I met HBOX in a Walmart once, I told him how big of a fan I was. He then gave me a hug and it felt very nice, until he up throw rested me and I died instantly.
I once met Hbox in a tournament and to show him my appreciation and love I threw a crab at him so he could eat it. He picked it up and saw the gift I gave him and smiled at it and then he got up and started yelling at the audience saying "WHO THREW THIS CRAB AT ME" "YOU SUCK" "THAT IS ANIMAL ABUSE" and walked away with the crab and I remained appaled that my generosity was met with resentment from my idol in a very scummy way
That first drama is sooo stupid. Zero: "Hey can we ban Diddy? He's broken." Everyone: "No." Zero: "Oh okay then I guess I'll play Diddy. Cause he's still broken." Everyone: "HOW DARE YOU THIS IS YOUR FAULT"
People are this dumb all over the world people look for everything to hate on if u won’t ban is use it too. Shoulda banned it like he said majority rule isn’t always right
@@FrancisACNH Idk abt the rest of Europe but in France they just like complaining about X things in smash (except Wario in Ultimate cuz Gluttony exists lol)
@@animephase9165 are you seriously getting angry and insulting him for one thing outta place??? Wow, you are one of the trash smash fans who are so toxic, it's not even funny. You could have just pointed it out, but no, you insult him. I think he meant to so his post like this: Zero: *plays Diddy* Zero: "yo, Diddy is broken, can we ban him?" Smash community: *boos Zero and flips him off for making that suggestion* Zero: "okay. I'll main him then" Smash community: ** BuT yOu SaId We ShOuLd BaN hIm!1!1** There you go, stop being toxic.
@@animephase9165 here i fixed it ZeRo: Plays Diddy* "wow this character is pretty dumb my opponents can't do anything and it has nothing to do with my own skill" Smash Community: " Nah Diddy is fine" ZeRo: Plays Diddy, Opponents can't do much to win Smash Community: "Diddy is so broken ZeRo why are you abusing this unfair character?"
The worst part about Leffen enforcing the pause rule and making Scar SD was the fact that, in doubles, if you lose your last stock and your teammate has another stock you press the pause button to "take the stock" from your teammate and rejoin the game. Obviously it's better to have two players with one stock rather than a 2v1 with two stocks. Scar died, thinking he was on his last stock, and mashed pause to try and get back in a quickly as possible and help SFAT. Because he wasn't on his last stock, this caused the game to actually pause. What Leffen did was completely supported by the rules, but it's honestly an exploit that few players would use because of how scummy it is. I'm sure Zero knows this, I just wanted to add context for some viewers that may be unfamiliar with the mechanics of doubles matches.
Rules are rules man. If it isn't enforced then there shouldn't be any at all. Yeah it's taking advantage, BUT, it's in the nature of ANY sport, and we as a community should respect the rule and the player taking the decision
Diego As grimy as it may seem, I support this. Scar outplayed himself by being unaware of his stock count, so his accidental pausing could be akin to a misinput like missing a wave dash near the ledge. There was so much incriminating evidence that showed Leffen to be extremely toxic as a person + competitive smash player, but this was a very weak example imo. Here he just seems like a cold-hearted stickler to the rules, which is actually fairly common given the cutthroat nature of the competitive FGC...maybe not so in this particular melee circle where they prized chumminess over their own rule set.
@@TheCleanProphet *"which is actually fairly common given the cutthroat nature of the competitive FGC"* What does the competitive FGC have to do with Smash Bros?
WakkaSeta Are you implying that Smash Bros - a fighting game played competitively - is not part of the Fighting Game Community? I understand that many see smash as the black sheep of the FGC, but it’s still a part of it.
If this is truly considered scummy by a majority the rules should be changed to accommodate this. Rules have to be pushed and exploited if they're ever going to be correct. this is called stress testing and all sets of rules need to be stress tested before they can be made correctly. Sometimes stress testing occurs in environments we don't prefer but we should just consider that a part of the history of that rules development.
@@AsakuraEX He was summarizing the tweet and seeing as the rest of his posts he shows on screen as well as the rest of what he talked about with the situation, he very likely meant "stupid broken" or "stupid good" and should be banned due to how good Diddy was
Leffen is straight up cancer yet the melee community accepts him more than HungryBox all because of their character choices. Says a lot about the melee community and their priorities right here tbh.
KoopaXross Leffen is openly...abrasive at times, let’s say. The difference is that he’s not trying to hide it, and doesn’t really personally attack people unless they do a first (he’s pretty harsh if he thinks your opinion is wrong, I will say). The reason people don’t like hbox is that he’s fake, and intentionally tries to make people feel bad for no reason. Leffen said as much, and there’s a reason virtually no one in the smash community defended hbox when Leffen tweeted about him. Mango on stream even said something along the lines of “everyone knows it’s true, but there’s no reason to talk about it.” Leffen is opinionated and doesn’t hide it-and while that isn’t a bad thing, I’ll concede at time I want him to tone it down. It’s much worse when someone tries to come off as a good person, and behind the scenes they are toxic.
