_"In July of 2013, in Avinger, Texas, 73-year-old former Cleveland Hells Angels member-turned-informant Clarence “Butch” Crouch killed himself, his wife, and his step-son."_
Why my wife and soulmate and I understood that Honor & Honesty are the only way to prevent hurting or being hurt. Death Before Dishonor & Word Is Bond are two more wedding vows than most people make. Willingness to betray those who trusted you is a character defect that permeates every aspect of a person’s life. Like I said Death Before Dishonor. Otherwise, as here, death after dishonor. Innocent people- children even - died in terror because of a person with a flawed character. Never regretted not rolling over in my youth. My lawyer got my case dismissed, got a crooked cop, sheriff & prosecutor fired & about three dozen other cases were thrown out and people were let out. Best thing I did was hire a CD lawyer who was a former state senator who already was looking to bust up their game. Because he trusted my honor & commitment to the right path I have had a fabulous life. Called to thank him two decades later. Found his son with the same first name had his old office. But He had passed. he listened riveted while I told him the difference he had made, and how he chose mine as his test & proof of what was going on. It took place only because we trusted (but verified!) each other. He thanked me for my story. He had been close to his father but never knew the righteous damage his father had done using my case. Some lawyers are men of honor no matter what the real percentages may be. Don’t say “all lawyers are crooks” in front of me. I know better. He even saved a man going to the chair for poisoning his 8 children. Schwab the DA was using his babysitter, the prime suspect in the death of 8 other children who were killed by poison. It was almost all him, not me. But he is one reason I would never betray a trust. Sometimes the repercussions continue. From Honor and dishonor. I rest my case -Matt’s dad I really WAS innocent. But I still was looking at life by the installment plan. Charges stacked so high I’d never get out of the system. Always value Honor! -Matt’s dad
@@brettbanta2100 They probably barely had heard of them in detail at least. This was 45 years ago, and its a hearing. They aren't as dumb as you assume, they're just trying to get the exact answers for the RECORD. Things had to be worded exactly and they seem taken aback about some of the stuff they weren't aware of.
@15:45 “Several millionaires in the club?! Do you know who the millionaires might be?!” Said with a voice inflection that can only be described as ‘how can I solicit campaign donations from them’. Shortly after that the video cuts out for a period of time, that I have to assume is him getting (or attempting to get) their contact information. It’s a good thing that the senator was sitting down during this exchange, otherwise we would have seen his intense erection and wet pants over discovering there are millionaires that he didn’t already know about.
yeah how dare working class people or anyone have a *** penny to their name -- politicians corrupted to the gills by everyone on earth. Then they realize someone might have a few dollars & didn't kick back to their corrupted asses 😆 yeah way to drive them crazy - greedy bastards probably stayed awake nights just tormented by the thought 💰
@@swampghost72 This is 45 years ago. Why do some of you keep speaking like it's an indictment of current America LOLOL!! They're all dead now!! It had little to do with current events.
Didn’t realise you could go from Bike Club to bike club, I thought you were in for life 🤷🏼♀️ This is a dead man if the club catch up with him. Especially opening his mouth
The Daughter of this man "Butch" is so desperate for money she is doing podcasts, she is bitter and angry with Witness Program she would do better by keeping her head down
@robyn, I used to think this as well, 1 club and 1 club only unless there was an agreed Patch over, In Australia they have what's called " Nike Bikies" they go from club to club, have heaps of jewellery, Tattoos and wax their Private areas
Well why aren't you a noble individual with strict moral fortitude or then again you could just be front'n due to the guilt you feel for snitching on all your friends! I guess the best question to ask a badass like yourself is what criminal activity have you ever committed?
90% of people looking at jail time snitch or are willing to snitch , it’s hidden , kept secret. And a lot depends on what the feds, state consider useful
The genius senator, "the ones on the east side were in control of the east coast and those on the west side were in charge of the west coast". Thank you senator, almost as good as hank Johnson asking a general, seriously mind you, if the extra weight of the b-52 bombers based on guam would cause the island to tip over and SINK. When the general reacted as any normal person would, confused and asking to make sure the question was what rep Johnson meant and the frustrated rep responded in a way making it clear he wasnt and demanded an answer as guams existence depends upon it!
