It looks like there's been some more discovery on the midi control for this Zoom pedal, has there been an update to the firmware to support toggling on/off the first 3 effects in a chain? This uses SYSEX though and I'm not sure if these controllers have SYSEX functionality programmed in.
Fully supported? It looks like you basically just replicated the tap function for the one-way scroll of the patches. Most of us have a separate tuner. So if you already have one-way scroll through of the patches with the center switch on the Zoom, why do I need an external MIDI switch? If it scrolled back in addition to forward, that would help. If it switched from patch to effect chain mode, allowed you to scroll left to right and switch on/off any individual effect, that would be beneficial.
Totally agree. Unfortunately preset up and down + tuner are the only MIDI CC / PC messages the MultiStomps will respond to. Other features such as effect select, tempo set, etc. are only accessible with MIDI sysex commands and that goes a little bit past what these controllers can do. If you don't want a separate switch, that's totally cool. You can still use the memory function on the MS pedals to step through a list of patches. But one big benefit of our controllers is that you can go directly to any patch in any order / random access. And then you can also combine that with other MIDI devices using the 5-pin DIN or 1/4" MultiJack interfaces and have your whole rig change at the same time.
@@DisasterAreaDesigns Wait a minute, you mean you can have the patch selector go both down and up? Back tracking would be very valuable (not available on base unit, just one-way). All the previous Zoom pedals had this capability with the two left-right foot switches. The one-way ticket on patch selection is why these pedals were probably discontinued. They did have crippled midi, could have been updated/upgraded functionality with an exterior footswitch, but they chose not to. Everyone else is hardwiring in and using left and right effects selection, but to use it rquires a couple of presses that are needed making quick punch in and out (needed for live playing) almost impossible.
in the video you show how to do the command Bank up, what about the command bank down? is it possible to switch from A to B and then B to A? plus what do you mean with no saving and do the operation every time? every time i plug the controller i have to set the bank function? Thanks
Not sure what you mean about A to B / B to A. The DMC can select any of the 50 presets on the Zoom units in any order. You can go up or down as you see fit, and you don't have to reprogram. The DMC saves the configuration in its memory for you.
The larger controllers work the same way - the Zoom must be used as the "A" device, and you can access program changes and the tuner over USB. If there's something specific you'd like to see with the larger controllers we're happy to post a video, but otherwise it would be exactly like this one! Thanks!
Alexander Pedals thanks for the msg. I understand it only changes patches and tuner function. I was hoping to see a controller access patches by assigned switches instead of scrolling up and down. I was hoping to have possibly 8 custom presets “scenes” and have it laid out where 4 preset switches are bank 1 the go to bank 2 and there are 4 more presets. Is this possible? Thanks again.
I'm 100% sure if it is USB midi, but if this worked with a Yamaha THR10 that would be awesome. Changing patches with a footswitch would be super handy.
I've been using this for a while. All this stuff still confuses me. I just use it to scroll through my presets (when the DMC powers up i get out of playlist mode and go straight to controlling A device... I think). Seems like you can make a 'playlist' in zoom though and then scroll through that playlist from the DMC? How did you guys do that? The presets scrolled out of order in the Zoom as you went through the playlist on the DMC. Cheers While I'm here, I have the DPC-8EZ too. Is there usable a way I can control both devices through the DMC? Whether DMC controls both simultaneously or separately.
Great vid, will this method happen to work with the Source Audio One Series pedal, like the la lady overdrive? Or would that require a firmware update? Awesome devices!
Just get the Neuro Hub. It's totally worth it if you have a few One Series pedals. The Hub counts as *one* MIDI device and takes a regular 5-pin. If you only have one SA pedal, then I'd imagine this would work. Did you try it?
