@@soulsreaper7145 Uh, kryptonian supremist with the intention of creating an absolute dictatorship last time I checked, who is fully willing to kill to get what he wants. I'd say there's a very real argument for saying he's evil. Not to mention I'm willing to bet you he's smart enough to figure out he's basically brainwashing Connor/using whatever was left over of his Cadmus programming, so, yeah taking advantage of the mentally vulnerable, even setting aside everything else that's pretty damn sketchy.
Technically,Zod’s not wrong.They’ve served their full sentences and have to be released.They can’t just leave them there forever since they haven’t done anything except what they got their punishment for
Well Aquaman's point wasn't a terrible one though. The heroes have a very limited understanding of what the house of Zod's crimes were, what type of people they were/are, and what their intentions are upon release. Having them be heard in a court is a good idea and *will* produce an outcome where they are let free from the Phantom Zone.
even if they do get out it's not like zod would be able to do much since Darkside and the light are in control in the present. I Assume in the future that did exist before it got changed Darkside and the plans of the light failed or something that allowed zod to almost take over
Exactly space is big and there are plenty of empty worlds why not set an agreement to set them free, find them a safe empty world with a yellow sun and send them there with the condition that they stay out of earth's solar system and live their newly free lives however they see fit
@@jordanwebster4170 you really think they’re gonna abide by that ? They literally hated the fact that their planet was making peace with other planets.. and I know for a fact they wouldn’t be able to resist staying to get powers like superman
@@calcitegem6204 they don't have to make peace its just an agreement to fuck off and stay away, not to mention the amount of anti kryptonian tech batman has could keep them in check or just have a green lantern imagine some kryptonite, and I said send them somewhere with a yellow sun and they can build whatever super society they want a new krypton or planet zod
Aquaman said he'd be willing to give a fair trial to each of them to help them out, just not outside the Phantom Zone, and he's right. Imagine one of them being like Ted Bundy or Anthony Sowell and just releasing one of them solely because they were in there for a long time.
@@painvillegaming4119 you are saying that. The only information that they have on a timeline is Super Boy and Zod’s kid. However, there is no way to specifically know especially under that tense situation what crimes were committed by house Zod or their true sentence A probationary hearing within the zone is the only legal way of conducting release. And as a bargaining chip to allow super boy to remain within the zone during the proceeding. Otherwise, you are risking the release of rapists, murderers, vile individual on the premise “hey, my sentence was only ten years and I have no proof of that I just littered. You can trust me.”
I really like all the little details from how the Zod's trained their will to be an advantage in the phantom zone and Aqualad instantly adapting to everything so quickly, showing how much he's grown into the leader role.
I have to shake my head at how fast Superboys mind just stopped messing with reality and started listening to zod. Like how does your mind have no endurance after all that mind play with Megan.
Its the Phantom Zone too. Who knows what kind of effect that can have on one's mind who has never been there before, especially for long periods. Plus, Superboy's mind is already a bit of a mess, considering how he was created. The poor guy. Kaldur would have been better off saying "Remember M'Gann". That might have helped.
I understand that Zod is technically right, but their attack on the team was a dumb and inappropriate move for their case lol. Definitely let them know that they were not worth releasing
@@christopherkidwell9817 I'd say their were mistakes on both sides, though Zod's side at the very least has the excuse of mental strain from decades in the Zone, the team definitely should have handles themselves better, but admittedly they were probably desperate to get Connor back. This is one of the weaknesses of the team, they aren't a team, they're are a family, especially the original group, and they can get emotional about things when other members are concerned.
@@somerandomschmuck2547 In this situation, it is kind of hard to make a judgement call. They know nothing about Zod or if he is telling the truth. Plus Zod was right, they were scared about what a group of Kryptonian criminals could do if they were fully powered up. It was not the ethical call, it was the rational call.
Shoot. Besides some of the other villains (Lex Luthor, Vandal Savage for example), the way they made Zod in this show is downright scary. When he talks, you're just glued in on his words. He calculating and spooky. Love it.
@@Drawing4Justice I really don't see the justice league leaving him in the phantom zone after he has already done his time. I think they would have just dropped him off on a red sun planet.
Zatanna doesn’t need to speak to cast magic, and Kryptonians are particularly weak to magic; I thought it was even more effective than kryptonite. I’m pretty sure Z could’ve taken all of them herself.
kryptoniams are not weak to magic, but they are vulnerable to magic. Depending on the level of magic it would be like a using a push pin or a gun on a regular human being. Here for Zatanna using her magic in this context, against powerless Kryptonians would essentially be no different than some random thugs on the street.
Has it ever been shown in this show that Zatanna can cast spells without saying anything? People often mix up the established rules for the YJ universe with other comic incarnations. Remember, Superboy can't even fly unlike in the comics, and even from the first season they've shown that Zatanna can't cast spells when she's gagged.
@@darylmcmexican539 He looked like he was flying when he grabbed Zod, it looked like he was able to pull him back a bit when the projector was retrieving Zod.
