Just a quick note - as I have the 5400 - if you hit the “clean” button on the front of the Philips, it will rinse out the milk frother so you can put it back in the fridge
The Philips absolutely has the clean the latte go feature. I clean every time I use it. Push the clean button and select “Quick Rinse”. It rinses the coffee path when you turn it off.
I have the delonghi, and let me tell you in it’s first 3 months, it’s probably done around 720 double espressos! Yes I know I drink way too much coffee but I work from home 😂 it’s only thrown the de-scaler light once, and the filter twice. Obviously continuous tray empty lights with that use. But it’s been genuinely great! For the price point, and a touch of a button I don’t have any complaints. Choose your beans, stick them in. 👌🏻
I just bought the 5400 a week ago. Not sure if it's just in canada and US but Philip's have me an extra 3 years warranty brining it up to 5. More of a reason to love this machine 😀
Not sure what she is talking about but the Delonghi is not loud at all. Also the Philips does have a clean function for the Latte go. Great machines bad reviewers who fail to know the product they are revewing.
I own the Delonghi Evo, with milk frother. I really love this machine. I like how the Evo looks better than the other one here. Personal choice... I had opened my old Delonghi to do a maintenance thingy, and was very impressed about the build quality inside.
Thank you for the comparison. Would help if you both would have sampled the coffee from both machines and then given us a verdict on the taste. Without that you are only tasting the coffee from one of the machines not knowing what the other just produced !
Hi Heeru. Coffee taste is very similar. Sorry we do these so often and should always do this on camera. You are right. Given the taste is subjective to most people I never realized how important that was on UA-cam. You wont go wrong with either machine.
Before I had made a choice in one of the two, I drank a cappuccino and an espresso from both machines to see the difference. The Delonghi Magnifica Evo gave a much better taste. Okay, the Philips has more options, but I don't use the options that the Philips provide, so if you are really a cappuccino and espresso fan, just go for the Delongi brand, you won't regret it, have been using it for 2 years and are very satisfied.
So many video's on how to, but no one showsyyou how to use the ground coffee part of machine, how to use. If I have beans in the tray how do I use the ground coffee, do have to push something or simply put ground coffee in and machine uses thise beans rather than grinding beans? Philip's 4300
@@swisstrader No. Presure brew is espresso brewed. K Cups are low pressure more drip style. You are getting coffee with Crema from an espresso machine.
I recently got myself a 5400 (imported from UK) also had to get a step-up transformer for it, kind of sucks that you can't find the 5400 in states... but I'm absolutely loving the Philips.
Can you add basic maintenance reviews to you videos? How easy to access, wash, reinstall the brew unit, for example. How long does decalc take. Hiw difficult to get to typical items that need cleaning periodically?
I have one but my coffee machine will not work no coffee comes out it a Phillips I manually pump milk were water is I slid that out open side compartment is seized up
Her: "Cheers big ears" Him: "I don't have big ears". Her: "It's Australian". LOL, his reaction. She's absolutely correct. It's an Australian saying when you're toasting drinks.
I would have expected a more detailed comparison between the milk foams the produce. Personally I have the philips, but the milk is frothed, not micro-foamed… which is a big difference! I want to know if the delonghi milk frother does micro-foam or it’s the same as philips
@siracussa I got the DeLonghi with the manual milk wand just so I can do microfoam and do some latte art which is impossible with the milk jug. It's also much cheaper with the manual wand.
A couple years ago I bought the Senseo pod coffee maker and the coffee was beyond weak even after we tried a good number of pods and ended up just donating it. I was all set to buy the Phillips but now knowing the Phillip and Senseo are one of the same, wondering if the 4300 makes a decent cup of coffee.
I have the Phillips 5400. This machine grinds the beans and steams the milk nice and hot. I absolutely love this machine. I believe the other one you were referring to has pods. That is a totally different type of machine.
@@Catpeach6931 how is your 5400 holding up after a year of making this comment. I am looking between the two machines in the video. I never drank coffee until I started doing clinicals in hospital as a student.
@@diegobonaventura8501 What are you talking about , ceramic grinders are always better because steel grinders can burn coffee and change it taste ....