Hi, I have a doubt. When I connect to the zoom, it generates a lot of electrical noise. I have connected the GMC to 300 mA but it still makes a lot of noise. it has a solution? thanks
I've just purchased a DPC-5 Gen 3 to control 5 loops and a ZOOM CDR-70 in my amps FX loop but I am having some issues with digital noise when connecting over the USB host connector so could do with some tips if possible.If I just use the USB host to power and control the ZOOM it works great and there is no issue with noise whatsoever. Plugging the guitar directly in the front of the amp it works fine.When I connect the guitar input and output (no loops engaged) to the DPC-5 with the zoom being powered by the DPC, there is a very loud digital whining noise and it's unusable. I'm using isolated outputs from a voodoo labs PSU. Removing the USB cable to the zoom and powering directly from the voodoo labs power supply it also works fine so seems that there is an issue when using the audio path in the DPC-5 and the USB to the zoom. I've tried several USB cables and all have the same issue. Works fine on its own but loud digital noise when using the DPC audio path and the zoom. Also, the digital noise changes when buttons are pressed on the DPC-5. All my cables check out good so could do with some advice on how to fix this.ThanksAndy
Hi there! Try powering the Zoom with the external power supply while having the USB connected - that tends to correct any digital ground loop noise present.
Hi, I've tried this with powering the zoom connected to an isolated PSU with the USB connected and the DPC with its own isolated connection and re-powering the system but the issue still exists unfortunately and I get a load of digital noise. Is there any other things to try? It works fine with and without a separate PSU attached to the ZOOM with zero noise and the zoom is controlled correctly by the DPC. Its only when plugging into the audio path of the DPC I get the issue.Thanks
Apakah alat ini bisa membuat on/off rangkaian pada pedal zoom multistomp...?? Misalkan membuat on/off rangakaian pedal no 1 ,pedal no 2 atau pedal no 3...???
When scrolling memories/presets, along with scrolling forward-from A to B etc-, can it scroll back, so from C to B to A? also, I saw in an earlier comment that you are working on a new USB hub. I am looking forward to more news on that!
Disaster Area Designs did the gHost converter support it? I've seen a video of someone using a DA pedal to control 2 separate Zoom Stomps. I'm still CRAZY for my dmc-3xl gen 3. Such a powerful unit, thanks for
Gotcha! I didn't finish my last sentence - I was going to say thanks for creating and supporting such fantastic pedals. Is that the Grape Soda finish on that pedal in the video ?! I'm glad to see that you are doing your part to make America Grape again!
i guess Im asking randomly but does anyone know of a method to log back into an instagram account? I somehow forgot my password. I appreciate any assistance you can give me
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The Zoom stuff doesn't support CC commands except for tuner on / off. You can use some more complicated SysEx commands to do those tasks but it's a bit more complicated than a simple CC message.
Yes, USB mini-B OTG. If you bundle the adapter with your DMC, we charge about what you'd pay on Amazon, etc. but we do test them thoroughly to make sure that they actually work.
Hey guys! I am working on a new board, and I’m wondering if you can help me out. I am trying to control a Line 6 M5, a Zoom MS, and a Syntax Error. Is there a way to make the ES-8 control the Zoom through one of your other controllers? (And also control the M5 and Syntax?)
Actually there is - you can use something like the DMC.micro as a USB bridge. You'll need a slightly custom MIDI cable (or use the DMC MIDI Y cable we sell) but that's all it takes. You can then use the MultiJack on the DMC.micro to control the Syntax Error and the other end of the MIDI-Y to run to the M5. Easy.
For the Baby they'll work in either direction. For our other Gen3 products they must connect this way, so it's easier to just recommend this across the board.
Hi, is there a mode available where you can go through the presets and only change it when u want? Like going from 1 to 4 without having to listen to presets 2 and 3. Thanks, I'm really interested in that controller
@@DisasterAreaDesigns thanks! Do you always have to hold down the left button to search? Isn't there a mode where you just go through the presets and press a button to activate it when you want and then do it again without having to hold down the left button?
I noticed this was your Dev A - Do I have to setup the midi channel on the MultiStomp if I put it on Dev E? I've got everything working, it is powered correctly, but in preset mode it doesn't cycle through the presets. It will pull up and activate random presets on the MultiStomp but I can't seem to pick the preset I want with the preset on my DMC-8 and activate/deactivate either. Seems like it is getting command on the wrong midi channel or something. Any thoughts?
