make screw gears with sequence of gears. I expect he can lift 2 adult Filipinos... It can reach up to 100kg!!!
Nice mostly valuable video of the world.
Don't be redundant, Everything we do uses "Science"
Suffice to say, your machine will rip itself apart before your printed gears break.
knk son kısımda kuvveti tek yönden (dengelenmeden) iletmek yerine birbirini dengeleyecek şekilde birkaç tel ile aktarırsan oradaki çoğu sorun çözülür, yani mesela bir tel daha bağlayıp yukarıdaki bir makaradan tekrar aşağıya iletirsen ağırlık 2 tel arasında dengelenir, ve son metal üzerinde hiç bir ağırlık kalmaz. tüm yük makaraya verilir
tabi 2 tel arasındaki açı 180 derece olmalı, yada olabilğince
The design of the bases and the building supporting the shaft and bearings were not in their best condition, because when you expect more power from an engine, you have to imagine a stronger bearing building for it, the load increases, the building should be stronger .. same as dodge ram vs Nissan Micra...
Overall, I enjoyed it, thank you for sharing
it shows us gears are so important in mechanical engineering.
awesome
Thanks
Much simpler if used a worm wheel arrangement.
No se por que no entiendes que el tercer eje tiene que ser más fuerte y que tiene que variar la potencia de los engranajes, entre menos giros más fuerza se aplicará. Realiza los cálculos de potencia necesarios
that small 5v motor can lift my motorbike
Can i ask a question in private?
3D print experiment channel
Hello everyone this is your daily dose of Recommendation
Looks like Brick Experiment Channel expect instead of LEGO, it's 3D printed parts.
And where is 200?
Great Video!
wtf this could pull me up
Now time to use it as an elevator for my 2 story house and as lift for materials to get heavy stuff up easily and also for my grandma that can't walk
Ich hab das Video nicht angesehen, aber einen Hinweis lass ich da. Zahnräder sind genau wie Hebel inzwischen Physik und Mathematik geworden. Wissenschaft ist heute noch Werksstoff und demnächst Schmierung ohne Erdölvorkommen.
This video format reminds me of Brick experiment channel for some reason