Édouard Manet, Le Déjeuner sur l'herbe (Luncheon on the Grass), oil on canvas, 1863, 207 x 265 cm (Musee d’Orsay, Paris). Speakers: Dr. Steven Zucker and Dr. Beth Harris
"He's giving all the indications that there is a narrative and then not including that narrative". I love that, truly the mark of a genius work of art.
That last bit where it is stated that Manet was offering a challenge helps me to understand the choice of the placement of the clothing in the bottom left. Normally, when foreground objects like drapery lay on a surface, you would expect at least some of it to cross the panel border, contributing to the feeling that the space they are occupying is large and open. By keeping the blue of the clothing in the frame, the 2d surface of the painting is reinforced. This is not unlike the refusal to properly place the central figure in illusionistic space, or properly model the flesh of the nude. It’s as though Manet is identifying rule sets and creating a painting exclusively for the purpose of breaking each rule.
Way to pronounce the name of this, Dr. Zucker! I just did my French lessons (and was pleased to understand the title without needing a translation), so I enjoyed that little detail. 🙃 I first heard of this work from that shady art deco channel and the details behind this were presented with much drama, lol. The model of course caught hell for having the audacity to pose this way. The detail about her clothes being near her and the tension that creates was great. I also didn't hear about what this painting was based on... You guys gave a lot of interesting info in your version - I prefer it. ❤
thank you! again you took me to a labyrinth of discovery,,,,found out about rafael's judgment of paris & the many great paintings on this theme, the goddess of chaos, eris? the philo/theo/myth of discordia? enrique simonet's great use of light? Eva Gonzales, only pupil of manet,,,,btw, would love to see a video on any of her work?
I agree that an artist is free to paint in his own way. Manet refused the concepts from the Academy of Arts, and made his own composition inspired mostly by Raphael. He also was influenced by Tiziano’s painting at The Louvre. He was teasing his viewers with his own narrative, far away from mythology or allegorical themes, but modernist for the era.
I love it when it's Dr Beth Harris and Dr Steven Zucker!
"He's giving all the indications that there is a narrative and then not including that narrative". I love that, truly the mark of a genius work of art.
This painting is such an icon in art history. It is great to see this on youtube. So accessible. I love this
This channel is one of my favourite! Cheers guys
I never loved this painting so much, but you all do such a great job talking about it, it does make it more compelling.
I love you guys. You make art critique just as artful as the works you discuss.
That last bit where it is stated that Manet was offering a challenge helps me to understand the choice of the placement of the clothing in the bottom left. Normally, when foreground objects like drapery lay on a surface, you would expect at least some of it to cross the panel border, contributing to the feeling that the space they are occupying is large and open. By keeping the blue of the clothing in the frame, the 2d surface of the painting is reinforced. This is not unlike the refusal to properly place the central figure in illusionistic space, or properly model the flesh of the nude.
It’s as though Manet is identifying rule sets and creating a painting exclusively for the purpose of breaking each rule.
Using these videos to study for my finals! Fantastic channel!
Super good job, I didn’t even like this painting much. But now I see so much more into it. Thanks 😊🙏
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Way to pronounce the name of this, Dr. Zucker! I just did my French lessons (and was pleased to understand the title without needing a translation), so I enjoyed that little detail. 🙃
I first heard of this work from that shady art deco channel and the details behind this were presented with much drama, lol. The model of course caught hell for having the audacity to pose this way. The detail about her clothes being near her and the tension that creates was great. I also didn't hear about what this painting was based on... You guys gave a lot of interesting info in your version - I prefer it. ❤
God I wish I had your knowledge and talent. You're awesome.
Good job again, thanks!
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Another great video!
New Wave band Bow Wow Wow used this painting as the inspiration for the cover of their 1981 debut album.
thank you!
again you took me to a labyrinth of discovery,,,,found out about rafael's judgment of paris & the many great paintings on this theme, the goddess of chaos, eris?
the philo/theo/myth of discordia?
enrique simonet's great use of light? Eva Gonzales, only pupil of manet,,,,btw, would love to see a video on any of her work?
Glad you liked it. We do have an essay on Eva Gonzales: smarthistory.org/eva-gonzales-a-loge-at-the-theatre-des-italiens/
Very nice depiction
I was more impressed by your great explanation than the picture.
I agree that an artist is free to paint in his own way. Manet refused the concepts from the Academy of Arts, and made his own composition inspired mostly by Raphael. He also was influenced by Tiziano’s painting at The Louvre. He was teasing his viewers with his own narrative, far away from mythology or allegorical themes, but modernist for the era.
A very complex explanation.
You've covered this picture before.
Yes we had. But that video was about 6 years old and the the photos were poor since photography was then forbidden in the d'Orsay.