@@jamarasonlamar6007 "intentionally tries to make people feel bad for no reason." What? How does he make them "feel bad"? By beating them? Boy you guys are desperate to validate your cancerous treatment of your players. No wonder this community is so terrible.
@@justinsmith5582 "What? How does he make them "feel bad"? By beating them?" Um...no? No, beating them isn't his way of trying to make people feel bad. You are right, using reasoning like that would be pretty desperate...that's why I'm not using it? Not sure why you imagined some bad logic out of thin air and then assumed that it's how I'm justifying what I'm saying. Mango and Armada---Armada, one of the nicest people in the community-, and Mango, who prettymuch gets along with everyone--are two other people who have gone on record saying that they don't like hbox. There's HugS, another respected person in the community, who's shown evidence that he doesn't like hbox. It was a long time ago so the VOD doesn't exist, but Shroomed, a generally happy guy, briefly said on stream at the time that leffen was right about hbox's personality. There are YT videos with stories of hbox being shitty towards people. There's a video of him cursing at someone for yelling a silly little chant during his smash 4 match. When Leffen made some pretty strong statements about hbox on twitter, there's a reason virtually no relevant community figures came to his defense. Imagine if leffen tried to say this about someone like axe, mew2king, etc. There would be big personalities in smash defending these people. There's nothing "desperate for validation" about the community disliking hbox after what's been revealed. What's desperate is when you make negative blanket statements about a community. It's also pretty desperate when you magically come up with reasoning out of thin air, assign that reasoning to an entire community, and then criticize the community for imagined agreement with imagined reasoning.
Sorry I was confused. I thought we were talking about reasonable adults here. Instead it's "Leffen and Mango are popular, so if they don't like someone that validates us hating and terrorizing him! Because the cool kids said it's ok!" I genuinely didn't realize the Smash community was still operating at a middle school level of maturity. It all makes a lot more sense now. I can definitely see why n oone would want to come to HBox's defense and be immediately ostracized from the entire community as Manga and Leffen and their cronies turn on them. Middle schoolers so often have trouble sticking up against the bullies and defending the people being picked on, especially when they aren't the target. What is this "silly little chant"? Was it when they all chanted "fuck HBox"? Or when they booed him at the Evo award ceremony? Or was it the time they threw an animal at him on stage? Once again we see the middle school mentality rear it's head though. "We've literally terrorized and bullied this kid for years. Now when he finally sticks up for himself, we get to frame him as the bad guy! That's what he gets for not being unpopular!" Thanks, your explanation has confirmed for me that the Smash community is working on a maturity level below that of any other competitive video game community. If anything my original post wasn't harsh enough.
People overreact about a lot of things. While playing Smash Bros. is one of my favorite things to do, it's still just a game. Please don't harass anyone, ever, but especially not over a video game.
"Sometimes the crowd gets out of hand." Yeah like the final bayo drama which resulted in the EVO life of melee ending. Out of hand is often a understatement. Smash crowds are insane like verbal moshpits.
Those Bayo players broke the EVO rules by stalling. The crowd booing wasn’t the problem, those clowns stalled the match and made a mockery of the entire community.
@@GalaxyMii CRTS aren't needed anymore thanks to the efforts of Hax$. But yeah, you've got the right of that, although its worth mentioning that Evo's TO kind of hated smash to begin with.
Imagine thinking that the final of Smash 4 was unfair,That's literally the most garbage example to use,they were arrogant players,despite being really garbage at the game, and broke rules by stalling,because ''nah,we are too good to fight''.
The Ryuga story is a classic example of throwing stones and trying to hide your hand. The crowd were talking shit knowing he's too distracted to do anything about it directly.
@@francis19SSJ2 well, what's bigger news, some people had beef in the past which is funny OR many members of the smash community including ZeRo are fucking pedos rapits and abusers.
HungryBox seems more of a genuine player than Leffen. HungryBox seems so sweet, and yet the melee community accepts Leffen more because of their character choices. Says a lot about the melee community.
5:28 This is LITERALLY my friend. He belittles everybody he plays with whether he wins or loses, legit ALL he does is hero down B and final smash I’m not even joking And he claims he’s better than me. If I ever play him again for god knows what reason I will “hard focus” him
Unfortunately "scrub" mentality exists everywhere. I actually dodge people who are like that. It fans the flames to beat them and they only get worse. Refusing to fight them is the only thing I've done that has atleast chilled their superiority complex.
I don't know if you've realized yet zero but... YOU REACHED 1 MILLION! WOHOOOO. You have been my idle since old smash 4 days. You're the reason why I play competitively to this day and I still honor you with all my heart. Great job Zero you finally did it. It's crazy when I think about it. Thank you for making me looking forward everyday to watching your videos and making me laugh. Don't give up on playing smash bros and making youtube and twitch videos for all of us.
There's a difference between broken characters and being good at a character and a lot of people don't know that, but I guess sometimes the character is legit broken?
