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Ok lemme just say that UA-cam needs to get their sh*t together they’ve needed to for about 3-4 years and each 6 months they’ve been getting worse and worse sometimes they have fixed it but most times they’ve needed to and still need to. #justiceforactman
@@neotoad456 I'm not a Quantum fan. I'd never even heard of him until ActMan (who I'm subscribed to) did his videos, I just want to know all the facts.
@@neotoad456 whoa, slow down there Buckeroo. This could be a geniune question cause some people are more involved with it than others. You shouldnt be so quick to put a line where one isnt needed.
I gotta say, Act Man being fucked over harder than anything I've seen is actually crazy. The fact he called out QTV, a guy who's openly a horrible horrible person, and is able to abuse the easily broken and insanely unfair Copyright system. UA-cam is straight up attacking him imo, I know Act isn't completely innocent here because even jokes about doxxing should be kept to yourself because doxxing is a serious issue, that said Act shouldn't have gotten demonotized tho, and could've been privately warned and or reminded about how to appropriately handle himself outside of UA-cam. That said, UA-cam ducking Optimus because of his open criticism towards them due to their completely bullshit call of taking away the ability to make money from someone who calls them out on their own bull. Tbh now I'm terrified for anyone who covers this situation, and or has ever critiqued UA-cam, whether on or off platform because it's obvious they wanna protect people who go out of their way to be horrid people. That's just not fair. If my comment dissapears or my acc is deleted, we all know YT is openly homophobic, allows ban evading, enjoys allowing people to dox others, and is completely and openly fine with QTV and others doing these same exact actions. Guess we'll find out, outside of that this was another banger video Bowblax.
@@ifirespondiamstupid7750 exactly, UA-cam taking action over twitter stuff, a different social media aside from Yt (be it either The Act Man or QTV) is stupid... Take action on what they do on YT, which QTV did and admitting it on his own channel.
Jokes that UA-cam took as legitimate threats. They are soft and only used them because they were salty from being called out on their heresy. The jokes were to show the hypocrisy of UA-cam where they will defend themselves but not someone on their site. It’s down right insane in my opinion
the act man may reveal his true interself, i mean he even did say that if youtube wont follow all of its tos like hate speech and sexual content. i hope the act man goes into a sexually frustrated bigoted rant copyright infringing doxxing swearing to murder him soon.
All I’ve got was that the ActMan is being severely punished over non-existent “sexual content and nudity” and a satirical tweet UA-cam is being beyond unreasonable
Seriously, that shit is so ass backwards that you cannot blame anyone for believing that UA-cam is straight up targeting him. It’s like beating up someone who robbed your house and held you at gunpoint, took that robber to the police department yourself, only for the police to arrest you because you assaulted the robber.
My god do you not have eyes have you not seen the vid ??? The sheer sexual power of Act Attorney got me acting unwisely Imagine what would happen if children saw them
If people are going to go on about how UA-cam is a job, then you're going to have to hold them to the same standards that'll get someone fired like in any other job. One reason to fire someone includes: talking about harassing and leaking the private information of your employers. It doesn't matter if you go "IT WAS JUST A PRANK BRO", once you step into that territory, most companies are handing you your pink slip and a trip out the door.
Hahaha I don’t agree with all of Papa Gut’s takes on this matter but he handled all that like a champ, especially that zing to Keem, bet he was even laughing about that lmao
to make the quantum situation worse, he has also gotten youtube to go strike reviewtechusa for being a quantum critic. quantum has officially got youtube to strike at not 1 but 2 of his critics. looks like youtube has made it clear, either side with quantum or they will protect him and crush his opposition
Not just those two either. Camelot331 who has covered this as well as other corporate 8bVs3 has the same situation as ReviewTechUSA (UA-cam email saying everything is demonetized and has to be held for manually review where they'll determine if he's able to get paid on it or not). Additionally, on ReviewTechUSA's stream a tr8ns creator and others had their videos on the subject demonetized. Others have said they were also. #JusticeForActMan
Many more then that hes been doing this for years hes a literal sicopath and a real homophobe as in he worse then just legeslation against it so well makeing veiled threts is way worse then siterical tweets of stuff that quantum had been doing for fucking years
How to win a Twitter argument 101: 1. Start a meaningless argument with a random person on Twitter 2. Go into their dms and continue to harass them as much as you can 3. Then finally, post your dms (but make sure it’s only the parts that make you look like a victim) so that everyone can see It’s generally frustrating seeing how grown adults will do middle school level tactics just to look right. Not saying Act man is in the right, but kicking the man while he’s already down just for some clout doesn’t make you better.
It is particularly funny when you remember Tommy & Jaystation started this by claiming they're the only Adults here acting talking like Adults... yeah it's depressingly teenage girl bullying crap. Actman still could have handled it better.
@@bobhamster3235 when this whole thing stops, it’s a sign that everyone has accepted or forgot about it. That gives UA-cam the green light that it’s over and then they’ll completely gloss over everything as if nothing ever happened and move on. Act man will stay suspended. Quantum will thrive. Everyone will continue to live in fear. The rules will mean nothing in the end. Better to keep any chance of correction then to just let UA-cam go back to ignoring everything again. I can see the point to not wanting to talk about it but to try and snip at him in the process and to make a video laughing at his doxxing situation says a ton about them.
@@bobhamster3235 He shouldn't be silence but he does need to calm the fuck down and play a different game with youtube who are being fucking stupid about this.
I don't agree with what Act Man did with the Tommy C situation, but I don't really blame him either. UA-cam is harshly punishing this guy for jokes he made about their lack of action with QuantumTV, so naturally he'd look at everyone else's shit and say "Why aren't they being treated the same way?" In my eyes, he's keeping the same energy he started with, and with that I can't find myself being mad. If anything, I find it really strange how a lot of creators are trying to beat him down so much that he DOES snap this way. Like, Tommy's video was obviously bait to try and prove Act Man was "bad" or whatever. Act Man just wants everything to be fair game, and it makes sense considering everyone under the sun is getting away with this shit except for him. That's what I think at least. I just feel bad for him, it's clearly taking a toll and Tommy and Willy aren't making it any better.
Now Nicholas too, if the end of the video is anything to go by. You can admit somebody went too far (I don’t really think so) but at the same time be just as critical of the causation. Clearly people don’t seem to like criticizing the cause and instead like pointing and laughing at the effect.
I agree, I think ActMan going at this with a if I have to fight to get the rules enforced mentality, he should take every action he can He was a bit too emotional about it yes, but if he's trying to send a message of either all or nothing in terms of rules, I think it's fair game
Tommy, Willy, Nicolas and all those ankle-biting clout chasers are pathetic and have no idea how to look objectively at situations, because it doesn't behoove them to do so. Then they're shocked when they try to grandstand morals and people tell them to fuck off. Nicolas defended rapists and attacked Etika in his final days, just to get attention.
This entire story is going nowhere. Quantum getting away with shit, YT being silent, ActMan catching heat for just speaking his mind. No one is winning here
I hate people acting like The Actman isn't using Twitter the same way everybody else does but because he's in the scrutiny seat where pretending it's different. Meanwhile Google is thrilled people are cannibalizing each other because then they don't have to deal with anything.
Meah. They are not that bad. I wouldn't think any conversation is really private when talking to anyone on the internet regardless of who they are or how trustworthy they may be.
@@jumbokins9919 "I'm Just Asking Questions, Bro" is a tactic known as concern trolling When you pretend to express concern while asking questions but instead use it to derail the discussion
the act man shouldn't have tweeted several of the things he did. that said...he is losing his livelyhood, over jokes. and then he sees others make jokes and nothing happens. from his POV I cannot imagine anything but infuriation, and he can't really do much about the situation because the only way to get a response from youtube, is twitter. it's not healthy for him, at least in my opinion, but people calling him unhinged and things like that are honestly being a bit shortsightened.
bro the reason he's being emotional isn't just because of the jokes, it because he called out a bigot on youtube with multiple pieces of evidence, and then got that same video taken down because youtube didn't like the fact he called them out for not enforcing their rules. He just got his entire job taken away for trying to do the right thing. I don't understand how people can even be against the act man in this situation, he was just trying to do the right thing and get a bigot removed from the platform for breaking multiple of youtube's rules. I guess everyone has to have an opinion that is unpopular to seem "different" even if that opinion makes no sense.
@@OverlyCriticalAnime context. For example a bunch of poorly planned satirical tweets vs a coordinated video featuring a terminated UA-camr with the idea of baiting another UA-camr by laughing at the fact said youtuber’s mother got doxxed
@@justanormalaccountnothingt1571 Does that make it less of a joke? Of course not. Context doesn't really come in play here and him calling his mom is not doxxing her. It's creepy as shit yes but not doxxing.
@@OverlyCriticalAnime It's not technically doxxing, but it is pretty clearly an implicit threat of doxxing. Why else would QTV call his (not public) mom otherwise? Did he think Act Man was an elementary schooler or something?
Honestly I'm surprised that a lot of people didn't talk or call out Tommy C for having an awful take, having too big an ego to change his stance, say to the Act Man's face that he didn't care about evidence and wasn't going to change his mind, and then baited act man by platforming jaystation about calling act man's mom. How is somebody like that ruining a news show? I don't blame act man for getting angry with Tommy C for all the shit he pulled, and trying to strike Tommy C (even though he violated tos but whatever) was dumb, but I think its stupid that nearly everybody moved on from the original point of Quantum TV and are now not supporting act man
I understand where Act Man's coming from for being emotional about this. He just lost his job over trying to speak out about problems on the website. He should try to control his emotions and be more professional next time but I wouldn't rag on him being emotional about this since you really have to understand where he is coming from, I know I do because I lost my channel that I worked on for 7 years for a BS reason and I have no support to get it back. Just imagine having all your years of work being taken away from you unfairly.
So we shouldn't get rid of someone who openly doxxes, ban evades, makes actual homophobic tweets and videos, abuses the DMCA, & as much as I don't like this word because I don't agree with it but hate speech like there's way too much evidence that YT blatantly ignored.
