This is the first video I've seen of yours, though far from my first fantasy booktuber video. I just have to say, I love the "here's all the math and justification of why I ranked things the way I did" followed immediately by "throw that all out, because here is what my heart says". I feel that! Happy to be a new subscriber, and I'm looking forward to seeing more!
@@jakebishop7822 Definitely looking forward to seeing more. I have to say I bounced off the Dresden Files pretty hard, and I haven't read Sun Eater yet, but otherwise I love the others you mentioned and it's great to see someone talk about them with such passion.
I could've guessed several of these, but I enjoyed the presentation immensely! I haven't read any Dresden books, but I love what you said about how Butcher started the series not having a significant skill but constantly improved on each one throughout the series. Sounds heroic and inspiring!
THANK YOU for showing love to the Burning books. I adore them too and I agree the second one is better simply because we get to see Tau have a deeper inner monologue and more complex relationships around him
Great video. ASOIAF is my favorite series and A Storm of Swords is my all time favorite single book in any series or stand alone. You definitely owe it to yourself to re-read this at an older age. Its not really a series I see teenagers reading and getting into as its fairly complex with lots of characters etc. as you well know. I've read a lot over the past 30 years but I still have lots to read, including some on your list here. I'm currently reading Project Hail Mary to break up the Abercrombie books of which I've read The First Law trilogy and BSC and loved them. I'll finish Project Hail Mary then move on to The Heroes, and the rest from there. I have The Suneater and The Stormlight Archive on my TBR list and can't wait to get to them. Thanks for the great video.
an ASOIAF reread is definitely going to happen! I'm honestly even more excited for A Feast For Crows, because past me already loved ASOS(although I expect to like it even more), but I think AFFC will improve the most on reread
Took me two tries to get through A Game of Thrones. I think I tried in 7th grade (so like 12) and it was too boring. Tried again in 9th grade and loved all of them. But definitely something you work your way up to, like it's not your next step after Redwall.
I was getting angry that Sun Eater was so low, and then I saw your top 2 and realize things were exactly as they should be. We may not be a majority these days but I’m right with you on loving the Burning! You’re not crazy! Love your detailed scoring systems!
Jake - this was brilliantly done. Take a bow. I’m especially glad you pushed back on the prose issue for both Sanderson & Butcher. The job of prose is to tell the story. They should not be built to admire on their own. Some books need the flow of elegant prose, others need efficiency. The latter is not lesser. Always, always prose should serve, not lead. It’s really just that simple. You hit that hard and I’m glad to hear it. Thank you.
Great video! Love seeing Dresden Files so high up! Jim Butcher is one of my favorite authors. I even enjoyed Codex Alera. Also you’re spot on about Suneater. In the middle of reading that now and it hits all the marks.
Not related to the video at all, but i just listened to a discussion you were on a couple of years ago, talking about "Best served cold" by Joe abercrombie. You kept bringing up the fact that Cosca threw a knife that chopped a dudes head off as a reason for not liking the book. You did it so many times that it botherd me so much that i had to make a comment on your latest video in hopes of you seeing it . Cosca's knife that he threw did not chop the dudes head of, he chopped the dudes head of with his sword. "It was him that Cosca flung his knife at. It twittered through the air and thudded into the young man's side, doubling him over. Cosca charged in behind it, aiming for the chest. Perhaps the boy leaned forwards, or perhaps Cosca's aim was wayward, but the blade caught the officer's neck and, in a spectacular justification of all the sharpening, took his head clean off." . Thanks for reading my psycho rant about a comment you made 2 years ago, ted talk over.
Yes you are right, I am aware I read that bit incorrectly. Found out like a few months ago and did indeed feel very dumb. Still don't like the book, because that didn't actually move the needle that much, it was that I didn't care what happened to anyone not named Shivers.
Hi Jake, I am a subscriber to your channel and would like your viewpoint on something...what do you think of ebooks v physical format? I prefer the actual book but with older paperbacks being difficult to obtain e.g. deleted by the publisher etc, do you think e books offer a good option? Cheers David from the UK
I like owning physical books, but reading ebooks is basically the same. The words are the same. For some books it's a hassle if you want to flip to the map or Dramatis Personae frequently
I hope that this insanely detailed rating system makes all the 'I don't do ratings' people very uncomfortable 🤣🤣 Loved this list and your reasonings for them! And heck yes for Stormlight being your no.1, your unapologetic gushing brings me endless joy.
