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I feel like sometime in the near future we'll start seeing headphones with "Power efficient / Low power usage" as marketed features 😂
So If I buy these headphones and GSC GX3 300-watt amplifier is that all I need? and connect the amp to my LG CX, do I really need to buy a DAC? I can't afford a DAC
i know it is kinda off topic but do anyone know of a good website to watch newly released tv shows online?
If you get a chance to listen to the RAALs Z I'd love to see your review. I heard a pair recently and was blown away
Zeos, please read my comments below. You owe these another review once you bypass the converter box.
"There is no sound signature, it's just sound."
Thank you Zeos, very cool.
My wedding vows were the same as a headphone on your desk: "To death us part ... or until I find someone better" Still together 16 years later, in case you're asking.
You need to have found someone with a special kind of humor to pull that off
What kind of headphones did you marry?
@@dragons_advocate Oh, yes. She needed a very special sense of humor to marry me. As my brother said at my wedding, not only did I find a good partner, I may have found my match.
@@mapleaf816 - My wife is German so I would say the DT880 as most people wouldn't have the power to drive her.....
@@gaphs879 Hence my need for a wife with a special sense of humor.
Absolutely love my GL2000s. And I have stated categorically that they are the last headphones I would buy, except perhaps a Stax set-up. That was of course until I saw this review.
I did you dirty.
We live in a similar world Dave...
I also love the GL2000s! People should really give them the time to burn in before they judge!
Is it really that good? Better than Focal Clear? And HifiMan Arya? LCD-XC?
@@Viettzz If you are asking about the GL2000s, I would say that ever since pairing them with the XDuoo MT604 (they are power-hungry beasts and only perform correctly when given 2watts or more), I will not be looking to buy another set of home headphones (I have just purchased the Harmonicdyne Zeus for when I'm out and about). I have been in love and awe of the Stax sound for 40years and will eventually buy a pair. But following the Zeos and BGGA reviews of the GL1200s, I may just have to take a chance on them, because of the difference they bring to the sound presentation, in the same manner Stax do. I'm sure Focals, Abyss, and HiFi Man are all superb-sounding cans and are well worth the investment if that sound is your thing, but for me, for now, tubed GL2Ks are just peachy. And when I can afford it, I will first buy a Stax set up and then the GL1200s.
Have only watched 7 seconds. I hear Bebop OST, I know this is going to be good.
8:24 "we need to get to sound. Immediately"
I love you
"We need to get to the sound". Where am I and who am I watching?
In this episode, Zeos becomes an audiophile. 😂
lmao
That Amber Rubarth album was recorded on a dummy head binaurial microphone (on Chesky records) which is why it sounds so good.
The Macy Gray album 'Stripped' is another Chesky one and also sounds soooo good!
Someone new to the channel: “Z reviews... what kind of reviewer is is he? Is he obsessed with the technical aspects of Audio?”
Me: “ well... he once described a headphone as having sex with a three headed alien...so yeah.” 👽👽👽
The time he compared headphones pads as, "Two Michelin men fucking your ears..."
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I remember that! LOL! 😂
Holy shit was that rhe cd900st?@@williamcatalano1762
Ok so I ordered the GL1200s they are good. But the silver ribbons they sent me make static noises. It appears linsoul and goldplanar are about to screw me on the replacements. They are already trying to make an excuse that I didn't notify them fast enough, but I did when I first got them with no response and I just forgot until recently. Been about 3 months. They want me to send them the actual headphones so they can "repair" it. But the headphones are not the problem. The ribbons are, the gold ones work perfect. This is them trying to make it inconvenient for me to continue. Its very shady and manipulative business practice if there is no incompetence involved on the part of customer service.
Z, I bought GL2000s (double magnet) a couple of months ago and if you want to, ask me anything! Happy to help gather whatever data you're gathering
Do you like them?
@@justina9914 I loves em GL2000 see my review
@@JMAudioEditions glad to hear. But I think I will purchase a grado first
Have u compared them to any similarly priced headphone?
What's your favorite cereal?
Finally a worthy upgrade to KPH30i.
YOU ARE SO GOOD AT REVIEWING AND EXPLAINING you deserve more subs and likes
Z thank you for you honesty, I bought the HD650’s and HD660s because of you recommending them. And I have made a lot of money using them, because I am a mixing and mastering engineer and those bad boys kill every time. 👌🏾
Do you think the Sennheisers are better than say, AKG studios? I was just curious. I mean for mixing and mastering only.