I would like to have some comments of loudness of both grinding and brewing, that is very important in my household, have Philips 2200 and is extremely loud
The noise level is the will be the same on the 4300, and very very close on the Evo... Check out our video on the noise levels of different machines here: ua-cam.com/video/JioCqLl9IWQ/v-deo.html
Thanx. Do you have comparison on Philips 1200 vs Delonghi - Magnifica Evo Bean to Cup Coffee Machine - ECAM290.21.B. ? I had a Delonghi for 7 years and after 25000 (yes!) cups the brewer packed up - very good value. But I am considering the Philips, now. Philips wasn't available back when I bought the Delonghi. I don't need the milksystem - only drink americano.
We don't have a comparison between these two machines! However, the specs seem similar to the 4300 in terms of coffee quality! On the 1200 series machines you need to froth your own milk.
Philips EP5144/70 is really sucks. I just bought that machine and have a software problem in Turkey. I cannot install aquaclean filter and philips is not helping and protecting their machine in here. Too bad for them.
The Philips doesn’t have an “iced” setting. But to get and iced americano on this machine pour a shot of espresso over ice and add cold water, to get an iced latte, pour a shot of espresso over ice, and add cold milk 😊 Happy brewing!
Great video!!! Was wondering if its possible to activate the steamer independently after pulling an espresso shot? So that the milk can come after the coffee and not before?
@@mircea1947 fyi your shot would sit and get bitter if you did this. But it’s not a function here. You would want a machine that has the capability to heat milk and pull a shot simultaneously which will not be in this price bracket.
Which is the best? Are you late for delicious coffee? Just because I had a delonghi dedica lever machine, the coffee was macera, I didn't like the coffee, it didn't taste good either, bosch tassimo made too strong coffee, now I have a nespresso too frothy, too strong or too much butter or too fun... I've had a couple of coffee makers. ..I don't want to spend all that money.. Now I have an automatic machine, which delays good coffee..
You should have opened up the machines and shown the brew units. The DeLonghi one is much better, same one they use in their top of the line models. Sturdy and simple to clean. Philips brew unit is flimsy plastic.
Exactly! Wendy, please show us the brew groups. It sure looks like a re-skinned Philips with a different set of buttons/menu and different software (simple, simple to do...). Jasper, are you saying the brew group in the Delonghi is made of metal and not plastic?
DeLonghis brew unit is also plastic , but better quality and very simple to clean. I have a Magnifica Evo my self and it’s very good. You have to accept that it doesn’t have fancy digital display, that means you might need to look in the manual when descaling or other things you don’t do that often. It really doesn’t matter that it doesn’t have profiles or many settings - I like that you just push a button and it makes great coffee at the right temperature.
Is there any way to remove the milk section and add a steamer wand? I know you can get a model with the steamer but just curious if you can add one to this?
In most of the new automatic machine reviews I've seen the quality of the americano and size of the result output is never described. I've had a Jura E8 for the last 12 years and my normal drink is a 12-16 oz americano in a standard coffee mug (4"-5" height) with nice crema. A desireable additional feature to be able to produce the milk drinks automatically when desired. Are any of the current automatic machines priced $1000 US or less able to do this?
I have the delonghi and would summareise it as: terrific coffee, terrible milk. As my second foray into superautos after having owned a Lelit Elizabveth V3 during the pandemic, I'm not sure I'd go with the Evo again as the milk system on the Evo is inferior to the Eletta model I used to have before my semi autp. The Eleta produced really creamy, cafe quality milk but the Evo froths the heck out of it and even burns it. Think 80s Italian cap with almost no flavour. This was particularly noticeable after coming from a manual wand on a proper espresso machine where I learned the right temp and texture. I was open to some compropmise but the Evo's milk system is simnply not enjoyable. Fortunately I'm mainly an espresso or long coffee drinker and this machine does a great job at both. The only other advice I would giv buyers of this category is that all superautos are made of plastic and therefore cant get quite as hot as traditional semi automatic machines. If you use any beans roasted medium ligfht or above in terms of roast development you may end up with a sour coffee no matter what. The big, expensive machines made of metal actually get hot to touch and that aids thermal stability and the extraction of flavours. Also, users tend to have very sophisticated grinders that would cost as much if not more than these super autos here. People roasting coffee fall into this catgeory, and so it's important to look beyond the label and ask your roaster upfront what theyd recommend for a home superauto machine. Coffee selection is key - you want something fresh but that the roaster has labelled 'for home use' as that is normally a sign the roast is more developed and therefore more able to be easily extracted/brewed by at-home equipment. If you really want lighter roasts, fret not - just grab an affordable Aeropress and hand grinder combo in addition to your superauto and you won't miss a thing. It's that simple that I am kicking myself for having previously gone down the expensive semi auto 'rabbit hole'. I'd love to try the Phillips for comparison's sake. I'm already wondering which brand I'd buy next - again, nothing bad with the Delonghi's coffee, just not impressed with the newer milk system on this model.
