The best video so far of the system that I am going to build in my house, as it's the cheapest and most efficient. A couple of notes: -Careful with the vent hole. It's enough for mosquitoes to access the tank and spawn inside. -Consider painting the tanks or covering them in black plastic to prevent algae from growing. Thank you for your effort and I hope it keeps working for many years. Cheers from Spain.
I like your setup. I have 12 totes myself. I used for watering the plants and grass. Even with 12 totes it is not enough for me. We water everyday. Thank you goodness that it is raining a lot this week in Florida. Thank for sharing your video.
Nice job. I've kept mine separate in case one gets a hole in it. I use bag filters and screens from McMaster-Carr. They drop right inside. The filter rim feels like 1/8" rod. It's 7", so secures nicely to the tote port. Thanks for sharing !
@Great Escape Farms speaker in this video. Dear Mr. Farmer, I cannot express to you in this limited space, how much you have taught me about harvesting rain in even the first 12 minutes. I will be moving to an old small 'quaint' hobby farm likely in need of work late summer this year. I have been watching videos and learning about everything from natural scrub brush clearing, to rain water harvesting, tiny home building/city/state regulations, solar power, variety of animal breeds within the animals I may like to keep, guard animals/temperments/feeding/costs/illnesses signs/symptoms, repairing home issues, re-purposing multitudes of items, the genius of wood pallet use, and so much more. But sir, YOU TOPPED THEM ALL MAKING This SO clear, that I could (with man power help-as I'm disabled) do this project and understand what, where and why during the process. Not many videos make all of those questions easy to answer by themselves at the end of any video. If I could, I would give you the Nobel Prize for best teaching video under 25 minutes by non-professional. With verification done by random professional poling of 500 viewers who sought video un-solicited, with >85% of those people being poled who watched it undistributed, being able to repeat how the process is laid out, what the major components are, list 3 important elements to check as you build/connect to keep the system functioning as it is designed for, and tell what all the elements marked in a photograph of the system are for. THAT is what you taught in an easy, zero confusion in your style of teaching nor your voice/word usage, without being condescending NOR over-simplify, or over complicated. GENIUS. I've watched MANY other videos on this. I never thought WHY I kept watching different videos on this because every one I've watched the person teaching it (all have been men as the main speaker in the videos I've seen thus far) were INCREDIBLY excited about the outcome of what this process creates. And it IS VERY EXCITING when you can fill that HUGE container after ONE rain fall ..not a torrential downpour either. Just an inch off one side of your average sized residential roof. (Doubling it all from the other side of the roof-that's amazing to me). I WILL be doing this. I will be watching a lot more of your films and am so thrilled to have such a great teacher willing to share what you know with the world. You are a blessing to me, and likely, throngs of people that you help. Many Thanks.
Nice system. A 6" pool skimmer basket with a re-usable skimmer basket sock works great on my similar system for screening the 6" Tote hole. Thanks for sharing.
You can also add other containers over by each garden and use your overflow to fill up garden water for watering bucket hand watering, anywhere that needs water that is at a lower elevation than the holes in your overflow pipe can be fed from the open end of the overflow, looks like a pretty sweet system overall, good video.
Thanks for the kind words. I see what you are saying - basically daisy-chain tanks together to extend the water storage, as long as they are downhill. Cool idea!
I have 14 of these plumbed together. I love off grid. My main water source. I go from 3inch drain pipe to 2 inch pvc woth rubber couplings reducers etc.
Great looking system. I've started with a four-55 gallon barrel system. Had the same problem that you had with my fourth barrel. Pressure would build up and slow down the equalization of water in the four barrels. My system only has 323 square feet of guttered roof. Still, it's amazing how much water you can harvest with one inch of rain. Great job 👍
Always happy to see awesome recycling systems! It is my profession! I will advise you and everyone enjoying this to spend the extra money and purchase schedule 80 piping (grey). Grainger is pretty cheap. Especially for your 2'' pieces, unions and connections. Otherwise the sun and weather destroy the outside of the pipe. Also, the zinc from your roof and gutter and natural acids in rain destroy it from the inside. Anyway, good luck to all.... That's all I have to say about that.
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Great job! I think I would use, smaller pipe, paint the containers, and metal shut-offs. The unions and such as a preparation for Winter is awesome. Overflow is a great idea instead of putting it on the gutter. I agree with the less glue, the better. I'll check out your other videos. Thank you.
I have 3 rain barrels set up at my home - 50 gallons each. If there's a week or so of no rain, they'll go dry. But it's very satisfying to harvest rain.
I've since moved on to 1500 gallon tanks and have been using two for the last couple of years. I'll be adding a third later this year for a total of 4500 gallons on this system. I use a lot of water running a nursery business.
The Syphon break us a great idea. covering the system with an enclosure, black paint or heavy gauge black plastic wrap will minimise algae growth. Especially if you consider rainwater consumption later on !
Nice video. Though I have two concerns..(1) the over-flow pipe. The highest your tanks will get is the BOTTOM of the 2" fittings Not half way up. And there really wasn't a need for the "vacuum" holes. Because the water will never fill the 2" pipe. (2) Your totes should have been wrapped in thick black plastic to prevent the sun from build algae. You can paint them now. Just use a good quality plastic only paint. And a side note...To keep down or reduce the chance of algae buildup...You can put in a bacteria ball for ponds. Other than that you did a fine job.
Eric, are you a farmer or a homesteader? Would love to get acquainted if so as I am going to be creating an off-grid home in the midwest after selling the house. Look forward to hearing from you if you'd like to call between noon and 5 p.m. preferably Pacific time at this moment and that is 949-878-7100. Please text if you do not reach me directly because I rarely listen to voicemail messages. roxi
Good vid,I did notice you are fixing up an over flow tube to take excess water away,am not a plumber but think you should install a vent at the top elbows it just might create a syphen and drain the tanks good luck.
Another thing nobody talks about; freezing in the winter! I plan on putting my totes inside my radiant floor heated barn to be able to use the water all year round.