It would be funny, if it wasn't true! It's difficult to believe, but you can see the entire thing right here on You Tube. He never even offered any retraction or explanation, he is just patently stupid. The man is a complete moron, but not as stupid as the people that elected him over and over. He was a career politician! Elected and re-elected time & time again. Notice also how not ONE of his constituents attempts to clarify him or correct his response! Nope! They all just sat there while he babbled on and on! Whenever some one mentions term limits, it is immediately shot down! What is an absolute moron gonna do with himself if he did not have that job!? It is frightening!
Yes, although it might be obvious that East side MC’s control the east coast, this is an official Congressional hearing and facts need to be stated, even though it might be stating what might be obvious.
For anyone that's curious about the back story, there is a true crime podcast called Relative Unknown. It is a retelling of events made by Butch's daughter, Jackie. It tells the story from beginning
26:18 nothing more fascinating than a cameraman filming another cameraman filming something we can’t see. And for that matter what is wrong with the cameraman? Middle school AV club members would do a much better job. Shortly before that, I thought the cameraman was going to zoom all the way into the gap in that woman’s teeth.
@johnschomer7790 that ain't no guard, thats a U.S. Marshall. He was under the Marshall services WITSEC That Marshall really do look like Denis Radar tho😂
Jackie the kid Giacalone the Boss of the Detroit Italian Mafia went to his uncle Anthony Tony jack Giacalone and got permission to put a hit out on The Outlaws undisputed President Harry Taco Bowman . Facts!
He wasn’t under arrest and didn’t have any pending charges when he became an informant. He was (allegedly) guilt ridden and wanted to clear his conscience.
If you listen the his daughters podcast there is enough info there to prove most of what he’s saying as true. Not all but certainly a big part of it. He died in 2013 and left a huge treasure trove of info including tons of documents, records, photos, Angels’ stuff, etc.
There used to be so many wild subcultures around. We had an extremely diverse culture. All kinds of different musical movements, literature movements, cultural movements, cinema, art, you name it ... There's NOTHING like that today, is there? Almost like subculture is completely dead. Makes you realise what a boring time we live in lol. The modern age is dominated by social media and politics. Not much else going on.
yeah exactly ! -- not like an informant would lie ! not like Politicians would play it up foe drama - political power and those most cherished contribution$
Ran the dialogue through my voice stress analyzer- this guy is just making stuff up as he goes along. A complete exercise in bullshit. He's just trying to appear informed but there's an appalling lack of detail in both the questions and his glib responses. This is what is historically referred to as a "Dog and Pony Show". On the surface it appears legitimate, but the overall vibe betrays a public relations stunt. They probably threatened him with months of baloney dinners if he didn't cooperate in their charade.
Exactly like every member of the club in every charter has to make his bones and kill someone in the first 6 months what total bullshit I mean I know some people in the club have killed but everybody know way in hell.
This is structured diversity of entering in conversation via putting a person in play to catch other members or club's into action as they place on the board for adjustment which is needed We knew it back then as they were planting seeds to bring in such affiliate ruling around the world Nothing more then a front for Sicilian and intel bodies AFFA angels never die nffn HMS council
If everything this "witness" says is true, there is no need to guard his identity. 81 knows exactly who he is based on the stories. I bet he is screened to hide his notes.
I guess the time difference just gives this hearing such a 'generic' feel ... the bullshit whispering following each statement has me nauseas! 😂 and we're creeping up on some AI robots running the show? not much has changed ...
I used to know a guy named Butch Everyone used to call him rat because he looked like one this video really hit Home. Only differences the Butch That I know that went by rat would never rat Does that make sense? or am I just Rambling the fuck on high as a kite
_"In July of 2013, in Avinger, Texas, 73-year-old former Cleveland Hells Angels member-turned-informant Clarence “Butch” Crouch killed himself, his wife, and his step-son."_
Was it in that particular order?
Wow, he pulled a Chris Benoit
Why my wife and soulmate and I understood
that Honor & Honesty are the only way to prevent hurting or being hurt.
