22-250 brings the heat. I open the bolt and stand rifle vertical leaned against post or wall to cool every so often. Barrel acts like a flue and drafts cool air in from the bottom...good for barrel life.👍
Michael McIntosh correct, however it’s easier and more accurate to measure right edge of the hole to the right edge of the furthest hole if that makes sense or left to left etc.
Yes, actual group size is center-to-center. Otherwise, no group could be less than the bullet hole diameter. This rifle manufacturer and the heavy barrel combination will digest almost anything accurately. Use a slender barrel contour and see what happens next time. The harmonics of a slender contour are much more difficult to isolate.
I own a ruger m 77 heavy varmint barrel . I consistently fire .250” groups @ 100 yds with 38.4 gr of varget over 40 gr vmax bullets. Wicked on yotes & whistle pigs. Running 4100 FPS. It is rare to find your accuracy node at max recommended charge/pressure. Real pleased.
Howdy from Sacramento! I have the Savage 12FCV in 22-250. Awesome rifle and deadly accurate right out the box. 40gr Sierra Blitzkings over 39.0 grains H380 and a CCI 250 primer. 4021fps and smaller than a dime 6 shot groups at 100yds. Flatter than heck and makes the squirrels go pop! Happy reloading!
Excellent shooting I have good luck with IMR 4064 in my 22-250s but I also have a pound of that reloder 16 so I may have to play with that a little bit keep up the good work.
Bro, I love 22-250 and savages. Plus one like. My go to load for 52-53 Gn pill is 34.5gn of imr4064. Gets me high 3600's. Also the ole stand by is 38gn h380.
I run H380 as well. Can't go wrong. As a matter of fact, I haven't seen a bad powder combo with this bullet yet. This just goes to show that a Savage 22-250 will just shoot. I don't mind the reduction of speed with RE-16. Upper 3400fps is still a screamer. Those chucks aren't going to out run it either way. Thanks and happy shooting!
You should look at one. Low barrel pressure. Beats a 22-250 at 300+ yards. Even less recoil. Bc of .275 with a Hornady 40 g v max. Devastating on coyotes
Thanks! And yeah you won’t be disappointed. I have an entire playlist on this rifle if you want to see more of it. Over 23 videos featuring this rifle.. definitely a favorite.
Great groups! I have a can of RL16 and didn’t even think about using it in the .22-250. I may have to give that a try in my Savage. I noticed your group measurements were outside edge to outside edge. I usually report mine center to center. If you subtract the bullet diameter or measure inside edge to outside edge that will give you the center to center number. These groups are even more impressive reported that way. Thanks for the video!
No I have just been running the 36.5gr charge at the standard seating depth ever since this video. I consider this my go to load now and have used it in many videos. Check out some of my hunting content and you'll see it in action.
I've shot 52 gr hornady hp with 37grs of h414 for years but had to switch to 460 powder 37 grs with great accuracy less than 1/2 inch groups every time pushing around 3700 fps
Just curious how often and how do you go about cleaning your barrels? I have used wipe out in my tikka for years with great results. Lately have been trying to go longer between cleaning to allow more copper fouling but have not seen much of an improvement. Great shooting its always uplifting to have a range day with groups like that!
Thanks, haven't heard from you in a while. Haha. I'm still trying to find the sweet spot on when to clean, when not to. I think it's good to not clean until you witness a change in your accuracy. In this case, it was probably around 100-150 shots since I did any cleaning. I don't know exactly. I just used a wet patch of Hoppes Elite gel. I did two passes with a nylon brush and then a pass with a Bore Snake. That was probably just enough to knock out the excessive carbon and didn't do much to the copper. It obviously worked for the better. But if cleaning often works for you, keep on doing it. There's no sense in fixing what is not broken.
Just like bullets n powder work in one rifle & not the next so is cleaning. Some every 50-60 shots clean, others every 200 I've even heard 300 shots before cleaning. I Alwaya try to swab some gun oil after every shooting & dry patch when i pull it back out to shoot.