I feel that Act man is a very smart in his methods such as the actual videos on QTV, but stuff that stresses him out/upsets him completely derail his normal handling and cause him to make rash and regrettable statements/decisions in the moment.
I’m honestly the same exact way, which makes this even sadder to me since I actually relate. He handled things so well, but now it tipped over and emotion is getting the better of him.
I think if you don't get upset that someone doxxed your family and started harassing them over an internet fight, you have something seriously wrong with you.
I feel bad for Act Man, he’s going through so much stress, he and his family have been doxxed, and still getting harassment on top of it. I don’t know why that Tommy guy had to be such an aggressive asshole toward Act Man and is trying to spin some narrative but it’s his own fault if he wants to risk his channel by uploading content from an unhinged banned creator. I’m happy he’s still speaking out and fighting back hoping to get re-monetized but he definitely should take a Twitter/internet break for his own well-being
@@Joao_66 well it's fair to say he's engaged in some form of doxxing if he got her personal information call her as well as actmans other families information
@@Joao_66 openly talking about finding his information and basically encouraging people to do so, and bragging about doxxing and threatening to do so to other people is pretty bad. I’d say it doxxing, especially calling and threatening his family. Plus Act Mans brother also got doxxed. Quantums discord has been brigading and doing terrible things pretty openly
@Fenrir sure but Willymac is not entitled to the Actman being nice to him & after the first 2 meetings where Willymac blew up at him for no reason I understand why he assumes Willymac & Tommy are acting in bad faith. Especially after they called him psychopath sjw trying to destroy other creators.
I hope that happens one day, I don't wanna see bowblax have to deal with some serious shit, but at the same time, "twitter vs bowblax" would be a funny as shit title
to avoid another blow out of drama, youtube took the blind folded shotgun approach to remedy the situation, the only problem was they gave up after one shot, and only hit acmin.
I love how everyone wants to snip and jump on Act Man for getting upset that after Quantum TV got away with doxing his family-and get upset UA-cam punished him for threatening to dox rather than punishing the guy who already doxed his mom. He is losing everything he has built on UA-cam and many of these psychos are trying to get under his skin…do you expect a human being to be perfect when we all have emotions? We all have emotions and during hard times someone can lose it when someone wrongs you. Act Man should really get off Twitter as it’s where psychos thrive and empathy hardly exists. The tweets are dumb but how is it when cause and effect situations happen like this it’s the effect that gets called out rather than the cause? Seriously I can’t imagine what Act Man is going through and the fact everybody is telling him to “calm down” when most aren’t even attempting to have empathy to put themselves in his mindset and the facts of all that has gone wrong. I get he made some irrational decisions based on emotions-but does maybe anyone want to share some empathy with the man who’s emotions are merely the effect rather than the cause of these chain of events?
@Fenrir Dude, don't even start, you're not in his situation. That's like telling a depressed person to stop being depressed, things are easier said than done, learn it.
Personally I just think Act Man should take his foot off the pedal for a little bit. Not give up obviously, but like papa gut said just take a break and take more consideration into these things. If I’m gonna be honest though, I didn’t believe act man was wrong at all for the jaystation calling his mom bit, just two scumbags conniving in an effort to make someone who’s already blatantly emotional even worse off. While I don’t defend what he said, I do agree (don’t ask how that works because I don’t know either), and the fact that barely anyone is going after the actual cause is sickening. Twitter does terrible things to a man.
Actman gets banned for a joke. then a dude breaks tos on UA-cam and reposts a video of basically the same type of joke from someone who is already banned and doesn't get any form of punishment and acts like actman isn't supposed to get upset about it?
Sad thing is that ActMan played right into their hands, I understand what he's been through is bullshit and completely unfair. But dude needs to chill a bit and keep his head on the "game".
tommy c and willy mac show are like those kids in class who refuse to read the textbook out of laziness and constantly ask the teachers doubts about what's in the book
I’m honestly shocked. How we went from banding together to say fuck UA-cam to now just pointing fingers at each other, taking the focus away from what’s really going on. The Act Man may not have handled the situation the greatest, but can you blame him when his family was threatened by some internet rando and literally had his livelihood stripped from him even though all he did was call out a PROVEN bigot for being well… a bigot. He’s done nothing wrong and yet he gets shit for speaking out? All of this starting from just joking about a garbage Elden Ring review. Sometimes, humans really frustrate me. Well, I guess let’s all celebrate the fact that UA-cam is now WILLINGLY platforming a piece of garbage, homophobic person… on pride month too of all months.
If you want to get tin hat crazy, youtube probaly won't do it until after june 19 is past so it could tell you that they rather not be called racest and will take the homophobic title instead.
People like feeling righteous support an underdog or victim. But they love to see a seemingly nice thing or person crucified as a hypocrite or villain. To Quote an underrated film. "Lock 30 People in a room for a day. Check on them. They might have picked a leader but they will absolutely pick someone to hate." Humanity would be great if it wasn't for all the damn people.
So Tommy C compares Act Man calling out ToS violations to knowingly falsely accusing someone of rape and to blatantly lying in a bid to save face originally but then to do it again to manufacture drama for a redemption arc. Totally the same thing. Well done Tommy. While I do think Tommy is being a nob, I agree that Act Man has been making increasingly bad choices the longer this drags out. I get it, he's pissed and I would be too but if he doesn't take a step back from posting OTT memes, he is going to end up being the one to kill what is left of his career by taking things too far. There's a fine line between love and hate and it looks like people are finding it hard to keep the love train running smoothly on the tracks.
I would think the same thing too, but then you get to the point where someone leaks your dms and then coordinates a video pointing and laughing at your mom getting doxxed. No one would be calm in that situation if I’m gonna be honest.
No, they're not, almost everyone is firmly on TheActMan's side, it's simply that people enabling bad people and companies with completely wrongheaded opinions and bad actions don't really care about other people or their welfare and don't want to be called out for it (as you allude to, rightfully, in your first paragraph), so try to make it seem like theirs is a widespread opinion. #JusticeForTheActMan
I wish the best for the actman, his a good person and is being put though the ringer. I hope he will be okay when all this is over and that justice is done.
As much as I wish him the best, I think Act Man just needs to temporarily step away from the internet entirely. Obviously his situation with UA-cam and Quantum needs to be handled. Properly and professionally. But he's already done everything he possibly could, and to no avail. The longer he stays around in the mind state he's in, his emotional outbursts will just turn a lot of heads. I don't blame him, but he needs to give himself a breather.
Yeah, I think it'd be best for him too. I understand wanting to stay in the loop with info on UA-cam, but he's almost losing his mind for it because of their inaction and because of the dumbasses who come out to harass him with willfully ignorant arguments. He needs the time to himself to cool off and get himself back in professional order, and Twitter is not at all the place for that.
It also doesn't help this happened right before he was going to take vacation from content creation. I sympathize with his attitude. He wants a yes or no from UA-cam so he can move forward. Those are always the worst moments of your life. Waiting for the bad news so you can just react to it but the irs, your boss, doctor, ect, just tells you to wait patiently while your life is collapsing.
@@justanormalaccountnothingt1571 "OK, I see you have 3 fingers missing but... Are you sure it was him? Is it impossible for it to be an action done by a ghost?"
WillyMac was right, technically what QTV did gathering information wasn't technically doxxing, it was more akin to stalking. And it is important to have that distinction, whether or not it occurs on his channel or on other social medias, and whether or not it slips through TOS at all. There are technicalities. Doesn't make what he does okay in any way, or minimizes it, and there was always the potential that he would use that information and pass it along, like the others. But there's no need to be so defensive about it. Do you not have any reading comprehension, or do you just automatically believe people disagree with you when they ask questions?
bro how did he overreact when his family got doxxed by a guy and then when he tried to call that guy out he got his entire channel demonetized. I would be pretty upset if my family was doxxed.
@Fenrir People arent like you were some people cant control there emotions better, cut some lask boozo, also the fact you keep commenting on threads in this vid were act man needs to " stop sperging out" it seems yYOU are the one that is sperging out imo.
The thing is he is right about what he said. Tommy C is annoying and isn't helping but you shouldn't be falling for the obvious bait to have him confirm and go all *THIS IS THE TRUE ACT MAN, HE IS A PHONEY.* If he was more calmer, he would of saw threw that bait.
I wanna take my spin on this one... "ACT man is being too emotional about this." I think thats stupid to say, The dude had someone doxxed him and his family and LITERALLY called his mother cause of his video. I can see how Act man is coming from this alittle. I feel honestly bad for him.
@@justanormalaccountnothingt1571 um, there have been ACTUAL audio evidence of him calling his mom. Why the fuck would bait him for that if he got other better plans to do that than doing something petty like that.
What happened, we were all in agreeance on what happened and how to handle it. We literally rallied together against youtube for things as simple as the rewind. But we can't come together as a community instead, we go out of our way to point the finger at which person is the big bad guy while the dude who´s 100% in the wrong is flexing his ego on how he for the life of him got away. I don't know what top-shelf boof Everybodys is on but please flush it down the toilet.
Because Tommy & Willymac didn't like that people where using the hashtag since this started & having seeking a way to make this the Actman's fault. They've been baiting him all week.
Dude is rattled. Understandably so. We can't expect him to make perfectly calculated moves when he clearly us frustrated with the whole world. Have you ever done all the right things? Done everything perfectly and still lost? That was about the second video calling out QTV everything after that is probably rage that it failed.
While some of what Actman tweeted was unacceptable there should be some leniency in how people view them, with all of what's happening anyone should be able to sympathize at least enough to be more forgiving. Hopefully things will end up better soon but UA-cam is truly a unpredictable beast.
Here's the thing: When they made their statement, they included 'creator safety' in their ecosystem they want to protect. Quantum literally doxxing, threatening and harassing Act Man and his family is okay. Act Man saying 'welp guess I can do it too since it's okay on this site now!' isn't 'unacceptable'. It's not doing any of you any favors in saying that it's unacceptable because you couldn't actually place it in your own words, and I guarantee you that you were defending h3h3's bomb joke a few weeks ago.