Death Before Dishonor & Word Is Bond are two more wedding vows than most people make.
Willingness to betray those who trusted you is a character defect that permeates every aspect of a person’s life.
Like I said Death Before Dishonor. Otherwise, as here, death after dishonor.
Innocent people- children even - died in terror because of a person with a flawed character.
Never regretted not rolling over in my youth. My lawyer got my case dismissed, got a crooked cop, sheriff & prosecutor fired & about three dozen other cases were thrown out and people were let out.
Best thing I did was hire a CD lawyer who was a former state senator who already was looking to bust up their game.
Because he trusted my honor & commitment to the right path I have had a fabulous life.
Called to thank him two decades later. Found his son with the same first name had his old office. But He had passed. he listened riveted while I told him the difference he had made, and how he chose mine as his test & proof of what was going on. It took place only because we trusted (but verified!) each other.
He thanked me for my story. He had been close to his father but never knew the righteous damage his father had done using my case.
Some lawyers are men of honor no matter what the real percentages may be.
Don’t say “all lawyers are crooks” in front of me. I know better. He even saved a man going to the chair for poisoning his 8 children.
Schwab the DA was using his babysitter, the prime suspect in the death of 8 other children who were killed by poison.
It was almost all him, not me. But he is one reason I would never betray a trust.
Sometimes the repercussions continue. From Honor and dishonor.
I rest my case
-Matt’s dad
I really WAS innocent.
But I still was looking at life by the installment plan.
Charges stacked so high I’d never get out of the system.
Always value Honor!
-Matt’s dad
Wow wtf
Thx for update!!!
Dang that senator is just too old he cant follow a simple story! There needs to be age limits in congress and senate!
The deaf old fk has to take a piss every 10 minutes.
Dang I hate that word so much just like they use that word on Chris Hansen dang now that's a gay word embarrassing to saying that
And president
I’m Canadian n agree
This old guy is really good at asking horrible questions and repeating answers we just heard. Scary that this is who we have running the country.
Lol, man you're not shitting. These dudes act like they've never heard of the Hell's Angels
To be fair he has his caregiver constantly telling him what to say the entire time in his ear, which probably doesn’t work too well to begin with.
That old guy has probably been long dead since this was recorded 40 yrs ago
You've never seen the current president of this country??
@@brettbanta2100 They probably barely had heard of them in detail at least. This was 45 years ago, and its a hearing. They aren't as dumb as you assume, they're just trying to get the exact answers for the RECORD. Things had to be worded exactly and they seem taken aback about some of the stuff they weren't aware of.
It's hard to kill a man that moves like Jagger😂😂😂😂😂😂
That old man would believe if Butch told him he had lunch with Santa Claus in Ohio.He’s eating this up.
You fool
I love all of the hot mics. I actually appreciate it.
That was awesome thanks post posting video. Cheers
I think the old man knew everything he was talking about.
Strom Thurmond an OG member of the very first "outlaw riding club" - the KKK. THE IRONY.
Exactly...Big Time RACIST....Joe Biden, was licking his heels.
Yep
@15:45 “Several millionaires in the club?! Do you know who the millionaires might be?!” Said with a voice inflection that can only be described as ‘how can I solicit campaign donations from them’. Shortly after that the video cuts out for a period of time, that I have to assume is him getting (or attempting to get) their contact information. It’s a good thing that the senator was sitting down during this exchange, otherwise we would have seen his intense erection and wet pants over discovering there are millionaires that he didn’t already know about.
yeah how dare working class people or anyone have a *** penny to their name -- politicians corrupted to the gills by everyone on earth. Then they realize someone might have a few dollars & didn't kick back to their corrupted asses 😆 yeah way to drive them crazy - greedy bastards probably stayed awake nights just tormented by the thought 💰
Why would anyone trust a man who can only stay with one club for brief periods
@brians7901, you are 100% correct, the bloke should have stayed with the Banditos
You are correct Brian...good read!
Cause loyalty isn't what it once was.people are out for themselves and don't live for the good of any brotherhood.
