In Repose, THE CURTAIN BOY, Mount Carmel Cemetery - Part 7 - In the "AREA OF THE CHILDREN" (2 of 2)
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At the 7:05 mark, the boy propped in front of a curtain - HE SEEMS AS THOUGH HE MAY BE DEAD. My opinion.
What do you think?
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The Angel face you see is the Haserot, named “The Angel of Death Victorious". The stoic angel is seated on the marble gravestone of canning entrepreneur Francis Haserot and his family. Holding an extinguished torch upside-down, it represents a symbol of life extinguished. Wings are outstretched and the gaze is straight ahead.
IN THE END, DEATH ALWAYS WINS. LEST THE FACES NOT BE FORGOTTEN...
This channel is focused on casually walking and viewing a handful of the thousands of forgotten names and faces at various cemeteries near and afar. Seeing their faces up close. And when able, telling the stories behind their names.
Most graves are unknown and lost to history.
Some are famous.
And some infamous....
....and some with tragic endings.
#Graves #Cemeteries #Death
There are two reasons for not walking over graves. One comes from Medieval times when people were buried in wooden boxes. As the box deteriorated, it could cave in taking you with it. Second, it was considered disrespectful by some religions as you were stepping on the person under you.
The pictures of those young children and babies haunt me. How innocent they are, the pain those parents endured because of their death must have been horrible to say the least.
My mother lost her first born who only lived 45min.after entering this world. She was in the hospital for 10days which was the custom back then and wasn't allowed to attend the burial.
She rarely spoke in it and when I was older I would ask questions about it and she would always say she couldn't remember.
However, she did tell me that she wanted to see her baby and they brought it to her all wrapped up in a nice blanket. She said she unwrapped the baby and checked it all out Such perfection, fully developed 10 fingers, 10 little toes, long dark eyelashes and a head full of dark hair.
I can only imagine the pain my mom went through for all those years. RIP big sister, hope we can meet one day.
This touched my heart. Thank you.
I am sure you will meet your sister when your turn comes. I could never imagine the pain of losing a newborn 💜
I understand this, I was 3 my sister was 18months when my Mother lost her her baby at birth. We still talk about her, and hope to met her one day. x
The Mother & baby, both named Maria, really got me😭😭
These episodes remind me of my granddaughter that we lost. She was 11 days old when she passed. In her memory I wrote a poem but as of yet I have not let her mother read it. I would like to share it with you if you don't mind. Thanks for all you do.
Cadence
Cadence, Cadence I called you by name.
The day you were born I'd never be the same.
In the twilight dusk and with the dawn of the new.
Love found its way and gave me you.
My little girl how precious and so small.
Though for only a moment you were the best gift of all.
The pain has been great and the grief I feel is too.
But so is my love for you and forever true.
God never makes mistakes although sometimes it's hard to see.
Now you rest in God's arms when he set you free.
I know I'll see you once again holding to God who can not lie.
Where there's no more pain and no tears to dim the eye.
By: Eddie Raines
9/30/23
Beautiful ❤
These are some beautiful people that lived long time ago.
I was thinking the same thing
yeah agree, no fake eyelashes fake brows pumped up lips fake hair fake nails .. all natural beauty
Very beautiful people
They look like some alive people I see today
When your forgotten on earth it’s ok cause all your loved ones are in heaven with you
So true. Thank you.
I would have to agree with you🙂
Thats the pure beauty of heaven 🙏🏻
Thank you! Wonderful point.
Youngsters back then died from diphtheria other illness ectra , accidents , drowning , and poor diet , and i am sure many of those kids worked..i am an old nurse who has been around along time and seen it all,,I love your channel...the baby and mother died in child birth in 1921..aww sweet babe...
I noticed from that one that the mother Rosa De Rose died on 17 Ag (August) 1921,aged 30, and then the baby Rosa was born on 13 Set (September) 1921 and lived for approximately 84 days.
I find cemeteries fascinating. The older the graves the more interesting. I also don’t walk over graves because one caved in under me. Creep factor over the top. Most of these in the late 1800’s to 1920’s is the time of cholera, scarlet fever, measles and the Spanish flu. So many children passing at a similar time shows an epidemic.
