Sharpening Old W.Marples & Sons Chisel
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- Опубліковано 30 бер 2019
- Short movie showing process of sharpening an old Marples & Sons beveled paring chisel. The steel in those (old Sheffield) chisels are unique quality. Name "Cast Steel" on old Sheffield chisels refers to steel made by the crucible cast steel method, invented in Sheffield around 1740 by Benjamin Huntsman (1707-1776), a clock maker from Doncaster.
Huntsman's experiments in crucible steelmaking began in 1740 and over the next two years he developed the simple method of purifying Blister steel by letting it in clay crucible pots. Blister steel had many imperfections and Huntsman wanted to create a better quality steel for his clock parts.
Benjamin Huntsman was a clockmaker in search of a better steel for clock springs. In Handsworth near Sheffield, he began producing steel in 1740 after years of experimenting in secret. Huntsman's system used a coke-fired furnace capable of reaching 1,600 °C, into which up to twelve clay crucibles, each capable of holding about 15 kg of iron, were placed. When the crucibles or "pots" were white-hot, they were charged with lumps of blister steel, an alloy of iron and carbon produced by the cementation process, and a flux to help remove impurities. The pots were removed after about 3 hours in the furnace, impurities in the form of slag skimmed off, and the molten steel poured into moulds to end up as cast ingots. Complete melting of the steel produced a highly uniform crystal structure upon cooling, which gave the metal increased tensile strength and hardness compared to other steels being made at the time.
Huntsman's process was the first to produce a fully homogeneous steel. Unlike previous methods of steel production, the Huntsman process was the first to fully melt the steel, allowing the full diffusion of carbon throughout the liquid. With the use of fluxes it also allowed the removal of most impurities, producing the first steel of modern quality. Due to carbon's high melting point (nearly triple that of steel) and its tendency to oxidize (burn) at high temperatures, it cannot usually be added directly to molten steel. However, by adding wrought iron or pig iron, allowing it to dissolve into the liquid, the carbon content could be carefully regulated (in a way similar to Asian crucible-steels but without the stark inhomogeneities indicative of those steels). Another benefit was that it allowed other elements to be alloyed with the steel. Huntsman was one of the first to begin experimenting with the addition of alloying agents like manganese to help remove impurities such as oxygen from the steel. His process was later used by many others, such as Robert Hadfield and Robert Forester Mushet, to produce the first alloy steels like mangalloy, high-speed steel, and stainless steel.
As a boy in Yorkshire, England I watched my father sharpen many W.Marples, Robert Sorby and Ward and Payne Chisels planes, spokeshaves and draw-knives, these tools had been handed down from my great grandfather, one or two came from my Great-great-grandfather. My father used no jigs to sharpen chisels, it was all by hand, the ancient sharpening stones were lubricated with Diesel or '3 in 1 Oil' . My father stropped the chisels on his hand, they could split the human hair two times. These men were shipbuilders and cabinet makers, barrel makers and wood carvers. There is no longer these skills, nor the quality of Sheffield steel. my ancestors are deceased and i inherited the tools which will pass to my son and grandson along with the story. Thank you for these great videos
When I sharpen irons, chisels and anything else I set the whole day aside just to sharpen. Watching the edge become sharp and polished is so RELAXING to me! Next to the first cut with a freshly sharpened of course.
Working in that workshop = Died and gone to heaven!...................Northmen videos are number 1.
I know, who wants to build a purpose built, sharpening table now? This guy.
Another wonderful video illustrating the honor and dignity associated with working with one's hands. Thank you for sharing.
Nicely said. I am also in love with the beauty of hand craft and woodworking. And natural light in a wood shop is to die for.
Blessed is the man that has these skills. For he will prosper.
Brings back memories of working with my father and grandfather, they sharpened Marples, Ward and Payne and Robert Sorby chisels by eye without a honing gauge. They used fine oil or diesel on their stones. I still have chisels from 4 generations of my family. I enjoy all your videos, thank you.
This is a shining example of why western culture thrived into apex societies. Pride not in our things but rather what we do with them. The work that can be done with them, to better the world.
I have that exact chisel in my workshop, British steel, best in the world.
