AOH Reacts to Uncommon: MJ Never Beat Kareem
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2024
- Wanted to add a few of my own thoughts to @UnCommonCents-865 latest video. For people who want to lift one person's career by diminishing another's, we can play this game all day. At least in MJ's case he faced fully healthy rivals in the finals. Whether you think those teams were impressive or not is beside the point because (A) You only think that because someone put it in your head (B) Those are the teams that made it to the finals. Period.
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And kawhi Leonard has a winning record in head-to-head matchups against Lebum
Against curry too. Kathi owns the tens era
Anyone pushing that Kareem was not on the team must think Kareem retired in his 20s. Just goes to show how little they know of the history of the game. Sad.
And if he played, brontards would say he was a fossil by then. Always the double standards
Fun fact- Michael Jordan beat Magic and Kareem at the LA Forum in his first ever game playing there against them in 1984. Also,.. I would take a prime Vlade Divac and Sam Perkins (excellent 3 pt shooter) playing at center in 1991 than an old Kareem. In addition Michael Jordan played Game 3 on of the 1991 Finals with a severely injured foot and had to wear a special shoe for it.
@@comparehealthlifedental Do you think that the 84 Bulls would've beat the Lakers from 84 to 1989 in the final's each of those years?
@@comparehealthlifedental These are people who don't know the game, didn't see it, don't know who Vlade or Sam Perkins are. Don't forget Elden Campbell was a nice young player for them and was had a solid career (not great, not all-star but the combo of Vlade, Perkins, and Campbell was far better than what a possible 44 year old Kareem would offer.) Kareem's last season he averaged 10 pts and 4 or 5 boards a game.
@@brownmid no probably not with the coke head players that he was playing alongside with,. going one on six against those superteams he might have won a game or two, but you give him Patrick Ewing and Chris Mullin from his USA team in place of those loser cok heads,.. or even James Worthy and Sam Perkins from his UNC champ team,..hes doing like he did in the 1984 pre Olympic scrimmages, he's beating everybodys behind including he beat Larry, Magic , Isiah etc.then,... perhaps in 1989 he might have only if not for weak as.s headache game 7 Pippen and his 15 points a game "MJ's savior" lol,.. might not have been enough..
Fun Fact Darvin Ham in 1997 did the slam dunk contest and lebron never did
Ham had some bunnies
Lebum James, a name synonymous with failure, is a player plagued by a myriad of shortcomings. His inability to perform under pressure is evident in his numerous choke moments, crumbling when his team needs him most. He consistently shirks responsibility, passing the blame onto teammates and referees, refusing to acknowledge his own inadequacy.
His stat-padding tendencies are well-documented, prioritizing personal accolades over team success. His lackluster defense is an embarrassment, a gaping hole in his team's strategy. His selfish playstyle disrupts team chemistry, alienating teammates and hindering their performance.
Off the court, his arrogance and self-entitlement are insufferable, poisoning the locker room atmosphere. His constant whining and complaining further exacerbate his negative influence, creating a toxic environment for his team.
Lebum James is a player defined by his flaws, a liability to any team unfortunate enough to have him. He is a stain on the legacy of the sport, a constant reminder of how not to play basketball.
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Well documented for his resume. That's the real LeFraude.
Yet you can still find a lot of people praising how great he is on and off the court.
He trashed the game so much, ruined the NBA, a stain on basketball.
I let kids know.
Let's continue. We can erase this stain!
The more he plays the more he exposes himself. Let's appreciate greatness like they say...
Damn I thought I wrote this. Get out of my mind and stop speaking FACTS 🤣 THEY don't like that ish
Word.
One of the most concise and accurate explanations of LeBron I’ve seen on UA-cam comments. Kudos to you, sir.
By the way, it disgusts me that the arguments made against Magic, Bird, Kareem, Kobe, and Magic don’t apply to LeBron.
Kobe won 3 straight, lost one with Shaq, and they parted ways.
They said he couldn’t win without Shaq, and he made the finals again a mere 4 years later, lost, and Shaq was rapping talking shit.
Kobe then carried LeBron to his first gold medal, and promptly won back to back, not only avenging his loss to the Celtics Big 3 (the original superteam that had already defeated LeBron and Wade, the best 2nd and 3rd players in the league), but also reminding everybody he had one more than Shaq.
