VPRO Vrije Geluiden. Danielle de Niese sings "Lascia ch'io pianga" from the opera "Rinaldo" by G.F. Handel. She is accompanied by Peter Lockwood at the paino.
Have just found this young lady she has such control and emotion and will like a good wine, mature with time. She does, however do more than justice to this wonderful aria
I just saw her recital at UC Berkeley this afternoon. Her voice is really phenomenal. I didn't hear any unusual vibrato, and I was sitting right in front. She seems much more at ease than she is in this clip. She really feels the emotion of her songs.
She sings so beautifully, and so emotionally, one gets lost in the song. She also looks stunning. She looks in good shape, has a beautiful face, and carries and moves herself with sophistication. The dress is lovely and has a hint of seductiveness with the one shoulder partly off. (This is a style for those who think her dress is "crooked") Will listen to this over and over again. I love it.
I was reading your comment and I must agree with you , she is a beautiful girl that happens to sing as well. Her voice is not properly placed and if she doesn ´t work on it , she might have troubles later on. Har det sa bra !
The good news is that her voice continues to improve. I find her an interesting artist and sometimes her singing is beautiful. I prefer when she sings p
Aha, fair enough lol, that changes things I saw that too, I think! Have you seen her in the BBC 'The History of British Music'? It is downloadable from the website. It's unbelievable :)
Okay, a bit of trickery on my part. It's actually this exact same performance to which I added strings, reverb and stereo ambience to see if being in a different setting altered your perception. ;-)
i agree with you but i downloaded a maria callas album and was surprised to hear her out of tune on some tracks. have you heard kenneth mckellar singing handel- amazing! ronnie
i feel as though she sings this song beautifully. I dont like all the ridicule about how shes dressed. These videos are here to critique then singing, and let people know your opinion on that. She sings this nicely, she understands what the words mean, and she uses that to put some emotion in, and i like that :)
She is very like Lesley Garrett was 10 years ago, in singing and in personality. Let's see if she is as versatile also. See "Lesley Garrett - Handel: Rejoice Greatly".
Dental T's and purer vowel sounds would be a plus... Also I can't even pay attention to her voice most of the time, I'm so distracted by the tension in her neck and all the extraneous body movement!!
Well I guess I should have put my comment where I meant it to be - after the one saying it was a horrible interpretation. The only objection I have to this is that it is slightly ponderous, otherwise she sings like an angel! I saw her on TV singing this with a Baroque ensemble, a little bit faster, and it was unbelievable.
Here's a short sample of a fairly well-known singer doing this. I'm curious what you think of this version. UA-cam's encoders do some odd things to the sound, it sounds like some kind of badly applied compression algorithm. The &fmt=18 at the end gives stereo audio. Obviously replace the (dot) with a . youtube(dot)com/watch?v=r_sCYsGRyQE&fmt=18
This piece was taken slower than I am used to, and sounds like a drag. If the tempo was brought up a little faster, she wouldn't have sounded so flat at times and her voice would've had more resinance. Just a little work can be done to improve her projection and vocal quality. She is definitely on her way, just working more at it will get her to perfection. And her facial expression made us feel her desire to be free and have peace. -Cristina
I invite anyone who thinks this is bad to youtube Karina Gauvin. That is what true baroque artistry sounds like. However I must say I think she is really good. Perhaps she needs to figure a few things out but she is not boring or in any way uninteresting.
bad tone production etc. that would be a valid criticism, but I don't believe anyone could make a valid claim for that here. Presumably she's studied with one or more teachers who know opera and has been achieving results that pleased them. Looking at her background it's clear she's not considered some lightweight amateur, she's certainly no pseudodiva like Charlotte Church, Hayley Westenra etc. I.e. at her level I would expect she has a solid grasp of how to approach an aria.
I first saw her in Charles hazelwood's doc about Handel. very beautiful then. this really is underwhelming. perhaps she really wasn't prepared for this outing or was I'll. not an opera aficionado so I can't really judge. who's the dude in the background?
