i think you're a bit harsh on ecm due to the fact it's basically cmp 2.0 once u have its proper forge enhancements the fact that it can reach 900k-1m on tagged monsters and 450-500k on non-tagged plus better survivability than cmp makes it one of the best chrono for most general content. It can also do short rifts and strong nukes on groups too.. But this is just on an endgame perspective but imo I'll give it an A-tier.
but TCM's survivability is harder to get and its nukes are not much if you are not use potions. Also these potions and precombo is waste of time and game money.
@@fatihuyar5724 Those "potions" you mean only take up inventory space and nothing else since it's free. And those corruptions, or "potions" as you call them, are part of its gameplay just like how dodging is part of SSoT.
I agree with SSOT , its fucking fun to use, you don't have to stack to insta kill with enough haste and scale, you can 5-3 nuke 5-6 monsters till the 5 skill is on cd and the monster take too long to spawn
Mid list TK sucks once you get a 100% dodge class just like how Ncm sucks after you get an endgame farming class Swot fell off too hard to still be A tier , its still nice but the effort in using it is not worth it most of the time Interstellar knight S tier its on par with Css in dps on ultras , it doesnt care about boss damage shields , its nuke loops ...if they make the class scale better like other classes then it would just break the game , just dont use it in ultra darkon
I agree with most placements though I'd say QCM would be S-tier since outside of ultras it performs really well especially in group-farming, their solo is still pretty good at worst when compared to non-chrono classes. To me at least it seems like a very high value class despite it's slower soloes compared to other chronos but a very good and comprehensive list otherwise
What doesn't make sense to me is you put UCM on B-tier cause Corrupted exists, but you still put Paladin chrono on A-tier when a free class fills its role in almost every situation.
tbh i like pcm than ap, they maybe have almost the same team buffs, but pcm has just this endurance buff thing ang ultra masisve Hot, so better to use pcm than ap, tcm and ucm on the other hand is really the same class its just ucm is not better. so its like 'why would i use it' when i have pcm ithrow ap in the bank.
currently own 7 chrono classes, id bump TK up to the top of S tier just cuz it's so damn convenient, able to multitask with it and all while it still outputs respectable dps. Simply can't go wrong with it, be it sudden spikes or laggy servers you'd still be killing hard hitting bosses. But Ssot/CSS/TCM is still fun to play with to see higher dps
As someone with basically all of them i can definitely agree with this list, however id put TK at S due to how much damage you can with the right enhancements and how easy it is for any noob to pick up and start kicking a$$
CSS should be on S tier, it passed how boss shield work, by changing super nuke to super DPS with decent nuke, it's very usefull for ultras & mid game bosses, also it has simplicity unlike SSOT or CCM
You ever think about making a video about how you would improves classes? That's what class videos need. There are a lot of classes I like that just aren't even good enough to be even at C-tier. It's easy to say a class is F-tier but it take real momentum to make an S-tier.
I remember Shiminuki making videos like that... bad skills on good classes, and a theoretical perfect class. I'm not sure about what things I'd change. Sometimes it makes sense for certain classes to be weaker than others, so there's a bit of skill involved in picking the right class for the right situation.
@@Nandixer I'm mean by fixing a class by making it better, like for example. Paladin Chronomancer, it's a Chrono class that's no doubt suppose to be P2W but it's on par with Arch Paladin that's F2P . . . How would you fix Paladin Chronomancer to get what you Paid for.
If they ever made DoTs scale with item boosts maybe IK would have been higher 😔 But then again... SWoT exists 💀 we wouldn't want to give AE an excuse to make another Azalith-esque fight
I have all of them but I only ever use three of them. Chronomancer, Time Killer, and Nechronomancer. These placements seem about right. My eyes glaze over every time i read SWoT or the consumable item ones so I'll just defer to you for their placement. I would have ranked QCM and Paladin lower though simply because their supposed ultra boss utility is purely theoretical. Frankly, I have yet to be in a single ultra boss room that's ever let me use either of them. I've always been on the receiving end of some kind of fit demanding I change before even fighting the boss. I feel like there should be a consideration for "No one will actually let you use it for that." Especially since they do cost 5k acs for people who don't collect the calendars like me.
I respect this list, but will have to bump Paladin and Quantum Chronos up to S tier as they are the ones considered reliable chronos in ultra boss fights with little to no downside or compromise in the team composition.
Agreed 100% The reason I didn't put them in S-tier is that you clear ultras once a week, while you do other forms of bossing (either soloing or group oneshots) more often.