I plan on building a solar water heater and plumbing it into my totes. It can use thermosiphon and will keep the water warm enough to not freeze. It can also temper the water for use in the house and reduce any sweating on lines and toilet tanks. Also insulating them with a foam board keeps heat in and also blacks out the tanks to keep algae growth from starting.
Hi Todd.... If your plumbing uses two y fittings into each tank, you could just put a small rise/loop (two street 90s) at the end and an outlet tube for the overflow. The water will take the path of least resistance and then just go up, over, and out the loop at the end once the tanks are full.
with your soil type being clay ... then maybe your overflow pipes could be extended into a pond which you could dig yourself, as an additional water storage source ?
Lol. It’s like looking at a car with nine wheels. I’m glad it’s working for you though. I’ve done basically the same thing but with 55 gallon drums but I just bent the rain gutter into the hole on one barrel with some nylon net in it to push the leaves away and then near the top of the barrel I just put a piece of PVC with two bulkheads between the two barrels and they fill up an overflow. It’s a whole lot less plumbing. You could also move some of those tanks to the back of your garage and just fill one and run a 2 inch pipe all the way to the back to the other tanks and once they fill up they’ll fill up the other ones and have enough pressure to push the water back there so you don’t have to have them all right in front of your door. But looks like it’s going to work, pretty cool
Very interested in this! I'm in west TN, 8a, and after 2mos drought, rain made up for it in four days. We need more rain barrels. Currently have only one, reg. size.
I bought my first house last year, and the previous owners had a rain collection tank very similar (the same?) as what you have here. I didn't know anything about rain collection at the time and I thought it was just giant piece of garbage that I would be responsible for getting rid of, so I asked them to get rid of it before I bought the house. Now that I'm learning about rain collection I wish I still had it =(
Great job! You may want to paint or somehow cover the outsides of the IBM tanks, so as little sunlight as possible makes its way inside the tanks, to the water. May help prevent the growth of algae.
Excellent video I have a rain water harvesting system too but was plagued with algae growth so I did some online searches on how to prevent algae growth and people were saying to use 1 quart of bleach per 250-275 gallons of water and to my surprise it works
Will the bleach kill the micro-organisms in your soil that plants need? If so, I suppose periodic purging of the water containing bleach would solve this problem, watching the path of the exiting water? Chlorine bleach disintegrates over time I believe.
Cool system. You gotta get those tanks painted black tho, otherwise there is gonna be algae buildup in there! About the calculations, you need to consider evaporation, thats possibly why you caught less than expected.
As to winterizing, rather than install an additional downspout, what we do is to simply remove the ball from the first flush pipe, and replace the end cap with a plastic flex pipe that connects to an underground drain that directs downspout runoff away from the house and out into our yard. After any hard freeze threat has passed, we reverse the process, catch our spring rains, and fill our tanks for the coming summer’s drought. This arrangement has the additional advantage of flushing out the first flush pipe so that it’s clean and free of debris and sediment come spring.
Just watched your Rain water Video and noticed one of your tank inlets is a straight pipe at 45 degrees at the top and IT is VERY close to the rim at the top. I had the same setup here in Australia. The reason 1 tank is slightly less full is because in a downpour the 45 degree pipe WILL flow almost full bore and a percentage of the water will hit the rim at the top and be lost. Easy solution for you cut back a short section and put another 45 degree bend on the pipe. This gives you a vertical drop inlet like the other tank and NO water is list by this method. Hope this helps?
How have the Tote's held up over the last few years? Did you end up painting or covering them to prevent green algae build up from sunlight, on the inside of the tote's? Great set-up though, going to use a modified version on my shed.
This is so amazing 👏🏿 and well crafted. Where did u get the quick disconnect hose coming from the tote, and also, what size hose or fitting did u use at the shutoff valve of the tote? If u don't mind sharing please
I was just watching your videos again and just thought about something. Have you painted your totes yet? And something no one has talked about on UA-cam. Have you thought about water getting stagnant in one or more of your tanks. It happened to my single tote the first year. You will know because your water will really stink! My solution was to drop a submersible aquarium pump into the tank and just plug it in. Just a thought to keep in mind. :-)
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. I didn't have a problem this year because the tanks were empty more than they were full. I use a lot of water for the nursery business and we didn't get much rain last year.
@@mattwernecke2342 Your storage tanks need to be opaque. If sunlight is able to get to the water algee will grow. Sunlight isin't going to clean the tanks it will allow algee to grow. There is a reason that the large water storage tanks you can buy are black.
It has been over a year. I experienced an algae problem when I was trying an aquaponics project. I recommend you paint the the totes black because the totes are translucent.
another way to stop the auto syphon would be to use a t where you have the 2nd 90degree bend. Have one end of the T facing up with a bit of screen zip tied like the top of the barrel.
Great video content! Apologies for the intrusion, I would appreciate your opinion. Have you heard the talk about - Proutklarton Protecting Aqua Plan (just google it)? It is an awesome one off product for getting prepared for a mega drought without the hard work. Ive heard some unbelievable things about it and my cousin at very last got cool success with it.
As to your intake, mosquitoes can still enter. Best to place screen filter inside the cutout bottom of a container and connect the entrance pipe through a hole in the lid of the container. Then place this small container into the inlet to the tank. No way for mosquitoes, dust or pollen to enter the tank that way.
Hi, you have a nice system but i work with those IBC´s too and i would stack them to a tower because they can handle 1 full IBC on top easily :) thats the way i do it at my property greetings from Austria
Thanks for sharing that little tip on folding over the corners on rain leaders. Quick Fix! Always a bit curious as to the bearing load place on the soil for said cisterns. It seems that the pads are insufficient? Also, any reason why the first flush is so high? How do you manage to clean the leaf screen? Thanks in advance.
You're welcome on the tip of folding the corners. I never had any issues with totes sitting on the soil. Nothing ever shifted on me. The first flush is so high so that I can accommodate the first minute of a downpour, because the first minute is when the pollen gets washed down. As for the leaf eater screen, I just stand on the IBC-Totes and reach up to clean it. It is easily within reach.
