Anything that can pass down the food chain like this should never be approved And yes I blame the chemical companies, they know that something like this herbicide can and will cause problems be it careless or could care less users
I have been well informed about aminopyrlides for a while. There was nothing in this video that I didn't already know. My point is: I am still mad about it. These compounds are the equivalent of Agent Orange. And I am not aware of anyone taking an apologist position by asserting that the problem with Agent Orange was not the mfr but the end user and that it was up to consumers who may or may not be educated to educate themselves and do their due diligence. These broadleaf herbicides need to be banned. Period.
Thank you for making this! Second others saying that companies shouldnt be blameless. Legally speaking disclaimers and warning labels dont totally absolve blame; and socially, they are responsible for making a persistent poison despite the adverse affects it can have, caring about profit over environmental or consumer impacts.
Y'all should listen to Dr Zack Bush describe everything these herbicides do to your gut lining, blood brain barrier, microflora and various amino acids
1:38 ..."don't blame the companies.." Diego you need to think ! There are reasons these companies thrive; they created unsustainable solutions, often permanently toxic ones and suffer no significant back lash. Then, someone comes out in the media and says it's the end users fault. Get real!
Unless the seller is willing to give you something in writing that the material is 100% free of herbicides, you can assume that it's contaminated - either a little or a lot. I've never seen an exception to this in the last three years.
Thanks for accurately explaining this subject. It is too often people approach subjects like this purely from fear instead of trying to understand how to properly manage the risks.
Cool...I just spent a week clearing my now dead garden of tainted straw, dumping a years worth of compost full of said hay, and dumping future compost from the chicken coop full of that hay. Good times. I was naive to go for the great sounded Ruth Stout method of gardening without any clue that the straw I was using for the chickens and garden was full of herbicide. It really really sucks. FUDow!
I agree, FUDow, they knew this could happen and yet they are making billions, so who cares if no one can grow tomatoes, peppers, and dozens of other food products? This could eventually eradicate these foods completely.
@@nonyadamnbusiness9887 Look here you poor pathetic piece of manure. You're pathetic. You are nothing and have nothing other than trolling here. I bet you have never grown anything. Go away now BOY . I respect worms, compost and shit more than you.
My farm was devastated last year by blow over from my neighbors spraying thier field. I even went at far a as tarping as much as I could, the close half of my 100ft rows, while they where spraying. There was a noticable difference between what was covered and wasn't. I also found out the hard way that I should have washed my tarps off.
rulerofthelight, wow that is too bad. Especially the part about washing your tarps. If these chemicals are that strong, we should have very tight controls on their use, IMO.
Also currently experimenting with peas. I recieved bailing twine from a commercial horse stable. I believe the herbicide residue killed the cucumbers that I originally tried up. Now I'm seeing the tendrils of the peas won't grab it. I've tried a shoe lace beside the bailing twine to see what the pea grabs first.
@@rulerofthelight I love when people share their experiments because it helps so many others. Who would have thought baling twine could kill your plants? I may stop using manure from the local stables.
Unless the manure source can verify that all of the contributing animals have been fed only on hay that the farmer has grown themselves on fields that have not been treated within 1/2 lifex5 amount of time, proceed as if there (might) be persistent broadleaf herbicide present. A hay producer might think that, since they did not spray THIS year, the hay is herbicide free, or even knowingly sell contaminated hay to be used as feed .. When raising animals, it is not uncommon to receive hay from numerous sources .. sometimes, you are just grateful to be able to get the hay at all.
Thanks again Diego! At nine 16 and ten 16 I could not agree more. I'm a glass half full guy. No matter what I believe good will prevail. Not only do I enjoy gardening but have other interests as well. The outdoor type. I am one that chooses not to obtain manure etc from truely unknown sources. Composting the lawn and the veg trimmings already. I would rather just skip the manure. Savory,Judy,Salatin,Brown etc etc. Their manure is a vital component of their operations. There is no way they are about to let anyone take a so much as a shovel full. Something to bare in mind when obtaining manure. Is it really that good? Edit. My point about other interests. I ain't got time for manure.