@@thiscorrosion900 Heck yeah I actually have the AKG Studio headphones and they are not even on the same level as the 650/660’s. Not even close. I also use the Neve RNHP Headphone Amp, and it’s a match made in Heaven 👌🏾
@@ThatDarnGenius Oh my Lord! That's insane to hear. I really am shocked that AKG can't get up to the Sennheisers level, that's very disappointing to hear, honestly. I'm glad now I didn't buy a pair of those AKG Quincy Jones reference phones. Maybe those are good for sheer listening, I'm not sure. Sennheisers for the win!
I have the Sennheiser Urbanite XLs and I love those damned cans! For sheer fun.
I would think/hope anything Neve produces would be good. I also own the Fostex RP40 closeds and they are good monitors, but I doubt they're as good as the Sennheisers you mention.
@@ThatDarnGenius p.s. just read up on the Neve RNHP head amp, my goodness that sounds like a phenomenal amp. It's $500 flat US, and I'm sure, worth every single penny. Also it looks set up as simple as it can possibly be!
It Beams the studio strait into your brain and blows up your synapse, But does it play Pink Floyd? Yes, yes it does!
7:20 the chinese words loosely translates to:
Red text: * Pay special attention to this shit
buncha text beside the arrows: when replacing the diaphragm, please pinch the two sides indicated by the arrows, gently pull out(when removing) or push in(when installing new piece) the diaphragm.
Last buncha text: don't f*ckin touch the parts within the blue rectangle. It is easy to cause deformation that is not covered by warranty.
Btw that is alot of connectors and solder joints in the signal path from amp to headphone.
Did they actually swear or just for the luls?
@@Terra101 luls.
"My music is not worthy."
OMFG zeos is the last guy on earth who would say that. He literally said always get good enough music first.
The GL1200's are easily my favourite headphones. I still worship them after a year. Magic
Which ribbon are you using? Did it take some burn-in time to get the best sound out of them??
the original ribbon. I listen to them every few days. magical. no burn in at all. just instant glory. I am using a very good Quad power amp and that certainly helps. always amazed these are not talked about more often. they are still my favourites and I have plenty to choose from...happy listening@@gnewt75
@@bongofury3176can you compare it to any big planar like he1000/Arya? I'm considering it over he1000 stealth
SHEESH
haven't been this quick since last night :)
Oof
The GL2000 fiasco is a bummer. I have a set and was quite unimpressed with their stock tuning, but I can't really say if that's just down to taste or if I got a "bad set." That being said they took to EQ better than any headphone I have ever owned and after much tweaking they are now what I would consider endgame level so I'm not going to complain about how they sounded out of the box.
I'm super curious about these but not enough to spend the money required for their setup. I think I'm out of the game until new tech like this becomes more common and doesn't need insane shit to drive it.
I would buy them , but the first thing that stops me is that we cannot find even spare pads for GL 2000 yet.... What if that box needs replacement ? What if i need those velcro pads, because i like to change pads , after they look used ? Linsoul should help us with this ... just saying
This seems like a cool way to try out different power amps without the coloration of speakers.
I remember watching the GL2000 vid, then seeing DMS's vid. He explained that they sound compressed. When you described the room "breathing" im fairly confident that's compression, this would also explain the amount of "detail" he hears in the smaller sounds. Maybe Zeos likes compression, that's fine. HOWEVER it is NOT normally a good trait.
Breathing/pumping happens when attack and release are not set properly on a compressor. That simply cannot happen with acoustic “compression”. It’s just a matter of quiet sounds being louder and vice versa, no time based trickery happens.
@@TheGrelots I just quoted what he said, he also mentioned a deeper presence (I chose a bad quote keeping in mind what you said). I think "breathing" was used more abstractly for larger presence. Later in the vid he mentions vinyl records being a problem too since the smaller imperfections would stand out too much, like those things would be elevated also making me think some kind of compression occurring through the headphones. I don't have them and don't know the most about this stuff but I wouldn't be shocked if Zeos has a preference for compression knowing what DMS explained about the GL2000s. There's nothing wrong with that, he should enjoy those headphones, however I think taking his opinion with a pitch of sault isn't the worst idea on this one knowing about the GL2000s.
reviews by DMS and Zeos r different like night and day
@@cybergod77 for sure, it's good to have differing options around
out of all the videos on gl2000 ( like 8), DMS and guy from headphone show are the only ones who did not like them. its a conspiracy.... lol...
would be curious how well these would work w/ a good, neutral Class-D amp based on Purifi or ncore modules. I've got a tiny ncore amp sitting here that's around the same size as my RME DAC and it'd fit into my office setup pretty well.
