THIS is completely OVERPOWERED in DMZ..
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- 6 man teams in DMZ is completely overpowered. You can never finish the team off as there is always someone up reviving downed players. I think 6 man teams should be banned in DMZ, what do you think? Leave a like if you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching!
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▶ THIS is completely OVERPOWERED in DMZ..
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Honestly, whenever I've been in large squads, we linked up for mutual protection. On multiple occasions 2 random groups of 3 friends teamed up and helped with each other's missions.
My experience the difference is age. I'm in my 40's and the guys I play with are older with kids playing in the evenings. It's the young punks who ruin people's games.
Same we are in our 40s with kids & sometimes they bring their kids in to play with us… long story short kids don’t care about missions & they shoot everything that moves. Even yelling at them stop shooting everything that isn’t a threat they just can’t help themselves little fn piss pots 😂
Same. Facts sir.
you are acting like linking up for "mutual protection" isnt an unfair advantage to 3 man teams. like what does that mean lmao. if a team runs up on you, are u gonna stop being a 6 man because thats not mUtUaL pRoTeCtioN? get real dude. PvP is in the game, dont make 6 mans an age thing. both age groups fight back. younger guys are better at the game usually, oh well! oldheads are better at other things. 6 mans should not be a thing in the game. mutual protection is the worst response ive heard yet
I mean if you have a full squad with the intention of protecting each other it’s fair game if the age is older or not. The skill level is the obv difference.
@@SalVitroNY why do you oldheads care about missions that give you no reward. youre acting like the game was made to do misions. its a sandbox. let kids play and shoot and PvP. yall are villifying all PvP its just pathetic and making urselves look like bigger men for doing missions that give you no good reward. are you really jumping in excitement over a double XP token
Not all 6 man teams are created equal. Like randoms who just met up in a lobby are not as effective as group of friends in a party chat who get in the same lobby together. And sometimes they get wiped too. I have been there 😂
same. It's still a small price to pay for it to be gone alltogether.
I been in many 6 man squads & ya been plenty of 3 man squads taking us down. I think 6 man squads players think or feel they’re invincible & play sloppy. Also yes 6 randoms not gonna accomplish as much as 3 friends.
But.....6 decent players all in a lobby will wipe that 2 or 3 man team about everytime.
I've been in quite a few 6 man's that the other 3 guys were complete dipshits. Teams get way too split, knocked down a few six mans by myself because they are all so distracted and sometimes don't even realize they're getting killed by operators.
As I always say “ DMZ givth and DMZ Taketh away”
Putting a substantial cooldown on receiving a team revive would alter the down-revive-down-revive gunfight meta without breaking the gameplay. I am not a huge fan of assimilation, especially since solos cannot plead once they have been thirsted, but I am okay with it - IF an assimilated team cannot pick up a Hunt Squad contract. I would also prevent the strategy of an assimilated person running away from the new team to rejoin his previous team. I think assimilations should be limited to once per person during a match. Don't plead or assimilate unless you are willing to finish the match with your new team.
all good points. Would add that being revived from full dead should only be allowed once per person.
This comment needs more votes. All good parameters that would still keep the game fun for large parties, but would also allow for a more enjoyable and balanced game experience for smaller groups
@@TheDonDCAC hell nah
Nah cause if you’re a 4 man and pick up my plea when I use it for the cam I’m going back to my team lol don’t be weird and then we won’t
@@sox9612 Didn't they change the Plead camera in Season 3? I saw a streamer Pleading and they are only seeing their own body instead of whole field like before and he even said he is not gonna plead because he is just gonna look at his character for many minutes
I absolutely died laughing on stream when Westie full sent that chopper into the Warzone billboard and screamed. Haha. I still really really need my “Westie vehicle fails” video. Please please!!!
As soon as you are a squad of more than 3, the Hunt Squad should disappear for that greater than 3 squad. Then at least if you are the victim of the Hunt, you'll have a chance. Otherwise get rid of it completely.
As a fan of 6 man squads this seems like a fair trade off. I don't join 6 teams to hunt other players
Heavy chopper fuel has been found to spawn at the docks in Sattiq, which is odd considering it isn’t one of the given spawn points. Makes you wonder how many more hidden spawns there are
It can spawn on the train also.