@@Nandixer how about CSS? the class can be use both ultras and other forms of bosses either solo or farming. I know you're going to say it's PING RELIANT but tbh it's not really. You can just actually spam 34444445 and the class itself is broken even better nukes than TK or TCM
@@trey5101 You do know what ping right? pings mean when you press the skill button, it won't activate the moment you pressed it, it will lag depends on pings, the higher the ping the longer for it to activate, how can you spam when literally the skill button is Unavailable because you already pressed it, it just lagged. you can't spam when you're high ping. That is why SWOT is also ping reliant, IDK why he put SWOT on S tier and TK on A tier when TK's dodge buff is longer duration, so even if there's ping problem, you're not to worry about dodge, while SWOT has shorter dodge buff, that 300% dodge.
@@trey5101 I could say TCM is also ping reliant since that transient mode will literally kill you when high ping, and since TCM is harder to use, it will be more harder when high ping. You could say TCM, TK and CSS are on same level, doesn't matter if you can spam or not. Also you could say CSS has higher damage output at the very start, but in very long battle like Azalith, if you know how to use TCM properly and SWOT it can deal much damage than CSS, the problem is damage scales up the longer the fight so 1 mistake of combo might reset your scaled damage especially TCM since you also worry on your HP because of self damage overtime. but at least you won't need to break your finger because of Spam like css.
Chronomancer Prime is the GOAT. Chrono Commandant drops fast and huge nukes when buffed but is ultimately weaker than Chrono Prime vs normal bosses and less versatile than Chaos Avenger vs ultra bosses (I don't have Dauntless). Chrono DataKnight is useful for dealing 500 million damage to bypass FIrebird Anqa's boss shield and prevent its resurrection but otherwise I've found it slow and useless. TimeKeeper is strong, easy to use, and evasive... But it's often unneeded with Chrono Prime, inferior to SSoT, and lacks utility like Martial Artist (which didn't exist at the time of this video).
i totally agree with CDK hahahaha thats the reason why they introduced boss shield, remember when the 1st ultra boss from DF always looking for CDK player for help.
swot and nechronomancer is basically my meta back then when i still playing this game nechronomancer is goated at farming (this is why i don't farm LR) and SWoT is absolutely fun to play, amazing solo class and it will do farm well when needed (and this is why i don't have vhl) burst damage gang
CMD and CDK on C tier is actually ridiculous. CMD with daunt and lament literally replaces CAV on all ultras (Except drago). Low COOLDOWN low MANA COST and extremely fast nukes CDK can 1 shot Most ULTRA BOSSES with right enhancements Some Boss shields just nerfs the damage not totally limit them like in timeinn (literally can 1 nuke all except ezrajal) not to mention CDK has the highest damage output on all chrono so its base skills literally does high amount of damage and add nuke on it
Necro Chrono needs to be higher. It seems to be a farm class at a glance, sure, but it's actually the best all-rounder available. It can even work as a full dodge class if you gear it up right (no potions needed either). Its damage nuke is deceptively high too, as it works twofold. One hit from the nuke scales on your temporal rift, the other hit from the nuke scales from the other attacks.
TK > SSOT because SSOT, you still have a small chance to get one TAP from a heavy hitter boss, even you perfect combo and Vim forge helmet. TK seems reliable and good fitting for the most weapons eht has no mana issues even without vim. unlike SSOT, if not have Dauntless, the class likely cry for mana vamp most for ravenous seem not effect much damage not even scale Smite was ok but deplete mana very quickly (Same setup interm of solo funny that YNR can outspeed SSOT/SWOT even perfrom better with potion + Ravenous or Dauntless )
I agree, but the fact that SWoT just offers more to most general content aside from dodge makes it just a better chrono pick. Not trying to be biased but I often use SWoT more than TK probably because I am already used to the class already (shifted to TK to SWoT) and it didn't really made me feel using TK anymore coz I already am doing better with SWoT in both solo and group content. SWoT is also the chrono that carried me to the endgame in regards to farming bosses and multiple high hp mobs at the same time for faster grinding coincidentally. But of course, whenever you don't feel like grinding that hard, can't use the class properly sometimes and just want to chill, in the end TK is always your best friend.