Your history of the "steel" process in the video description is priceless. It totally brings one to understanding of the "soul" of the piece you hold in your hands. Thank you for sharing! !!
Nice always love watching these!!!
Really enjoy these videos. Thank you.
Wow! Awesome workshop!
I always get a lot of inspiration from your videos and this one did not disappoint. Thankyou!
Videos like this sooth my soul
Love the message at the end
Honor old tools - They have a spirit
The code of my life....
I can feel the smell in that workshop by just watching the video.
Precision on another level....
Awesome!! Thank you for sharing with us.
My dreams’s woodshop 😍
love watching you guys work such craftsmen.wish we could see more of John Newman
Awesome video. I bet that workshop smells so good.
Great relaxing video!
total zen.. thank you!
Beautiful
Very satisfying
no word where spoken but it spoke a million words
Makes me want to dress up and sharpen my tools by hand too.
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Wow, what a beauty! Here you can even assemble a flying saucer (UFO)!
Thank you
Is there someone still making Natural Grindstones? Are you able to do a documentary about the Stone extraction and the making of a grinding wheel? Back in the days they were a must-have, maybe One of the most basic tools every man needed
Ardennes Coticule still makes natural wetstones, the catalogue from "pierre-a-aiguiser-naturelle" also contains wheels but I have no experience with them. On "bosq.home.xs4all.nl" there is a good read about natural wetstones, sandstones their history and how they work. Hopefully you can find what you are looking for there.
@@BaukeHaagsma thank you, i really apreciate.
I Hope northmen Will make a documentary about this topic
we still do almost everything linked to crafting and work with iron & steel traditionally in Morocco actually just couple days ago I asked a blacksmith to bring a new natural Grindstone with him when he come back from the countryside which I will be getting tomorrow :DD
Thanks for the touch of history and class. I just love the old water stone, where in the world did you find her?
Yes, watching the old school style is satisfying. Were those diamond stones and then a leather strop?
Now thats a old school tormek
Definitely a process, but beautiful one
I have the set of Marples chisels my dead father bought in the late 1950's, still going strong and capable of carrying an edge to 'pinging' hair cutting sharpness. :-) Not that I have great use for them these days...
Great video! I just love your shop. I've heard this sentiment that "tools have spirits" expressed from other sources as well. If I may, I would like to suggest that tools are merely made of natural materials and don't have spirits. However, I do believe that there is something spiritually beneficial and altogether humbling in restoring/maintaining/using old tools. Keep up the great work northmen!
for bible believers either Muslims Christians or Jews spirits can get into anything even what y called " natural materials " as for believes we believe the first Human was created by God from Clay and if you want to exprience it search for any hunted house in your town and you'll see how they use materials to hide
I'd argue that "spirit" as in the religious concept is fiction.
However, most old tools were made by hand, many were built, maintained and cared for by their user. In a sense, tools are organs fashioned from materials found in nature (chisels are much like a beaver's teeth), and tools that have been used for decades carry the imprint of the people who used them.
@@iotaje1 "imprint" like a residuum of the users DNA embedded into materials?>> Like a hand-me-down chair that has been in the family for generations? Or a "residuum of spirit', or just worn indents from the grasp of the long time user?
@@corvusduluth I'd say both. When you work all day long using a tool, sometimes cutting yourself, you probably leave quite a bit of dna on the porous wood surface.
DNA isn't all that interesting tough, what's more interesting is the wear that characterises years of repeated movements and handling. Like someone's imprint in a seat.
How does one get into working in a smithy/workshop like this? Northmen videos are my favourite videos.
Great video. What camera do you use?
Yes they do.
The Tormek mk. 1 was bigger than I expected!
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Oilstone sharpening is more fun with these vintage chisels.
Oldschool Tormek!
Ahh the sounds of the serial dislikers bruising their thumbs LOL
Always great content guy's keep up the great work
As taught to me by my dad, I use the same process but not quite so many grades of stone, the final strop is essential though.
what the final is exactely ? it seem like a past applied to a stone
@@IXIskarfaceIXI It's a polishing paste applied to a strip of leather, just the same as a barber's strop for a razor.