I've taken out 6 man squads as a solo and I've been in 6 man squads that have been taken out by three man groups.
It's an advantage but not that OP. A lot of 6 man squads aren't well tuned and end up dying one guy at a time.
In my experience, 6man squads always get shredded.
how is having anywhere from 2X-6X as many people on a squad anything but OP? Some 6 man teams are unorganized but the fact is it's easily exploited to make a pre-planned 6 man team that works together. It's a simple fix....assimilation is allowed up to 3 players....literally just changed a 6 to a 3 in the code and done. Would anyone complain?
@@TheDonDCACI honestly think they should make DMZ 4 man for Al Mazrah and 2 for Ashika
Barely, the past like 3 squads we picked up have gotten us killed lol
Just last night my buddy and I were just babbin' about doing missions and fell victim to a 6 man and a Discord coordinated 3 man team that were running hunt squad contracts. We downed 4, but found it too hard to overcome a 9V2... They were quick to brag about the 9 man squad over prox chat... they weren't young kids either. I reported them all and just can't explain how demoralizing it is to get rolled by such cheaters.
cap the team to just 3 is all i ask, like if you go solos you can recruit or team up with 2 other randos, if duos you can invite 1 people, but if you already at 3 in the party you shouldn't be able to invite anyone since it's literally unfair, i mean i don't mind if im getting hunted by other squads but make it 3v3 and level the playground but if its 4-6 its just bullshit
Just yesterday in Ashika I got killed right off from spawn; only one of my teammates remained alive a bit further away.
I inmediatly pleaded but the team that killed me was out for blood from the get go.
Lucky us: a third tram showed up literally seconds later, wiped the team that killed us and then accepted our plead and we formed a 6 man team
Absolute heroes.
I cannot get over how funny it is hearing Stodeh comment about it being a 100% totally European team. Had me laughing out loud for the entire video.
The are all European and men, from Europe lmao
Warzone has trios, quads, duo, solo. Dmz should also have these modes to level the playing field. Each branch you can't get more than the allotted player count.
I like it but would I be WZ2ish?
nah 6 man teams are fun. You can join easily, just use mic and say you are friendly. It works about a third of the time. And if it doesn't then either run away or fight.
As a 4 man we’ve killed 2/3 diff 6 man teams in my opinion skill and communication wins every time
4:09 You're the Euope-Ian team and they're the Euro-Peein' (themselves) team lol.
I hate running into these kinda teams. Me and my Oppos usually just displace and head for the nearest exfil. Get us outta the lobby before words are said in Game chat.
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12:14 Westie flying Overwatch for the Evac Chopper. Just needs a pair on AH-64D Longbow Apaches and they're set to make a run for the Border 😂
max team size should be 3, just like the max squad size you can queue up in
I think 4 that way solos can get on a team
So in case anyone hasn't already noticed, Heavy Chopper Fuel is almost (like honestly haven't not found it here but jic because experiences may vary) on the Cargo Train. Second or Third car.
It’s literally known by everyone
The heavy fuel has always been on the clockwise rotating train when I land it
Westie: "I think there's a Tyrannosaurus Rex in my back garden."
Stodeh: "Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get away & reset."
also if you join another group there should be a cool down on you joining again, that way you cant plead, join, then run back to your old team.
U can only plead once
@@Da_Khemist88 pleading is only after death, you can still request to join if you’re alive after being revived and pleading
“if only we had some soothing hand cream” 🤣 i know u we’re talking about the revive pistol but that came out so wrong at first. 😵 😂
4 man teams max and DMZ would be perfect
They should just make 2 DMZ modes. One with assimilation, one without. So if you want to go in as a 3 man and not worry about 6 man teams, choose the non assimilation mode. But, if you have 5 other friends you want to play with, so you have to go in as two 3man teams. You choose regular DMZ.
They need to add a pve and a pvp modes. Or some kind of faction one where all players choose one of the factions in game and they are automatically allies within the game.
Went in 4 times last night , died to 6 mans 3 times. They can take it out and make a solo que for singles. This is how people stop playing.
Most unfair thing is a solo get hit with a hunt contract and the hunters is a 6 man. Like WTF, totally unfair. I might as well just walk thru middle of sattiq caves with bare hands. I play solo and happens to me all the time
We had a game last night where about 8 full teams were all driving around in a truck 😆
Can you, Stod, Tomo, and maybe Jack or someone else do a plunder vid? I think that would be really entertaining
Your team mate was on point through out.