Due to a quirk in the USB Host setup, your MultiStomp needs to be set to DevA. It doesn't have to be first in your signal chain, it just needs to use the DevA controls.
Ok that worked! Thanks for the help. I had to move a Chase Bliss Pedal from that spot I'm using on multi-Jack 1. Do you know can I move a Chase Bliss Pedal using a Multi-Jack to Dev D, E, or F? or do they have to be on A, B, C because of the Multi-Jack Midi Channel won't go to 4,5,6?
Very true! However, the point of this demo is to show how this MIDI controller works with the Zoom MS series while also controlling your other MIDI pedals.
You are right, however MS70 has the best effects of zoom and they do not exist in G3 or G5 series in general. I must confess that I won't give that money to increment presets only. I can do that assigning letters in performance mood up to 26 presets. That is enough.
@@DisasterAreaDesigns ive seen in this video that he had scroll patches in one footswitch in one direction. Could you make a video using a micro one and scroll that switches thoroughly?
I agree that the large connectors are more robust, however in order to support USB-OTG (on the go, aka host mode) you need to use a connector that supports host mode ID. Mini and Micro both support this, since they have an ID pin present, 5 pins rather than 4. If we could get a big sturdy connector that did USB-OTG and didn't cost a fortune we would have used them!
I think it's weird that you've taken the time to make a comment about this, delete it, and then make a second comment. I'm sure you're savvy enough to know that just because we only pressed the right button in this demo, that doesn't mean the left button doesn't work. Not only does the controller scroll presets up, it also scrolls them down in exactly the same way. It can even allow you to send program changes in any order, so that you can create a set list of your sounds to recall quickly while playing live.
Love the new videos! Please show us the boss dd500 or Empress Reverb
It looks like there's been some more discovery on the midi control for this Zoom pedal, has there been an update to the firmware to support toggling on/off the first 3 effects in a chain? This uses SYSEX though and I'm not sure if these controllers have SYSEX functionality programmed in.
Where can I find more info on this?
Fully supported? It looks like you basically just replicated the tap function for the one-way scroll of the patches. Most of us have a separate tuner. So if you already have one-way scroll through of the patches with the center switch on the Zoom, why do I need an external MIDI switch? If it scrolled back in addition to forward, that would help. If it switched from patch to effect chain mode, allowed you to scroll left to right and switch on/off any individual effect, that would be beneficial.
Totally agree. Unfortunately preset up and down + tuner are the only MIDI CC / PC messages the MultiStomps will respond to. Other features such as effect select, tempo set, etc. are only accessible with MIDI sysex commands and that goes a little bit past what these controllers can do.
If you don't want a separate switch, that's totally cool. You can still use the memory function on the MS pedals to step through a list of patches. But one big benefit of our controllers is that you can go directly to any patch in any order / random access. And then you can also combine that with other MIDI devices using the 5-pin DIN or 1/4" MultiJack interfaces and have your whole rig change at the same time.
@@DisasterAreaDesigns Wait a minute, you mean you can have the patch selector go both down and up? Back tracking would be very valuable (not available on base unit, just one-way). All the previous Zoom pedals had this capability with the two left-right foot switches. The one-way ticket on patch selection is why these pedals were probably discontinued. They did have crippled midi, could have been updated/upgraded functionality with an exterior footswitch, but they chose not to. Everyone else is hardwiring in and using left and right effects selection, but to use it rquires a couple of presses that are needed making quick punch in and out (needed for live playing) almost impossible.
in the video you show how to do the command Bank up, what about the command bank down? is it possible to switch from A to B and then B to A? plus what do you mean with no saving and do the operation every time? every time i plug the controller i have to set the bank function?
Thanks
Not sure what you mean about A to B / B to A. The DMC can select any of the 50 presets on the Zoom units in any order. You can go up or down as you see fit, and you don't have to reprogram. The DMC saves the configuration in its memory for you.
Great product,can you tell me if this supports the Line6 Pocket Pod with the LCD screen and micro USB port?
Not sure - we don't have one here to test but I would say it probably won't work.