@@nachgeben I unironically can't tell what youre trying to say, it sounds like you're going back on what you said? Can you clarify cause idk it might be me but I'm not understanding what the message is
@@mindless_drift how do you not understand? He’s saying that UA-cam said they were basically screwing over the actman because he broke their TOS with a tweet, while fully allow Quantum to get away with ban evasion, doxxing, faking a profession, and wishing more people died in the PULSE NIGHT SHOOTING, and that’s not even all of it.
@@dogeboithedoomslayer chief I'm not defending quantum, the guy is a piece of sewer trash as far as I'm concerned. Also I wasn't sure if the comment was being sarcastic or not since I'm kind of dense. But I'm sticking with what I said, but I should clarify. Actman shouldn't have tweeted the 3rd tweet in the string of sarcastic tweets, the tweet was more directed at UA-cam with it's sarcasm so even though it wasn't a serious tweet UA-cam is a bit dense and took it as one. And when the actman tweeted about the repost of Jaystation's video(which is just scummy) it could be seen as him trying to get the person a strike, even though it was against tos(uploading banned persons content I think) the most that should happen is the video getting taken down or something. I don't think that Actman's intentions were to get the guy a strike but it could've been seen that way(which isn't a good thing, this was what I was peeved about in my comment If I remember correct). I was just suggesting in the last part that Actman should have leniency in the court of public opinion since the guy is going through a lot. Btw some tinfoil hat type theory is that some higher up at UA-cam is targeting actman, there's been a lot of people asking their UA-cam partners about it and they've said that they have no idea how this is happening, the whole thing is just suspicious.
Act man really does need to just leave the internet for awhile with a single final statement summing up what this was all about for him (I'm pretty sure it's clear but Twitter users are a a different breed) and all his arguments, and a final set of apologies for anything he felt he did wrong. Sometimes it's just not worth it, this discourse just gets dumber and dumber as the days go on cause its no longer even about the original arguments it's just arguing about meaningless things now because we've gotten to a state where we forgot what not arguing is like so we have to manufacture arguments to have.
I really do think his emotions are getting the better of him and should of got off when he said he was at the start. Could of dodged a lot of this shit
I think that’s what he was doing with the video games tweet. Though some people (like Nicholas) really don’t seem to be done stirring the pot just yet..
How are you getting the impression that several people losing their ability to earn an income for making videos on the truth of this situation with UA-cam is "meaningless" (unless you're watching drama/commentary channels?)? Three channels have currently lost their ability to earn a living from this: TheActMan, ReviewTechUSA, Camelot331 and many others have had their videos on this demonetized or copyright struck instantly, this going on for a week now and getting progressively worse as to what YT is doing to them. I guarantee that if it were *your* career and livelihood on the line, you'd be grateful for the support and not find continuing to expose these new actions "meaningless". This isn't shallow gossip, these are core societal questions about Big Tech, so if you and the others upvoting you can't find that important, that's on you.
This incident is good event for one reason. It’s showing how many “news channels” actually do they’re fucking research. I’ll stopping myself from watching any channels that have made they’re personalities known in this situation.
I think the context is very important because from what I am seeing people are trying to use these tweets to say actman is just like Qtv, the difference is for one:the actman is still falling the rules and legit is following the guidelines for strikes Two:he is in an extremely emotional state and people are joking about his family getting legit doxxed
Tommy posted a video claiming this proves TAM is trying to silence people & he was never doxxed or struck & has a dark secret about why UA-cam really banned him. He then ends by saying he's a psychopath & a danger to others if he's allowed on the platform. Yeah this very sad to see.
@@hellonokay1925 okay here is the clip & the full stream link. ua-cam.com/video/k5Vv2UbBrW0/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/znY4JagiMaM/v-deo.html There's some Qualifying clauses he tries to throw in there but his tone & questioning other creators for ever supporting give me the impression he was just covering his butt. I like Tommy, I like Actman, I want them to just stay away from each other at this point. Ps Tommy & Willymac playing footsie with the definition of doxing or what a strike is is in the other 2 actman streams & the Augie interview.
Everyone is so quick to give an opinion, the act-man did his personal best to make this platform a better place and youtube has actively resisted. He got doxxed but youtube doesn't care about most of their creators, as long as they don't lose any money over the matter.
Honestly, this whole thing is just a train wreck now, I think Act Man needs to step away from social media completely for a while, he's done pretty much all he can and constantly making tweets about it is just going to continue to mentally ruin him. I hate what's happening to the guy and I hope that Quantum gets punished, but he needs to try and take a break and people need to stop being so hard on him, I don't understand why some people have to be idiotic contrarians and go after Act Man instead of focusing on the bigger issue at hand.
Is it just me or is Tommyc just adding yourself as the one with the bruised ego when he gets offended and accuses the act man of having a bruised ego when he won't voice chat him.
im glad actman is taking a break and i hope he will continue to take a break over a couple weeks or a month, this is obviously affecting his mental health and i and many others don't want this affecting him any further.
Papa Gut saying Act Man is too emotional is down right a bad take. Imagine if you lost your job over something that somebody else screwed you over with (which is completely unjustified), and the company that hired you's incompetence.
I disagree. UA-cam probably wouldn't have remonitized ActMan either way, but after his meltdown on Twitter they will definitely never remonitize him. The more ActMan talks the harder it is to sympathize with him because he keeps digging himself deeper.
@@harrymason4300 it's not about UA-cam remonitizing him or not. It's about the whole situation being unfair to Act Man. Let's use another example, imagine if you get suspended from your school because some bully decided it would be a good idea to lie to the teachers that you did some horrific actions (which you obviously didn't do), not only did the school not do any investigation about it, but the school also suspended you for a long time. You can't put full blame on someone who got screwed over unfairly because of some corrupt company, it's okay to be angry and emotional at times like this.
@@sparkist95 ActMan isn't entirely innocent here. He joked about doxing UA-cam employees. He should have known he was burning a bridge with UA-cam when he sent those Tweets.
@@harrymason4300 then why isn't Ethan Klein demonetized? He joked about nuking a place. Edit: He only got suspended for A WEEK. While Act Man got his channel demonetized, tell me, how is that fair?
@@sparkist95 I agree Ethan Klein is way worse than ActMan and deserves to be banned from UA-cam, I'm just saying ActMan should have known those Tweets would get him in trouble. UA-cam is known for being a website you don't fuck with.
I think given the benefit of doubt to Actman, may I perhaps suggest that part of why he is behaving aggressively is because his main source of income has been taken away after his privacy/family life became targeted by a phone call? Just saying, if I lost my job after calling out my boss why they aren't doing anything about an employee harrowing my folks I would not be in the happiest mood myself.
I honestly fear for act man since youtube pulled the same lever for leafy and mumkey, while (in my opinion) leafy was harassing children mumkey was completely undeservingly banned and still banned to this day the loophole podcast channel for mumkey has also been a hell of demonitizations
Honestly I can both condemn Act Man's actions and completely sympathise with them as well. I've been in situations where I've puffed my chest out to act tough in response to life changing news for the worst and I haven't even experienced anything as soul draining as being cut from my only source of income without prior warning. IMO Act Man should've hard cut himself off from Twitter completely for a while.
@@Thatguylma Being better than Tommy is a low bar. His tweet at the end of the video after ActMan conceded and calmed down was literally throwing gas. And then he stepped away from the situation like he didn't just try to do that. It's a shit move to do
@@catgirl-jj8no I'd say he had every right to criticize him, Act Man's a public figure, he can be criticized. And quite frankly he actually made a good critique so it's justified
@@catgirl-jj8no listen I agree that act man is being shat on constantly for no reason and willy and Tommy love being nitpicky and stupid. However I still think to an extent we can criticize someone for doing something stupid. Plus Nicholas said that Act Man's a cool guy just that this was wrong and should be called out
The act man got mad and was baited into saying something stupid. If i was in his shoes, i would have done the same. And Tommy's joke, if it was a joke, would have been to soon, seeing as though Quantum did look up his moms phone to specifically harass him. Also, doxing or targeted harassment, either way he would be banned so does it matter.
There are many who do use the system to false flag people. I'd like to see UA-cam do something like this: Someone puts a take down request (or whatever the name is for it) for you using their content, you get a strike. But if you think it is fair use, and you counter it, they should remove the strike (leave the content down) and wait for the court counter claim. If the person does not submit the court counter claim, your video goes back up but in the meantime you are not punished with the strike and what it limits you doing. If the person does provide the court counter claim then reinstate the strike. I think this would stop a lot of people attempting to abuse the system just to strike channels down.
The Act man seems stress out. Too many people try to spin the narrative one way or another. In the wave of correcting those information he did make some bad decisions again. Hope he is alright.
YT in this situation seems more like Twitch where the employees literally arbitrarily decide whether they like you or not and treat you either good or just push you out of the platform. although in this situation they directly do not want to listen, they made a decision taking advantage of the fact that it could be misunderstood and they continued with that.
This is just me but I feel like a lot of the times things like this don't get fixed because there's always people who are and try to be contrarian to things. At first people were 100% on actmans side but now there are those who try to be on the other side like in this video. People then start to argue with each other on what's right and what's wrong and then lose sight on the main problem which is youtubes failure in protecting their communities by letting someone who's broken several tos free.
Nick flips all the time especially if he sees someone as an optics problem. My guess once the Actman took the bait Nick figured it's more trouble than it's worth dealing with him.
The issue is that act man is being too emotional (and justifiable so) and not thinking this entire situation through as much as he thinks he is. Actman needs to be reminded that he is not dealing with rational or stupid people, he is dealing with a platform and a community that live in an entire reality altogether where cognitive dissonance is an incomprehensible concept. UA-cam likely wants actman gone because the employees there are likely addicted to twitter and probably don't like him because he is a straight white male, even siding with a religious homophobe if it means "winning" (cause "winning" is all they care about) Actman's detractors are likely of a similar caliber doing everything they can to twist actmans words and actions in order to make him look worse, with the only difference being that those people likely live on twitter. Those people likely side with quantum on some level because of mental gymnastics, hypocrasy, and the classic self projection. You simply cannot win arguing with people who do not live in reality because they are nuts in the same way you cannot win an argument with an idiot as that is an exercise in futility. What Actman needs right now is to get of social media and get off youtube for a while and take a vacation. Cool down, and start looking into alternatives because he is likely not getting his monetization back (like starting a subscribe star or selling merch). If Actman continues to recklessly swing back as he is doing right now, he is only going to give his opposition the excuse to do further damage, because their end goal is to have his channel removed entirely. Just my opinion on the matter.
