But the rings was awake after Bilbo used it in the movie and that's why it also started showing effects to Bilbo and after he gave it to frodo he still had the effects and the time frodo met him he again started asking for the ring as soon as he saw it so I think durability definitely and surely goes to frodo and besides that both are very good characters with deep story love them both
He was the real hero. If you look at what Tolkien said about the heroes as he based several characters after his friends and one after his wife. Remember he was a solider and saw horrors of war. Sam, wasn't just one person, but the aspect of the real hero of the unrecognized common solider who fought for his friends. Sam was the polar opposite of the ring. He was to counter it when ring pulled Frodo in towards evil.
They pretty much took every single good aspect of frodo from the books and gave them to sam in the movies, but yes sam is greay, but movie frodo was very different
@@user-jx9mn7lk6j I believe (alongside the books) that in all radio versions of the hobbit, including 1977, the most we see Smaug and Bilbo together is 1. Bilbo stealing the goblet and returning the next night 2. The conversation between the two
i love frodo, but Bilbo is so relatable to me!!! He represents a introvert perfectly, not timid or shy, he just enjoys his personal time and gets annoyed with people and i love him soo much!!
Bilbo gets the wisdom he fucked up golum or smeagol in riddles and outwitted him and protected his own life unlike frodo who doubted sam and trusted golum instead
He saved them so many times, one from the trolls, one from the spiders, one from the orcs, one from getting jailed by elves forever, and prevented a sick Thorin from going insane
Bilbo fought Azog for a few seconds and talked to an evil dragon. He also found the most valued treasure and that's his friendship with Thorin in the end.
I actually agree that Biblo is probably tougher than Frodo. He held the ring for longer and wasn't corrupted by it like Frodo was towards the end of his quest.
Sauron’s power hadn’t awoken at that time PLUS the one ring was in the shire. The closer you get to Mordor, the greater its influence. Furthermore, the black riders were not hunting for the ring during Bilbo’s time at the shire. In the books, he left 17 years prior to Frodo leaving.
Yeah facing and survive with Morgoth child is better feat than facing with Ungoliant child so Smaug>Shelob realistically he would smoke Shelob easily also he is smarter than her but Ungoliant>Smaug she would anihilate him pretty fast so it would be an execution overall Morgoth>Ungoliant>Dragons>Great Spiders
Realistically Bilbo had more in terms of weapons/armor, because he didn't know what the ring was, so he just used it like a ring of invisibility, which Frodo never could.
If I have to choose to go on an adventure between Frodo or Bilbo, I would choose Bilbo, he seems more reliable in hard situation but can still make you laugh with his sarcasm.
In my opinion Bilbo is the best fantasy character I have ever seen.He goes through the change in any character other than maybe Neville Longbottom in Harry Potter and the order of the Phoenix
Bilbo outsmarted a dragon, held two of the most powerful items of middle earth during the time, actually used the ring effectively during the big spider battles, outsmarted his way out of death multiple times, and most of all, even though his journey wasn't forced on him, he chose to dive into danger because he wanted excitement. He's also the only one who's able to resist the rings temptation the longest, at least he did all the way up to the first movie when he was now an old man. Even then, he was able to drop it to the floor willfully before he went off on his other journey. Frodo is still awesome. Its just that his character is seen as more vulnerable and timid. His journey was forced on him the second Gandalf figured out what the ring really was. Towards the end, if it wasn't for Sam's compassion and gollums inconveniences, frodo would have just taken the ring for himself. Still, awesome character, but had bilbo realized what he had in his hands at the beginning, im sure he would have destroyed it.
The thing about Bilbo is that Bilbo is actually a main character. He really feels like a main character unlike Frodo, who, while incredibly written, like everything in the Lord of the Rings universe, is just one of the many main characters. Bilbo is my man.