Can't believe I'm saying this, Zod was 100% right here. They've more than done their time. The team has every reason to fear their potential power but they should've been released.
Except the team are not saying they will never be released just not now. How do the team know they have actually served their sentence for example? Also where will they go when they are let out?
Except Aquaman straight up offered him to release them from Phantom Zone. Zod wasn't asking to be released from the zone. He was asking for a prison break. So no, he wasn't right. You don't release criminals just because they ask you. You review their case first.
You mean release a bunch of psychotic conquerors without any guarantee that they would leave others in peace? Only to have them create trouble again and again until the line is crossed?
@@TheNemesis432 No matter how you look at it, they served their sentence. And you must have watched something different than the rest of us because he very much asked for release.
@@anjaneyasreetrout2444 Yes. One, and most important, their sentence was served. Two, they have not REAL idea who they are. They should've released them.
Easy solution: Have one of the team volunteer to stay in the zone while they bring SB and Zod outside on the pretense that they will arrange a trial. That way they have a little bit of leeway while they arrange the litigation for Kryptonian law.
what trial??? he was already tried on his own planet and got a sentence for 10 years, how can u say that after being in a hell like that u think they deserve more prison?
@@soulsreaper7145 I'd argue there'd have to be some work before they're set free, for one thing, militant group of beings who become gods as long as they get the right vintage of vitamin D, letting that out in the universe at this point (given what we know of the Reach and Apocolypse's shenanigans) could be like adding a match to gasoline. Secondly, where are they supposed to go exactly? Krypton's gone, we have no idea what's going on with the Daxomites at this point in the timeline, and it's not like they could just drop them on an uninhabited planet with no infostructure, if they have no powers that might be a death sentence, but giving them a planet with a yellow sun could be disastrous (also that's not touching the psychological side effects of going from decades in the zone to the inevitable sensory overload getting their powers would cause), but who's going to pay for all that and help build it, the New Gods? Earth? The Lanterns? And something tells me most interstellar civilizations aren't going to want to accept a bunch of refugees who are also ex-cons and also kinda a cult onto their planets, so trying to integrate them with an existing population would be difficult. We don't have exact numbers but this could be pretty complicated depending on how big the "House of Zod" actually is.
@@soulsreaper7145 cause it's clear zod is still a huge threat to society, i mean looked what happened once freed they tried to do the same thing but on a larger scale.
on that point, i agree, they should be let out of the phantom zone and locked down in the real universe aways from any yellow sun. the idea of having a civilisation of Superman around is already unconfortable but imagine if that civilisation was made from the worse old Krypton has to offer?
@@efaristi9737 was he really the worst?? i mean hes nothing more then the miltary might of the kyptonians, also what about that city from kyptonian that superman has in his layer that he stole from brainiack, there all living under a yellow sun and i dont see any invasion attempts coming from the minature city
@@stevenkurtz2730 basically she got decked really easily and even after aquaman said to use hand to hand combat everyone was able to hit their opponent at least once to gain an upper hand except for rocket.
@@anthonyspencer975 well that's because she sucks at hand to hand; everyone else there is pretty good at it accept for Zatana. 9/10 she's floating using a bubble so what can you expect. Artemis was trained by the shadows and sportsmaster, Kal'dur was trained by Aquaman and Nightwing is well, Nightwing. The odds were pretty stacked against her from the jump
I know Zod was a bad guy, but I think they could of talked to Zod more about letting him out peacefully. I mean if they make Zod promise to work with them and not cause chaos, I think he would upheld his promise, at least for a while.
I'd have totally negotiated with Zod: "You want your freedom, we want our friend... As a true show of good faith, we'll grant you a hospitable planet if you promise not to harm our own."
@@TheRealLastJedi721 yeah, one could try stroking his ego and then threaten him with the phantom zone if he acts out... Like "General, you're incredibly strong under a yellow sun but you have no idea how many weaknesses kriptonians have..." (Magic, many kinds of kriptonite, and red sun generators just to name a few)
I wonder what would happen if Zatanna used Khalid's spell for Child. The one that rendered her immobile because all her internal systems were separated.
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This is the last season ? That’s very fucked up and stupid they still have more stories to go into ….red hood, Damian, walley…shit we didnt even get doomsday…they should at least make a season 5 too many characters too many unfinished stories to cut it now…I think we all need to email them
OK somebody needs to teach rocket how to fight like seriously also y didn't she just fly she couldve done something but instead she got ragdolled around the place
Funny part is how fucken evil he just comes off like damn zod calling him bait …. Demanding they take you home… and threw the extra sinister charisma in there it’s like you don’t wanna be free
Very bold choice for Zod to just assume "I bet more random people are going to come for him. let's set a trap for these next visitors despite never knowing when or where they might appear."
Something I didn’t understand about phantom zone is characters and team are communicating mentally without Megan and I don’t recall any characters having that ability
Not necessarily. Records of him and other Kryptonian history usually are found in the Fortress of Solitude. Usually, but this is a different show and time.