Very well articulated. I do think he needs to stop thinking in terms of getting people to agree with him on this. He made the hashtag got traction, he should give the evidence out to people who want it, & worry about perserveing yourself. I think one thing you hit on really well is that UA-camrs kind of embrace double think & will do anything to avoid cognitive dissonance. When this started I saw a lot of people accusing the Actman of being a woke sjw & then without skipping a beat the same people today are calling him a homophobe & a dangerous psychopath who must be canceled. The Actman needs to stop engaging in baiters & haters & worry about protecting himself & his channel.
Personally I see Act Man's actions about tommyc, while rash and kinda out there, somewhat justified. Having someone dox your family members is a serious deal, and then making a meme about it is such a low blow and should be called out upon. ToS is besides the point, this is just moral value right now. No one really had the right to blow up at Act Man for his actions when they do their own research and look at the situation properly.
I've said this before and I'll say it again, somebody really needs to write an article calling youtube out. We've seen it before, something scummy happens, youtube does either nothing or tries to hide it, article gets written about it, suddenly youtube does the thing they should've been doing way earlier whilst saying something like "after careful observation we deemed that blah blah blah" and then act like they did everything.
i understand where the act man is coming from. hes in a stressful situation and he took the bait someone threw out to him. in a situation people are quick to say "hes an adult he should have stayed calm". but being an adult doesn't mean you cant be emotional and get angry at others including "friends". at the end of the day, he understood that he wasnt thinking in the heat of the moment and apologized for it. he should definitely take a break from the internet. also, i think that "not if i have anything to say about it" quote he made about the re-uploaded content was a joke as he never did anything about it. unless he did do something about it then hes a hypocrite. if it was a joke, it was just a very bad one and made to the wrong person. he shouldn't have made a joke like that to some rando on the internet that hes not cool with.
@@blaneonthemoon2507 exactly. People are mistaking his "ego" with *frustration* that even when slapped in the face with evidence.. UA-cam and some dipshits just will not listen. I can only imagine the agitation on his end.
26:15 why didn't he share this last night?? Why only share it the day after?? Nicholas being untrustworthy in the dms and voice chats as usual 😂😂 act man should've learned from the John swan drama, not a single soul in the commentary community is with you, they will back stab you at any given moment for anything they want.
It was bugging the absolute shit outta me how in the livestream whats his face was spreading all these bs conspiracy theories before Act Man even joined the chat. And fucking KEEMSTAR was one of the most sane people in the stream! (Not counting Act and Muta of course)
Good coverage. Act Man shouldn't have responded the way he did but these guys have been baiting and trying to get a reaction out of him so they can get views. Also was shitty of Nicholas to share that DM when Act Man clearly thought there was some trust between them
The difference here is the act man is responding emotional and proving his point further in these rash tweets rather than Quantum deliberately doing fucked up things and getting away with it in my opinion. I personally feel like it was a little justified, but IDK honestly. I just want the act man's point to finally get across to stubborn people at UA-cam so we can end this apocalypse already. It is unacceptable to amount of time this drama has gone on with UA-cam. This situation should have been resolved and corrected on day one. The only reason the drama continues and everyone is getting involved and some people are trying to turn the narrative against act man is because UA-cam chooses to side with hate and refuse to quit being stubborn and do their fucking job. It's honestly disgusting in my opinion. While I don't condone some of the actions the act man has taken in this circumstance it feels completely justified at least in my opinion.
Exactly this right here. People really aren’t cool by trying to be contrarians. That would work in a talk about video games, but this is about a man’s job and 7 years of work getting fucked over because he tried to do the right thing and strip a copyright abuser from their power of abusing copyright.
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Ok lemme just say that UA-cam needs to get their sh*t together they’ve needed to for about 3-4 years and each 6 months they’ve been getting worse and worse sometimes they have fixed it but most times they’ve needed to and still need to. #justiceforactman
I still find it outrageous that UA-cam decided to let a person who abused the copyright system and violated their ToS get away with it….
He's blk. There's your answer.
As a black man, im tired of this Supremacy bs.
Is there any proof Quantam abused the copyright system? All I've seen is allegations.
@@harrymason4300 yes their are, stan.
Keep on defending your king.
@@neotoad456 I'm not a Quantum fan. I'd never even heard of him until ActMan (who I'm subscribed to) did his videos, I just want to know all the facts.
@@neotoad456 whoa, slow down there Buckeroo. This could be a geniune question cause some people are more involved with it than others. You shouldnt be so quick to put a line where one isnt needed.
I gotta say, Act Man being fucked over harder than anything I've seen is actually crazy. The fact he called out QTV, a guy who's openly a horrible horrible person, and is able to abuse the easily broken and insanely unfair Copyright system. UA-cam is straight up attacking him imo, I know Act isn't completely innocent here because even jokes about doxxing should be kept to yourself because doxxing is a serious issue, that said Act shouldn't have gotten demonotized tho, and could've been privately warned and or reminded about how to appropriately handle himself outside of UA-cam. That said, UA-cam ducking Optimus because of his open criticism towards them due to their completely bullshit call of taking away the ability to make money from someone who calls them out on their own bull. Tbh now I'm terrified for anyone who covers this situation, and or has ever critiqued UA-cam, whether on or off platform because it's obvious they wanna protect people who go out of their way to be horrid people. That's just not fair. If my comment dissapears or my acc is deleted, we all know YT is openly homophobic, allows ban evading, enjoys allowing people to dox others, and is completely and openly fine with QTV and others doing these same exact actions. Guess we'll find out, outside of that this was another banger video Bowblax.
It doesn't matter what his views are of gay people. He broke TOS and ban evaded. Need to be banned.
@@ifirespondiamstupid7750 exactly, UA-cam taking action over twitter stuff, a different social media aside from Yt (be it either The Act Man or QTV) is stupid...
Take action on what they do on YT, which QTV did and admitting it on his own channel.
@@schikey2076 Exactly. Quantum TV and the Actman should be judged on what they did on UA-cam. Too bad rabid fans can't see that.
Jokes that UA-cam took as legitimate threats. They are soft and only used them because they were salty from being called out on their heresy. The jokes were to show the hypocrisy of UA-cam where they will defend themselves but not someone on their site. It’s down right insane in my opinion
the act man may reveal his true interself, i mean he even did say that if youtube wont follow all of its tos like hate speech and sexual content. i hope the act man goes into a sexually frustrated bigoted rant copyright infringing doxxing swearing to murder him soon.
All I’ve got was that the ActMan is being severely punished over non-existent “sexual content and nudity” and a satirical tweet
UA-cam is being beyond unreasonable
Seriously, that shit is so ass backwards that you cannot blame anyone for believing that UA-cam is straight up targeting him.
It’s like beating up someone who robbed your house and held you at gunpoint, took that robber to the police department yourself, only for the police to arrest you because you assaulted the robber.
My god do you not have eyes have you not seen the vid ???
The sheer sexual power of Act Attorney got me acting unwisely
Imagine what would happen if children saw them
@@ignatoseg4664 he had us in the first half not gonna lie
Because they’ve been pointed out, UA-cam is majorly run by people who go nuts and try to silence anyone who tells them they messed up
If people are going to go on about how UA-cam is a job, then you're going to have to hold them to the same standards that'll get someone fired like in any other job. One reason to fire someone includes: talking about harassing and leaking the private information of your employers. It doesn't matter if you go "IT WAS JUST A PRANK BRO", once you step into that territory, most companies are handing you your pink slip and a trip out the door.
Hahaha I don’t agree with all of Papa Gut’s takes on this matter but he handled all that like a champ, especially that zing to Keem, bet he was even laughing about that lmao
that cheesy one liner was garbage lmao
Goddamn that come back was spicy.
Keemstar deserves it he is the original king of destroying people's lives.
smoking on that act pack🤣 what a bozo
@@JoeWithTheHoesBiden you have to keep in mind these are terminally online twitter users
to make the quantum situation worse, he has also gotten youtube to go strike reviewtechusa for being a quantum critic. quantum has officially got youtube to strike at not 1 but 2 of his critics. looks like youtube has made it clear, either side with quantum or they will protect him and crush his opposition
Not just those two either. Camelot331 who has covered this as well as other corporate 8bVs3 has the same situation as ReviewTechUSA (UA-cam email saying everything is demonetized and has to be held for manually review where they'll determine if he's able to get paid on it or not). Additionally, on ReviewTechUSA's stream a tr8ns creator and others had their videos on the subject demonetized. Others have said they were also. #JusticeForActMan
Many more then that hes been doing this for years hes a literal sicopath and a real homophobe as in he worse then just legeslation against it so well makeing veiled threts is way worse then siterical tweets of stuff that quantum had been doing for fucking years
How to win a Twitter argument 101:
1. Start a meaningless argument with a random person on Twitter
2. Go into their dms and continue to harass them as much as you can
3. Then finally, post your dms (but make sure it’s only the parts that make you look like a victim) so that everyone can see
It’s generally frustrating seeing how grown adults will do middle school level tactics just to look right. Not saying Act man is in the right, but kicking the man while he’s already down just for some clout doesn’t make you better.
It is particularly funny when you remember Tommy & Jaystation started this by claiming they're the only Adults here acting talking like Adults... yeah it's depressingly teenage girl bullying crap.
Actman still could have handled it better.
How would he be in the wrong
@@thatitalianlameguy2235 he’s not, or at least not fully. He could’ve acted more rationally instead of giving them the reaction they wanted.
@@SuSfather039 but can you expect him to do that inn that situation?
if calling out youtube on their bullshit is stupid, then taking said bullshit and accepting it is cowardice
I think they wanted to stop talking abt the situation and move on
I could not agree more.
ps. Love your username.