Ssot: Dot nuke(unavoidable), 400% dodge chance Tk: nuke can be dodged/missed, not guaranteed to crit (most of the time you will not hit and crit), can still get one taped if u are solo because it doesn't get to 100% dodge if u are not using potions The only thing that tk is better than ssot is how easy it is to use, because it's just worse in every other aspect and i say that as a person that used and tested both. Ssot doesn't need dauntless, it actually has higher dps if you use smite, and vim helm also helps with this problem, if u do the rotation right you will most likely not even feel the mana being drained. But if u don't want to think (just a bit because it's not actually that hard) while playing then sure, tk is for you
@@ManoellaMaya Have no idea what you smoke but i want some 🤣 SSOT only have temporary 300% evade plus taunts 4 sec still useless due it also cost you health(self dot) the nuke or "Silhouette/Shadow Warp" can be avoid the only guaranteed is "Temporal Eclipse" which base skill that need to active before the class can do nuke yes the class still need dauntless or Manavamp without it you mana will drain very quickly and if you cannot maintain combo will make you rotation messup very easy even have to cross nuke phase and yes Smith is the only weapon eht that improve class DPS as you can see is the problem here Because Ravenous will not scales DOT damage plus Vim cannot make SSOT reach 85% dodge rate which is safe stats and sometime you still risk get one tap from hard hitting boss just stop meat riding the class and acepted reallity (Solo SSOT will never touch 300K with help Malve elixir + sage tonic + Honor potion the best can go just around 200-250K also make class even more rough and cannot continuously nuke, toward Honor potion have debuff increase all mana costs by 25% for 35 secs) 🤷♂ (Unlike TimeKiller, with vim and the skill "Compress Time" + Ravenous you can touch 90% Dodge rate already , Cri is no problem if you use Lament + Keen Elixir + Ravenous, which will increase Cri by 70%, and when used with Felicitous Philtre, it can do about 300K+ in solo every 12sec(6.5 due self Haste 50%) can scales higher overtime with Ravenous which leaves SSOT into dust, also TimeKiller suit with most Eht that why is upperhand still not to mention in team sup if you have buff from LR and loO) Funny YNR even doing better than SSOT even in term of solo or team sup with same eht even perfrom better since it have Spinning dragon which will reduced next hit to 0 try timing combine that with Praxis even make team invincible talk about CSS/CSH which same complex combo level than SSOT but no auto attack it can outspeed SSOT in any aspect speed, dodge, short-long burst Nuke even performs better in ultra fight Yes i'd say that again SSOT have no place after it getting nerf 4 year ago
@@UR777B u saying someone is meat riding is crazy, look at how much things u have to list to make tk works, while with ssot i can deal 250k very easy with just smite and a stonecrusher, maybe u just have a skill issue to not be able to do such things but it's okay
@@UR777B not a lot of ppl think like u, super nerd. Sometimes they just want to solo a boss that they normally wouldn't, and it's undeniable that ssot is a safer option for that, since u don't need too many things like the class u so much defend
As someone else already said, you list chronos based on everyday utility a d you put TCM above both TK and CSS. Secondly, you yourself said that TK is basically SSOT equivalent. I know that SSOT can also farm, but TK performs better in damage for some time and its dodge is way more valuable than guaranteed crit. Especially since you can easily make it up with pots. There is dodge pot, but its not loopable at all. So idk why its not at least on par with cmp.
@@hidesidehs5271 if you can easily make TK better with pots imagine what SWoT can do while potted. Also I made a quick comparison on these two chronos already as I own both of them on the lategame-endgame perspective.
@@daneli4414 The argument is that its easily to find pots for TKs crit chance and damage than it is for CMP's dodge. Anyway, both fully potted SWOT and TK have comparable DPS from what I know unless the fight goes on forever.
A lot of people were Salty about the Boss Shields where in fact Ultra Bosses/Time Inn is just imported from Dragon fable where Calendar Classes are sometimes not optimal to do a fight.
That is ...why you use interstellar knight , it just doesnt care about boss shields , its an easy ss tier and its insanely slept on .....if they make the class scale any better then it would just break the game , just pot and pair it with arachno and you practically have beat the entire game .....just dont do ultra darkon with it
Hello, Can you please make a video about ravenous and dauntless when it comes to damage and which classes utilize it better. I already have ravenous and i dknt knkw if its worth farming dauntless especialy with its difficult requirements thanks.
I think I was playing the second taunter because one of the other people (don't remember who) didn't know how to. If you look closely, I briefly switch to Nulgath when taunting.
hi, im considering quantum chrono to help with ultra for my chrono class but the video you say you wouldnt recommend it, may i ask why? and if not which other classes do i use to replace qcm in ultra?
Mostly because QCM makes ultras go faster, but it won't help you clear ultras you couldn't already clear. It's a good replacement for StoneCrusher and some DPS classes like DoT or CAv, depending on what you're fighting.
@@Nandixer i have tk now, what chrono class would you recommend for stuff that tk cant do like such as ultra, or any harder or more lategame stuff that other f2p class cant do/match as well
Honestly CMP is underrated as hell because it's literally just TK w/o the dodge utility training wheel. Great video but wish for you to burn in hell for daring to put my precious baby QCM in A-tier when it's clearly the best class AE ever made...
IK isnt decent for the midgame .....its one of the best dps ultra classes and youre insane for putting it that low , it doesnt care about boss damage shields , its dot nuke loops , its viable anywhere and everywhere except in ultra darkon which has insane dot resistance ......otherwise pair this class with a arachnomancer and youve practically beat the game. Its nothing less than SS
Daunt, vim, peni: Cast hourglass of transcience> hit random mob 4243 > hit boss 42224253 nuke combo repeat (no need to do 4243) Risky tip: the lower ur hp the higher ur nuke, cuz the self dot increases per tick and hit 3 as fast as u can after u hit 5 in the combo If u dont have daunt then lacerate Cast hourglass of transcience then gear up corruption > hit a random mob 42643 > hit boss 42242253 nuke combo > every 2 nuke combos 422642253
@@dbrtseller8827 You can get Paladin if you want, but it's specifically for supporting ultra fights. If you only ever get one chrono, I'd rather get something that crits in solo play.
