Trunks's Ultimate wasn't downgraded to a Super it is the Super Version that has it as an Ultimate while Z Future Trunks has it as an Ultimate to Symbolise the Growth in Power that he has Between Z and Super
@@VuceFinity I just read what i wrote and i made a mistake I meant to say Trunks(super) has it as a super attack while Z has it as an Ultimate to symbise what was once considered trunks's 100% now symbolises a small percentage of it
As always, you keep putting out amazing videos. I'm honestly still not expecting GT or films in this at all until DLC; the inclusion of more and more niche characters to me keeps ruling them out. We also have a full FIFTEEN SLOTS waiting to be taken up by all of Freeza (Z), Cell's remaining 3 forms, all of Evil Bū 's forms, Pure Bū, and the last three Ginyūs. Also the fact that I learned how Babidi's ult worked THROUGH THIS VIDEO is wild.
Yeah it’s deffo looking more unlikely that other saga characters will be included. I’m hoping that at least one of OG DB, GT or Z movies is included in the base though, OG being more likely because it’s technically canon and there’s more leaks supporting it. Thanks for letting me know the maths for the villain form slots, so that’s 49 extras left. Lmao I was so surprised about Babidis ult mechanics too when I found out, there’s so many cool mechanics and features still being found out, BT3 is truly a masterpiece. I hope they carry over and make new unique things for Super characters too, characters shouldn’t be balanced by solely adjusting stats.
@@VuceFinity I don’t remember in what episode it is, but I do know that it is a super attack in Dokkan that features Mai shooting at the enemy. If you search Both of the Trunks and Mai cards in dokkan, they both feature that same slashing attack, and there is also a Z movie trunks in the game that does it as well. Tho, there are two versions of the slash, one in base form like Sparking Zero, and another version in super saiyan form.
@@VuceFinity oh, I also just remembered that there is a Teq dbs Transforming Trunks that also does the attack as well, tho im trying to find the episode where he does it as well.
Oh ok thanks, I don’t play or watch Dokkan so I didn’t know about it. I’m assuming you mean the OVA with Trunks and One Arm Future Gohan, I’ll check that out too if so.
Oh ok I get what you’re trying to say. Let’s use two examples then, Babidi and SSJ2 Goku in Tenkaichi 3. Babidis ultimate -> 20-26,000 damage SSJ2 Goku Super Kamehameha -> 15,120 damage The ultimates shown in SZ so far have definitely been buffed in damage because they’re for the demo. The demo is designed so that it’s fast paced games to get as much gameplay as possible, so they’ve scaled up the damage. Once the final game comes out it’ll all be adjusted appropriately for each character so don’t worry
I can see them implementing some sort of Life or Death mechanic with Goku(Super) where the player can temporarily unlock ultra instinct given that they met certain battle conditions
That’d be fire af man, would really recreate the story experience. I think that’s actually going to be very possible in the custom battle mode because you can customise options like 20% health or maybe even stamina and then you can add a UI transformation point. Something similar to BT3 where you click R3 for the next scenario? Also I’m not sure but did you previously have Shadow as your pfp, suprised to see Sonic now lol. You’re probably hyped for that new Sonic Shadow Generations game dropping close to SZ 🔥
Yeah that’s a fair point too. Imagine it’s like BT3 where you click R3 to swap characters and you see Base Goku swap to Sign, would be tacky af 💀 At the very least I’m sure people will figure it out in the custom battle mode or some mods
Hi im slightly late to the video but i just wanted to ask any ideas on who the "mystery character" will be in the pre-order bonus? Also as usual excellent video, great analysis and information 👍
Hey! No worries, I’m glad you tuned in again! We’ve got some clues for the mystery character, it’s apparently someone that’s never been seen before in the Tenkaichi series. So it’s either a Dragon Ball Super character or an obscure Z character we wouldn’t expect. I saw some other ideas from people it could be Android 21 as she’s so popular in FighterZ, Shallot from Legends or it might even be a new Daima villain that’s revealed very close to launch, as the anime airs. Another viewer suggested another interesting theory to me, since Tenkaichi considers transformations as a separate slot, what if they make the mystery character a Z character with a new transformation? You can see there’s a lot of possibilities. Thanks for the continued support on the channel! 🔥
Killer video, mate!! I love how you always break stuff down. What are predictions for the remaining 64 characters? What type of TOP characters do you think we’ll get? Do you think GT AND OG DB will be in the base roster?