Zod and his minions could be contained in planet with red sun while they prepare the probation court. But it will run the risk of Lor Zod trying to break free them from the jail
But being under a red sun wouldnt make a difference to their lives as being human so if they did try to leave it would've definetly proved Zods evil. Thus the ones that stayed and the ones that went with him would show who deserves to go back into the phantom zone.
Creator Greg Weissman has stated that he has plans to make season 5 but requested for fans to continue binge watch the series so that HBO gives the green light for production
People saying Zatanna was nerfed at this point in the season completely forget this moment where it’s explained why and shown that her magic is mostly useless due to the nature of the Phantom Zone
*SPOILERS* So in the final episode, Vandal Savage has captured Zod and his whole crew on Warworld. Probably he would use their DNA to create clones which serve under his command. The wife of Zod is free and pregnant on another planet and she is superpowered villain. Probably she will side with Darkseid as Vandal Savage has his husband captured. The Young Justice universe is so dense and filled with countless possibilities. I wish they did such an amazing story in the DCEU.
The phantom zone was Kryptons greatest mind fuck for criminals to basically go insane and to be incarcerated Conner was there for months and since he is a clone it only makes sense he forget his memories and his original weapon programming kick in
2:41 Me: Even IF we release you and your sinister kin, you would pull that trickery stunt again, and again, and again, and AGAIN until the line has been crossed.
Zod was not wrong. They served their sentence and should be released. But the issue was the fact that Zod's intention was to conquer. Releasing them near a yellow sun was going destroy earth if they were not contained. That's why much later on in the episode the suggestion was releasing them near a red sun so they don't go wild is for the best. I'm pretty sure they could have came to a compromise of negotiating but Zod got very impatient knowing he is willing to take any oppurunity to get his people out of the Phantom Zone.
Mf we don't fear your power under the yellow sun. We fear how you are going to USE that power. You JUST said "The House of Zod doesn't play. The House of Zod conquers!" lol
So, most stories I've read has said that Zod's family have served their sentences too long. Most reason is because no one could get them out after krypton exploded. I know who they are, but I'm kinda on the side of letting them go.
@@siyasithole7995 literally the whole fight they just kept using their powers which doesn't work, or throwing something at them which doesn't work lmao 😂
Sneaking into an interdimensional prison meant for notorious kryptonian war criminals without considerable backup... a cunning strategy!!! Wait, not cunning... what's the opposite of that?..
Superboy could’ve totally had played this in his team favor without the fighting. Agree to sent them free showing Zod point about the House of El and the High Counsel has changed. Then they would do a trail of their sentences
I was honestly just so glad he wasn’t dead- I mean after Wally’s death I also stopped watching, but just seeing Connor’s death I set the show aside. Now im glad I got back into it
Not that smart to forget these arent just random earth criminals. These are kryptonian soldier's, which means they're still stronger then humans and they've also been trained.
5 vs 5 since Zod and his wife didn't fight. I can see Zatanna and Rocket losing in hand-to-hand combat, since they don't really have training. You could argue that Zatanna shouldn't have lost because the Kryptonians don't have their powers, but it looks like Kaldur's advice came in too late and she was taken out before she could use her magic again. Kaldur and Artemis are both skilled martial artists, but I wouldn't classify them as top tier. They're nowhere near Deathstroke/Lady Shiva level. Zod's soldiers are much older and probably had more years of experience. Zod's soldiers were also highly motivated to win to escape. Idk, could go either way depending on the argument presented, but I'll accept the loss as reasonable. Now Nightwing on the other hand, shouldn't have lost against these guys in hand-to-hand combat. Could inexperience in the zone really play that much of a factor in the fight? I understand the team losing, but they shouldn't have gotten their butts handed to them that easily.
@@JKtheAdevnturer if you remember the early episode of the phantom zone, the wally ghost that superboy saw was in the same color scheme as superboy, he wasn't animated in colors like the hallucinations that superboy kept having. That's a big detail to look over
@@siyasithole7995 if there's one thing l. Know l learn with young justice, every detail count, the wally west "ghost" was animated the same way as conner and the other Kryptonian
The smarter option might have been to give Zod what he wanted. Earth courts would have no right to judge Kryptonian sentences that have already been served overtime. And if Zod did become a threat, the League would have a better chance of dealing with the Kryptonians on Earth than in the Phantom Zone, where Zod has the home advantage. The team just turned a potential enemy into a decided one.
@@theyounggodlobo you're right not all parts of the future are certain but in this universe zod will always be evil, and his son will make sure of that
Seeing Connor reluctantly fight his friends in the scene feels very reminiscent to that Teen Titans episode where Robin was Slade's Apprentice
Yeah that's true
amazing show
or Tera
although zods not really evil he just had a diffrent way of doin things, no diffrent then the house of L
@@soulsreaper7145 Uh, kryptonian supremist with the intention of creating an absolute dictatorship last time I checked, who is fully willing to kill to get what he wants. I'd say there's a very real argument for saying he's evil. Not to mention I'm willing to bet you he's smart enough to figure out he's basically brainwashing Connor/using whatever was left over of his Cadmus programming, so, yeah taking advantage of the mentally vulnerable, even setting aside everything else that's pretty damn sketchy.
