Totally agree with you, Danielle. Keep going with whatever you are doing, and you will get there. Those boots and shoes looked amazing and so comfy. ❤xx
Calorie counting messed with my relationship with food, knowing i could eat a big bar of chocolate, have a takeout, any sort of rubbish as long as i was in Calories and weighing nearly everything was hard work..All diets have good or bad points..It what one works for you
Totally agree with you. I go to sw group but all that clapping does my head in. I've started to just weighing and leaving . It just doesn't give me any motivation and find that certain members seem to take over about that their plans for the week are leaving no time for the quieter ones. Good luck with your journey Danielle hope you find what works for you. Xx
Totally agree with you. SW is great as far as eating healthier goes, but portion control can go out the window! CC is great as it is more about portion control, but not focused so much on healthy food. Combine the 2 for the best of both worlds👍 ❤
I used to be a slimming world member but couldn’t ever lose them I started calorie counting and am so far 6st 5lbs down, still a way to go but I prefer this path ❤ new subscriber 🎉
I have been a target SW member for many years. Started on the red and green days! I have been to several groups and some consultants are definitely better than others. Our current consultant is brilliant and ALWAYS underlines the portion ratio on the plate. If you stick with it I would advise you to speak out when you hear something you don’t agree with. That’s the point of image therapy. It’s a group participation thing, not a lecture.
You are totally correct about some consultants but I do it On line .but I do nutracheck along side it so I know that I am not going over my daily calories.but I like slimming world and will continue with my own journey. You speak a lot of sense .😂❤
I used to do SW which is how I started subscribing to your channel when Harper was around 8 weeks old, but I was struggling up and down the same 5lbs for well over a year. I didn’t think I wanted to calorie count as all that weighing seemed to be such a faff compared with the little weighing needed for SW. Well, fast-forward to today and I’m now on day 106 of calorie counting alone, weighing tracking every single thing I eat!! 🎉 Yes, it takes longer to dish up my meals, but I basically put my bowl or plate on the scales and just weigh as I dish up. I use Nutracheck app which also tells me what a portion size is, so I scan the barcode first and put on my plate only what that portion is. I have a guide of 1500 cals a day, but sometimes I eat more and sometimes less, which evens out to my average of 1500 cals over the week/month, and I ensure I eat 3 healthy meals a day so I don’t eat just 1500 cals of junk food haha. I also watch my protein and fibre intake, but I don’t really worry about the other macros. I have now lost 1 stone 12lbs in 15 weeks! Whilst I love the freedom of less weighing on SW, I prefer the freedom of eating “normal” food, especially when going out for lunch or dinner with my husband and 2 daughters, and it does seem to be more successful for me this way. I’m learning so much about where I was going wrong (and trust me, I was 100% on plan 99% of the time, so not including special occasions) so I think it was about eating too many low fat foods and not really understanding the impact of extra “free” carbs on my body. I’m not dissing SW, I loved the plan and it introduced me to some lovely healthy meal ideas, it just seems my body didn’t agree haha. So basically my tips for you are: follow the SW plan if you wish but track only calories with it for now, keep your eye on protein (70-100g) and fibre (15-30g) but don’t stress too much, and yes keep up your water intake too obviously, but don’t worry at all about tracking other macros just yet as that can be a step too far in the beginning, just keep that idea as something in the bag for later IF you need it. Px
This is great advice and I feel like I am at that point now. I’ve been tracking calories and macros the last few days and just feel so much freedom but yet in control. I like the fact sw encourage eating more healthier foods. But I believe for long term weight loss you need to understand more about food than just calling it ‘free’. Ps. Well done on your brilliant weight loss 🥰
Hi Daniel, As a target member of S/ W I can only say my experience has been brilliant, my consultant encourages and motivates never nothing negative, she has said and advised many members who are struggling to eat more speed food ,, and limited things like the pasta and potatoes not cut them out but limit, she has said on many occasions that everyone is different, and people do speak up in group if they don't agree and says what works better for them,, which can be helpful, Personally I would say stick with it, ,, but you do what's best for you,, I know from the past videos you have said calorie counting you tend to spend your calories on the wrong things ,, I don't always comment, but always watch, I hope you find what works for you best,, and as I said , you do what's best for you xx
Slimming world was not good for my relationship with food. My consultant went mad if anyone went over 5 syns a day. She had no answers when people had questions just to "trust the plan" and the whole environment was so toxic with members stripping off to get weighed, not eating all day before a weigh in and even discussing taking laxatives to lose more weight. The consultant made members miss birthday dinners, take a packed lunch to a family gathering and (in my case) made me cry because I had a scone from a bakery. I was only there a month and although I lost half a stone, I was always starving and thoroughly miserable. When I decided (in a meeting) that I wasn't going to go back I went straight to Gregg's and got a hot chocolate in attempt to break the bad cycle. I was hounded by the consultant for 2 months and then I blocked her.