Hi guys. Thanks for the videos. Can you please show the Zoom MS 70 CDR with a larger gen 3 controller. I was hoping to get one. Thanks.
The larger controllers work the same way - the Zoom must be used as the "A" device, and you can access program changes and the tuner over USB. If there's something specific you'd like to see with the larger controllers we're happy to post a video, but otherwise it would be exactly like this one! Thanks!
Alexander Pedals thanks for the msg. I understand it only changes patches and tuner function. I was hoping to see a controller access patches by assigned switches instead of scrolling up and down. I was hoping to have possibly 8 custom presets “scenes” and have it laid out where 4 preset switches are bank 1 the go to bank 2 and there are 4 more presets.
Is this possible? Thanks again.
I'm 100% sure if it is USB midi, but if this worked with a Yamaha THR10 that would be awesome. Changing patches with a footswitch would be super handy.
I don't have one of those to test, but I would guess that it won't work since the amp needs a USB driver to connect to your computer. Sorry!
I've been using this for a while. All this stuff still confuses me. I just use it to scroll through my presets (when the DMC powers up i get out of playlist mode and go straight to controlling A device... I think). Seems like you can make a 'playlist' in zoom though and then scroll through that playlist from the DMC? How did you guys do that? The presets scrolled out of order in the Zoom as you went through the playlist on the DMC. Cheers
While I'm here, I have the DPC-8EZ too. Is there usable a way I can control both devices through the DMC? Whether DMC controls both simultaneously or separately.
Great vid, will this method happen to work with the Source Audio One Series pedal, like the la lady overdrive? Or would that require a firmware update?
Awesome devices!
Just get the Neuro Hub. It's totally worth it if you have a few One Series pedals. The Hub counts as *one* MIDI device and takes a regular 5-pin.
If you only have one SA pedal, then I'd imagine this would work. Did you try it?
Hi, I have a doubt. When I connect to the zoom, it generates a lot of electrical noise. I have connected the GMC to 300 mA but it still makes a lot of noise. it has a solution? thanks
I've just purchased a DPC-5 Gen 3 to control 5 loops and a ZOOM CDR-70 in my amps FX loop but I am having some issues with digital noise when connecting over the USB host connector so could do with some tips if possible.If I just use the USB host to power and control the ZOOM it works great and there is no issue with noise whatsoever. Plugging the guitar directly in the front of the amp it works fine.When I connect the guitar input and output (no loops engaged) to the DPC-5 with the zoom being powered by the DPC, there is a very loud digital whining noise and it's unusable. I'm using isolated outputs from a voodoo labs PSU. Removing the USB cable to the zoom and powering directly from the voodoo labs power supply it also works fine so seems that there is an issue when using the audio path in the DPC-5 and the USB to the zoom. I've tried several USB cables and all have the same issue. Works fine on its own but loud digital noise when using the DPC audio path and the zoom. Also, the digital noise changes when buttons are pressed on the DPC-5. All my cables check out good so could do with some advice on how to fix this.ThanksAndy
Hi there! Try powering the Zoom with the external power supply while having the USB connected - that tends to correct any digital ground loop noise present.
Hi, I've tried this with powering the zoom connected to an isolated PSU with the USB connected and the DPC with its own isolated connection and re-powering the system but the issue still exists unfortunately and I get a load of digital noise. Is there any other things to try? It works fine with and without a separate PSU attached to the ZOOM with zero noise and the zoom is controlled correctly by the DPC. Its only when plugging into the audio path of the DPC I get the issue.Thanks
Might be best to email - we can go into more depth there. Use the contact form on the site and we'll get you sorted.
Thanks for the great support and quick resolution of the problem Matthew.
Can I use one of these to control both an Octatrakt MKii and an Oberheim Echoplex Digital pro?
Very cool!
Apakah alat ini bisa membuat on/off rangkaian pada pedal zoom multistomp...?? Misalkan membuat on/off rangakaian pedal no 1 ,pedal no 2 atau pedal no 3...???
Love these controllers! Any chance of a similar video for the new DMC Micro? :)
Yes, as soon as we can get the time!