Talk about endurance, Frodo carried the weight of the ring to the very depths of Mordor, something that absolutely no one else could have done. Dude has the willpower of a god
@@FaithWay7 Bilbo didn’t carry it to Mordor. The ring gets more powerful the closer to Mordor it is, you can see the toll it takes on Frodo is immense compared to Bilbo. For Bilbo it was just a mild obsession, for Frodo it was a constant nagging temptation that withered his soul. Frodo was braving that with an additional wound from a Morgul blade, a wound that never fully heals and only adds to his immense suffering. They were constantly be hunted down by Nazgül whereas Bilbo got to just chill at the Shire for 60 years. And remember, Gandalf says “The Ring has awoken . . . it’s heard it’s master’s call.” The Ring at the time of Frodo’s ownership is stronger than it ever was with Sméagol or Bilbo, because Sauron is finally at a point where he’s again ready to conquer Middle Earth And yes, Frodo absolutely needed Sam to succeed but that doesn’t take away how much willpower Frodo had to actually carry the ring. Sam carried the ring for only a couple hours and already he had started to fall for the seduction of the ring, it had to be Frodo.
yes but in the end frodo failed to get rid of the ring mate. The ring beat him he failed just like Isilidur did years ago. Its not much after all, frodo is a pussy from the beggining of the movies... @@mistertwister2000
@@mistertwister2000he failed several times and was saved by golem or Sam, not to mention literally carried by Sam at the end. Most importantly he wouldn’t throw it in the lava at the end
Bilbo saved his whole crew MULTIPLE times and was literally down in the trenches when it was time for war, sword in hand. That hobbit stood on BUSINESS.
Endurance 100% goes to Frodo. Dude hiked cross-country across basically Europe through swamps and over mountains in less than a year while carrying what was basically a psychological parasite
Bilbo is the one who kept the ring for many years and he did volunteer to take the ring as well to Mordor but Frodo and Sam were the ones who destroyed the ring and sailed to the east with Bilbo. All the characters were badazz
I think you can't compare two different characters, Bilbo and Frodo had different background stories : Bilbo had the possibility to choose, Frodo hadn't; Frodo, indeed, carried the ring as his uncle's legacy, and Sauron was becoming more powerful.
Yeah I get a tiny bit annoyed seeing this video as I believe that these are some characters that should never be compared in the pursuit of finding which is better. Like you said both are in very different situations, Bilbo has a choice and the comfort of others on a more (for lack of a better word) light-hearted journey and is able to enjoy certain bits of it. Whereas Frodo has no choice in the matter, either he goes sacrificing himself for Midde-Earth or lives to suffer a fate worse than death along with all of his friends and family. This removes any sense of light hearted ness from his journey as it is literally a final last ditch effort to save Middle-earth in which he is almost never not suffering due to a vast multitude of factors both internal( his own feelings and rings corruption)and external(conditions stuff brought about by ring etc).
Especially if you compare the movie versions. Jackson tried to stay true to original frodo in the books with slight differences but with bilbo he decided to write fanfiction
The difference is that frodo had sams help with him at every dangers whereas Bilbo was like a lone warrior with great understanding with the conditions
Martin freeman was perfect to play as bilbo and he fought smaug, a giant nest o giant spiders and mostly did everything solo bilbo ....... also .. got knocked out he still win though yay
Frodo saved the world but he basically kept getting into hot water so sam always had to save him. Bilbo was always strong even when away from his friends
While Bilbo is stronger physically, I'd say Frodo is stronger mentally. Yes, Bilbo had the Ring for 60 years, but Frodo had it while it was "awake" and stronger. This was even more intense as they got closer and closer to Mordor
@@Oblaczech Frodo easily got controlled while Bilbo who clearly after 60 years was starting to get into it’s grasp still fought back against the need for it especially as shown when he tries to grab it. Frodo is also easily manipulated by Gollum especially. The ring was also always wanting to go to it’s master. It was always awake as shown with the dark sorcerer who was Sauron. It was awake as well and Bilbo saw the eye, he saw the future through Smaug and still fought back against the visions. When they were looping in the forest, he quickly broke out of the loop. Frodo has a weak mind. He easily wanted to kill Gollum whilst Bilbo didn’t even with the chance. Frodo even asked why he would. Frodo is clearly weaker in the mind.
Frodo is mental 😂 Bro. Bilbo smarter then Frodo. 🖕 Bilbo outsmarted Gollum and solving some puzzles. But Frodo? What did Frodo? Carried by Sam. Without Sam= No Victory Maybe Frodo has Speed and Durability. Bilbo has more BIQ, IQ, AP, Knowledge, Hax, Manipulation. He lied to Gandalf.