Kaldur: Everyone, use your training.
Rocket: What training?
😂
So trueeee😂😂
Like y they have to do her dirty like that
@@syukonanyinza7044 Does Rocket even know martial arts?
@@IGamingStation I’m pretty sure she knows a little bit, but no where near Nightwing and Batman level
@@IGamingStation she probably trained with Dinah during her time on the covert ops
Technically,Zod’s not wrong.They’ve served their full sentences and have to be released.They can’t just leave them there forever since they haven’t done anything except what they got their punishment for
Well Aquaman's point wasn't a terrible one though. The heroes have a very limited understanding of what the house of Zod's crimes were, what type of people they were/are, and what their intentions are upon release. Having them be heard in a court is a good idea and *will* produce an outcome where they are let free from the Phantom Zone.
even if they do get out it's not like zod would be able to do much since Darkside and the light are in control in the present. I Assume in the future that did exist before it got changed Darkside and the plans of the light failed or something that allowed zod to almost take over
Exactly space is big and there are plenty of empty worlds why not set an agreement to set them free, find them a safe empty world with a yellow sun and send them there with the condition that they stay out of earth's solar system and live their newly free lives however they see fit
@@jordanwebster4170 you really think they’re gonna abide by that ? They literally hated the fact that their planet was making peace with other planets.. and I know for a fact they wouldn’t be able to resist staying to get powers like superman
@@calcitegem6204 they don't have to make peace its just an agreement to fuck off and stay away, not to mention the amount of anti kryptonian tech batman has could keep them in check or just have a green lantern imagine some kryptonite, and I said send them somewhere with a yellow sun and they can build whatever super society they want a new krypton or planet zod
This must be a blast from the past for kulder and Dick considering how they first met Conner and this situation being quite similar
The flashback was so nice.
Eeyup.
Zod was being quite reasonable, he was more mad they thought they could outwit him than anything. I like Zod, hope he sticks around
Good thing is plan 100% involved on a brainwashed superboy from Lex.
Not at all reasonable. There is no proof that they “served” their sentences beyond his word alone. The reasonable one was aqua man.
Aquaman said he'd be willing to give a fair trial to each of them to help them out, just not outside the Phantom Zone, and he's right. Imagine one of them being like Ted Bundy or Anthony Sowell and just releasing one of them solely because they were in there for a long time.
@@_JesusChrist. am gonna go ahead and say zod was in the phantom zone for over 50 years now probably more thanks to the zone
@@painvillegaming4119 you are saying that. The only information that they have on a timeline is Super Boy and Zod’s kid.
However, there is no way to specifically know especially under that tense situation what crimes were committed by house Zod or their true sentence
A probationary hearing within the zone is the only legal way of conducting release. And as a bargaining chip to allow super boy to remain within the zone during the proceeding.
Otherwise, you are risking the release of rapists, murderers, vile individual on the premise “hey, my sentence was only ten years and I have no proof of that I just littered. You can trust me.”
I really like all the little details from how the Zod's trained their will to be an advantage in the phantom zone and Aqualad instantly adapting to everything so quickly, showing how much he's grown into the leader role.
I have to shake my head at how fast Superboys mind just stopped messing with reality and started listening to zod. Like how does your mind have no endurance after all that mind play with Megan.
Connor has been in the zone for months. I’m pretty sure it would be different if he ran into Zod maybe after a few weeks.
Pretty sure months
Its the Phantom Zone too. Who knows what kind of effect that can have on one's mind who has never been there before, especially for long periods. Plus, Superboy's mind is already a bit of a mess, considering how he was created. The poor guy. Kaldur would have been better off saying "Remember M'Gann". That might have helped.
Plus I think he got hurt when the bomb exploded.
Some people said he got reset to factory settings which was to obey commands he was given
I understand that Zod is technically right, but their attack on the team was a dumb and inappropriate move for their case lol. Definitely let them know that they were not worth releasing
Wrong... they were going to leave them in the Phantom Zone and merrily dance out.
The bad acts were from 'the Team' here.
@@christopherkidwell9817 I'd say their were mistakes on both sides, though Zod's side at the very least has the excuse of mental strain from decades in the Zone, the team definitely should have handles themselves better, but admittedly they were probably desperate to get Connor back. This is one of the weaknesses of the team, they aren't a team, they're are a family, especially the original group, and they can get emotional about things when other members are concerned.
His plan was to just have them show him the way out. He did not know because of Zatana, they could escape easily.
@@somerandomschmuck2547 In this situation, it is kind of hard to make a judgement call. They know nothing about Zod or if he is telling the truth. Plus Zod was right, they were scared about what a group of Kryptonian criminals could do if they were fully powered up. It was not the ethical call, it was the rational call.
@@christopherkidwell9817 🤣🤣bro said merrily dance out lol...Its facts aqualad talked to the team like he made up his mind already
Shoot. Besides some of the other villains (Lex Luthor, Vandal Savage for example), the way they made Zod in this show is downright scary. When he talks, you're just glued in on his words. He calculating and spooky. Love it.