Depends on where you are. I like the warranty with Delonghi better in Canada. Other than that pretty comparable. Overall build on Delonghi seems to be a bit better IMO
I know , they decided to rip us off here in US . I thought about buying delonghi dinamica in Europe ( I'm European my self ) and either buy step up transformer or replace onboard power module with us version .
Good choice bought the Philips 3200 along with 3 of the most crema making beans and Im very disappointed barely no crema on the Philips, returning it this weekend for the Delonghi EVO
5:51 why doesn't anyone pay attention to color differences? I think the darker one is more intense and tastier, Philips probably has too large holes and does not hold pressure, it doesn't matter that he has a lot of options if he makes weaker coffee.
What is this thing they call americano? I saw one guy asking for such thing in a coffee shop and they pore hot water in a perfectly done espresso and gave it him.😂. The kicker is he looked perfectly happy 😂
Yes it's an interesting drink that came from North Americans going to Europe and asking for a coffee. When given an espresso many complained they wanted a full cup. So the baristas simply added water and hence the term Americano:)
Just a quick note - as I have the 5400 - if you hit the “clean” button on the front of the Philips, it will rinse out the milk frother so you can put it back in the fridge
The 4300 also has a cleaning function for the milk frothier.
You can adjust the temp of the water on the Phillips 4300 and the clean button is on the button panel for both....
The Philips absolutely has the clean the latte go feature. I clean every time I use it. Push the clean button and select “Quick Rinse”. It rinses the coffee path when you turn it off.
Agreed, I use the clean feature every time I have a latte…
If you are doing a review video, you should know these things! He comes across as not knowing much about these units. Thank goodness she was there!
I have the delonghi, and let me tell you in it’s first 3 months, it’s probably done around 720 double espressos! Yes I know I drink way too much coffee but I work from home 😂 it’s only thrown the de-scaler light once, and the filter twice. Obviously continuous tray empty lights with that use. But it’s been genuinely great! For the price point, and a touch of a button I don’t have any complaints. Choose your beans, stick them in. 👌🏻
The Phiilips 4300 has also a cleaning option for the latte go milk system
Wendy has an elder sister vibe when she hosts all videos with Neil, so entertaining and funny at the same time informative.
Nice job, people)
I just bought the 5400 a week ago. Not sure if it's just in canada and US but Philip's have me an extra 3 years warranty brining it up to 5.
More of a reason to love this machine 😀
Not sure what she is talking about but the Delonghi is not loud at all. Also the Philips does have a clean function for the Latte go. Great machines bad reviewers who fail to know the product they are revewing.
I own the Delonghi Evo, with milk frother. I really love this machine. I like how the Evo looks better than the other one here. Personal choice... I had opened my old Delonghi to do a maintenance thingy, and was very impressed about the build quality inside.
The build quality inside is great!
Delonghi Magnifica Evo is a winner, much easier and beautiful looking and tasting drinks!
Thank you for the comparison. Would help if you both would have sampled the coffee from both machines and then given us a verdict on the taste. Without that you are only tasting the coffee from one of the machines not knowing what the other just produced !
Hi Heeru. Coffee taste is very similar. Sorry we do these so often and should always do this on camera. You are right. Given the taste is subjective to most people I never realized how important that was on UA-cam.
You wont go wrong with either machine.
Taste is subjective , what works for one is horrible for another.
Could you compare it with the 5400?
Philips, like the DeLonghi, has a quickie one button washout function for the milk carafe
Philips looks more user friendly. Glad i went with it.
Thanks for the comparison.
Before I had made a choice in one of the two, I drank a cappuccino and an espresso from both machines to see the difference. The Delonghi Magnifica Evo gave a much better taste. Okay, the Philips has more options, but I don't use the options that the Philips provide, so if you are really a cappuccino and espresso fan, just go for the Delongi brand, you won't regret it, have been using it for 2 years and are very satisfied.