@@Nandixeris paladin normally replaceable with archpaladin? Because i think the dps class are more replaceable then the support one. Or i might me wrong please enlighten me 😅. Tldr i was thinking of finding something unique that is not so replaceable by the normal obtainable class
@@louisedwardnugroho3072 In most ultras, you can use AP instead of PCM and do fine. You heal a bit less often, but the difference is small. Watch my video on AP vs. PCM :)
Feels a bit biased ngl. I would rank tcm lower. You seem to really enjoy the learning the combos but from what I've seen they do much less than you give them credit for. TCM does seem nice on paper but turns out to mostly be a /classhall class where it doesn't have real uses(I'd say dauntless transcience is the only exceptionally good build while the others are impractical and even that build is kinda contained to low hitting bosses). Also to make it clear, we do not compare TCM with consumables to classes without consumables. If TCM gets foresee TK/CSS/SSOT get potent honor potion/felicious philtre. Tcm loses ranking imo because of the impracticality of having to use a bunch of consumables to kill a boss since it takes time. Having a minute long setup for foresee is not a skill issue, it's a debilitating downside. It's dodge combo is also just a bit shitty compared to other classes. It's a jack of all trades class that is just alright at everything it does. Get the class if you wanna stand in classhall and see big numbers. An example of how TCM is kinda shitty is your example 6:46 where it seems to take a bit over 54 seconds(maybe up to 60s) to kill desolich with full pots. Compare that to potted ravenous TK(felicious + fate + destruction) which kills it in 37-42 seconds based on 2 tests. Looking around at all the "amazing" tcm feats and other potted chronos are often just better and/or more practical. With the exception of TCM with dauntless transcience + felicious there really are no real world use cases for it. I'd argue a class like CSS is better in most situations. TCM is hard but that does not make it actually better than other chronos. You can still like the class of course and put it at the top of your enjoyability rankings but saying it's the best class that any skilled player should get is dishonest.
A balanced take with a detailed explanation. One thing I'd mention is that the Desolich kill was not fully potted (no Tonics or Elixirs active at the time). Other than that you raise some good points.
i think you're a bit harsh on ecm due to the fact it's basically cmp 2.0 once u have its proper forge enhancements
the fact that it can reach 900k-1m on tagged monsters and 450-500k on non-tagged plus better survivability than cmp makes it one of the best chrono for most general content. It can also do short rifts and strong nukes on groups too..
But this is just on an endgame perspective but imo I'll give it an A-tier.
Got to agree on the list. Nicely done
Thank you! :)
Thanks for making this video!
I will always be here for Infinity Knight praise.
Thank you for this outstanding vid !!!
As a user of TCM and Ssot, SSOT is far harder to use for being a dot class, any misclick or lag would drop the dot to 0, TCM is easier since it's nuke
but TCM's survivability is harder to get and its nukes are not much if you are not use potions. Also these potions and precombo is waste of time and game money.
@@fatihuyar5724 Those "potions" you mean only take up inventory space and nothing else since it's free. And those corruptions, or "potions" as you call them, are part of its gameplay just like how dodging is part of SSoT.
I agree with SSOT , its fucking fun to use, you don't have to stack to insta kill with enough haste and scale, you can 5-3 nuke 5-6 monsters till the 5 skill is on cd and the monster take too long to spawn
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S tier: Tk, Cpm, Ccm, Css
A tier: SWOT, Ncm (F tier if you already have a farming class)
F tier: Rest of the class
Mid list
TK sucks once you get a 100% dodge class just like how Ncm sucks after you get an endgame farming class
Swot fell off too hard to still be A tier , its still nice but the effort in using it is not worth it most of the time
Interstellar knight S tier its on par with Css in dps on ultras , it doesnt care about boss damage shields , its nuke loops ...if they make the class scale better like other classes then it would just break the game , just dont use it in ultra darkon
eh
I agree with most placements though I'd say QCM would be S-tier since outside of ultras it performs really well especially in group-farming, their solo is still pretty good at worst when compared to non-chrono classes.
To me at least it seems like a very high value class despite it's slower soloes compared to other chronos but a very good and comprehensive list otherwise
What doesn't make sense to me is you put UCM on B-tier cause Corrupted exists, but you still put Paladin chrono on A-tier when a free class fills its role in almost every situation.
tbh i like pcm than ap, they maybe have almost the same team buffs, but pcm has just this endurance buff thing ang ultra masisve Hot, so better to use pcm than ap,
tcm and ucm on the other hand is really the same class its just ucm is not better. so its like 'why would i use it' when i have pcm ithrow ap in the bank.