I just realized if zod hadn't attacked them they would have actually freed him. In fact we already know they did in the future.
They didn’t. It was the union of planets who did it.
@@Drawing4Justice doesn't matter the group. The end choice would have still been the same.
@@rasheedqe Not really. There is a difference of a thousand years
@@Drawing4Justice I really don't see the justice league leaving him in the phantom zone after he has already done his time. I think they would have just dropped him off on a red sun planet.
@@rasheedqe well if he got released a 1000 year after the league existence the. They definitely did
Zatanna doesn’t need to speak to cast magic, and Kryptonians are particularly weak to magic; I thought it was even more effective than kryptonite. I’m pretty sure Z could’ve taken all of them herself.
They always did her dirty
kryptoniams are not weak to magic, but they are vulnerable to magic. Depending on the level of magic it would be like a using a push pin or a gun on a regular human being.
Here for Zatanna using her magic in this context, against powerless Kryptonians would essentially be no different than some random thugs on the street.
Has it ever been shown in this show that Zatanna can cast spells without saying anything? People often mix up the established rules for the YJ universe with other comic incarnations. Remember, Superboy can't even fly unlike in the comics, and even from the first season they've shown that Zatanna can't cast spells when she's gagged.
@@darylmcmexican539 just like the lack of Speed Force.
@@darylmcmexican539 He looked like he was flying when he grabbed Zod, it looked like he was able to pull him back a bit when the projector was retrieving Zod.
You know… with the properties of the Phantom Zone… the team should be glad they can’t feel the beat down they are getting.
they will after they leave the zone i think?
I mean Zod and his goons don’t have powers yet
I feel like they have experienced worse.
Can't believe I'm saying this, Zod was 100% right here. They've more than done their time. The team has every reason to fear their potential power but they should've been released.
Except the team are not saying they will never be released just not now. How do the team know they have actually served their sentence for example? Also where will they go when they are let out?
Except Aquaman straight up offered him to release them from Phantom Zone. Zod wasn't asking to be released from the zone. He was asking for a prison break. So no, he wasn't right. You don't release criminals just because they ask you. You review their case first.
You mean release a bunch of psychotic conquerors without any guarantee that they would leave others in peace?
Only to have them create trouble again and again until the line is crossed?
@@TheNemesis432 No matter how you look at it, they served their sentence. And you must have watched something different than the rest of us because he very much asked for release.
@@anjaneyasreetrout2444 Yes. One, and most important, their sentence was served. Two, they have not REAL idea who they are. They should've released them.
Rocket got messed up so badly😭
I know. They literally had to double team up on her. Bastiches.
Easy solution:
Have one of the team volunteer to stay in the zone while they bring SB and Zod outside on the pretense that they will arrange a trial.
That way they have a little bit of leeway while they arrange the litigation for Kryptonian law.
what trial??? he was already tried on his own planet and got a sentence for 10 years, how can u say that after being in a hell like that u think they deserve more prison?
@@soulsreaper7145 I'd argue there'd have to be some work before they're set free, for one thing, militant group of beings who become gods as long as they get the right vintage of vitamin D, letting that out in the universe at this point (given what we know of the Reach and Apocolypse's shenanigans) could be like adding a match to gasoline. Secondly, where are they supposed to go exactly? Krypton's gone, we have no idea what's going on with the Daxomites at this point in the timeline, and it's not like they could just drop them on an uninhabited planet with no infostructure, if they have no powers that might be a death sentence, but giving them a planet with a yellow sun could be disastrous (also that's not touching the psychological side effects of going from decades in the zone to the inevitable sensory overload getting their powers would cause), but who's going to pay for all that and help build it, the New Gods? Earth? The Lanterns? And something tells me most interstellar civilizations aren't going to want to accept a bunch of refugees who are also ex-cons and also kinda a cult onto their planets, so trying to integrate them with an existing population would be difficult. We don't have exact numbers but this could be pretty complicated depending on how big the "House of Zod" actually is.
@@soulsreaper7145 cause it's clear zod is still a huge threat to society, i mean looked what happened once freed they tried to do the same thing but on a larger scale.
@@Randomlyrandomnsstoo bad so sad wimp
Honestly, ethically they should release the kryptonians. They can’t just leave them in the Zone forever.
They should use yellow kryptonite to permanently depower them if that exists in their universe
@@John-zl8qx Gold Kryptonite is the one you're looking for.
They tried lol
on that point, i agree, they should be let out of the phantom zone and locked down in the real universe aways from any yellow sun. the idea of having a civilisation of Superman around is already unconfortable but imagine if that civilisation was made from the worse old Krypton has to offer?
@@efaristi9737 was he really the worst?? i mean hes nothing more then the miltary might of the kyptonians, also what about that city from kyptonian that superman has in his layer that he stole from brainiack, there all living under a yellow sun and i dont see any invasion attempts coming from the minature city
They did rocket so dirty in this fight
Can they even use powers
@@stevenkurtz2730 basically she got decked really easily and even after aquaman said to use hand to hand combat everyone was able to hit their opponent at least once to gain an upper hand except for rocket.