Yes sometimes a character is broken. They have few weaknesses, many buffs, and can sometimes be unstoppable no matter the player unless the player is particularly bad. When a character is that strong that it can beat all other characters with a ton of ease, it's unfair that the person who plays that character will always have an advantage over everyone else.
You mean the Smash community doesn't know that. Only the Smash community consistently try to get characters banned or nerfed because they weren't their favorites and they won a tournament. Few characters in Smash after 64 have been legitimately broken. Only afew if them have been banned(ice climber wobbling for example). Most were left unbanned(base patch bayo, S4 diddy, etc). Issue I find with the Smash community is they tend to advocate for things based off feelings not facts. Thus creating alot of controversy between the majority of the player base and the players who actually understand fighting games and balance.
@@fourule9629 That's debatable. Sakurai nerfed everything except the one thing that really Needed nerfing.....her witchtime. That move alone is so f#@%ing ridiculous
Leffen is far better than his past. His personality is just kinda blunt and to the point which isn’t inherently bad. I think he plays up his role sorta like a “villian”. Leffen wasn’t doubting nairo as a player and he knows nairo is a much better player than he is in ultimate (not even a contest). But rather smash 4 isn’t really a game which relied on edgeguards and they aren’t worth while a lot of the time. Melee on the other hand, edge guarding is more important. Ultimate while plays closer to smash 4 has more of a weight to edge guards than smash 4. Therefore nairo and also smash 4 players in general are naturally not as good with edgeguards. Nairo didn’t even hold any beef with leffen and acknowledged he could be better which as you can see nairo now, is much better.
leffen didn't say nairo couldn't edgeguard, he said that nairo didn't go for edgeguards, because in the beginning of ultimate nairo played very similar to smash 4 and always stayed on stage. leffen was telling him, that he should go for edgeguards more often and nowadays nairo edgeguards quite a lot
He was critiquing Nairos use of side b as Palutana along with him not going off stage to hit opponents. Even so what of it? Are players not allowed to offer their opinions in this community? He wasn't toxic at all during the video, people are just sensitive and take his unfiltered manner of speech as being rude. If you want to see a actually rude Leffen look at him pre ban like stated in the video.
Zero can talk about these situations so inteligently. It is like having front row seats to the event itself in a way. Really cool for him to even talk about his own mistakes/controversies which really makes me respect him. Zero has grown so much and his content is heart-warming and hilarious.
Glad you brought the hbox scenario. That was my first smash tournament and they were about 4 rows behind me. Watched one smash 4 major prior but that pissed me tf off them doing that to him ngl. I didn’t even know who hbox was until that day and I felt bad.
When I think about people hating on others for something so pointless I imagine the kind of people who throw that hate and it makes me feel bad for them
Love this types of vids. You're able to bring a perspective that we would normally not have access to in a very neutral non bias way. Almost like getting that backstage/VIP pass into the smash scene.
"Look this video up yourself otherwise i'll have to censor" according to all my google searches and youtube searches a match between ryuga and sinji doesn't exist. Just link the vids you watch in the description my guy.
My experience with the pause rule, I went to a local and pause accidentally, my opponent didn’t care until he lost and said “you paused you lose that match” then ran around and got a TO until he got the TO to disqualify me from the match, and that did happen so I was pretty pissed that he cared until after he lost the match and the TO disqualified me (cause it was game 2 and I was down 1 match)
Pretty sure the universal rule is that if the opponent wants the stock gone for pausing, the decision has to be made right then and there. Otherwise, grimy technicalities like this would arise...”oh I can keep playing the set because if I lose, I have this leverage.” At the VERY least, you should have been able to do a one-game rematch if not just outright have won the set because the dude played on.
mr. Worldwide sooooo basically Esam was mad because Samsora wouldn’t help Esam with his peach match up before his tournament. So after Esam lost his set with peach he went up to the commentator’s mic and called Samsora a bitch if I’m not mistaken.
@@shadovvwolfie790 one time I saw a video where one of the people playing punches his opponent in the jaw after getting trash talked, but it was just one punch dont really know if that counts as a fight
@@reason9262 bruh what did he even do all I remember is salty females being toxic and taking advantage, but he’s on the weird end of the spectrum it seems.
I met HBOX in a Walmart once, I told him how big of a fan I was. He then gave me a hug and it felt very nice, until he up throw rested me and I died instantly.
You achieved comedy in UA-cam comment section
Hungrybox more like EEEEEE
I once met Hbox in a tournament and to show him my appreciation and love I threw a crab at him so he could eat it. He picked it up and saw the gift I gave him and smiled at it and then he got up and started yelling at the audience saying "WHO THREW THIS CRAB AT ME" "YOU SUCK" "THAT IS ANIMAL ABUSE" and walked away with the crab and I remained appaled that my generosity was met with resentment from my idol in a very scummy way
@@animephase9165 ._.
@@purinpuff1337 I didn't throw it
That first drama is sooo stupid.