@@bryandandoy885 yes, PCM is a little bit better than AP, but not enough to justify the 6k acs when AP is free and u can get it in a single day.
currently own 7 chrono classes, id bump TK up to the top of S tier just cuz it's so damn convenient, able to multitask with it and all while it still outputs respectable dps. Simply can't go wrong with it, be it sudden spikes or laggy servers you'd still be killing hard hitting bosses. But Ssot/CSS/TCM is still fun to play with to see higher dps
As someone with basically all of them i can definitely agree with this list, however id put TK at S due to how much damage you can with the right enhancements and how easy it is for any noob to pick up and start kicking a$$
CSS should be on S tier, it passed how boss shield work, by changing super nuke to super DPS with decent nuke, it's very usefull for ultras & mid game bosses, also it has simplicity unlike SSOT or CCM
You ever think about making a video about how you would improves classes? That's what class videos need. There are a lot of classes I like that just aren't even good enough to be even at C-tier. It's easy to say a class is F-tier but it take real momentum to make an S-tier.
I remember Shiminuki making videos like that... bad skills on good classes, and a theoretical perfect class.
I'm not sure about what things I'd change. Sometimes it makes sense for certain classes to be weaker than others, so there's a bit of skill involved in picking the right class for the right situation.
@@Nandixer I'm mean by fixing a class by making it better, like for example. Paladin Chronomancer, it's a Chrono class that's no doubt suppose to be P2W but it's on par with Arch Paladin that's F2P . . .
How would you fix Paladin Chronomancer to get what you Paid for.
Chrono shadowslayer from my texting is the strongest, easiest one to use and fun to use too!
yea, im clocking in to this one
Nice video bro
If they ever made DoTs scale with item boosts maybe IK would have been higher 😔
But then again... SWoT exists 💀 we wouldn't want to give AE an excuse to make another Azalith-esque fight
I have all of them but I only ever use three of them. Chronomancer, Time Killer, and Nechronomancer. These placements seem about right.
My eyes glaze over every time i read SWoT or the consumable item ones so I'll just defer to you for their placement.
I would have ranked QCM and Paladin lower though simply because their supposed ultra boss utility is purely theoretical. Frankly, I have yet to be in a single ultra boss room that's ever let me use either of them. I've always been on the receiving end of some kind of fit demanding I change before even fighting the boss.
I feel like there should be a consideration for "No one will actually let you use it for that." Especially since they do cost 5k acs for people who don't collect the calendars like me.
I have SSoT/SWoT that put me a smile on my face after seing she became S tier class.
what is the combo for killing ultra bosses?
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I only did it for ultranulgath well you need Taunt for ssot. I dunno the rest, that's what I did.
Yep I'll do TCM but it'll take some time :)
I respect this list, but will have to bump Paladin and Quantum Chronos up to S tier as they are the ones considered reliable chronos in ultra boss fights with little to no downside or compromise in the team composition.
Agreed 100%
The reason I didn't put them in S-tier is that you clear ultras once a week, while you do other forms of bossing (either soloing or group oneshots) more often.
@@Nandixer how about CSS? the class can be use both ultras and other forms of bosses either solo or farming. I know you're going to say it's PING RELIANT but tbh it's not really. You can just actually spam 34444445 and the class itself is broken even better nukes than TK or TCM
@@trey5101 You do know what ping right? pings mean when you press the skill button, it won't activate the moment you pressed it, it will lag depends on pings, the higher the ping the longer for it to activate, how can you spam when literally the skill button is Unavailable because you already pressed it, it just lagged. you can't spam when you're high ping.
That is why SWOT is also ping reliant, IDK why he put SWOT on S tier and TK on A tier when TK's dodge buff is longer duration, so even if there's ping problem, you're not to worry about dodge, while SWOT has shorter dodge buff, that 300% dodge.
@@trey5101 I could say TCM is also ping reliant since that transient mode will literally kill you when high ping, and since TCM is harder to use, it will be more harder when high ping. You could say TCM, TK and CSS are on same level, doesn't matter if you can spam or not.
Also you could say CSS has higher damage output at the very start, but in very long battle like Azalith, if you know how to use TCM properly and SWOT it can deal much damage than CSS, the problem is damage scales up the longer the fight so 1 mistake of combo might reset your scaled damage especially TCM since you also worry on your HP because of self damage overtime. but at least you won't need to break your finger because of Spam like css.
@@berserker7091 ??? so as the other classes?? what makes you think CSS is ping reliant? tell me
Chronomancer Prime is the GOAT.