I tried this with totes and they turned green even with pouring bleach inside. Plus this is a small system, not large. Now Ive got a 5000 gallon black tank and a 1500 gallon. I'm getting 3 more 5000 which will give me 21500 gallons. That's what you need for large gardening or small scale farming.
The page on our blog explains the two types of possible connector types and where to get the adapters for them. You can find that info here: greatescapefarms.com/educational-diy-rainwater-collection-system-all-you-need-to-know/
Hello, the overflow pipe that you put, would it work the same with only one tote. I finally found a IBC tote and am concerned about overflow. Is there another way to do it for overflow for a single tote or do I have to do it the same way you did it. Thanks
Very informative video! How many litters of water I can amass per year if my roof is 50m2 and in my place, the average annual rainfall is about 500 mm2? I want to irrigate about 200 young conifers and I wonder if it's possible only by rainwater considering this fact about average rainfall per year and possibility of collecting? Can you tell me what capacity of canisters I have to install?
Above the system construct a roof to cover the space in which the totes are. See: DIY Backyard Harvesting Using Repurposed Food Grade Barrels Sep 28, 2014 by Plant Abundance. Myself, I'd choose a hybrid of both ideas: larger storage with greater protection from sun & filtering with natural cleaners like sand, charcoal & moringa seed (where moringa can be grown abundantly or seed purchased cheaply).
In ground sprinkler systems have an under ground valve that allows the system to be drained. Would that solve your problem of having to dig up the pipe to empty it in the fall?
sir you can buy a small booster pump at Harbor Freight, 3/4 hp with a tank and you can plumb the pump for a water faucette and then right into your tank plumbing. It is not difficult. My tanks are scattered so I mounted the pump on a 4 wheel yard cart for mobility. I also installed a outdoor on/off switch on my pump for ease of turning it on. I prime the pump, hook it to a tank with a short water line and away we go. I get 40 lb of water pressure at 100 feet from the pump
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Not sure where you are located but is there a concern regarding the water freezing in the Winter and bursting these IBC totes. If so would you run some type of heating coil into the totes. I know for farm troths they make devices you can put into the water to stop them from freezing up for the livestock, however these totes being plastic you would need to insure the heating coil never actually touches the walls or floor. OK, I was typing as I was watching and I think I just heard you say you drain the system for the Winter, so I guess for you this is a moot point.
I actually made another video on how I do the winterization: ua-cam.com/video/nKpfa1h9NYw/v-deo.html Because we're running a nursery operation and we get plenty of precip in the winter, I do not use water from October - April. If someone needed the water year round they would have to find a way to keep the system from freezing.
6 years later, are finding that the system is sized correctly? I'm working on sizing a rainwater system in the Pacific Northwest. We're known for a lot of rain, but we get almost none of it from July through mid September. I have 10, 4x8 beds going in and we're not sure a 1500 gallon cistern will be enough water to get through that dry season. Filling the tank is no issue and my roof is much smaller than yours. But, I'm curious to hear if you find you have enough rainwater to supply those 4 beds and 'forest'?
So, after 6 years my situation has changed as follows: 1) we upgraded from 4-IBC totes to two 1500 gallon tanks. 2) we actually only use one of the beds for plant propagation, but it is a big water user (we mist the plants for 10 seconds every 5-minutes from 6AM to 9PM from June until October). 3) The food forest is mature enough that we almost never water it - only if we have a drought where we get no rain at all for 60 days or more. 4) Starting this year, I have changed the other 3 beds over to raised garden beds, so I'll be using more water on those this year. Results: Most years we have way more than enough water. Last year I started the summer with a full 3000 gallons and we went almost 60 days without any appreciable rain. Using just the plant propagation bed, we almost drained the tanks. Fortunately, we had a tropical storm roll through that filled the tanks in a day. So, the tanks would not be enough for my purposes in an extreme drought instance. This year I'll be adding another 1500 gallon tank for a total of 4500 gallons.
@@greatescapefarms Thanks. Based on that, I'm guessing I'll have to fill my 1500 (tbd determined exact size) tank once during the summer. With 10 beds and no rain for about 90 days, I just don't see it lasting through the summer. But, I'll find out!
Well great. I've discovered that I need more water in my system and have upgraded to larger tanks and redone the lower plumbing. The video for that system is here: ua-cam.com/video/HGOCE1DyUE8/v-deo.html
I would have the overfill come out of the top of the right most tank’s lid. Obviously you said you wanted to prevent any leakage but that could be remedied by placing this tank slightly lower and mitigate that risk to just him. I have yet to see any leakage for my own system using this method. Anyways, a really nice setup.
@@klayng1 They actually sell water tanks at Tractor Supply and other stores that are light proof. I have a 1500 gallon tank that is green and it does a great job of keeping light out. I found mine on Craigs List a few years back. It cost me about $200. You just have to keep an eye out and be ready to buy fast if you go used.
Great video. You mention in the video about a pressure tank and a pump. I was looking at having something like this setup but I don't think the pressure would be enough as is to water my gardens so I would need a pump. Did you end up setting up the pressure tank and pump?
the business about inlet and outlet must be at least the same size assumes equal pressure and flow. Know that 1. the inlet " pipe" can never be full bore full and will always be at ambient atmospheric pressure . 2. the outlet will always have a head pressure (assuming bottom discharge) 3. each tote pair has its own dedicated overflow discharging full bore, whilst the inlet is not receiving full bore, not to mention overspill, first clean and friction losses in the screens. Also, my first thought watching your excellent video was.... uh oh, non opaque totes...algae.
Apex roof will catch different amounts of rain fall per side according to the wind direction, and any tall building or tree near will also effect amounts.
dont leave those totes exposed to sunlight for too long... Im currently growing algae for an experiment and it took just over a week for my water bottles to grow algae.. only difference is i have air pumps pumping air into the bottles which will speed up the growth rate.
