This is what I love about the modding community; they can turn something shoddy like WC3:R and turn it to something grand like this. Lemons to lemonade indeed.
At this point you realize Cho'Gall is Samir Duran of Warcraft. Funny part is that he doesn't hide his powers yet nobody suspects of him for being a servant of a far greater power.
Well, not yet. I think Cho'Gall became a servant of a far greater power later in the timeline, long after the Second War had concluded. At this point, the Twilight's Hammer is just a clan within the Horde... it became an evil apocalyptic cult later ;)
Normally I don't care about typos in the dialogue lines, but when the dwarves tell teach other to "fight for your lives ladies" when they meant laddies, it's pretty funny.
Two headed ogres were beyond rare and always more magically inclined. An interesting fact, I could never quite parse if the novelization implied Gul'dan used the runestone to mutate regular ogres into two-headed ones, or if he just artificially empowered them with magic. The Twilights Hammer was always geared more towards complete Armageddon even as they maintained special loyalties to Gul'dan and his Stormreavers. The old gods and void weren't a concept back then, but I always thought it was interesting how they were realigned with them. Before the greater cosmology was invented, it just made sense they'd fall in with them. I remember scouting entire maps pixel by pixel with the Eye of Kilrogg. I always loved seeing orcish catapults in places like the wetlands and elwynn in World of Warcraft, it was nice attention to detail that, back then, the original games hadn't been forgotten. The writing on Cho'gal is exceptional. He didn't have a unique voice in WC2, but his interpretation in Cataclysm later was fun. Mystery... My knowledge fails me here, but I suspect it's related to Alexstrasza?
0:36 Surprised that Shamanism is still practiced in the Horde as in the lore, it was discarded in favor of the power of the Fel during the First and Second Wars. Before Thrall brought Shamanism back when becoming leader of the reformed Horde.
I think there's room for this sort of story where a few old shaman are heros with the player stand in being more in line with Thrall's thinking. As long as they don't have regular shamans as troops I don't think this retcon is that immersion breaking.
Actually, Zuluhed has _consistently_ been referred to as the last true Shaman within the Old Horde, and one of the few, if not the ONLY one that refused to turn to Fel Magic when abandoned by the Elements. At worst, the retcon here is that Azeroth's elements were willing to answer him.
@@najacipedo6898 No, the Tides of Darkness novel explicitly states he did _not_ turn to Demonic Magics, out of distrust for Gul'dan and a distaste for said demonic magics. He did end up taking up Demonic Magics by the time of Burning Crusade in World of Warcraft, but around the time of the Second War, he was still distrustful of Gul'dan and Demon magics; lorewise, Nekros himself had studied Demonic magics as well with Gul'dan, but actually turned away from Gul'dan to focus his loyalty on his clan, instead. It's why Zuluhed trusted him with the Demon Soul.
@@Blazieth wasn't that retconned?, Also didn't the elements stop answering the shamans calls which is why most (if not all) turned to fel magic and became warlocks? so how is Zuluhed still a shaman if he doesn't have the powers of a shaman?
For someone having the titled of wacked, Zuluhead quickly become my favourite Horde Character. He is like Zul'jin except for the fact that he has no daddy issue and his people respected his wisdom. A true shaman that can communicate to the spirit and excel in observing his surrounding. Additionally, I love that all orc has a connection to some degree with the spirits unlike modern orc, i think. Zuluhead ability kit showcased here is also very great.
Always thought cho'gall was awesome.Something about an insane two headed ogre who was taught by the most sinister orc in history just clicked right with me.
>4:36 *MAIN:* Cho & Gal Ghetto Patrol. >7:48 *OPTI:* BH Search & Rescue. >9:26 *OPTI:* Upseted Megafauna. >14:51 *OPTI:* Onyx Dragon Figma. >16:49 Mission Conclusion. >Why is Utok not a Hero? He's the MC. >0:42 Tastes like 🐔 & smells like 🐟. >1:47 Cho'Gall name's like Chinese Food. >3:21 What do i look like, an Protoss? >5:31 Combine Scanners Be Like: >8:51 Where Not Put A Bazaar 101. >13:57 "Weakling! WEAKLING!" >18:08 They prefer "Size Challenged". >Cho'Gall is an Average Rich Brat.
This is what I love about the modding community; they can turn something shoddy like WC3:R and turn it to something grand like this. Lemons to lemonade indeed.
At this point you realize Cho'Gall is Samir Duran of Warcraft. Funny part is that he doesn't hide his powers yet nobody suspects of him for being a servant of a far greater power.
But there is one thing that makes him better then Duran.
Cho is strong but cunning. And Gall is cunning, but strong.
@@thorgrimgrudgebearer6844Ogres in AoS be like.
I keep forgetting Void magic is supposed to be this super special secret thing... it just always seems to be on a lower tier than Fel magic to me.
Well, not yet. I think Cho'Gall became a servant of a far greater power later in the timeline, long after the Second War had concluded. At this point, the Twilight's Hammer is just a clan within the Horde... it became an evil apocalyptic cult later ;)
@@AlexeiVoronin Where did he get void powers in that case? Idk if Chogall had void powers in real Warcraft 2 though
Normally I don't care about typos in the dialogue lines, but when the dwarves tell teach other to "fight for your lives ladies" when they meant laddies, it's pretty funny.