Chrono Commandant drops fast and huge nukes when buffed but is ultimately weaker than Chrono Prime vs normal bosses and less versatile than Chaos Avenger vs ultra bosses (I don't have Dauntless).
Chrono DataKnight is useful for dealing 500 million damage to bypass FIrebird Anqa's boss shield and prevent its resurrection but otherwise I've found it slow and useless.
TimeKeeper is strong, easy to use, and evasive... But it's often unneeded with Chrono Prime, inferior to SSoT, and lacks utility like Martial Artist (which didn't exist at the time of this video).
i totally agree with CDK hahahaha thats the reason why they introduced boss shield, remember when the 1st ultra boss from DF always looking for CDK player for help.
TCM and CMP above CSS is crazy
Tbf I can understand TCM being above CSS, maybe on the same lvl if I'm being hopeful
But yeah CSS below CMP is pretty crazy lol
TCM ye, CMP maybe no
@@charsasd7294 in terms of versatility. CSS is far better than CMP. Solo/Ultras/Farm name it.
@@trey5101 i actually mean the opposite of that i wrote 😅
TCM is better, CMP no (maybe).
well, CSS is pretty ping reliant, and some owners who have it can't reliably use it unless they have better m/s
swot and nechronomancer is basically my meta back then when i still playing this game
nechronomancer is goated at farming (this is why i don't farm LR)
and SWoT is absolutely fun to play, amazing solo class and it will do farm well when needed (and this is why i don't have vhl)
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CMD and CDK on C tier is actually ridiculous.
CMD with daunt and lament literally replaces CAV on all ultras (Except drago). Low COOLDOWN low MANA COST and extremely fast nukes
CDK can 1 shot Most ULTRA BOSSES with right enhancements
Some Boss shields just nerfs the damage not totally limit them like in timeinn (literally can 1 nuke all except ezrajal) not to mention CDK has the highest damage output on all chrono so its base skills literally does high amount of damage and add nuke on it
A lot of them do better without daunt though, it's a tier list not which build makes them more broken than the other 🌚
Necro Chrono needs to be higher. It seems to be a farm class at a glance, sure, but it's actually the best all-rounder available. It can even work as a full dodge class if you gear it up right (no potions needed either). Its damage nuke is deceptively high too, as it works twofold. One hit from the nuke scales on your temporal rift, the other hit from the nuke scales from the other attacks.
Agree with u brother
TK > SSOT because SSOT, you still have a small chance to get one TAP from a heavy hitter boss, even you perfect combo and Vim forge helmet. TK seems reliable and good fitting for the most weapons eht has no mana issues even without vim. unlike SSOT, if not have Dauntless, the class likely cry for mana vamp most for ravenous seem not effect much damage not even scale Smite was ok but deplete mana very quickly
(Same setup interm of solo funny that YNR can outspeed SSOT/SWOT even perfrom better with potion + Ravenous or Dauntless )
I agree, but the fact that SWoT just offers more to most general content aside from dodge makes it just a better chrono pick. Not trying to be biased but I often use SWoT more than TK probably because I am already used to the class already (shifted to TK to SWoT) and it didn't really made me feel using TK anymore coz I already am doing better with SWoT in both solo and group content. SWoT is also the chrono that carried me to the endgame in regards to farming bosses and multiple high hp mobs at the same time for faster grinding coincidentally.
But of course, whenever you don't feel like grinding that hard, can't use the class properly sometimes and just want to chill, in the end TK is always your best friend.