Christopher Jones plant green algae in them so the brown won't form and then every 6 months filter out the green algae and either dry and eat as a food additive or for chicken feed and compost. That stuff is a gold mine of nutrients and amino acids. Studies have shown humans can survive purely on green algae and water. Good stuff. Also planting duckweed on the surface makes more food for aquaculture. And air pumps help that out.
Awesome video! I am researching installing my own, albeit smaller scale, rain collection system and this totally covered all the bases for me in terms of questions and concerns. A+ work. I noticed in the comments that you later wrapped the totes in black plastic, which is something I plan to do also. Thanks again for a very educational video!
'Preciate the video. It's cool that you took on the challenge and did it, so take this comment lightly, but I wish there were a video by a really expert person (plumber?/permaculturist) who knew all the issues up front and showed really good ways to deal. You're discovering them and fixing them, so that's good. I mean, we learn by doing, but it'd be nice to have the best starting point possible. I'm going to take this challenge on myself - at least I'm planning too, hopefully I'll execute. I already have the tanks and most of a rough plan. Question: Why put the leafeaters so high? Seems hard to clean them. Hopefully you won't have to very frequently, but it seems you could've set them so you can just reach them.
The leaf eaters are high because they have to be above the first flush system. If I moved the leaf eater lower, I'd have to have a smaller first flush system.
@@greatescapefarms Thanks for the reply, I did set up three tanks a couple years ago and have had 3000 liters / 750 gallons of rainwater at the turn of a valve. Amazing that they all fill up in one or two big days of rain - we get a lot of rain in TN. If I mulched heavily, that should get me through a Summer drought. Unfortunately I always forget that I have them on - when I'm filling a 32 gallon trash can, which I use to fill the watering can, and then drain it down in the middle of the drought. You could also make the first flushes thicker - or have a couple of 'em together. I just like to be able to reach the leaf eater so I can clean it off easily.
Well a good beginning...but way not enough if a drought comes along more cisterns you have better you will be ....so continue buying cisterns you’ll never regret...water usually comes in winter automn...well you know..
I do drain all the water out that I can. If there is a small amount of water left in the tanks, that is not a big deal. If there is water left in the PVC you risk the water freezing, expanding, and shattering the PVC. I have had that happen before. I had a section of PVC that still had a few gallons of water in it and it shattered the PVC and I had to replace it the next year.
One of the few videos despite it's age is still very relevant. Thank You
Thank you so much for the kind words. I hope to make a new video in the near future with a quick overview and lessons learned.
The best video so far of the system that I am going to build in my house, as it's the cheapest and most efficient.
A couple of notes:
-Careful with the vent hole. It's enough for mosquitoes to access the tank and spawn inside.
-Consider painting the tanks or covering them in black plastic to prevent algae from growing.
Thank you for your effort and I hope it keeps working for many years.
Cheers from Spain.
Thanks for your insights.
I like your setup. I have 12 totes myself. I used for watering the plants and grass. Even with 12 totes it is not enough for me. We water everyday. Thank you goodness that it is raining a lot this week in Florida. Thank for sharing your video.
You are most welcome.
Nice job. I've kept mine separate in case one gets a hole in it. I use bag filters and screens from McMaster-Carr. They drop right inside. The filter rim feels like 1/8" rod. It's 7", so secures nicely to the tote port. Thanks for sharing !
You are welcome.
@Great Escape Farms speaker in this video. Dear Mr. Farmer, I cannot express to you in this limited space, how much you have taught me about harvesting rain in even the first 12 minutes. I will be moving to an old small 'quaint' hobby farm likely in need of work late summer this year. I have been watching videos and learning about everything from natural scrub brush clearing, to rain water harvesting, tiny home building/city/state regulations, solar power, variety of animal breeds within the animals I may like to keep, guard animals/temperments/feeding/costs/illnesses signs/symptoms, repairing home issues, re-purposing multitudes of items, the genius of wood pallet use, and so much more. But sir, YOU TOPPED THEM ALL MAKING This SO clear, that I could (with man power help-as I'm disabled) do this project and understand what, where and why during the process. Not many videos make all of those questions easy to answer by themselves at the end of any video. If I could, I would give you the Nobel Prize for best teaching video under 25 minutes by non-professional. With verification done by random professional poling of 500 viewers who sought video un-solicited, with >85% of those people being poled who watched it undistributed, being able to repeat how the process is laid out, what the major components are, list 3 important elements to check as you build/connect to keep the system functioning as it is designed for, and tell what all the elements marked in a photograph of the system are for. THAT is what you taught in an easy, zero confusion in your style of teaching nor your voice/word usage, without being condescending NOR over-simplify, or over complicated. GENIUS. I've watched MANY other videos on this. I never thought WHY I kept watching different videos on this because every one I've watched the person teaching it (all have been men as the main speaker in the videos I've seen thus far) were INCREDIBLY excited about the outcome of what this process creates. And it IS VERY EXCITING when you can fill that HUGE container after ONE rain fall ..not a torrential downpour either. Just an inch off one side of your average sized residential roof. (Doubling it all from the other side of the roof-that's amazing to me). I WILL be doing this. I will be watching a lot more of your films and am so thrilled to have such a great teacher willing to share what you know with the world. You are a blessing to me, and likely, throngs of people that you help. Many Thanks.
Wow, such kind words! Thank you so much for watching and your review. I wish you good luck on your project and future endeavors.
Nice system. A 6" pool skimmer basket with a re-usable skimmer basket sock works great on my similar system for screening the 6" Tote hole. Thanks for sharing.
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Cute solution for avoiding a syphon. I liked that one. Lots of ways to do an overflow and it seem like this one will work fine. Good job!
Thank you for the kind words, Jim!
You can also add other containers over by each garden and use your overflow to fill up garden water for watering bucket hand watering, anywhere that needs water that is at a lower elevation than the holes in your overflow pipe can be fed from the open end of the overflow, looks like a pretty sweet system overall, good video.
Thanks for the kind words. I see what you are saying - basically daisy-chain tanks together to extend the water storage, as long as they are downhill. Cool idea!