Thanks for a great episode! I use Charles Dowding’s method to test manure for herbicide contamination ...before spreading into your garden stick a broadleaf seedling like squash or tomato directly into the pile and see how it grows. Your method is great, also. I have lost my garden crops some years just because a neighbor used a lawn service. The “herbicide drift” wafted over my garden and turned my beautiful tomato plants and the potato plants into gnarly, leggy monsters. Luckily it didn’t get into the soil so I’ve had good results other years. The trouble with that is I don’t know when it’s going to happen, or even for sure which neighbors.
I collect horse manure for red worms from people who have horses. It seems to me they have not been comfortable about being questioned if persistent herbicide has been used in the feedstock. In short, it creates conflict between gardener and people who want to get rid of the manure. Should i use humanure instead of horse manure? Any chance you would have a video on humanure? The worms thrive on it and it saves flushing potable water down the drain.
And if the fields have been sprayed for years it can be crap for years and years. Personally i think I'd rather feed my rabbits and my gardens a few weeds. I guess I'll just have to use only my yard grass.
We are getting close to a point in time where weeding and pest management can be done by machines. Computers (microcontrollers) are dirt-cheap and optical transducers of the quality needed for that job are readily available. The tasks of planting, thinning, and cultivation could also be accomplished by such a machine. The economics of a machine that obviates the need for chemicals is obvious. Such a machine could pay for itself very quickly. Someone just needs to do it. I did that sort of work for 40 years. But I'm 70+ and probably couldn't take the idea to fruition. But it would be a lot of fun.
Spot wiping with diesel fuel is actually better for the soil. (Neither are good practices.) It is illegal, but you can pour a pint of diesel fuel in your yard and the grass will be fine in a year or so. We need to be willing to pay a little extra for ORGANIC-ish hay. (Government screwed up the organic certification, so that cert doesn't mean squat.) And add some Tera Preta yearly just in case your purchased compost is contaminated.
Diego I got about 400 pounds of contaminated manure on my trailer and I didn't realize it was contaminated until it was loaded. of course now I can't use it on my garden but is there any reason why I can't use it on my lawn. thank you so much in advance
I'm doing a bioassay right now with pole beans. Just because they sprout and look fine do not jump the gun. Wait until the plants mature and produce the beans which is about 2 months.
How can I get my compost tested? I raise rabbits and use their manure to produce worm castings. I’m concerned the commercial feed the rabbits are fed might contain residual herbicides. I’ll run the seed tests like you point out but I’d love to have an assay done.
I Googled the topic and found some. I don't want to list them because it could be construed as a recommendation and I haven't used any of them. Regardless, they are out there.
80% of my crop in the greenhouse got struck with browning of the new growth also the new leaves wer very tiny and curled, then dried up and fell off, the plants were all was doin fine for almost 2 months before this happened. Btw the old leaves didnt look any different, only the new. i couldnt find any mold or disease matching this, i now suspect tiny amounts of herbicides in the cow manure i mended the soil with.
I learned alfalfa products sold at Tractor Supply under the brand Standlee Premium Western Forage has an herbicide called Sencor , which is a broadleaf weed control. Do you know whether this is a risk?
Hi Diego, first of all, thanks for the information. Its very clarifying. I really respect your work but I think that in this issue you are not right at all. You are not talking about the root of the problem: how is it possible that this kind of poisons are legal? We must grab the bull by the horns. You mention that some of this molecules could need 1500 days to 97% break down... but you point that the problem is that consumers of hay or compost are not doing the homework searching for "good" resources. So this means that millions of acres poinsoned with aminopiralyd or similar other molecules every year will produce poinsoned straw and hay that wont be able to be used for compost or for feeding the soil, but the problem is not really that, the problem is that the consumers are not looking for "clean" resources. You must be aware that herbicides are so wide spread (not only in USA, I write from Europe) that its very difficult to find "clean" straw, or clean manure. This is tragic. Your video will be very well received by Dow Chemical or similar companies, and they will use your exact same arguments for continuing selling those poisons. The residues from agriculture are so important for maintaning soil fertility... Are crucial. Not only for organic farms! We need this residues free from persistent poisons an we need it now. Dow chemical: stop poisoining the land. This is the message.