Zero: "Hey can we ban Diddy? He's broken."
Everyone: "No."
Zero: "Oh okay then I guess I'll play Diddy. Cause he's still broken."
Everyone: "HOW DARE YOU THIS IS YOUR FAULT"
Kira Kusai it’s not a move of integrity by zero. I don’t care, but if you can’t handle the heat than get the fuck out of the kitchen
People are this dumb all over the world people look for everything to hate on if u won’t ban is use it too. Shoulda banned it like he said majority rule isn’t always right
Relatable
@@scottyjonas7592 Wtf lmao no, integrity is banning Diddy, or not banning Diddy and shutting the fuck up if competitive players abuse him.
It's the other way around dumbass. He played Diddy in the first place
Everyone gangsta until ZeRo takes out his Diddy in bracket.
Yeah
Atleast pre patch diddy.
yeah but ZeRo gangsta until someone turn out the toilet light and he had to do his business in the dark.
That could easily be taken out of context.
everyone gangsta until zero makes a sniperwolf thumbnail
American Crowds: *Yelling slurs*
Japanese Crowds: *golf claps*
European Crowds: *non-existent*
@@FrancisACNH LOL! U meanie! xD
@@FrancisACNH Idk abt the rest of Europe but in France they just like complaining about X things in smash (except Wario in Ultimate cuz Gluttony exists lol)
TorManiak Glutonny is the god of Wario mains
@@FrancisACNH That is what I said (right?), Wario isn't complained that much in France because of him lmao
The smash community drama never fails to interest me.
Me, but with just about every Internet drama. Pokémon in particular.
It's very entertaining tbh
Agreed
@@ShycoWar Oh my Arceus. Yes.
Sucks that people would hate on you just cuz u use a meta character? Like wtf. What else are they supposed to do? They aint there too lose.
Another 3 months later...
More controversy.
ZeRo: "Diddy is broken we should ban it."
Smash Community: "No."
ZeRo: Plays Diddy and does well.
Smash Community: "Why have you done this?"
Dude, It's the OTHER way around dumb fuck. He played Diddy before he said that
@@animephase9165 are you seriously getting angry and insulting him for one thing outta place??? Wow, you are one of the trash smash fans who are so toxic, it's not even funny.
You could have just pointed it out, but no, you insult him.
I think he meant to so his post like this:
Zero: *plays Diddy*
Zero: "yo, Diddy is broken, can we ban him?"
Smash community: *boos Zero and flips him off for making that suggestion*
Zero: "okay. I'll main him then"
Smash community: ** BuT yOu SaId We ShOuLd BaN hIm!1!1**
There you go, stop being toxic.
@@animephase9165 here i fixed it
ZeRo: Plays Diddy* "wow this character is pretty dumb my opponents can't do anything and it has nothing to do with my own skill"
Smash Community: " Nah Diddy is fine"
ZeRo: Plays Diddy, Opponents can't do much to win
Smash Community: "Diddy is so broken ZeRo why are you abusing this unfair character?"
@@hseanhill You didn't really have to go out of your way bro....
@Luminous Studios I was leaving a short comment pointing it out dumbass, I wasn't going out of my way bro...
The worst part about Leffen enforcing the pause rule and making Scar SD was the fact that, in doubles, if you lose your last stock and your teammate has another stock you press the pause button to "take the stock" from your teammate and rejoin the game. Obviously it's better to have two players with one stock rather than a 2v1 with two stocks. Scar died, thinking he was on his last stock, and mashed pause to try and get back in a quickly as possible and help SFAT. Because he wasn't on his last stock, this caused the game to actually pause.
What Leffen did was completely supported by the rules, but it's honestly an exploit that few players would use because of how scummy it is.
I'm sure Zero knows this, I just wanted to add context for some viewers that may be unfamiliar with the mechanics of doubles matches.
Rules are rules man. If it isn't enforced then there shouldn't be any at all. Yeah it's taking advantage, BUT, it's in the nature of ANY sport, and we as a community should respect the rule and the player taking the decision
Diego As grimy as it may seem, I support this. Scar outplayed himself by being unaware of his stock count, so his accidental pausing could be akin to a misinput like missing a wave dash near the ledge.
There was so much incriminating evidence that showed Leffen to be extremely toxic as a person + competitive smash player, but this was a very weak example imo. Here he just seems like a cold-hearted stickler to the rules, which is actually fairly common given the cutthroat nature of the competitive FGC...maybe not so in this particular melee circle where they prized chumminess over their own rule set.
@@TheCleanProphet
*"which is actually fairly common given the cutthroat nature of the competitive FGC"*
What does the competitive FGC have to do with Smash Bros?
WakkaSeta Are you implying that Smash Bros - a fighting game played competitively - is not part of the Fighting Game Community?
I understand that many see smash as the black sheep of the FGC, but it’s still a part of it.