"I do not proofread befor posting"--No, I meant myself, I spelled publicly wrong on my first post, put it out in a hurry. Part of the problem with your rationale is it assumes precise insight as to how the original performances were envisioned and executed. With no recordings it's all speculation. The evidence that does exist in the form of the earliest recordings of any music including opera reveal that common practice of even a century or so ago were very different than they are now.
really beautiful but my only problem is its way to slow its dragging and its losses quality there. Also if she relaxed her jaws more it would sound breathtaking by clenching the jaw its not as free as it could sound. However she has done this song better then anyone else i have heard.
alejandra379 - There must be an international law requiring at least one person to publically poo-poo a performance, no matter how great. Ah, I found the law. It states "Said poo-pooing must be stated in a way that is meant to demonstrate the grand and refined sensibilities of the poo-pooer, based on ethereal evidence that is in no way apparent to anyone else on the planet." Personally, I thinkyernutz.
Someone commented that Danielle may have been out of tune in this performance - she is very often out of key in her singing but not in this number. Someone else commented that she not a first rate soprano - I agree wholeheartedly. By the way, this is played and sung much too slowly.
Is that dress meant to fall off her shoulder? I've just seen her in same dress singing same aria on BBC3 UA-cam and it was falling off there! If not then it's a rather shabby attempt to sex up the presentation. I agree with the other comments here - I think there is too much emotion put into the aria rather than letting it speak for itself. I prefer Deborah York's interpretation - see verey strange production with David Daniels (who is fab as well).
Indeed 3.14 imay be seen as a dissonance on a strong beat or even a kind of appogiatura but I must still concur with flemingway: It really doesn't sound well, it's a coma (1/4 tone) that generates too much instability at a crucial moment (the end of the musical sentence). The singers of that time used the coma in trills at the end but never this bad.
Well for a young girl that is weeping whilst singing about her ill fate and her sadness and is contemplating suicide, I think one shouldn't rush the tempo. I think in fact this is tempo is adequate, and interpreted in the correct sad and musing mood. I have heard her sing this aria more times and this is not her best version of this, but I do love her voice. And yes, she will improve. And no, she isn't wearing a push-up bra. Just saying. :)
She has a lovely voice and is obviously feeling the text very much. But for some reason it's not "soaring" where it needs to. Also her phrasing is weird to me.
her phrasing is more or less attempting to recreate or at least resemble the breathing of a person who is crying, so while it's a little weird musically speaking it makes sense from the perspective of the character being portrayed in the opera.
I didn't hate this. I still don't think she belongs at the met. On broadway, in films perhaps, but I lament the young singers (and the older ones) who have to play second fiddle to De Niese
"And I think you are overreacting,"--and I didn't proofread my post before I posted it PUBLICLY. Grrrrr.... "aesthetics of...the baroque period...that stated that dramatic contrast should be the goal for melodrama..." If aesthetics were cut and dried, every performance and recording of a given work would sound identical which is far from true. I base my judgement on the quality of the performance. She does a superb job here. So there... ;-)
I honestly think that as the saying goes, if you do not have anything good to say do not say anything,people are so horrible,and what is more it is easy to criticize, but can these people who leave mindless and spiteful comments, can they sing a note? I liked what I heard well done.
Dalielle de Niese besitzt eine wunderbare Stimme. Prädestiniert - nicht nur - aber hauptsächlich für Händel. Die Stimme wird wunderbar geführt. Ausdrucksstark und einer guten Aussprache. Ihre ganze Erscheinung ist Sympathie pur. Sie gehört zu meinen Favoritinnen.
I do think she can be good for some funny stagings, but in a vocal or musical level... come on! I mean, this could be alright for a student, but I don't think it's something to be shown by a professional singer.
her voice is weird, in the sense that it seems to get such varied responses from people. I've never hear a performer with such a black and white division of people either loving or hating their voice.