Thanks for the support again bro 🔥 For the remaining 64, they’ve gotta cover all of the Z Villain forms I mentioned and some characters people might forget like Zarbon, Ginyu Force etc… I haven’t worked out the numbers for those slots but it’ll probably be around 20-30 I think. For TOP there’s obviously been quite a few revealed already, mainly U6 and U11 as they appeared a lot in the story. There’s still Cabba and Frost but I think they’re not going to include all their transformations (cut out SSJ2/Frost 2nd) There’ll probably be at least one representative for each universe just for completeness. Yeah I think GT and OG DB will be in the base but they’ll be very limited for sure. Probably just Kid Goku, Demon King Piccolo and maybe some other RR army members. For GT it’d be SSJ4 forms and a few main villains like Omega Shenron and Baby Vegeta.
Wow I love the effort put into this, always love seeing other peoples speculation! I’ll give some general thoughts on it: Cui is a 50/50 for me, I can see them not including Frieza soldiers like that. For Base Trunks melee, I’m assuming you mean Z Future Trunks that comes out of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber to fight Cell? I think he’s already been indirectly confirmed in the SGF Release trailer, he was in a cutscene with SSJ2 Teen Gohan and the other Z Fighters. I think Yakon and Pui Pui will most likely not be in the roster because they weren’t included in BT3, which obviously heavily focused on Z as there was no Super back then. Frost will likely get another transformation slot, probably his final Assault form. Great Ape Gohan will likely be added so that’ll go under Great Ape Goku too. The rest I agree with, awesome roster if this happens! 🔥
@@VuceFinity Thank you! Dragon ball is my favorite show of all time, so I did spend a bit of time making this. Yeah, I could see that. Totally forgot about great ape Gohan. lol. I will die on this hill that OG DB and GT will be in the base roster, but it will only be the core characters, and the rest will be DLC. Movie characters will DLC. Everyone wants them in the base roster, but there is not enough room, and I would much rather have SSj4 than Z Broly or Cooler.
DB is a truly goated show indeed 🐐 I’m also hoping OG DB and GT are in the base too but of course it’ll be limited due to the roster size. As long as we get the core characters like the SSJ4s, Kid Goku, Demon King Piccolo etc.. I’ll be very happy. Agreed once again, I think movie characters are definitely less of a priority compared to the other saga ones. I’d want SSJ4 over them too as they’re such a staple in Tenkaichi. Cooler and Z Broly in DLC will instantly sell for sure.
The length they're going to with the roster is insanity. I mean I understand the logic of having to one-up BT3, but with the low standards these days, they could've easily put lots of characters behind a paywall as part of a season pass or something. I really think they've poured their all into this game, especially with how they're still fixing issues before release. It's a very welcome change to see a dev so dedicated to not cheat fans out of their money and provide such a rich base game. It gives me the confidence to pre-order, which I don't do for almost anything these days
Damn you’re one of the very few I’ve seen that has said positive things about the roster. On the flip side I see a lot of hate saying that GT and Movie characters should be in the base for sure. I think they’ve done well in having a similar size to BT3 and the future looks good because we still have exciting characters to come like Beast Gohan. I really admire the small bug fixes and details too that we can see from trailer to trailer. The producer also has said they plan to implement continuous balance patches and fixes throughout the lifecycle so I have high hopes for the game. I usually don’t pre order games anymore too, the last one I probably did was a Call of Duty one but that game was terrible and I barely played it. I’ve pre ordered the Ultimate Edition so let’s see what Bandai is cooking 🔥
Yeah good point but I think they’ll do something like another transformation panel for Goku that lets you go from Base to Sign/MUI immediately. Unfortunately I don’t see them ever having to do this though, looks like the anime won’t return for 5+ years imo.
Trunks's Ultimate wasn't downgraded to a Super
it is the Super Version that has it as an Ultimate while Z Future Trunks has it as an Ultimate to Symbolise the Growth in Power that he has Between Z and Super
He also confused the slash that Trunks does in Super to the one he used against Frieza.
I’m a bit confused, you’re saying DBS Trunks has it as an ultimate and Z Future Trunks has it as an Ultimate too?
@@VuceFinity I just read what i wrote and i made a mistake
I meant to say Trunks(super) has it as a super attack while Z has it as an Ultimate
to symbise what was once considered trunks's 100%
now symbolises a small percentage of it
Yeah that makes sense, he definitely got a lot stronger from Z to Super.