It says you used new Lapua brass for this test? Was it a case your brass was getting old in your last video? I know after i get 5 or 6 firings on my brass it isnt near as accurate as the first few. Im going to try getting into annealing my brass to fix this. Good shooting.
Very good question. It was new brass in the last video as well. I just loaded the last 30 pieces of virgin Lapua brass today with, you guessed it, 36.5gr RE16. I bought 100 pieces of Lapua when I realized that I couldn't find Nosler brass in 22-250 anymore. So once I get it all fired once I will be sizing and re-evaluating my accuracy. Annealing might help in your case. I've seen where reaming and turning the necks can help tremendously. I haven't done any of this myself, I'm just referring to videos I saw. Thanks for watching.
@@ChuckinTV Yea sounds good I just bought some Lapua cases not too long ago also. So far am very happy with them. Gotta love when you try a new powder like that and it shoots better then your "go to" load. Now to see if it can do it consistently. Keep the vids comin.
Have you ever tried the bergara b14 hunter 22-250? If not you should! I've shot 5 different bergara rifles in 5 different calibers and every one has shot 1/2 or less at 100 yards. Great rifles is all I can say about them.
I bought enough 53gr Varmageddons to turn this Savage into a smooth bore. I'm not too concerned with testing other bullets. I haven't tried a powder in this rifle yet that has disappointed me. 4895 probably would be a great powder for these light bullets. Thanks!
are you subtracting .220 from the way your measuring there ? Because your not measuring center to center unless u have your calipers set at -.220 when closed being your measuring one edge to other edge vs same edge (right to right or left to left ) or center center of hole .
I was just going for outside diameter measurements here. You would want to subtract .224 for the center to center. .224 is the actual diameter of the bullets
Hey buddy.. this don't relate to this gun much.. and I know u shoot more reloads than that of factory ammo.. but, I was wondering if u have shot any federal premium gold Berger ammo? If so, what kind of accuracy did u get out of it?
I haven’t tried any factory loaded Bergers. I will say that Federal generally shoots good. It’s probably worth trying out. Your gun will either like it or not.
Yes I agree with that. The way I do it is do my load work up first then put the magneto speed on for the speeds. It’s alittle more time consuming but if your not in a hurry why not. I enjoy your videos especially the whistle pig hunting. I do a lot of that also my longest shot on one was 736yrds with a 300wm I also have a 6.5x47 lapua that I use great round not to popular yet here in the states everybody is crazy about the 6.5 creedmor. Please check some of my videos at groundhog hunting dan c and also dan c. Thanks!!!. Where do ya hunt? Here in pa? Just wondering.
I might try a Magneto at some point. A buddy of mine offered to let me borrow his. I think they have the potential to read the velocities more consistently. However, I don't want to do accuracy testing (load development) with them due to the fact that they are attached to the barrel. I think they would play with the barrel harmonics. So the accuracy node would be different with one attached versus one that is not attached. I think the Magneto would be a better way to measure a load that is proven to be accurate. I hope that makes sense. Thanks for watching.
It's really confusing to me because I have a a 22 250 New England arms Handy rifle, stainless steel bbl, That will shoot a half inch group all day long at 100 yards, I see so many people shooting $2000 rifles or do you think they can't even do that. Maybe we need to rethink this.
No. I’m sorry that didn’t come out respectful. But we and you can’t tell what is your load/gun accuracy and what is your sloppy technique. Half grain intervals is too much. You’ll miss sweet spots.
How can you expect to get good groups? You don’t have anything to steady your gun at the rear?? You seem to shoot too fast. You say you are an idiot. Why keep acting like one??
bill shamblin Sir this is by far the most ignorant and dumb commentary I’ve ever received on any video. And I’ve seen some doozies over the years. You must’ve missed the part where I have a sand bag under the rear throughout the whole video. Second, I guess you don’t understand how editing works to shorten the time between shots. I suppose my one hole groups could’ve been tighter if it wasn’t for my “sloppy” technique.