Would love to see a video comparison on Philips Seaco Hran Aroma vs Delonghi Macnifica Plus?
We dont have the Aroma in Canada unfortunately
Many thanks for the comparison. How about the mills? There is quite a difference in between mills too.
So many video's on how to, but no one showsyyou how to use the ground coffee part of machine, how to use. If I have beans in the tray how do I use the ground coffee, do have to push something or simply put ground coffee in and machine uses thise beans rather than grinding beans? Philip's 4300
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So does the Phillips do a decent cup of coffee as well? Wife is a big coffee drinker, while I’m more about lattes and cappuccino.
We think so. But remember it is pressure brewed coffee, not drip
@@ecscoffeeinc very helpful. Is pressured brewed same as what they use w k-cups?
@@swisstrader No. Presure brew is espresso brewed. K Cups are low pressure more drip style. You are getting coffee with Crema from an espresso machine.
How about Philips 5400 ?
I recently got myself a 5400 (imported from UK) also had to get a step-up transformer for it, kind of sucks that you can't find the 5400 in states... but I'm absolutely loving the Philips.
Can you add basic maintenance reviews to you videos? How easy to access, wash, reinstall the brew unit, for example. How long does decalc take. Hiw difficult to get to typical items that need cleaning periodically?
I have one but my coffee machine will not work no coffee comes out it a Phillips I manually pump milk were water is I slid that out open side compartment is seized up
Her: "Cheers big ears"
Him: "I don't have big ears".
Her: "It's Australian".
LOL, his reaction. She's absolutely correct. It's an Australian saying when you're toasting drinks.
Thanks guys very helpful :)
Our pleasure!
how does this match to the De'Longhi Eletta Explore?
If I wanted to make a Latte with Ristretto would that be possible with the Philips?
I would have expected a more detailed comparison between the milk foams the produce.
Personally I have the philips, but the milk is frothed, not micro-foamed… which is a big difference! I want to know if the delonghi milk frother does micro-foam or it’s the same as philips
The Delonghi is definitely closer to a micro foam :)
@siracussa I got the DeLonghi with the manual milk wand just so I can do microfoam and do some latte art which is impossible with the milk jug. It's also much cheaper with the manual wand.
A couple years ago I bought the Senseo pod coffee maker and the coffee was beyond weak even after we tried a good number of pods and ended up just donating it. I was all set to buy the Phillips but now knowing the Phillip and Senseo are one of the same, wondering if the 4300 makes a decent cup of coffee.
Compeletly different brewing methods. One had pods and this is fresh beans. Much better than the Senseo
I have the Phillips 5400. This machine grinds the beans and steams the milk nice and hot. I absolutely love this machine. I believe the other one you were referring to has pods. That is a totally different type of machine.
@@Catpeach6931 how is your 5400 holding up after a year of making this comment. I am looking between the two machines in the video. I never drank coffee until I started doing clinicals in hospital as a student.
The difference in te noise is because DeLonghi has a steel grinder and Philips a ceramic one.
What's better for build quality?
What’s better?
Steel. As the ceramic starts slowly deteriorating
@@diegobonaventura8501 thank you!
@@diegobonaventura8501 What are you talking about , ceramic grinders are always better because steel grinders can burn coffee and change it taste ....
Which is quieter?
The Philips is slightly quieter, but it is barely noticeable!
I would like to have some comments of loudness of both grinding and brewing, that is very important in my household, have Philips 2200 and is extremely loud
The noise level is the will be the same on the 4300, and very very close on the Evo... Check out our video on the noise levels of different machines here: ua-cam.com/video/JioCqLl9IWQ/v-deo.html
Thanx. Do you have comparison on Philips 1200 vs Delonghi - Magnifica Evo Bean to Cup Coffee Machine - ECAM290.21.B. ? I had a Delonghi for 7 years and after 25000 (yes!) cups the brewer packed up - very good value. But I am considering the Philips, now. Philips wasn't available back when I bought the Delonghi. I don't need the milksystem - only drink americano.
We don't have a comparison between these two machines! However, the specs seem similar to the 4300 in terms of coffee quality! On the 1200 series machines you need to froth your own milk.