@@swampghost72 I mean this was in the 80s man
@@swampghost72 This is 45 years ago. Why do some of you keep speaking like it's an indictment of current America LOLOL!! They're all dead now!! It had little to do with current events.
That guy on the committe needs a hearing aid.
Big time the guy seems like hes retarded
Yes he does. Fucking annoying! He told Butch to speak louder Butch has been speaking louder ever since and he still constantly being interrupted.
That guy is Senator Chuck Grassley, who at 89 years old is still in Congress today.
Eh...HOWZAT? You say I uh, need a “hearin’ aid”?
...HOWZAT? eh?
@@thedude4672 He's Strom Thurmond
Didn’t realise you could go from Bike Club to bike club, I thought you were in for life 🤷🏼♀️ This is a dead man if the club catch up with him. Especially opening his mouth
He died in 2013. Self inflicted gunshot.
@@detroitredwings7130 thanks for the update, much appreciated 👍
@@detroitredwings7130 “self” inflicted.
The Daughter of this man "Butch" is so desperate for money she is doing podcasts, she is bitter and angry with Witness Program she would do better by keeping her head down
@robyn, I used to think this as well, 1 club and 1 club only unless there was an agreed Patch over, In Australia they have what's called " Nike Bikies" they go from club to club, have heaps of jewellery, Tattoos and wax their Private areas
Love this channel
Somebody, please give that old senator a headset.
Granpa--turn yer friggin hearing aid up!!!
They're like a private mercenary army.
That's what I call "MAINE JUSTICE !"
He can explain how you get red wings😂
Bud - eating period pussy 😅
You’d think as much $ as these senators are paid,he could afford a hearing aid.
Lol now thats funny sh$#.... said perfectly 👍
Tell me would you spend money on a small piece of plastic to assist in hearing when you can afford a person to assist you?
I hate snitches even these ppl are looking at him like wtf are you talking about 😂😂😂
Well why aren't you a noble individual with strict moral fortitude or then again you could just be front'n due to the guilt you feel for snitching on all your friends! I guess the best question to ask a badass like yourself is what criminal activity have you ever committed?
90% of people looking at jail time snitch or are willing to snitch , it’s hidden , kept secret. And a lot depends on what the feds, state consider useful
The genius senator, "the ones on the east side were in control of the east coast and those on the west side were in charge of the west coast".
Thank you senator, almost as good as hank Johnson asking a general, seriously mind you, if the extra weight of the b-52 bombers based on guam would cause the island to tip over and SINK.
When the general reacted as any normal person would, confused and asking to make sure the question was what rep Johnson meant and the frustrated rep responded in a way making it clear he wasnt and demanded an answer as guams existence depends upon it!
It would be funny, if it wasn't true! It's difficult to believe, but you can see the entire thing right here on You Tube. He never even offered any retraction or explanation, he is just patently stupid. The man is a complete moron, but not as stupid as the people that elected him over and over. He was a career politician! Elected and re-elected time & time again. Notice also how not ONE of his constituents attempts to clarify him or correct his response! Nope! They all just sat there while he babbled on and on! Whenever some one mentions term limits, it is immediately shot down! What is an absolute moron gonna do with himself if he did not have that job!? It is frightening!
Yes, although it might be obvious that East side MC’s control the east coast, this is an official Congressional hearing and facts need to be stated, even though it might be stating what might be obvious.
What a bunch of crap. Just put the fed on the stand. And all the protecting of prosecutors and polititions
For anyone that's curious about the back story, there is a true crime podcast called Relative Unknown. It is a retelling of events made by Butch's daughter, Jackie. It tells the story from beginning
What a coward. Ganging up on one guy.
Addie Crouch?
I bet the guy lying thru his teeth, if he has some.
That old senator is gettin off on this.That’s actually Senator Grassley sitting next to him.That’s how long he’s been in the Senate.
I thought that was his voice.Grassley
That’s strom Thurmond originally speaking I believe
Then vote for term limits!
Why does he have to know the 9 days later you have to have tatoos.He’s just sitting there in awe.
26:18 nothing more fascinating than a cameraman filming another cameraman filming something we can’t see. And for that matter what is wrong with the cameraman? Middle school AV club members would do a much better job. Shortly before that, I thought the cameraman was going to zoom all the way into the gap in that woman’s teeth.