@@gogetathestrongestfusion yes the team powers worked in the phantom zone but was pretty useless
@@anthonyspencer975 well that's because she sucks at hand to hand; everyone else there is pretty good at it accept for Zatana. 9/10 she's floating using a bubble so what can you expect. Artemis was trained by the shadows and sportsmaster, Kal'dur was trained by Aquaman and Nightwing is well, Nightwing. The odds were pretty stacked against her from the jump
@@bigbiafra5288 I know that but i just expect her to be able to hit her opponent back at least once 😭😭
Always sad when one of you're close friends forget who you are but he'll remember M'Gann will help.
Kinda annoyed they didn't just pitch hwr name to him right away. Like that would be the most effective
@@elski5958 IKR.
""Your" actually, but yes. Feeling bad for Superboy. The guy has been through a lot in this series.
@@b.y.o.p.9035 Yes he sure has.
@@shadowspidey7327 If they can finish up this story, he will need a break afterwards.
"Whom do you serve, Superboy?!"
"Saruman!"
0:21 Smart, keeping in mind the enemy has the home field advantage
This gave serious OG young justice fight scenes and I love it !!!!! Aqualad giving orders 🥰🥰👏👏👏🏾
I am glad I wasn’t the only one freaking out!
@@YJSBMMAMRA yeah. Me too.
Yeah!
Aqualad was such a great leader of the team so glad to get to see a glimpse of that again
I know Zod was a bad guy, but I think they could of talked to Zod more about letting him out peacefully. I mean if they make Zod promise to work with them and not cause chaos, I think he would upheld his promise, at least for a while.
All they had to say was "play nice, and we won't drop our entire League on your Kryptonian backsides".
I'd have totally negotiated with Zod: "You want your freedom, we want our friend... As a true show of good faith, we'll grant you a hospitable planet if you promise not to harm our own."
It sounds good in theory 😂and tbh they served their sentence but once these dudes get a taste of the sun they taking over like let’s just be real here
@@TheRealLastJedi721 yeah, one could try stroking his ego and then threaten him with the phantom zone if he acts out... Like "General, you're incredibly strong under a yellow sun but you have no idea how many weaknesses kriptonians have..." (Magic, many kinds of kriptonite, and red sun generators just to name a few)
I wonder what would happen if Zatanna used Khalid's spell for Child. The one that rendered her immobile because all her internal systems were separated.
Wouldn't work if they were not solid.
That’s what happens when you keep secrets…I knew this rescue was gonna fail
Major discovery: each first letter episode’s titles form: INVITATION TO KNEEL BEFORE ZOD
Now we know each future letter of the lasts titles episodes: O and D
Inhospitable
Needful
Volatile
Involuntary"
Tale ….
Artemis..
The Lady…..
I Know….
Odnu
Nomed...
Teg ...
Og ….
Kaerb ...
Nautical
Ebb ….
Emergency ...
Leviathan ….
Beyond ….
Encounter ….
Forbidden ….
Odyssey ...
Rescue ….
Ego ….
Zenith …..
Sorry tô break tô you but the fans found out during the zananta arc
Blimey, that's clever
This is the last season ? That’s very fucked up and stupid they still have more stories to go into ….red hood, Damian, walley…shit we didnt even get doomsday…they should at least make a season 5 too many characters too many unfinished stories to cut it now…I think we all need to email them
For real I wanted to see an episode of the supersons after a timeskip
Wally is dead
They gotta make like 10 seasons I love all these stories
@Slingshot proof ?
@@pn2294 I believe that but this is DC he’s somewhere
When you realize your generation writing this Zod said they tryna play us lmao 🤣
In actuality his words were "they're trying to play us". Get that "tryna" out of here. 😄
Wow aquaman... aqualad.. whatever he goes by nowadays still has it when it come to strategies and leading.
OK somebody needs to teach rocket how to fight like seriously also y didn't she just fly she couldve done something but instead she got ragdolled around the place
Fly to where? And Kryptonians are intangible and can jump really high if they will it too
Can't teach everyone to fight. Some people just don't have it.
I love how theyre so used to M'ganns telepathic link that they didnt even think it out if the ordinary that they could do it without her there
Gotta admit they look Zoned
So Zatannas magic works in the Phantom Zone, good to know.
The phantom zone is real, magic affects reality.
Funny part is how fucken evil he just comes off like damn zod calling him bait …. Demanding they take you home… and threw the extra sinister charisma in there it’s like you don’t wanna be free
Very bold choice for Zod to just assume "I bet more random people are going to come for him. let's set a trap for these next visitors despite never knowing when or where they might appear."
Its not like they have anything other to do in the zone.
They do not fear Zod's power, only his intentions and what he would do once he got that power back.
If only M'gann was here. Imagine how heart broken she would've been
Something I didn’t understand about phantom zone is characters and team are communicating mentally without Megan and I don’t recall any characters having that ability
It’s something that only happens in the zone
@@Lifeofalexp1 interesting how is that possible tho I wish it was brought up at least
Wait, how did the team know about Zod. All records of Krypton would have been lost with its destruction. Only the new gods would know about him.