If this is truly considered scummy by a majority the rules should be changed to accommodate this. Rules have to be pushed and exploited if they're ever going to be correct. this is called stress testing and all sets of rules need to be stress tested before they can be made correctly. Sometimes stress testing occurs in environments we don't prefer but we should just consider that a part of the history of that rules development.
That’s kinda badass how Ryuga powered up from the hate and flexed on his haters by winning the set
Bro do you know where to see the full video?
I need a link
Landon Ham 3:50 ua-cam.com/video/qAvIq5tOJco/v-deo.html
@@beyondblue9485 shiit he was ready to beat the crap out of him
When people shit talk the last thing you want to do is prove them right by losing 😆
"Hey guys, I think Diddy is broken strong!"
Plays Diddy
"WOW Zero is such a hypocrite playing a character he said was strong"
No, what he said was that Diddy was stupid and he should be banned
@@AsakuraEX He was summarizing the tweet and seeing as the rest of his posts he shows on screen as well as the rest of what he talked about with the situation, he very likely meant "stupid broken" or "stupid good" and should be banned due to how good Diddy was
omg true
Makes sense
Leffen is straight up cancer yet the melee community accepts him more than HungryBox all because of their character choices. Says a lot about the melee community and their priorities right here tbh.
KoopaXross Leffen is openly...abrasive at times, let’s say. The difference is that he’s not trying to hide it, and doesn’t really personally attack people unless they do a first (he’s pretty harsh if he thinks your opinion is wrong, I will say).
The reason people don’t like hbox is that he’s fake, and intentionally tries to make people feel bad for no reason. Leffen said as much, and there’s a reason virtually no one in the smash community defended hbox when Leffen tweeted about him. Mango on stream even said something along the lines of “everyone knows it’s true, but there’s no reason to talk about it.” Leffen is opinionated and doesn’t hide it-and while that isn’t a bad thing, I’ll concede at time I want him to tone it down. It’s much worse when someone tries to come off as a good person, and behind the scenes they are toxic.
“leffen’s a bitch, but he’s our bitch” -something mango said in summit
@@jamarasonlamar6007 "intentionally tries to make people feel bad for no reason."
What? How does he make them "feel bad"? By beating them?
Boy you guys are desperate to validate your cancerous treatment of your players. No wonder this community is so terrible.
@@justinsmith5582 "What? How does he make them "feel bad"? By beating them?"
Um...no? No, beating them isn't his way of trying to make people feel bad. You are right, using reasoning like that would be pretty desperate...that's why I'm not using it? Not sure why you imagined some bad logic out of thin air and then assumed that it's how I'm justifying what I'm saying.
Mango and Armada---Armada, one of the nicest people in the community-, and Mango, who prettymuch gets along with everyone--are two other people who have gone on record saying that they don't like hbox. There's HugS, another respected person in the community, who's shown evidence that he doesn't like hbox. It was a long time ago so the VOD doesn't exist, but Shroomed, a generally happy guy, briefly said on stream at the time that leffen was right about hbox's personality.
There are YT videos with stories of hbox being shitty towards people. There's a video of him cursing at someone for yelling a silly little chant during his smash 4 match. When Leffen made some pretty strong statements about hbox on twitter, there's a reason virtually no relevant community figures came to his defense. Imagine if leffen tried to say this about someone like axe, mew2king, etc. There would be big personalities in smash defending these people. There's nothing "desperate for validation" about the community disliking hbox after what's been revealed. What's desperate is when you make negative blanket statements about a community. It's also pretty desperate when you magically come up with reasoning out of thin air, assign that reasoning to an entire community, and then criticize the community for imagined agreement with imagined reasoning.
Sorry I was confused. I thought we were talking about reasonable adults here.
Instead it's "Leffen and Mango are popular, so if they don't like someone that validates us hating and terrorizing him! Because the cool kids said it's ok!"
I genuinely didn't realize the Smash community was still operating at a middle school level of maturity. It all makes a lot more sense now.
I can definitely see why n oone would want to come to HBox's defense and be immediately ostracized from the entire community as Manga and Leffen and their cronies turn on them. Middle schoolers so often have trouble sticking up against the bullies and defending the people being picked on, especially when they aren't the target.
What is this "silly little chant"? Was it when they all chanted "fuck HBox"? Or when they booed him at the Evo award ceremony? Or was it the time they threw an animal at him on stage? Once again we see the middle school mentality rear it's head though. "We've literally terrorized and bullied this kid for years. Now when he finally sticks up for himself, we get to frame him as the bad guy! That's what he gets for not being unpopular!"
Thanks, your explanation has confirmed for me that the Smash community is working on a maturity level below that of any other competitive video game community. If anything my original post wasn't harsh enough.
What about that time zero 'snuck' his way into hungryboxes tournament scandalous
Danarchy Definitely smash drama
hilarious video
Or the time he snuck into a minors dms
A UFC Fighter once played Smash while his Tesla was on autopilot
Which fighter?
Tony Ferguson is the type of guy to do that
@@whaledicknachos4341 kevin lee
@@TS-lo6qs Where does Kevin lee fit into all this ?