Philips EP5144/70 is really sucks. I just bought that machine and have a software problem in Turkey. I cannot install aquaclean filter and philips is not helping and protecting their machine in here. Too bad for them.
Sounds like a dud. :( of a machine
Aykut makinadan memnun musun,delongni daha mantıklı gibi geliyor bana?
What about grinder? If I am right Philips is ceramic and Delonghi is stainles steel?
That is right! :)
How does the Philips handle iced coffees' and cold frothed milk?
The Philips doesn’t have an “iced” setting. But to get and iced americano on this machine pour a shot of espresso over ice and add cold water, to get an iced latte, pour a shot of espresso over ice, and add cold milk 😊
Happy brewing!
My 4300 has a quick clean option
Do either of them do good regular black coffee?
If you are looking for drip style coffee neither machine will produce a drip coffee!
@@ecscoffeeinc ?? I know the Philips does for sure. The DeLonghi I ended up getting... and returning. It grenaded itself on the 5th espresso cycle.
@@LordSmashington The Philips will produce an americano, but not drip coffee. But this machine is a good option if you are an americano lover :)
Great video!!! Was wondering if its possible to activate the steamer independently after pulling an espresso shot? So that the milk can come after the coffee and not before?
On the Evo model with the panarello yes. With the latte crema you cannot.
@@ecscoffeeinc thank you so much for your reply. Happy holidays l!
@@ecscoffeeinc what button should I press to pull the milk after the Expresso shot?
@@mircea1947 fyi your shot would sit and get bitter if you did this. But it’s not a function here. You would want a machine that has the capability to heat milk and pull a shot simultaneously which will not be in this price bracket.
No seal on the bean cover Delonghi? Really?
Which is the best? Are you late for delicious coffee? Just because I had a delonghi dedica lever machine, the coffee was macera, I didn't like the coffee, it didn't taste good either, bosch tassimo made too strong coffee, now I have a nespresso too frothy, too strong or too much butter or too fun... I've had a couple of coffee makers. ..I don't want to spend all that money.. Now I have an automatic machine, which delays good coffee..
Hi ECS COFFEE, do you sell those coffee machines used or open box by chance? do you ship it the US?
You should have opened up the machines and shown the brew units. The DeLonghi one is much better, same one they use in their top of the line models. Sturdy and simple to clean. Philips brew unit is flimsy plastic.
Exactly! Wendy, please show us the brew groups. It sure looks like a re-skinned Philips with a different set of buttons/menu and different software (simple, simple to do...). Jasper, are you saying the brew group in the Delonghi is made of metal and not plastic?
DeLonghis brew unit is also plastic , but better quality and very simple to clean.
I have a Magnifica Evo my self and it’s very good. You have to accept that it doesn’t have fancy digital display, that means you might need to look in the manual when descaling or other things you don’t do that often. It really doesn’t matter that it doesn’t have profiles or many settings - I like that you just push a button and it makes great coffee at the right temperature.
We will do so in the future. The EVO brew group is different from the usual ones we find in Delonghi machines. Can't say which is better to be honest.
The Phillips one is super easy to clean.
Is there any way to remove the milk section and add a steamer wand? I know you can get a model with the steamer but just curious if you can add one to this?
No you cannot unfortunately
If you had to use the steamer wand, then it would no longer be fully automatic. This machine does everything for you. That’s the beauty of it!
On these super automatics can you use real cream instead of milk in their automatic frothers? I tend to use heavy whipping cream in my coffee
It is not usually recommended to put a heavy cream into these machines as it will be more likely to clog however a half and half cream would work! :)
In most of the new automatic machine reviews I've seen the quality of the americano and size of the result output is never described. I've had a Jura E8 for the last 12 years and my normal drink is a 12-16 oz americano in a standard coffee mug (4"-5" height) with nice crema. A desireable additional feature to be able to produce the milk drinks automatically when desired. Are any of the current automatic machines priced $1000 US or less able to do this?
Look at the new Jura E4 for the Americano but it does not do milk. Tough in that price point to get everything
I have the delonghi and would summareise it as: terrific coffee, terrible milk.