I love Bilbo but I feel like people don't give enough credit to Frodo, saying he is weak etc.. I know Bilbo had the ring longer than Frodo, but at that time the ring lay relatively still. But Frodo and the Fellowship set out to destroy it and the closer Frodo gets to achieving that the heavier and stronger the ring gets. That affects Frodos strength and wisdom extremly. Yes, he wouldn't have made it without Sam and Smeagol but neither would have Bilbo who has more battle iq and experience. Frodo resisted the ring for months whilst it already grew stronger and stronger (+the time between the party and the begin of the journey, which, in the book at least, is 17 years). Therefore if it comes to willpower and mental strength and endurance I think Frodo is better than Bilbo.
Bilbo has all his feats against the spiders in the Mirkwood and than theres the fact that he saved the Dwarves from the Woodland Realm and evaded Elven capture for months on end. Just for the record Bilbo can thank the Elves and Men of Dorwinion for making that potent wine that can actually get Elves black out wasted which must mean it's some vicious stuff 😅🤣😂👌
Frodo has some insane endurance for a hobbit. Way more than Bilbo. Literally spiritually as tough as a Maiar. He resisted the shard of a Morgul blade for many days. Impressive stuff. I'd say it's an even match.
@@lotrenjoyer4672 Totally. Not to mention trekking through the fields of the Morgul vale and plains of Gorgoroth while physically wearing the One. With almost no food or water.
@@MV005ART yep endurance definitely should’ve gone to Frodo but I just thought that Bilbo wearing the ring all those years and not turning into a gollum like creature is insane. And the fact that he fought many creatures like the spiders in mirkwood. Also fighting in the battle of the five armies. It was a hard decision
@@lotrenjoyer4672 Bilbo didn't actually fight during the battle of five armies if I recall correctly. He does however have higher battle IQ than Frodo. Much higher. Bilbo started killing spiders like he had done it his whole life, while Frodo, on multiple occasions, just kind of drops his sword and basically dies :/. Also, the One was dormant for most of the time Bilbo owned it and it still had a heavy effect on him. Gollum owned it far longer. The ring keeps their vitality in check. So conceivably if Gollum would have survived Mt Doom erupting he wouldn't have lived long anyways.
The hobbit is waaay better than the LOTR. The characters are it as like: Thorin, Balin, Dwalin, Oin, Glóin, Fili, Kili, Dori, Nori, Ori, Bifur, Bofur, Bombur and Bilbo. They did a great job
I like Frodo but he never even won a proper fight and if he went alone he would die in 3 days Bilbo earned respect of the dwarves and had more character development in my opinion
Bilbo is and will forever be the greatest character in any story to me second only to Jason asano 😂😂😂😂 if anybody knows who the goat is you get 10 points
Martin freeman is the PERFECT bilbo. And yeah, bilbo would win. He wins in almost every instance. Frodos strength is escaping, meanwhile bilbo has stealth, strength, experience, AND a good escape artist under his belt. Not to mention he's the goat at distracting people with just his words Edit: 3300'th like 😊
Frodo was weak, if it wasn’t for Sam, he wouldn’t had made it, and if it wasn’t for Smeagal, he wouldn’t have turned into him. Bilbo was the better Hobbit for sure.
With respect! The Hobbit trilogy is in no way comparable to The Lord of the Rings. What Lord of the Rings presented was based on Tolkien's world and its audience was also adults, that is, all ages were surprised and enjoyed watching this masterpiece of cinema history. But what The Hobbit delivered felt more like a Disney product. My uncle is a huge Lord of the Rings fan but only watched an hour of the first episode of The Hobbit!
I'm not even joking but Bilbo takes out all the other hobbits by himself. None of them come even close to be actually useful in Battle while Bilbo is actually a good warrior
If we’re talking a fight bilbo for sure in botfa he was holding his own with galfalf against an orc horde in a fight enclosure not to mention he killed one of the wolf things in an unexpected journey. That’s a crazy feat for a hobbit
I dont care what people say about the hobbit trilogy but martin freeman was the PERFECT cast for bilbo
The whole cast was perfect, thorin, smug, thranduil everyone❤❤❤
Really everyone was, they just didn’t use them right. I so do wish they would redo the whole thing with everyone but just keep it one movie.