Sadly is repeating for the year 2020 😭
My son had scarlet fever when he was 14 , 3 years ago, when the doctor said what it was I was like excuse me isn’t that something that disappeared?
I thought the same thing, with the many diseases..tuberculosis as well
@@Cozydozyduds nope, strep throat, if not treated can turn into scarlet fever 🙁
back in the day, having your picture taken was an expensive ordeal, could be that these bride pictures are the only or best ones they had.
Leah-Gaye Mettler or the only one
That’s what I’m thinking
Many of the brides might have died in childbirth because the mortality rate for mothers was very high in those days.
Obstetrics has advanced in leaps and bounds over the years.
I agree
@@brendarawlins9417 Yes, I think there were a few graves which had a picture of a baby and the mother, and the death dates looked to be the same or very close, like perhaps the mother or child lingered for a few days or weeks after childbirth. I wish he'd focused closer or longer in those instances.
Because a woman is “never more beautiful” than on her wedding day.
I love the tombstones with photos. A name means nothing to anyone who didn't know the deceased. A picture brings the person back to life . . . so to speak.
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I'm watching! Enjoyed the 1st part..👍
The only time they could afford the cost of having their pictures taken?
Using the bride picture is to use the picture that represents one of her happiest and proudest times on this earth.
I’m enjoying these as always. Keep up the good work that you do by remembering them!.. God bless!
Thank you for continually going back to Mount Carmel. I am thoroughly enjoying your videos
People need to chill about the walking on graves thing. You are not disenturing remains
You are doing nothing wrong or disrespectful
This Cemetery is so fascinating, you can just feel the sadness, with seeing pictures you begin to wonder who they are and what they did,what kind of life they lived
Omg this cemetery is fascinating
Who they loved what they enjoyed most in life
One of the most enjoyable parts of your videos is the fact that you speak to us, your viewers, as if we are walking next to you. Thanks Ron, stay safe
I love your thought, thank you Mark.
If I do step on where a person is Buried I always say excuse me sorry about that
Me too - my grandad was an old generation grave digger - every one dug by hand - growing up my playground was the cemetery - not morbid just an exciting place to play.
I cannot stand on a grave without apologizing profusely- I still love roaming the odd graveyard to read the histories left behind 😁
Same here💫
It's sad all these children x
To walk on a grave is disrespectful. The people who say that mowers and so on are driven over them, that is work. Stepping on a grave is knowledge that you need to look were your stepping.
I say that too
So sad to see photos of these children once they have passed. But it was common practice back in the day. May they all R.I.P.
Stay safe 👼👼
The bride photos would represent the day the woman looked and felt the most beautiful in her life.
Also photographs were so expensive it’s likely the only photo they had.
So true..the little boy w uniform & hat was so ADORABLE😢😢
In my family pictures of the dead were taken. I was very young and I honestly don’t know how or why it was done. But I know that my mother, God rest her soul, had pictures of her parents taken after their death. I was never shown the pictures. I have no idea where they went. But they were posed and pictures were taken. I didn’t take pictures of my parents when they died.
Wow, makes sense! How lovely 🌹
If you look at post mortem old photos some are standing Ron have a look at the old ones x
Many are forgotten because there are no remaining relatives alive.
I find that sad. Lying in the ground forgotten unless you did something note worthy in your life, to carry you on threw the generations
My grandmother lost a brother and sister aged 4 and 6 back in late 1920’s ,they were buried together. My nana always looked after there grave right up till her passing when she was 92. My mother and my aunts took over and looked after all the family graves but sadly two of my aunts have passed and my mother is nearly 80 and worried when she’s gone who will take care of the graves. So myself and my brothers and sister now take care of it to help my mother out. And my sons and grandchildren nieces and nephews have promised they will take over from us when we’re gone. I’m just thankful for a big family as this has become a tradition to make sure our loved ones are looked after even after death.
@@xxsusie1xx 💛😇
@@xxsusie1xx gosh your poor grandma that lost two siblings. I lost a brother in motorcycle accident. That's tragic enough
bridal photos: A brides photo can often be a womans favorite singular photo in life, her happiest most radiant image.
