Forza has always been the game to get if you can't drive, honestly letting the game semi-drive by itself is the biggest improvement of the series because it at least reduces the amount of online lobbies filled with 12 year olds who don't know where the brake button is and ram you off at T1
>Crashes into other cars, rear ends them constantly >No penalty >Another car crashes into FM guy from the side, no fault of the FM guy at all >0.5 penalty
It’s literally not an ai, it’s just a combination of assists keeping the car following the racing line, with no “intelligence” to speak of. It won’t pit, it won’t overtake unless by accident, and it will simply drive to wherever the racing line says to go and at what speed it says to go and brake when the racing line says to brake, with zero regard for any other racing conditions. It is literally designed not to be used this way yet still somehow functions enough to beat some actual players.
Another Eden video another good day, now we got Eden taking part in the "Built From The Ground Up" meme. A good video this will be, and with a new rivalry contender for GT guy, FM guy is here to make things go boom.
The editing is always on point, but on this video, it stands out as being just perfect. The reworded song lyrics are just the cherry on top that the video needed
4:05 Thriller by Michael Jackson 6:20 My Songs Know What You Did In The Dark (Light Em Up) by Fall Out Boy 14:49 Come Together by The Beatles 17:53 Revolution 9 by The Beatles 19:53 Ave Maria by Franz Schubert 31:19 I don't know this one
As someone grinding this game hoping one day it will be on par with FM7 or FH5… some little interesting things for multiplayer racing. The qualifier series is a short duration race, meant to be a race without pit stops on medium compound, medium duration races are meant to include 1 pit stop, or on some tracks with proper tire management, no pit stops on hard compound is possible. Forza’s stock tunes in this game are extremely poor, and in many cases just fixing some quick things like tire pressure and camber/toe can be a few seconds improvement in lap time, another few seconds out of a full in-depth tune. “Built from the ground up” as we’ve been saying in the community… that statement is only true if the foundation was laid a few hundred feet below ground. Penalty system is still a broken mess, often times the victim is handed the penalty as the ai that handles the penalty believes that if someone was braking and the other wasn’t, the one that wasn’t braking is at fault… so a driver beginning to accelerate out of a corner will usually be handed a penalty instead of the driver behind that missed the braking point and sent them to the shadow realm.
When you run out of fuel it basically just disables the throttle and you coast until you stop while the engine is still running somehow. Then you have to manually quit
They brought back the a.i. driving in fm7. But it was much better. You could change you driver to drive : smooth to save tires, normal or aggressive to pass and make up ground
That was a very nice and interesting experiment. I bet people will use this in offline custom races to just increase the car level. It is almost like a B-spec. (Almost as you have to change the settings)
When I was doing it, I realized that it's not actually full throttle and when you hold the throttle while the AI does it, it gots faster and still does everything else perfectly. Just faster.
Letting Forza drive for you is like leaving the EU- mandated Lane- Keeping- Assist on in a new car and sse how fast it will crash on its own :) So funny how Forza Guy insists on ramming before overtaking := The rest of the AI is crazy in a packed setting, cant believe how racing games still struggle with that. The newest Automobilista 2 update made a great leap in that department...
i can tell, this forza are absolutely "BEST AI GAME" ever. Even sometimes you can clear that game with just doing nothing. Just buy/get a car, and then hire some Forza Guy to drive it and then just watch the game. This game is recommended for "Skill Issue" or "typical some manager game" player, lol but, hey. this is quite interesting. GT B-Spec vs Forza Autoplay. There's are GT guy and Forza guy, hmmmm....
Seeing how shit this game is makes me reaaaally worried about Horizon 6…. 2024 might be the complete death of the Forza series and that is very sad considering I’ve been playing since FM3. With games like GTA 6 in 2025, Test Drive, Pacific Drive, Assetto Corsa 2, and a few others, If Horizon 6 flops, Forza could very much be discontinued as a series. I genuinely hope Horizon 6 can pull the Forza series from the depths of hell and become a giant of racing games.
forever hoping that racing game fans get amazing games again... Kinda just hoping that TDUSC blows us away when it releases. I am very impressed by the accessibility competency in this game, actually being competent will make it actually useful for those that need it.