Metron and Tomar Re briefed Rocket about Zod who then relayed the info to Nightwing n team
Klarion also mentioned it.
Not necessarily. Records of him and other Kryptonian history usually are found in the Fortress of Solitude. Usually, but this is a different show and time.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t remember there ever being any black kryptonians. Like I don’t even know how that works evolution wise.
They needed to bring black canary along to negotiations.
Is no one noticing the house of El logo on the first kryptonian in the first five seconds?!?
Is there an animation error? Why do they not have the belts rocket gave them anymore?
With how hard the team is going at first, I can't help but feel they're using Connor as a baseline.
Zod and his minions could be contained in planet with red sun while they prepare the probation court. But it will run the risk of Lor Zod trying to break free them from the jail
Lor Zod has commited MULTIPLE crimes including murdering a Green Lantern, I wouldn't be surprised if he's depowered the sent into the Phantom Zone
But being under a red sun wouldnt make a difference to their lives as being human so if they did try to leave it would've definetly proved Zods evil. Thus the ones that stayed and the ones that went with him would show who deserves to go back into the phantom zone.
Is YJ going to get renewed for a season 5? Please can someone tell me?
It's still unconfirmed if the show gets enough streams and attention it will be renewed so make sure to spread the word
Creator Greg Weissman has stated that he has plans to make season 5 but requested for fans to continue binge watch the series so that HBO gives the green light for production
I wonder if they'd have accepted the offer if they said "we'll let you out to a red sun planet, where we can conduct the trial, is that acceptable?"
The phantom zone would be a perfect place to lock Doomsday away. Just saying…
That where he got sent in the jl/jlu and we also saw him trapped there in the legion of superheroes animated show
They did do that, and then doomsday punched his way out of the dimension. With a little help mind you but still.
That's some dbz Majin buu feat there. Whose stronger, Majin buu or doomsday? Can doomsday be immune to Majin buus assimilation trick?
@@Kopie0830 not this vs discussion again
@@Kopie0830 Depends on which version you are talking about.
People saying Zatanna was nerfed at this point in the season completely forget this moment where it’s explained why and shown that her magic is mostly useless due to the nature of the Phantom Zone
*SPOILERS*
So in the final episode, Vandal Savage has captured Zod and his whole crew on Warworld. Probably he would use their DNA to create clones which serve under his command.
The wife of Zod is free and pregnant on another planet and she is superpowered villain. Probably she will side with Darkseid as Vandal Savage has his husband captured. The Young Justice universe is so dense and filled with countless possibilities. I wish they did such an amazing story in the DCEU.
The phantom zone was Kryptons greatest mind fuck for criminals to basically go insane and to be incarcerated Conner was there for months and since he is a clone it only makes sense he forget his memories and his original weapon programming kick in
2:41
Me: Even IF we release you and your sinister kin, you would pull that trickery stunt again, and again, and again, and AGAIN until the line has been crossed.
Zod was not wrong. They served their sentence and should be released. But the issue was the fact that Zod's intention was to conquer. Releasing them near a yellow sun was going destroy earth if they were not contained. That's why much later on in the episode the suggestion was releasing them near a red sun so they don't go wild is for the best. I'm pretty sure they could have came to a compromise of negotiating but Zod got very impatient knowing he is willing to take any oppurunity to get his people out of the Phantom Zone.
Anybody else notice that one random Kryptonian with the El sigil?
0:04 that one looks like he is a former member of the House of El!!!
3:43 -4:24 rocket woke up to a two piece combo with some NyQuil on the side
Man rocket got know of that Batman/black carny training
How is the Team able to mentally communicate with each other without M’gann? Through Zatanna?
If your will is strong enough you dont need to use your mouth to speak in the phantom zone. I think zod did that to his wife a few episodes ago.
They are used to telepathic communication so it probably came naturally. Superboy can’t because his “programming” kicked in.
2:03 The Aftermath of the Zone-Sickness is playing Mind Tricks on him, making him Think he killed Superman, obviously.
Not Kaldur pulling a Mufasa 🤣
Zod just became the rated R super star edge
Comments: Zod is right.
Me: Zod is evil.
I am so happy superboy alive
Mf we don't fear your power under the yellow sun. We fear how you are going to USE that power. You JUST said "The House of Zod doesn't play. The House of Zod conquers!" lol
So, most stories I've read has said that Zod's family have served their sentences too long. Most reason is because no one could get them out after krypton exploded. I know who they are, but I'm kinda on the side of letting them go.
Kaldur was so hurt by Conner siding with Zod
apparently nightwing is not as smart as i thought
Why do you say that?
@@siyasithole7995 literally the whole fight they just kept using their powers which doesn't work, or throwing something at them which doesn't work lmao 😂
@@al56890 they don't know the rules of the phantom zone and they never had any prior fights to learn how it works
@@siyasithole7995 okay but after Idk seeing the two attempts that failed they would instead run away or think of something new but nope lmaoo 😂
@@al56890 the Kryptonite was the last option after that it's retreat
They are taking too much episodes to get Conner out of Phantom Zone.