I have 14 of these plumbed together. I love off grid. My main water source. I go from 3inch drain pipe to 2 inch pvc woth rubber couplings reducers etc.
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How do you winterize them?
Great looking system. I've started with a four-55 gallon barrel system. Had the same problem that you had with my fourth barrel. Pressure would build up and slow down the equalization of water in the four barrels. My system only has 323 square feet of guttered roof. Still, it's amazing how much water you can harvest with one inch of rain. Great job 👍
Thanks for sharing!
Always happy to see awesome recycling systems! It is my profession! I will advise you and everyone enjoying this to spend the extra money and purchase schedule 80 piping (grey). Grainger is pretty cheap. Especially for your 2'' pieces, unions and connections. Otherwise the sun and weather destroy the outside of the pipe. Also, the zinc from your roof and gutter and natural acids in rain destroy it from the inside. Anyway, good luck to all.... That's all I have to say about that.
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Great job! I think I would use, smaller pipe, paint the containers, and metal shut-offs. The unions and such as a preparation for Winter is awesome. Overflow is a great idea instead of putting it on the gutter. I agree with the less glue, the better. I'll check out your other videos. Thank you.
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I have 3 rain barrels set up at my home - 50 gallons each. If there's a week or so of no rain, they'll go dry. But it's very satisfying to harvest rain.
I've since moved on to 1500 gallon tanks and have been using two for the last couple of years. I'll be adding a third later this year for a total of 4500 gallons on this system. I use a lot of water running a nursery business.
The Syphon break us a great idea.
covering the system with an enclosure, black paint or heavy gauge black plastic wrap will minimise algae growth.
Especially if you consider rainwater consumption later on !
Thanks!
Nice video. Though I have two concerns..(1) the over-flow pipe. The highest your tanks will get is the BOTTOM of the 2" fittings Not half way up. And there really wasn't a need for the "vacuum" holes. Because the water will never fill the 2" pipe. (2) Your totes should have been wrapped in thick black plastic to prevent the sun from build algae. You can paint them now. Just use a good quality plastic only paint.
And a side note...To keep down or reduce the chance of algae buildup...You can put in a bacteria ball for ponds.
Other than that you did a fine job.
Eric, are you a farmer or a homesteader? Would love to get acquainted if so as I am going to be creating an off-grid home in the midwest after selling the house. Look forward to hearing from you if you'd like to call between noon and 5 p.m. preferably Pacific time at this moment and that is 949-878-7100. Please text if you do not reach me directly because I rarely listen to voicemail messages. roxi
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Good vid,I did notice you are fixing up an over flow tube to take excess water away,am not a plumber but think you should install a vent at the top elbows it just might create a syphen and drain the tanks good luck.
Thanks! I did drill a few holes to solve that potential issue.
Well done, but don't forget to cover up the containers with a blackout, to stop alge growth.
Good to know..
Yes, that was done a few weeks after. Thanks!
Another thing nobody talks about; freezing in the winter! I plan on putting my totes inside my radiant floor heated barn to be able to use the water all year round.
.... or don't live where it snows.
I plan on building a solar water heater and plumbing it into my totes. It can use thermosiphon and will keep the water warm enough to not freeze. It can also temper the water for use in the house and reduce any sweating on lines and toilet tanks.
Also insulating them with a foam board keeps heat in and also blacks out the tanks to keep algae growth from starting.
Awesome! I only need water when we are above freezing. If you have livestock, your solution would be wonderful.
Hi Todd.... If your plumbing uses two y fittings into each tank, you could just put a small rise/loop (two street 90s) at the end and an outlet tube for the overflow. The water will take the path of least resistance and then just go up, over, and out the loop at the end once the tanks are full.
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This is a great rundown on your system. Thanks so much for sharing! Great to see you found the secret vent on those yellow caps! :)
Thanks!
Good planning on the anti-siphon system. Nice build. Thanks for the video.
Thanks and you're welcome!
Great! I get these totes from my job at the brewery. This is going to be great
Awesome! Keep us posted on your progress.
Cool! I built one myself - not really as nice and good as yours, but the end result of fresh water flowing out of a faucet feels really rewarding!
Awesome!
with your soil type being clay ... then maybe your overflow pipes could be extended into a pond which you could dig yourself, as an additional water storage source ?
Thanks! I actually plan on putting in a series of swales that lead over to an existing pond. I may add an additional pond on the way :)
Lol. It’s like looking at a car with nine wheels. I’m glad it’s working for you though. I’ve done basically the same thing but with 55 gallon drums but I just bent the rain gutter into the hole on one barrel with some nylon net in it to push the leaves away and then near the top of the barrel I just put a piece of PVC with two bulkheads between the two barrels and they fill up an overflow. It’s a whole lot less plumbing. You could also move some of those tanks to the back of your garage and just fill one and run a 2 inch pipe all the way to the back to the other tanks and once they fill up they’ll fill up the other ones and have enough pressure to push the water back there so you don’t have to have them all right in front of your door. But looks like it’s going to work, pretty cool
I have upgraded the system to 3100 gallons and will be adding another 1550 gallon tank this year. The design has been working great.
🇨🇦 🇺🇸 thank you so very much for the in-depth explanation. This is exactly what I was looking for. Cheers
You are most welcome!
Very instructive and well shown. Thank you. Look forward to more.
You are most welcome. Thanks for the compliment.
Thanks a lot! This will help me plan how to use my ICB tote as a rainwater catch.
You are welcome!
Great video you may want to consider spray painting these totes black clarity and sun light will build mildew in your water very fast.
A few weeks after the video was made, I covered the tanks with black plastic that I had laying around. After that algae was not an issue.