Gotta love the older graves with there pictures on themselves
I see the year 1925 often. There was a diphtheria outbreak at that time.
I see a lot of 1922 ☹️
I saw the year 1925 often,thanks for information.
There could be any number of reasons why the children died at that time. It is clearly a part of the cemetery reserved for children, or in some cases mothers and their children. On each occasion that a child died in Chicago in 1925 of Italian descent, the family would be offered the next place in the row where children of a similar background are already interred. It is the same in all cemetery's and with all ages. People are usually interred in an area which is reserved for people of the same faith or place of nationality. The families will be offered the next available plot in a row of graves that is still unbroken ground. In some cases, families may have already decided years before that they want to be buried with a long deceased parent or child or maybe even in a mausoleum. Where a child dies at a young age, it may be many years more before the parent passes away... their final resting place may be pre-planned by themselves, or decided by family members of relatives who may not be as particular as to where 'aunt bessie' is laid.
small pox
I was going to say the same thing 1925 is seen often. What diseases were among this time to take so many children. R.I.P my angels.🙏♥️
Children who had not yet made their first Holy Communion were frequently buried in the innocents section of the cemetery. In the days before Pope Pius X, first Communion was delayed until age 12. So, alot of kids under age 12 would be buried in the manner of infants.
Thanks
Then the age for first communion was lowered to 8
@@coffee4dayz19k4 actually, it was lowered to age 7 or the age of reason whichever comes first. My second oldest daughter received Holy Communion at age 7.
7 is also the age where the traditional laws of abstinence from meat on Friday take effect.
Great information 💛
@@terrylynn9984 That is consistent with the time period. Pope St. Pius X died on August 20, 1914. He had decreased the age to seven years old before that time during the height of his pontificate. Thus, your grandparents would have made their first Holy Communion around the age of seven since they were born under the reign of Pope Pius XI.
Very interesting video. Many Italians interred here. Beautiful pictures and beautiful statues. Thank you for sharing this video. Great work! 💛
I think it was STRICTLY Italian actually.
It’s an Italian cemetery LOL
Not walking on graves came from a time when Vaults were not required. It was possible to have older graves collapes inward unexpectedly.
Do they still require vaults?
WAY BACK WHEN..A LOT OF WOMEN DIED IN CHILDBIRTH..
Yes they did , when I first became a nurse 36 years ago I was delivering babies and we still had many die,,not as many of course as back then died due to Strept b , poor diet, placenta problems , hypertension , and the women laid in bed 10 days and developed blood clots,,,I am a MSN RN and have been 36 years and have seen and taught nursing students..luckily today nurses are well trained and babies and moms live now,,,there are always problems but the death rate has decreased significantly...but prenatal care is very important,,,
@@ohmeowzer1 I've worked in hospitals construction for 35 (+) yrs 36 in Feb 2021 and I've seen health care in maternity or other area improvement 100%
@@ohmeowzer1 They weren’t in bed for 10 days only 36 years ago? They sure weren’t here in Europe, that happened longer ago, like in the 60’s, right?
Yes, my great-grandfather had three wives, two of whom died in childbirth in the 1870s.
@@lottatroublemaker6130 you are right
My great grandparents were Italian immigrants they had sixteen children and obviously very blessed only having lost one child. It just seems so many children did not survive. My Gram told us most of the babies passed of pneumonia it was her biggest fear having ten of her own. Very sad.
Something I noticed with some of these graves, they put a concrete strip all the way down on the graves to sit the headstones on. That's a good idea to keep the headstones from sinking in the ground. I've always liked to go to older cemeteries to see all the old stones and how long ago it was when they lived. One of the cemeteries where I live, there are some stones of the first pioneer settlers of our county. One of them in fact was the lawman (police) of that time. I think it's interesting to know that these people were the fist ones that came here and lived here. There is a lot of history to be found by walking around in the old cemeteries. Good video today Ron, I'm glad you shared it with us today.🙂💜
I do the same in old Scottish cemeteries. Sometimes the stones tell sad and fascinating stories.
Greyfriers kirkyard is the best
Lots of Bridal pics because that may have been the only time they had a photo taken. Looks like the children also used their first communion photos too.
