it has magazine cause kim ir sen loved czech guns like zb-26. Also its for "patrol" use to reduce weight or something like that. but its just for looks. and ye bren is zb26 variant
@@sectero9450 its easier to move the gun with a magazine and be ready to fire than with a 50 round belt that doesn't disintegrate . especially in towns and city . and it can be fired at at high angles like up at top floors of buildings with a magazine as belt fed pk don't like pointing up
shortage of belt-fed full-size cartridge MGs, which were forcely pressed into a role of quad support weapon replacing RPK after Afghanistan and Chechnya expierence were widely known from last year. At least NK weird PK would be better then RPDs.
You should take a look at the 170mm Koksan SPGs they're using too. That means that long- range 170mm guns based on a German design will be used in Kursk... now on the Russian side.
It's unknown if they're related to the German 17 cms, no one has access to the history of the weapon system to figure that out. The idea that it's based on German designs comes from the fact that only Germany used 17 cms and the guns look similarish. Minor issue is that the 17 cm weapon systems aren't actually 170 mm, they're rounded down to 17 cm from 172.5 mm.
@@ivankochin6089 It's fair to suspect their quality but NK's artillery is probably alright. This design is afaik very effective with a phenomenal range and has been used in combat before.
We don't see Russia used those so called obsolete small arms in front line combat. Only one image of Type 73 everybody already have hysterical that Russia is so run out of small arms they had to ask from north Korea no it's not
R/Korea determined that the soldiers at 2:31 were indeed speaking Korean. I doubt that a sizable amount of South Koreans have volunteered with Russian forces so this definitively proves that North Koreans are at least training in Russia and being equipped with russian gear (EMR camo and AK-12). I believe that the type 73s and NK SPGs found earlier this week are just North Korean gear that has been transferred along with the brigade in the normal logistical kerfuffle that accompanies transfer of troops, (ie, "these 50 crates sitting in the barracks warehouse are marked so they are coming with us") so they are being used as they are already there.
That's bs, about 60% of russian citizens are not ethnic russians. There are almost 200 nationalities living in Russia, so it could be anyone. No matter what they say about it but Russia is a culturally rich country.
Well as I mentioned they've already had some battlefield use in the Middle East but this would be the first time they'd have direct feedback on them I'd imagine.
Very interesting. The appearance of North Korean troops and the simultaneous appearance of this weapon doesn’t necessarily mean this particular weapon is used by a North Korean unit but the Russian cammo doesn’t mean it’s not. The North Koreans were equipped with Russian uniforms, rucksacks etc. The outcome of the US election is almost certainly bad news for the Ukrainians, otherwise, I would have believed the presence of North Korean troops would certainly have provoked a retaliatory response from the West.
I would think it would be less of a hassle to give the DPRK troops Russian PKMs. It would ease logistics and allow the DPRK troops to draw supply from nearby, friendly units in an emergencies.
Tbh I doubt the Russians are desperate enough to be using these in combat. I think it’s more likely that they are just doing weapons familiarity training with North Korean equipment that their allies are using.
Interestingly, Iran's domestic SALW production is self-sufficient since the Iran-Iraq War - building reverse-engineered designs from scratch without imports and in increasing numbers. In contrast, Russia's SALW production never recovered from the events of 1991 and has only declined. Russia has never supplied any small arm built since 1991 for this reason (except small numbers of AK-103 for reverse-engineering purposes - it became the Iranian-produced AK-133).
@uniformmike05 I said Iran is not likely supplying small arms to Russia, mainly drones. It would not be unusual as Iran did build PPSH guns in World War 2 and supplied them to the USSR but in this case it is not likely. I also think the North Korean Type 73 was likely provided to the North Korean troops for their sole usage. Obviously Kim Jong Un wants his men to have some real combat experince.
To basically the Type 73 Machine Gun is essentially a special Purpse PKM that can take bren style 30 round mags or a standard 100 round box for a PKM, different design
I do find it a little interesting that the default guess as to why Russia would be using anything from North Korea would be Russian shortages and desperation. The only reason I can see for this line of reasoning is, well, "pride". Tbf, there is also the question of soldier platform familiarity and maybe logistics, but for a lot of things, that's not a big deal if you're not paying for it right now; especially if you're a bit of a fan of just throwing meat into the grinder. I do happen to agree that the Russian state is likely too proud to use gear from outside if they have their own readily at hand; but they may well just be taking advantage of a very helpful, eager-to-please North Korea. It does *look* like the Russian military is running out of a lot of things, but we ought to be careful of seeing things like "aid" from outside and then guessing it's only out of raw desperation
We have seen images of North Korean artillery called "Koksan", but for Russia to import small arms from NK they must have really sold of a lot of stocked armes after the Soviet collapse. Will you do video on Russian small arms such as DVL-10 and VSS/AS VAL?
