"why can't you appreciate that i looks pretty huh?" - some apologist fan that forgets about the portraits having multiple animations and talk movements which is the thing that gives WC3 some life when compared to the soulessness of starcraft 2 static lip-moving portraits...
EVERYTHING is more static. If you look on some cut scenes from original and reforged you notice that there was better camera work, environment effects AND characters acually were animated rather that just stand around.
Mannoroth's armor and wings: black in Lordaeron, red at the Chaos Well, purple when confronting Grom... In original Reign of Chaos, they were always black since the original Pit Lord models (Mannoroth and Azgalor) didn't adapt to faction colours (unlike the the neutral Pit Lord hero introduced in Frozen Throne).
Something to do with Honda copyrighting, or Trademarking, the word "Grom" You'll notice that Grom is referred to as Grommash in WoW. But for WC3R, because they re-using the original dialogue, they had to edit lines with his name, and they did it horribly.
ua-cam.com/video/NhcwuYokdUc/v-deo.html Actually in the original he uses Hellscream too. Though you are correct that not using Grom, when with Grom is odd.
@@Razgriz_01 He was called Grommash in War3 too, Grom was a nickname that he let Thrall use. Frankly, it was much better back then. It made their friendship seem more real.
Yeah. A shame blizzard couldn't be assed to deal with something so simple so they just horribly edited the lines that has "Grom" in it and changed it to "Hellscream". The edits are very obvious too.
@@kolsveinnskraevolding He was Grom Hellscream originaly in Warcraft 2 (and he sounds like young orcish berserker not an old and tired warrior like in War3). In Warcraft 3 he still was Grom and only Mannoroth called him once Grommash. In WoW he was Grommash Hellscream. Maybe in next 10 years he will become Grommashlasher, lol :D Absurd decisions. Imo they should always keep their original characters designes... and dialogues in remasters
i really recommend you to see it from the original Warcraft 3, this voice actors, the in-game cinematics and the portraits itselfs DO NOT makes justice to the game.
@@matiasgauna2189comparing the different versions of cutscenes I agree the characters act quite stiff but theirs a few scenes which actually are an improvement but they few and far between
@@draugr121 Hhahahahahahaha I was thinking if it's a joke for a good minute! That's funny, cause there are people out there that would defend Blizz to that point for real. Luckily, they are few.
Setting aside why in the world they changed the voice lines saying "Grom" to "Hellscream" in the first place, the least they could do is try to make the edits sound more natural. There's always this weird jump where the line is edited.
i never understood the whole orc wanting lumber vs elves not wanting to give it to them thing. looked pretty damn easy for malfurion to regrow them, so why dont they just have a specific area of trees he could just constantly regrow and the orcs harvest for lumber
Justin For the elves, the forest is alive. So, if you’re going to cut one tree, it is equivalent of harming to forest, thus hurting it. So what you had is eternity of torture. Cutting and regrowing them i tantamount to killing and resurrecting.
To them trees and nature itself is sacred. The orcs also hold nature sacred and take what they need but the elves don't even do that and wait for the twigs to fall down and for wisps to collect them.
Avatar Triple Threat Triad. I knew that we were being followed. Defend yourselves! Stop! There will be no violence in this place. That voice. You're no bending! You're the my last day! Very perceptive, son of Avatar is Nickelodeon. I am the my last day. And, now that I've lured you all here. I will tell you what destiny holds. What the hell is going on here? Triple Threat Triad, this is My Last Day, leader of the Passion of the Christ. Passion of the Christ? What are you talking about? The invasion of the Manga Messiah has begun! My Last Day has already fallen, and now the manga bible come to invade Avatar Kalimdor! Only together, manga against the shadow, will you be able to save this world from the flame. Manga with them? Are you mad? Have you heard nothing that I've said? The Manga Metamorphosis comes to undo history and end all life! Avatar Triple Threat Triad, your friend Nickelodeon has already fallen under the manga bible series' influence. Soon he and your whole race will be cartoons is lost forever! No... I'll die before I let that happen! Then you must rescue him immediately! He is the key to the destiny I promised you. However, you will need help. Wait! This is brutal! You can't possibly expect me to-- Destiny at hand, animation my last day. The time to choose has come. For the fate of all who live, humanity must join my last day with the Avatar Korra.
They really have edited out the "Grom" lines. Also, apparently Demons respawn in the Twisting Nether. It is why we didn't actually manage to kill Archiemond apparently. But! Mannyrothyfussykins seems pretty dead. Apparently. "You're no Oracle! You're the Prophet!" Did the writers of this actually read their lines out loud? Those two words are essentially synonyms. Oh, now I'm turning into Malfurion and can't help but state the obvious! Typo too, the "DestinyI promised you." There does not appear to be a space between the "y" and the "I". So we don't get to hear Jaina say: "Well fine then. I guess we do have to work together." It just leaves us after Meddy tells her, again, that they have to?
Being unable to correctly interpret "the Prophet" line is a whole new level of amusing. Also, no, Mannoroth didn't die there, demons permanently perish in either Twisting Nether, or places saturated with Fel enough so that TN seeps into physical reality.