The AI of this game is so broken it made me rage quit and uninstall. Not only it's bad, it's suicidal. They launch themselves onto other AI and the player at every chance they get. I had to restart a race 5 times because the AI was causing a massive incident at the first turn. I'm actually surprised the driving assists work fairly well.
Dustin,you should make a challenge about crashing in gran turismo,like if you crash youre car in a race,you have to sell 1 car,you can still crash youre rivals,but you cant touch sand and kiss the wall,the license test doesnt count
I hate almost every direction this game has gone in, the career, the car levels, driver level meaning nothing. But goddamn the actual driving and multiplayer have kept me coming back every day. 4.8k Ranking safety a and almost every race is a banger.
@@worldwar1424 honestly im only playing it cause nothing else to play right now, but the multiplayer has been a blast and even then the hoppers are garbage. The rest of the game is a shitty empty shell, id hate to have actually paid money for this.
@@lakie92 I’m glad you had some type of fun though that’s good to see, I usually just stick to the older titles ☠️ I might just uninstall it though I really don’t play it, spent 12 hours and gotten fed up
@@lakie92same here, I play it just because of the actual driving physics, I hope they fix all the other broken aspects because this game is valid, despite often being frustrating to play.
Because of the blind assists. It also does narrate most of the menus and it's improving with each update. Despite what people think I like the game and it's my first time ever playing an accessible racing game on console.
The fact that he wasn't the only AI driver almost made me choke from laughter
Exactly it was the peak 😂
Would people just turn the assists on for like a race or two as they took a break to do something else instead of turning the game off?
In todays episode of the DustinEden Cinematic Universe, Dustin completely loses it and starts talking to his walls
The DCU? Sounds like an incoming lawsuit. Well, 2 lawsuits
*The DECU
Loose and lose are different words btw
Lol I read this in Jeremy Clarkson's Top Gear intro voice.
That's what can happen if enough blunt force are applied to a brain. And he did mention he had a motorbike crash so... 😉🤷
I can see why IGN gave this game such a good review
😂😂
Game award for best sports/racing game of the year. F1 23 or Crew Motorfest should've gotten it.
When the devs add a game reviewers difficulty option
Forza has always been the game to get if you can't drive, honestly letting the game semi-drive by itself is the biggest improvement of the series because it at least reduces the amount of online lobbies filled with 12 year olds who don't know where the brake button is and ram you off at T1
@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN but auto driving is not exactly ideal
>Crashes into other cars, rear ends them constantly
>No penalty
>Another car crashes into FM guy from the side, no fault of the FM guy at all
>0.5 penalty
Gran Turismo Sport™ moment
@@zacariascisneros6399GT Sport was so anal with contact, clean races in 7 are way too easy
i couldn't even do the online races because everyone would try to just ram me off the track and i would get the penalty for it.
@@dandrawsit4915so WHAT
This is a peak gaming when you can have fun without doing anything
well, technically talking is considered as doing something...
This editor's musicality is never to be underestimated
jamesvariety is goated
"con te the ground up" 2023, James Variety
the fact that this AI that drives like a sunday driver is still managing to beat actual players is fkn hillarious to me.
Most competant online Forza players
It’s literally not an ai, it’s just a combination of assists keeping the car following the racing line, with no “intelligence” to speak of. It won’t pit, it won’t overtake unless by accident, and it will simply drive to wherever the racing line says to go and at what speed it says to go and brake when the racing line says to brake, with zero regard for any other racing conditions. It is literally designed not to be used this way yet still somehow functions enough to beat some actual players.