PKs and PKMs being designed as company-level machine gun were never meant to be produced in numbers to fulfil role of squad automatic weapon, into which PKMs were forcefully pressed after Afghanistan and Chechnya expierence to replace RPK. Now there are a lot of troops actually evaluating RPK (previously disregarded as "under machinegun"/"over-AK") being more suited for warfare against somewhat capable foe. PKM was just so great of company-level MG that it was hard to evade temptation of giving it to every squad machine gunners, and now instead of admitting mistakes trying to find ways around to keep things as they made.
I actually quite like the North Korean Type 73 as it's a bit different with some interesting features and it's not just a cheap knock-off like alot of weapons from Iran, North Korea and China! It's probably a bit handier in close quarters battle than some of the other machine guns. It just shows how far the supposedly "great" Russia has fallen when they're relying on arms shipments from Rogue nations Iran, North Korea and China! Slavaukraine
I rather like how the NorKs modified the construction of the cartridge extractor to make it easier to manufacture under "sloppier" conditions. It's a tiny thing, but an actual improvement over the original PK part, and one that acknowledges the reality of NorK manufacturing quality control.
People always forget or think that because such weapons are long past their due date doesn’t mean they are useless. The nature of this war although the most ‘modern’ once since downfall of Saddams Iraq (equipment context wise) Can still suffice firearms such as this.
This is one of my favorite guns that I'll never own, simply because it's ridiculous. There's so many features, it's almost like they started designing it and didn't stop
So…it’s basically a North Korean Bren gun that can feed from a WW1 style belt and firing a cartridge dating back to 1891…..okay then.. 👍 Edit: Yes; I know from a technical point of view, that its a PK that’s capable of feeding from a top loaded magazine
Might just be familiarity training for Russian soldiers, but you'd wonder why, given the comparatively low numbers of Russian soldiers who'll actually encounter North Korean troops. Unless...
Unlikely to be short of them in frontline units but they may be looking for alternatives for training units. It has been discussed on Russian telegram channels in the last 16 months.
Small arms are very easy to make, only the gullible masses would believe the Russian would ran out of AKs. If the Russia were able to make space stations, rocket, shells, fighter planes, why would they have a shortage of 100x cheaper firearms?
These are likely old stock from a Russian alley. Could have easily come from NK. NK is likely sending stuff they plan to replace but is still in good working condition. They don't want to send the machine guns they are currently using.
Not an expert but i doubt theyre from the middle east, their conditionl ooks way too pristine to have come from there as id imagine they would show much heavier wear if from Iran, the wood looks new and the metal parts look unchipped and unworn, heck even the ammo cans look great
@luciusartorius3437 plausible but with how much activity(fighting) goes on in those regions plus the environment just gives more credit that they're coming from NK, but at the end of the day nobody knows for sure as none of these countries keep accurate records anyways
this is the equivalent of taking a photo of US troops using goofy old guns from the back of their armory for a fun range day and then stating "LOOK AT HOW DESPERATE THE US MUST BE!! THIS IS SOO EMBARRASSING" this has been the level of journalism for the entirety of the conflict in Russia, and the biggest shame is that anyone with intellectual integrity now has to stop and question the entire authenticity of any information from events like this in the past. Its just such poor insight into the nuanced reality of whatever is going on
No, not really. It might be a 'here's this odd GPMG' that our allies are using. Which is why I actually haven't definitively said Russia are using them unlike some outlets.
