WARLOCK in Burning Crusade Classic: Is It Any Better Now?

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  • Опубліковано 26 лис 2024

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  • @tailez606
    @tailez606 3 роки тому +61

    *Timestamps!* Warlocks were my second fav class for TBC. This one time a higher level Paladin decided to gank me as Affliction in Arathi Highlands and it didn't go well for them, despite me being in combat with a mob too.
    0:00 Intro
    0:51 Warlock Overview
    2:33 What's New?
    5:38 Leveling
    6:44 PVE - Demonology
    9:20 PVE - Affliction
    11:20 PVE - Destruction
    15:05 PVP - Destruction
    16:05 PVP - Affliction/Demonology
    17:49 Tier Gear
    19:19 Is it any better?

    • @HouseofOrdos
      @HouseofOrdos 3 роки тому +1

      Not all hero's wear capes.

    • @WillEmmo
      @WillEmmo  3 роки тому +5

      added - thanks again!

    • @dunkelwelpling
      @dunkelwelpling 3 роки тому +1

      What was your first favorite class then

  • @amil7554
    @amil7554 3 роки тому +129

    WillE: "I present, the warlock"
    Me: "Nah, that's Nhym"

    • @FoxyBirds
      @FoxyBirds 3 роки тому +3

      OMG i legit thought the same thing xD

    • @keenzo1998
      @keenzo1998 3 роки тому +3

      whats nhym

    • @kakkakontent
      @kakkakontent 3 роки тому +5

      Who? I know Nyhm but not Nnnhhymymm

    • @SamoIsKing
      @SamoIsKing 3 роки тому +6

      Theres a name I havent heard in a long time.

    • @n1ck1930
      @n1ck1930 3 роки тому +4

      No fear
      dots are nerfed with
      Resilience gear
      Everyone’s a hunter
      DeadZone disappear
      And roflcopters
      For the engineers

  • @AllanWills89
    @AllanWills89 3 роки тому +10

    Destro fire was great for pve, I was top of dps from start of tbc until Sunwell. There is actually a rotation! Immolation, incinerate and conflag. The base damage is actually higher than shadow bolt because you always had immolation up, only lapsing when you use conflag when it's about to expire. It also has a faster cast time, 2.25 vs 2
    5. It was amazing with hit and crit gear. You could also get a mini buff from a herb in zangermarsh that increases your fire damage for 15 seconds. Seed of corruption is still op, and alot of encounters weren't aoe until later raids were released. Basically every boss is single damage. Everyone has this weird mindset that shadowbolt is bis

    • @zayll4945
      @zayll4945 3 роки тому

      Slightly conditional because you need a fire mage to keep debuff stacks up, otherwise the Shadow Locks should surpass Fire.

  • @Nico-sw1sq
    @Nico-sw1sq 3 роки тому +51

    Melees in tbc: Dey took er jerbs!

  • @goldenmemes51
    @goldenmemes51 3 роки тому +12

    Great video ! Lock was my original childhood class main in cataclysm and came back for classic and leveled a hunter got him fully geared which I really ended up regretting and now I’m following my instincts of rolling my fav nostalgic class

  • @WillEmmo
    @WillEmmo  3 роки тому +19

    Hey all!
    Hope the video was a good one. I know I had already had a bit of fun at warriors expense in the warrior video but uuhhh.. originally I had done this one first, so I left the thing in at the start.
    Also about the pvp remarks, im sure part of the calling it easy is my ongoing memories of playing a shadow priest in actual tbc and the amount of things you had to go right in order to beat an SL/SL lock whilst they literally could press 123 on their dots and win fairly easily. Maybe that was just me though!

    • @wesnelson677
      @wesnelson677 3 роки тому +1

      You never talk about what counters the class in PvP. What do you take to punish warlocks?