@@corneliusmcmuffin3256 It drives more competent than the average forza player xD
You can make the AI pit by using the pit entry assistant
"A strange game, the only winning move is not to play."
Incredible work as always, you really are the unsung hero of these vids
@@LtDesu
you should seriously make full versions of the songs you make and release them on your channel
Seriously these songs are so good they need to be heard in their entirety.
The "built from the ground up" bit by James is really funny
Eden wins by doing Absolutely Nothing
Literally says that in the title but ok
He has become L U I G I
This comment was generated by AI, the commenter has done absolutely nothing
@@carmasterInitialgamin2201 same thought lmao
Colin from nfs carbon?
Crazy how tourist trophy completely fucked up dustin. Seriously though love that there's continuity
Forza made this the B-Spec mode because they can’t just make a new AI
Another Eden video another good day, now we got Eden taking part in the "Built From The Ground Up" meme. A good video this will be, and with a new rivalry contender for GT guy, FM guy is here to make things go boom.
Developed by devs who don´t care about cars or racing, aimed for people who don´t care either, you get games like this
6:53 I find it funny you said this because the traction control on Mustangs is known for being garbage
“We are playing this game by doing absolutely nothing.“
FM: „And I take that personally“
*disconnect controller*
The editing is always on point, but on this video, it stands out as being just perfect. The reworded song lyrics are just the cherry on top that the video needed
whats the original song?
4:05 Thriller by Michael Jackson
6:20 My Songs Know What You Did In The Dark (Light Em Up) by Fall Out Boy
14:49 Come Together by The Beatles
17:53 Revolution 9 by The Beatles
19:53 Ave Maria by Franz Schubert
31:19 I don't know this one
Okay, last one is Tattoos & Bruises by Honeycutts
@@MuscleCarLover but its a cover parodying forza lol
19:53 might actually be Time To Say Goodbye by Andrea Bocelli and Sarah Brightman
Remember, guys.
"Built from the ground up."
can't wait to see "Luigi wins Forza Motorsport by doing absolutely nothing" videos now. thank you dusty edna for the wonderful video lmao
I cant unhear superGTs "get in there" and "hes done it" everytime Dustin says it.
I mean, if you really think about it..
This is practically Forza Motorsport's equivalent to Gran Turismo's *B-Spec* mode.
Gran Turismo: "We deleted B-Spec"
Forza Motorsport: "Fine, we add it ourselves"
But without the B-Spec features
F-Spec
Tbf, b-spec was kind of in forza motorsport 1
@@CyanRooper L-Spec
As someone grinding this game hoping one day it will be on par with FM7 or FH5… some little interesting things for multiplayer racing.
The qualifier series is a short duration race, meant to be a race without pit stops on medium compound, medium duration races are meant to include 1 pit stop, or on some tracks with proper tire management, no pit stops on hard compound is possible.
Forza’s stock tunes in this game are extremely poor, and in many cases just fixing some quick things like tire pressure and camber/toe can be a few seconds improvement in lap time, another few seconds out of a full in-depth tune.
“Built from the ground up” as we’ve been saying in the community… that statement is only true if the foundation was laid a few hundred feet below ground.
Penalty system is still a broken mess, often times the victim is handed the penalty as the ai that handles the penalty believes that if someone was braking and the other wasn’t, the one that wasn’t braking is at fault… so a driver beginning to accelerate out of a corner will usually be handed a penalty instead of the driver behind that missed the braking point and sent them to the shadow realm.
B-Spec but without paces and overtake button. And less aggressive than B-Spec GT Guy
When you run out of fuel it basically just disables the throttle and you coast until you stop while the engine is still running somehow. Then you have to manually quit
They brought back the a.i. driving in fm7. But it was much better. You could change you driver to drive : smooth to save tires, normal or aggressive to pass and make up ground
Certified "BUILT FROM THE GROUND UP" gameplay.
Fully Assisted brakes: "We will automatically brake to avoid rearending cars"
"Why won't this b spec driver overtake?"