Glad it's not just me!!! It really winds me up. They are qualified to tell you about sw but they are not qualified to give nutritional advice! They are bot educated in nutrition 😮
I agree with you Danielle iam still going to slimming world i am going to give it a norther tew weeks because i am finding really difficult to lose the weight this time i just love watching you for all your inspirational and brilliant support sending you all my love and hugs Marie ❤❤
Hi Danielle I rejoined SW group couple weeks ago, previously online member, I've lost 6.5 lbs over 2 weeks which I'm really happy about. My consultant messages me regularly which is sometimes annoying 😂. Her last message was telling me to look at my book more to help get better losses. To me that's her saying she's expecting more from me but I'm not a fast loser, and to be honest I'm happy with my results so far. It's made me wonder if to go back to group or try online only again. I just hate all the pressure of trying to please but surely if I'm happy that's what matters xx
Hi Danielle, i understand what you mean about group. I've been to many sw groups over the years and the consultants have always been overweight themselves and heavier than me so I've always struggled to take their advice. I've tried many times to find photos or information about them before i joined the group but could never find stuff online. So you don't know until you're there signing up that you're going to be told how to lose weight from someone that's clearly overweight. I know that sounds harsh but you wouldn't go to uni to learn from someone that doesn't have a degree themselves!!
Never thought of it like that! There are a lot of people in my group who use it as a social thing - which is nice for them. But for weight loss I’m not so sure xx
Hey Danielle I have gone back to ww where I lost all my weight , the new plan and app has macros now and I like you have to weight pasta and rice , but have oats and potatoes and fruits and veg plus lean meats etc as 0 point options , best of both worlds 😊
I have a real love hate relationship with SW. I’m a member and love aspects of it but some of the nonsense they say winds me up. I’m at my most successful when I follow SW but am mindful of calories. Your consultant doesn’t sound great, real shame. Some days if there’s something I fancy, like bread and butter I just calorie count. My head is a chaotic adhd mess at the moment and your videos are helping me to get back in the right frame of mind for group tomorrow so thank you for that x❤
Gaing in weight could be water retention or hormones, which my consultant would say if someone has been 100 percent on plan, and maybe suggest a food diary or something I personally would try another group as I have been to a few groups but all consultants have been fab xxx you just have to find your group xxx
I always found it crazy when I wanted something low in calories and it was super high in syns! I000% prefer calorie counting, pain in the bum it is counting everyday but it allows me the flexibility when out with the family eating, sw used to make me feel incredibly guilty and actually gave me a back outlook on food. I use sw in terms of opting for fruit and veg and protein first but don’t feel like ending it all if I eat something off plan (even within calories) xx
I am really enjoying trying calorie counting. Like you said it can be a bit annoying weighing everything but makes it so much easier to stop on plan ❤️
I maybe just lucky but all the consultants I've had over the last 6/7 yrs have been very supportive. I was at target for nearly 5yrs, then I had an accident and wasn't able to move around put half a stone. But credit where its due, my consultant was so supportive, kept me focused and motivated. It’s nerve wracking waiting till its your turn to either look happy if you've lost weight or if you've gained, upset, baffled, unsure of why you've not lost weight, and we'll we all know how that feels. I think the reason why it's part of the group session, and this is just my opinion, it's to face the issues full on, not hiding the weight gain, so other members and the consultant can help, and give encouragement to not give in. But I have to agree, it is one of the things about staying in group, I don't like 😮
Consultants act like they’re nutritionist when they actually know nothing. Yep your 1k calorie bowl of pasta made no difference but that extra 20 calorie syn is what done you looool 😂