@@chadrikicuris lmao
7:43 I never noticed the cheeks until now
Lol
Why would you say that, my eyes
People overreact about a lot of things. While playing Smash Bros. is one of my favorite things to do, it's still just a game. Please don't harass anyone, ever, but especially not over a video game.
It's not just a video game. It's my life. I live smashing bros and not taking showers
@@isiss3659 sad
The phrase "it's just a game" is such a weak mindset.
Lol, have you told competitors that this is a party game? It's like you out their while life on blast
Ronjii Ninja, is that you?
Damn. This title is pretty dated.
ZeRo’s reactions are so insightful because of his knowledge of the game. Whenever he make a reaction video i always click it. Keep it up ZeRo!
And also because 90% of the people in these clips he’s talked to and/or slept in their houses.
Thanks President Nixon, very cool
8:22
Zero is the wholesome hero we needed
This aged badly
Love how you tell us the details of each controversial moment.
"Sometimes the crowd gets out of hand."
Yeah like the final bayo drama which resulted in the EVO life of melee ending. Out of hand is often a understatement. Smash crowds are insane like verbal moshpits.
Those Bayo players broke the EVO rules by stalling. The crowd booing wasn’t the problem, those clowns stalled the match and made a mockery of the entire community.
It wasn't related to melee death though, that was separate
That had nothing to do with melee. Getting CRTs to lug everywhere got too expensive basically. And one series taking up two spaces is kinda unfair
@@GalaxyMii CRTS aren't needed anymore thanks to the efforts of Hax$. But yeah, you've got the right of that, although its worth mentioning that Evo's TO kind of hated smash to begin with.
Imagine thinking that the final of Smash 4 was unfair,That's literally the most garbage example to use,they were arrogant players,despite being really garbage at the game, and broke rules by stalling,because ''nah,we are too good to fight''.
The Ryuga story is a classic example of throwing stones and trying to hide your hand. The crowd were talking shit knowing he's too distracted to do anything about it directly.
Theyre all mostly beta males who have never been in a real fight.
That’s why it’s so messed up. Obviously he was going to go after that punk the moment he won 😆
Still racist tho.
No one:
Not a single soul:
ZeRo reacting to smash videos: "so let me give you some context"
Finally someone who doesn’t comment about his recent controversy
@@francis19SSJ2 well, what's bigger news, some people had beef in the past which is funny OR many members of the smash community including ZeRo are fucking pedos rapits and abusers.
@@baldoggie zero isn’t a rapist bro, he asked for nudes, he still shouldn’t have done that but don’t call him a rapist for that
whoa. we can still leave comments here.
I still dislike Leffen cuz of his beef with Hbox
they made up, they aren’t beefing anymore.
You should see that recent drunk picture of them together. Its pretty funny lol.
snoteleks where is it?
@@GavN2319 hboxs twitter i believe.
I never did like Leffen. He apoligized but he's still not the friendliest person. He can still be harsh sometimes.
4:03 Ey, my video archive made it in
Congrats for 1M!!!
HungryBox seems more of a genuine player than Leffen. HungryBox seems so sweet, and yet the melee community accepts Leffen more because of their character choices. Says a lot about the melee community.
Comgrats to 1.000.000 Subs ZeRo ❤️❤️
10 o’clock every day
Congrats on 1 mil btw
Do you live in the east coast in the USA?
1am every day
Anonymous S Ontario
9:00 for me 😄
1m subs congrats Zero
Oh oh
Recent news is rough
Yo 1 million subs! Congrats dude!
I can't imagine taking a crap in the dark good grief
yare yare
@@nuclearbomb9483 FUCK I WAS TOO LATE
Congrats on a million
Everyone: Smart and funny comments
Me: *wHy diD hE cHanGe ThE tiTle*
Bold of you to assume we are smart
What’s the original video for the crowd chanting “fuck hungry box”?
Congrats on your 1 million subs
The first rule of ZeRos channel is we don’t talk about Zeros channel is to our parents
Why is that??
English???
how did 122 people understand this comment?
What lmao
DbzFlipz how do I delete someone else’s comment
ONE MILLION! this is incredible dude!
Congrats ZeRo for reaching 1 million subs!
Congrats on 1M ZeRo!!
I know why you're here.
Don't lie.
It hurts so much
Jacob Groves I won’t lie to you I don’t think it’s going to ever feel better
@@slurpingmario8006 Me either
I'm just hear for the juicy content nothing out the ordinary.
Yeah for the funny comments
Congrats on the 1m Zero❤️
This should be titled “links to very controversial smash bro’s moments”
Love the v2: goodbye dispare music choice
THE EMPLEMON SHOUTOUT
We made it bois
Welcome ZeRo to the Downward Spiral.
Mr. Hippo as in Mr hippo?
It's never ogre, Zero
Finally... Emps Downward Spiral final smash hits ZeRo!