9:37 Ocon when he starts side by side with his teammate
These small sketches are just beyond hilarious! XD
Bro your editor has some damn good pipes lmao - that note at like 4:05 sounds like it would be really tough to hit right ahahah
That was a very nice and interesting experiment.
I bet people will use this in offline custom races to just increase the car level.
It is almost like a B-spec. (Almost as you have to change the settings)
Alternative title: How to get B-Spec mode in Forza Motorsport 2023
When I was doing it, I realized that it's not actually full throttle and when you hold the throttle while the AI does it, it gots faster and still does everything else perfectly. Just faster.
At this point James needs a full salary. Dude is a whole ass new character in this channel. AND editing these top notch videos!
i want the full "built from the ground up" song
Technically... This video is absolutely build from the groundup
GT Guy, VS FM Guy, our battle will be legendary
Forza Motorsport, the game where you can win by not playing the game.
It really FEELS like it's Built From the Ground Up™
absolutely the funniest way for this channel to cover FM8. makes me feel bad for liking it even a little bit
This reminds me to "luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing"
Thanks for the standing aviation 💗
Appreciated 💗
Dustin's videos never disappoint! And James' work as an editor and the things he adds to make the videos next level are just chef's kiss!
At least the AI sticks to the racing line and doesn't brake randomly, that's better than most players
So glad to see you live doing this!
*+5 PENALTY - Commenting*
This is funniest Dustin video I ever watch 😂👍
You know what’s funny? You could have done this in FH5 pre-nerf
Eden is the type of guy I edge to
Sorry what?
Excuse me but what the f
Huh
@@JoseLeonardoMP you read it right
Bro?
That balloon...could it possibly be James Pond, the 16-bit hero?
James Pond, oh my god you unlocked me a childhood memory
🤣
The skill level for of Forza players is amazing
This editing plus the songs are amazing holy crap
AKA: Ethan finds out why turn 10 had to limit the payout for the goliath in horizon 5
This video summarizes Forza Motorsport perfectly. An absolute husk of a game. What are they even doing over there at turn 10?
Theyre too busy having orgies with playground games (surprisingly pgg seems to have learned their lesson apart from micro transactions)
Pause no.1, due to massive LOLs: 4:14... 🤣🤣🤣
DANKE SCHÜN!
Ngl the devs could have created online B-Spec with Drivatars. I don't understand why they don't have this idea yet.
Imagine getting rammed and getting a penalty for getting rammed
TIME TO PLAY FORZA (by not playing Forza)
Forza but dustin is part of the chat watching him play
Such a lot of broken mess moments 🤣🤣🤣
fun fact: you can do this in mario kart 8 deluxe too
I need to try this
Now THIS is content!
the AI driver was a bit *too* realistic for Forza standards. 🤭
Eden actually "played" it hot damn
Brain dead AI is better than average forza player
Letting Forza drive for you is like leaving the EU- mandated Lane- Keeping- Assist on in a new car and sse how fast it will crash on its own :)
So funny how Forza Guy insists on ramming before overtaking :=
The rest of the AI is crazy in a packed setting, cant believe how racing games still struggle with that. The newest Automobilista 2 update made a great leap in that department...
Those "tap to pass" .. The A.I. actually makes better passes than the typical FM player.
certified dustineden moment
I should be doing this.
You were able to hire a driver in the first 2 games, then you can hire Forza guy in Forza Motorsport 3 to 4.
Man! I don't know what is the most disappointing here, that you can bring the assists into multiplayer or that you can beat other humans with them.
bro became L U I G I
DustinEden is really good at FM8
i can tell, this forza are absolutely "BEST AI GAME" ever. Even sometimes you can clear that game with just doing nothing.
Just buy/get a car, and then hire some Forza Guy to drive it and then just watch the game. This game is recommended for "Skill Issue" or "typical some manager game" player, lol
but, hey. this is quite interesting. GT B-Spec vs Forza Autoplay. There's are GT guy and Forza guy, hmmmm....