@ if you "read the room" thats certainly the implication, or at least what everyone is taking away from this. I guess you might have to accept that your audience is generally retarted then. No offense to you personally
I think the explanation that the North Korean troops came fully equipped, and are being re-equipped with Russian uniforms, documents, and equipment to maintain the fig leaf they are "Russian" troops. Meanwhile, Russia *is* short on modern small arms, as has been well documented by *Russian* sources, with new drafts of conscripts and reservist callups being equipped with old, barely serviceable arms (like 1960s era and heavily rusted, AKMs rather than even first generation, Afghan War era AK74s or post-Soviet AK74M rifles. Also, logistics support to puppet troops in the Donbas has included Moisin-Nagants, DP LMGs, and Maxim MGs. Thus, roughly a division's worth of lightly used, fully serviceable, ammunition compatible small arms of relatively recent vintage would be a logistical benefit not to be ignored. And issuing thrm out to unambiguously "European" Russian troops wouldnt endanger the deception plan of trying to hide where the North Korean troops are being used. If photos of the North Korean pattern AK74 rifle with the unique helical magazine start to emerge in Ukraine or SW Russia adjacent to Ukraine, it would be a strong bit of supporting data for the, "Well, the NorK guns were just *sitting* there, so we issued them!" hypothesis.
I've also seen a picture (frame from drone footage) of a Nork who's wearing multicam and his plate carrier is a dark blue pixelated pattern that looks strikingly similar to the pattern that debuted in North Korea's 2020 parade which was worn by an element of the KPASOF. Unfortunately, the people who uploaded the parade decided to talk over it with their own speculation so I couldn't translate the transcript to determine exactly who they were.
@@winterautumnfishing5215If that was true, they wouldn't have been issuing rusty AKMs from deep stores last year. As documented by Russian soldier's own social media postings.
There is only one documented case of rusty AK in 2022 and likely to be fake and people already assume Russia use rusty weapons despite 99% of war footage shown Russia used more or less modern AK-74 or AK-12. And now people trying to made up another cope that Russia ran out of small arms only because of one image of Korean LMGs despite thousands of footage shown Russia used their own PK machine guns
Contrary to public mythos, the modern Russian iterations of Soviet weapons (AK-12, PKP, etc.) are actually quite expensive to produce today. Raw materials must be bought at market value, massive stamping assembly lines have been replaced by highly-expensive and complex individual machines (CNC machines, lathes, etc.), cheap communist labour is gone in favour of higher-qualified workers demanding market-equivalent wages to run these individual machines, and demand is low as more export customers crowd the global market with domestic production of similar classes of designs. The Type 73s you see in Russia are built similar to past Soviet circumstances and are going to be adequate enough for sending troops off to meat grinder purposes.
Literally a propagandistic lies. Small arms are extremely cheap and I am very doubtful that Russia that could produce missiles, jets, warship cannot produce large numbers of firearms.
@@dauzlee2827 Missiles, jets, etc. have nothing to do with SALW. The comparison is being made between SALW like the Type 73 in the video vs. Russian equivalents. NK is cheaper by far. By the way, Russia is also having trouble with missile, jet, and warship production. They already import Hwasongs and must salvage parts to keep aircraft flying. Oh, and where is the Kuznetsov carrier? I can't find it. Is it anywhere ready for deployment? Haven't seen the Moskva lately, either.
This is some Warhammer 40k type looking weapon, now that notlrth Koreans are fighting for ruZZia you brits and Americans have no moral right to say that you are our allies, we see no american or britush troops here, only brave volunteers 🫡
Although the machine gun is surprisingly decent, it is still hilarious how far Russia keeps falling. First artillery shells and missile, now firearms from North Korea…
Its a partnership like your "warm brothers" from nato assalience, its not a help, its traning ground for the koreans, hunting nato equiped ukrainians and mercs on russian territory, and gaining precious military experience you dumbass.
@winterautumnfishing5215 I have seen interviews of Russian soldiers in Ukraine who criticized RPK, saying that they replaced it with PK as soon as they could. Since some soldiers were issued RPK, that means that there are not enough PKs, and I don't believe the situation got any better after Russian forces grew in numbers
news flash a bullet from a top feed magazine is still a bullet, also side note i find it funny how all the gung ho american iraq/afghan vets turned tail after they realised (how stupid can you be) that russia isnt the taliban.
I doubt it. They've been tested in conflict. They're not even a currently primary NK weapon system (they serve alongside the Type 82 PK). I think a shortage of GPMGs isn't outside the realms of possibility even if it's use for training units.
@@colbunkmust well yeah, but seizing other nations boats on high seas seems to be the stereotypical piratism. Also sending arms to Houthis (actual Yemen?), Syria, hamas or Hezbollah are all quite different things... and lets not forget that USA shipped Libyas weapons to AQ and ISIS to Iraq and Syria... world is not black and white.