I have done calorie counting for years, due to my SW groups lack of support. I would say to my leader, why is it not working for me when I was following the plan 100% I had four stone to lose. I had to do sas logs and be fat shamed 😢 so no not for me. I started calorie counting and that was when I realised why it wasn’t working, you simply cannot fill ya boots with pasta, rice and so on. The positives of SW is the health benefits i.e loads of fruit and veg, but to save all your syns for a chocolate feast is crazy to me but each to their own. But everyone is different. I kept all the weight off for 8 years then I hit perimenopause and bam still doing the same because I eat healthy I simply struggle to lose weight, I walk 25K a day without fail and yet I don’t lose weight but I don’t gain either 😂 I think we need to ease up on pressure I totally get it, everyone wanting to be thin or taking the jabs, sorry but that’s the easy way out. Weight loss is bloody hard work and it’s all anyone will think about. So that’s why calorie counting works it’s because you don’t have to cut anything out and be miserable as long as you put the effort in long term it will work because it did for me, it’s just now I struggle and that’s hormones and nothing else, so it can be out of our control our bodies are all different, so never anyone compare. I’d love to be a slimming world consultant 😂 I’d probably get banned or open peoples eyes up instead of making some feel like a failure 😞 because everyone deserves to be built up at that vulnerable time, because once you realise you and you alone are doing this then who needs SW anyway 😘
They’re full of either protein or fibre so they fill you up quickly for less calories. Of course you can pig-out on them but SW makes it clear that you eat until you are comfortably full. A lot of people ignore this aspect of the plan.
I'm doing the exact same as you. Calorie counting is taking over tracking on the slimming world app but I'm using the principle of slimming. I bought some bread that was a healthy extra b on slimming world but more calories than other bread in the house. Things like that irritate me so much, that I just think sod the syns idea. It's annoying. I don't think I want to go anymore but I need the accountability of weighing myself there to keep me going. Saying that, I've massively over eaten this week and I don't care 😂
I used to be a size 7 then after I had Isabelle I couldn’t fit into a 7 so now I’m a size 8 lol 😂. I love the leopard print boots. I have a pair. They’re so comfy. The beige ones are lovely 🥰. The only way to lose weight is to be in a calorie deficit. The scales aren’t a true reflection of your progress. They vary so much. There’s a difference between weight loss and fat loss. Yes, your consultant doesn’t sound good to be honest. Our group is good but like you I don’t agree with a lot of SW rules like avocados being syns etc. Also I think it’s not always great for your mental health with the focus on the scales. You have a lot of knowledge around food. You know exactly what you are doing. I like the fact you don’t have to weigh everything. Thanks for sharing as always. ❤xxxxxx
If someone knows good nutrition they can be successful on any “diet” but most people aren’t knowledgeable so I get why consultants just push their particular plan. I’ve seen videos of people showing their half plate of salad for speed plus a free food casserole for example, but then they heap on extra rice or pasta so the plate is now twice the size and the speed element is effectively now only 20% rather than 50%, that’s why it’s not working.
Yes, that is so true, and probably closer to what I was doing on SW, or some people put it “on the side” in a separate bowl which also changes the ratios x
Totally agree with you, Danielle. Keep going with whatever you are doing, and you will get there. Those boots and shoes looked amazing and so comfy. ❤xx
Calorie counting messed with my relationship with food, knowing i could eat a big bar of chocolate, have a takeout, any sort of rubbish as long as i was in Calories and weighing nearly everything was hard work..All diets have good or bad points..It what one works for you
Totally agree with you. I go to sw group but all that clapping does my head in. I've started to just weighing and leaving . It just doesn't give me any motivation and find that certain members seem to take over about that their plans for the week are leaving no time for the quieter ones. Good luck with your journey Danielle hope you find what works for you. Xx
That’s why I’ve stopped going ! Exactly what you’ve said .
I found exactly the same thing. Someone took 15 minutes to answer one question so left no time for anyone else xx
Same at my group. I find it rude and annoying!
I found that to if you’re not part of the crowd then forget it. Just remember you are doing fantastic Good luck ❤
Totally agree with you. SW is great as far as eating healthier goes, but portion control can go out the window! CC is great as it is more about portion control, but not focused so much on healthy food. Combine the 2 for the best of both worlds👍 ❤
I used to be a slimming world member but couldn’t ever lose them I started calorie counting and am so far 6st 5lbs down, still a way to go but I prefer this path ❤ new subscriber 🎉
I have been a target SW member for many years. Started on the red and green days! I have been to several groups and some consultants are definitely better than others. Our current consultant is brilliant and ALWAYS underlines the portion ratio on the plate. If you stick with it I would advise you to speak out when you hear something you don’t agree with. That’s the point of image therapy. It’s a group participation thing, not a lecture.