    • @andrewgohman2020
      @andrewgohman2020 3 роки тому

      Willie, thanks for the vid...pretty sure the meta demo spec is affliction based though, not destro

    • @mattdayne2585
      @mattdayne2585 3 роки тому

      Nah WillE I agree with you. I entered TBC with a shadow priest and ended up rerolling to a hunter since I loved the pet management aspect of the class. My best friend at the time was a warlock. We knew each others account and passwords so we could play each other accounts if they were offline and were bored. I remember my buddy got hooked onto another game for a bit in TBC so I played his warlock a lot. And god damn, i felt like a PvP god whenever I played his lock. And i thought my BM hunter was OP meanwhile I remember easily being able to 2v1 people on my buddies lock easily in affliction or sl/sl. I even remember playing arenas with my lock buddy and would get pissed when he made simple mistakes, it came to the point where I knew his class better than he did.
      I originally was thinking about rolling a warlock in classic with mostly TBC in mind but made a warrior since I barely played any melee classes in old WoW expansions. Rogue is to squishy and cooldown dependent for my tastes. Most likely will use that lvl 58 boost on a lock. Already leveled a warrior, hunter and mage to 60, don't have the desire or motivation to do it for another class.

    • @mistermistah3380
      @mistermistah3380 3 роки тому

      My BC experience was in order 70 Mage, 70 Hunter, 70 Shaman then I got a 70 Warlock... then slapped myself for not playing one sooner... it was just so busted.

  • @Spuck1983
    @Spuck1983 3 роки тому +3

    I definitely went fire lock. 7/0/54 ftw. I did keep separate gear for fire resist boss fights, like that bird (?) for example (otherwise i'd use fire dmg belt etc). Another fun bit was 2v2 arena. It was a shadow priest and i, so the opponents would quickly pop into shadow resist gear...only to get killed by fire. The tanking was easy as a fire lock ofc. Always used to end up 3-manning scholo and stuff (lock-priest-mage) before tbc and that just continued in tbc. The tanking gear in tbc was expensive, but the guild loves it when there's someone taking one for the team. (The other locks loved it too, cause their dmg was higher in comparison haha.) Fire is definitely underrated...

  • @ahmadsoliman9919
    @ahmadsoliman9919 3 роки тому +4

    I’m sure there is a hundered different comments saying this but currently on the warlock discord there is a lot of information out there saying fire lock will out preform shadow warlock! Just thought I’d mention it since the video said they wouldn’t be seen!

    • @FPVmediaCO
      @FPVmediaCO 3 роки тому

      I played destro all through og tbc. Was consistently top dps, and outdid aff locks. Also very powerful in pvp. Destro being slept on by most guides out now.

  • @Slightylstupid
    @Slightylstupid 3 роки тому +17

    I like how the Belf lock was identical in appearance to Nhym. Nice throwback.

    • @oct2119960
      @oct2119960 3 роки тому +1

      I mean it’s a tier set

    • @wowprobeast7543
      @wowprobeast7543 3 роки тому

      who is nhym

    • @dentyo5238
      @dentyo5238 3 роки тому +1

      @@oct2119960 No shit, but he also chose the exact BE features nyhm had.

  • @beardman2156
    @beardman2156 3 роки тому +8

    Honestly willie I just love your voice ! You and Madseason just sound so great to me.

  • @YujiNakaSonic
    @YujiNakaSonic 3 роки тому +12

    Glad to see Nhym found work here in Will Es video

  • @korenn9381
    @korenn9381 3 роки тому +37

    I was expecting a 5 second video with WillE saying "yes."

  • @poppy1x3
    @poppy1x3 3 роки тому +38

    "Is it even better now?" Oh yes, OH YES IT IS

  • @Yanya420
    @Yanya420 3 роки тому +31

    "is it any better now" yeah I wonder lol

  • @Epidombe
    @Epidombe 3 роки тому +8

    That warrior looks just like me. I am personally offended by this.

  • @Eldest98642
    @Eldest98642 3 роки тому +5

    I'm so glad you made the warlock look like Nyhm!

  • @lisavauhti7675
    @lisavauhti7675 3 роки тому +2

    Fire is great spec to have opener in pvp but the incinerate and immolate scaling with haste is worse than shadowbolt and life tap doesn't receive extra mana if imp is sacrificed

  • @jacobniznik8392
    @jacobniznik8392 3 роки тому +13

    Finally!! been waiting for this vid since you started this series

  • @devonchafe2764
    @devonchafe2764 3 роки тому +6

    Well I chose the right time to check my subscriptions tab, 1 minute gang let's goooo

  • @SD78
    @SD78 3 роки тому +8

    'Any better'
    Insanely OP in both raids and PVP.