2000 to 2010, Kobe won 5 titles and made 7 Finals. Domination.
It's just one of those things. MJ never lost in the finals.
And part of what makes Larry Bird a Goat is that he beat a team with two goats on it. Magic and Kareem.
Kareem is a Goat with a legitimate Longevity argument attached to him but by the time he retired Kareem was severely diminished for playing 20 years of hard basketball + 3 if you count college which I do.
Olajuwon dominated Kareem, Magic and Worthy at age 23 and was the only one to keep them out the Finals in the 80's
@@hakeemolajuwon4352 Hakeem is one of the Goats for sure. Don't you worry though his ranking isn't as high just because of championships in my book.
Kareem is the true longevity GOAT. He played until 42. He won his last FMVP in 1985 vs the stack Bird era Celtics, with Parish guarding him. He won his last finals at 41 in 1988 in the back to back, vs Detroit and played in his last finals at 42, again vs the Pistons. LeBron may not even go to another finals let alone win won, and he's only just turning 40.
People also forget after Kareem left the bucks he went through a championship drought until he got magic
Kareem got eliminated by every dominant center he's ever faced in the playoffs including Willis Reed, 6'9 Dave Cowens, the late great Bill Walton, and a 23y old Olajuwon
Right and yet some prefer to point the finger to MJ as he needed Scottie, so if that’s so, Kareem needed Magic as they won in 1980 but after one season Magic loses a full season for injury and Kareem lost in the first round, next season Magic comes back and they won a second ring, but apparently it’s easier to talk about MJ than Kareem
@@hakeemolajuwon4352 Agreed. I'll add Moses Malone sweeping him as well in the 83 Finals.
Kinda like Shaq
@@Buttington_Headerson Shaq has been swept more times than anybody in NBA history
In 1998 on the way to the finals Jazz swept Lakers. Those Lakers had 4 all-stars on a team: Nick Van Exel, Eddie Jones, Kobe Bryant, Shaq. This just speaks volumes how strong the Jazz were. It took tremendous effort from MJ and the Bulls to beat them, while Pippen was battling injury.
Rick Fox was not an all star.
@@chrispolo25 Sorry, you right. 4 All-stars.
9 out of 12 games between Utah and Chicago came down to the last seconds in the two Finals they played; 4 out of 6 games in 1997 were like this, and 5 out of 6 in 1998.
Not sure why people think Utah was some lesser opponent or team in history.
@@mortenpotzdidler2790 because they want to say Lebron had tougher competition in the finals that badly
@@vectory674 nah.. the Jazz were always being down played even before the James goat narrative really started gaining stream... every finals series Jeff won was always looked at as he, like by himself, dominated all those teams and they never stood a chance... the glazing has ALWAYS been there and still going to this day its just that glazing has to compete against the Lebron James narrative
I used to think it was just basketball, but it's not even that anymore.
That 90's Lakers team is better than many people say. In 1990 they won 63 games. Granted, they were eliminated in the second round, but still, they were bonafide contenders. In 1991, they struggled with injuries during the finals, but by no means they were easy.
They had the best record in the league in 90. Magic was MVP. They lost in the 2nd round to KJ Suns. The team that the Bulls beat in 93 with Barkley
Every time i saw mj on the court with Kareem mj made him look like statue period!
He was nearing 40 at that point.
@joshportie mj rookie year Kareem was 35 mj won his last title mvp an fmp at 35 but you right so how would he have made a difference at 44 in the 91 finals?
I recently watched AoH's video 'The three men who were tricked into playing with Michael Jordan' - definitely worth a rewatch
They don’t respect the goat enough. They will make up excuses to discredit his greatness. That just shows how good he was. He was TOO good
Speaking of the Jazz They beat a Shaq, Kobe Eddie Jones team two seasons in a row. I know people will say Kobe was inexperience but Shaq still had Eddie Jones who was just as good as Kobe at the time. Not 2000 Kobe
I wouldn’t go that far. Del Harris just didn’t want to play Kobe so Jones was getting more minutes and touches. Ask Jerry West who was better that year. But they did have Van Exel as well.