Very interested in this! I'm in west TN, 8a, and after 2mos drought, rain made up for it in four days. We need more rain barrels. Currently have only one, reg. size.
if you havent already solved the bulging issue i have a suggestion. you could always get a couple more lids and install one way check valves in them
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I bought my first house last year, and the previous owners had a rain collection tank very similar (the same?) as what you have here. I didn't know anything about rain collection at the time and I thought it was just giant piece of garbage that I would be responsible for getting rid of, so I asked them to get rid of it before I bought the house. Now that I'm learning about rain collection I wish I still had it =(
You'll learn a lot more putting your own system together. :)
Great job! You may want to paint or somehow cover the outsides of the IBM tanks, so as little sunlight as possible makes its way inside the tanks, to the water. May help prevent the growth of algae.
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Excellent video I have a rain water harvesting system too but was plagued with algae growth so I did some online searches on how to prevent algae growth and people were saying to use 1 quart of bleach per 250-275 gallons of water and to my surprise it works
Awesome! Thanks for sharing.
Will the bleach kill the micro-organisms in your soil that plants need? If so, I suppose periodic purging of the water containing bleach would solve this problem, watching the path of the exiting water? Chlorine bleach disintegrates over time I believe.
What a great job! That was thoroughly entertaining you really thought of everything it seems! Thanks for sharing your documentation of your hard work!
You are most welcome! Thanks for taking the time to comment!
Enjoyed this, very practical and useful information. Thanks.
You are most welcome. I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
Cool system. You gotta get those tanks painted black tho, otherwise there is gonna be algae buildup in there!
About the calculations, you need to consider evaporation, thats possibly why you caught less than expected.
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As to winterizing, rather than install an additional downspout, what we do is to simply remove the ball from the first flush pipe, and replace the end cap with a plastic flex pipe that connects to an underground drain that directs downspout runoff away from the house and out into our yard. After any hard freeze threat has passed, we reverse the process, catch our spring rains, and fill our tanks for the coming summer’s drought. This arrangement has the additional advantage of flushing out the first flush pipe so that it’s clean and free of debris and sediment come spring.
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Just watched your Rain water Video and noticed one of your tank inlets is a straight pipe at 45 degrees at the top and IT is VERY close to the rim at the top. I had the same setup here in Australia. The reason 1 tank is slightly less full is because in a downpour the 45 degree pipe WILL flow almost full bore and a percentage of the water will hit the rim at the top and be lost. Easy solution for you cut back a short section and put another 45 degree bend on the pipe. This gives you a vertical drop inlet like the other tank and NO water is list by this method. Hope this helps?
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How have the Tote's held up over the last few years? Did you end up painting or covering them to prevent green algae build up from sunlight, on the inside of the tote's? Great set-up though, going to use a modified version on my shed.
I ended up covering the totes with black plastic I had on hand. Worked like a charm.
@@greatescapefarms how do you keep the water from freezing and breaking the totes in winter? I'd love to do this for rain myself.
This is so amazing 👏🏿 and well crafted. Where did u get the quick disconnect hose coming from the tote, and also, what size hose or fitting did u use at the shutoff valve of the tote? If u don't mind sharing please
I was just watching your videos again and just thought about something. Have you painted your totes yet? And something no one has talked about on UA-cam. Have you thought about water getting stagnant in one or more of your tanks. It happened to my single tote the first year. You will know because your water will really stink! My solution was to drop a submersible aquarium pump into the tank and just plug it in. Just a thought to keep in mind. :-)
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. I didn't have a problem this year because the tanks were empty more than they were full. I use a lot of water for the nursery business and we didn't get much rain last year.
Maybe you could turn the water like turning compost often if you cant do a pump
Solar rays will keep the water in those big totes clean.
Matt Wernecke more likely to go mouldy, as the”totes” are transparent, the light WILL turn the water green.
@@mattwernecke2342 Your storage tanks need to be opaque. If sunlight is able to get to the water algee will grow. Sunlight isin't going to clean the tanks it will allow algee to grow. There is a reason that the large water storage tanks you can buy are black.
It has been over a year. I experienced an algae problem when I was trying an aquaponics project. I recommend you paint the the totes black because the totes are translucent.
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another way to stop the auto syphon would be to use a t where you have the 2nd 90degree bend. Have one end of the T facing up with a bit of screen zip tied like the top of the barrel.
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Add some tarp around the frame to prevent algae and uv damage
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Great video content! Apologies for the intrusion, I would appreciate your opinion. Have you heard the talk about - Proutklarton Protecting Aqua Plan (just google it)? It is an awesome one off product for getting prepared for a mega drought without the hard work. Ive heard some unbelievable things about it and my cousin at very last got cool success with it.
Actually it’s better to use uv blocking paint
Great stuff, good video work, nice to see how much you put into setting it up properly.
Keep up the good work.
Thanks Garth!
As to your intake, mosquitoes can still enter. Best to place screen filter inside the cutout bottom of a container and connect the entrance pipe through a hole in the lid of the container. Then place this small container into the inlet to the tank. No way for mosquitoes, dust or pollen to enter the tank that way.
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Hi, you have a nice system but i work with those IBC´s too and i would stack them to a tower because they can handle 1 full IBC on top easily :) thats the way i do it at my property
greetings from Austria
Thank you for the suggestion.
Thanks for sharing that little tip on folding over the corners on rain leaders. Quick Fix!
Always a bit curious as to the bearing load place on the soil for said cisterns. It seems that the pads are insufficient?
Also, any reason why the first flush is so high?
How do you manage to clean the leaf screen?
Thanks in advance.
You're welcome on the tip of folding the corners. I never had any issues with totes sitting on the soil. Nothing ever shifted on me.
The first flush is so high so that I can accommodate the first minute of a downpour, because the first minute is when the pollen gets washed down.
As for the leaf eater screen, I just stand on the IBC-Totes and reach up to clean it. It is easily within reach.
You mentioned winter. What are your plans to drain the water for the buried pipe that ties the two pairs of tanks together?
That is fantastic! Make me want to put in a garden.
I wish everyone would :)
I tried this with totes and they turned green even with pouring bleach inside. Plus this is a small system, not large. Now Ive got a 5000 gallon black tank and a 1500 gallon. I'm getting 3 more 5000 which will give me 21500 gallons. That's what you need for large gardening or small scale farming.