@@bobhamster3235 when this whole thing stops, it’s a sign that everyone has accepted or forgot about it. That gives UA-cam the green light that it’s over and then they’ll completely gloss over everything as if nothing ever happened and move on. Act man will stay suspended. Quantum will thrive. Everyone will continue to live in fear. The rules will mean nothing in the end. Better to keep any chance of correction then to just let UA-cam go back to ignoring everything again. I can see the point to not wanting to talk about it but to try and snip at him in the process and to make a video laughing at his doxxing situation says a ton about them.
@@bobhamster3235 He shouldn't be silence but he does need to calm the fuck down and play a different game with youtube who are being fucking stupid about this.
@@bobhamster3235 wtf, why would they do that? Do they seriously want to brush out this thing so mommy nun yotube gives them sub candies?
I don't agree with what Act Man did with the Tommy C situation, but I don't really blame him either. UA-cam is harshly punishing this guy for jokes he made about their lack of action with QuantumTV, so naturally he'd look at everyone else's shit and say "Why aren't they being treated the same way?" In my eyes, he's keeping the same energy he started with, and with that I can't find myself being mad.
If anything, I find it really strange how a lot of creators are trying to beat him down so much that he DOES snap this way. Like, Tommy's video was obviously bait to try and prove Act Man was "bad" or whatever. Act Man just wants everything to be fair game, and it makes sense considering everyone under the sun is getting away with this shit except for him.
That's what I think at least. I just feel bad for him, it's clearly taking a toll and Tommy and Willy aren't making it any better.
Now Nicholas too, if the end of the video is anything to go by. You can admit somebody went too far (I don’t really think so) but at the same time be just as critical of the causation. Clearly people don’t seem to like criticizing the cause and instead like pointing and laughing at the effect.
I agree, I think ActMan going at this with a if I have to fight to get the rules enforced mentality, he should take every action he can
He was a bit too emotional about it yes, but if he's trying to send a message of either all or nothing in terms of rules, I think it's fair game
Crab mentality at its finest.
Tommy, Willy, Nicolas and all those ankle-biting clout chasers are pathetic and have no idea how to look objectively at situations, because it doesn't behoove them to do so. Then they're shocked when they try to grandstand morals and people tell them to fuck off. Nicolas defended rapists and attacked Etika in his final days, just to get attention.
This entire story is going nowhere. Quantum getting away with shit, YT being silent, ActMan catching heat for just speaking his mind. No one is winning here
Everyone in this are kinda taking L's in some way. Its annoying when the problems aren't getting fixed.
@@pippo17173 truth. Brother
I hate people acting like The Actman isn't using Twitter the same way everybody else does but because he's in the scrutiny seat where pretending it's different.
Meanwhile Google is thrilled people are cannibalizing each other because then they don't have to deal with anything.
Well, except for Quantum TV of course…
@@danielcrawford4141 no matter how you look at it, he will be the king of L's
Act Man: *Makes a valid and based argument*
TommyC: *Leaks DM Conversations*
Meah. They are not that bad. I wouldn't think any conversation is really private when talking to anyone on the internet regardless of who they are or how trustworthy they may be.
TommyC not even days later: Collabs with Jaystation to laugh at act man’s mother getting doxxed just to get a rise out of him
There was nothing even leak-worthy in those DMs. Not sure what was the goal besides fanning the flames of drama.
@@Corvid- Tommy claims it proves he was right along & the Actman is a psychopath who will harm other creators if he gets his channel back.
anything TommyC says doesn't matter as long as he stays in cahoots with that piece of shit Jaystation
I feel like Willy Mac just sits around waiting for a reason to argue with someone even when he has no reason to lol.
he does a good job tho.
He’s barely charitable to Act Man ever. That’s why I sincerely doubt the whole “I’m just asking questions, bro” shit - it sounds like contrarianism
@@jumbokins9919 idk about the whole contrarianism, but it does just feel like he’s trying to get a rise of some sort
@@jumbokins9919 "I'm Just Asking Questions, Bro" is a tactic known as concern trolling
When you pretend to express concern while asking questions but instead use it to derail the discussion
the act man shouldn't have tweeted several of the things he did. that said...he is losing his livelyhood, over jokes. and then he sees others make jokes and nothing happens. from his POV I cannot imagine anything but infuriation, and he can't really do much about the situation because the only way to get a response from youtube, is twitter. it's not healthy for him, at least in my opinion, but people calling him unhinged and things like that are honestly being a bit shortsightened.
bro the reason he's being emotional isn't just because of the jokes, it because he called out a bigot on youtube with multiple pieces of evidence, and then got that same video taken down because youtube didn't like the fact he called them out for not enforcing their rules. He just got his entire job taken away for trying to do the right thing. I don't understand how people can even be against the act man in this situation, he was just trying to do the right thing and get a bigot removed from the platform for breaking multiple of youtube's rules. I guess everyone has to have an opinion that is unpopular to seem "different" even if that opinion makes no sense.
People cant say theactman was joking but Tommy C wasnt joking or is it joking only when it favors the person you like?
@@OverlyCriticalAnime context. For example a bunch of poorly planned satirical tweets vs a coordinated video featuring a terminated UA-camr with the idea of baiting another UA-camr by laughing at the fact said youtuber’s mother got doxxed
@@justanormalaccountnothingt1571 Does that make it less of a joke? Of course not. Context doesn't really come in play here and him calling his mom is not doxxing her. It's creepy as shit yes but not doxxing.
@@OverlyCriticalAnime It's not technically doxxing, but it is pretty clearly an implicit threat of doxxing. Why else would QTV call his (not public) mom otherwise? Did he think Act Man was an elementary schooler or something?
Honestly I'm surprised that a lot of people didn't talk or call out Tommy C for having an awful take, having too big an ego to change his stance, say to the Act Man's face that he didn't care about evidence and wasn't going to change his mind, and then baited act man by platforming jaystation about calling act man's mom. How is somebody like that ruining a news show?
I don't blame act man for getting angry with Tommy C for all the shit he pulled, and trying to strike Tommy C (even though he violated tos but whatever) was dumb, but I think its stupid that nearly everybody moved on from the original point of Quantum TV and are now not supporting act man
It's li'e nobody on Twitter cares about the situation and only want drama.
I understand where Act Man's coming from for being emotional about this. He just lost his job over trying to speak out about problems on the website. He should try to control his emotions and be more professional next time but I wouldn't rag on him being emotional about this since you really have to understand where he is coming from, I know I do because I lost my channel that I worked on for 7 years for a BS reason and I have no support to get it back. Just imagine having all your years of work being taken away from you unfairly.
So we shouldn't get rid of someone who openly doxxes, ban evades, makes actual homophobic tweets and videos, abuses the DMCA, & as much as I don't like this word because I don't agree with it but hate speech like there's way too much evidence that YT blatantly ignored.
Honestly, is it even worth it becoming a UA-camr knowing that your source of income could be taken away at any moment?
@@reaper8264 Oh I never said that actman was wrong??? I said that I understand why he is so emotional about this situation.
@@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778 who wouldn't be
@@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778 It's understandable why he is like this. It's not just cause of his emotion- it cause everyone here is at stake.
I feel that Act man is a very smart in his methods such as the actual videos on QTV, but stuff that stresses him out/upsets him completely derail his normal handling and cause him to make rash and regrettable statements/decisions in the moment.
I’m honestly the same exact way, which makes this even sadder to me since I actually relate. He handled things so well, but now it tipped over and emotion is getting the better of him.
I think if you don't get upset that someone doxxed your family and started harassing them over an internet fight, you have something seriously wrong with you.
Understandably, but yes, in the moment he needs to sleep on it
I feel bad for Act Man, he’s going through so much stress, he and his family have been doxxed, and still getting harassment on top of it. I don’t know why that Tommy guy had to be such an aggressive asshole toward Act Man and is trying to spin some narrative but it’s his own fault if he wants to risk his channel by uploading content from an unhinged banned creator.
I’m happy he’s still speaking out and fighting back hoping to get re-monetized but he definitely should take a Twitter/internet break for his own well-being
Didn't quantum just call his mom ? I'm pretty sure that's not doxxing
When Tommy gets a bad first impression he really runs with it.
@@Joao_66 well it's fair to say he's engaged in some form of doxxing if he got her personal information call her as well as actmans other families information
@@Joao_66 openly talking about finding his information and basically encouraging people to do so, and bragging about doxxing and threatening to do so to other people is pretty bad.
I’d say it doxxing, especially calling and threatening his family. Plus Act Mans brother also got doxxed. Quantums discord has been brigading and doing terrible things pretty openly
@Fenrir sure but Willymac is not entitled to the Actman being nice to him & after the first 2 meetings where Willymac blew up at him for no reason I understand why he assumes Willymac & Tommy are acting in bad faith.
Especially after they called him psychopath sjw trying to destroy other creators.
Please don't put jaystation in anything ever.
Just let him fade into obscurity like he deserves.
i like laughing at his stupidity tho
@@Bowblax2 hes not funny. Hes a peice lf shit.
imagine if bowblax gets into a controversy and makes twitter vs bowblax
I hope that happens one day, I don't wanna see bowblax have to deal with some serious shit, but at the same time, "twitter vs bowblax" would be a funny as shit title
Soon
"JungKookFan48 tweeted, "Bowblax is really getting ratioed. Serves him right LAUGHING MY ASS OFF.""
to avoid another blow out of drama, youtube took the blind folded shotgun approach to remedy the situation, the only problem was they gave up after one shot, and only hit acmin.
They hit RTU too. I don’t know if this “blind folded shotgun” is so “blind folded..”
@@justanormalaccountnothingt1571 I think it's more like 'Bias-guided Shotgun'.
@@ardantop132na6 that would be more fitting
I love how everyone wants to snip and jump on Act Man for getting upset that after Quantum TV got away with doxing his family-and get upset UA-cam punished him for threatening to dox rather than punishing the guy who already doxed his mom.
He is losing everything he has built on UA-cam and many of these psychos are trying to get under his skin…do you expect a human being to be perfect when we all have emotions?
We all have emotions and during hard times someone can lose it when someone wrongs you.
Act Man should really get off Twitter as it’s where psychos thrive and empathy hardly exists.