It takes the wire edge off and gives the best finish to the edge.
Some think sharpening is tidius, but me I see it as tlc to something that is helping you compleet a mission or a job.
"Only dasani wets my sharpening wheel" lol
Hi, sorry I’m a little late to the video. I just found your channel. May I kindly ask what the hand clamping device used to hold the chisel is called? I’d very much like to obtain one.
I think the one demonstrated is probably a little better (easier), I have not see it for sale, perhaps someone will offer a suggestion. An alternative using the same principle is sold by Veritas.... (Mark II I think is the model)
What kind of oil do you use with your whetstones?
Kerosin may be?
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beautiful, I wish I had so much free time on my hands...
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OK. Давно не было видео :-) всегда жду .
Я тоже жду ихнии видео
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Is your ring from Latvia?
It's the ring of Namejs (Nameja gredzens), the origins of these rings are dated back to 12th century and they are made in Latvia.
Good night to you what lubricant is used with the finishing stone? Thanks
Oil
If you mean the very last process then I believe it's a leather strop and an abrasive paste is applied to the coarse side of the leather
The belts are always cool but you could stand to put some belt clutches on so you dont have to run all your tools to run one tool
black arkansas is finer than translucent you should switch's the order of your last two stones i started sharpening on arkansas about a year ago as they are more than sharp enough to shave they just glide through end grain on even the hardest of the woods i own
His chisel at the start is about as sharp as my sharpest chisel... guess I gotta get sharpening
Jacques Botha It’s totally worth sharpening even brand new chisels. You should check out Paul Sellers video on chisel sharpening. That’s where I learned to sharpen mine.
I heard of shaving with a razor, I heard of shaving with an axe, I heard of shaving with a knife, but I never heard of shaving with a chisel
Nice video, but if you sharpen something on different stones, you'd better clean it after each one of them, because the slurry on it contaminates the finer stone with bigger grains from the previous one...
thanks for the advice.
Not if they're diamond stones
Not enough to matter.
Perfect, where is your video?
@@thetradesman7478 I wouldn't bet about that. The big grains being above the smaller ones limit their action. They damage the finer stone as well. They eventually find themselves trapped in the stone, stay there, and completely change the grits it is supposed to have. I know that from sharpening straight-razors, which I've done a lot.
I have that exact same Chisel with a slightly shorter handle, and it works better then all my other's.
Fine work sharpening that young man.
(You really need fewer stones though.)
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Sharpening a chisel, never done that before. Next up, sweeping out the shop.
Nice video but an unneccessary amount of stones. I just use a double sided coarse and fined grit diamond stone followed by a leather strop with polishing compound, still end up with a hair shaving chisel!
Cant knock you cuz thats how id do it. But i think this is more about keeping old traditional ways alive
@@prepcooksurvive5807 Back when it was easier and more common to have 11 grades of stones. The good old days.
Why have you not uploaded in such a long time Loving your channel
@@prepcooksurvive5807 Wow. Thanks. I'm working on a series that should start in May. Stay tuned. And thanks again!
Im just looking at bits now new subscriber ere
Why sharpening from side-to-side for finer grits and using oil for the sharpening? Tradition? Because as far as sharpening goes, those techniques are less than optimum. Beautiful shop and photography tho
Traditionally people would use a wet grinding wheel made out of sandstone, a whetstone (long live secondary bevels) and a strop.
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There was no doubt that it would shave hair, but you had to go for the money shot anyways.
Thankfully there are still some real Men left
why use a sharpening jig when you have a hollow grind? And the jig is set so it's only touching the edge. Then he freehands it without the jig, forcing him to balance on the exact edge or risk rounding it over. I'm sure it's sharp, but that's a lot of fiddling about for nothing, when he could have just balanced on that big hollow grind in the first place without a jig and stayed precisely on the same angle without fussing.
I’ll never understand you folks. The content you guys produce is unparalleled. You have nearly 300,000 subscribers with so very little effort. I can’t imagine how popular the Northmen Cooperative brand would become with regular content. You do yourselves, your fans, and those who have yet to discover your wonderful work, a terrible disservice.
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Wow! Much snob! Very waste of time!