@@thiscouldntblowmore Iran was not openly selling weapons to the internationally recognized Yemeni gov. in Aden. Iran is using disguised vessels to smuggle arms to the Houthis. What you refer to as "actual Yemen?" isn't a recognized state and has attacked and seized numerous commercial vessels most of which are completely neutral parties. There are international agreements(UNCLOS) defining piracy, and US forces, or any military for that matter, has internationally recognized legal right to prosecute pirates for their actions. If that involves intercepting and seizing their arms being smuggled to them, then that is not piracy and is an action supported by law. In fact, it's a law even ratified and signed by the Yemeni government. Using the "world is not black and white" analogy here is an nothing but an empty platitude that doesn't stand when put into context.
Iran hasn't had these since the 80s. Their self-sufficiency in SALW production since the Iran-Iraq War has led them to create and standardize production in better designs and in larger numbers. Their Type 73s were probably given away to their group of choice decades ago.
Thanks for watching, check out our accompanying article for this video here -
armourersbench.com/2024/11/17/is-russia-using-north-korean-type-73s/
close enough, welcome back Bren gun
it has magazine cause kim ir sen loved czech guns like zb-26. Also its for "patrol" use to reduce weight or something like that. but its just for looks. and ye bren is zb26 variant
Bren gun is more handsome!
@@samholdsworth420 well ofcourse since the british took ZB-26 and upgraded it to BREN :D
@@sectero9450 its easier to move the gun with a magazine and be ready to fire than with a 50 round belt that doesn't disintegrate . especially in towns and city . and it can be fired at at high angles like up at top floors of buildings with a magazine as belt fed pk don't like pointing up
Cursed commie Bren doesn't exist, it can't-
this counts as a crossover with forgotten weapons.
We've crossed over in the past haha. I did a chat with him on his channel and he did the outro for one of mine as a joke a few years back.
@@TheArmourersBench do you have the link to that vid
Rather than a shortage, isn’t it logical that North Korean troops are using the weapons which they trained on?
What do you mean? They have been purposefully giving them identical Russian gear so they aren't caught publicly.
@@commoncriminal923 I hate to break it to you, but Koreans don't look or sound like Russians
shortage of belt-fed full-size cartridge MGs, which were forcely pressed into a role of quad support weapon replacing RPK after Afghanistan and Chechnya expierence were widely known from last year. At least NK weird PK would be better then RPDs.
@@commoncriminal923
Where are you getting that from?
Then we would see prisoner north koreans
You should take a look at the 170mm Koksan SPGs they're using too. That means that long- range 170mm guns based on a German design will be used in Kursk... now on the Russian side.
Creatures do not use right now, but in pretty close future could be. But about effective I am not sure.
It's unknown if they're related to the German 17 cms, no one has access to the history of the weapon system to figure that out. The idea that it's based on German designs comes from the fact that only Germany used 17 cms and the guns look similarish. Minor issue is that the 17 cm weapon systems aren't actually 170 mm, they're rounded down to 17 cm from 172.5 mm.
@@ivankochin6089 It's fair to suspect their quality but NK's artillery is probably alright. This design is afaik very effective with a phenomenal range and has been used in combat before.
@randomwarehouse4702 I know, that creatures have problems with NK shells and a specially with propellant charges. Charges are too different
@@file4130 Yeah, I remember reading something similar on Wikipedia. It was a simplification to make the comparison work.
It could be a shortage. I can't help thinking this war is an opportunity to test equipment in the field under real battle conditions.
I don't think so. We didn't see handheld version of PKT by Russia, but in 2022 We saw handheld version of PKT by Ukraine then they had a shortage.
We don't see Russia used those so called obsolete small arms in front line combat. Only one image of Type 73 everybody already have hysterical that Russia is so run out of small arms they had to ask from north Korea no it's not
Why would it be shortage?
"PK BREN isnt real, it cant hurt you"
PK BREN:
(Its basically a PK(M) adopted to take magazines
The Bren is more handsome though 😜
Sadly probably worse then this tbh@@samholdsworth420
PSA secretly is making this.
If they don't some 3D printing dude will
I Blast air from my nose reading this 😂
R/Korea determined that the soldiers at 2:31 were indeed speaking Korean. I doubt that a sizable amount of South Koreans have volunteered with Russian forces so this definitively proves that North Koreans are at least training in Russia and being equipped with russian gear (EMR camo and AK-12). I believe that the type 73s and NK SPGs found earlier this week are just North Korean gear that has been transferred along with the brigade in the normal logistical kerfuffle that accompanies transfer of troops, (ie, "these 50 crates sitting in the barracks warehouse are marked so they are coming with us") so they are being used as they are already there.