And delete Tauriel
Hey i love hobbit equally or maybe even more
yes yes yes
To think that Bilbo carried the ring for 60 years and still had the strenght to just give it away.
So true. More then you can say about frodo
But the rings was awake after Bilbo used it in the movie and that's why it also started showing effects to Bilbo and after he gave it to frodo he still had the effects and the time frodo met him he again started asking for the ring as soon as he saw it so I think durability definitely and surely goes to frodo and besides that both are very good characters with deep story love them both
@@adamkjell to be fair, the draw of the Ring became much more potent the closer it got to Mt Doom
@@nathanielsmith8764 valid point!
@@nathanielsmith8764 Yeah that’s true…the closer it gets to Sauron…it becomes way stronger
Sam was the real hero of LOTR. I don't think Frodo ever would've made it without him. Props to Sam, totally underrated. Deserves more potatoes.
He was the real hero. If you look at what Tolkien said about the heroes as he based several characters after his friends and one after his wife. Remember he was a solider and saw horrors of war. Sam, wasn't just one person, but the aspect of the real hero of the unrecognized common solider who fought for his friends. Sam was the polar opposite of the ring. He was to counter it when ring pulled Frodo in towards evil.
They pretty much took every single good aspect of frodo from the books and gave them to sam in the movies, but yes sam is greay, but movie frodo was very different
Sam is a chad
‘Frodo wouldn’t have go far without Sam’
Frodo Baggins, LOTR: The Two Towers
Sam is the real hero but you sound like someone who didn't read the books because Frodo is way more quick witted and heroic in the books
Bilbo literally fought a dragon. My Man is the GOAT
Kinda just ran from it tbh
Bilbo did not fight a dragon, ever. Bard kills Smaug as he makes his way into lake town in chapter 14
@@ceooftoast8118 the video is talking about the movies but I don’t think Bilbo fought Smaug in the movies either if I remember
@@user-jx9mn7lk6j I believe (alongside the books) that in all radio versions of the hobbit, including 1977, the most we see Smaug and Bilbo together is 1. Bilbo stealing the goblet and returning the next night 2. The conversation between the two
@@ceooftoast8118 yeah that’s what I thought too, ngl the most Bilbo has done is outsmart Gollum and kill a couple spiders lmfao
i love frodo, but Bilbo is so relatable to me!!! He represents a introvert perfectly, not timid or shy, he just enjoys his personal time and gets annoyed with people and i love him soo much!!
Bilbo gets the wisdom he fucked up golum or smeagol in riddles and outwitted him and protected his own life unlike frodo who doubted sam and trusted golum instead
Frodo was heavily under the inluence of the ring then though. I feel like he wouldn't have done this if the ring wasn't getting stronger and stronger.
@@WhoamI27676 I like sam more than frodo even when it was not about the ring he trusted gollum more than sam his own friend
@@amirjan175 again. frodo was being influenced by the ring and manipulated by gollum. you clearly don’t understand the story.
@@ibuprofriends Bilbo has the ring and still outwitted Gollum. And Bilbo also has the ring for 60 years and didn't even change greatly.
@@Gandalf_the_GOAT yes
Bilbo took out a nest of spiders and saved the Dwarves.
Not once, not twice but multiple times
He saved them so many times, one from the trolls, one from the spiders, one from the orcs, one from getting jailed by elves forever, and prevented a sick Thorin from going insane
@@user-jx2rr3fe1o exactly
@@user-jx2rr3fe1oGandalf saved them from the trolls
@@Maciek-uc1hxnot in the book
Even though they are both very good characters Bilbo is definitely my favorite. Bilbo practically solos
Yeah Frodo is a great character but he feels much more like a plot device if you know what I mean Bilbo is what makes the plot
Frodo for me
I agree with you :)
Bilbo is clear winner for any Hobbit comparison.
The greatest Hobbit ever lived on Middle Earth.
Bilbo🗿>>>>>Frodo
The "Hobbit" trilogy is too much underrated
In the Hobbit, Bilbo even showed his intelligence bravery n leadership qualities to the dwarves such tt even Thorin has respect for him.