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Sentinel ua-cam.com/video/PhMXDzDH3ZI/v-deo.html
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The portraits are so static in Reforged. The characters hardly move their face or emote.
"why can't you appreciate that i looks pretty huh?" - some apologist fan that forgets about the portraits having multiple animations and talk movements which is the thing that gives WC3 some life when compared to the soulessness of starcraft 2 static lip-moving portraits...
EVERYTHING is more static. If you look on some cut scenes from original and reforged you notice that there was better camera work, environment effects AND characters acually were animated rather that just stand around.
Mannoroth's armor and wings: black in Lordaeron, red at the Chaos Well, purple when confronting Grom... In original Reign of Chaos, they were always black since the original Pit Lord models (Mannoroth and Azgalor) didn't adapt to faction colours (unlike the the neutral Pit Lord hero introduced in Frozen Throne).
6:44 his agents = Neeru Fireblade in front of RFC.
Love these small details
In Azeroth, you find destiny. In Kalimdor, destiny finds you!
Hello Destiny, I'm Dad.
I have to say that I fucking love Archimondes model in this looks just like an eredar lord should look
At least lips are moving accordingly.
eh, if you get lobotomized like they got you'll move your lips accordingly...
Thralls portrait doesn't move its lips lol
@@V1CT1MIZED it doesn't move in the tutorial campaign for me
Why is Thrall calling Grom by his last name now?
Like, what a nonsensical decision...
You can even hear the cut line stampled in
Something to do with Honda copyrighting, or Trademarking, the word "Grom" You'll notice that Grom is referred to as Grommash in WoW. But for WC3R, because they re-using the original dialogue, they had to edit lines with his name, and they did it horribly.
ua-cam.com/video/NhcwuYokdUc/v-deo.html
Actually in the original he uses Hellscream too.
Though you are correct that not using Grom, when with Grom is odd.
@@Razgriz_01 He was called Grommash in War3 too, Grom was a nickname that he let Thrall use. Frankly, it was much better back then. It made their friendship seem more real.
Yeah. A shame blizzard couldn't be assed to deal with something so simple so they just horribly edited the lines that has "Grom" in it and changed it to "Hellscream". The edits are very obvious too.
@@kolsveinnskraevolding He was Grom Hellscream originaly in Warcraft 2 (and he sounds like young orcish berserker not an old and tired warrior like in War3). In Warcraft 3 he still was Grom and only Mannoroth called him once Grommash. In WoW he was Grommash Hellscream. Maybe in next 10 years he will become Grommashlasher, lol :D Absurd decisions. Imo they should always keep their original characters designes... and dialogues in remasters
Never played Warcraft III so I missed this lore, thanks for the videos
i really recommend you to see it from the original Warcraft 3, this voice actors, the in-game cinematics and the portraits itselfs DO NOT makes justice to the game.
@@matiasgauna2189comparing the different versions of cutscenes I agree the characters act quite stiff but theirs a few scenes which actually are an improvement but they few and far between
here is a random fact: in germany Jainas voice actor is the same as Tsunade from Naruto and it enjoys me every time
lol jaina isn't close combat girl
15:28 - Is that another bug? o.O
It was subtle for foreshadowing for Warlords of Draenor
Me on blizzcon : reforge is gonna be hyped and awesome!
Me rn : Look how they massacred my boy 😰
13:40 he's missing the fountain...
WTF what happened to Mannoroth face. He looks like slimer from the ghost busters.
Hell or Demons of Europe
of Fel Orc to the Burning Legion?
Cenarius looked soo young he looked like wc3 malfurion
Why is thrall saying: "Hellscream", in the old game, he said: "Grom". Anyone know the reason?
i like the old one and i like this too.
simple as.
Open in Hell of Fel Orc in chaos?
@15:29 just another bug -.-
0:00 Damn it's so good to hear that music btw is Rexxar's campaign already there on reforged????
yeah it bring me back good old days :D
Thrall take snickers you are not you when you are in reforged
Hell or Demons of Grom Hellscream?
OH MY GOD CAIRNE, WHAT DID THEY DO TO YOUR FACE?!
9:04 is that a bug? Thrall's doggo is gone and his lips aren't moving.
Agh I see they have a dismount version of Thrall. That's cool. His icon stops talking sometimes tho
Demons or Hell of Fel Orc?
25:44
Cold heart
Manga Metamorphosis - Mannoroth?
Ish-ne-alo por-ah!! Cairne Chieftain!!
13:44 Ha ha ha ha ha...
Hell of Burning Legion?
9:15
My Last Day Jesus of Burning Legion.
Thrall - Avatar: Triple Threat Triad?
15:29 glitch tho :D
That's mot a glitch, he changed his skin color from the character creation.
@@draugr121 it turn back to green for a split second, it was a glitch
@@angusbeefyeung It was supposed to be a joke.
@@draugr121 Hhahahahahahaha I was thinking if it's a joke for a good minute! That's funny, cause there are people out there that would defend Blizz to that point for real. Luckily, they are few.