Have just found this young lady she has such control and emotion and will like a good wine, mature with time. She does, however do more than justice to this wonderful aria
She delivered it as if she meant it. I believed her. The piano performance was a perfect complement. A beautiful rendition!
I just saw her recital at UC Berkeley this afternoon. Her voice is really phenomenal. I didn't hear any unusual vibrato, and I was sitting right in front. She seems much more at ease than she is in this clip. She really feels the emotion of her songs.
look at the train passing by behind her, as if inside the time stands still and outside life just goes on
Pure heartfelt beauty, I was feeling every note!
i think it is called acting. i am enchanted by her and it is not because she is beautiful - which she clearly is- but because she is so good
It really touched my heart! And that's the only criterium for music!
What can you say just beautiful
素晴らしいです。最高の"Lascia ch'io pianga"です。ピアノと駆け引き素晴らしい。
Love her face. . .
beautiful music !!
I saw that and thought it was wonderful as well. :)
wunderful and beautiful, great
I like the way this saraband REALLY comes accross dance-like. Very nice.
Excellent, the best sang by a female voice
merci beaucoup!!
Rich and Warm timbre! Beautiful voice! Fascinating performance!🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
I really LIKED it a lot!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🌹🌹🌹
DIVINE!!!
She sings so beautifully, and so emotionally, one gets lost in the song. She also looks stunning. She looks in good shape, has a beautiful face, and carries and moves herself with sophistication. The dress is lovely and has a hint of seductiveness with the one shoulder partly off. (This is a style for those who think her dress is "crooked")
Will listen to this over and over again. I love it.
Kittyququmber its more than a hint to me.
I was reading your comment and I must agree with you , she is a beautiful girl that happens to sing as well. Her voice is not properly placed and if she doesn ´t work on it , she might have troubles later on.
Har det sa bra !
el fantastica
estupenda!
I wish I could sing that beautifully :D
lots of room for improvement, but at least Ms. de Niese tried this difficult piece
The good news is that her voice continues to improve. I find her an interesting artist and sometimes her singing is beautiful. I prefer when she sings p
Bravo!!!!! ,,,,,,,,,,,
pretty her voice & the dress,
@elaine9010 I don't get that either, I'll sing the recit and put it online. It's a beautiful intro to the aria
delightful
Yes, I also got "Da tempeste" from the same program. I'll upload that too in a few days.
👏👏👏🤩🤩🤩
She is beautiful and she has a lovely voice :D I love the emotion she puts in. Keep up the amazing work Danielle!!!
Yes, it was that BBC series.
Very pleasant overall.
Can someone explain to me why no one sings the recitative of this song? I love it,but it is incomplete,like starting a story in the middle. Elaine
And you're forgetting a very crucial fact - she's an absolute babe.
;-)
Aha, fair enough lol, that changes things
I saw that too, I think! Have you seen her in the BBC 'The History of British Music'? It is downloadable from the website. It's unbelievable :)
Okay, a bit of trickery on my part. It's actually this exact same performance to which I added strings, reverb and stereo ambience to see if being in a different setting altered your perception.
;-)
i agree with you but i downloaded a maria callas album and was surprised to hear her out of tune on some tracks.
have you heard kenneth mckellar singing handel- amazing!
ronnie
I know many are complaining about Danielle's technique in this song, but what mostly bothers me is the use of a piano rather than a harpsichord.
i feel as though she sings this song beautifully.
I dont like all the ridicule about how shes dressed.
These videos are here to critique then singing, and let people know your opinion on that.
She sings this nicely, she understands what the words mean, and she uses that to put some emotion in, and i like that :)
She is very like Lesley Garrett was 10 years ago, in singing and in personality. Let's see if she is as versatile also. See "Lesley Garrett - Handel: Rejoice Greatly".
@saturn999999999 IMSLP has it in e-flat major
Leaves me feeling rather out of sorts !