For the death photos, many years ago it was very expensive for people to have photos taken, unless you were wealthy, having photos was rare.
Funeral businesses would sell funeral packages that included taking a photo of the dead even catering photo funeral packages for poor families. So for most families, the only photos they would have of their loved ones was their death photo or a wedding photo. The practice of photos of the dead is called memento mori.
That is not true for the Victorian era when pmp were begun. Before photography, the only way people could preserve an image was to hire an artist to paint a photo which only the very rich could afford. With the invention of the daguerreotype photo in 1839, though expensive it was not so expensive the average family couldn't afford photos. It wasn't always easy getting everyone together, dressed and to a studio, and there weren't many photographers in the earlier days of photography. If someone passed before a photo could be taken, a post mortem photo was better than no photo at all, which is understandable. Victorian post mortem photos were not as popular as the internet would like people to believe, and they were quite obvious with decedent lying in repose in a coffin, or bed if the coffin was not yet available. The idea they posed the dead to appear alive, painted eyelids or propped eyes open are myths brought on by the internet and greed. Photos of "standing corpse" sell for hundreds and even thousands of dollars, when in fact they don't exist. TWO photos recently sold for $10,000. That's criminal! Stands were a mere 25-30lbs and only used to help a subject hold still and could not support dead weight.
In the mid twentieth century when funeral homes were really beginning to take off, they did exactly as you mentioned, but that was quite awhile after the Victorian era when taking pmp was begun as a necessity. People would utilize photographers from the home and still had pmp taken, but they usually weren't a necessity. It was the perfect time to have photos taken with family members that lived a distance away. There is a fantastic article regarding the myths of PMP by Susan Cantrell if you are interested.
Bless 🖤
The post mortem photography was popular especially in Victorian times because it is probably the only picture that the family will have of the deceased. I'm not sure when the practice started to fall out of favor.
It's still done today. Look up Now I Lay Me Down To Sleep. They take beautiful photos of babies/young children who have just passed.
Yes and often times you will see the whole family posed in front of the family home and the deceased family member will be in their coffin propped up on end as if standing with the rest of the family. There wasn’t money back then for many families to do family photos. So if they wanted one they had no choice but do it then.
My hubby's cousin did a family history not too long ago. And she posted a couple pictures and the story behind them according to family ancestors. A man with his 10 kids were photographed standing behind his wife's casket as she lay in state. That was followed by a second picture of the same man and the 10 kids with an additional 13 kids standing behind the casket of another woman who was his second wife.
It seems the village elders told the man to marry a woman that they considered an old maid and too old to have kids (she was in her early 20's if I remember correctly) so that she could help him raise his kids from the first marriage.
Apparently the elders were wrong about their 'old maid' since she then had 13 kids 😏
I thought that that was an interesting bit of history
It looks like Rosa died in childbirth and the baby may have been stillborn
That is sad 😢
@@michelehood8837 great research! 👍🏽
There’s a saying: “that when you get a shiver over your body, that means someone is walking over your grave”. I was taught not to walk over the graves of the dead.
Same here!! Shivers, someone walking over your grave. It was disrespectful to walk on a grave.🇺🇸🇺🇸
I agree, but, what about graves without headstones or markers of any kind? There's no way to know... Sadly. I, personally, appreciate every attempt to respect each grave. But sometimes it is impossible.
@QUEEN CLEO
No 😂 I figured someone would misunderstand what I said😂😂
When you’re alive and you get a quick shiver (like your body just shiver like your cold but not)that means someone is walking on your future gravesite wherever your grave will be(which you don’t know)
But when ever we would go to funerals at the burial ground, my mother would tell us not to walk on the graves to go around and that’s what I tell my children. This part has nothing to do with the saying. It’s just out of respect for the dead not to walk on their grave.
@@kristenwilliams3632
If there are no markers or headstones then you’re not walking over them on purpose. You can’t help that.
The hell you say, wow, so that means we're already dead?