I was getting free horse manure and spreading it everywhere, now I have dead and dying plants everywhere. Lawn is dying, roses stunted, wolfberries dead, figs stunted, tomatoes dead. I just hope my fruit trees can tough it out.
FACT: The EPA is taking this matter VERY seriously, as nearby farm crops are being destroyed via spray drift, and use the same composts, and manures WE do. WORST offender is CITY composts, which contain highest concentration of VARIOUS biocides-insect, fungi, and herb.
Is there a chemical that will deactivate this???? I am researching this. From Oregon State website: Prepare three to six small (4- to 5-inch) pots with a 2:1 mix of the manure or compost and a commercial potting mix with fertilizer. Fill several control pots with only the commercial potting mix. Put saucers underneath each pot, or position the pots far enough apart so that water running out of the bottom of the pots will not reach another pot. Plant three pea or bean seeds in each pot, water and let them grow for two to three weeks, until there are three sets of true leaves. If the peas or beans in the control pots grow normally and the ones in the pots with manure or compost do not, you can assume the manure or compost is contaminated with an herbicide that will adversely affect sensitive plants. If they all grow normally, it would be reasonable to assume that the manure or compost is fine.
I am Observe volunteer plants in in the garden and have marigolds that drop seeds naturally each year and I just transfer them into another spot it they get in the way.
Give consideration to pharma by-products too. Our animals today are getting more drugs and antibiotics than ever. Chickens, horses, dogs, pigs, cattle and sheep are all being loaded up with medical substances that exit via their urine and manure. This stuff makes its way into the environment through our waterways and it's showing up in fish samples in the Gulf of Mexico. If it's getting into the waterways, how can we be sure it's not accumulating in our wells and public water systems?
Diego! I love your videos. I appreciate the time and effort that you put into creating informative videos with data to back them. I'd like to see some data on manure from animals that have been dewormed. I wonder what the half life of those chemicals are. I know of a worm farmer who lost his entire stock of worms from using manure from horses that had been dewormed.
@@DiegoFooter yes! Herbicides are scary! This is huge, and I think that everyone needs to be aware of these chemicals. I had some problems a few years ago that could've been from herbicides, and I couldn't figure out why the peppers I had planted weren't doing well. Now I know, and I thank you for bringing this to light! Now I will question my sources for my animals, which I ignorantly didn't know that I needed to do.
@@DiegoFooter I'm super bummed! I contacted my hay, grass, and straw supplier, and they stated that unless organic items are purchased they can basically guarantee that herbicides are in fact used. 🤢 Some situations make sense now. I can't believe that this never occurred to me. I guess the only options are to wait years before I can use the areas and do some comparison tests. I sincerely thank you for bringing this to our attention. Thank you.
A lot of the popular no-till gardeners were putting out a lot of misinformation concerning this topic. Even Charles Dowding downplayed it until it happened to him, and that man is literally a saint. Just be cautious concerning anyone giving easy fixes to the issue.
Since the micro amounts of these herbicides can cause adverse effects on growth, do you think it would be possible to use a sample of straw mulch before is has been composted, to test for presence of aminopyralids in a bioassay ? I'm thinking about creating a slurry/tea from the baled straw I intend on using that to water or treat test plants? Thoughts?
@@DiegoFooter Thanks. But do I understand correctly, that if one leaves and organic matter around for a few years (3-5), those herbicides would decompose?
😢 I'm so happy that the chemical companies are poisoning our food!More poisoned food means less hunger, fewer people and better profit for drug and chemical makers.
I'm about to watch yet another video touting the use of alfalfa feed as a fertilizer. Are these chemicals are used on alfalfa? It is made into hay, but I'm thinking it isn't actually a grass?