Dental T's and purer vowel sounds would be a plus... Also I can't even pay attention to her voice most of the time, I'm so distracted by the tension in her neck and all the extraneous body movement!!
+Meghan McLean Yes, for someone who is supposed to be an A-level singer this is embarresing.
Well I guess I should have put my comment where I meant it to be - after the one saying it was a horrible interpretation. The only objection I have to this is that it is slightly ponderous, otherwise she sings like an angel! I saw her on TV singing this with a Baroque ensemble, a little bit faster, and it was unbelievable.
Here's a short sample of a fairly well-known singer doing this. I'm curious what you think of this version. UA-cam's encoders do some odd things to the sound, it sounds like some kind of badly applied compression algorithm. The &fmt=18 at the end gives stereo audio.
Obviously replace the (dot) with a .
youtube(dot)com/watch?v=r_sCYsGRyQE&fmt=18
hi thanks for replying about de niese - she is attractive tho
no comment on mr mckellar?
Who do you think it is singing?
@JavierMartinDuarte I agree completely! People are way too hard on her!
I think she was singing in Amsterdam :P
vocetta agra
kill me....this is hell......
Please listen to FLORENCE QUARTARARO sing CARE SELVE. THAT is SINGING
ahhhhh diphthongs....love her voice though...
:)
This piece was taken slower than I am used to, and sounds like a drag. If the tempo was brought up a little faster, she wouldn't have sounded so flat at times and her voice would've had more resinance.
Just a little work can be done to improve her projection and vocal quality. She is definitely on her way, just working more at it will get her to perfection.
And her facial expression made us feel her desire to be free and have peace.
-Cristina
I invite anyone who thinks this is bad to youtube Karina Gauvin. That is what true baroque artistry sounds like. However I must say I think she is really good. Perhaps she needs to figure a few things out but she is not boring or in any way uninteresting.
I assume by now you've listened to it. What did you think of it? Other than UA-cam's encoders doing odd things to the dynmic levels.
OK. Feeling better now?
Il trionfo dell'aria sul suono😑😶
bad tone production etc. that would be a valid criticism, but I don't believe anyone could make a valid claim for that here.
Presumably she's studied with one or more teachers who know opera and has been achieving results that pleased them. Looking at her background it's clear she's not considered some lightweight amateur, she's certainly no pseudodiva like Charlotte Church, Hayley Westenra etc. I.e. at her level I would expect she has a solid grasp of how to approach an aria.
intonation is normal
nice
I first saw her in Charles hazelwood's doc about Handel. very beautiful then. this really is underwhelming. perhaps she really wasn't prepared for this outing or was I'll. not an opera aficionado so I can't really judge. who's the dude in the background?
The dude in the background's my uncle Joe. He's always hanging around TV studios trying to pick up young talent.....
"I do not proofread befor posting"--No, I meant myself, I spelled publicly wrong on my first post, put it out in a hurry.
Part of the problem with your rationale is it assumes precise insight as to how the original performances were envisioned and executed. With no recordings it's all speculation. The evidence that does exist in the form of the earliest recordings of any music including opera reveal that common practice of even a century or so ago were very different than they are now.
Agreed, its like a no-talent art critic would would rather appraise a painting than sit back and absorb its beauty.
i think she would do well on Britains Got Talent,maybe better than Paul Potts.
@51m0n77 well, perhaps you would prefer "...not to my taste..."
well, she's pretty successful.
google "lascia ch'io pianga score"
really beautiful but my only problem is its way to slow its dragging and its losses quality there. Also if she relaxed her jaws more it would sound breathtaking by clenching the jaw its not as free as it could sound. However she has done this song better then anyone else i have heard.
just Perfect ...
Nothing special, but she looks great
alejandra379 - There must be an international law requiring at least one person to publically poo-poo a performance, no matter how great.
Ah, I found the law. It states "Said poo-pooing must be stated in a way that is meant to demonstrate the grand and refined sensibilities of the poo-pooer, based on ethereal evidence that is in no way apparent to anyone else on the planet."