All the beautiful children who died so young it breaks my heart, may they all be resting in peace....take care ...Mary in. Canada
Hey there Mary, one of my first subscribers all the way up in Canada. Stay warm up there!! I am in Arizona this week, and then back to Chicago -so I’ll be home like you soon again. 😁😉
The pictures on them back then are better quality than the ones on Graves today
The boys hands are in an unnatural position. I think it was after death photo. Good eye
Sorry he looks very errie idk why sorry again
Agreed I think it is too
Hi Ron, first off may I just say that I love your channel, a true story for you I'm my mothers second-born, my mother had a son two years prior my brother passed away a few days shy of turning three months old, I had never seen any pictures of my brother then one day a relative showed me three pictures mind you I'm already married with my own children by this time these pictures were two of me as a baby, one of my brother in his coffin on the picture the date was Dec/24/1960, my mother seemed to never celebrate that certain holiday, I never really thought about it until the picture then I understood, so now of her first three children those are the only pictures of myself and my brother I also have four other siblings, only one other was a boy, my baby brother he passed a few years back from cancer, we have pictures of my grandfather, grandmother, and an aunt in their coffins, however even though the picture of my brother is in his coffin I"m so grateful to have it because my youngest son looks a great deal like his uncle whom I named him after before seeing the picture, thank you for sharing your wonderful videos I do so much enjoy every part of each one
Photographs back then were an expensive event. Weddings being one of those events as well as death. Most average families did not have the means or opportunity to have pictures taken during their normal life.
I enjoy your vlogs, even though I live in Nebraska. I too wonder about the stories behind each grave stone.
Thank you for your work!
Wml west: I can still recall my greatgrands telling me about the BIG DEAL and cost of any event; of course they were dirt poor farmers who had a hard scrabble just to feed the children! A wedding photo would take a month's income when they added in the cost of new-ish clothes.
It’s interesting that you mentioned walking over graves. For us that is almost unavoidable, however what we do see as taboo, is walking over a freshly buried grave. We avoid them at all costs.
Thanks for bringing us alone for the tour. Soo sorry for all the children that died so young. R.I.P. Angels 🙏🙏🕊️🕊️🌟❤️❤️
Eternal rest, grant unto them, Oh Lord, and may the Perpetual Light shine upon them.
May their souls, and all the souls of the faithful departed, through the Mercy of God, Rest In Peace.
Amen.
Yes I’m thinking that the young boy poised standing has probably passed away. Many times with little babies and children have their pictures taken after they’ve died, because those might be the only pictures the family have of them. Thank you for all these amazing videos you are doing, I’m really enjoying them, it’s so kind of you to remember these beloved people ❤️
I love the history of the normal and celebrity people. It is helping the history of these people live long after they have been forgotten by most. The heartbreak of those left behind, is evident in the ornate headstones etc, is their cathartic way to come to terms with their grief. Thank you for sharing your experiences. I truly appreciate them and I respect all of those you present, to rest in peace.
My mother always told us kids NOT to walk over someone's grave if possible.
It's amazing how well the photos have held up on the old gravestones, and you can really see the family resemblances when the faces are together on the stone.
Super eerie seeing the one with the boy in the casket as the grave picture. Another interesting video I wished was longer, I wanted to keep watching. 😁
Hi Ron 🙋🏿♀️. In this cemetery l like that they have slabs of cement along the Graves. I'm thinking this is probably to keep the grave's from sinking ❓ and to keep people from walking on Them. And I do think that several photos were taken after death. Some of them have some very haunting eyes.👀👁️👁️.
I work in elderly care and when our patients Pass their families usually send us a copy of the funeral service . Any photographs are always of the patient when they were younger . It's incredible to see a patient that we knew as very elderly in a photo taken when they were a child . ♥️ Thankyou for the video .
So sad to see such beautiful babies and children gone way to soon. Thanks for doing this Ron and being so kind and respectful!
Memento more is what the pics of dead are called. A lot of pics on line that show the apparatus used to stand them. Another odd Victorian custom was making funeral jewelry out of the hair of the deceased
They never stood the dead. Didn't sit upright or paint eyelids. Ever. Those are myths.