Quite possibly. I await further sightings!
That's bs, about 60% of russian citizens are not ethnic russians. There are almost 200 nationalities living in Russia, so it could be anyone. No matter what they say about it but Russia is a culturally rich country.
1:10 comrade unlocked nice chrome skin
Oh yeah, WTF?!?
Temu Bren
Maybe the North Koreans want to see if their weapons are reliable in real world combat
Well as I mentioned they've already had some battlefield use in the Middle East but this would be the first time they'd have direct feedback on them I'd imagine.
Very interesting. The appearance of North Korean troops and the simultaneous appearance of this weapon doesn’t necessarily mean this particular weapon is used by a North Korean unit but the Russian cammo doesn’t mean it’s not. The North Koreans were equipped with Russian uniforms, rucksacks etc. The outcome of the US election is almost certainly bad news for the Ukrainians, otherwise, I would have believed the presence of North Korean troops would certainly have provoked a retaliatory response from the West.
Exactly so, we won't know more until we see more I think. Thanks for watching.
I would think it would be less of a hassle to give the DPRK troops Russian PKMs. It would ease logistics and allow the DPRK troops to draw supply from nearby, friendly units in an emergencies.
Tbh I doubt the Russians are desperate enough to be using these in combat. I think it’s more likely that they are just doing weapons familiarity training with North Korean equipment that their allies are using.
Could be. Like I say, we await seeing NKs in actual combat to see what their kits like.
Iran supplying small arms to Russia, isn't it the other way around usually?
Interestingly, Iran's domestic SALW production is self-sufficient since the Iran-Iraq War - building reverse-engineered designs from scratch without imports and in increasing numbers. In contrast, Russia's SALW production never recovered from the events of 1991 and has only declined. Russia has never supplied any small arm built since 1991 for this reason (except small numbers of AK-103 for reverse-engineering purposes - it became the Iranian-produced AK-133).
@@eddietat95 Thanks for clarification! I was really a bit surprised by this, not really up-to-date with that region of the world.
Nah.
@@MrBahjatt Single-word comments like that are completely useless. Noone understands anything. What are you trying to say?
@uniformmike05
I said Iran is not likely supplying small arms to Russia, mainly drones. It would not be unusual as Iran did build PPSH guns in World War 2 and supplied them to the USSR but in this case it is not likely. I also think the North Korean Type 73 was likely provided to the North Korean troops for their sole usage. Obviously Kim Jong Un wants his men to have some real combat experince.
If North Korean soldiers are in Russia it makes sense they would bring firearms they are already familiar with.
Well they used AK and PK clones at home too so they should be fairly familiar. Who knows at this point. Thanks for watching.
To basically the Type 73 Machine Gun is essentially a special Purpse PKM that can take bren style 30 round mags or a standard 100 round box for a PKM, different design
There is no clamp for belt box on Type 73, so only 250 round belts.
I do find it a little interesting that the default guess as to why Russia would be using anything from North Korea would be Russian shortages and desperation. The only reason I can see for this line of reasoning is, well, "pride". Tbf, there is also the question of soldier platform familiarity and maybe logistics, but for a lot of things, that's not a big deal if you're not paying for it right now; especially if you're a bit of a fan of just throwing meat into the grinder. I do happen to agree that the Russian state is likely too proud to use gear from outside if they have their own readily at hand; but they may well just be taking advantage of a very helpful, eager-to-please North Korea.
It does *look* like the Russian military is running out of a lot of things, but we ought to be careful of seeing things like "aid" from outside and then guessing it's only out of raw desperation
Double-stack single-feed rimmed cartridges that are pulled out of the rear of the magazine? How much harder could it be?
This is why top Korea is best Korea. Genius leader made the most best machine gun!
Not much, but it's also the only type of mag that would work without completely abandoning the PK based internals
*M1909 Benet-Mercie enters the room*
If i remember correctly its built like that to accept both magazines and belts
It boggles the mind that its even conceivable that Ruzzia might have to import small arms.
Except it doesn't, with that small ukrainian shill brain you can't even come to a logical conclusion
We have seen images of North Korean artillery called "Koksan", but for Russia to import small arms from NK they must have really sold of a lot of stocked armes after the Soviet collapse.