Personally, I thinkyernutz.
Someone commented that Danielle may have been out of tune in this performance - she is very often out of key in her singing but not in this number. Someone else commented that she not a first rate soprano - I agree wholeheartedly.
By the way, this is played and sung much too slowly.
Almost any other version tops this!
I'm feeling a little underwhelmed......
Catherine Coates ..Good day. The rendition is quite good, a job well done I say!
Is that dress meant to fall off her shoulder? I've just seen her in same dress singing same aria on BBC3 UA-cam and it was falling off there! If not then it's a rather shabby attempt to sex up the presentation. I agree with the other comments here - I think there is too much emotion put into the aria rather than letting it speak for itself. I prefer Deborah York's interpretation - see verey strange production with David Daniels (who is fab as well).
Indeed 3.14 imay be seen as a dissonance on a strong beat or even a kind of appogiatura but I must still concur with flemingway: It really doesn't sound well, it's a coma (1/4 tone) that generates too much instability at a crucial moment (the end of the musical sentence). The singers of that time used the coma in trills at the end but never this bad.
Ha voluto caricare in maniera sbagliata di emotività il pezzo che, essendo semplice va eseguito tale!
It is taken a little slow - that's all.
Well for a young girl that is weeping whilst singing about her ill fate and her sadness and is contemplating suicide, I think one shouldn't rush the tempo. I think in fact this is tempo is adequate, and interpreted in the correct sad and musing mood. I have heard her sing this aria more times and this is not her best version of this, but I do love her voice. And yes, she will improve. And no, she isn't wearing a push-up bra. Just saying. :)
I like . Very good!
She has a lovely voice and is obviously feeling the text very much. But for some reason it's not "soaring" where it needs to. Also her phrasing is weird to me.
her phrasing is more or less attempting to recreate or at least resemble the breathing of a person who is crying, so while it's a little weird musically speaking it makes sense from the perspective of the character being portrayed in the opera.
I find this perfect but...I read the comments...and since I have been listening to Opera for a year I think I can't really say my opinion whatsoever.
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The emphasis is never on the voice--it's always on HER, on her face. Are these her "handlers'" decisions or is that her personality?
De Niesse as Good as always!!! Brava!
I would guess that you don't like her hair color either?
I didn't hate this. I still don't think she belongs at the met. On broadway, in films perhaps, but I lament the young singers (and the older ones) who have to play second fiddle to De Niese
any woman who can truly sing earns my respect...
my ears aren't!
"And I think you are overreacting,"--and I didn't proofread my post before I posted it PUBLICLY. Grrrrr....
"aesthetics of...the baroque period...that stated that dramatic contrast should be the goal for melodrama..."
If aesthetics were cut and dried, every performance and recording of a given work would sound identical which is far from true.
I base my judgement on the quality of the performance. She does a superb job here.
So there...
;-)
I honestly think that as the saying goes, if you do not have anything good to say do not say anything,people are so horrible,and what is more it is easy to criticize, but can these people who leave mindless and spiteful comments, can they sing a note? I liked what I heard well done.
Dalielle de Niese besitzt eine wunderbare Stimme. Prädestiniert - nicht nur - aber hauptsächlich für Händel. Die Stimme wird
wunderbar geführt. Ausdrucksstark und einer guten Aussprache. Ihre ganze Erscheinung ist Sympathie pur. Sie gehört zu meinen Favoritinnen.
Jealous? I think so.
I do think she can be good for some funny stagings, but in a vocal or musical level... come on! I mean, this could be alright for a student, but I don't think it's something to be shown by a professional singer.
that's it! Im going to go to the gym, straighten my hair, wear a pushup bra and become a famous opera singer.
An average performance at best - she looks physically great though :-)
her voice is weird, in the sense that it seems to get such varied responses from people. I've never hear a performer with such a black and white division of people either loving or hating their voice.