Ssot: Dot nuke(unavoidable), 400% dodge chance
Tk: nuke can be dodged/missed, not guaranteed to crit (most of the time you will not hit and crit), can still get one taped if u are solo because it doesn't get to 100% dodge if u are not using potions
The only thing that tk is better than ssot is how easy it is to use, because it's just worse in every other aspect and i say that as a person that used and tested both. Ssot doesn't need dauntless, it actually has higher dps if you use smite, and vim helm also helps with this problem, if u do the rotation right you will most likely not even feel the mana being drained. But if u don't want to think (just a bit because it's not actually that hard) while playing then sure, tk is for you
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SSOT only have temporary 300% evade plus taunts 4 sec still useless due it also cost you health(self dot) the nuke or "Silhouette/Shadow Warp" can be avoid the only guaranteed is "Temporal Eclipse" which base skill that need to active before the class can do nuke yes the class still need dauntless or Manavamp without it you mana will drain very quickly and if you cannot maintain combo will make you rotation messup very easy even have to cross nuke phase and yes Smith is the only weapon eht that improve class DPS as you can see is the problem here Because Ravenous will not scales DOT damage plus Vim cannot make SSOT reach 85% dodge rate which is safe stats and sometime you still risk get one tap from hard hitting boss just stop meat riding the class and acepted reallity (Solo SSOT will never touch 300K with help Malve elixir + sage tonic + Honor potion the best can go just around 200-250K also make class even more rough and cannot continuously nuke, toward Honor potion have debuff increase all mana costs by 25% for 35 secs) 🤷♂
(Unlike TimeKiller, with vim and the skill "Compress Time" + Ravenous you can touch 90% Dodge rate already , Cri is no problem if you use Lament + Keen Elixir + Ravenous, which will increase Cri by 70%, and when used with Felicitous Philtre, it can do about 300K+ in solo every 12sec(6.5 due self Haste 50%) can scales higher overtime with Ravenous which leaves SSOT into dust, also TimeKiller suit with most Eht that why is upperhand still not to mention in team sup if you have buff from LR and loO)
Funny YNR even doing better than SSOT even in term of solo or team sup with same eht even perfrom better since it have Spinning dragon which will reduced next hit to 0 try timing combine that with Praxis even make team invincible
talk about CSS/CSH which same complex combo level than SSOT but no auto attack it can outspeed SSOT in any aspect speed, dodge, short-long burst Nuke even performs better in ultra fight
Yes i'd say that again SSOT have no place after it getting nerf 4 year ago
@@UR777B u saying someone is meat riding is crazy, look at how much things u have to list to make tk works, while with ssot i can deal 250k very easy with just smite and a stonecrusher, maybe u just have a skill issue to not be able to do such things but it's okay
@@UR777B not a lot of ppl think like u, super nerd. Sometimes they just want to solo a boss that they normally wouldn't, and it's undeniable that ssot is a safer option for that, since u don't need too many things like the class u so much defend
As someone else already said, you list chronos based on everyday utility a d you put TCM above both TK and CSS.
Secondly, you yourself said that TK is basically SSOT equivalent. I know that SSOT can also farm, but TK performs better in damage for some time and its dodge is way more valuable than guaranteed crit. Especially since you can easily make it up with pots. There is dodge pot, but its not loopable at all. So idk why its not at least on par with cmp.
The best way I can put it is... CMP is a really good hammer. SSoT and TK are two swiss army knives.
@@Nandixer Doesnt matter, you either use one metric or another. Either way, my second point still stands.
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if you can easily make TK better with pots imagine what SWoT can do while potted. Also I made a quick comparison on these two chronos already as I own both of them on the lategame-endgame perspective.
@@daneli4414 The argument is that its easily to find pots for TKs crit chance and damage than it is for CMP's dodge.
Anyway, both fully potted SWOT and TK have comparable DPS from what I know unless the fight goes on forever.
so what should i buy? what is the GOAT? CMP?
Depends :) If you can't pick, TK is decent
CSS/CSH should be S tier I think
A lot of people were Salty about the Boss Shields where in fact Ultra Bosses/Time Inn is just imported from Dragon fable where Calendar Classes are sometimes not optimal to do a fight.
That is ...why you use interstellar knight , it just doesnt care about boss shields , its an easy ss tier and its insanely slept on .....if they make the class scale any better then it would just break the game , just pot and pair it with arachno and you practically have beat the entire game .....just dont do ultra darkon with it
For end game content like ultras, should i go with css,tcm or qcm?
For ultras specifically, definitely QCM. The other two get you faster clears in normal bosses though. TCM for higher HP, CSS for lower HP.
can we get a guide on verus doomknight? your videos are so much more easier to understand than others
Yep it's on my todo list! I think I might upload 2 videos before it though.
Hey! Can you make a guide for consumables/pots it's kinda overwhelming to know what everything does when I just returned to the game
Good idea! I'll write it down :)
@@Nandixer thank you! i look forward to it!
Hello,
Can you please make a video about ravenous and dauntless when it comes to damage and which classes utilize it better. I already have ravenous and i dknt knkw if its worth farming dauntless especialy with its difficult requirements thanks.
Can do ;) But overall I think it's worth it. It add a lot of DPS to classes that can utilize it well
What would you recommend a chrono class that good at solo and party and ultra's? I can't pick between css and cmp, swot
CSS is pretty popular these days. I think it could work for you.
hi
which class would you recommend for easy use? i was looking at TK and CSS
thank you
TK is easier :)
CMP is good, simple, and classic
unsure which one i should get... already have ssot but looking for something new and something i would get a lot of use out of
Timekeeper of necrotic chonormancer
Necrotic chronomancer should be A Lmao, especially now that there's forge enhancement.
8:18 have you taunted the Overfiend to reduce its damage? I interpret ??? at damage (from aqwwikidot) to mean unknown damage.
I think I was playing the second taunter because one of the other people (don't remember who) didn't know how to.
If you look closely, I briefly switch to Nulgath when taunting.
hi, im considering quantum chrono to help with ultra for my chrono class but the video you say you wouldnt recommend it, may i ask why? and if not which other classes do i use to replace qcm in ultra?