As always, you keep putting out amazing videos. I'm honestly still not expecting GT or films in this at all until DLC; the inclusion of more and more niche characters to me keeps ruling them out. We also have a full FIFTEEN SLOTS waiting to be taken up by all of Freeza (Z), Cell's remaining 3 forms, all of Evil Bū 's forms, Pure Bū, and the last three Ginyūs. Also the fact that I learned how Babidi's ult worked THROUGH THIS VIDEO is wild.
Yeah it’s deffo looking more unlikely that other saga characters will be included. I’m hoping that at least one of OG DB, GT or Z movies is included in the base though, OG being more likely because it’s technically canon and there’s more leaks supporting it.
Thanks for letting me know the maths for the villain form slots, so that’s 49 extras left.
Lmao I was so surprised about Babidis ult mechanics too when I found out, there’s so many cool mechanics and features still being found out, BT3 is truly a masterpiece.
I hope they carry over and make new unique things for Super characters too, characters shouldn’t be balanced by solely adjusting stats.
1:33 that is not the same attack, thats something he did in Super, very different to what he did to Frieza.
Do you know where exactly he used it in Super?
Shining Slash comes up with the exact same move against Frieza and also looks similar in FighterZ
@@VuceFinity I don’t remember in what episode it is, but I do know that it is a super attack in Dokkan that features Mai shooting at the enemy. If you search Both of the Trunks and Mai cards in dokkan, they both feature that same slashing attack, and there is also a Z movie trunks in the game that does it as well. Tho, there are two versions of the slash, one in base form like Sparking Zero, and another version in super saiyan form.
@@VuceFinity oh, I also just remembered that there is a Teq dbs Transforming Trunks that also does the attack as well, tho im trying to find the episode where he does it as well.
Oh ok thanks, I don’t play or watch Dokkan so I didn’t know about it. I’m assuming you mean the OVA with Trunks and One Arm Future Gohan, I’ll check that out too if so.
Not sure what you mean by Teq. Been a very long time since Super came out so I can’t really remember small details.
Great video I like how you put up examples of everything you mention in the vid nice 👍🏾
Thank you bro, I really appreciate that. More videos coming soon! 🔥
That Babidi move with the amp is the power of one ultimate in Sparking Zero
Which ultimate in SZ uses that mechanic? If you know, could you tell me which demo gameplay you found out from?
@@VuceFinity No with the amp Babidi does 20 to 26000 damage, one God kamehameha from SSJSS blue goku does 36000 damage the ultimates in SZ are broken.
Oh ok I get what you’re trying to say. Let’s use two examples then, Babidi and SSJ2 Goku in Tenkaichi 3.
Babidis ultimate -> 20-26,000 damage
SSJ2 Goku Super Kamehameha -> 15,120 damage
The ultimates shown in SZ so far have definitely been buffed in damage because they’re for the demo. The demo is designed so that it’s fast paced games to get as much gameplay as possible, so they’ve scaled up the damage.
Once the final game comes out it’ll all be adjusted appropriately for each character so don’t worry
I can see them implementing some sort of Life or Death mechanic with Goku(Super) where the player can temporarily unlock ultra instinct given that they met certain battle conditions
I hope so. Would be so dope. If he’s just a separate character, can’t exactly re create Goku vs Jiren
That’d be fire af man, would really recreate the story experience. I think that’s actually going to be very possible in the custom battle mode because you can customise options like 20% health or maybe even stamina and then you can add a UI transformation point. Something similar to BT3 where you click R3 for the next scenario?
Also I’m not sure but did you previously have Shadow as your pfp, suprised to see Sonic now lol. You’re probably hyped for that new Sonic Shadow Generations game dropping close to SZ 🔥
Yeah that’s a fair point too. Imagine it’s like BT3 where you click R3 to swap characters and you see Base Goku swap to Sign, would be tacky af 💀
At the very least I’m sure people will figure it out in the custom battle mode or some mods
@VuceFinity yeah I like to switch between cause bofem are dope asf😂 although ultimately i might end up going with Shadow lol
Lol they’re both cool but my favourite is actually Silver, I remember playing some game on PSP and his design and powers were sleek af 🔥
Hi im slightly late to the video but i just wanted to ask any ideas on who the "mystery character" will be in the pre-order bonus? Also as usual excellent video, great analysis and information 👍
Hey! No worries, I’m glad you tuned in again!