Deserves a definite mention
Just an fyi
A player that’s down Cant plea for help if the whole team is down that’s how you can tell if the team is wiped or not.
2 many of these discord teams working together. Been in lobbies with two 6 man teams with no red comms, all working together. Creating massive ambush pinch points at hafid and the airport primarily. And the quarry. Basically they just skirt the edges and destroy absolutely anyone around. No mission, no goal otherwise.
Lol you overlooked 4 Munition boxes when looting. I’m glad I’m not the only one that does that. Lol GG
Speaking from 3-man squad here and no offense but you know the risk of going 2-man. I mean you could do the same, try make them have mercy then join your squad and thats it. You can easily conquer the lobby after
I had it today a few times, premade teams Asian they all communicate with the text chat. Before game starts, you see them chatting and in game they gave locations of where they were.
Me and my random they spawned a Hafid near the boat.
1 team spawned next to is and the typed the location in chat and within a minute a full on aimbotting and wallhacking team of 6 wiped us.
We were spread out quite a bit, but they just run up and killed me, my mate was 100 meters further in a building second floor, they rushed straight to him and then straigth to the last teammate.
I just start to hate CoD so much right now, Ricochet is doing a damnn good job. In all modes WZ, DMZ and MP
I would like the option for 6 man groups still to exist. You should be able to use in game comms without the fear of others hearing it. When a squad uses radios it should show a simple proximity warning if another squad is close enough to observe the increases in radio broadcast. What I have a problem with is the hunt squad missions. Doesn't matter how well defended you are when you have a 100m circle placed over you and a squad comes after you. It all sounds like trade-offs. Fix one and break another. Maybe 6 man deals 50-75% damage...
I play solo in DMZ and solos get screwed. Solos can’t plead for help but players on teams can…that’s backwards. Additionally when a solo gets interrogated they are dead like in this video. I’ve been solo and ran into a 4 man team and told them I was a friendly solo after I was shot. They said I could join them but they interrogated me first like in this video and I just bled out and died. Solo players have a disadvantage and it should be the opposite.
Westie, keep up the good work. I'm really enjoying the videos at the moment and hope your having a good time in the US. There should be a max assimilation of 4 and trios can only assimilate with solos and solos can assimilate with up quads and make a 5 man but not the other way.
Edit: I also really enjoy watching Stod's POV live and then coming in for your beautifully edited videos.
❤
So true tho!
For the heavy chopper fuel in Hafid Port, I usually find it in the submarine warehouse. Found it twice in there after spawning in.
Assimilation should be limited to 4 players, 6 is ridiculous.
Yea six is kinda unfair..
@jack787 unfair? Literally, every player can participate in this mechanic.
They should make Assimilation up to 3 players total. So if you go in Solo you can squad up with a 2 man or 2 solo teams.
Westie: "OMG why was he just coming up here?" *kills*
Also Westlie: doesn't use mic
Seriously you can just let others know you are friendly. I have run into so many players, solos, duo, and even trios and let them know I don't want to fight. You'll be surprised how often others don't either and even want to team up.
I'm in 6 man teams about a third of the time because I would slowly pick up solos. People who complain about it are just Warzone sweats that cry about not being able to kill everyone.
I’ve also noticed it’s about 13% of players that are responsible for 52% or so of the violent attacks.
In order to limit the power of bigger teams, reviving team mates shouldn't be an option.
You can get revive kits which you can use on yourself or a teammate, but teams shouldn't get unlimited revives.
That way, once you down big teams and deplete their revives - they are beatable.
Once the fuel has been picked up for the first time from any of the locations in the round the rest will disappear
That song is my favorite. I feel like I can take on the whole map. 😂
What are your class setups for the Chimera & FJX?
FJX is most likely the one shot build, so longest barrel, bruen 90 suppressor, and explosive mags with other stuff for ADS (for me personally) he might have some recoil stuff. I recommend the victus instead w same attachments since FJX seems buggy, idk about the chimera
I’m not too sure but my guess for that Chimera build is 300. Hollow Point ammunition, Cronen Mini Pro scope, 45 rnd magazine, the longest barrel available for the gun (the 11” one?) and the Harbringer D20 suppressor.