Is there an uncut version of this?
HATE & DISCONTENT
Idk if I'd read it now 🤣
This is like “Story Time”.That old man is eating this up so he can go tell all his buddies about the stories he heard.
49:00 He says the Hells Angels have an open contract to kill Mick Jagger. He says he knows of two attempts to kill Mick Jagger..
I gotta say it's too bad they failed on that contract.
Don’t forget, that was 40 years ago, and probably due to issues at Altamont
@@HamiltonRb Turns out that hiring hells angels as security is a bad idea. Who would have thunk it?
According to G. Christie, the Rolling Stones DID send a 50 K check to HA, after the last attempt. So, it worked and everyone is happy.
That’s absolutely true. George Christie talked about it.
Strom should have been retired enjoying himself by a lake and relaxing instead of residing over this .😅😊
I made him an X member 😂
What’s with the person who sits on this side of the barrier? Does anyone know the purpose of that?
Protecting Butch. It's BTK
Yup, guards.
@johnschomer7790 that ain't no guard, thats a U.S. Marshall. He was under the Marshall services WITSEC
That Marshall really do look like Denis Radar tho😂
The guy talking behind the screen is Jack from Jack-In-The Box.
Haha
He’s giving the lowdown on stoner munchies.
How are all these people still allowed to call it a gang so repetitively? That ain't right.
You mean club
gang had a bit of a different meaning back then...
Millionaires? 👀👀 oh SEVERAL MILLIONAIRES??? 👀👀 Throw out those words around politions and your sure to reel one in
so the was the build up to the failed Rico case? 86?
Jackie the kid Giacalone the Boss of the Detroit Italian Mafia went to his uncle Anthony Tony jack Giacalone and got permission to put a hit out on The Outlaws undisputed President Harry Taco Bowman . Facts!
Even if true, the Outlaws would have smashed "The Partnership" before they had the chance..
@@pauliedibbs9028 Bowman paid 500k to stay alive fucko
@@Detroit_Siggy. Would love to know where you heard that load of shit, "fucko"
You honestly believe the Outlaws or any M.C. could take out The Partnership ( Detroit Mob ).
Interesting.
It really sounds like this guy is making stuff up and giving non useful information. Just saying anything to stay free.
fuckin' A
He wasn’t under arrest and didn’t have any pending charges when he became an informant. He was (allegedly) guilt ridden and wanted to clear his conscience.
If you listen the his daughters podcast there is enough info there to prove most of what he’s saying as true. Not all but certainly a big part of it. He died in 2013 and left a huge treasure trove of info including tons of documents, records, photos, Angels’ stuff, etc.
There used to be so many wild subcultures around. We had an extremely diverse culture. All kinds of different musical movements, literature movements, cultural movements, cinema, art, you name it ... There's NOTHING like that today, is there? Almost like subculture is completely dead. Makes you realise what a boring time we live in lol. The modern age is dominated by social media and politics. Not much else going on.
Everything including motorcycle clubs are mostly watered down. Too many people and no new ideas.
You're right mostly. As for as culture goes. But, things are more deadly now than they were back then. Make no mistake.
This fuckin asshole. Talking shit about The Outlaws. Fucking pussy.
He thinks he's badass because he killed somebody with a bunch of people.
But zero home building revolution
Rip sonny
Italian *fraction* Irish *fraction*
He’s being very *pecific*
Is that strom Thurman , damn he was an old SOB even 40 yrs ago 😅😅😅😊😊not sure if that's him or another old southerner who just looks like him .
That's Strom.
Mic jagger thing seems like kind of cover honestly. They played on the whole show. The killing happened very early on in the performance
yeah exactly ! -- not like an informant would lie ! not like Politicians would play it up foe drama - political power and those most cherished contribution$
So this snitch,kilss his whole family,and himself. Wow.I wouldn’t put 2 Nicole’s on this informant.
This friggen guy, huh, huh, huh, wtf
It sounds like an awful way of life I can’t imagine why someone would work so hard to join.