Thank you for trying to not walk across graves. I'm a southern woman, and was raised to not walk across a grave. The lengths I go to, to avoid that would be comical for someone watching. When I watch videos like yours, I notice that in modern cemeteries, the headstones, for the most part, face east. Older cemeteries like you show, that doesn't appear to have been a thing a hundred or so years ago. Can you, or a subscriber, shed light on when grave orientation towards the east began, and why?
I don't know when it started, but I believe Christian graves face East to face Jerusalem, so they can watch for the second coming of Christ.
@@candieevavold4937 the sun rises in the east, and sets in the west. This represents that all eyes shall see Jesus’ return to claim his people when raptured.
Thank you for posting part 2 for us. The graves of these poor unfortunate children I’m sure have no family left to visit their graves but we’re paying our respects and praying for them. Many have been dead almost a hundred years and thanks to your videos, they are not forgotten. Thank you, Amy
Wonderful video!!!!! So many children, I find it sad that these poor children never had a chance to really live, in a small way you make them come alive again!!!! you have great empathy, thanks for taking me on your journey all the way from Britain!!!! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Wow from G Britain, I love your country, I was there two years ago. I love history and I went to the Admiralty museum to see lord Nelson‘s bloody uniform and other cool things. Also I searched for sir John Franklin and his ships and his crew for 15 years, I found the Erebus before the Canadian government. But anyway -love England. Stay safe over there and have a happy holiday!!
Wished we could know the backgrounds of these people.
I know!! such a mystery!
I’m not sure if it’s true or not , but I was once told that many woman would be buried in their wedding dress.
It would make sense considering for many women, a wedding dress was the nicest, or most expensive dress they'd ever owned.
In some cultures women who died in childbirth were seen as martyresses, and white is the "martyr color" so when white wedding dresses became a thing they were used for that.
@@nikoking825 That makes sense. My grandchild’s other grandmother requested to wear white after her death. It was her belief that she was showing God how she confessed her sins and was clean enough to be able to go to heaven. She was a beautiful, kind woman to begin with. This was in the 1990’s. She was Catholic and had come to the USA from Poland as a young girl. Maybe this has something to do with being buried in white wedding dresses?
Happy Holidays Thanks sooo much for keeping the memories of the forgotten going on for future generations to know who they were!! Thanks 🙏🏽 Blessings
My mother taught me to NEVER walk on a grave. When I went in the Army in 1970 I visited Arlington National Cemetery to pay tribute to the Tomb of the Unknown Soldiers and see the changing of the Guard. Also visited President Kennedy's grave. I remember the day like it was yesterday. I was in my uniform 18 years old as I walked through the gates of Arlington even then, I was immensely overwhelmed seeing row after row of soldiers. I tried to walk among the rows without stepping on the graves. I have to admit being there among so many it gave me the feeling that if you did accidentally a hand would come up and grab your ankle. I think its just a persona of how you were raised. I still to this day try to side step a grave even if cleaning around it.
@Martha Fogelin thank you dear I was watching Walter Cronkite and Geraldo Rivera in the rice fields during the monsoon I was an only child I rolled over looked at my dad who was reading his paper and said I know what I want to do when I graduate. He put his paper down and said what? I pointed to the tv. It was showing a medic bringing a soldier out of the field. When dad got off next day we went to the recruiting office. The rest is history except I had trials getting in😂😂😂
The boy at 7:05 doesn't look like a PM picture to me, but I could be wrong. Genuine PM pictures have the person usually lying on a couch or bed, or propped up in a chair. It's been proven that a body can not be propped standing up, and the stands people see were used to keep the person as still as possible, not used to keep a body upright. Excellent video BTW. Well done and extremely interesting. TY!
Sweet little Tony at 12:49 haunted me. What a gorgeous child. I had to learn as much as I could about him. Turns out he died of an ear infection ( of all things!). After his death, his family never spoke of him again. they even changed their last name but there was never any mention of him in any of the census. It must have been so painful to lose the only son and so soon 💔
@@ritanoel2828 they prob changed their last name due to the anti Italian/ immigrant sentiments at the time. I’d imagine they never mentioned him again because it was simply way too painful. They lost their only son and at such a young age
You never cease to amaze me! Excellent job! I have watched all 7 part's. Blessed earth angel keep up the awesome work! Always watching, Stay safe! ❤
Great vid Ron, one of your best,thanx.