22-250 brings the heat. I open the bolt and stand rifle vertical leaned against post or wall to cool every so often. Barrel acts like a flue and drafts cool air in from the bottom...good for barrel life.👍
good video & good shooting. Always impressed by the Savage 110. An affordable rifle that shoots 1/2 MOA. Can't beat that.
Aren't you supposed to measure center to center?
Michael McIntosh correct, however it’s easier and more accurate to measure right edge of the hole to the right edge of the furthest hole if that makes sense or left to left etc.
@@MrAndy7316 But he didn't... He measured far edges.
Yes, actual group size is center-to-center. Otherwise, no group could be less than the bullet hole diameter. This rifle manufacturer and the heavy barrel combination will digest almost anything accurately. Use a slender barrel contour and see what happens next time. The harmonics of a slender contour are much more difficult to isolate.
I own a ruger m 77 heavy varmint barrel . I consistently fire .250” groups @ 100 yds with 38.4 gr of varget over 40 gr vmax bullets. Wicked on yotes & whistle pigs. Running 4100 FPS. It is rare to find your accuracy node at max recommended charge/pressure. Real pleased.
Howdy from Sacramento! I have the Savage 12FCV in 22-250. Awesome rifle and deadly accurate right out the box. 40gr Sierra Blitzkings over 39.0 grains H380 and a CCI 250 primer. 4021fps and smaller than a dime 6 shot groups at 100yds. Flatter than heck and makes the squirrels go pop! Happy reloading!
40gr vmqx superformance rips 4200. Hodgdon makes the superformance powder . Get up onnnnnn it.
Looks to me like the Savage is going to earn it's keep. Nothing better than finding a rifles sweet spot right off the git go.
Can't complain too much when it's bad groups are still under an inch. Can't wait to do more with it! I'm a fan of your videos by the way.
I like both of your videos.
Excellent shooting I have good luck with IMR 4064 in my 22-250s but I also have a pound of that reloder 16 so I may have to play with that a little bit keep up the good work.
Bro, I love 22-250 and savages. Plus one like. My go to load for 52-53 Gn pill is 34.5gn of imr4064. Gets me high 3600's. Also the ole stand by is 38gn h380.
I run H380 as well. Can't go wrong. As a matter of fact, I haven't seen a bad powder combo with this bullet yet. This just goes to show that a Savage 22-250 will just shoot. I don't mind the reduction of speed with RE-16. Upper 3400fps is still a screamer. Those chucks aren't going to out run it either way. Thanks and happy shooting!
Unbelievable accuracy! 22-250’s are a blast. Got myself a 204 ruger in a tikka t3 varmint. Haven’t even had it out yet.
Awesome. I'm a pretty big Tikka fan here. It should be a good shooter.
You use any 204’s?
I haven't tried a 204.
You should look at one. Low barrel pressure. Beats a 22-250 at 300+ yards. Even less recoil. Bc of .275 with a Hornady 40 g v max. Devastating on coyotes
@@leftshooter3241 Maybe someday. It would be a good caliber to mount my scope cam to.
Morning buddy 😁 👍 🇬🇧. Happy to see it's coming together. Bloody great mate. Keep it up mate your doing great. ATB Andy 🇬🇧 👍
Thanks! I'm pretty happy with it.
Great video I'm thinking that should be my next gun
Thanks! And yeah you won’t be disappointed. I have an entire playlist on this rifle if you want to see more of it. Over 23 videos featuring this rifle.. definitely a favorite.
Great groups! I have a can of RL16 and didn’t even think about using it in the .22-250. I may have to give that a try in my Savage. I noticed your group measurements were outside edge to outside edge. I usually report mine center to center. If you subtract the bullet diameter or measure inside edge to outside edge that will give you the center to center number. These groups are even more impressive reported that way. Thanks for the video!