The DMC Micro works with this zoom MS as well?
With Zoom B1on Is possibile to command expression pedal?
When scrolling memories/presets, along with scrolling forward-from A to B etc-, can it scroll back, so from C to B to A? also, I saw in an earlier comment that you are working on a new USB hub. I am looking forward to more news on that!
Yes, you can access presets in any order you like.
Hey there, great video, very helpful. Can the gHost converter support multiple Zoom Stomp boxes?
Unfortunately the version that is built in to the Gen3 pedals doesn't support the use of a USB hub or multiple Zoom pedals.
Disaster Area Designs did the gHost converter support it? I've seen a video of someone using a DA pedal to control 2 separate Zoom Stomps. I'm still CRAZY for my dmc-3xl gen 3. Such a powerful unit, thanks for
Yes, the original version supports up to four, but uses different hardware to do so.
Gotcha! I didn't finish my last sentence - I was going to say thanks for creating and supporting such fantastic pedals. Is that the Grape Soda finish on that pedal in the video ?! I'm glad to see that you are doing your part to make America Grape again!
Does it work using the DMC miro pro and the MS-60B ?
Yes, all the same steps apply.
Is there any way you can allow this pedal to work with the tap tempo of the Jamman series? Specifically the Solo XT or Express XT?
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I somehow forgot my password. I appreciate any assistance you can give me
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Does this work with the DPC 8EZ Gen 2? Is there any way to sent PC messages to it with the patches
Is there way to use another MIDI controller that has CC assignment to turn individual fx on/off like the Rocktron MIDI MATE?
The Zoom stuff doesn't support CC commands except for tuner on / off. You can use some more complicated SysEx commands to do those tasks but it's a bit more complicated than a simple CC message.
Can it be connected to an expression pedal to adjust a variable value e.g. Wah effect, pitch, volume?
Sadly no. The Zoom pedals don't accept any real time messages other than preset change and tuner activation. I'm afraid we just can't do it.
Is the USB adapter just a OTG USB cable?
Yes, USB mini-B OTG. If you bundle the adapter with your DMC, we charge about what you'd pay on Amazon, etc. but we do test them thoroughly to make sure that they actually work.
Hey guys! I am working on a new board, and I’m wondering if you can help me out. I am trying to control a Line 6 M5, a Zoom MS, and a Syntax Error. Is there a way to make the ES-8 control the Zoom through one of your other controllers? (And also control the M5 and Syntax?)
Actually there is - you can use something like the DMC.micro as a USB bridge. You'll need a slightly custom MIDI cable (or use the DMC MIDI Y cable we sell) but that's all it takes. You can then use the MultiJack on the DMC.micro to control the Syntax Error and the other end of the MIDI-Y to run to the M5. Easy.
what address do you send to zoom, is program change or cc?
Hi. Do these cables need to be connected strictly in that order?, Do they work the other way, USB cable to dmc.micro and host adaptor to zoom?
For the Baby they'll work in either direction. For our other Gen3 products they must connect this way, so it's easier to just recommend this across the board.
@@DisasterAreaDesigns thank you.
Hi, is there a mode available where you can go through the presets and only change it when u want? Like going from 1 to 4 without having to listen to presets 2 and 3. Thanks, I'm really interested in that controller
Yes! Hold the left button in preset mode to enter "search" mode. You can then select a new preset and hold the left button to return to "active."
@@DisasterAreaDesigns thanks! Do you always have to hold down the left button to search? Isn't there a mode where you just go through the presets and press a button to activate it when you want and then do it again without having to hold down the left button?
@@AndreMarques42 Yes, that's the only way.
Would you guys be able to do this for the zoom A3?
Hey thanks for the response! Is there a way to have one controller for multiple MS or A3 pedals?
HI, do you have the diagrams of the footswitch?
I noticed this was your Dev A - Do I have to setup the midi channel on the MultiStomp if I put it on Dev E? I've got everything working, it is powered correctly, but in preset mode it doesn't cycle through the presets. It will pull up and activate random presets on the MultiStomp but I can't seem to pick the preset I want with the preset on my DMC-8 and activate/deactivate either. Seems like it is getting command on the wrong midi channel or something. Any thoughts?