Yep. I’ve mentioned this in other episodes. The Jazz went through a lot of serious teams to get to the finals
Facts. Swept a team like the Lakers with 4 all-stars. For perspective, Luke and Kyrie couldn't sweep the Wolves. What I've noticed is that hindsight is 40/20 with the MJ bashers. They just dont get that this is a guy that 3 peated twice and perspective, he's the last guy to legitimately 3 peat since Bill Russell since Donaghy has already confirm the LAL SAC job.
@@meg-k-waldren because they cant relate at all they're not hoopers who knows how to play so they just repeat whatever they hear from talkshows. refs are part of the game they can only influence the result if the players let them so lakers still legit 3peat at least factually. champions dont let the refs affect them unless they are being carried of course.
Definitely a coaching/experience issue. Lakers were already a playoff team on the back of van exel/campbell before shaq jones fox, horry and kobe arrived. That team was loaded but was always like a 4 seed.
Lebron defenders always point out how stacked the teams were that beat him in the finals. Now we need to use who Jordan faced in the finals from the West as a way to diminish his GOAT argument?
And the teams that beat him and his teams were almost always blowout series. Bunch of gentlemen sweeps and full on sweeps dropped on his head.
Isiah Thomas was injured in the 1988 NBA Finals when the Pistons were up 3-2 and in game 6, Thomas twisted his ankle in which he was on crutches, and Magic won with Isiah Thomas still playing injured. In 1989, Isiah Thomas won and when the series was starting, Detroit was up 1-0 and in game 2, Magic got hurt with the hamstring, Detroit won game 2 and in game 3, Magic went out on the court, started to play, played a couple of trips down the court, couldn't go, then he was out for the rest of the series and Isiah Thomas won 4-0. So when Magic was injured, Isiah won; when Isiah was injured, Magic won -- so that's Isiah Thomas vs. Magic Johnson in the NBA Finals...they are 1-1 against each other, case closed.
Should be 2-0 Pistons , that phantom foul in game 6 ,‘88 Finals gave the Lakers life
@@jeromerozier872 Yeah, the business and league has always been against the Pistons, the people saw it all over the country -- everyone SAW THIS that Detroit won but the REFS and business of basketball said, NOPE!... So this is 1988 and 1991 -- same thing in '91 when the Pistons were forced to 'step aside' and let Jordan win, then break up that team for the sake of 'the business' of basketball.... Thomas was instrumental in helping Jordan but Jordan never saw it and came with the disrespect.
@@plainsimple244yawn as usual egg brain
@@jeromerozier872cry harder
@@plainsimple244 As a real diehard Warriors fan, if there is a team that I would most be happy winning a championships besides the Warriors, it would be the Detroit Pistons. I mean one championship in the city of Detroit is worth 3 rings cuz the league don't want the Pistons to win cuz it goes against their agenda.
You and 2Raw the only ones that pointed this out 💪🏽
Damn, you know his haters got nothing if they trying to nitpick and go that far to find something bad to say about MJ lol
Aren't you the one hating on black people?
Excellent point regarding the Pistons AOH !!! I remember when Magic injured his hamstring at the beginning of that series .
You are not black
You hear the story of Wilt playing pickup vs Magic his rookie year? He didnt even let their squad get a shot off. Blocked every one.
But like most Wilt myths, there's no proof
@@hakeemolajuwon4352 it was not magic's rookie year, and while there is no video proof i am aware of, magic himself has talked many times about those runs at ucla, and has acknowledged that wilt shut down everyone on magic's team after he didn't like a call magic made.
@@laz0rama all Wilt's myths are just talk
@@hakeemolajuwon4352 believe what you want. i am old enough to have watched wilt play, even saw him live in that 1972 season (when he was admittedly past his prime). i don't know what myths you think are just talk, but go ahead to talk to the players that played against him. even those 60s celtics players that usually beat him, they will tell you about "myths" and facts.