Verdad
Bilbo is the G.O.A.T. of Hobbit!
Ofc
He IS kinda the main charater...
bilbo's resilience towards the ring nailed it
I love Bilbo so much more than any of the hobbits in LOTR. I think Pippin is a close second.
Merry for me he look like bilbo in my opinion
Don’t forget Sam
Mine is
1.bilbo
2.pippin
3sam just under pippin by just a tiny bit
4.frodo and merry at a tie
I like Frodo but Bilbos caracter is so much closer to me.
Same here
Bilbo fought Azog for a few seconds and talked to an evil dragon. He also found the most valued treasure and that's his friendship with Thorin in the end.
Bilbo es god
I actually agree that Biblo is probably tougher than Frodo. He held the ring for longer and wasn't corrupted by it like Frodo was towards the end of his quest.
Bilbo endured the influence of the one ring for decades unlike Frodo who started losing it after a couple months he is the goat
Sauron’s power hadn’t awoken at that time PLUS the one ring was in the shire. The closer you get to Mordor, the greater its influence. Furthermore, the black riders were not hunting for the ring during Bilbo’s time at the shire. In the books, he left 17 years prior to Frodo leaving.
Bilbo is just better 😁
I love them both❤ but Bilbo is the best!! Also he's such a good burglar he even stole Thorin's heart lol 😭
Eso puede malinterpretarse en amistad y amor
Martin Freeman was the perfect cast for Bilbo
Yea
just copied the first comment-
@@Kagzoz no I didn’t? I didn’t even know there was a comment that said that
In terms of speed Bilbo managed to get away from a Dragon while Frodo didn’t even escape a spider or whatever she was.
Shelob?😂 the demon spider spawn of Ungoliant?
Yeah facing and survive with Morgoth child is better feat than facing with Ungoliant child so Smaug>Shelob realistically he would smoke Shelob easily also he is smarter than her but Ungoliant>Smaug she would anihilate him pretty fast so it would be an execution overall Morgoth>Ungoliant>Dragons>Great Spiders
@@Sylemisi think that Ungoliant is more powerful after she drinked the light of the trees
@@Sylemisthan Morgoth
@@Sylemisdidn't she beat / capture Morgoth
This is why Frodo looks up to Bilbo
Realistically Bilbo had more in terms of weapons/armor, because he didn't know what the ring was, so he just used it like a ring of invisibility, which Frodo never could.
If I have to choose to go on an adventure between Frodo or Bilbo, I would choose Bilbo, he seems more reliable in hard situation but can still make you laugh with his sarcasm.
In my opinion Bilbo is the best fantasy character I have ever seen.He goes through the change in any character other than maybe Neville Longbottom in Harry Potter and the order of the Phoenix
I do not care if they say about the hobbit trilogy, Martin is the perfect guy to play as Bilbo. Bilbo is my favorite. I love him.
Bilbo is the best in the whole hobbit&lotr trilogy.
Bilbo outsmarted a dragon, held two of the most powerful items of middle earth during the time, actually used the ring effectively during the big spider battles, outsmarted his way out of death multiple times, and most of all, even though his journey wasn't forced on him, he chose to dive into danger because he wanted excitement. He's also the only one who's able to resist the rings temptation the longest, at least he did all the way up to the first movie when he was now an old man. Even then, he was able to drop it to the floor willfully before he went off on his other journey. Frodo is still awesome. Its just that his character is seen as more vulnerable and timid. His journey was forced on him the second Gandalf figured out what the ring really was. Towards the end, if it wasn't for Sam's compassion and gollums inconveniences, frodo would have just taken the ring for himself. Still, awesome character, but had bilbo realized what he had in his hands at the beginning, im sure he would have destroyed it.
The thing about Bilbo is that Bilbo is actually a main character. He really feels like a main character unlike Frodo, who, while incredibly written, like everything in the Lord of the Rings universe, is just one of the many main characters.
Bilbo is my man.