Due to a quirk in the USB Host setup, your MultiStomp needs to be set to DevA. It doesn't have to be first in your signal chain, it just needs to use the DevA controls.
Ok that worked! Thanks for the help. I had to move a Chase Bliss Pedal from that spot I'm using on multi-Jack 1. Do you know can I move a Chase Bliss Pedal using a Multi-Jack to Dev D, E, or F? or do they have to be on A, B, C because of the Multi-Jack Midi Channel won't go to 4,5,6?
It would be awesome if it was possible to host the Mooer GE200 like this. Is this possible?
It may be - find out from Mooer whether the USB interface on the GE200 accepts MIDI commands and if so we may be able to support it!
What about controlling TC Electronic Plethora X5?
We've not been able to make this work. TC stuff seems to be recognized as a MIDI device but won't respond to any messages we send.
This would be great to control a Boss MS-3 switcher!
Sorry, no. The MS-3 needs a special USB driver to work, it's not class-compliant like the Zoom boxes.
Is it possible to send MIDI BPM sync over USB to MS-70?
That would be awesome, but propably no :(
Is possible recall a preset that I want or just scroll with the zoom cycle mode?
You can go directly to any of the 50 presets.
Disaster Area Designs Ok, but I can't see that in the video.
Turn usb midi into din midi for multiple devices, thats the real holy grail
The processor we use in the Gen3 only supports a single device. We are working on a new device that supports a USB hub for multiple devices.
Can do the same with the Atomic Amplfire Box ?
I don't know - we will reach out to Atomic for details on their USB implementation.
Disaster Area Designs great.
Where can I buy it?
the price of zoom ms + the DMC = zoom g3xn or nearly g5n
Very true! However, the point of this demo is to show how this MIDI controller works with the Zoom MS series while also controlling your other MIDI pedals.
You are right, however MS70 has the best effects of zoom and they do not exist in G3 or G5 series in general. I must confess that I won't give that money to increment presets only. I can do that assigning letters in performance mood up to 26 presets. That is enough.
Will this work with DMC 2 Gen 2?
I'm afraid not, sorry. Gen3 or higher.
Is this possible with the one that has two footswiches only?
Yes! The steps to set up are the same for the DMC.micro
@@DisasterAreaDesigns can it scroll patches up and down?
@@riannedalemusic1899 yes. Everything is the same as in this video.
@@DisasterAreaDesigns ive seen in this video that he had scroll patches in one footswitch in one direction. Could you make a video using a micro one and scroll that switches thoroughly?
Does it work with The flash acá X 4?
No. Flashback 4 MIDI implementation is very limited.
Price this controller?
Will this work the same way wihh the Micro?
Yes, it's almost identical to set up.
Why is everyone going to usb mini ports - I hate them. The A and B connectors are way more secure, and less likely to break
I agree that the large connectors are more robust, however in order to support USB-OTG (on the go, aka host mode) you need to use a connector that supports host mode ID. Mini and Micro both support this, since they have an ID pin present, 5 pins rather than 4. If we could get a big sturdy connector that did USB-OTG and didn't cost a fortune we would have used them!
How can I buy?
will this work on the new zoom g3n ?
No left direction? weird
I think it's weird that you've taken the time to make a comment about this, delete it, and then make a second comment. I'm sure you're savvy enough to know that just because we only pressed the right button in this demo, that doesn't mean the left button doesn't work.
Not only does the controller scroll presets up, it also scrolls them down in exactly the same way. It can even allow you to send program changes in any order, so that you can create a set list of your sounds to recall quickly while playing live.
Source Audio C4?
Yes, but we won't have full support in the firmware until the next update.
Hi. Can the DMC.micro control the Zoom MS70?
Yes, it’s exactly the same as this video.
Is it for sale?please respon
Yes. There is a link in the description.
Any support for Zoom G3xn?
I know this works on the G3 / B3, so it should also work on the G3xn.