  • @e2rqey
    @e2rqey 3 роки тому +2

    So close!!!!! Happy preemptive 100K Subs! Congrats!

  • @java7583
    @java7583 3 роки тому +2

    This is good information to have, I'm hoping to have a computer that can run BC by the time it drops, and knowing what all changed between the versions will help with decision making if I get there...

  • @Coaltergeist
    @Coaltergeist 3 роки тому +37

    Rolled a lock in classic JUST for this... can't wait

    • @Drain_Life_Archive
      @Drain_Life_Archive 3 роки тому +5

      I also preleveled a warlock just for BC. People at the time were saying I was wasting my time because either BC wouldn't come or we weren't sure it would. Bet they feel stupid now.

    • @TWEEK0423
      @TWEEK0423 3 роки тому +6

      You and 81% of the rest of the world

    • @Coaltergeist
      @Coaltergeist 3 роки тому +1

      @@TWEEK0423 I mean, I still enjoy lock in classic vanilla, don't get me wrong.

    • @kiffy00
      @kiffy00 3 роки тому

      human one too i presume? rogues will be sweating bullets

    • @nastynotch8314
      @nastynotch8314 3 роки тому

      Hello brother! I did the same. I am ready!

  • @TheSlimshady955
    @TheSlimshady955 3 роки тому +1

    Warlocks are beast in tbc, plus they have the most badass looking sets in the entire game

  • @Coriore445
    @Coriore445 3 роки тому +30

    "They took my world buffs!" i though that was funny

    • @SirJohnsonP
      @SirJohnsonP 3 роки тому +2

      I like doing big dmg 🤣🤣🤣 i was all out 🤣🤣🤣

  • @soraya123
    @soraya123 3 роки тому +1

    A lot of rerollers will be shocked about the PvP "Performance" of Warlocks....There is multiple things people forget.
    Even in Originall TBC Locks only Dominated Season 1 and 2 there is multiple reasons why it will be harder this time around.
    1. Resilience changes .....in my opinion this never worked propper on privat servers and it is a huge nerf for locks
    2. People will kill your pet in seconds (in Season 1 and 2 back in the day ppl would not even bother to touch ur pet)
    3. EVERY Rogue will be Undead Horde side....
    But there is also good news.
    1. UA is still criminally underrated in PvP ,the dmg u do as UA lock is insane
    2. Open world PvP ....unless it is an Undead Rouge with Preperation ready u do not need to worry at all...jsut turn your monitor on 30 seconds after u get attacked and you will be fine.

  • @morbid1.
    @morbid1. 3 роки тому +2

    I remember leveling lock is always affli with imp on passive.... and you just dot and fear everything that moves

  • @Mowemoe
    @Mowemoe 3 роки тому +30

    Never clicked so fast lol

  • @theli3x
    @theli3x 3 роки тому +4

    Looked on PVE talents as Warlock and was like cool, I literaly do same thing as in classic, but this time Im gonna be TOP dps insted of worst

    • @stotysiecy916
      @stotysiecy916 3 роки тому

      Hunters will dominate the recounts on most bosses anyway

  • @zepwnersoup88
    @zepwnersoup88 3 роки тому +6

    love the Nyhm reference!

  • @goovibesonly1339
    @goovibesonly1339 3 роки тому +1

    You have a great channel here man! So happy i found it.

  • @Fohom
    @Fohom 3 роки тому +4

    You forgot to mention instant Aoe Fear in deep Affli. Pretty solid for Pvp. I always played lock as a main and was thinking about going this spec for arena. We'll see...

    • @matthill2146
      @matthill2146 3 роки тому +2

      You're limited in any spec that's not sl/sl. Melee classes will sit on you and destroy you.

  • @WoWSoka
    @WoWSoka 3 роки тому +6

    If you have a fire mage in your raid, fire destro will always do more dps than shadow destro, for the entirety of tbc.