@@sox9612 I appreciate it. Thank you!
@@secretidentity420 Thanks! I appreciate it.
Westin I’ve been watching your streams every morning for the last year now. I love seeing how far you’ve come. You legit make my mornings better
Last week with those tokens on the table its like BR
I'm usually solo in DMZ (with randoms) and most of them are only interested in "hunt the squad" missions..
I cant finish any of my missions..
And usually I end up alone cos all teammates were transferred to another team and then they all hunt me...
It feels unfair..
Really wish they would give solos a window to plead, even if it's not long, like 30 seconds or something
Love your videos westie. Quit warzone a few days ago but I still watch your videos. Keep it up!
dang dude you threw that first guy under the bus.
Loved how you tried to save him
Stodeh's commentary on their European heritage is gold
They should make it like Warzone, pick your game, solos, duos, quads but no squadding up
That 5 men party is not from Europe. Its from Asia...
As European I feel a bit insulted by mistaking ''my'' people as chinese guys.
Exactly. Another thing is when they make it sound like they weren't European themselves. I mean, years ago I worked in the UK and the way some people talked felt like their land was a different continent, not part of Europe. Which is incorrect anyway.
Whenever I’m running with a solid six man team I’m not hunting players. We get missions done and every man out alive!!!!
Good work trying to save the solo.
Freaking beast mode with that duo sniping on that train station team.
Ive been in a 6 man and sometimes we get wiped by a solo or duo or more, we just having fun, just a couple of guys playing not a profesional gamer so i hope they dont ban 6 man team, Devs should focus on anti cheat and hackers and game stability
Assimilation shouldn’t be a thing in the game. Squad hunt shouldnt exist. Players who have over 3 operator kills should be marked on the maps as big game with a marker over them.
The transport heli fuel at port is in the northern shed with the docked sub against the south wall
So im a solo player, and im fairly friendly, I don’t hunt unless I’m on a regain, however I get betrayed a lot, any advice on how I should handle these encounters with out being a toxic Douche ?
Use your mic and just keep trying. I join in with randoms, then anytime I encounter a player I offer them to join. You'll be surprised how often people are friendly.
@@Ducktor I do, I have prox on and tell a player when I see them I’m friendly, if I have to shot I do and I’ll let them get up and tell them I’m not here to hunt and let’s team but they usually just be dick bags and kill me
rule number one if you have ghost, near a water, and enemy is there, holds your trigger, stay in water, or move as far as you can, and wait for the enemy to go away
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Those damn Europe Ians 😂. Shame you didnt get the last finish, entertaining all the same!
It’s only overpowered if you’re not in a 6 man team so if you don’t have one go form one or stay as 3 and take out the 6 if you’re good tbh
Been saying this for a minute now. 6 man is broken. Needs to be removed completely, or limited to 4 players max.
Missing your morning streams Westie! Hope you're having a wonderful Vacation, but I can't wait for you to get back. Much love from me, and all the other Westicles. Safe travels.
Westie you guys snipping is like clock work 🙌🏻
6 man teams need to be a mode. Then it would even out. I always try to get a 6 man during playing. It is so much fun
It's easy mode. It's basically taking away all risk almost guaranteeing you can extract. There's no actual need for 6 people in dmz. The a.i. d9esnt require 6 people. The bosses don't. PVP doesn't. So why do we need 6 man squads a thing?
Let solos and duos assimilate. If you can handle al mazrah as a trip. Work on your tactics.
Not sure if it's the exact same squad, but I've come across that before, 6 guys with asia lettering names... Kinda lame to queue in two 3 man teams to join up together, but meh
save advanced uav for 6 man teams. 3v6 can be done. 2v6 is just lack of angles and hard to reposition
Shame you can’t sell equipment, like vests guns and mask n stuff. Maybe even have 2nd hand resale
I found a chopper fuel in a crate on the train with the weapons case.
Westie The Pro Bully Against Solos 😢😢😢
Chinese in EU server only 2 reasons: 1. to avoid cheater or 2. using cheat because can't compete with rage cheaters in Asia server.
I extracted without my (random) team on the heavy chopper and it took all my stuff. I think that breaks it, if you don't extract with your full team.