Thanks. I'm pretty happy with the 36-36.5gr range.
@@ChuckinTV U ever try reloader 10x ?
You should measure from the center of the hole to center, not from outside
Great shooting!
you had some great groups with the rl 16 ,will you vary your seating depths for any further testing ??
No I have just been running the 36.5gr charge at the standard seating depth ever since this video. I consider this my go to load now and have used it in many videos. Check out some of my hunting content and you'll see it in action.
Correct me if i'm wrong you measure center to center not outside.
You can just subtract the bullet diameter from the outside measurement to get the center to center.
Wow! She definitely likes the Re-16. I’d say you have found your node between the 36, 36.5 charges
I don't think I could go wrong with either charge or somewhere in the middle. Thanks.
I've shot 52 gr hornady hp with 37grs of h414 for years but had to switch to 460 powder 37 grs with great accuracy less than 1/2 inch groups every time pushing around 3700 fps
Nice test !
Just curious how often and how do you go about cleaning your barrels? I have used wipe out in my tikka for years with great results. Lately have been trying to go longer between cleaning to allow more copper fouling but have not seen much of an improvement. Great shooting its always uplifting to have a range day with groups like that!
Thanks, haven't heard from you in a while. Haha. I'm still trying to find the sweet spot on when to clean, when not to. I think it's good to not clean until you witness a change in your accuracy. In this case, it was probably around 100-150 shots since I did any cleaning. I don't know exactly. I just used a wet patch of Hoppes Elite gel. I did two passes with a nylon brush and then a pass with a Bore Snake. That was probably just enough to knock out the excessive carbon and didn't do much to the copper. It obviously worked for the better. But if cleaning often works for you, keep on doing it. There's no sense in fixing what is not broken.
Just like bullets n powder work in one rifle & not the next so is cleaning. Some every 50-60 shots clean, others every 200 I've even heard 300 shots before cleaning. I Alwaya try to swab some gun oil after every shooting & dry patch when i pull it back out to shoot.
It says you used new Lapua brass for this test? Was it a case your brass was getting old in your last video? I know after i get 5 or 6 firings on my brass it isnt near as accurate as the first few. Im going to try getting into annealing my brass to fix this. Good shooting.
Very good question. It was new brass in the last video as well. I just loaded the last 30 pieces of virgin Lapua brass today with, you guessed it, 36.5gr RE16. I bought 100 pieces of Lapua when I realized that I couldn't find Nosler brass in 22-250 anymore. So once I get it all fired once I will be sizing and re-evaluating my accuracy. Annealing might help in your case. I've seen where reaming and turning the necks can help tremendously. I haven't done any of this myself, I'm just referring to videos I saw. Thanks for watching.
@@ChuckinTV Yea sounds good I just bought some Lapua cases not too long ago also. So far am very happy with them. Gotta love when you try a new powder like that and it shoots better then your "go to" load. Now to see if it can do it consistently. Keep the vids comin.
@@rtrapper4life Thanks!
@@ChuckinTV Get up onnnnnnnn IT , The annealeez that is. Works goodA.
Have you ever tried the bergara b14 hunter 22-250? If not you should! I've shot 5 different bergara rifles in 5 different calibers and every one has shot 1/2 or less at 100 yards. Great rifles is all I can say about them.
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Great video. Good job.
NUCLEAR STUDIO Thanks!
That 22-250 should shoot small groups all day long ol buddy try some imr 4895 with a nosler 50-55 gr if you hadn't already
I bought enough 53gr Varmageddons to turn this Savage into a smooth bore. I'm not too concerned with testing other bullets. I haven't tried a powder in this rifle yet that has disappointed me. 4895 probably would be a great powder for these light bullets. Thanks!
40g vmax and 38g h380 have given me half moa groups past 200 yards with my 110
What distance are you shooting in savage videos?