@hakeemolajuwon4352 All your hate implies wilt was doing it no proof needed. I've seen enough of the proof you must be sleeping or not know how to research much.. 😴
In 1986 Olajuwon dominated the defending champ Showtime Lakers with Kareem avg 27ppg, Worthy avg 20ppg 5rpg, and Magic nearly averaging a triple double with 22ppg, 8rpg, 2.5spg, 16apg!! Olajuwon gentleman swept them and only lost to the Celtics in 6 games of the Finals cuz Sampson decided to act like a punk
Fun fact. Houston could have traded Sampson to Portland and gotten MJ and Hakeem. But decided to keep Sampson who wasn't a bad player.
Be quiet smooth brain
@@nonamewillbegiven8838 eat your veggies little buddy
@@hakeemolajuwon4352 yawn lil fella
@@nonamewillbegiven8838 yet here you are a week later with the most brain dead comments
Looking back on it I think the reason they took MJ off of Magic for a time was that MJ was getting too many fouls guarding Magic, so they swapped for a bit to keep MJ from fouling out.
'89 Lakers are what cost Riley his coaching job in LA. He over worked the team. Byron got injured during the workouts and Magic, who was sore from those work outs, got injured in game 1.
Worth and Scott were hurt in game 3 I believe
Good point
And series ended in 5, so it's not like Lakers were without them long. But I always like to take it back to the Bulls. Cats like to say 25 - 32 yr. olds 1991 Pistons were old, while 1998 3 peated Bulls were 30 - 37 yr olds.
Cats like to say one player here got hurt late in a series vs. Bulls. Well in 96 playoffs MJ played with a bad back the whole time and Kukoc wasn't healthy until the ECF...
Then in 97 playoffs Rodman knee injury hampered him for 3 rounds until the Finals...
Then there's 98 playoffs where MJ the entire time had the dislocated finger and later Pippen bad back...
And who can forget 93 playoffs MJ having the wrist guard from 1st Rd all the way to the Finals.
My point being only in a cartoon world are both teams in the finals absolutely 100%.
No! They only sat out game 5 when the Bulls were already up 3-1. The Bulls went up 3-1 against a complete Laker squad including Worthy and Byron.
Thanks a lot!! Love this
Scottie shutting down Magic is some sort of Mandela Effect, people are falsely remembering it because Scottie turned out to be a very good defender post 1991 title. So people thought he must have shut down Magic during their Finals matchup.
Please do a full episode on that Pippen/Magic matchup because these turds who never watched a minute of that finals, just highlights and regurgitating what others say.
He did multiple videos on it, they're pretty in-depth and funny as well
Love this. You two should go live together
I started watching the NBA in fifth grade 1986. When I watched Celtics were a great team. Lakers were a great team. Pistons were a great team. Blazers were a great team. Jordan was always the best "player" in the NBA. He finally got a few solid role players and that was it. Kareem was over the hill when I started. He'd shoot a hook every time and missed more often than not. Kevin Mchale tour him up along with every other post player from 86 til he retired. I got tired of watching Jordan annihilate every one in the 90's that I rooted against him. Penny Hardaway and the Magic had the most potential. Then greed and ego's sent the league into the "crap" it is today.
in my days ppl solve a dispute on the court
nowadays they talking all about the game and not watching or playing it its hilarious
Why didn't MJ just get in his DeLorean and go back in time so he could beat the Milwaukee Bucks with young Kareem and Oscar Robertson 1:45
AOH... now you know the NBA couldn't afford TWO conference sweeps lol there's money to be made.
🤑 big game right here
I completely ignore Isiah Mr. Sexual Harassment Thomas. 💩
I never saw a guy that wants more credit than he deserves like him. Kareem came into the league in 1969 and MJ🐐in 84. Based on the way they built teams back then the chances of them meeting in the Finals with a 15 year gap in between the starts of their careers was slim. Although they did meet in the regular season and it went 4-4. Also when the Pistons beat the Lakers in the 89 Finals Kareem was 41 years old. 😂😂😂😂
One players rookie year was 1969 while the others was 1984 .......what are we even talking about .
If it wasn't for Magic Johnson Kareem Abdul-Jabbar would only have one title and that was in Milwaukee😂
😅you know why they called Kareem Captain? Cause it was his team...he lead the team in scoring bro, not Magic.
That is a ridiculous take. Kareem was the MVP and the best player in the world in 1980.