Saying 4/5 customers of the gl2000 are very satisfied doesn't say very much when the m50x still has 4.5 stars on amazon with over 25000 reviews. Same goes for most beats products. If you are not truly invested into this hobby, you're unlikely to shit on a product you bought with your own money.
The google translate app on your phone can translate those Chinese docs by just aiming the camera at them. It’s fucking magic and made my travels through Japan effortless.
Technology is so amazing
What exactly are you cooking with Gold Planar about the GL2000? You've mentioned a few times you're "working on it"... Very curious...
Guessing just trying to get feedback from owners on build quality and opinions on sound. A lot of people have been having issues with the 2000's... Tons of them for sale on aftermarket
@@buster7618 I just ordered a second pair- first pair I love, my thought is some manufactured copies may suck... Z broke GL2000 Quality production is my guess... www.head-fi.org/showcase/gold-planar-gl2000-open-back.24993/
@@JMAudioEditions I really wanted to get them, but figured I'd wait until some of the hype cooled off and get a feel for QC because there were issues from the get go
Trying to see if there is a consensus on the QC.. Goldplanar refuses to admit anything changed from pair to pair.
@@ZReviews I can only go by my pair. And they are awesome. Anyone who has tried them has called me bad names because once they have heard my GL2Ks their own headphones sound crap.
Just listened to that album... Reminds me of my high school jazz band days when we went to some well known guy's house with a studio set up in the living room.
The problem with ChiFi is not the sound quality as it seems obvious that they copied
RAAL. But rather 2 years from now, you cannot find the manufacturer when you google it.
Warranty is meaningless, if it was $300 I would try them right away, but at $1400 I am not
willing to take that risk.
Have you manage to listen to it? If not you should. It cost only $1100.00 direct from Taobao
Listen to Z. Z is the end of the alphabets and it's the last review you should listen to. I took a step of faith and bought this set. Noooooooo regret. Couldn't find any fault to the sound quality. It gets even better after burn-in. Tried Hedd, the GL850, tried the HD800s, ATH1000, the ZMFs and still feel something is missing... Until GL1200... Thank you Z.
yeah man - 7 months in and still blowing me away every time...
Got a few questions for you: Let me start by saying that I design ribbon headphones as a hobby.
I've tried the RAAL, and left unimpressed, partially because in their load box somewhere, they essentially have a low pass filter.
They have a low pass filter because they need to prevent too extreme excursion from the ribbon, as they use a folded ribbon as their drivers. Too much ribbon excursion, common in extreme bass heavy songs, results in the de-corrugation and tensioning of a corrugated/folded ribbon like the RAAL uses.
And from what I gather, the Goldplanar also uses a folded ribbon. If that's the case, you can see this by looking at the ribbon itself, it will look zig zaggy.
One question I have is: does the goldplanar have a bass filter too? Or does it use some other method to prevent de-tensioning of their ribbon.
Secondly, I'm wondering about the frame of the headphones. One thing I've realized, in working with ribbons, is that you 'feel' subbass, even though the driver isn't exactly creating it.
The ribbon itself is between two magnets, and the flow of current through it is what gets us the sound response. But in many cases, the cable used to send current through the ribbon is adjacent to the driver, on the other side of one of the magnets. In many cases, this cable is bolted tight to the magnet, because if it wasn't, it'd vibrate freely (for the exact same reason why the ribbon itself vibrates, as the same current flows through it). But attaching it to the magnet or the frame to prevent free vibrations essentially causes the frame itself to vibrate, resulting in, for many ribbon users, an odd, inexplicably, yet sometimes satisfying subbass response through the frame itself vibrating. Do you observe such a thing in the Goldplanar?
I have no questions about mids and treble, because even the worst ribbons can create beautiful mids and treble, but the bass will always be wonky in my experience.