Will you do video on Russian small arms such as DVL-10 and VSS/AS VAL?
Yes planning to, have been tracking Russian suppressed carbine use. Thanks for watching!
@@TheArmourersBench Great to hear! Always been curious of how those rifles would perform in real world urban combat and not just in theory.
PKs and PKMs being designed as company-level machine gun were never meant to be produced in numbers to fulfil role of squad automatic weapon, into which PKMs were forcefully pressed after Afghanistan and Chechnya expierence to replace RPK. Now there are a lot of troops actually evaluating RPK (previously disregarded as "under machinegun"/"over-AK") being more suited for warfare against somewhat capable foe. PKM was just so great of company-level MG that it was hard to evade temptation of giving it to every squad machine gunners, and now instead of admitting mistakes trying to find ways around to keep things as they made.
Thanks again, Matt.
This thing looks like something from an anime or some other type of fiction
I actually quite like the North Korean Type 73 as it's a bit different with some interesting features and it's not just a cheap knock-off like alot of weapons from Iran, North Korea and China! It's probably a bit handier in close quarters battle than some of the other machine guns.
It just shows how far the supposedly "great" Russia has fallen when they're relying on arms shipments from Rogue nations Iran, North Korea and China!
Slavaukraine
I rather like how the NorKs modified the construction of the cartridge extractor to make it easier to manufacture under "sloppier" conditions. It's a tiny thing, but an actual improvement over the original PK part, and one that acknowledges the reality of NorK manufacturing quality control.
People always forget or think that because such weapons are long past their due date doesn’t mean they are useless.
The nature of this war although the most ‘modern’ once since downfall of Saddams Iraq (equipment context wise) Can still suffice firearms such as this.
This is one of my favorite guns that I'll never own, simply because it's ridiculous. There's so many features, it's almost like they started designing it and didn't stop
The leaves and grass there could probably be used to identify the region... But heck if I know what they are.
Fascinating, thanks.
Nicely informative.
Is Russia Using North Korean Type 73s?
Well not really, they are using North Koreans who are using type 73's.
Is there any evidence of other North Korean guns appearing in Ukraine like Type 88 AK with its strange tubular-like mags?
Those Type 88s haven't come up yet, but there are pics out there of Type 58s (AKM copies) with the Korean markings.
Haven't seen any Type 58s myself, interesting if so
Brennikov
And the USSR still blows chunks
Literally Bren gun
Bren can't be belt fed
@@winterautumnfishing5215 with some mod can ))
Bren machine gun from Aliexpress
Fort-600 and RPV-16 vid when
After the much promised MSBS Grot video.
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It could be gun not from NK, could be from Iran. According to unconfirmed information, Iran got license to this machine gun in 1980th.
I mention that in the video. 👍
I miss when i could tell who was which side based on camo, i hate this overused multicam/mixpat patterns so much..
No surprise at all.
So…it’s basically a North Korean Bren gun that can feed from a WW1 style belt and firing a cartridge dating back to 1891…..okay then.. 👍
Edit: Yes; I know from a technical point of view, that its a PK that’s capable of feeding from a top loaded magazine
They're using both
Could these weapons be for soldiers guarding the rear, that way they won't be just equipped with Mosins nagants.
North Korea sending their older equipment and keeping the newer stuff at home ?
Might just be familiarity training for Russian soldiers, but you'd wonder why, given the comparatively low numbers of Russian soldiers who'll actually encounter North Korean troops.
Unless...
Highly doubt the Russians have a shortage of PKs lol. Cmon guys. That’s such a tired trope.
Unlikely to be short of them in frontline units but they may be looking for alternatives for training units. It has been discussed on Russian telegram channels in the last 16 months.
Small arms are very easy to make, only the gullible masses would believe the Russian would ran out of AKs. If the Russia were able to make space stations, rocket, shells, fighter planes, why would they have a shortage of 100x cheaper firearms?
These are likely old stock from a Russian alley. Could have easily come from NK. NK is likely sending stuff they plan to replace but is still in good working condition. They don't want to send the machine guns they are currently using.
Well considering NK is the country that builds them they probably came from NK or as I mentioned in the vid, possibly second hand from Iran.
Bren?
Are there any blingy chrome Type73s that NK gives to elite troops?
Oh man, I hope so.