How about the fact that Magic first title, came with out Kareem
Kareem was actually voted the 1980 FMVP AFTER Magic's great game 6 but because Kareem was not present the voters were asked to change their votes so magic would get the award. See "Kareem" pages 140-141 for what really happened. Kareem is why LA won the other 3 games. Kareem clearly outplayed Magic in games 1,2,3, and 5 of that series.
aoh could you check as well the game 6 of the portland finals where mj got "benched"
"It's just basketball" proves today's players do not give a shit about the game in any way.
Why Kareem can’t be compared with Mj: Kareem has monster Prime stats.. but also consider the circumstances:
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The 1971 Bucks, however, faced a sub-50 win team in each of the 3 rounds in their title run including the Lakers without Jerry West and the 42-40 Bullets with Gus Johnson missing half the NBA Finals. The 1972 Lakers defeated the Bucks with an injured Oscar averaging 9 ppg for the series and the sub-50 win Knicks without Willis Reed, who won Finals MVP in both 1970 and 1973 while defeating the Lakers both times. When the two teams that are generally considered the "best" of that era played such weak competition, that says it all about the quality of the era as a whole.
The competition was so poor in 1976 that Kareem became the only MVP in NBA history to win the award despite missing the playoffs. When the best player in the league can't even make the playoffs, that says a lot about the quality of the league as a whole for that particular season. In fact, Kareem is the only consensus top 10 player to miss the playoffs twice in his prime, doing so in 1975 and 1976. Likewise, when the best player of that era missed the playoffs twice in his prime, that says a lot about the quality of the NBA in the 1970s as a whole.
The following players were amongst the best of the 1970s, but spent a good amount of time in the ABA during that timespan, leaving a much weaker and watered down NBA for other players to compete in.
Rick Barry - 1968/69 - 1971/72, did not play in 1967/68
Artis Gilmore - 1971/72 - 1975/76
Billy Cunningham - 1972/73 - 1973/74
George Gervin - 1972/73 - 1975/76
Julius Erving - 1971/72 - 1975/76
David Thompson - 1975/76
*This would be akin to Jordan competing in a league without Isiah, Magic, Drexler, Barkley, Payton, Stockton or Malone for a large chunk of his career, except for the fact that Jordan's group of competition was of far higher quality overall to begin with*. The 1970s had a severe dearth of quality NBA competition to begin with, and having to compete with the ABA weakened it even further
Be quiet smooth brain
I think the 1991 Lakers were better than the '89 Lakers because old and slow Kareem slowing them down. I believe the documentary series was trying to give Scottie some flowers because they focused on the "lowlights" of his career in Chicago. They don't even mention the games that he and Jordan both scored over 40 points or the playoff game against the Knicks when he had 27 points to lead the team to their first victory in that series in 1993. Scottie became a great player because of Jordan but he is a bit overrated by Jordan haters.
Kareem was 44 by then...
I have a simple point: the man can’t play forever!!! Kareem was 40 in the Celtics series. Smfh.
In fairness to the Pistons they got robbed in ‘88. A phantom foul called on Laimbeer sent Kareem to the line and that was it.
Lakers were going to get the rebound regardless and the Pistons still had a chance after that foul which was a soft foul. Weak excuse
@@sideshowbobsaget8876… how is an excuse if it actually happened
Pistons would've been the first team to 3 peat aides the Russell and Mikan era if it weren't for that BS ghost foul.😂
Yeah, the Bulls really only beat the lakers because they didnt have a 42 year old that would have been averaging under 10 ppg and 4 rebs. Do these people even do the most surface level research into their talking points? Kareem was the 5th scoring option on that team before he retired. He would have been the 7th or 8th option on the team the next season
Make up an episode # the way the LeBron media makes up stats to support him.
Yall can call me crazy, but I think MJ's closest competitor was John Stockton. John and Karl are the only all-star players to face MJ twice in the finals. Those Jerry Sloan teams were always competitive and always in the playoffs. They knocked off some great teams and came up short for a long time. I will never forget the shot over Byron Russell and how it cemented Jordan's legacy; it must therefore also cement the team he shot it over for the 2nd time. Who else has the caliber of grit necessary to compete on the highest level like MJ?
That just shows you how stacked the West was
Phx knocked on the Lakers off in 1990 4-1 than that lost to Portland in the WCF.