I think you should assume that anything could be sprayed unless it is certified organic. " The vast majority of farmers spray their hayfields and pastures with herbicides for broadleaf weed control. Today’s hay customers expect weed-free sources of hay for their animals and farmers must meet the demand of their customers." newswire.caes.uga.edu/story.html?storyid=4791&story=Herbicide-Transfer#:~:text=The%20vast%20majority%20of%20farmers,toxicity%20to%20humans%20and%20animals.
@@paulllhunterrio2169 - Perennial broadleaf weed management options for established alfalfa stands are very limited. A good alfalfa stand coupled with repeated mowing over several years can effectively deplete the root reserve of perennials such as bindweed, Canada thistle, hemp dogbane, johnsongrass, and milkweed.
Tomatoes will grow but never ripen. It totally sucked seeing Danny have to take out some of the prettiest tomatoes I've ever seen. The only way he could fix it was to dig it all out and refill with his own soil and remove all of that soil from his property
Of course the companies making these products operate on the basis that most hobby type people don't read everything listed on the packaging. Buyer beware !!!!!!!!!!!
Anything that can pass down the food chain like this should never be approved
And yes I blame the chemical companies, they know that something like this herbicide can and will cause problems be it careless or could care less users
I have been well informed about aminopyrlides for a while. There was nothing in this video that I didn't already know. My point is: I am still mad about it. These compounds are the equivalent of Agent Orange. And I am not aware of anyone taking an apologist position by asserting that the problem with Agent Orange was not the mfr but the end user and that it was up to consumers who may or may not be educated to educate themselves and do their due diligence. These broadleaf herbicides need to be banned. Period.
Yeah this guy doesn't know the damage this stuff is actually doing just to get it done quick and easy.
First time I've agreed with someone named Bill Clinton.
The EPA is seriously targeting this issue because farmers use these products as well.
Thank you for making this! Second others saying that companies shouldnt be blameless. Legally speaking disclaimers and warning labels dont totally absolve blame; and socially, they are responsible for making a persistent poison despite the adverse affects it can have, caring about profit over environmental or consumer impacts.
This is why we have regulations and laws, people will always do anything to increase profit.
Y'all should listen to Dr Zack Bush describe everything these herbicides do to your gut lining, blood brain barrier, microflora and various amino acids
1:38 ..."don't blame the companies.." Diego you need to think ! There are reasons these companies thrive; they created unsustainable solutions, often permanently toxic ones and suffer no significant back lash. Then, someone comes out in the media and says it's the end users fault. Get real!
Unless the seller is willing to give you something in writing that the material is 100% free of herbicides, you can assume that it's contaminated - either a little or a lot. I've never seen an exception to this in the last three years.
Your insistence that we not blame the companies for producing this toxic compound that doesn't break down makes you a giant tool.
Thanks for accurately explaining this subject. It is too often people approach subjects like this purely from fear instead of trying to understand how to properly manage the risks.
Cool...I just spent a week clearing my now dead garden of tainted straw, dumping a years worth of compost full of said hay, and dumping future compost from the chicken coop full of that hay. Good times. I was naive to go for the great sounded Ruth Stout method of gardening without any clue that the straw I was using for the chickens and garden was full of herbicide. It really really sucks. FUDow!
I agree, FUDow, they knew this could happen and yet they are making billions, so who cares if no one can grow tomatoes, peppers, and dozens of other food products? This could eventually eradicate these foods completely.
Excellent presentation. This is the main reason why I won't use manure. I can get truckloads of manure free but it's contaminated with herbicides.
@@nonyadamnbusiness9887 Go troll someone else. I'm a nice guy but I can and will mess up your day. Don't push it.
@@nonyadamnbusiness9887 Look here you poor pathetic piece of manure. You're pathetic. You are nothing and have nothing other than trolling here. I bet you have never grown anything. Go away now BOY . I respect worms, compost and shit more than you.
My farm was devastated last year by blow over from my neighbors spraying thier field. I even went at far a as tarping as much as I could, the close half of my 100ft rows, while they where spraying. There was a noticable difference between what was covered and wasn't. I also found out the hard way that I should have washed my tarps off.
rulerofthelight, wow that is too bad. Especially the part about washing your tarps. If these chemicals are that strong, we should have very tight controls on their use, IMO.