@@jakebishop7822 On the surface you did nothing besides spending the time to film and edit a video about your opinions on fantasy literature, but a deeper look reveals that you entertained me while I waited for my pasta water to boil which is quite profound if you think about it
I like the list Jake, when it comes to books, reading is for pleasure not for statistics (statistics can go screw themselves). I have to confess I haven't read a single book from any of the series on your list, but I do have Empire of Silence & Storm Front ready to go sometime soon.
@@jakebishop7822 I suppose it might be because I had a reduced amount of time for reading from the early 2000's. I'm trying to fill in the gaps in my reading now.
Since you like to do lists and I like to watch them...a suggestion/request...to do a Top 10 of the last 5 years(publish date) and/or a Top 10 of the last 10 years(publish date). I love lists but it's OOOOOoooooolllllldddddddd to continually see LoTR, WoT, ASOIAF, Realm of the Elderlings, etc, etc, etc...don't care, we all know....hahaha right? So yeah, a Top 10 that only included the last 10 years worth of books would be great...hell, even a top 10 of the last 20 years would exclude all those series as well and could work....20 years ago would eliminate the Dresden Files as well since the first couple books were further back than 20 years. So yeah...first video Top 10 of last 20 years....second video Top 10 of last 10 years....third video Top 10 of last 5 years. : ) Anyway, first video I've seen from you and will be subscribing.
This is a good idea, but I generally don't read a ton of stuff right away as it comes out, so I worry I just wouldn't have enough series, and I also think it would be a lot of the same series still. Green Bone, Age of Madness, Sun Eater, Dandelion, etc.
@@jakebishop7822 Gotcha, yeah if most of your list is already in the last 5 years then nothing would change much. Taking a quick look at your 2021 Top 10 video looking at the first book in each series... Banished Lands = 11 years old The First Law = 17 yrs Mistborn = 17 yrs Malazan = 24 yrs Codex = 19 yrs The Burning = 6 yrs Dresden = 23 yrs WoT = 33 yrs Stormlight = 13 yrs Realm = 28 yrs Then including the ones you just mentioned Green Bone = 6 yrs Age of Madness if you are separating this out from all of the first law then this would be = 4 yrs Sun Eater = 5 yrs Dandelion = 8 yrs But yeah, everything but The Burning wouldn't be eligible to be in a Top 10 in the last 10 years from that original list from 2021...I didn't see a newer Top 10 list you've made, i may have overlooked it. Anyway, good stuff!
@@PreppinShootinLivin i don't mean I already have one, just that it would still have a lot of series you already see. My top 10 is going to be pretty spread out in terms of publication year
I really enjoyed this video. A bit heavy on the fantasy side admittedly, but I now have 3 new book series I need to check out when I have the chance. I’m curious if you’ve ever found a good sci/fantasy series that’s caught your interest.
Thanks. Both of my favorite sci fi series are kinda sci fantasy. I often find the line between the 2 genre's can be quite blurred. One is The Sun Eater which I talked about here, and have described as an epic that happens to take place in a future human empire, and the other is The Book of the New Sun by Gene Wolfe which will be on my completed series list.
3:25 Are you wearing a golf shirt? 5:58 Also, I totally hear you on the doing absurd amounts of mental effort into something just to not actually use it enough to justify said effort.😅
It's a shirt that was purchased from a golf store, not a shirt meant to be worn golfing. I kinda used it. I didn't have a system, but it helped me make the list
Thanks for the input, I can never tell because I already know what i'm saying, so it's easier to understand me. I will turn it down lower in the future
If you liked Sun Eater why did you turn up the already too loud and too repetitive music? I cannot really hear what you think about since the repetitive bad music is louder that what you are saying? Of the five series Sun Eater is by far the most loud. Its bad music and a short repeat. Get rid of the music or turn is down a LOT for all of them and don't turn it way up for one of them ever.