That’s what I believe it should be like. Spend more time talking about recipes and difficulties not just about people’s weight xxx
You are totally correct about some consultants but I do it On line .but I do nutracheck along side it so I know that I am not going over my daily calories.but I like slimming world and will continue with my own journey. You speak a lot of sense .😂❤
I used to do SW which is how I started subscribing to your channel when Harper was around 8 weeks old, but I was struggling up and down the same 5lbs for well over a year. I didn’t think I wanted to calorie count as all that weighing seemed to be such a faff compared with the little weighing needed for SW. Well, fast-forward to today and I’m now on day 106 of calorie counting alone, weighing tracking every single thing I eat!! 🎉 Yes, it takes longer to dish up my meals, but I basically put my bowl or plate on the scales and just weigh as I dish up. I use Nutracheck app which also tells me what a portion size is, so I scan the barcode first and put on my plate only what that portion is. I have a guide of 1500 cals a day, but sometimes I eat more and sometimes less, which evens out to my average of 1500 cals over the week/month, and I ensure I eat 3 healthy meals a day so I don’t eat just 1500 cals of junk food haha. I also watch my protein and fibre intake, but I don’t really worry about the other macros. I have now lost 1 stone 12lbs in 15 weeks! Whilst I love the freedom of less weighing on SW, I prefer the freedom of eating “normal” food, especially when going out for lunch or dinner with my husband and 2 daughters, and it does seem to be more successful for me this way. I’m learning so much about where I was going wrong (and trust me, I was 100% on plan 99% of the time, so not including special occasions) so I think it was about eating too many low fat foods and not really understanding the impact of extra “free” carbs on my body. I’m not dissing SW, I loved the plan and it introduced me to some lovely healthy meal ideas, it just seems my body didn’t agree haha. So basically my tips for you are: follow the SW plan if you wish but track only calories with it for now, keep your eye on protein (70-100g) and fibre (15-30g) but don’t stress too much, and yes keep up your water intake too obviously, but don’t worry at all about tracking other macros just yet as that can be a step too far in the beginning, just keep that idea as something in the bag for later IF you need it. Px
Fantastic post!!! X
This is great advice and I feel like I am at that point now. I’ve been tracking calories and macros the last few days and just feel so much freedom but yet in control. I like the fact sw encourage eating more healthier foods. But I believe for long term weight loss you need to understand more about food than just calling it ‘free’.
Ps. Well done on your brilliant weight loss 🥰
This post of yours makes so much sense. Thanks for taking the time to 'write' it all out ❤
@@janinewalker9816 Thank you. Px
@@daniellecindy I hope tracking helps you in the same way it has me. We can be in this together 💪🏻 Px
Hi Daniel,
As a target member of S/ W I can only say my experience has been brilliant, my consultant encourages and motivates never nothing negative, she has said and advised many members who are struggling to eat more speed food ,, and limited things like the pasta and potatoes not cut them out but limit, she has said on many occasions that everyone is different, and people do speak up in group if they don't agree and says what works better for them,, which can be helpful,
Personally I would say stick with it, ,, but you do what's best for you,, I know from the past videos you have said calorie counting you tend to spend your calories on the wrong things ,,
I don't always comment, but always watch, I hope you find what works for you best,, and as I said , you do what's best for you xx
Thank you so much for your support carol. I’m definitely sure there is some good consultants on there xx
Slimming world was not good for my relationship with food. My consultant went mad if anyone went over 5 syns a day.
She had no answers when people had questions just to "trust the plan" and the whole environment was so toxic with members stripping off to get weighed, not eating all day before a weigh in and even discussing taking laxatives to lose more weight. The consultant made members miss birthday dinners, take a packed lunch to a family gathering and (in my case) made me cry because I had a scone from a bakery. I was only there a month and although I lost half a stone, I was always starving and thoroughly miserable. When I decided (in a meeting) that I wasn't going to go back I went straight to Gregg's and got a hot chocolate in attempt to break the bad cycle. I was hounded by the consultant for 2 months and then I blocked her.