We’ve got some clues for the mystery character, it’s apparently someone that’s never been seen before in the Tenkaichi series.
So it’s either a Dragon Ball Super character or an obscure Z character we wouldn’t expect.
I saw some other ideas from people it could be Android 21 as she’s so popular in FighterZ, Shallot from Legends or it might even be a new Daima villain that’s revealed very close to launch, as the anime airs.
Another viewer suggested another interesting theory to me, since Tenkaichi considers transformations as a separate slot, what if they make the mystery character a Z character with a new transformation? You can see there’s a lot of possibilities.
Thanks for the continued support on the channel! 🔥
1:29 I think the ultimate is a reference too the super android 13 movie
Yeah I see what you mean, pretty similar too.
Killer video, mate!! I love how you always break stuff down. What are predictions for the remaining 64 characters? What type of TOP characters do you think we’ll get? Do you think GT AND OG DB will be in the base roster?
Thanks for the support again bro 🔥 For the remaining 64, they’ve gotta cover all of the Z Villain forms I mentioned and some characters people might forget like Zarbon, Ginyu Force etc…
I haven’t worked out the numbers for those slots but it’ll probably be around 20-30 I think.
For TOP there’s obviously been quite a few revealed already, mainly U6 and U11 as they appeared a lot in the story. There’s still Cabba and Frost but I think they’re not going to include all their transformations (cut out SSJ2/Frost 2nd)
There’ll probably be at least one representative for each universe just for completeness.
Yeah I think GT and OG DB will be in the base but they’ll be very limited for sure. Probably just Kid Goku, Demon King Piccolo and maybe some other RR army members. For GT it’d be SSJ4 forms and a few main villains like Omega Shenron and Baby Vegeta.
@@VuceFinity very much agreed! I think that the base roster will primarily focus on DBZ and Super with DLC giving us movie characters, and expanding on OG DB and GT.
Here is what I think will be the remaining 61 characters. Ssj Adult gohan, Dr.Gero, and great saiyaman already factored in.
- [x] 1.Chaiostu
- [ ] Saibamen
- [ ] Cui
- [ ] Dodoria
- [ ] Zarbon
- [ ] Monster zarbon
- [ ] Guldo
- [ ] Recoome
- [ ] Ginyu
- [ ] 1st form frieza
- [ ] 2nd form frieza
- [ ] 3rd form frieza
- [ ] Final frieza
- [ ] 100% frieza
- [ ] Android 19
- [ ] Android 16
- [ ] Cell 1
- [ ] Semi percent cell
- [ ] Super perfect cell
- [ ] Cell jr
- [ ] Teen gohan
- [ ] Ssj teen
- [ ] Ssj2 teen
- [ ] Base fighting trunks
- [ ] Super buu
- [ ] Ultimate gohan
- [ ] Buutenks
- [ ] Buuhan
- [ ] Kid buu
- [ ] Yakon
- [ ] Pui Pui
- [ ] Cabba
- [ ] Ssj cabba
- [ ] Frost
- [ ] Botamo
- [ ] Magetta
- [ ] Sobel
- [ ] Pilna
- [ ] Obuni
- [ ] Jimize
- [ ] God toppo
- [ ] K’nshi
- [ ] Basil
- [ ] Lavender
- [ ] Ganos
- [ ] Ganos (Transformed)
- [ ] Kid goku
- [ ] Great ape goku
- [ ] General Blue
- [ ] King piccolo
- [ ] Pilaf machine
- [ ] General Tao
- [ ] Ssj4 Goku
- [ ] Ssj4 Vegeta
- [ ] Ssj4 Gogeta
- [ ] Syn Shenron
- [ ] Omega Sheron
- [ ] Super baby
- [ ] Great ape baby
- [ ] UUB
- [ ] MAJUUB
Wow I love the effort put into this, always love seeing other peoples speculation!
I’ll give some general thoughts on it:
Cui is a 50/50 for me, I can see them not including Frieza soldiers like that.
For Base Trunks melee, I’m assuming you mean Z Future Trunks that comes out of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber to fight Cell?
I think he’s already been indirectly confirmed in the SGF Release trailer, he was in a cutscene with SSJ2 Teen Gohan and the other Z Fighters.
I think Yakon and Pui Pui will most likely not be in the roster because they weren’t included in BT3, which obviously heavily focused on Z as there was no Super back then.