If you listen to a complex bass heavy song, with very heavy bass as well as clearly audible mids or highs, I'm wondering if you notice any sort of odd phasing with the bass. In my experience with ribbons, if a ribbon is allowed to have strong bass, and strong excursion by implication, in many cases the high bass excursion physically moves the driver at the same frequency as the bass, sometimes excursing the driver enough to seemingly change the 'origin' of the sound, resulting in perceived volume oscilliation at a frequency similar to that of the underlying bass. I'm not sure if you've noticed any such thing. It doesn't happen on the raal because of their aggressive, even too aggressive filtering of bass.
You can test this by playing whatever music you usually play, but also play a loud 10 or 20hz tone alongside it, and if you can hear the perceived audio volume being modulated by the bass frequency, that confirms it occurs.
If you do indeed find such a thing, that's not entirely bad. In many headphones I've designed, including a ribbon design that I hope to publicize along with 3d printable parts soon, I don't corrugate the ribbon at all, and instead use elastic to allow for extreme excursion without the risk of de-tensioning. And in my tests of these designs, I can clearly hear this bass modulation, as well as subbass response through a frame vibration (not to mention that the high driver excursion makes it so that you can actually feel the bass 'breeze' on your ears from the driver motion), and these sound 'artifacts' do serve to make it sound a lot more fun and interesting, though of course not as clinical as the raal.
What comments can you make about the fragility of these ribbon tweeters? Both the gl1200 and raals can allow the removal of the drivers without any disassembly, and raal sells their replacement. Gold planar as of now doesn't, so I am very concerned about how long a headphone that costs $1400 is supposed to last. I guess that's the risk of going the Chinese ghetto root.
@@enjoshi-godrez8775 First of all, these aren't actually ribbon tweeters. They're corrugated to the point that they can create good, albeit relatively quiet, low frequencies.
I'll say that for the most part, ribbons are probably the most delicate of all. Holding the device wrong and accidentally push your finger into the ribbon. It'll snap in half.
Whereas a dynamic driver, you can throw around with no consequence, and planars are pretty resilient too (though I've seen catastrophic planar failures where the magnets get un-stuck from the frame and rip through the diaphragm), and of course electrostatics are pretty delicate, but not as delicate as ribbons.
That said, as long as a ribbon is handled with care, you probably won't break it. They may get de-tensioned if you accidentally lightly press on one, which is pretty bad and can ruin the sound quality. But as long as you keep your fingers away from the driver, they're safe.
As for replaceability, Raal certainly does make it easy by selling extra drivers.
That said, if you've got some technical knowledge, you can make your own ribbon drivers. In fact, ribbons are probably the easiest and cheapest drivers to DIY, as all you really need is some thin aluminum foil (maybe 15 - 10 microns or less if possible), and maybe some gears or a toothpaste crimper to corrugate the ribbon. (Second easiest, surprisingly enough, would be electrostatic, which just need mylar, proper tensioning, and a 'conductive dust' to create your own driver).
@@misterMusicify ok I really appreciate the such a detailed response. My general fear was not just from catastrophic failure like any other speaker designe when pushed to hard, but them simply wearing down over time (like they have a shelf life), and will eventually just stop working, which generally doesn't happen to dynamic or planar headphones for several years and somtimes decades.
Looks like my heater from my old apartment days.
Woah these look quite similar to HEDDHeadphones, pretty interesting!! Thanks for your review.
So do they have bass? as if you are comparing with stax and they dont do bass and slam impact like planars and no dynamics like dynamic drivers.
Fckkkkk, I bought it and its sooo fucking good!
I will do anything for GoldPlanar GL1200 headphones
Z you forgot the gemstone 💎
After 6 months of owning these I want to change my review... 1) Buy the Nemal Raal to 4 pin XLR adapter plug AND 2) Buy the Raal converter box OR 3) Buy the Schiit Jot R and what you get is basically an open back, rather than an open baffle, Raal Sr1a. The tonality and detail is mostly just like Raal's and SIGNIFICANTLY different than the GL1200 with the stock converter box. It really sounds like an entirely different headphone once you stop using the GL1200 converter box. The converter box has a crazy amount of EQ and it doesn't do a very good job. Its just a resistor array and is not tuned all that great. At the very least, the sr1a converter box is WAY more detailed. Not saying you should buy this over the SR1A, but this is a more comfortable option. Id stick with Raal if you favor quality and detail, but the comfort of the Raal leaves a lot to be desired. The Chinese 100% tried to copy Raal with this product, and didn't do a very good job with the converter box because, in terms of detail and transient speed, it leaves a bit to be desired. However, the box can be bypassed and what they did right was the housing... the spaciousness and comfort on these is quite good. If you want pure quality with these, just bypass the converter box OR buy the Jot R. Simple solution. Zeos seems to like thick, bassy and warm sound, and the EQ in the GL1200 converter box adds a lot of warmth to the audio, but its not super great at what it does. Another thing this does better than the Raal is to position the driver's sweet spot RIGHT OVER YOUR EAR. I cannot stress enough how much of a factor that is with ribbons. The raal headphone sounds amazing mostly only when you find that glorious sweetspot, however this one sounds amazing ALL the time. There is a 3rd option to bypass the converter box and that is to buy the Raal HSA 1B amp, but its also $4k and offers diminishing investments on your return. However, since Zeos is comparing these to stax, its only fair if you factor in costs of electrostatic amps required to run stax, and that runs you up to near HSA 1B pricing if you opt for the gold standard in solid state amps, the KGSSHV.