Seeing how shit this game is makes me reaaaally worried about Horizon 6…. 2024 might be the complete death of the Forza series and that is very sad considering I’ve been playing since FM3. With games like GTA 6 in 2025, Test Drive, Pacific Drive, Assetto Corsa 2, and a few others, If Horizon 6 flops, Forza could very much be discontinued as a series. I genuinely hope Horizon 6 can pull the Forza series from the depths of hell and become a giant of racing games.
“I don’t trust the Ford”
More true words have never been spoken
forever hoping that racing game fans get amazing games again...
Kinda just hoping that TDUSC blows us away when it releases.
I am very impressed by the accessibility competency in this game, actually being competent will make it actually useful for those that need it.
Nah, solar crown will turn into a disaster.
@@hero6405 What makes you say that?
@@CWINDOWSsystem32possibly its gameplay reveal with a bunch of youtubers
The AI of this game is so broken it made me rage quit and uninstall. Not only it's bad, it's suicidal. They launch themselves onto other AI and the player at every chance they get. I had to restart a race 5 times because the AI was causing a massive incident at the first turn. I'm actually surprised the driving assists work fairly well.
Dustin,you should make a challenge about crashing in gran turismo,like if you crash youre car in a race,you have to sell 1 car,you can still crash youre rivals,but you cant touch sand and kiss the wall,the license test doesnt count
What are Edens Neighbors thinking when he is talking to his walls or his gaming setup
I hate almost every direction this game has gone in, the career, the car levels, driver level meaning nothing.
But goddamn the actual driving and multiplayer have kept me coming back every day. 4.8k Ranking safety a and almost every race is a banger.
You're an xbox soy boy, praising the basic thing in AAA game, multiplayer it's not a main priority
I’m a forza fan (frankly a fan of anything with a car in it) and I cannot get myself to play it. Fm6 is the best modern forza Motorsport title.
@@worldwar1424 honestly im only playing it cause nothing else to play right now, but the multiplayer has been a blast and even then the hoppers are garbage. The rest of the game is a shitty empty shell, id hate to have actually paid money for this.
@@lakie92 I’m glad you had some type of fun though that’s good to see, I usually just stick to the older titles ☠️ I might just uninstall it though I really don’t play it, spent 12 hours and gotten fed up
@@lakie92same here, I play it just because of the actual driving physics, I hope they fix all the other broken aspects because this game is valid, despite often being frustrating to play.
Yo i want the full Built from the ground up song man
6 years of "development" and built from the ground up btw
As a fan of the game series. I wonder how this garbage is chosen as the winner of sports game of the year jesus😂
4:05 6:20 14:49 19:53 31:18
budget was spent all on music, thats why we couldnt see FM guy
TOTAL TURN10 HUMILIATION
I did NOT expect to find fly as the background music randomly💀
Now we are watching gameplay of someone not playing the game, I want more!
I have the maximum safety rating in this game, which makes me very happy. Don’t ask about my performance rating though…
Built from the ground up!!!!!!
The penalty system in this game is so scuffed I tell you.
Let’s not forget this game won innovation in accessibility for this. Why.
Because of the blind assists. It also does narrate most of the menus and it's improving with each update. Despite what people think I like the game and it's my first time ever playing an accessible racing game on console.
Tbh I wonder if the version of windows is part of the issue with the game as I play it on windows 10 and it don't break this often
B spec rocking gg forza
can't be the only one who thought of AVGN with the metal gear music at the beggining
a sentient honda civic beats real people
at first i thought, didnt i see this already but then i saw my own chat messages lmao
Bro we knew this works already. They had this in FM Horizon 5. Farmed out so many cars on Goliath 10 hour Runs while i was at work lol.
this video was built from the ground up
@Dustin you accidentaly invented Forza Motorsports Manager :)