Ya, I've accidentally done this a couple times, because when I listen to it, I know what I said, so it is really easy to tell what I said. The same way if you listen to a song you haven't heard with the lyrics in front of you, you can hear all the words distinctly, and it is hard to imagine hearing the song and not being able to tell what the words are. That or I secretly hate The Sun Eater and wanted to obscure the nice things I said about it, whatever.
@@jakebishop7822 It was too loud in all 5 and it is not needed in the first place. You did an interview with Jim Butcher, no music. So why here? This is not something that needs or should have music.
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This is the first video I've seen of yours, though far from my first fantasy booktuber video. I just have to say, I love the "here's all the math and justification of why I ranked things the way I did" followed immediately by "throw that all out, because here is what my heart says". I feel that! Happy to be a new subscriber, and I'm looking forward to seeing more!
Thanks a lot! I hope you enjoy the other videos.
The math guides my heart, but it doesn't get the final say.
@@jakebishop7822 Definitely looking forward to seeing more. I have to say I bounced off the Dresden Files pretty hard, and I haven't read Sun Eater yet, but otherwise I love the others you mentioned and it's great to see someone talk about them with such passion.
I see Sun Eater and I guve a like.
This must be.
I could've guessed several of these, but I enjoyed the presentation immensely! I haven't read any Dresden books, but I love what you said about how Butcher started the series not having a significant skill but constantly improved on each one throughout the series. Sounds heroic and inspiring!
Thanks, I think I was relatively predictable.
The background music for Sun Eater was lit 🔥 haha
It’s a top 5 series all time for me, and depending on the last 2 books could end up number 1.
Well I can tell you Disquiet Gods is phenomenal, so hopefully that helps it's chances
@@jakebishop7822 Let’s go!
THANK YOU for showing love to the Burning books. I adore them too and I agree the second one is better simply because we get to see Tau have a deeper inner monologue and more complex relationships around him
In general I think the supporting cast is much stronger as well. Love those 2 books
@@jakebishop7822 I also admire how much thought goes into your rankings, even though surely some people will find ways to complain. Great videos
Dresden and Stormlight are easily in my top 5 series of all time, they’re sooooo good
Love to hear it
Great video. ASOIAF is my favorite series and A Storm of Swords is my all time favorite single book in any series or stand alone. You definitely owe it to yourself to re-read this at an older age. Its not really a series I see teenagers reading and getting into as its fairly complex with lots of characters etc. as you well know. I've read a lot over the past 30 years but I still have lots to read, including some on your list here. I'm currently reading Project Hail Mary to break up the Abercrombie books of which I've read The First Law trilogy and BSC and loved them. I'll finish Project Hail Mary then move on to The Heroes, and the rest from there. I have The Suneater and The Stormlight Archive on my TBR list and can't wait to get to them. Thanks for the great video.
an ASOIAF reread is definitely going to happen! I'm honestly even more excited for A Feast For Crows, because past me already loved ASOS(although I expect to like it even more), but I think AFFC will improve the most on reread
Took me two tries to get through A Game of Thrones. I think I tried in 7th grade (so like 12) and it was too boring. Tried again in 9th grade and loved all of them. But definitely something you work your way up to, like it's not your next step after Redwall.
I was getting angry that Sun Eater was so low, and then I saw your top 2 and realize things were exactly as they should be.
We may not be a majority these days but I’m right with you on loving the Burning! You’re not crazy!
Love your detailed scoring systems!
Thanks,
The top 2 were not negotiable. Honestly the order for the 5 was not super difficult, the top 10 complete series was much harder
Jake - this was brilliantly done. Take a bow. I’m especially glad you pushed back on the prose issue for both Sanderson & Butcher. The job of prose is to tell the story. They should not be built to admire on their own. Some books need the flow of elegant prose, others need efficiency. The latter is not lesser. Always, always prose should serve, not lead. It’s really just that simple. You hit that hard and I’m glad to hear it. Thank you.
Thanks a lot, I really appreciate comments like this, they bring joy
Great video! Love seeing Dresden Files so high up! Jim Butcher is one of my favorite authors. I even enjoyed Codex Alera. Also you’re spot on about Suneater. In the middle of reading that now and it hits all the marks.