Superboy would still be I in that Cadmus pod, if it wasn’t for the team.
Sneaking into an interdimensional prison meant for notorious kryptonian war criminals without considerable backup... a cunning strategy!!! Wait, not cunning... what's the opposite of that?..
One of the most op characters in DC got shut down real quick lol.
Yeah let the psychos out of prison as a show of good faith 😒
3:57 she really said won hsifrats a eruoy
Superboy could’ve totally had played this in his team favor without the fighting. Agree to sent them free showing Zod point about the House of El and the High Counsel has changed. Then they would do a trail of their sentences
Why can't I find what Chanel these shows air on, I gotta keep watching clips on UA-cam, and HBOmax only got up to season 3 😩😩🤬
I was honestly just so glad he wasn’t dead- I mean after Wally’s death I also stopped watching, but just seeing Connor’s death I set the show aside. Now im glad I got back into it
Despues de esta temporada habra otra?
Hopefully
@@CaptainRexCT--rd7eq eh?
If this really is the last season,it would Futa that the show starts and ends with rescuing Connor from someone who only see’s him as a useful weapon
Not that smart to forget these arent just random earth criminals. These are kryptonian soldier's, which means they're still stronger then humans and they've also been trained.
All of this would’ve went completely different had they brung megan to the phantom zone
Of course, but that would be so simple. Then the plot wouldn't drag out. 😁
So zatanna is nerfed here she doesn't need to speak to cast spells it just helps her focus.
Zatanna: "Seof ym dnib dna raeppa sniahc etinotpyrk!". Problem solved.
Where to watch the full episodes?
[Superboy] I serve the house of Zod.😠
[Me] WTF!?😧
5 vs 5 since Zod and his wife didn't fight.
I can see Zatanna and Rocket losing in hand-to-hand combat, since they don't really have training.
You could argue that Zatanna shouldn't have lost because the Kryptonians don't have their powers, but it looks like Kaldur's advice came in too late and she was taken out before she could use her magic again.
Kaldur and Artemis are both skilled martial artists, but I wouldn't classify them as top tier. They're nowhere near Deathstroke/Lady Shiva level. Zod's soldiers are much older and probably had more years of experience. Zod's soldiers were also highly motivated to win to escape. Idk, could go either way depending on the argument presented, but I'll accept the loss as reasonable.
Now Nightwing on the other hand, shouldn't have lost against these guys in hand-to-hand combat. Could inexperience in the zone really play that much of a factor in the fight?
I understand the team losing, but they shouldn't have gotten their butts handed to them that easily.
Where are Martian Manhunter and Miss Martian when you need them?
calling it now, Wally saves the day
Bro, I'd be so happy if that happens.
From where? The dead?
@@JKtheAdevnturer if you remember the early episode of the phantom zone, the wally ghost that superboy saw was in the same color scheme as superboy, he wasn't animated in colors like the hallucinations that superboy kept having. That's a big detail to look over
@@bashengatheblackmanta7003 it's because Connor thought he was dead with him not because of anything else dude
@@siyasithole7995 if there's one thing l. Know l learn with young justice, every detail count, the wally west "ghost" was animated the same way as conner and the other Kryptonian
0:03 is this guy wearing house of El? Why is he siding with General Zod?
Any vibes of Jack Sparrow thinking everyone’s a hallucination? 0:46
Am I th eonly one who noticed that the guy in the first patrol has the house of el symbol on him, why is no one talking about this?
Coolest Zod. Just wish the show fixed some of its problems, like the exposition and dialogue issues
This doesn’t make sense. You can’t attack people if you remember them. 3:14
The smarter option might have been to give Zod what he wanted. Earth courts would have no right to judge Kryptonian sentences that have already been served overtime. And if Zod did become a threat, the League would have a better chance of dealing with the Kryptonians on Earth than in the Phantom Zone, where Zod has the home advantage. The team just turned a potential enemy into a decided one.
what do u mean they were always going to be the enemy the league from the future even told us that.
@@Randomlyrandomnss the future isn’t certain, it never is. So the team was wrong in this one
@@theyounggodlobo you're right not all parts of the future are certain but in this universe zod will always be evil, and his son will make sure of that
ugh how can they talk through there minds when Miss M isnt there does Zatana have magic that allows that?
as a show of good faith? i would have say "you're the criminals ones here, it's rather us that should ask for a show of good faith. "
0:04 and 4:00 that one has the House of El crest! Who is he?
Kru-el
I believe from what I’ve heard that there were a few other El members in the zone as well, there was a theory video if I remember correctly
Tickle my toes and pick my nose
Thats what it takes, to be the bros
Can you watch season four other than HBO Max cause I don’t have it
Whew……… Rocket was getting worked. Should’ve left her back lol
They didn’t know their weapons and stuff wouldn’t work in the Phantom Zone. Without that knowledge, Rocket was the most useful member of the team