The tweets are dumb but how is it when cause and effect situations happen like this it’s the effect that gets called out rather than the cause?
Seriously I can’t imagine what Act Man is going through and the fact everybody is telling him to “calm down” when most aren’t even attempting to have empathy to put themselves in his mindset and the facts of all that has gone wrong.
I get he made some irrational decisions based on emotions-but does maybe anyone want to share some empathy with the man who’s emotions are merely the effect rather than the cause of these chain of events?
@Fenrir easy to say, not easy to follow.
@Fenrir Dude, don't even start, you're not in his situation. That's like telling a depressed person to stop being depressed, things are easier said than done, learn it.
@Fenrir Says the fucking child who has just dumbed down the situation.
@Fenrir “oh you have ADHD? Well just stop fidgeting.”
Personally I just think Act Man should take his foot off the pedal for a little bit. Not give up obviously, but like papa gut said just take a break and take more consideration into these things. If I’m gonna be honest though, I didn’t believe act man was wrong at all for the jaystation calling his mom bit, just two scumbags conniving in an effort to make someone who’s already blatantly emotional even worse off. While I don’t defend what he said, I do agree (don’t ask how that works because I don’t know either), and the fact that barely anyone is going after the actual cause is sickening. Twitter does terrible things to a man.
I just love how you express the tweets. One minute you're casually talking and the next, you're yelling. Love it
#JusticeForTheActMan
Actman gets banned for a joke. then a dude breaks tos on UA-cam and reposts a video of basically the same type of joke from someone who is already banned and doesn't get any form of punishment and acts like actman isn't supposed to get upset about it?
Tommy and Nick were clearly trying to start unnecessary drama and problems, and should be made fun of for how they acted
Grills are the best
What did Nick do?
Sad thing is that ActMan played right into their hands, I understand what he's been through is bullshit and completely unfair. But dude needs to chill a bit and keep his head on the "game".
@@Thatguylma pressed into actman and brought up years old drama to prove his point
@@nopatiencejoe6376 Tommy's hands
tommy c and willy mac show are like those kids in class who refuse to read the textbook out of laziness and constantly ask the teachers doubts about what's in the book
I’m honestly shocked. How we went from banding together to say fuck UA-cam to now just pointing fingers at each other, taking the focus away from what’s really going on.
The Act Man may not have handled the situation the greatest, but can you blame him when his family was threatened by some internet rando and literally had his livelihood stripped from him even though all he did was call out a PROVEN bigot for being well… a bigot. He’s done nothing wrong and yet he gets shit for speaking out? All of this starting from just joking about a garbage Elden Ring review.
Sometimes, humans really frustrate me. Well, I guess let’s all celebrate the fact that UA-cam is now WILLINGLY platforming a piece of garbage, homophobic person… on pride month too of all months.
if you want everybody deplatformed because you dig up old social media posts and call them a bigot your are the problem dont you get that
Facts
If we don’t focus on the main issue we will go nowhere with this
If you want to get tin hat crazy, youtube probaly won't do it until after june 19 is past so it could tell you that they rather not be called racest and will take the homophobic title instead.
People like feeling righteous support an underdog or victim.
But they love to see a seemingly nice thing or person crucified as a hypocrite or villain.
To Quote an underrated film.
"Lock 30 People in a room for a day. Check on them. They might have picked a leader but they will absolutely pick someone to hate."
Humanity would be great if it wasn't for all the damn people.
Apes, together… Strong!
So Tommy C compares Act Man calling out ToS violations to knowingly falsely accusing someone of rape and to blatantly lying in a bid to save face originally but then to do it again to manufacture drama for a redemption arc. Totally the same thing. Well done Tommy.
While I do think Tommy is being a nob, I agree that Act Man has been making increasingly bad choices the longer this drags out. I get it, he's pissed and I would be too but if he doesn't take a step back from posting OTT memes, he is going to end up being the one to kill what is left of his career by taking things too far. There's a fine line between love and hate and it looks like people are finding it hard to keep the love train running smoothly on the tracks.
I would think the same thing too, but then you get to the point where someone leaks your dms and then coordinates a video pointing and laughing at your mom getting doxxed. No one would be calm in that situation if I’m gonna be honest.
No, they're not, almost everyone is firmly on TheActMan's side, it's simply that people enabling bad people and companies with completely wrongheaded opinions and bad actions don't really care about other people or their welfare and don't want to be called out for it (as you allude to, rightfully, in your first paragraph), so try to make it seem like theirs is a widespread opinion. #JusticeForTheActMan
we need to strike youtube
tommy c > act man
@@henkdachief lmao bait
the fact that tommyc and nick are suddenly so ok with leaking dms when it suits them is super weird to me
I wish the best for the actman, his a good person and is being put though the ringer. I hope he will be okay when all this is over and that justice is done.
As much as I wish him the best, I think Act Man just needs to temporarily step away from the internet entirely. Obviously his situation with UA-cam and Quantum needs to be handled. Properly and professionally. But he's already done everything he possibly could, and to no avail. The longer he stays around in the mind state he's in, his emotional outbursts will just turn a lot of heads. I don't blame him, but he needs to give himself a breather.
Yup act man needs to shut up
Yeah, I think it'd be best for him too. I understand wanting to stay in the loop with info on UA-cam, but he's almost losing his mind for it because of their inaction and because of the dumbasses who come out to harass him with willfully ignorant arguments. He needs the time to himself to cool off and get himself back in professional order, and Twitter is not at all the place for that.
At this point things are in campaign mode. If he takes a break he risks losing the momentum of the situation
It also doesn't help this happened right before he was going to take vacation from content creation.
I sympathize with his attitude. He wants a yes or no from UA-cam so he can move forward. Those are always the worst moments of your life. Waiting for the bad news so you can just react to it but the irs, your boss, doctor, ect, just tells you to wait patiently while your life is collapsing.
It'll be good for his mental health as well
“Ok papa gut I’m tryna make an understanding video here. Why do you wanna be respectful and hold the juicy drama from us?”
Top kek bowblax
I'm sorry but that was straight up snakey 🐍 for Nicolas Deorieo to stoke the Flames after Augie called actman calmed the situation down
Nicolas just gives off that two faced vibe.
WillieMACShow is the kind of guy to see someone and commit murder and say 'we still need to get the facts straight, we don't know he did it.'
Even at 100% guilty you still need to look at the evidence they did it.
“Sure he might’ve been holding the knife, but I’m just asking the questions bro.”
@@justanormalaccountnothingt1571 "OK, I see you have 3 fingers missing but... Are you sure it was him? Is it impossible for it to be an action done by a ghost?"
WillyMac was right, technically what QTV did gathering information wasn't technically doxxing, it was more akin to stalking. And it is important to have that distinction, whether or not it occurs on his channel or on other social medias, and whether or not it slips through TOS at all. There are technicalities. Doesn't make what he does okay in any way, or minimizes it, and there was always the potential that he would use that information and pass it along, like the others. But there's no need to be so defensive about it.
Do you not have any reading comprehension, or do you just automatically believe people disagree with you when they ask questions?
@@justanormalaccountnothingt1571 Pulling a Tucker Carlson lmao "Can't I just ask questions?" (even if they're LEGITIMATELY stupid)
The Act Man overreacted but when it comes to family being affected by dumb internet shit. I can understand his position
Of course. Of course he was emotional of course he handled it by going at it over and over but we all *understand* why he did that
bro how did he overreact when his family got doxxed by a guy and then when he tried to call that guy out he got his entire channel demonetized. I would be pretty upset if my family was doxxed.
I only disagree because the guy doxxed his brother and mother. Then preceeded to call his mother with vague threats.
@Fenrir People arent like you were some people cant control there emotions better, cut some lask boozo, also the fact you keep commenting on threads in this vid were act man needs to " stop sperging out" it seems yYOU are the one that is sperging out imo.
yes because you are an unstable mess aswell doesnt make it less cringe
Oh no.
I just finished Nick's 2-hour stream last night. Everything was going so well. Goddamn it.
Nick's always been a little shifty.
...And Augie's laugh is annoying.
@@KingNexusMOCs Naah, it's hilarious.
The thing is he is right about what he said. Tommy C is annoying and isn't helping but you shouldn't be falling for the obvious bait to have him confirm and go all *THIS IS THE TRUE ACT MAN, HE IS A PHONEY.* If he was more calmer, he would of saw threw that bait.
@@KingNexusMOCs had nothing to do with Nick, all Nick did was say that Act man shouldn't have threatened strike on tommy
I wanna take my spin on this one... "ACT man is being too emotional about this." I think thats stupid to say, The dude had someone doxxed him and his family and LITERALLY called his mother cause of his video. I can see how Act man is coming from this alittle. I feel honestly bad for him.
Especially when you got a banned UA-camr trying to bait you by “calling your mother” and basically laughing at the fact that it happened.
@@justanormalaccountnothingt1571 um, there have been ACTUAL audio evidence of him calling his mom. Why the fuck would bait him for that if he got other better plans to do that than doing something petty like that.
@@sashawolfson3602 I was referring to act man in that, because Tommy had baited him with a “joke” video about his mother getting doxxed.
@@justanormalaccountnothingt1571 yeah, but that's a stupid joke. Joke or not, that's not what you should do.
Oh my god a legal adult LITERALLY made a phone call to another legal adult, how horrifying.
What happened, we were all in agreeance on what happened and how to handle it. We literally rallied together against youtube for things as simple as the rewind. But we can't come together as a community instead, we go out of our way to point the finger at which person is the big bad guy while the dude who´s 100% in the wrong is flexing his ego on how he for the life of him got away. I don't know what top-shelf boof Everybodys is on but please flush it down the toilet.
Because Tommy & Willymac didn't like that people where using the hashtag since this started & having seeking a way to make this the Actman's fault. They've been baiting him all week.
People just don’t like the fact that sometimes there’s realistically only one side I guess.
@@AspiringDevil willy not as much, Tommy definitely
@@Thatguylma true Willymac seems to have coolest down after talking to the Actman in DMs.
Dude is rattled. Understandably so. We can't expect him to make perfectly calculated moves when he clearly us frustrated with the whole world.