Le Balsky fan based is just bunch of kids. Lakers in 91 got 5 players averaging 11+ points. They got another all star in Worthy, Magic, Perkins 14 a game, Divac. Magic was just 32 back then. That was supposed to be a sweep. BUlls that yr just really elevated their game. Sweeping the Pistons the previous yrs champion as well.
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I wish someone would send this video to Robin .. because he diminishes jokics championship because he played Miami ….when Miami beat Boston … go figure
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He said Isiah Thomas never beat the lakers at full strength we'll neither did Magic. I was a die hard laker fan "at the time" and the pistons truly won us the year when the refs bailed out Kareem. LA was healthy that year. They called a bad call on laimbeer on kareem. Even I was like man i guess the ref really respects all the years Kareem has been in the league and possibly wanted us to win. They gave us that one. On top of that Isaiah was playing hurt for two games. His adrenaline kept him going the first game but it wasn't their the next game his ankle was swollen very bad. Same goes for MJ. He didn't beat Isiah either at full strength either in 91. Isaiah's shooting hand was messed up bad that year and the proof goes to looking at the year's states before the 91 season and year after. Other players weren't 100 percent either. The pistons beat boston at full strength and almost beat them the previous year if Thomas didn't throw the ball away to larry bird. They would've won against the lakers if that call which coach pat riley said wasn't a foul with a hurt Thomas. We can't take credit away from them beating great teams when they were 100 percent man they were just great. I knew the next year we played them that we weren't going to win because they truly won us with a hurt Thomas. The Bulls were winning teams too regardless and the pistons were the only team keeping them down. No sorry team would've been keeping Mike down like that. The Bulls never face great teams like the 80's Lakers, Celtics, or Pistons in the 90's. Nobody is going to pick divac over 1987 Kareem. Lakers won 5 championships with him. Name one team who was as great as one of those Celtic's, Pistons, or Laker's teams from the 90's that the Bulls beat in the finals. Please. In my opinion Mike is the greatest player I've ever seen regardless but he still didn't face any great teams in the 90's that anyone would bet their car or house or bank account on.
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Try harder trolll
Salty Pistons homer still mad about 91. Love it
@@jeromerozier872be quiet smooth brain
@@nonamewillbegiven7228 Having a logical debate is trolling, let me guess "LEFTIST LOONEY RIGHT?
Might as well say lebrons mickey mouse ring is even less relevant because he didn't play against Dwayne Wade
Bad boy le media talking points of just bitter 70 legends like george gervin Julius irving that nba set up mike meaning top nba offical commissioner then on down they change the rules for jordan and people with similar skillset for one one play yarda yarda etc.... yes but the league was most physical late 90 early 2000 but the 94 rating was worst then what we have today so yes nba is a business not a sport entertainment
Who started this conversation anyway? I mean what kareeem not playing in finals have to do with anything? This is like if MJ didnt retired in 93 would he won two more rings….
The Lakers were not fully intact in the 91 finals. Worthy was playing injured and Worthy was pretty much a non factor. Just pointing that out for clarity. The Bulls still would have won that year even if the Lakers were at full strength and 40 plus year old Kareem wouldn't have made a difference against the great Bill Carthwright. lol. It wouldn't have mattered the year before either against the dominant force of Kevin Duckworth. *snickers*
Worthy avg 19ppg in the 91-Finals. No it wouldn't KAJ was washed by 88 when the Lakers won the chip. Divac was a huge step up.
And Thomas never beat Smush Parker!!!!
I rewatched the 1991 and it was true Pippen lockdown Magic through switch courtesy by their coach’s decision Phil Jackson.
No you didnt cause no he didnt
Ridiculous, what a reach. Retirement is one thing, now injuries are the victors problem? How about missed game winners? Are they going to say Jokic never beat the Lakers when LeBron didn't miss his shots? That the Mavs never beat the heat when LeBron didn't choke?
Someone besides LeBron is the GOAT? But So and So lost games! He didn't have a 100% perfect record!
Lot of revisionist history. Vlade in 91 was putting up better numbers than Kareem in his last playoff run. Jordan and the Bull 5-5 against the Showtime Lakers.