  • @joy3833
    @joy3833 3 роки тому +5

    Loving the content man, good job!

  • @Preacher_.
    @Preacher_. 3 роки тому +2

    "Is it any Better"...
    It's literally a God!!!

  • @o0Donuts0o
    @o0Donuts0o 3 роки тому +5

    Hopefully I will have at least one class at 60 when tbc goes live.

  • @ctg4818
    @ctg4818 3 роки тому +5

    Nhym looking warlock

  • @Manifibell
    @Manifibell 9 днів тому

    I'm so happy we will get back here in time!

  • @zwojack7285
    @zwojack7285 3 роки тому +3

    So the next video will be the best at the finish. nice.

  • @supermilk21
    @supermilk21 3 роки тому +1

    Hey wille great information as always, they did confirm the summoning change will NOT be in at launch.

  • @teddys5775
    @teddys5775 3 роки тому +1

    I wonder how good the shadoweave set and 2 of the malefic set would be for farming you should be gaining a ton of health

  • @Ash75358
    @Ash75358 3 роки тому +3

    In AV I used to spread my seed through the hills (spells could actually go through the rock) onto hordes of players...once one of them goes boom the rest follows. I would just devistate the incomming enemies

    • @wisniamw
      @wisniamw 3 роки тому

      still in game to this day, still you can cast spells on battleground through ground :D

    • @Ash75358
      @Ash75358 3 роки тому +1

      @@wisniamw haha unbelievable xD

  • @RedMarshal005
    @RedMarshal005 3 роки тому +5

    Is the Blood Elf modeled after Nyhm?

    • @DecentAtGeometry
      @DecentAtGeometry 3 роки тому +1

      I was just thinking that. Ahh the good old days.

    • @WillEmmo
      @WillEmmo  3 роки тому +4

      a bit yes lol, I was gonna do a gnome originally like my main, but I did that for the mage, so I decided to go throwback for nyhm instead

  • @AardvarkPaysOff
    @AardvarkPaysOff 3 роки тому +1

    20:23 Hmmm, That blood elf looks alot like a certain Warcraft parody singer

  • @SiopeR
    @SiopeR 3 роки тому +19

    Asmongold will lose hairs watching the opening scene ;D

  • @Fusions-xl3sh
    @Fusions-xl3sh 3 роки тому +1

    Warlock specs are complete in wrath and much more fun

  • @A_Goat
    @A_Goat 3 роки тому +5

    Just when I thought I was out.
    You pulled me back in.

  • @One-op6wh
    @One-op6wh 3 роки тому +2

    Great video! Can't wait to see hunter.

  • @SoliiD
    @SoliiD 2 роки тому

    I just watch these videos over and over again , just because i like them so much man !
    Thanks

  • @shtroizn
    @shtroizn 3 роки тому

    Ah! Tier 5... imo the BEST looking garb in the entirety of WoW! So badass!!!

  • @Vhite
    @Vhite 3 роки тому

    I'm probably going to try fire destro anyway as I'm a bit sick of shadowbolt spamming after classic to see if there's really that much difference in practice.

  • @andycarr3711
    @andycarr3711 3 роки тому

    Good Good. Really hit your stride with these vids.

  • @kgt94
    @kgt94 3 роки тому

    I just got a boosted warlock and built it to the destruction skill tree and I’m already regretting it lmao. Imma go back and redo it suck that it’s either demo or afflic.

  • @p-chan3319
    @p-chan3319 3 роки тому

    Can't wait to play again sl/sl :) finally i can focus only on pvp and have raiding on /ignore for TBC

  • @thorinoakenshield663
    @thorinoakenshield663 3 роки тому +4

    Tons of new warlocks in starting zones lately. TBC is gonna be 90% warlocks lol.

    • @rudy1999
      @rudy1999 3 роки тому +1

      Hope u are joking. Hunter will be waay more popular, even mages and shadow priests. Warlock has never been the most popular class in WoW ever. In PvP, Rogues also will be way popular than locks.