Anytime Zeos starts with bebop its usually a good sign.
The internals of the speaker-tap box is not confidence inducing. Also has PCBs and wires flopping in the breeze...
Zeos...please review/finish your review of the Kali IN-8, that you have in the background of this video! Of course, want to hear how they stack up against the JBL lineups and Yamahas.
Hey Zeos, I am curious which are better for gamings, and other things. The Philips x2hr, or the 38x
Zeos, I received my pair this week and I don't agree with your analysis. My electrostats sound more pleasant to me and are faster, more detailed, more clean and more crisp. This type of headphone is for people who don't mind slightly laid back sound and prefer really thick and full bodied sound over technicalities. These do sound pleasant, but I wouldn't say they dethrone stax. However, you are right in saying the tonality is pot on - it doesn't seem to be coloring the sound much and I do love that aspect of it. I just find more pleasure listening to electrostatic heaphones and don't think this will dethrone stax lineup. If anything, this could potentially be compared favorably to the thicker sounding 007s, but I haven't heard those and won't presume such a thing. When I put these on I miss the laser sharpness of my electrostats, but alternatively, when I put on my electrostats I do find myself missing the full sound of the GL1200s a little bit. However, I am more drawn to the electrostat's precision. After having owned both I would say these ARE better than the GL2000s, and I would say by a lot too, so its most definitely worht the upgrade. In terms of detail, they're probably not super far apart. I run these at 20% volume on Hypex based NC502MP amp and at 25% volume on a class A VMV A1 amp. It doesnt take as much power as they claim. Its more about having quality over quantity.
Do you have any other headphones you can compare it against? I am interested in the cans but your review seems more leveled than Zeos and I am sort of deflated. I'm not keen on dropping +2k to just have a side grade. I have the Clear, HD800S, and Heddphone.
@@mrtomcreo No, but i would rate hd800 technicalities higher. You'll have more detail from those and you'll have better transient response. The hd800s sound quite wide and expansive. I highly doubt the gl1200s beat the hd800s. If you prefer thicker and meatier sound, you might enjoy the gl1200s more, but i think id stick with the hd800s. I was tempted to pick up a pair for myself.
@@Turcoda thank you for your reply. I was really hoping for end game but I guess the search continues.
@@mrtomcreo I strongly recommend trying out stax l700 or higher and getting a proper amp... something like a kgsshv straight from spritzer/mjolnir audio and then you can call it a day. It would probably make you want to sell all your other gear. I hear the raal headset is superior to this goldplanar, so if you still want that ribbon sound, maybe its worth trying that out too?
@@Turcoda I've tried Raal and loved it. One day I'll make the plunge.
So I picked these up. At first I wasn't too sure how much I liked them when comparing them to the Clear MG. However, the more I listened to them the better they became. Velour pads are definitely the way to go. Overall these things are impressive. I see what you mean about them not having a signature or sound stage. It is just true to whatever the audio is.
In terms of staging of the different frequencies..it is almost like each frequency range has this millimeter wide stage, lower frequencies being closer and higher being further. BUT they also transfer through each stage when needed. Just a very interesting delivery.
For gaming audio I would recommend you specify for casual or competitive. While the imaging and staging are more than great for competitive gaming, the lows and mids tend to echo(?) causing you to not be able to hear footsteps or some of the higher frequency sounds that are often important. I guess what I am trying to say is that the lows and mids tend to envelope the sound when lots of noises are combined in gaming.