The Italians love the fotos. I lived in Italy and all of the cemeteries were filled with fotos.
Alot of illness's took kids back then things we take for granted today like asprin or flu shots...😔
Yup
Wow! Some really interesting stones! Little Aldo’s stone was spectacular! A round stone with an cherub on top. So touching.
I've just subscribed to your channel and I love what you do, you wander what their lives were like and I bet you there's a few sad stories! Xxx
My first time watching your video. I'm going to subscribe and watch more. I have always liked looking at graves. When my daughter and I go out to see my Dad. We walk around looking and cleaning up other graves. It is interesting and sad when you see graves. Especially the young ones. You always wonder what happened. I enjoy the old pictures like the ones you are showing on here.
Yes we are alike. I don’t know what it is, but just wandering and looking at the names and dates, the pictures especially, and then you stand there and you just wonder what ever happened to them.
The curtain behind children usually covers a parent holding the child up.
INTERESTING. thank you for contributing that info!!
New to channel, really love the content and respect shown. Definitely following
Thanks for putting videos like this together. They are very interesting to see. All from an era gone by. Such respect was given to these people.The same my family has instilled in me. Always remember and honor the dead.
I think the most saddest graveyard I walk tru was in Nova Scotia when the bodies of the titanic were buried, lines and lines of just numbers on the grave no names given ,of course because of the disaster that had occurred.
There was a video of recovery of the bodies, so sad😢
I could watch these videos all day so interesting so many deaths of babies young children and adults would this be the Spanish flu pandemic RIP to all of them stay safe
Don't ever be concerned with taking too long on a detour, or feeling as though you might be boring us. I personally tune in for all that you share and teach us with. So very much appreciated. God bless, and thank you.
Love the work you put in your videos. Merry Christmas 🎄🎁
Hey good seeing ya again ☀️always look forward too your time on here 😃😊🤗
I believe the dead know that you are respectful.
I’m watching this episode and you have said numerous times about the graves no one visits- faces forgotten. Before my mom passed 2 years ago at 98, I had nicknamed her “keeper of the graves”. Each birthday, anniversary of death, and major holiday, she would deliver flowers or arrangements to the graves- her husband (my dad), her mom(died giving birth to her) her father- WW1 vet, her stepmother, and to HER grandparents- 2 sets of the 3- she would also include her favorite aunts and uncles. Repeat, every birthday, anniversary and major holiday. She started this back in 1980 when she moved back to her hometown and continued until age 97. And it made it easy that ALL of the ones mentioned above were buried in the same city. Now the torch has been passed to me to “remember” them as she did and wished. But with one more to add- my mom. Just wanted to share. Love what you do!
your awesome Mom!!
Love your videos! I've always had a fascination with cemeteries because all of those dearly departed have a story to tell. Thanks for what you do.
Definitely a couple of posed death photos and, of course, the coffin one.
I've never seen a baby with a unibrow until now.
These Mount Carmel graves are amazing! Thanks for doing this. I have never seen so many porcelain portraits in one place.
It is very sad that the children are so young when they are taken back home . That says to me that they did what god needed them to do. Thank you for your time and compassion in doing these videos so nobody is forgotten. It is sad enough that someone forgotten in life. Nobody should never be forgotten in life or in passing. Stay safe and healthy. Your video always reminds me of how we should never take life or anything else for granted. Thank you your very much appreciated
I believe if a woman died young or in childbirth, a picture of her on her wedding day was customarily in her obituary and/or on her tombstone. We had the Spanish flu around 1918 and there was a diphtheria epidemic back then as well, early 1920s. The flu epidemic was from 1918-1920 and up to 100 million people may have died, 1/5 of the world’s population. Diphtheria followed on the tail end of the flu, but wasn’t anywhere near as deadly. I believe my grandmother lost a few children to diphtheria as well as having contracted it herself. Grandmother survived, the children didn’t. She had 15 children, 4 died as infants or toddlers, one about 38 years old and the rest lived to adulthood, 10 of them. All gone now.
I'm obsessed with your channel... I grew up going to cemetery's with mom ..