Have you ever done all the right things? Done everything perfectly and still lost? That was about the second video calling out QTV everything after that is probably rage that it failed.
I love how Mischief (Despite being the probably the youngest guy involved in the drama) seems to have the best takes
That's because he's still young and naive, so he still hasn't become disgruntled, he's still capable of being genuine, unlike Willy and Tommy.
While some of what Actman tweeted was unacceptable there should be some leniency in how people view them, with all of what's happening anyone should be able to sympathize at least enough to be more forgiving. Hopefully things will end up better soon but UA-cam is truly a unpredictable beast.
Here's the thing: When they made their statement, they included 'creator safety' in their ecosystem they want to protect.
Quantum literally doxxing, threatening and harassing Act Man and his family is okay.
Act Man saying 'welp guess I can do it too since it's okay on this site now!' isn't 'unacceptable'. It's not doing any of you any favors in saying that it's unacceptable because you couldn't actually place it in your own words, and I guarantee you that you were defending h3h3's bomb joke a few weeks ago.
@@nachgeben I unironically can't tell what youre trying to say, it sounds like you're going back on what you said?
Can you clarify cause idk it might be me but I'm not understanding what the message is
@@mindless_drift for real it was like he swapped identities half way into the post..
@@mindless_drift how do you not understand? He’s saying that UA-cam said they were basically screwing over the actman because he broke their TOS with a tweet, while fully allow Quantum to get away with ban evasion, doxxing, faking a profession, and wishing more people died in the PULSE NIGHT SHOOTING, and that’s not even all of it.
@@dogeboithedoomslayer chief I'm not defending quantum, the guy is a piece of sewer trash as far as I'm concerned. Also I wasn't sure if the comment was being sarcastic or not since I'm kind of dense. But I'm sticking with what I said, but I should clarify. Actman shouldn't have tweeted the 3rd tweet in the string of sarcastic tweets, the tweet was more directed at UA-cam with it's sarcasm so even though it wasn't a serious tweet UA-cam is a bit dense and took it as one. And when the actman tweeted about the repost of Jaystation's video(which is just scummy) it could be seen as him trying to get the person a strike, even though it was against tos(uploading banned persons content I think) the most that should happen is the video getting taken down or something. I don't think that Actman's intentions were to get the guy a strike but it could've been seen that way(which isn't a good thing, this was what I was peeved about in my comment If I remember correct). I was just suggesting in the last part that Actman should have leniency in the court of public opinion since the guy is going through a lot. Btw some tinfoil hat type theory is that some higher up at UA-cam is targeting actman, there's been a lot of people asking their UA-cam partners about it and they've said that they have no idea how this is happening, the whole thing is just suspicious.
Act man really does need to just leave the internet for awhile with a single final statement summing up what this was all about for him (I'm pretty sure it's clear but Twitter users are a a different breed) and all his arguments, and a final set of apologies for anything he felt he did wrong. Sometimes it's just not worth it, this discourse just gets dumber and dumber as the days go on cause its no longer even about the original arguments it's just arguing about meaningless things now because we've gotten to a state where we forgot what not arguing is like so we have to manufacture arguments to have.
Twitter users are retards
I really do think his emotions are getting the better of him and should of got off when he said he was at the start. Could of dodged a lot of this shit
I think that’s what he was doing with the video games tweet. Though some people (like Nicholas) really don’t seem to be done stirring the pot just yet..
How are you getting the impression that several people losing their ability to earn an income for making videos on the truth of this situation with UA-cam is "meaningless" (unless you're watching drama/commentary channels?)? Three channels have currently lost their ability to earn a living from this: TheActMan, ReviewTechUSA, Camelot331 and many others have had their videos on this demonetized or copyright struck instantly, this going on for a week now and getting progressively worse as to what YT is doing to them. I guarantee that if it were *your* career and livelihood on the line, you'd be grateful for the support and not find continuing to expose these new actions "meaningless". This isn't shallow gossip, these are core societal questions about Big Tech, so if you and the others upvoting you can't find that important, that's on you.
@OverlyCriticalAnime
And on top of it he's sick with covid. I know when my dad had it he was unreasonable to.
Lol when the guy who worked at twitch said “if someone takes anything from this, its the following:” I got an ad
This incident is good event for one reason. It’s showing how many “news channels” actually do they’re fucking research. I’ll stopping myself from watching any channels that have made they’re personalities known in this situation.
I think the context is very important because from what I am seeing people are trying to use these tweets to say actman is just like Qtv, the difference is for one:the actman is still falling the rules and legit is following the guidelines for strikes
Two:he is in an extremely emotional state and people are joking about his family getting legit doxxed
Everyone seems to have just missed the original point now. Which really sucks. Now it’s all about “who can make act man flip out?” At this point.
Tommy posted a video claiming this proves TAM is trying to silence people & he was never doxxed or struck & has a dark secret about why UA-cam really banned him.
He then ends by saying he's a psychopath & a danger to others if he's allowed on the platform.
Yeah this very sad to see.
@@AspiringDevil what the fuck, really? give links.
@@hellonokay1925 they're on Tommy's channel give me sec.
@@hellonokay1925 okay here is the clip & the full stream link.
ua-cam.com/video/k5Vv2UbBrW0/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/znY4JagiMaM/v-deo.html
There's some Qualifying clauses he tries to throw in there but his tone & questioning other creators for ever supporting give me the impression he was just covering his butt.
I like Tommy, I like Actman, I want them to just stay away from each other at this point.
Ps Tommy & Willymac playing footsie with the definition of doxing or what a strike is is in the other 2 actman streams & the Augie interview.
All this really could've been prevented if UA-cam simply booted Quantum off the platform like they did with his top simp JayStation.
New Jaystation Vid: Finding Act Man’s address at 3AM and fighting him!!!! (Gone sexual)
Just put that at 3am and you have a accurate jaystation vid
@@kojicna3720 done
@@SFC_on_Insta 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Still waiting patiently for part 2 for Nerd Cities JayStation Documentary definitely looking forward to it when it releases.
Honestly, I'm not surprised in the least that Jay Station would simp for Quantum. Garbage loves company.
If you can punch a king and come out on top that’s a definite win in my book.
Everyone is so quick to give an opinion, the act-man did his personal best to make this platform a better place and youtube has actively resisted. He got doxxed but youtube doesn't care about most of their creators, as long as they don't lose any money over the matter.
Honestly, this whole thing is just a train wreck now, I think Act Man needs to step away from social media completely for a while, he's done pretty much all he can and constantly making tweets about it is just going to continue to mentally ruin him. I hate what's happening to the guy and I hope that Quantum gets punished, but he needs to try and take a break and people need to stop being so hard on him, I don't understand why some people have to be idiotic contrarians and go after Act Man instead of focusing on the bigger issue at hand.
Brownie points. Everyone’s gotta get em.
@@justanormalaccountnothingt1571 A sad truth
Quantum and EDP are the black sheep of UA-cam
oh god i can see something to be misinterpreted
literally lmao
@@denmarc6938 🤨
I mean, they are literally black so... technically correct lol
You may wanna reword that.
Is it just me or is Tommyc just adding yourself as the one with the bruised ego when he gets offended and accuses the act man of having a bruised ego when he won't voice chat him.
Yeah that's what's he's doing, Tommy has a habit of opening his mouth on something he knows nothing about
im glad actman is taking a break and i hope he will continue to take a break over a couple weeks or a month, this is obviously affecting his mental health and i and many others don't want this affecting him any further.
Papa Gut saying Act Man is too emotional is down right a bad take. Imagine if you lost your job over something that somebody else screwed you over with (which is completely unjustified), and the company that hired you's incompetence.
I disagree. UA-cam probably wouldn't have remonitized ActMan either way, but after his meltdown on Twitter they will definitely never remonitize him. The more ActMan talks the harder it is to sympathize with him because he keeps digging himself deeper.
@@harrymason4300 it's not about UA-cam remonitizing him or not. It's about the whole situation being unfair to Act Man.
Let's use another example, imagine if you get suspended from your school because some bully decided it would be a good idea to lie to the teachers that you did some horrific actions (which you obviously didn't do), not only did the school not do any investigation about it, but the school also suspended you for a long time. You can't put full blame on someone who got screwed over unfairly because of some corrupt company, it's okay to be angry and emotional at times like this.
@@sparkist95 ActMan isn't entirely innocent here. He joked about doxing UA-cam employees. He should have known he was burning a bridge with UA-cam when he sent those Tweets.
@@harrymason4300 then why isn't Ethan Klein demonetized? He joked about nuking a place.
Edit: He only got suspended for A WEEK. While Act Man got his channel demonetized, tell me, how is that fair?
@@sparkist95 I agree Ethan Klein is way worse than ActMan and deserves to be banned from UA-cam, I'm just saying ActMan should have known those Tweets would get him in trouble. UA-cam is known for being a website you don't fuck with.
I think given the benefit of doubt to Actman, may I perhaps suggest that part of why he is behaving aggressively is because his main source of income has been taken away after his privacy/family life became targeted by a phone call? Just saying, if I lost my job after calling out my boss why they aren't doing anything about an employee harrowing my folks I would not be in the happiest mood myself.
And that Willymac & Tommy have been calling him a liar & baiting him for a week now.
I get why he's frustrated.
I honestly fear for act man since youtube pulled the same lever for leafy and mumkey, while (in my opinion) leafy was harassing children mumkey was completely undeservingly banned and still banned to this day the loophole podcast channel for mumkey has also been a hell of demonitizations
Honestly I can both condemn Act Man's actions and completely sympathise with them as well. I've been in situations where I've puffed my chest out to act tough in response to life changing news for the worst and I haven't even experienced anything as soul draining as being cut from my only source of income without prior warning. IMO Act Man should've hard cut himself off from Twitter completely for a while.
corruption deserves to be called out. Hardly anyone does it so I say let him be tbh
@@Ele_Underscore I don't disagree but he just didn't cover his ass legally on the initial joke.
I swear act man is living a villain back story right now... guy is going crazy because justice isnt served
As far as I'm concerned, he's rightfully angry towards not just quantum and UA-cam, but also Tommy and Willy.