Talk about endurance, Frodo carried the weight of the ring to the very depths of Mordor, something that absolutely no one else could have done. Dude has the willpower of a god
Bilbo held the ring for 60 years and gave it up. Plus, imo Frodo would have died in the first movie if Sam wasn’t there to help him :P
@@FaithWay7 Bilbo didn’t carry it to Mordor. The ring gets more powerful the closer to Mordor it is, you can see the toll it takes on Frodo is immense compared to Bilbo. For Bilbo it was just a mild obsession, for Frodo it was a constant nagging temptation that withered his soul.
Frodo was braving that with an additional wound from a Morgul blade, a wound that never fully heals and only adds to his immense suffering. They were constantly be hunted down by Nazgül whereas Bilbo got to just chill at the Shire for 60 years. And remember, Gandalf says “The Ring has awoken . . . it’s heard it’s master’s call.” The Ring at the time of Frodo’s ownership is stronger than it ever was with Sméagol or Bilbo, because Sauron is finally at a point where he’s again ready to conquer Middle Earth
And yes, Frodo absolutely needed Sam to succeed but that doesn’t take away how much willpower Frodo had to actually carry the ring. Sam carried the ring for only a couple hours and already he had started to fall for the seduction of the ring, it had to be Frodo.
This is also true
yes but in the end frodo failed to get rid of the ring mate. The ring beat him he failed just like Isilidur did years ago. Its not much after all, frodo is a pussy from the beggining of the movies...
@@mistertwister2000
@@mistertwister2000he failed several times and was saved by golem or Sam, not to mention literally carried by Sam at the end. Most importantly he wouldn’t throw it in the lava at the end
Bilbo saved his whole crew MULTIPLE times and was literally down in the trenches when it was time for war, sword in hand. That hobbit stood on BUSINESS.
Endurance 100% goes to Frodo. Dude hiked cross-country across basically Europe through swamps and over mountains in less than a year while carrying what was basically a psychological parasite
And Bilbo didn't?😭
WAIT NVM
Bilbo is the one who kept the ring for many years and he did volunteer to take the ring as well to Mordor but Frodo and Sam were the ones who destroyed the ring and sailed to the east with Bilbo. All the characters were badazz
Can you make Gendalf vs Saruman
Yep I’m working on requests
Gandalf*
Gandalf all the way :D
@@lotrenjoyer4672Gandalf stole his colour 💀💀
The only reason it wasn’t bilbo taking the ring to mount doom is because he was too old.
This edit the goat oh by the way Bilbo is my favourite character in the hobbit
That’s nice to hear
I think you can't compare two different characters, Bilbo and Frodo had different background stories : Bilbo had the possibility to choose, Frodo hadn't; Frodo, indeed, carried the ring as his uncle's legacy, and Sauron was becoming more powerful.
Yeah I get a tiny bit annoyed seeing this video as I believe that these are some characters that should never be compared in the pursuit of finding which is better. Like you said both are in very different situations, Bilbo has a choice and the comfort of others on a more (for lack of a better word) light-hearted journey and is able to enjoy certain bits of it. Whereas Frodo has no choice in the matter, either he goes sacrificing himself for Midde-Earth or lives to suffer a fate worse than death along with all of his friends and family. This removes any sense of light hearted ness from his journey as it is literally a final last ditch effort to save Middle-earth in which he is almost never not suffering due to a vast multitude of factors both internal( his own feelings and rings corruption)and external(conditions stuff brought about by ring etc).
@@HelloThere-id4zt I couldn't put beautifully in words like you did 🙏thank you
Especially if you compare the movie versions. Jackson tried to stay true to original frodo in the books with slight differences but with bilbo he decided to write fanfiction
@@minnamandariini4843 Facts👌
The difference is that frodo had sams help with him at every dangers whereas Bilbo was like a lone warrior with great understanding with the conditions
Bilbo>Sam>Frodo.
This edit just hits different. Great characters + song choice + fax 🔥
Thank you shadowless🔥
Fr they did good with this one
What is the song?
Bilbo has an endearing personality and we can clearly see his evolution, while Frodo is just high for a movie and a half.
Read the books I beg :(
Bilbo is my favourite!