I also picked up the GL2000s and didn't care for them too much. My copy had 0 sound stage and everything sounded blended together with very little separation.
Do they sound better than the Clear MG? Any other headphones you can compare it against?
@@mrtomcreo Better is a relative term based on preference so it would be hard to say. In terms of music listening, I like both equally. For competitive FPS games I preferred the Clear MGs a good bit more. The GL1200 were just a bit too boom imo for that. If you aren't playing completive FPS titles either could work.
Have you tested these with the gold or aluminium ribbon drivers
These or clear mg if you had to pick one?
Is it weird that I recognize the Godzilla 1998 soundtrack at 13:03 ? Probably because I am one of 13 people that liked that one. Also, that particular song is great.
Zeos can I use the Bas X A-100 you made me buy? Also u fked up by not testing this why Zeos why
I would love for you to send these to other reviewers
Hi Zeos, love your videos. If you had to choose would you purchase the GL1200 or the Focal Clear MG that you spoke highly of in a previous video? (Assuming you can only have 1 headphone in your collection). Also if you were to choose the GL1200, which speaker amp would you recommend (value being the highest considering factor). Thanks
Get the jotunheim r and a adapter. That amp was designed to work with this incredibly low impedance headphones. Most people say you need to spend around $4000 or more to power them as well as that does.
Guys I need Your advice please
I am currently daily running my dt990 pro and I love their V shaped open back sharpest treble sound signature but now I am looking to try something new and different and i can't decide between Sundara's, DT1770 pro and hd 660s. I generally love the hugging sub bass that's why i included the 1770s as i heard it's their speciality, but i still don't know if that's really all that matters to my sound listening experience. What would you do/suggest/experience? Btw i am currently running the sennheiser gsx1000 dac/amp atm looking to upgrade it in the future, still have to find a good user friendly alternative to run speakers and headphones in a slim setup.
I like the Sundara
As much as I want to buy these, my GL2000's suck. Fool me once...
Does the timbre sound off?
Mine are incredible. Without a doubt just the best headphones I have. Clarity is phenomenal, detail is beyond my ESP 95X, has more width and staging than the Ether CX, and damn does it slam. Only thing I'd take away from it is it doesn't sound very natural. Just hearing voices you can tell it makes everything sound warm and unnatural but that doesn't really matter much for actual music. Only found a couple songs I like more on other headphones.
Id contact linsoul and have them replaced. There are variations and enough good sets out there to likely get a Good one. Tell them zeos sent you.
@@ZReviews I appreciate the advice, but I'm taking it as a sign I need to stop buying headphones for now. The Harmonicdyne Zeus' will hold me over for a while. I think my money is better spent on a pair of LS50 Meta. If you want, send me an Amazon affiliate link for those, that way I can still support you.
@@Skylancer727 I agree my GL2000 are amazing copies BUT I ordered a second pair and and changed my mind mid shipment and Linsoul said they would charge a 35% restocking fee for an unopened box PLUS shipping back - screw that Linsoul can forget me ever ordering again from them
Review the denon d9200 !!
That is a really good idea for a thumbnail!
Had these for just under a week now. They are all that and more... and that's just driving them with an old Denon AVR-2807 Receiver (110 wpc x 7). The volume on the receiver is damned near max (-1 db volume level, which is stupid high). I tried a Carver M-1.0T 2-channel amp through the Denon's preamp outs, but that was actually a step backwards both in sound quality and volume level... which is odd.
One area where I differ from both Zeos and Resolve, is that I MUCH prefer the perforated leather pads to the veleur. To me, the veleur pads deaden the sound and roll everything off. Not sure if it's my 55-year-old ears, or the difference in preamp/amplifier, but the veleur pads are a no go.
I intend to do some amp rolling... which sadly is more expensive than pad rolling.
My GL2000 have been absolutely butter... I think they need more power than some are giving them. Not amazing on my topping dx7 pro but absolutely sing on my ifi idsd sig with the magic buttons on.
Definitely my first headphone where amping actually was actually noticeable. Even with my Ether CX I couldn't tell between using my phone, BTR5, or SMSL SP200. These though sound way better on the SMSL and sound really compressed on the phone. Weirded me out.
im surprised it sounds not amazing on a $700 amp/dac, especially a topping. Wonder what would be a good upgrade from my Atom for the GL2000. Considering a Jotunheim but people say they sound great on ifi sounds sig.