So this guy cut up an Outlaw left a big (X) on him.. ... But he is hiding his face.. That would be a give away.. humm
They didnt need any hints , they knew who was betrayin them. Dont get that twisted
Holy shit is that Monica Lewinsky?
" Is " I don't understand the meaning of the word 😆 / Poor Bill his wife a megalomaniac with a sweeet personality
These pigs is square, dig?
The senator is Strom Thurmond
The hard of hearing Senator should retire now !!!
Love the old southern gentleman. Deep rooted.
Faction, not Fraction
They are not much different then a masonery or a whatever Brotherhood but in less educated and sofisticated.
@LAROSAMUSICMARKETS, Your comment is 100% correct similar to the Masons or other Secret Societies except they don't fly under the radar
And do way less crimes and killings than the masons and the other brotherhoods too
Ran the dialogue through my voice stress analyzer- this guy is just making stuff up as he goes along. A complete exercise in bullshit. He's just trying to appear informed but there's an appalling lack of detail in both the questions and his glib responses. This is what is historically referred to as a "Dog and Pony Show". On the surface it appears legitimate, but the overall vibe betrays a public relations stunt. They probably threatened him with months of baloney dinners if he didn't cooperate in their charade.
Check the link in my above comment
You are wrong
@@JohnDoe-bk5hf pray tell
Exactly like every member of the club in every charter has to make his bones and kill someone in the first 6 months what total bullshit I mean I know some people in the club have killed but everybody know way in hell.
His name was Clarence “Addie” Crouch. Much of what he’s saying here was z
Doesn't add up
I assume you mean your common sense! You are correct!
Between the rats and the police your freedom is short in a club.
Freedom is yours to throw away! Don't blame the rats or the police, blame the criminal, blame yourself
Why does the U.S. Marshall look like Denis Radar/ BTK?😂
This guy doesn't know much except hearsay.
That dudes a clown fraction or faction ? 81 to bandidos then back agran he must of been a high commodity wow
X Member 😂 ❤ it!
U think these politicians are so old n uninformed at all on anything of ha, how could they get caught. ????? These guys should be in a home
This is structured diversity of entering in conversation via putting a person in play to catch other members or club's into action as they place on the board for adjustment which is needed
We knew it back then as they were planting seeds to bring in such affiliate ruling around the world
Nothing more then a front for Sicilian and intel bodies
AFFA angels never die nffn HMS council
I cannot BELIEVE THIS RAT actually referred to MC’s as “gangs”!!!!
He's a rat, but the gang itself is not a rat for working with the federal intelligence agencies and law enforcement networks? 😅
Strom Thurman 😂😂😂
A young Chuck Grassley!
Whispering Grass
If everything this "witness" says is true, there is no need to guard his identity. 81 knows exactly who he is based on the stories. I bet he is screened to hide his notes.
That old man reminds me of someone 🤔, ah well 🍦
Something isn’t right.
Grandpa needs to retire, sad to say people like this run the country
If it makes you feel any better, he permanently retired in 2003.
Big money 💰 🤑 💸 😎 💪 💯 💰
I guess the time difference just gives this hearing such a 'generic' feel ... the bullshit whispering following each statement has me nauseas! 😂 and we're creeping up on some AI robots running the show? not much has changed ...
Lmfao
24:48 shes down for the streets and showed up to find her something to really piss off daddy!
It’s faction not fraction 😂
I was thinking the same thing when I heard him. I was laughing to myself.
What’s with the gum chewing?
Motor sickle, what's that?
What a canary!!
Nothing to say
Crouch Rot 👎.
Butch is my neighbor 😅😮
✔
🐀
Whatta
Sounds like biden
the old guy needs to turn his hearing aids up. "huh"..."say what?"..lol
I used to know a guy named Butch Everyone used to call him rat because he looked like one this video really hit Home. Only differences the Butch That I know that went by rat would never rat Does that make sense? or am I just Rambling the fuck on high as a kite
Don’t senators he free hearing aids !!!
Im not HA but if i was i sure wouldnt talk about it .especially to the govmnt !
"how's that?" "do what?" 😵💫🥸 ol fogey on da mic