Knowledge is definitely bilbo outsmarting gollum instead of helping him
There's no way to compare. Bilbo was the gangsta of the ring, daddy of smaug
Martin freeman was perfect to play as bilbo and he fought smaug, a giant nest o giant spiders and mostly did everything solo bilbo ....... also .. got knocked out he still win though yay
Frodo saved the world but he basically kept getting into hot water so sam always had to save him. Bilbo was always strong even when away from his friends
While Bilbo is stronger physically, I'd say Frodo is stronger mentally. Yes, Bilbo had the Ring for 60 years, but Frodo had it while it was "awake" and stronger. This was even more intense as they got closer and closer to Mordor
WRONG
@@Driak22 Care to elaborate?
@@Oblaczech Frodo easily got controlled while Bilbo who clearly after 60 years was starting to get into it’s grasp still fought back against the need for it especially as shown when he tries to grab it. Frodo is also easily manipulated by Gollum especially. The ring was also always wanting to go to it’s master. It was always awake as shown with the dark sorcerer who was Sauron. It was awake as well and Bilbo saw the eye, he saw the future through Smaug and still fought back against the visions. When they were looping in the forest, he quickly broke out of the loop. Frodo has a weak mind. He easily wanted to kill Gollum whilst Bilbo didn’t even with the chance. Frodo even asked why he would. Frodo is clearly weaker in the mind.
Frodo is mental 😂
Bro. Bilbo smarter then Frodo. 🖕
Bilbo outsmarted Gollum and solving some puzzles. But Frodo? What did Frodo? Carried by Sam. Without Sam= No Victory
Maybe Frodo has Speed and Durability.
Bilbo has more BIQ, IQ, AP, Knowledge, Hax, Manipulation. He lied to Gandalf.
@@-rage-blackout9145 also tricked a couple people whilst being stealthy with it
Bilbo is the goat, he did more than Frodo, and Bilbo and Frodo have been my favourite since I was a kid
can you make Elrond VS Witch king?😊😊
Finally someone said it loud 🥰🤣 go Bilbo, go!!!
Bilbo is THE HOBBIT man fr
Bilbo es el mejor hobbit que he visto
Man dont make debates between the hobbit and lotr. Just both good films
Best comment! ❤
El mejor
Bilbo is my favorite
I love Bilbo but I feel like people don't give enough credit to Frodo, saying he is weak etc.. I know Bilbo had the ring longer than Frodo, but at that time the ring lay relatively still. But Frodo and the Fellowship set out to destroy it and the closer Frodo gets to achieving that the heavier and stronger the ring gets. That affects Frodos strength and wisdom extremly. Yes, he wouldn't have made it without Sam and Smeagol but neither would have Bilbo who has more battle iq and experience. Frodo resisted the ring for months whilst it already grew stronger and stronger (+the time between the party and the begin of the journey, which, in the book at least, is 17 years). Therefore if it comes to willpower and mental strength and endurance I think Frodo is better than Bilbo.
Yea book Frodo is much better then the movie version
Endurance is clearly Frodo. He literally carried the Ring to Mt. Doom.
Bilbo is the goat held the ring for like a billion years too lol
I would say bilbo wins mid or low diff since he actually fought with his sword and he was in actual war too
Frodo has gigantic spiritual strength so ...
Bilbo has all his feats against the spiders in the Mirkwood and than theres the fact that he saved the Dwarves from the Woodland Realm and evaded Elven capture for months on end.
Just for the record Bilbo can thank the Elves and Men of Dorwinion for making that potent wine that can actually get Elves black out wasted which must mean it's some vicious stuff 😅🤣😂👌
Bilbo is such a great character and Martin Freeman played him perfectly
Yes! I prefer Bilbo to Frodo!!!!
Movie wise i love LOTR, But for casting & development char I love The Hobbit more especially Bilbo
Awesome characters for awesome actors.
honestly, LOTR was better, but I prefer Bilbo over Frodo
I loved bilbo he was loyal ❤❤😊
i just love bilbo as a character
He’s wholesome
Movie bilbo would OBLITERATE movie Frodo, not even remotely close
Frodo was fooled by Golum.
While Golum was fooled by Bilbo.
Knowledge goes to bilbo silly! He’s very smart
Can you please do Gollum vs Bibo (young)
Frodo has some insane endurance for a hobbit. Way more than Bilbo. Literally spiritually as tough as a Maiar. He resisted the shard of a Morgul blade for many days. Impressive stuff. I'd say it's an even match.