Missing your live streams westie.
That guy was 200 meters out near the water, comms vest doesnt reach that far. Comms vest range is 100 meters.
there just needs to be a balancing mechanic. for instance, friendly fire. Yeah, you can assimilate, but you can ALSO be betrayed. So 5-6 man teams get a voice com that says something like "this many operatives in a close area can be dangerous ghost team, check your friendly fire" when it's active. Also... larger groups moving together certainly seem like they'd be more noticeable on a UAV. Maybe the minimap periodically pings a halo around areas where 6 man squads are similar to the hunt squad contract?
This is what happens in my area all the time, the same 6 man pre-made "european" squads. Surprised none of them seem to be using cheats to be honest.
Westie, how do you like running the Chimera with this configuration? I'm trying to figure out what SMG is melting me with 3 plates.
I would rather have 4 man squads from the start and no ability to add randoms
They nned to adjust the game for duals but allow quads only on ashika
I’m so tired of people complaining about a casual mode having the ability to merge squads. Get over yourselves, it’s an absolutely amazing feature. I’ve been killed by maybe 2 six man squads my entire time playing. It’s not really that big of an issue if you aren’t just trying to kill as many players as possible and aren’t being tactful.
is there a specific game/map in call of duty where you can just concentrate on pvp and other games/maps where you can do just missions without pvp or is everything pvp? if its just pvp whats the point of missions? how do you offer an incentive to leisure players to want to come back?
For real. People act like WZ doesn't exist. If you want sweaty pvp go there.
Weird cause the solos I see try to fight us and I ask no response and they don’t respond to invites lol
Especially the pre planned ones…
Why did they make the Exfil Heli end faster once lifted off. Doesn't give enough time like used to have to revive a downed teammate from a final fight in the chopper!
Not a great change..
Doesn't give time to swap or check for gear either if you take a team out in the heli..
Devs need to rever that time after take off till your game ends back to how it was..
Westie once you interrogate you can’t invite into the squad, I’m not sure why but it cancels the ability
Because if you interrogate, you reveal their team and it’s obvious you’re out to kill them at that point
Is that chopper music from Battlefield Vietnam multiplayer? Omg choppers ruled the air in that game. Miss that game so fun!
I hope you're joking lmao
Cry of the Valkyries... Been wanting to put that music on my helicopter or the Magnum PI or airwolf music!!!!
A question, i have experienced disconnection issues to the lobby pretty often and loose all my stuff, my error code was DEV ERROR 11502 and i have no idea what it means.. do u guys have the same issue as well?
3 times I’ve found fuel and 3 times it was on board of the train. 3rd compartment from the back.
How stupid was that solo kill at the start lmao. Play everyday and had no mind to think the guy could die and not be revived 😂. F
Need to sort their game out. The number of hackers on dmz is unbearable. If anyone reading this that has used hacks, I have 0 respect for u
Most 6 mans I’ve been in are just to make missions easier I rate it
Nice video boys once again. But plz tell me what kind of internet connections you guys have since both of you guys seem to have only 0-1ms latency in your vids recently? :) Is it expensive? must be super nice and a BIG upper hand compared to majority of other players also .P
What's your build for the Chimera?
Westie sorry you the worst weather on your vacation. I enjoy your dmz vids. Should have my the trip to Louisiana for some Southern cooking an hospitality sure you would y'all would love it. Enjoy your visit
It’s actually been pretty decent! We’ve managed to miss the rain each day 💪
Why the F you still hunt them? You kill them once, you take all their staff, they manage to recover why the F you need to destroy their game? Explain me this
They’re a 6-man team who pushed us first and shot at us. Me and Stod are a duo.
Go figure.
Westie six man teams are op in a way but I think they need to be down side with it or just increase squad fill with Quads fill for DMZ that only let you have two players join your Squad
This is almost as OP as push to talk on PC.
💯- nobody is talking about this. It’s absolutely bs that console players can be heard communicating while PC players are not unless they push a button within 50m of enemy operators. You can’t disable cross play for DMZ either smh
@@thomasstanley1547 Just use party chat and disable in game chat lol.
@@burgerbait problem with that is that you can’t hear the prox chat
@@thomasstanley1547 mute your mic you weirdo.
@@ryancheshire9603 you really are not bright