I love this video hun. Well said. ❤
Thank you so much lovely ❤️
@@daniellecindy You're so welcome hun. X
Glad it's not just me!!! It really winds me up. They are qualified to tell you about sw but they are not qualified to give nutritional advice! They are bot educated in nutrition 😮
I know, I get really frustrated. I feel like it’s just setting people up for failure by giving wrong advice xx
My group is brilliant and she is so supportive of all of us x
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I agree with you Danielle iam still going to slimming world i am going to give it a norther tew weeks because i am finding really difficult to lose the weight this time i just love watching you for all your inspirational and brilliant support sending you all my love and hugs Marie ❤❤
Thank you so much Marie. Thank you for your support lovely 🥰
Hi Danielle I rejoined SW group couple weeks ago, previously online member, I've lost 6.5 lbs over 2 weeks which I'm really happy about. My consultant messages me regularly which is sometimes annoying 😂. Her last message was telling me to look at my book more to help get better losses. To me that's her saying she's expecting more from me but I'm not a fast loser, and to be honest I'm happy with my results so far. It's made me wonder if to go back to group or try online only again. I just hate all the pressure of trying to please but surely if I'm happy that's what matters xx
Don't listen to your consultant!! You're doing brilliantly. They just focus on the numbers on the scales!!! There's much more to it than that! Xx
I agree, losing 6.5lb over two weeks is brilliant! Well done.🎉
You are doing fantastic. That extra pressure sometimes can cause unhealthy habits. Do what makes you feel happy. ❤️
Hi Danielle, i understand what you mean about group. I've been to many sw groups over the years and the consultants have always been overweight themselves and heavier than me so I've always struggled to take their advice. I've tried many times to find photos or information about them before i joined the group but could never find stuff online. So you don't know until you're there signing up that you're going to be told how to lose weight from someone that's clearly overweight. I know that sounds harsh but you wouldn't go to uni to learn from someone that doesn't have a degree themselves!!
Very true. Xx
Never thought of it like that! There are a lot of people in my group who use it as a social thing - which is nice for them. But for weight loss I’m not so sure xx
So true! My consultant is literally twice my size and waddles. She’s absolutely lovely but is a very poor advertisement for SW!
@@ladymeringue9870 that made me laugh 😂 xx
Hey Danielle I have gone back to ww where I lost all my weight , the new plan and app has macros now and I like you have to weight pasta and rice , but have oats and potatoes and fruits and veg plus lean meats etc as 0 point options , best of both worlds 😊
Different advantages and disadvantages but it looks like a good plan.
I have a real love hate relationship with SW. I’m a member and love aspects of it but some of the nonsense they say winds me up. I’m at my most successful when I follow SW but am mindful of calories. Your consultant doesn’t sound great, real shame. Some days if there’s something I fancy, like bread and butter I just calorie count. My head is a chaotic adhd mess at the moment and your videos are helping me to get back in the right frame of mind for group tomorrow so thank you for that x❤
Gaing in weight could be water retention or hormones, which my consultant would say if someone has been 100 percent on plan, and maybe suggest a food diary or something I personally would try another group as I have been to a few groups but all consultants have been fab xxx you just have to find your group xxx
I’m so glad that your consultant is giving you great advice. A lot more need to be like that xxx
I always found it crazy when I wanted something low in calories and it was super high in syns! I000% prefer calorie counting, pain in the bum it is counting everyday but it allows me the flexibility when out with the family eating, sw used to make me feel incredibly guilty and actually gave me a back outlook on food. I use sw in terms of opting for fruit and veg and protein first but don’t feel like ending it all if I eat something off plan (even within calories) xx
I am really enjoying trying calorie counting. Like you said it can be a bit annoying weighing everything but makes it so much easier to stop on plan ❤️
I maybe just lucky but all the consultants I've had over the last 6/7 yrs have been very supportive. I was at target for nearly 5yrs, then I had an accident and wasn't able to move around put half a stone. But credit where its due, my consultant was so supportive, kept me focused and motivated. It’s nerve wracking waiting till its your turn to either look happy if you've lost weight or if you've gained, upset, baffled, unsure of why you've not lost weight, and we'll we all know how that feels. I think the reason why it's part of the group session, and this is just my opinion, it's to face the issues full on, not hiding the weight gain, so other members and the consultant can help, and give encouragement to not give in. But I have to agree, it is one of the things about staying in group, I don't like 😮