Kalashnibren has arrived un the new update
Not an expert but i doubt theyre from the middle east, their conditionl ooks way too pristine to have come from there as id imagine they would show much heavier wear if from Iran, the wood looks new and the metal parts look unchipped and unworn, heck even the ammo cans look great
Crated weapons that were laying in some abu basement in a crate would look the same as factory new
@luciusartorius3437 plausible but with how much activity(fighting) goes on in those regions plus the environment just gives more credit that they're coming from NK, but at the end of the day nobody knows for sure as none of these countries keep accurate records anyways
Doesn’t it make sense for Koreans to have their own weapons with them!
this is the equivalent of taking a photo of US troops using goofy old guns from the back of their armory for a fun range day and then stating
"LOOK AT HOW DESPERATE THE US MUST BE!! THIS IS SOO EMBARRASSING"
this has been the level of journalism for the entirety of the conflict in Russia, and the biggest shame is that anyone with intellectual integrity now has to stop and question the entire authenticity of any information from events like this in the past. Its just such poor insight into the nuanced reality of whatever is going on
No, not really. It might be a 'here's this odd GPMG' that our allies are using. Which is why I actually haven't definitively said Russia are using them unlike some outlets.
@ if you "read the room" thats certainly the implication, or at least what everyone is taking away from this.
I guess you might have to accept that your audience is generally retarted then. No offense to you personally
@@TheArmourersBench yeah fair enough, the north Korean probably gave some type 73 as gift and the Russian share the image
I think the explanation that the North Korean troops came fully equipped, and are being re-equipped with Russian uniforms, documents, and equipment to maintain the fig leaf they are "Russian" troops.
Meanwhile, Russia *is* short on modern small arms, as has been well documented by *Russian* sources, with new drafts of conscripts and reservist callups being equipped with old, barely serviceable arms (like 1960s era and heavily rusted, AKMs rather than even first generation, Afghan War era AK74s or post-Soviet AK74M rifles. Also, logistics support to puppet troops in the Donbas has included Moisin-Nagants, DP LMGs, and Maxim MGs.
Thus, roughly a division's worth of lightly used, fully serviceable, ammunition compatible small arms of relatively recent vintage would be a logistical benefit not to be ignored. And issuing thrm out to unambiguously "European" Russian troops wouldnt endanger the deception plan of trying to hide where the North Korean troops are being used.
If photos of the North Korean pattern AK74 rifle with the unique helical magazine start to emerge in Ukraine or SW Russia adjacent to Ukraine, it would be a strong bit of supporting data for the, "Well, the NorK guns were just *sitting* there, so we issued them!" hypothesis.
I've also seen a picture (frame from drone footage) of a Nork who's wearing multicam and his plate carrier is a dark blue pixelated pattern that looks strikingly similar to the pattern that debuted in North Korea's 2020 parade which was worn by an element of the KPASOF. Unfortunately, the people who uploaded the parade decided to talk over it with their own speculation so I couldn't translate the transcript to determine exactly who they were.
Russia isn't short on small arms at all, if anything AK-12s are very slowly replacing AK-74s in service with new recruits
@@winterautumnfishing5215If that was true, they wouldn't have been issuing rusty AKMs from deep stores last year. As documented by Russian soldier's own social media postings.
@@geodkyt That was only one post tho, we never really saw much AKMs on the russian side in this war.
There is only one documented case of rusty AK in 2022 and likely to be fake and people already assume Russia use rusty weapons despite 99% of war footage shown Russia used more or less modern AK-74 or AK-12. And now people trying to made up another cope that Russia ran out of small arms only because of one image of Korean LMGs despite thousands of footage shown Russia used their own PK machine guns
Contrary to public mythos, the modern Russian iterations of Soviet weapons (AK-12, PKP, etc.) are actually quite expensive to produce today. Raw materials must be bought at market value, massive stamping assembly lines have been replaced by highly-expensive and complex individual machines (CNC machines, lathes, etc.), cheap communist labour is gone in favour of higher-qualified workers demanding market-equivalent wages to run these individual machines, and demand is low as more export customers crowd the global market with domestic production of similar classes of designs.
The Type 73s you see in Russia are built similar to past Soviet circumstances and are going to be adequate enough for sending troops off to meat grinder purposes.
Literally a propagandistic lies. Small arms are extremely cheap and I am very doubtful that Russia that could produce missiles, jets, warship cannot produce large numbers of firearms.