He is pretty durable too considering how he got stabbed by a troll in the chest. The impact itself would kill anyone but he survived.
@@lotrenjoyer4672 Totally. Not to mention trekking through the fields of the Morgul vale and plains of Gorgoroth while physically wearing the One. With almost no food or water.
@@MV005ART yep endurance definitely should’ve gone to Frodo but I just thought that Bilbo wearing the ring all those years and not turning into a gollum like creature is insane. And the fact that he fought many creatures like the spiders in mirkwood. Also fighting in the battle of the five armies. It was a hard decision
@@lotrenjoyer4672 Bilbo didn't actually fight during the battle of five armies if I recall correctly. He does however have higher battle IQ than Frodo. Much higher. Bilbo started killing spiders like he had done it his whole life, while Frodo, on multiple occasions, just kind of drops his sword and basically dies :/. Also, the One was dormant for most of the time Bilbo owned it and it still had a heavy effect on him. Gollum owned it far longer. The ring keeps their vitality in check. So conceivably if Gollum would have survived Mt Doom erupting he wouldn't have lived long anyways.
Bilbo 100 %.
The hobbit is waaay better than the LOTR. The characters are it as like: Thorin, Balin, Dwalin, Oin, Glóin, Fili, Kili, Dori, Nori, Ori, Bifur, Bofur, Bombur and Bilbo. They did a great job
Martin freeman was my favorite thing about the hobbit trilogy he and thorin oakenshield carried the trilogy
Honestly tho
At first i thought,its Gandalf vs boromir😅😅
Frodo didnt kill a single thing the entire movie bilbo is the real hero
I love Bilbo ❤️❤️❤️🥰🥰🥰
I like Frodo but he never even won a proper fight and if he went alone he would die in 3 days
Bilbo earned respect of the dwarves and had more character development in my opinion
Bilbo is and will forever be the greatest character in any story to me second only to Jason asano 😂😂😂😂 if anybody knows who the goat is you get 10 points
And Bilbo is more handsome and cute (in my opinion 💗)
Bilbo was OG 🐐
Yessir
Idc what anyone says about the trilogy I much prefer Bilbo as a character he just has more charisma in my opinion
Bilbo: Literalmente carregando os filmes nas costas
Frodo: Bolsseiro
Bilbo should had to take the ring to Mordor
Martin freeman is the PERFECT bilbo. And yeah, bilbo would win. He wins in almost every instance. Frodos strength is escaping, meanwhile bilbo has stealth, strength, experience, AND a good escape artist under his belt. Not to mention he's the goat at distracting people with just his words
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Frodo was weak, if it wasn’t for Sam, he wouldn’t had made it, and if it wasn’t for Smeagal, he wouldn’t have turned into him. Bilbo was the better Hobbit for sure.
Lmao Frodo gets knowledge 😂
Bilbo WINS!!!
Frodo would've Died long time ago if Sam wasn't beside em
Haha I knew it was going to be bilbo
Bilbo the legend❤❤
Bilbo tiene una personalidad que me encanta
With respect! The Hobbit trilogy is in no way comparable to The Lord of the Rings. What Lord of the Rings presented was based on Tolkien's world and its audience was also adults, that is, all ages were surprised and enjoyed watching this masterpiece of cinema history. But what The Hobbit delivered felt more like a Disney product. My uncle is a huge Lord of the Rings fan but only watched an hour of the first episode of The Hobbit!
I'm not even joking but Bilbo takes out all the other hobbits by himself. None of them come even close to be actually useful in Battle while Bilbo is actually a good warrior
Hobbit:😊
Lotr:😤😢😡
Hobbit is for younger kids and i told like as fairytale for kids in evening and lotr is like more serious one but both are very good
If we’re talking a fight bilbo for sure in botfa he was holding his own with galfalf against an orc horde in a fight enclosure not to mention he killed one of the wolf things in an unexpected journey. That’s a crazy feat for a hobbit
Honestly I think Bilbo held out for so long against the ring is because he witnessed firsthand what the curse of gold can do to someone.
Bilbo not only did he fight a dragon but was ready to fight Azog to save Thorin in An Unexpected Journey
Bilbo has more combat experience, but Frodo wins on endurance by a mile