James Steelman 100yds when I’m paper shooting.
May just be the video but looks like your rear scope Mount doesn't have full contact my bad closer look I saw the rail
Try 41 grains h 380 55 grn nobler in a Winchester case cci b r primer
are you subtracting .220 from the way your measuring there ? Because your not measuring center to center unless u have your calipers set at -.220 when closed being your measuring one edge to other edge vs same edge (right to right or left to left ) or center center of hole .
I was just going for outside diameter measurements here. You would want to subtract .224 for the center to center. .224 is the actual diameter of the bullets
Start at max then adjust up 1half down 1 half.
Only one good group 36.5 gr.....you should clean the barrel after every shooting session to keep it conditioned the same!
Hey buddy.. this don't relate to this gun much.. and I know u shoot more reloads than that of factory ammo.. but, I was wondering if u have shot any federal premium gold Berger ammo? If so, what kind of accuracy did u get out of it?
I haven’t tried any factory loaded Bergers. I will say that Federal generally shoots good. It’s probably worth trying out. Your gun will either like it or not.
Yes I agree with that. The way I do it is do my load work up first then put the magneto speed on for the speeds. It’s alittle more time consuming but if your not in a hurry why not. I enjoy your videos especially the whistle pig hunting. I do a lot of that also my longest shot on one was 736yrds with a 300wm I also have a 6.5x47 lapua that I use great round not to popular yet here in the states everybody is crazy about the 6.5 creedmor. Please check some of my videos at groundhog hunting dan c and also dan c. Thanks!!!. Where do ya hunt? Here in pa? Just wondering.
I hunt in NY.
38gr. Of H 380 is very good load , will produce a dime group
I shot 38gr of H380 in my last video. It usually shoots ragged holes.
H380 is my go to powder in my old 700v
Twist rate of barrel?
1-12
try a magneto speed chrono works way better!!!!
I might try a Magneto at some point. A buddy of mine offered to let me borrow his. I think they have the potential to read the velocities more consistently. However, I don't want to do accuracy testing (load development) with them due to the fact that they are attached to the barrel. I think they would play with the barrel harmonics. So the accuracy node would be different with one attached versus one that is not attached. I think the Magneto would be a better way to measure a load that is proven to be accurate. I hope that makes sense. Thanks for watching.
I agree with Chuckin, i fail to see how a chrono attached to the barrel can give you proper barrel harmonics;it has to change your accuracy node.
It's really confusing to me because I have a a 22 250 New England arms Handy rifle, stainless steel bbl,
That will shoot a half inch group all day long at 100 yards, I see so many people shooting $2000 rifles or do you think they can't even do that. Maybe we need to rethink this.
36.5 grs of RE-16 looks like your load for that rifle.
Yep! That's what I'm still feeding this thing. We have over 20 videos on this rifle alone. It has been awesome.
No. I’m sorry that didn’t come out respectful. But we and you can’t tell what is your load/gun accuracy and what is your sloppy technique. Half grain intervals is too much. You’ll miss sweet spots.
bill shamblin Thanks for your valuable input. I needed a good laugh today
If you look really close at those small groups you can tell it is photoshopped because of how it is.
Haha. It's way easier to just shoot those groups than to create them with CG. The target was at 10ft, that's how I did it.
Lol :-)
How can you expect to get good groups? You don’t have anything to steady your gun at the rear?? You seem to shoot too fast. You say you are an idiot. Why keep acting like one??
bill shamblin Sir this is by far the most ignorant and dumb commentary I’ve ever received on any video. And I’ve seen some doozies over the years. You must’ve missed the part where I have a sand bag under the rear throughout the whole video. Second, I guess you don’t understand how editing works to shorten the time between shots. I suppose my one hole groups could’ve been tighter if it wasn’t for my “sloppy” technique.
That is horrible accuracy you should get much better than that.