I learned at a young age to respect them ..
I love how you give them a voice again.. even if it's just for a few minutes...
I used to go visit cemeteries with my Mama too. 💔
Thanks for the tour. Nice sculptures, some nice tombstones, beautiful children. Too bad not too many flowers. Guess all the relatives are gone also. Rest in peace beautiful people.🙏🙏🙏🙏🕊🕊🌷🌷🌼🌼🌸🌸🌺🌺🌹🌹🌹🌻🌻🌼🌼🌸🌸🌷🌷💐💐🎄🎄
I just got off of work at 5:15am Monday and I'm so excited to see your walk . You may think I'm annoying but I love your channel your history and stories ❤️
So many beautiful children gone to soon bless x
I personally wouldn't want someone to walk or step on my head stone i think its rude and disrespectful to the dead
I agree that is so wrong.
You won’t be there.
This cemetery is amazing!! Well tended, a time capsule, HUGE, brimming with works of Art/ spectatular monuments, stunningly life-like porcelain oval photos...on & on. Really glad you visit here several times, Ron ❤ Thank you!
I really appreciate these videos! Thank you! Wishing you peace and happiness!
I agree with you regarding walking on graves and stones. I try my best to avoid doing so whenever possible. I think of it as the only respect I can show these long gone people is to try not to walk on or over them. Of course, I understand that mowing equipment and time restraints make it impossible not do so and that others don’t see it the way I do, which is ok. We all do what makes us comfortable. Their days have past, its about us for now.
My mom always said never walk on graves.
Another great video first this I watched this morning even before my cup of tea... until the next one ❤️
You do a Great job. I love to watch your videos. You are respectful and knowledgeable about your video content. Thank You!
Yes the young boy was photographed after death. Both hands look unnatural.
I am actually in the middle on this subject. I was not there, not a witness of course. and I have heard from no experts that were actually there at the time, at the moment.
so how can all these so-called "experts" say that some people were not held up. THEY WERE NOT THERE!! it kills me how people just listen and believe these people just because they wrote it up somewhere or spout off on UA-cam.
I am a registered architect, with extensive structural engineering training and background. I know how things work, I am also an inventor with patents, you can look them up. so I can tell you structurally that it is very possible that these devises could hold a body of if constructed properly. for example, with a cantilevering arm with a weight to counteract the dead weight of the vertical body to prevent it to fall forward, say hidden behind a curtain...even with the guiding assistance of a human standing back there to guide and keep it all steady.
so don't listen not the "expert" and come away as its is always FACT. we don't know for sure. and - THEY WERE NOT THERE!! they don't know. they just squawk what they think, what they hear from someone else, of supposed "authority". hogwash. I have heard hogwash from many people like this which I have thereafter proved factually wrong. like mafia history experts-- who have commented here. they don't know, they just read it somewhere...then they think it is fact. they become an expert overnight. they were not there. no one can know anything for sure unless the person there documented it in person at that time.
I'm so sick of these so called experts -like, this kaitlen the mortician or whoever, SHE WAS NOT THERE IN THE 1800's, come on!! she is spouting off garbage.
Pitcher was expensive and only taken on a big event. Sometimes Marriage and death photos was the only picture taken of a person.
If a funeral home worker told me they didn't think that walking on a grave was disrespectful, I would definitely make sure to never use that particular home. These graves represent people. Their stories and their bodies deserve respect.
I just found your channel and I really enjoy your videos and the history mixed in with them. Cemetery’s are so serene peaceful.
Another way to tell if they are posed in death is if there is a reflection in their eyes. If there is not then it is in death.
No. They weren't posed in death and that certainly wasn't how you could tell.
It's known that the bridal photo was the one that was chosen because that was the nicest dress /outfit owned at the time. They only had 3-4 dresses, mostly worn for working in and one for going to church that was worn regularly. The wedding dress was usually passed down, revamped, taken in or out ect.
Thank you for your fascinating tours and stories
I agree it is very difficult to not tread on older graves, I so try not to. Here in England we don't have so many pictures on headstones. So many babies and children 💕
So many people passed and many no longer have families to tend to their graves, this I find terribly sad.