  • @MrWallinor
    @MrWallinor 3 роки тому

    Omg.. WillE where did you get that vid/clip at 13:09-13:20!? Dont tell me you were there haha!
    Eternal-Gathering was it, right? If my memory is right.. Damn now i got nostalgic for real..

  • @Fusions-xl3sh
    @Fusions-xl3sh 3 роки тому

    Armor looks so great on old blood elf models

  • @PEAJZ
    @PEAJZ 3 роки тому +3

    warlock are amazing tho, especially when theyre bald

  • @Cynndora
    @Cynndora 3 роки тому

    "created by Sephirothx"
    now this is nostalgic, nice attention to detail.

    • @WillEmmo
      @WillEmmo  3 роки тому

      i couldnt think of a better blood elf male name to fit the time period. Maybe I should have put some accents in there

  • @rudy1999
    @rudy1999 3 роки тому +3

    Man..All of 3 lock spec look incredible in TBC. Can't wait to raid and do dungeons with my human female warlock

  • @Bobobox95
    @Bobobox95 3 роки тому +6

    Uploaded during Karazhan testing /respect

  • @pokemonduck
    @pokemonduck 3 роки тому

    I kinda like the lore reason for not being able to summon in the Netherstorm... shame that it was removed

  • @DeviousWizard
    @DeviousWizard 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks to Drakedog, I'll go deep Destro for PvP

  • @beludsden
    @beludsden 3 роки тому +1

    That warrior into was hilarious 🤣

  • @UberSeamus
    @UberSeamus 3 роки тому

    Hmmm I definitely haven’t heard anyone mention the power of Warlocks in TBC, I better watch and like ! ;D

  • @jujucasar2003
    @jujucasar2003 3 роки тому

    can u explain y u are getting improved immolate with the shadow destruction spec. Is it still worth to immolate and then spam shadow bolt?

  • @stefangeibla3824
    @stefangeibla3824 3 роки тому +1

    Im so excited for TBC on the one hand... im really not looking forward to seeing that warlock overload infestation in arenas on the other 😂

  • @w33d533d
    @w33d533d 3 роки тому

    You want 1 point in Shadow Embrace simply because it counts as another debuff which counts towards the amount of bonus healing you receive back from drainlife. going full affliction till 70 is the way to go, it should last you until you get some pvp gear to go SL SL spec. Affliction "seems" weak only doing 350-400 dmg per dot, but you have like 7 dots that are all hitting for that much. I didn't even pvp on mine when leveling and guys tried to duel me and i killed them ridiculously easy, instant 20 sec CD howl of terror is WAY BETTER than deathcoil, save deathcoil against a healer when it gets to 30-25% health and starts to cast a heal and you win.

  • @spencerkimble3824
    @spencerkimble3824 3 роки тому +1

    I already see a ton of them. Sucks for us real warlocks

  • @Ybw420
    @Ybw420 3 роки тому +1

    i cant decide between mage hunter and warlock.

  • @Garadares
    @Garadares 3 роки тому +5

    Early Congrats on 100k subs! :D

  • @luca4k484
    @luca4k484 3 роки тому

    whats the addon that shows dots above healthbars?

  • @MyTomServo
    @MyTomServo 3 роки тому

    How much more damage does the felguard do than the succubus?

  • @stronggreenflame
    @stronggreenflame 3 роки тому

    What percentage of stats do your pets get and does that include hit rating?

  • @Clean7913
    @Clean7913 3 роки тому +2

    Here we go

  • @YTSProduction
    @YTSProduction 3 роки тому +4

    Another Great Video *WiIIE*

  • @Userbaer
    @Userbaer 3 роки тому

    Is it possible to change demon name in tbc ? I think you can resummon them for a new random name, is that still possible ?

  • @manolisathanasios
    @manolisathanasios 3 роки тому

    I have a feeling ppl on 3s will kill your pet. Season 2 and 3 warlocks are very good for pvp but 4 all melee class become strong I remember when I was played back then. Something coming my mind to ask what do you think about tir5 2 pic 15% heal pet for arena?

  • @dmarsland1
    @dmarsland1 3 роки тому

    Willie Thank you for your great Vids really enjoy them. However, I have 2 questions for you 1. What add-ons are you using and 2 What UI ?