Frost will likely get another transformation slot, probably his final Assault form.
Great Ape Gohan will likely be added so that’ll go under Great Ape Goku too.
The rest I agree with, awesome roster if this happens! 🔥
@@VuceFinity Thank you! Dragon ball is my favorite show of all time, so I did spend a bit of time making this.
Yeah, I could see that. Totally forgot about great ape Gohan. lol. I will die on this hill that OG DB and GT will be in the base roster, but it will only be the core characters, and the rest will be DLC.
Movie characters will DLC. Everyone wants them in the base roster, but there is not enough room, and I would much rather have SSj4 than Z Broly or Cooler.
DB is a truly goated show indeed 🐐
I’m also hoping OG DB and GT are in the base too but of course it’ll be limited due to the roster size.
As long as we get the core characters like the SSJ4s, Kid Goku, Demon King Piccolo etc.. I’ll be very happy.
Agreed once again, I think movie characters are definitely less of a priority compared to the other saga ones. I’d want SSJ4 over them too as they’re such a staple in Tenkaichi.
Cooler and Z Broly in DLC will instantly sell for sure.
Every character shouldn't be shown before the game comes out
Why not? Its not some huge secret who would make the game if the anime was watched.
@@JayJoe1984 exactly
@@JayJoe1984Exactly, if they want people to buy the game, they definitily need to show everything
Its boring as fuck if you see every character and theres no hype to who can be on the roster.
@@TheReZisTLust and there's no hype if you don't know who's in the game so idk how that's broing asf knowing the characters in the game
The length they're going to with the roster is insanity. I mean I understand the logic of having to one-up BT3, but with the low standards these days, they could've easily put lots of characters behind a paywall as part of a season pass or something. I really think they've poured their all into this game, especially with how they're still fixing issues before release. It's a very welcome change to see a dev so dedicated to not cheat fans out of their money and provide such a rich base game. It gives me the confidence to pre-order, which I don't do for almost anything these days
Damn you’re one of the very few I’ve seen that has said positive things about the roster. On the flip side I see a lot of hate saying that GT and Movie characters should be in the base for sure.
I think they’ve done well in having a similar size to BT3 and the future looks good because we still have exciting characters to come like Beast Gohan. I really admire the small bug fixes and details too that we can see from trailer to trailer.
The producer also has said they plan to implement continuous balance patches and fixes throughout the lifecycle so I have high hopes for the game.
I usually don’t pre order games anymore too, the last one I probably did was a Call of Duty one but that game was terrible and I barely played it.
I’ve pre ordered the Ultimate Edition so let’s see what Bandai is cooking 🔥
@VuceFinity Hell yeah dude. Appreciate the reply, and good video 👍
Thank you the support bro, I always love reading some good feedback and thoughts 🔥
Yo BRO great video as always.
Thanks so much man, I appreciate you always supporting the videos 🔥
having ultra instinct and sign seperated makes sense, but also if they ever go into manga content at all its gonna make it way more complicated
I had this discussion with my colleagues the other day. The devs will have to worry about the other modes of mui including sussano lol
@@itstoasty7089 im sure if they did a moro dlc it would be perfected ui with an ultimate that is the sussano
Yeah good point but I think they’ll do something like another transformation panel for Goku that lets you go from Base to Sign/MUI immediately.
Unfortunately I don’t see them ever having to do this though, looks like the anime won’t return for 5+ years imo.
Yeah that’d be a cold ultimate move, I won’t be surprised if modders make something like that.
Nice pfp btw, T.O.P. Android 17 was the GOAT 🐐
@@VuceFinity agreed
British Zach Hadel goes hard
Bro you are amazing
Ayy thanks so much man, it really means a lot to me! 🔥
they need to add the step/Z vanish move from xenoverse 2. it looks so dope!
This is tenkaichi not xenoverse it's solely focused on bt mechanics while adding new ones
@@DerriousGamez if they add the z vanish move it will only improve gameplay
@@21almog and make it more annoying? nah i think it'll just stick to the tenkaichi controls
I haven’t played XV2 in years so I had to watch some clips again. The motion looks cool for sure!
Tbh I think most people would agree with you, there’s a lot of returning BT players for SZ that want a similar Tenkaichi experience.
Huh, didn't know that.
Nah, Trunks super is relating to FighterZ auto combo. Not what he did against Frieza
You’re referring to Shining Sword attack in FighterZ, which is the exact same move in motion.
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