@@dauzlee2827 Missiles, jets, etc. have nothing to do with SALW. The comparison is being made between SALW like the Type 73 in the video vs. Russian equivalents. NK is cheaper by far.
By the way, Russia is also having trouble with missile, jet, and warship production. They already import Hwasongs and must salvage parts to keep aircraft flying. Oh, and where is the Kuznetsov carrier? I can't find it. Is it anywhere ready for deployment? Haven't seen the Moskva lately, either.
Mag makes sense if machinegunners have to go into CQB mode.
Good for patrolling too, keeps weight off the gun initially too I guess.
meh, the koreans(north one) dropping subpar loot
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This is some Warhammer 40k type looking weapon, now that notlrth Koreans are fighting for ruZZia you brits and Americans have no moral right to say that you are our allies, we see no american or britush troops here, only brave volunteers 🫡
Although the machine gun is surprisingly decent, it is still hilarious how far Russia keeps falling.
First artillery shells and missile, now firearms from North Korea…
Imagine one of the "strongest" militaries needing help from North Korea. 😂
Its a partnership like your "warm brothers" from nato assalience, its not a help, its traning ground for the koreans, hunting nato equiped ukrainians and mercs on russian territory, and gaining precious military experience
you dumbass.
Un the US machine gun prices are down.
B R E N S K Y
i bet these are iranian. given to north koreans as they didnt bring their own weaponry with them
cool! :)
I think Russians will use it as a hand MG, since their own RPK sucks and is basically an oversed AK.
RPK has been gradually phased out since the 2000s, everyone just uses PK's
@winterautumnfishing5215 I have seen interviews of Russian soldiers in Ukraine who criticized RPK, saying that they replaced it with PK as soon as they could. Since some soldiers were issued RPK, that means that there are not enough PKs, and I don't believe the situation got any better after Russian forces grew in numbers
news flash a bullet from a top feed magazine is still a bullet, also side note i find it funny how all the gung ho american iraq/afghan vets turned tail after they realised (how stupid can you be) that russia isnt the taliban.
ukraine gets mostly brand new weapons and equipment russia gets outdated weapons
lol
Ukraine is using plenty of old stuff too
Zed not zee mate
Yeah, I work with too many Americans to even notice these days. 🤷♂️
Equipment test in real war not shortage! Ukrainian soldiers will use an American old M/60 in a couple days!
I doubt it. They've been tested in conflict. They're not even a currently primary NK weapon system (they serve alongside the Type 82 PK). I think a shortage of GPMGs isn't outside the realms of possibility even if it's use for training units.
@@TheArmourersBench Who knows in war every weapon is a good weapon!?
Indeed. We'll know more when there's more imagery of them in use!
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Rubbish weapon.
Yet more media led propaganda.
None of these photos are from the media. They were shared on private Russian social media.
Or these could be of one of those Iranians shipments pirated by US and given to ukraine and then captured by Russians.
"pirated" is an interesting word choice... especially since they were being sent by Iran to actual pirates.
@@colbunkmust well yeah, but seizing other nations boats on high seas seems to be the stereotypical piratism. Also sending arms to Houthis (actual Yemen?), Syria, hamas or Hezbollah are all quite different things... and lets not forget that USA shipped Libyas weapons to AQ and ISIS to Iraq and Syria... world is not black and white.
@@thiscouldntblowmore Iran was not openly selling weapons to the internationally recognized Yemeni gov. in Aden. Iran is using disguised vessels to smuggle arms to the Houthis. What you refer to as "actual Yemen?" isn't a recognized state and has attacked and seized numerous commercial vessels most of which are completely neutral parties. There are international agreements(UNCLOS) defining piracy, and US forces, or any military for that matter, has internationally recognized legal right to prosecute pirates for their actions. If that involves intercepting and seizing their arms being smuggled to them, then that is not piracy and is an action supported by law. In fact, it's a law even ratified and signed by the Yemeni government.
Using the "world is not black and white" analogy here is an nothing but an empty platitude that doesn't stand when put into context.
Iran hasn't had these since the 80s. Their self-sufficiency in SALW production since the Iran-Iraq War has led them to create and standardize production in better designs and in larger numbers. Their Type 73s were probably given away to their group of choice decades ago.
No, the shipments provided to Ukraine from interdictions was mostly Iranian and Chinese small arms. Have a video on that too.