There’s also the Precide Ergo AMT.
Did you try them behind some tubes? And thanks for the review!
I've been using mine behind a frey plus tube pre but still have not compare tube vs none tube. The tubes tame my raals a bit.
tube amps with enough power for these would cost around 4-5 grand.
I would need to Tube-Pre a Solid State amp. I have those 8wpc Tsaksaridis amps so I don't know if they would push.
Could solaris raw dog it without power amp? Claims 12wpc at 220r in otl mode, and has speaker out
@@hafgrim. 8 grand....'Manley Snappers' are the answer.
@@hafgrim. do you agree with zeos's concensus on these headphones? You are like one of 5 people I've ever seen that own this, so a second opinion would be massively appreciated.
The dms audience is gonna come for your head zeos, lock your doors and close your windows...
Move over stax, there’s a new "box with headband“ in town.
Zeos asmr whispering “buy these peasant”
wonder how these would stack up now
Watch out he's shilling again
Z gon give it to ya!
@Lagunakid24 DMX just passed, too soon, too soon. Rest in Power.
0:57 you forgot the gemstone!
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Monitor audio gold speakers used to use that type of ribbon Tweeter and you can literally hear in piano music the person pressing down on the pedals that's how revealing they are! Unfortunately aluminum sandwiched magnesium style woofers sounded like a metal stainless steel ball going around a roulette wheel that's also stainless steel! A bit too much for my liking.🤔🙄🤫
coming back from the audio demo, WOW.
I already had these for a month. I power them on schiit jot r.
I tried the emotiva a100 and the dynamics are gone.
I tried an old cheap denon and while it was powered the 1200 it did not sound great.
I have a crown xls but haven't tried it.
The jot r powers it well at 11 on the nob but needs an adapter.
VS my Raals.
The 1200s are not as detailed in the trebble and mids, but I would say almost as good detail wise im the bass.
Compared to the raals these actually have subbass.
The 1200 are more forgiving than the raals on music genres and quality.
If the raals are an 11 then the 1200s are a 9.
Could you link to the Jot R adapter please
Solid comparison. I will get the Raal at some point. And they have someone to beat.
i have the jot 2 what adapter do i need? apparently it doesnt come with the adapter speaker box? they are 0.1 ohms?
@@redleather420 its female 4pin xlr vs. male 4 pin xlr. GL1200 uses female, and raal uses male.
@@nande0000 so you can use a regular 5 watt per channel headphone amp if you use an xlr adapter?
Man those are real nice headphones . Waiting to see if z will do a video on my idea about going over all his amps and dacs similar to his speaker and headphone wall.
23:09 I feel the same about my L700 even if I know they are the best, I rather listen to DT1990 or to HD800 than to L700, L700 I use them once every month, the detail is insane but they are fatiguing, L700 are made to listen at low volumes and still hear everything, but I want to listen loud. The vocals are insane, but I want to FEEL the voice in my eyes, but I can't, they become harsh and painful very easy with wrong music. L700 and maybe GL1200 are different animals than we were used to and need a different use behaviour. With all these expensive headphones, yesterday I was enjoying listening to MSR7, instead of putting the L700, so.. yeah. The most used device to listen is the LSR305, then DT1990, then HD800, then MSR7, then L700, so.. yeah. I don't really listen on youtube on headphones, LSR305 are just HD800 but in my room.
Seems like that is more of a tuning problem. They like brst to be on tube enigizers so if you are using a solid state that might partially explain why its more harsh sounding. Habe you tried to eq them? E stats take very well to it.
@@enjoshi-godrez8775 Yeah, using 353X which is on the dry side.
@@steamstories1279 If its very difficult to listen to it at high volumes, then its most likely to do with peaky frequencies that are too forward. I would try to experiment with apo equaliser, since its free and can sometimes completely transform how you experience the same music. The only thing you will lose is time, as without a measurement microphone you won't know exactly where those peaks and troughs lie, but starting with a 8 band equaliser, and then pulling it up further and then down further will give you an idea of what frequency band you would like to change, then maybe switch to a 16 eq band to do finer agustments using the same technique.
that looks like the headband from the Quad ERA-1.
Great video. Please review JTR Noesis 215RTs and Captivator 4000ULF .