This is getting a bit out of hand I feel like.
Oh shit someone who knows Bird Law besides Charlie
Nicolas throwing gas on the nearly out fire before tweeting "I'm stepping away." For fucks sake man
Snakes. Lash out when least expected then try to run away.
Eh, I think Nick was being the most reasonable critique compared to Tommy and willy. I actually agree with Nick
@@Thatguylma Being better than Tommy is a low bar. His tweet at the end of the video after ActMan conceded and calmed down was literally throwing gas. And then he stepped away from the situation like he didn't just try to do that. It's a shit move to do
@@catgirl-jj8no I'd say he had every right to criticize him, Act Man's a public figure, he can be criticized. And quite frankly he actually made a good critique so it's justified
@@catgirl-jj8no listen I agree that act man is being shat on constantly for no reason and willy and Tommy love being nitpicky and stupid. However I still think to an extent we can criticize someone for doing something stupid. Plus Nicholas said that Act Man's a cool guy just that this was wrong and should be called out
Papa Gut a savage for that keemstar shit
He doesn't got the alt-right backing i mean uhh "supporters"
I don’t see the problem with act man saying tommy C should be striked
I hope the act man soon gets justice and get his channel back
The Act Man is 100% in the right and that’s it 🤷♂️
“Twitter, the only place where well articulated sentences still get misinterpreted.”
-read as misrepresented.
That’s hilarious
Thank God act man got his monetization back
The act man got mad and was baited into saying something stupid. If i was in his shoes, i would have done the same. And Tommy's joke, if it was a joke, would have been to soon, seeing as though Quantum did look up his moms phone to specifically harass him. Also, doxing or targeted harassment, either way he would be banned so does it matter.
Anyone would. I’d punch someone’s teeth in if they joked about my mom, especially knowing damn well she got doxxed after the fact.
Didn't tommyc wish death upon a kid? Or is that wrong? I heard ALOT of bad things about that dude.
There are many who do use the system to false flag people. I'd like to see UA-cam do something like this: Someone puts a take down request (or whatever the name is for it) for you using their content, you get a strike. But if you think it is fair use, and you counter it, they should remove the strike (leave the content down) and wait for the court counter claim. If the person does not submit the court counter claim, your video goes back up but in the meantime you are not punished with the strike and what it limits you doing. If the person does provide the court counter claim then reinstate the strike. I think this would stop a lot of people attempting to abuse the system just to strike channels down.
I got blocked by Jay after saying he lived rent free act man's head. Lmaooo
"He's getting to emotional" "He's an adult"
Even though we all know they'd lose their shit too if something like this happened to them
I think that when someone and his amily getting doxxed, being emotional is an healthy response....
The Act man seems stress out. Too many people try to spin the narrative one way or another. In the wave of correcting those information he did make some bad decisions again. Hope he is alright.
Stress can truly make a man or woman go towards a breaking point.
Boy. The internet gets dumber and dumber every day. Despite clear evidence...
YT in this situation seems more like Twitch where the employees literally arbitrarily decide whether they like you or not and treat you either good or just push you out of the platform.
although in this situation they directly do not want to listen, they made a decision taking advantage of the fact that it could be misunderstood and they continued with that.
This is just me but I feel like a lot of the times things like this don't get fixed because there's always people who are and try to be contrarian to things.
At first people were 100% on actmans side but now there are those who try to be on the other side like in this video. People then start to argue with each other on what's right and what's wrong and then lose sight on the main problem which is youtubes failure in protecting their communities by letting someone who's broken several tos free.
i like how over the course of this video nick is all "i like this guy he's alright" to "ok that's it i'm done liking him"
To sum it up: 🐍
Nick flips all the time especially if he sees someone as an optics problem.
My guess once the Actman took the bait Nick figured it's more trouble than it's worth dealing with him.
He literally said he thinks the act man is cool, just that he was wrong in this situation
The issue is that act man is being too emotional (and justifiable so) and not thinking this entire situation through as much as he thinks he is.
Actman needs to be reminded that he is not dealing with rational or stupid people, he is dealing with a platform and a community that live in an entire reality altogether where cognitive dissonance is an incomprehensible concept.
UA-cam likely wants actman gone because the employees there are likely addicted to twitter and probably don't like him because he is a straight white male, even siding with a religious homophobe if it means "winning" (cause "winning" is all they care about)
Actman's detractors are likely of a similar caliber doing everything they can to twist actmans words and actions in order to make him look worse, with the only difference being that those people likely live on twitter. Those people likely side with quantum on some level because of mental gymnastics, hypocrasy, and the classic self projection.
You simply cannot win arguing with people who do not live in reality because they are nuts in the same way you cannot win an argument with an idiot as that is an exercise in futility.
What Actman needs right now is to get of social media and get off youtube for a while and take a vacation. Cool down, and start looking into alternatives because he is likely not getting his monetization back (like starting a subscribe star or selling merch).
If Actman continues to recklessly swing back as he is doing right now, he is only going to give his opposition the excuse to do further damage, because their end goal is to have his channel removed entirely. Just my opinion on the matter.
that doesnt make any sense what so ever.
so true, so true
Very well articulated. I do think he needs to stop thinking in terms of getting people to agree with him on this. He made the hashtag got traction, he should give the evidence out to people who want it, & worry about perserveing yourself.
I think one thing you hit on really well is that UA-camrs kind of embrace double think & will do anything to avoid cognitive dissonance. When this started I saw a lot of people accusing the Actman of being a woke sjw & then without skipping a beat the same people today are calling him a homophobe & a dangerous psychopath who must be canceled.
The Actman needs to stop engaging in baiters & haters & worry about protecting himself & his channel.
Side with the black regardless of him bad behavior. Turn against the white victim.
We really need a constant chain of "stay focused"
Mad respect to all of the UA-camrs out there who are risking their channels to repost Act Man's banned video.
Personally I see Act Man's actions about tommyc, while rash and kinda out there, somewhat justified.
Having someone dox your family members is a serious deal, and then making a meme about it is such a low blow and should be called out upon. ToS is besides the point, this is just moral value right now. No one really had the right to blow up at Act Man for his actions when they do their own research and look at the situation properly.
Quantum tv reminds me of that one girl that would watch anime without any input and would copyright strike anyone who would expose her
Nick really took a day to act like a snake on him LMAO
That’s what I’m saying
he's trying to be "honest"
You know shits gone down when everyone in the commentary are not attacking eachother for once in their lives
Justice for act man
I've said this before and I'll say it again, somebody really needs to write an article calling youtube out.
We've seen it before, something scummy happens, youtube does either nothing or tries to hide it, article gets written about it, suddenly youtube does the thing they should've been doing way earlier whilst saying something like "after careful observation we deemed that blah blah blah" and then act like they did everything.
Honestly With this information Tommy C kinda does look like he was baiting Act man to do something stupid.🤔🐱
of course
As the World Turns...
Soap opera in real life...
What a twisted web we weave...🙄
i understand where the act man is coming from. hes in a stressful situation and he took the bait someone threw out to him. in a situation people are quick to say "hes an adult he should have stayed calm". but being an adult doesn't mean you cant be emotional and get angry at others including "friends". at the end of the day, he understood that he wasnt thinking in the heat of the moment and apologized for it. he should definitely take a break from the internet.
also, i think that "not if i have anything to say about it" quote he made about the re-uploaded content was a joke as he never did anything about it. unless he did do something about it then hes a hypocrite. if it was a joke, it was just a very bad one and made to the wrong person. he shouldn't have made a joke like that to some rando on the internet that hes not cool with.
also, i dont think he has an "ego". he just wants people to actually look at the facts laid out for them and do the bare minimum research needed.
@@blaneonthemoon2507 exactly. People are mistaking his "ego" with *frustration* that even when slapped in the face with evidence.. UA-cam and some dipshits just will not listen. I can only imagine the agitation on his end.
Twitter is the ultimate cesspool.
26:15 why didn't he share this last night?? Why only share it the day after?? Nicholas being untrustworthy in the dms and voice chats as usual 😂😂 act man should've learned from the John swan drama, not a single soul in the commentary community is with you, they will back stab you at any given moment for anything they want.
Jaystation still getting his name wrong is hilarious
I think act man needs to calm down for like a week or 2 and rethink.
his rent's due
I just feel bad for Act Man now
It was bugging the absolute shit outta me how in the livestream whats his face was spreading all these bs conspiracy theories before Act Man even joined the chat. And fucking KEEMSTAR was one of the most sane people in the stream! (Not counting Act and Muta of course)
You know u fucked up when the quartering has a good take on ur misdeeds
Yooo Bowblax love the videos since 2019!
ActMan was so sure he was going to come out on top well....doesn't look like it 😂
Good coverage. Act Man shouldn't have responded the way he did but these guys have been baiting and trying to get a reaction out of him so they can get views. Also was shitty of Nicholas to share that DM when Act Man clearly thought there was some trust between them
Damn optimus doesn’t give a single fuck 😂 love that man
Speaking of
Where is so far not once did we saw his point of view
Everything is so one side it
And also where all the other victims of quantum
The difference here is the act man is responding emotional and proving his point further in these rash tweets rather than Quantum deliberately doing fucked up things and getting away with it in my opinion. I personally feel like it was a little justified, but IDK honestly. I just want the act man's point to finally get across to stubborn people at UA-cam so we can end this apocalypse already. It is unacceptable to amount of time this drama has gone on with UA-cam. This situation should have been resolved and corrected on day one. The only reason the drama continues and everyone is getting involved and some people are trying to turn the narrative against act man is because UA-cam chooses to side with hate and refuse to quit being stubborn and do their fucking job. It's honestly disgusting in my opinion. While I don't condone some of the actions the act man has taken in this circumstance it feels completely justified at least in my opinion.
an actual honest take?!?!
Exactly this right here. People really aren’t cool by trying to be contrarians. That would work in a talk about video games, but this is about a man’s job and 7 years of work getting fucked over because he tried to do the right thing and strip a copyright abuser from their power of abusing copyright.
I hate this "I don't condone what act man did"
The fuck did he do? Murder orphans?