Thanks.
Codex Alera will be featured in the complete series list.
Top notch Captain Kirrahe reference
In a way it is Evan Winter that made the reference, by having people hold the line
Fantastic video Jake!
ASOIAF, Second Apocalypse, Dresden Files, Gentleman Bastard and I guess Kithimar for me.
Wait, who wrote Kithimar?
@@jakebishop7822Daniel Abraham.
BTW Jake, I'm finally reading Mistborn. I'm loving Final Empire so far
Great video Jake! I love the list! I really need to continue Sun Eater! My top 3 are ASOIAF, Stormlight and Dresden
Very good choices
Not related to the video at all, but i just listened to a discussion you were on a couple of years ago, talking about "Best served cold" by Joe abercrombie. You kept bringing up the fact that Cosca threw a knife that chopped a dudes head off as a reason for not liking the book. You did it so many times that it botherd me so much that i had to make a comment on your latest video in hopes of you seeing it . Cosca's knife that he threw did not chop the dudes head of, he chopped the dudes head of with his sword.
"It was him that Cosca flung his knife at. It twittered through the air and thudded into the young man's side, doubling him over. Cosca charged in behind it, aiming for the chest. Perhaps the boy leaned forwards, or perhaps Cosca's aim was wayward, but the blade caught the officer's neck and, in a spectacular justification of all the sharpening, took his head clean off." .
Thanks for reading my psycho rant about a comment you made 2 years ago, ted talk over.
Yes you are right, I am aware I read that bit incorrectly. Found out like a few months ago and did indeed feel very dumb. Still don't like the book, because that didn't actually move the needle that much, it was that I didn't care what happened to anyone not named Shivers.
Its so nice seeing stormlight at n1 from someone who is well and diversly read in the genre and outside of it. Life before death jake 👑
Strength before weakness Ves
@@jakebishop7822 journey before destination
Bro…your system is insanity…love it!
Appreciate it
Loved your PASSION in this video, a new subscriber 😊
Gracias
Hi Jake, I am a subscriber to your channel and would like your viewpoint on something...what do you think of ebooks v physical format? I prefer the actual book but with older paperbacks being difficult to obtain e.g. deleted by the publisher etc, do you think e books offer a good option? Cheers David from the UK
I like owning physical books, but reading ebooks is basically the same. The words are the same. For some books it's a hassle if you want to flip to the map or Dramatis Personae frequently
I hope that this insanely detailed rating system makes all the 'I don't do ratings' people very uncomfortable 🤣🤣
Loved this list and your reasonings for them! And heck yes for Stormlight being your no.1, your unapologetic gushing brings me endless joy.
Life before death.
I find ratings useful
@@jakebishop7822 Because they are ✨️
Asoiaf being #5 makes me sad but it will be so much more satisfying when it jumps on reread
At least this time it made the list
Thank your sir!
I don't know what I'm being thanked for, but you're welcome
@@jakebishop7822 On the surface you did nothing besides spending the time to film and edit a video about your opinions on fantasy literature, but a deeper look reveals that you entertained me while I waited for my pasta water to boil which is quite profound if you think about it
Us Burning fans need to stick together. They can’t take it away from us Jake!
You're god damn right
This is the first video I have watched, it will not be the last. I love the letter grade thing I always rate books A-F.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
Good stuff. I should be reading Changes in August, and I still need to read Stormlight at some point.
Ch ch ch changes
@@jakebishop7822 The hype is real.
I like the list Jake, when it comes to books, reading is for pleasure not for statistics (statistics can go screw themselves).
I have to confess I haven't read a single book from any of the series on your list, but I do have Empire of Silence & Storm Front ready to go sometime soon.
Shocking confession!
Well, is a touch surprising, considering they aren't the most original picks
@@jakebishop7822 I suppose it might be because I had a reduced amount of time for reading from the early 2000's. I'm trying to fill in the gaps in my reading now.