So If I buy these headphones and GSC GX3 300-watt amplifier is that all I need? and connect the amp to my LG CX, do I really need to buy a DAC? I can't afford a DAC
Yes you need a dac. These are enormously transparent. Anything less than $500 is simply going to have to much compression to get the most out of these. Though I have to ask why you can’t afford that, but can afford a $1400 headphone. I don’t think these are right for you.
is there no reason to make all headphones terminate in a single wire?
Can you please review AT MSR7 B ? Curious if they are worth upgrading from originals.
Are you going to review the wharfedale 12.2s?
You can install Google translate to your phone and use that to translate the chinese manual. Works via camera, kinda jank but its better than nothing
"NOTE: This headphone needs professional audio amplifier to power. We suggest to play with 4ohms load, single track/100Watt." 😅
The bathroom was designed with driams
Capt America Gif
I got a pair of dual magnet gl2000s and they sound amazing
I love Punch Man 15:57 my favorite part of this whole review and yes I watched this whole vid
is the mouse pad about neural networks ????
Yeah, I just noticed too: since when does Z have a multi-layer neural network themed mousepad? O.o
So you really think they are better than the Stax L700? I wanted to buy them for years since you praised them and I heard them at an audio show and was blown away. Now you are making my life very complicated :)
Does anyone know if these will work on the dedicated Schiit amp designed for the Raal's ?
what is the song playing in the beginning?
You should review the SCHIIT amp for these. It’s not even expensive. JOTUNHEIM R
MODULAR AMP FOR RAAL RIBBON HEADPHONES is $800.
Also what about trying different pads on these?
The Schiit Jotunheim R has recently dropped radically in price.
I have a vintage Asr emitter. I might get these, later do, just bought magnepan lrs
Do you liked them more than meze Empyrean ?
Thank you for using metric :)
i bet my vintage Japanese Nikko amp would be a great match.
need to fix mine.. nikko amps are awesome
Which do you have? I have only alpha 220 stack but I love the sound. I just need it recapped but still use it daily. I hope it’s not a ticking time bomb.
was planning buying these gl1200s until you mentioned not recommend using these for listening to vinyl :(
Now I don't know why I would say that. I have those up on my desk and Vinyl would be fine. Odd.
@@ZReviews around 28:08 / 28:15 Quote: cause every pop and crack and crackel and f#kin wave you cant listen to vinyl with this you puke 🤔
Sessions from the 17th ward - is like the case for DSD (like any dsd, even the lowest one).
From the build and design, these are basically ULTRA INSTICT DT-150s!
What do you recommend for wireless ear buds I have skull Candy sesh and the sound is bad and the battery life sucks
Samsung galaxy buds+ they're fairly good quality in build and sound. Stuck with SBC or AAC codec unfortunately. But battery life I've yet to run out in a day of listening. I can wear them at work and charge them at break and still last long into the night.
Honestly when it comes to ear buds just using normal earbuds with a BTR5 or BTR3K will be the best you can get. If you really need true wireless Z usually just points out a Bluetooth MMCX device instead of anything in particular. True wireless is a messy area as Bluetooth itself is messy between brands.
AMbers 17th ward is a binanurad recorning. Phenomenal album. Wish You put song Strive on your demos
The impedance of these is only 0.1 ohm.
Don't know anything about ribbon drivers, but I usually prefer higher impedance because it's easier for the amp to deliver voltage than current.
You have a box full of resistors I think it'll be fine
Thats why you get the conversation box. Did you even listen?
@@enjoshi-godrez8775 I know. I didn't ask how to connect it to the amp.
The thing is, it seems like these are the opposite of electrostatic headphones. While they have hundreds of volts and almost no current, these things must have dozens or even hundreds of ampere with little voltage.
@@hamedshahr they are. They need 13 amps and almost no voltage. Luckily the jotunheim r amp does that better than any other amp that I've ever heard (for raal's anyway) through a conversation box and that is the size of a normal jotunheim and costing only $700 (considering what it is, that is absurdly cheap). Though for the gl1200 you will need an xlr adapter.
I know that ribbon tweeters are SUPER fragile...and if you so much as blow on them hard they will break...no joke. I bet that is what the paper box around the ribbon is for
Thanks for the amber rubarth link in the description... ?
looking forward to de' sound demo ..don't make me wait 2long or i'll go crazy soon.. my kitty says hi to your kitty.
The mouse pad link doesn't work
Nice headphones but the box and the need for a speaker connection seems like a lot of work.
For when you have just that extra bit of money that you don’t know what else to do with 😂