Wow, that's a lot of water. I actually went to 3x1500 gallon tanks a year after making the videos.
What kind of adapter you used to connect 2inch to the tote ?
The page on our blog explains the two types of possible connector types and where to get the adapters for them. You can find that info here: greatescapefarms.com/educational-diy-rainwater-collection-system-all-you-need-to-know/
Hello, the overflow pipe that you put, would it work the same with only one tote. I finally found a IBC tote and am concerned about overflow. Is there another way to do it for overflow for a single tote or do I have to do it the same way you did it. Thanks
I did a single tote system for my father-inlaw and did it the same way.
You are my hero lol, I've been trying to figure out the best way to do this.
Glad you enjoyed it.
Brilliant, thanks for the ideas.
You are most welcome!
Nice system and great explanations great job bro
Well thank you!
Nice clean and creative .
Well thank you very much.
If your going use this system you need to paint your water tanks so alegy doesn't grow from sun lite other than that you done a great job
Thanks.
Have you.thought about hooking your runoff at ground level into pipe underground to your plants and hook it into a.drip irrigation system?
Nice idea. Thanks.
Nice System! Thanks for the Intel!
You are most welcome.
Zip tie I call them 😊
Brilliant installation.
We also call them zip ties here (sometimes :) Glad you enjoyed it!
Do you drain water before winter and things begin to freeze like water.
Well done engineering
And thanks for your Video sharing
Thanks for the kind words and you are welcome.
Very informative video!
How many litters of water I can amass per year if my roof is 50m2 and in my place, the average annual rainfall is about 500 mm2?
I want to irrigate about 200 young conifers and I wonder if it's possible only by rainwater considering this fact about average rainfall per year and possibility of collecting?
Can you tell me what capacity of canisters I have to install?
Above the system construct a roof to cover the space in which the totes are. See: DIY Backyard Harvesting Using Repurposed Food Grade Barrels Sep 28, 2014 by Plant Abundance. Myself, I'd choose a hybrid of both ideas: larger storage with greater protection from sun & filtering with natural cleaners like sand, charcoal & moringa seed (where moringa can be grown abundantly or seed purchased cheaply).
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Great video. Im looking to install something very similar in the side of my home. Those totes would fit very nicely.
Thanks for the kind words.
Nice design, may copy it
Please do. If you have any lessons learned, please share with us.
I used your water barrels for a dog house for my lab
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Thank you very much for such an informative video. Real questions answered based on effective solutions. Well done, thank you for sharing.
You are welcome. Thanks for taking the time to comment.
In ground sprinkler systems have an under ground valve that allows the system to be drained. Would that solve your problem of having to dig up the pipe to empty it in the fall?
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll look into that and see if it is something I can do with this system.
Great Escape Farms or can just get a tire stem/nipple and can blow it out with an air compressor.
Thank you so much and I subscribed! 😊
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Great video....and some good advice in these comments.
We call them cable ties here in Australia
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sir you can buy a small booster pump at Harbor Freight, 3/4 hp with a tank and you can plumb the pump for a water faucette and then right into your tank plumbing. It is not difficult. My tanks are scattered so I mounted the pump on a 4 wheel yard cart for mobility. I also installed a outdoor on/off switch on my pump for ease of turning it on. I prime the pump, hook it to a tank with a short water line and away we go. I get 40 lb of water pressure at 100 feet from the pump
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I wrapped them in black plastic this past year. I'll be painting them black going forward.
+Great Escape Farms Lovely video content! Forgive me for the intrusion, I would love your thoughts. Have you considered - Proutklarton Protecting Aqua Plan (erm, check it on google should be there)? It is a smashing one of a kind guide for getting prepared for a mega drought without the headache. Ive heard some super things about it and my buddy finally got excellent results with it.
AJ Emaas - no need to resort to drastic means such as Google, when alternate and far less invasive search engines are available... duckduckgo.com and ecosia.com for example.
I followed your lead and I haven't been able to shake the fishy smell since, pew!
Do you have anything under the cinder blocks. Or are they just in the dirt ? If so how have they held up with the weight of the water
I did not. I didn't have any issue with sinking on the weight. I have since replaced the IBC totes with larger 1500 gallon barrels.
Not sure where you are located but is there a concern regarding the water freezing in the Winter and bursting these IBC totes. If so would you run some type of heating coil into the totes. I know for farm troths they make devices you can put into the water to stop them from freezing up for the livestock, however these totes being plastic you would need to insure the heating coil never actually touches the walls or floor.
OK, I was typing as I was watching and I think I just heard you say you drain the system for the Winter, so I guess for you this is a moot point.
I actually made another video on how I do the winterization: ua-cam.com/video/nKpfa1h9NYw/v-deo.html
Because we're running a nursery operation and we get plenty of precip in the winter, I do not use water from October - April. If someone needed the water year round they would have to find a way to keep the system from freezing.
very well designed system
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6 years later, are finding that the system is sized correctly?
I'm working on sizing a rainwater system in the Pacific Northwest. We're known for a lot of rain, but we get almost none of it from July through mid September. I have 10, 4x8 beds going in and we're not sure a 1500 gallon cistern will be enough water to get through that dry season. Filling the tank is no issue and my roof is much smaller than yours. But, I'm curious to hear if you find you have enough rainwater to supply those 4 beds and 'forest'?
So, after 6 years my situation has changed as follows: 1) we upgraded from 4-IBC totes to two 1500 gallon tanks. 2) we actually only use one of the beds for plant propagation, but it is a big water user (we mist the plants for 10 seconds every 5-minutes from 6AM to 9PM from June until October). 3) The food forest is mature enough that we almost never water it - only if we have a drought where we get no rain at all for 60 days or more. 4) Starting this year, I have changed the other 3 beds over to raised garden beds, so I'll be using more water on those this year.