Lecrybaby never beat Dirk
Isaiah kept forgetting that magic was injured when he says he beat bird, magic and MJ.. thanks AOHF..
MJ never beat Wilt or Bob Cousy either.
Try harder
Wilt or Cousy never beat MJ either🤦🏻♂️
The Portland Trail Blazers didn't defeat the Lakers the year before. In 1990 the Lakers were defeated by the Phoenix Suns in 5 games. A big factor being Kevin Johnson torching the Lakers.
That never happened when Kareem was there either. They always had good teams but Jabbar's presence forbade their advancement.
I have no agenda and am not confused as some people are. The Bulls never beat the Showtime Lakers or the great Celtic teams. Just a fact. Jordan played as good as an individual can play in a team game. 1 man couldn't control it in the 1980s. That decade was a level higher than anything we've had since regarding strength of the teams. They were deeper, stacked with multiple all stars with quality players coming off the bench.
The Lakers were powerhouse but so was Boston, Philadelphia and the Milwaukee Bucks. In the the San Antonio Spurs were loaded. The East Coast Media Bias may put a hit out on me for clarifying this. Any team with George Gervin, Artis Gilmore, Johnny Moore and the explosive Mike Mitchell as well as Gene Banks will be a 🏆 contender. The Bulls would have their hands plenty full with Milwaukee and San Antonio from certain periods of that decade.
Not a knock on Michael Jordan as a player but I draw the line on the full on hero worship.
I never saw a player more dominant in every facet of the game than Mid to late 70s Kareem. He altered every part of the game on both ends. He didn't have Jordan's or even Erving's flash and marketability. That's it. He literally carried the late 70s Lakers on his back scoring 43+ pts 4 times in one series against the Warriors not to mention the 20+ rebounds 5+ blocks. Still LA barely won in 7 games. The next round he scores 40 on the great Bill Walton outplaying one of the greatest players to ever play but that wasn't enough in a team game. Portland had an outstanding team and won the championship.
If one guy could do it trust me Jerry West would be walking around with about 12 rings instead of only 1. Look at the man's performance in those pressure moments.
Kareem passes the test, Jordan passes the test, West passes the test, Lebron doesn't even enter my thoughts.
You have no faxts. Try harder trolll
There is no hero worship here so keep being salty about Jordan trolll
@nonamewillbegiven7228 I don't know faxt is. Make sure your sober the next time you throw a tantrum. If you think what I wrote is an attack on Michael Jordan then you obviously have a hero worship complex. Deny it but you just exposed yourself.
I got bad news for you Space Jam isn't a documentary. Your not a child anymore somebody should have told you.
If respecting Kareem Abdul-Jabbar makes me a troll then great only wish I could say whatever got your panties in a bunch right to your face. You wouldn't do anything. Being me I'd probably take pity on you and drag you to an AA meeting or maybe an MA. You need Michael Anonymous.
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Jordan probably is the GOAT but lovers like you give fans like myself a bad name. It's OK I've been paying for guys like you my whole life.
I touched a nerve wanst even trying to. I guess you personalized Hero Worship. Then try to tell me no hero worship.
I enjoyed this channel and I wasn't taking a shot at you or anyone. Don't worry you have one less subscriber. Don't melt down again.
Go outside once In awhile.
@@the_Sage71 try harder trolll
See, and that's the problem when you hear these guys saying stuff and people only take for face value like it's the gospel, i.e... Isaiah Thomas👀
@AOH, I just watched this highlights video, and Scottie did put the clamps on Magic in game 2 of the finals series.
ua-cam.com/video/y9OIekC43ek/v-deo.htmlsi=QYOCvFhJqdfCpnRk
Nope
Aoh the Lakers would have swept the pistons in 89. The injuries were the Factor. And still the Captain and big Game James kept fighting. F..k the Bad Boys
How would they have swept them when they lost the first game with Magic playing , y’all don’t comment with ya heads , only ya hearts
lebron fans and jordan fans are the same they’re apologist and deluded in their own right. this channel isnt better than a lebron jock sniffing channel. you guys just fight on the opposite side 😂
AOH has critical thinking skills, HUGE difference
List the things that Jordan needs to be criticized for and make a video about it
Cry some more