𝐄. 𝐌 . 𝐏. lemon
I appreciate Zeros ability to be objective about this drama and be informative instead of antagonistic.
5:28
This is LITERALLY my friend. He belittles everybody he plays with whether he wins or loses, legit ALL he does is hero down B and final smash I’m not even joking
And he claims he’s better than me. If I ever play him again for god knows what reason I will “hard focus” him
play without items?
Imagine playing with final smash on and claiming to be good. XD
bro just play sonic and spam homming attack, it will drive him insane
Unfortunately "scrub" mentality exists everywhere. I actually dodge people who are like that. It fans the flames to beat them and they only get worse. Refusing to fight them is the only thing I've done that has atleast chilled their superiority complex.
Sage898 __ ^ exactly
I don't know if you've realized yet zero but... YOU REACHED 1 MILLION! WOHOOOO. You have been my idle since old smash 4 days. You're the reason why I play competitively to this day and I still honor you with all my heart. Great job Zero you finally did it. It's crazy when I think about it. Thank you for making me looking forward everyday to watching your videos and making me laugh. Don't give up on playing smash bros and making youtube and twitch videos for all of us.
There's a difference between broken characters and being good at a character and a lot of people don't know that, but I guess sometimes the character is legit broken?
Yes sometimes a character is broken. They have few weaknesses, many buffs, and can sometimes be unstoppable no matter the player unless the player is particularly bad. When a character is that strong that it can beat all other characters with a ton of ease, it's unfair that the person who plays that character will always have an advantage over everyone else.
You mean the Smash community doesn't know that. Only the Smash community consistently try to get characters banned or nerfed because they weren't their favorites and they won a tournament.
Few characters in Smash after 64 have been legitimately broken. Only afew if them have been banned(ice climber wobbling for example). Most were left unbanned(base patch bayo, S4 diddy, etc).
Issue I find with the Smash community is they tend to advocate for things based off feelings not facts. Thus creating alot of controversy between the majority of the player base and the players who actually understand fighting games and balance.
Bayonetta is still broken
@@ottosantiagolassus not anymore tho
@@fourule9629
That's debatable.
Sakurai nerfed everything except the one thing that really Needed nerfing.....her witchtime. That move alone is so f#@%ing ridiculous
I don’t know what it it’s about ZeRo’s dancing... but it just always puts a smile on my face. 😆
Leffen is still an ass to people lmao, just not in tourneys 👀
Remember when he said Nairo can't edgeguard, that was hilarious karma
He wasn't wrong. Nairo couldn't edge guard, did u watch the clip? He didn't leave the stage once. Nairo is good at it now, but back then he didn't
Leffen is far better than his past. His personality is just kinda blunt and to the point which isn’t inherently bad. I think he plays up his role sorta like a “villian”. Leffen wasn’t doubting nairo as a player and he knows nairo is a much better player than he is in ultimate (not even a contest). But rather smash 4 isn’t really a game which relied on edgeguards and they aren’t worth while a lot of the time. Melee on the other hand, edge guarding is more important. Ultimate while plays closer to smash 4 has more of a weight to edge guards than smash 4.
Therefore nairo and also smash 4 players in general are naturally not as good with edgeguards. Nairo didn’t even hold any beef with leffen and acknowledged he could be better which as you can see nairo now, is much better.
leffen didn't say nairo couldn't edgeguard, he said that nairo didn't go for edgeguards, because in the beginning of ultimate nairo played very similar to smash 4 and always stayed on stage. leffen was telling him, that he should go for edgeguards more often and nowadays nairo edgeguards quite a lot
*What'd he do brother?
He was critiquing Nairos use of side b as Palutana along with him not going off stage to hit opponents.
Even so what of it? Are players not allowed to offer their opinions in this community? He wasn't toxic at all during the video, people are just sensitive and take his unfiltered manner of speech as being rude. If you want to see a actually rude Leffen look at him pre ban like stated in the video.
Zero can talk about these situations so inteligently. It is like having front row seats to the event itself in a way. Really cool for him to even talk about his own mistakes/controversies which really makes me respect him. Zero has grown so much and his content is heart-warming and hilarious.
The hbox documentary is amazing, it is a must watch for melee fans.
Glad you brought the hbox scenario. That was my first smash tournament and they were about 4 rows behind me. Watched one smash 4 major prior but that pissed me tf off them doing that to him ngl. I didn’t even know who hbox was until that day and I felt bad.
I miss Billie the Destroyer and infiltrating streamer’s lobbies...