Since you like to do lists and I like to watch them...a suggestion/request...to do a Top 10 of the last 5 years(publish date) and/or a Top 10 of the last 10 years(publish date). I love lists but it's OOOOOoooooolllllldddddddd to continually see LoTR, WoT, ASOIAF, Realm of the Elderlings, etc, etc, etc...don't care, we all know....hahaha right? So yeah, a Top 10 that only included the last 10 years worth of books would be great...hell, even a top 10 of the last 20 years would exclude all those series as well and could work....20 years ago would eliminate the Dresden Files as well since the first couple books were further back than 20 years.
So yeah...first video Top 10 of last 20 years....second video Top 10 of last 10 years....third video Top 10 of last 5 years. : )
Anyway, first video I've seen from you and will be subscribing.
This is a good idea, but I generally don't read a ton of stuff right away as it comes out, so I worry I just wouldn't have enough series, and I also think it would be a lot of the same series still. Green Bone, Age of Madness, Sun Eater, Dandelion, etc.
@@jakebishop7822 Gotcha, yeah if most of your list is already in the last 5 years then nothing would change much. Taking a quick look at your 2021 Top 10 video looking at the first book in each series...
Banished Lands = 11 years old
The First Law = 17 yrs
Mistborn = 17 yrs
Malazan = 24 yrs
Codex = 19 yrs
The Burning = 6 yrs
Dresden = 23 yrs
WoT = 33 yrs
Stormlight = 13 yrs
Realm = 28 yrs
Then including the ones you just mentioned
Green Bone = 6 yrs
Age of Madness if you are separating this out from all of the first law then this would be = 4 yrs
Sun Eater = 5 yrs
Dandelion = 8 yrs
But yeah, everything but The Burning wouldn't be eligible to be in a Top 10 in the last 10 years from that original list from 2021...I didn't see a newer Top 10 list you've made, i may have overlooked it.
Anyway, good stuff!
@@PreppinShootinLivin i don't mean I already have one, just that it would still have a lot of series you already see. My top 10 is going to be pretty spread out in terms of publication year
I really enjoyed this video. A bit heavy on the fantasy side admittedly, but I now have 3 new book series I need to check out when I have the chance. I’m curious if you’ve ever found a good sci/fantasy series that’s caught your interest.
Thanks.
Both of my favorite sci fi series are kinda sci fantasy. I often find the line between the 2 genre's can be quite blurred.
One is The Sun Eater which I talked about here, and have described as an epic that happens to take place in a future human empire, and the other is The Book of the New Sun by Gene Wolfe which will be on my completed series list.
@@jakebishop7822 Thanks for the recommendations, I'll keep them both in mind,
3:25 Are you wearing a golf shirt? 5:58 Also, I totally hear you on the doing absurd amounts of mental effort into something just to not actually use it enough to justify said effort.😅
It's a shirt that was purchased from a golf store, not a shirt meant to be worn golfing.
I kinda used it. I didn't have a system, but it helped me make the list
It's been 12 years since George has finished a book in the series, which is perhaps stretching the definition of on-going just a little.
Technically correct, the best kind of correct
Good vid but the background music feels a little bit to high
Thanks for the input, I can never tell because I already know what i'm saying, so it's easier to understand me. I will turn it down lower in the future
Mandatory new Jake Bishop video meme
it must be done
If you liked Sun Eater why did you turn up the already too loud and too repetitive music? I cannot really hear what you think about since the repetitive bad music is louder that what you are saying? Of the five series Sun Eater is by far the most loud. Its bad music and a short repeat. Get rid of the music or turn is down a LOT for all of them and don't turn it way up for one of them ever.
Ya, I've accidentally done this a couple times, because when I listen to it, I know what I said, so it is really easy to tell what I said. The same way if you listen to a song you haven't heard with the lyrics in front of you, you can hear all the words distinctly, and it is hard to imagine hearing the song and not being able to tell what the words are.
That or I secretly hate The Sun Eater and wanted to obscure the nice things I said about it, whatever.
@@jakebishop7822
It was too loud in all 5 and it is not needed in the first place. You did an interview with Jim Butcher, no music. So why here? This is not something that needs or should have music.
Lol. Math 😂🎉
well....math ish