Mostly because QCM makes ultras go faster, but it won't help you clear ultras you couldn't already clear. It's a good replacement for StoneCrusher and some DPS classes like DoT or CAv, depending on what you're fighting.
@@Nandixer i have tk now, what chrono class would you recommend for stuff that tk cant do like such as ultra, or any harder or more lategame stuff that other f2p class cant do/match as well
Honestly CMP is underrated as hell because it's literally just TK w/o the dodge utility training wheel.
Great video but wish for you to burn in hell for daring to put my precious baby QCM in A-tier when it's clearly the best class AE ever made...
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What do you recommend to buy between CSS and TCM?
Both are fine choices. I'm partial to TCM, especially if you have Dauntless. Others might suggest CSS though.
I couldn't agree in QCM it shouldn't be on A it's always been S , no further explanation. If you know you know.
Hi if i want a CM that does well on solo and group, what would you recommend? I want to have at least 1 CM in my life lol
Probably TK.
IK isnt decent for the midgame .....its one of the best dps ultra classes and youre insane for putting it that low , it doesnt care about boss damage shields , its dot nuke loops , its viable anywhere and everywhere except in ultra darkon which has insane dot resistance ......otherwise pair this class with a arachnomancer and youve practically beat the game. Its nothing less than SS
Is there a way to get TCM Perfect Dodge Heal now that Absolution dont debuff dmg?
Yep! Challenge an AP to PvP, then have them use 2 > 2 > 5. Apply Transcience :)
Daunt, vim, peni:
Cast hourglass of transcience> hit random mob 4243 > hit boss 42224253 nuke combo repeat (no need to do 4243)
Risky tip: the lower ur hp the higher ur nuke, cuz the self dot increases per tick and hit 3 as fast as u can after u hit 5 in the combo
If u dont have daunt then lacerate
Cast hourglass of transcience then gear up corruption > hit a random mob 42643 > hit boss 42242253 nuke combo > every 2 nuke combos 422642253
Bro PLEASE do timekeeper guide
started with CMP and directly into S tier? insta like+sub ❤
If i have 6k ac for 1 of the class for late game what should i buy?
I feel like obsidian paladin chronomancer also a very good pick for supporting
@@dbrtseller8827 You can get Paladin if you want, but it's specifically for supporting ultra fights. If you only ever get one chrono, I'd rather get something that crits in solo play.
@@Nandixeris paladin normally replaceable with archpaladin? Because i think the dps class are more replaceable then the support one. Or i might me wrong please enlighten me 😅. Tldr i was thinking of finding something unique that is not so replaceable by the normal obtainable class
@@louisedwardnugroho3072 In most ultras, you can use AP instead of PCM and do fine. You heal a bit less often, but the difference is small. Watch my video on AP vs. PCM :)
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Feels a bit biased ngl. I would rank tcm lower. You seem to really enjoy the learning the combos but from what I've seen they do much less than you give them credit for.
TCM does seem nice on paper but turns out to mostly be a /classhall class where it doesn't have real uses(I'd say dauntless transcience is the only exceptionally good build while the others are impractical and even that build is kinda contained to low hitting bosses).
Also to make it clear, we do not compare TCM with consumables to classes without consumables. If TCM gets foresee TK/CSS/SSOT get potent honor potion/felicious philtre.
Tcm loses ranking imo because of the impracticality of having to use a bunch of consumables to kill a boss since it takes time. Having a minute long setup for foresee is not a skill issue, it's a debilitating downside. It's dodge combo is also just a bit shitty compared to other classes. It's a jack of all trades class that is just alright at everything it does. Get the class if you wanna stand in classhall and see big numbers.
An example of how TCM is kinda shitty is your example 6:46 where it seems to take a bit over 54 seconds(maybe up to 60s) to kill desolich with full pots. Compare that to potted ravenous TK(felicious + fate + destruction) which kills it in 37-42 seconds based on 2 tests. Looking around at all the "amazing" tcm feats and other potted chronos are often just better and/or more practical. With the exception of TCM with dauntless transcience + felicious there really are no real world use cases for it. I'd argue a class like CSS is better in most situations.
TCM is hard but that does not make it actually better than other chronos. You can still like the class of course and put it at the top of your enjoyability rankings but saying it's the best class that any skilled player should get is dishonest.
A balanced take with a detailed explanation. One thing I'd mention is that the Desolich kill was not fully potted (no Tonics or Elixirs active at the time). Other than that you raise some good points.
@@Nandixer Oh wait that's true. I just saw the grey cogs and assumed potted. My bad honestly.
@@marcus549 All good! Everything else you said is still valid! :)
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I got chrono corruptor it so sucks. I want to delete it
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Css is best no doubt if u want spend 6k ac you r dumb but if u must take CSS will thx after
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youre tripping css is ss tier.
You also trippin when you only know CSS 😂
shh
No its not. Its overrated trash. Its A at best