Results: Most years we have way more than enough water. Last year I started the summer with a full 3000 gallons and we went almost 60 days without any appreciable rain. Using just the plant propagation bed, we almost drained the tanks. Fortunately, we had a tropical storm roll through that filled the tanks in a day. So, the tanks would not be enough for my purposes in an extreme drought instance. This year I'll be adding another 1500 gallon tank for a total of 4500 gallons.
@@greatescapefarms Thanks. Based on that, I'm guessing I'll have to fill my 1500 (tbd determined exact size) tank once during the summer. With 10 beds and no rain for about 90 days, I just don't see it lasting through the summer. But, I'll find out!
@@kencharm2909 I'm sure there are calculations for this but I've always defaulted to trial and error and adjustment.
A couple of neat ideas there. Maybe can put some if it to use on my system.
Well great. I've discovered that I need more water in my system and have upgraded to larger tanks and redone the lower plumbing. The video for that system is here: ua-cam.com/video/HGOCE1DyUE8/v-deo.html
We are thinking of setting up a rain collection system for our garden because of the guality of our well water. Where does one find the IBC totes?
I found mine on Craigs list.
I would have the overfill come out of the top of the right most tank’s lid. Obviously you said you wanted to prevent any leakage but that could be remedied by placing this tank slightly lower and mitigate that risk to just him. I have yet to see any leakage for my own system using this method. Anyways, a really nice setup.
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Given the translucent containers, are you concerned about the light that hits your water?
Good catch. I ended up wrapping the IBCs in black plastic a few weeks after the video was made.
@@greatescapefarms Are there containers you would recommend that are impervious to light to start with?
@@klayng1 They actually sell water tanks at Tractor Supply and other stores that are light proof. I have a 1500 gallon tank that is green and it does a great job of keeping light out. I found mine on Craigs List a few years back. It cost me about $200. You just have to keep an eye out and be ready to buy fast if you go used.
Great video. You mention in the video about a pressure tank and a pump. I was looking at having something like this setup but I don't think the pressure would be enough as is to water my gardens so I would need a pump. Did you end up setting up the pressure tank and pump?
I have a pressure tank and a pump. It is enough to run my nursery operations but not enough pressure to run a lawn sprinkler (effectively).
Very impressive. 👏🏽
Thank you! Cheers!
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Thanks for watching.
I think the pipe on the right would be better if directed more into the tank. I suspect that some water will not be going in. Good idea though
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Where did you get the ball?
the business about inlet and outlet must be at least the same size assumes equal pressure and flow. Know that 1. the inlet " pipe" can never be full bore full and will always be at ambient atmospheric pressure . 2. the outlet will always have a head pressure (assuming bottom discharge) 3. each tote pair has its own dedicated overflow discharging full bore, whilst the inlet is not receiving full bore, not to mention overspill, first clean and friction losses in the screens. Also, my first thought watching your excellent video was.... uh oh, non opaque totes...algae.
Thanks for the info, Ed. Yes, algae will be an issue and I will have to cover or paint the tanks.
Apex roof will catch different amounts of rain fall per side according to the wind direction, and any tall building or tree near will also effect amounts.
Yep. Thanks!
dont leave those totes exposed to sunlight for too long... Im currently growing algae for an experiment and it took just over a week for my water bottles to grow algae.. only difference is i have air pumps pumping air into the bottles which will speed up the growth rate.
Thanks! I already saw your other comment :)
Christopher Jones plant green algae in them so the brown won't form and then every 6 months filter out the green algae and either dry and eat as a food additive or for chicken feed and compost.
That stuff is a gold mine of nutrients and amino acids.
Studies have shown humans can survive purely on green algae and water.
Good stuff.
Also planting duckweed on the surface makes more food for aquaculture.
And air pumps help that out.
Awesome video! I am researching installing my own, albeit smaller scale, rain collection system and this totally covered all the bases for me in terms of questions and concerns. A+ work. I noticed in the comments that you later wrapped the totes in black plastic, which is something I plan to do also. Thanks again for a very educational video!
You are most welcome. Thanks for the kind words.
Do you have problems with algae or anything inside the tanks?
I would have. A month or so after making the video I covered the IBC totes with black plastic I had laying around from another project.
'Preciate the video. It's cool that you took on the challenge and did it, so take this comment lightly, but I wish there were a video by a really expert person (plumber?/permaculturist) who knew all the issues up front and showed really good ways to deal. You're discovering them and fixing them, so that's good. I mean, we learn by doing, but it'd be nice to have the best starting point possible. I'm going to take this challenge on myself - at least I'm planning too, hopefully I'll execute. I already have the tanks and most of a rough plan. Question: Why put the leafeaters so high? Seems hard to clean them. Hopefully you won't have to very frequently, but it seems you could've set them so you can just reach them.
The leaf eaters are high because they have to be above the first flush system. If I moved the leaf eater lower, I'd have to have a smaller first flush system.
@@greatescapefarms Thanks for the reply, I did set up three tanks a couple years ago and have had 3000 liters / 750 gallons of rainwater at the turn of a valve. Amazing that they all fill up in one or two big days of rain - we get a lot of rain in TN. If I mulched heavily, that should get me through a Summer drought. Unfortunately I always forget that I have them on - when I'm filling a 32 gallon trash can, which I use to fill the watering can, and then drain it down in the middle of the drought. You could also make the first flushes thicker - or have a couple of 'em together. I just like to be able to reach the leaf eater so I can clean it off easily.
@@solfeinberg437 Thanks!
Well a good beginning...but way not enough if a drought comes along more cisterns you have better you will be ....so continue buying cisterns you’ll never regret...water usually comes in winter automn...well you know..
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This is so cool!
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Hey thanks for sharing your video.
You bet
Do you have to drain all of it in a winter time can it be a little bit of water in there
I do drain all the water out that I can. If there is a small amount of water left in the tanks, that is not a big deal. If there is water left in the PVC you risk the water freezing, expanding, and shattering the PVC. I have had that happen before. I had a section of PVC that still had a few gallons of water in it and it shattered the PVC and I had to replace it the next year.
Great video! Thank you for sharing!
You're welcome.