As my second foray into superautos after having owned a Lelit Elizabveth V3 during the pandemic, I'm not sure I'd go with the Evo again as the milk system on the Evo is inferior to the Eletta model I used to have before my semi autp. The Eleta produced really creamy, cafe quality milk but the Evo froths the heck out of it and even burns it. Think 80s Italian cap with almost no flavour. This was particularly noticeable after coming from a manual wand on a proper espresso machine where I learned the right temp and texture. I was open to some compropmise but the Evo's milk system is simnply not enjoyable.
Fortunately I'm mainly an espresso or long coffee drinker and this machine does a great job at both. The only other advice I would giv buyers of this category is that all superautos are made of plastic and therefore cant get quite as hot as traditional semi automatic machines. If you use any beans roasted medium ligfht or above in terms of roast development you may end up with a sour coffee no matter what.
The big, expensive machines made of metal actually get hot to touch and that aids thermal stability and the extraction of flavours. Also, users tend to have very sophisticated grinders that would cost as much if not more than these super autos here. People roasting coffee fall into this catgeory, and so it's important to look beyond the label and ask your roaster upfront what theyd recommend for a home superauto machine.
Coffee selection is key - you want something fresh but that the roaster has labelled 'for home use' as that is normally a sign the roast is more developed and therefore more able to be easily extracted/brewed by at-home equipment.
If you really want lighter roasts, fret not - just grab an affordable Aeropress and hand grinder combo in addition to your superauto and you won't miss a thing. It's that simple that I am kicking myself for having previously gone down the expensive semi auto 'rabbit hole'.
I'd love to try the Phillips for comparison's sake. I'm already wondering which brand I'd buy next - again, nothing bad with the Delonghi's coffee, just not impressed with the newer milk system on this model.
Which one do you recommand? I am torn between the 2 machines..
Depends on where you are. I like the warranty with Delonghi better in Canada. Other than that pretty comparable. Overall build on Delonghi seems to be a bit better IMO
Which one grinds finer?
AFAIK Delonghi has stell grinder while lattego has ceramic. So the score goes to Delonghi here. :)
$1200 machines are “entry level”?
In the superautomatic world yes!
The 4300 also doesn't have a double shot function I believe. That last option is for 1X or 2X drinks.
It does in Canada but could be different on different models worldwide.
It does have the double shot function as well as it has the quick rinse function that these guys said the 4300 doesn’t have
Guys go always for the De Longhi the internal system is SO MUCH better
Do you know the maximum amount of grams of coffee per brew? Temperature of coffee?
Sorry we do not, The brewer is a bit different than the usual brewer in Delonghi's. Typically you are getting between 10-15 g . I will try find out.
I called Phillips...the 4300 comes with 2 year warranty...and an additional 2 years if you register your product
what grind settings were you using for the machines?
It was out of the box settings. Honestly they may have been adjusted since so I cannot give an accurate answer.
@@ecscoffeeinc No worries, thank you. Still trying to dial mine in.
Hi, which machine makes the cappuccino hotter than the other machine
We did not do a temp test on these but they are going to be very simiilar.
Nice review, just a question, is it possible to have a cappuccino with ground coffee with both machine? maybe to use decaf coffee? Thanks
Yes they both have a bypass for ground coffee
1200$ ?!? This machine costs here in Belgium 450 euros
I know , they decided to rip us off here in US . I thought about buying delonghi dinamica in Europe ( I'm European my self ) and either buy step up transformer or replace onboard power module with us version .
Bought the Delonghi Magnifica Evo today, really hoping it turns out great. They look similar, but i guess the phillips has a few more options
Good choice bought the Philips 3200 along with 3 of the most crema making beans and Im very disappointed barely no crema on the Philips, returning it this weekend for the Delonghi EVO
@@dominictomasino5198 are you happy with delonghi after 1 year? I’m wondering hows the long time performance for it.
That seems like a big hassle
Абсолютно безполезно и лигаво ревю.
5:51 why doesn't anyone pay attention to color differences? I think the darker one is more intense and tastier, Philips probably has too large holes and does not hold pressure, it doesn't matter that he has a lot of options if he makes weaker coffee.
Really? I would think the opposite
What is this thing they call americano? I saw one guy asking for such thing in a coffee shop and they pore hot water in a perfectly done espresso and gave it him.😂. The kicker is he looked perfectly happy 😂
Yes it's an interesting drink that came from North Americans going to Europe and asking for a coffee. When given an espresso many complained they wanted a full cup. So the baristas simply added water and hence the term Americano:)