  • @jujucasar2003
    @jujucasar2003 3 роки тому

    which spec is best for lvling. I know felguard is best if u dont have gear cuz the pet has dmg doesnt scale up that much with much better gear so the shittier the gear the more % dmg the felguard does relative to your dmg woudl be alot higher.
    But if u have some nice sexy gear would aff be better with the slutcubus for solo lvling?

  • @pwl2992
    @pwl2992 3 роки тому

    That warrior insert was... intresting

  • @zteveh
    @zteveh 3 роки тому

    1.15 Introducing the Meta-Clown.

  • @surgeongeneralx6655
    @surgeongeneralx6655 3 роки тому +1

    Saving the best for last I see.

  • @bigsmokesorder
    @bigsmokesorder 3 роки тому

    I'm a frost mage and highly considering switching to Warlock after hearing the AOE is up there with Mage. Sold.

    • @mNag
      @mNag 3 роки тому

      For solo aoe farming, mage is still gonna be superior. But in a raid setting, seed of corruption is insanely good. You may miss all the mage's aoe utility like frost nova, cone of cold and blink.
      As well, remember seed of corruption is a casted spell, while mage has arcane explosion for when they're taking hits.
      All that said, seed of corruption puts out insane numbers for warlock, but they kind of rely on mages and/or tanks for keeping them safe while they blow things up.

  • @dvanerdivkanade
    @dvanerdivkanade 3 роки тому

    what is that addon for DOTs (timer above their name)

  • @BrettCahill
    @BrettCahill 3 роки тому +1

    Asmon gonna be fuming about that warrior disrespect

  • @Shinobi001
    @Shinobi001 3 роки тому +1

    almost 100k subs :O

  • @sebastiaanmarechal8482
    @sebastiaanmarechal8482 3 роки тому

    Curious to how many wow classic fury warriors will reroll warlock for tbc classic.

  • @brycejenkins6949
    @brycejenkins6949 3 роки тому +1

    *Frantically looks for gnome in introduction*

  • @Minibuddha1990
    @Minibuddha1990 3 роки тому

    IT IS TIME FOR ALL MY FELLOW DESTRO LOCK LOVERS TO COME OUT!

  • @darklorddracula512
    @darklorddracula512 3 роки тому

    imp take less damage as its ranged so you can go demonology destruction instead succubus demo destruction if you want to go demo destruc

  • @stefanopalumbi5489
    @stefanopalumbi5489 3 роки тому +2

    And I found the gnome again, feeling great 💪

    • @cristhianmlr
      @cristhianmlr 3 роки тому +1

      The mage and the channel logo are not the hidden gnomes.

  • @bigdawg7000
    @bigdawg7000 3 роки тому +1

    Saving the best for last i guess ;)

  • @mokroargra7277
    @mokroargra7277 3 роки тому +1

    Been waiting for this one!

  • @o0TraceuR0o
    @o0TraceuR0o 3 роки тому

    Feldoming a 2nd felhunter on top of your existing one will not refresh your cs, youll just feldom the exact same felhunter

  • @hyperactive1728
    @hyperactive1728 3 роки тому +1

    Ready for my lock buddies

  • @zepho100
    @zepho100 3 роки тому

    Shadow priest and lock 2s is dirty. Even as destro specs

  • @AtomFA
    @AtomFA 3 роки тому +1

    idk if you covered it in the video but the worst part of warlock classic is competing for raid slots and treated like a redheaded stepchild. *UHG warlock pulled again UHG out of soulshards are you? UHG you want MORE than 3 warlocks? UHG you want mage gear? mage: why aren't you happy spending dkp on felheart and nemesis? its really cool looking pvp gear"* can't wait for mages to suck my toes now

  • @tylerpetree4271
    @tylerpetree4271 3 роки тому +1

    why does everyone hate on fire destro??? it's 100% viable and fun as hell to play

  • @AnrcyTVs
    @AnrcyTVs 3 роки тому

    I’d be great if the Locks in Classic would stop ganking me with their dots, so I can only imagine how Hellsfire is gonna be.