Unfortunately I haven’t had great experience and the next one closest I the same lady 😂 xx
Consultants act like they’re nutritionist when they actually know nothing. Yep your 1k calorie bowl of pasta made no difference but that extra 20 calorie syn is what done you looool 😂
I know it’s crazy. I wonder whether they just want people to fail so they keep coming back 👀
I have done calorie counting for years, due to my SW groups lack of support. I would say to my leader, why is it not working for me when I was following the plan 100% I had four stone to lose. I had to do sas logs and be fat shamed 😢 so no not for me. I started calorie counting and that was when I realised why it wasn’t working, you simply cannot fill ya boots with pasta, rice and so on. The positives of SW is the health benefits i.e loads of fruit and veg, but to save all your syns for a chocolate feast is crazy to me but each to their own. But everyone is different. I kept all the weight off for 8 years then I hit perimenopause and bam still doing the same because I eat healthy I simply struggle to lose weight, I walk 25K a day without fail and yet I don’t lose weight but I don’t gain either 😂 I think we need to ease up on pressure I totally get it, everyone wanting to be thin or taking the jabs, sorry but that’s the easy way out. Weight loss is bloody hard work and it’s all anyone will think about. So that’s why calorie counting works it’s because you don’t have to cut anything out and be miserable as long as you put the effort in long term it will work because it did for me, it’s just now I struggle and that’s hormones and nothing else, so it can be out of our control our bodies are all different, so never anyone compare. I’d love to be a slimming world consultant 😂 I’d probably get banned or open peoples eyes up instead of making some feel like a failure 😞 because everyone deserves to be built up at that vulnerable time, because once you realise you and you alone are doing this then who needs SW anyway 😘
I totally agree with you I can't understand how free foods are free even though they contain calories x
They’re full of either protein or fibre so they fill you up quickly for less calories. Of course you can pig-out on them but SW makes it clear that you eat until you are comfortably full. A lot of people ignore this aspect of the plan.
I'm doing the exact same as you. Calorie counting is taking over tracking on the slimming world app but I'm using the principle of slimming. I bought some bread that was a healthy extra b on slimming world but more calories than other bread in the house. Things like that irritate me so much, that I just think sod the syns idea. It's annoying.
I don't think I want to go anymore but I need the accountability of weighing myself there to keep me going. Saying that, I've massively over eaten this week and I don't care 😂
You know my views after our chat dan 😂😂❤🎉 loves you x
Love our chats gurl ❤️❤️❤️
I used to be a size 7 then after I had Isabelle I couldn’t fit into a 7 so now I’m a size 8 lol 😂.
I love the leopard print boots. I have a pair. They’re so comfy. The beige ones are lovely 🥰.
The only way to lose weight is to be in a calorie deficit. The scales aren’t a true reflection of your progress. They vary so much. There’s a difference between weight loss and fat loss. Yes, your consultant doesn’t sound good to be honest. Our group is good but like you I don’t agree with a lot of SW rules like avocados being syns etc. Also I think it’s not always great for your mental health with the focus on the scales. You have a lot of knowledge around food. You know exactly what you are doing. I like the fact you don’t have to weigh everything. Thanks for sharing as always. ❤xxxxxx
I’m the same. Since having kids my feet have grown as well as my belly 😂😂. Thank you for watching my lovely ❤️❤️
If someone knows good nutrition they can be successful on any “diet” but most people aren’t knowledgeable so I get why consultants just push their particular plan. I’ve seen videos of people showing their half plate of salad for speed plus a free food casserole for example, but then they heap on extra rice or pasta so the plate is now twice the size and the speed element is effectively now only 20% rather than 50%, that’s why it’s not working.
Yes, that is so true, and probably closer to what I was doing on SW, or some people put it “on the side” in a separate bowl which also changes the ratios x
I think this maybe why they don’t talk about nutrition and use their phrases instead so people need to keep coming back xxx
My lady's brilliant she so good .the last ladies I went to was like lady you said about.x
I think the consultant makes all the difference xx
I have been to two groups and been ignored at both, not for me !!!
This is awful. They aren’t as supportive as they were years ago x
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I hate it and have tried a couple I'm on line now xx