I love how the orcs have distinct personalities, not just "hurrr, kill stuff", despite being unrepentant bad guys.
Two headed ogres were beyond rare and always more magically inclined. An interesting fact, I could never quite parse if the novelization implied Gul'dan used the runestone to mutate regular ogres into two-headed ones, or if he just artificially empowered them with magic.
The Twilights Hammer was always geared more towards complete Armageddon even as they maintained special loyalties to Gul'dan and his Stormreavers. The old gods and void weren't a concept back then, but I always thought it was interesting how they were realigned with them. Before the greater cosmology was invented, it just made sense they'd fall in with them.
I remember scouting entire maps pixel by pixel with the Eye of Kilrogg.
I always loved seeing orcish catapults in places like the wetlands and elwynn in World of Warcraft, it was nice attention to detail that, back then, the original games hadn't been forgotten.
The writing on Cho'gal is exceptional. He didn't have a unique voice in WC2, but his interpretation in Cataclysm later was fun.
Mystery... My knowledge fails me here, but I suspect it's related to Alexstrasza?
0:36 Surprised that Shamanism is still practiced in the Horde as in the lore, it was discarded in favor of the power of the Fel during the First and Second Wars. Before Thrall brought Shamanism back when becoming leader of the reformed Horde.
I think there's room for this sort of story where a few old shaman are heros with the player stand in being more in line with Thrall's thinking. As long as they don't have regular shamans as troops I don't think this retcon is that immersion breaking.
Actually, Zuluhed has _consistently_ been referred to as the last true Shaman within the Old Horde, and one of the few, if not the ONLY one that refused to turn to Fel Magic when abandoned by the Elements. At worst, the retcon here is that Azeroth's elements were willing to answer him.
I think he began practicing dark magics that the other warlocks were using but he was still considered a shaman? So he was like a dark shaman.
@@najacipedo6898 No, the Tides of Darkness novel explicitly states he did _not_ turn to Demonic Magics, out of distrust for Gul'dan and a distaste for said demonic magics.
He did end up taking up Demonic Magics by the time of Burning Crusade in World of Warcraft, but around the time of the Second War, he was still distrustful of Gul'dan and Demon magics; lorewise, Nekros himself had studied Demonic magics as well with Gul'dan, but actually turned away from Gul'dan to focus his loyalty on his clan, instead. It's why Zuluhed trusted him with the Demon Soul.
@@Blazieth wasn't that retconned?, Also didn't the elements stop answering the shamans calls which is why most (if not all) turned to fel magic and became warlocks? so how is Zuluhed still a shaman if he doesn't have the powers of a shaman?
For someone having the titled of wacked, Zuluhead quickly become my favourite Horde Character. He is like Zul'jin except for the fact that he has no daddy issue and his people respected his wisdom. A true shaman that can communicate to the spirit and excel in observing his surrounding. Additionally, I love that all orc has a connection to some degree with the spirits unlike modern orc, i think.
Zuluhead ability kit showcased here is also very great.
My headcanon is they didn't just take a zeppelin to get here because Cho'Gall is too heavy for one.
In the original WC2, it's actually Badlands... but Wetlands makes more sense geographically, considering the location of Grim Batol.
Always thought cho'gall was awesome.Something about an insane two headed ogre who was taught by the most sinister orc in history just clicked right with me.
Exciting to see the rest of this remake😊.
Man, I love that marshy music from WoW.
>4:36 *MAIN:* Cho & Gal Ghetto Patrol.
>7:48 *OPTI:* BH Search & Rescue.
>9:26 *OPTI:* Upseted Megafauna.
>14:51 *OPTI:* Onyx Dragon Figma.
>16:49 Mission Conclusion.
>Why is Utok not a Hero? He's the MC.
>0:42 Tastes like 🐔 & smells like 🐟.
>1:47 Cho'Gall name's like Chinese Food.
>3:21 What do i look like, an Protoss?
>5:31 Combine Scanners Be Like:
>8:51 Where Not Put A Bazaar 101.
>13:57 "Weakling! WEAKLING!"
>18:08 They prefer "Size Challenged".
>Cho'Gall is an Average Rich Brat.
>Cho & Gal Ghetto Patrol deleted scene: drive.google.com/file/d/1r89Yn0cPdtdOXkI1RVnRavrLrESAZHSQ/view?usp=sharing
Let the war begin
1:09 Orcs will never be free unless they take down Mannaroth, the source of the blood they drank from and become bound to the Demons.
He used Eye of Killrog but doesn't bat an eye when Killrog himself talks to him.
Cho seems to be the more rational of the two while Gall seems to be the more crazy of the two but they're both equally evil and dangerous.
17:55 these Old orcs should have made two ogrees out of the ogree magi. That unkillable bastard.
1:57 Cho'Gall is dangerous than he looked and he serves the Old Gods, Zuluhed
I've never seen this 3D modeling on 'Refored'.
Was it newly created by the gamer? And I understand Warcraft 2 doesn't have voice recordings.