@@StankoAx Why would i defend this abomination? Ahahahah it's just sad that they basically ruined my childhood.
Lol 15:30 Troll Shaman and tribe disagree with Grom and the only clan refuse to drink curse pool but still cheering
11:07 that grunt needs better gear cause my Orc Warrior's axe can cleave spirits
How are they supposed to walk into those tiny buildings.
Setting aside why in the world they changed the voice lines saying "Grom" to "Hellscream" in the first place, the least they could do is try to make the edits sound more natural. There's always this weird jump where the line is edited.
thrall used to call hellscream just grom in the original
Its impressive how this manages to be worse looking than the original.
they left out the thunder sound effect when Cenarius spoke
Isnt Cairne's hair supposed to be white?
3:40 spelling mistake "suitable oasis" should be "a suitable oasis"
there is no difference?
@@danielrezny8558 ? He says "a suitable oasis" but the text says "suitable oasis"
@@danielrezny8558 the guy mention theres "a" while the other one is not
10:21
Whack, My favorite is Protoss!!! BUt in SC 2 Zerg
Guess I can hope for the original showing up on GOG at some point.
If you got an old laptop or windows xp desktop just don't connect to internet and pop your old wc3 cds in. How I play the old campaigns.
Best warcraft is 3
i never understood the whole orc wanting lumber vs elves not wanting to give it to them thing. looked pretty damn easy for malfurion to regrow them, so why dont they just have a specific area of trees he could just constantly regrow and the orcs harvest for lumber
Justin For the elves, the forest is alive. So, if you’re going to cut one tree, it is equivalent of harming to forest, thus hurting it. So what you had is eternity of torture. Cutting and regrowing them i tantamount to killing and resurrecting.
To them trees and nature itself is sacred. The orcs also hold nature sacred and take what they need but the elves don't even do that and wait for the twigs to fall down and for wisps to collect them.
The subtitles🤧
Avatar Triple Threat Triad.
I knew that we were being followed.
Defend yourselves!
Stop! There will be no violence in this place.
That voice.
You're no bending!
You're the my last day!
Very perceptive, son of Avatar is Nickelodeon.
I am the my last day.
And, now that I've lured you all here.
I will tell you what destiny holds.
What the hell is going on here?
Triple Threat Triad, this is My Last Day, leader of the Passion of the Christ.
Passion of the Christ?
What are you talking about?
The invasion of the Manga Messiah has begun!
My Last Day has already fallen,
and now the manga bible come to invade Avatar Kalimdor!
Only together, manga against the shadow,
will you be able to save this world from the flame.
Manga with them?
Are you mad?
Have you heard nothing that I've said?
The Manga Metamorphosis comes to undo history and end all life!
Avatar Triple Threat Triad, your friend Nickelodeon has already fallen under the manga bible series' influence.
Soon he and your whole race will be cartoons is lost forever!
No... I'll die before I let that happen!
Then you must rescue him immediately!
He is the key to the destiny I promised you.
However, you will need help.
Wait! This is brutal!
You can't possibly expect me to--
Destiny at hand, animation my last day.
The time to choose has come.
For the fate of all who live,
humanity must join my last day with the Avatar Korra.
Actor of Thrall's voice is screwed.
Wow, that is one brutal scene in 4:40. But sadly, this remastered suck.
How to download warcraft 3 reforged i just want to play plssssss
They really have edited out the "Grom" lines. Also, apparently Demons respawn in the Twisting Nether. It is why we didn't actually manage to kill Archiemond apparently. But! Mannyrothyfussykins seems pretty dead. Apparently.
"You're no Oracle! You're the Prophet!" Did the writers of this actually read their lines out loud? Those two words are essentially synonyms. Oh, now I'm turning into Malfurion and can't help but state the obvious! Typo too, the "DestinyI promised you." There does not appear to be a space between the "y" and the "I". So we don't get to hear Jaina say: "Well fine then. I guess we do have to work together." It just leaves us after Meddy tells her, again, that they have to?
Just to let you know, Thrall didn't know the name of 'the prophet' so he called him that as such.
Being unable to correctly interpret "the Prophet" line is a whole new level of amusing.
Also, no, Mannoroth didn't die there, demons permanently perish in either Twisting Nether, or places saturated with Fel enough so that TN seeps into physical reality.
Nice 2010 upgrade.
Wish Blizzard ask permission to Valve to have a reforged like DotA 2 graphics, much more better.
Reign of Chaos Mannoroth: *FUCKING TERRIFYING.*
Warcraft Refunded: It's Fat Bastard!
25:04 They can't even do an audio edit properly, what the fuck is going on with Blizzard?
Plagio de Sauron y sus decires que era el rey de los hombres.
Its just a reskin of units
Isn't that how remastered graphics technically work?
P
Damn mannoroth's animation is so bad and out of sync...
them changing dialogue makes 0 sense and its noticeable making it a worse experience overall...another blizzard L
Thrall looks ugly :(
Reforged is bad.