Ikr :(
Saaaame
It has been only a week since the last sneaking in steamer's lobbies
Yo congrats on a Mil my GUY
If you think about it, if everyone subscribed then that means ZeRo would have 2mil
I love this series and congratulations on 1m zero
Congratulations on 1.01M subscribers! I hope you gain more throughout the year and I hope you get all the support you need. :)
Crowd: talks shit
Smash player: turns around
Crowd: "it's only just a game, why do you have to be mad"
Sounds like you have 1 more Smash Bros controversy to add to this list
Arturo Ramirez comedy
THATS not something to joke about
I'm so happy you mentioned EmpLemons vid, it's incredible and puts many things into perspective
Literally I just rewatched controversial Smash moments with Zero yesterday
When I think about people hating on others for something so pointless I imagine the kind of people who throw that hate and it makes me feel bad for them
We need an update
Maaaaaan, i just discovered that you are from Chile!, greetings from here
Yeah EmpLemon’s vid on Hbox was so god tier dude
Me: Hey I won a major with Little Mac! The Whole Smash Community: Let's plan a murder.
8:32 Can we get an *F in the Chat* for ZeRo’s poop in the dark?
Love this types of vids. You're able to bring a perspective that we would normally not have access to in a very neutral non bias way. Almost like getting that backstage/VIP pass into the smash scene.
I hear you having a variety of OST playing in the background. Give Va-11 Hall-A some love it deserves!
Congrats on a million subs man! I’m sure you’ll hit 2 soon!
"Look this video up yourself otherwise i'll have to censor" according to all my google searches and youtube searches a match between ryuga and sinji doesn't exist. Just link the vids you watch in the description my guy.
Lewd that’s a very interesting pfp of Marth you got there
ua-cam.com/video/qAvIq5tOJco/v-deo.html
The clip is at 3:46
Im trying to watch the whole thing not just ryuga getting upset and reacting
*Give me the sauce for your pfp*
@@diohandingdal9865 🙄🙄🙄
Happy 1 million zero! Our thicc boi.
Oh how the turn tables
oh how the English works
Ryuga was like Goku using everyone's hate to create a spirit bomb of negativity to beat the oponent.
Well, I think everything in this list just got overtaken in the span of about a week. Looks like it's time for part 3 homie.
Congrats on 1 million subscribers ZeRo! Proud of how far this channel has gotten!
My experience with the pause rule, I went to a local and pause accidentally, my opponent didn’t care until he lost and said “you paused you lose that match” then ran around and got a TO until he got the TO to disqualify me from the match, and that did happen so I was pretty pissed that he cared until after he lost the match and the TO disqualified me (cause it was game 2 and I was down 1 match)
1. Your opponent is scum
2. Getting DQ'd was objectively the wrong call
3. Contact the TO because that's grimy af
Pausing=/=lose the match. That was objectively the wrong call for the TO to do.
Pretty sure the universal rule is that if the opponent wants the stock gone for pausing, the decision has to be made right then and there. Otherwise, grimy technicalities like this would arise...”oh I can keep playing the set because if I lose, I have this leverage.”
At the VERY least, you should have been able to do a one-game rematch if not just outright have won the set because the dude played on.
Congrats on 1,000,000 my dude!!
I kind of want Zero to talk about the ESAM and Samsora drama
What's that about
Yeah i would like some insight on what happened
Wut
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mr. Worldwide sooooo basically Esam was mad because Samsora wouldn’t help Esam with his peach match up before his tournament. So after Esam lost his set with peach he went up to the commentator’s mic and called Samsora a bitch if I’m not mistaken.
Congratz on the 1 Million Subscribers
3:57 It's pronounced *EMP* Lemon (like the first syllable of emperor)
Great video! I just couldn't stop looking at that mysterious stain on the carpet in the bottom right 🐕💩👀
this didnt age well
Congrats on one mil ZeRo!
This aged badly lol.
omg your soooooooo cool
History repeats itself am I right zero?
Well THIS aged poorly.....
Yes
What happened?
I just like when zero is talking.And then danganronpa music is playing in the background.
So... have there actually been full blown fights in Smash tounaments or is this the closest thing so far?
Technically this is the closest to a 1v1. The crowd has thrown stuff at contestants before.
These nerds are all bark no bite
@@shadovvwolfie790 one time I saw a video where one of the people playing punches his opponent in the jaw after getting trash talked, but it was just one punch dont really know if that counts as a fight
Congratulations ZeRo on reaching 1 Million!
Community: *hates on ZeRo*
Monokuma Plush: "THIS IS NO WAY TO TREAT YOUR PRINCIPAL"
Congrats on 1mil ZeRo!!!
4:44 this part of the video might be the reason that leffen tried to cancel you
can't be letting any new players actually know the scummy shit he did. God I hate him so much
@@reason9262 bruh what did he even do all I remember is salty females being toxic and taking advantage, but he’s on the weird end of the spectrum it seems.
I was about to say that too 😂
Congrats on 1 mill subs dude!
"EMP lemon" emperor lemon Zer0, Emperor Lemon
YOU HIT A MILLION SUBS!!! CONGRATS ZERO.
Me a person who never watched smash sets: So what do I have to look up exactly for the sinji video.
You and me both. We should check Omni.
clips.twitch.tv/AbstruseAntsyCatSuperVinlin
Paps ty
But where is the actual set?
@@paps3060 lol is that ZeRo at the end of the clip?
ONE MILLION MY MAN!!
Good job! I'm so happy for you