Also currently experimenting with peas. I recieved bailing twine from a commercial horse stable. I believe the herbicide residue killed the cucumbers that I originally tried up. Now I'm seeing the tendrils of the peas won't grab it. I've tried a shoe lace beside the bailing twine to see what the pea grabs first.
@@rulerofthelight I love when people share their experiments because it helps so many others. Who would have thought baling twine could kill your plants? I may stop using manure from the local stables.
@@rulerofthelight My god, I never even thought of that. Thank you for sharing this, I use bailing twine for all my tomatoes!
I'd love to see a conversation with you and David the Good. He talks a lot about this.
Two great channels, two great gardeners
Either him or Scott Head. Both had firsthand experiences with contamination
+1 for this
Agree. David The Good was big on this the last few years
Would love this as well!
Unless the manure source can verify that all of the contributing animals have been fed only on hay that the farmer has grown themselves on fields that have not been treated within 1/2 lifex5 amount of time, proceed as if there (might) be persistent broadleaf herbicide present. A hay producer might think that, since they did not spray THIS year, the hay is herbicide free, or even knowingly sell contaminated hay to be used as feed .. When raising animals, it is not uncommon to receive hay from numerous sources .. sometimes, you are just grateful to be able to get the hay at all.
Diego, I’m enjoying the professorial ambiance. As always, thank you. Let me know when Diego University opens its doors. ....maybe it already has 😉
Thanks again Diego! At nine 16 and ten 16 I could not agree more. I'm a glass half full guy. No matter what I believe good will prevail. Not only do I enjoy gardening but have other interests as well. The outdoor type. I am one that chooses not to obtain manure etc from truely unknown sources. Composting the lawn and the veg trimmings already. I would rather just skip the manure. Savory,Judy,Salatin,Brown etc etc. Their manure is a vital component of their operations. There is no way they are about to let anyone take a so much as a shovel full. Something to bare in mind when obtaining manure. Is it really that good?
Edit. My point about other interests. I ain't got time for manure.
Thanks for a great episode! I use Charles Dowding’s method to test manure for herbicide contamination ...before spreading into your garden stick a broadleaf seedling like squash or tomato directly into the pile and see how it grows. Your method is great, also. I have lost my garden crops some years just because a neighbor used a lawn service. The “herbicide drift” wafted over my garden and turned my beautiful tomato plants and the potato plants into gnarly, leggy monsters. Luckily it didn’t get into the soil so I’ve had good results other years. The trouble with that is I don’t know when it’s going to happen, or even for sure which neighbors.
Thank you Diego! Perfect video, didn’t mean to seem critical before.
All good. 👍
I collect horse manure for red worms from people who have horses. It seems to me they have not been comfortable about being questioned if persistent herbicide has been used in the feedstock. In short, it creates conflict between gardener and people who want to get rid of the manure. Should i use humanure instead of horse manure? Any chance you would have a video on humanure? The worms thrive on it and it saves flushing potable water down the drain.
man you gotta wait at least a year before you use that for ANYTHING 😂
Caution! Humans will pass aminopyralid same as horses. Avoid corn-fed humans if you don't know where all the corn came from.😉
Very good explanation Diego. I can tell that you researched this topic very thoroughly.
And if the fields have been sprayed for years it can be crap for years and years. Personally i think I'd rather feed my rabbits and my gardens a few weeds. I guess I'll just have to use only my yard grass.
We are getting close to a point in time where weeding and pest management can be done by machines. Computers (microcontrollers) are dirt-cheap and optical transducers of the quality needed for that job are readily available. The tasks of planting, thinning, and cultivation could also be accomplished by such a machine.
The economics of a machine that obviates the need for chemicals is obvious. Such a machine could pay for itself very quickly. Someone just needs to do it.
I did that sort of work for 40 years. But I'm 70+ and probably couldn't take the idea to fruition. But it would be a lot of fun.
Spot wiping with diesel fuel is actually better for the soil. (Neither are good practices.) It is illegal, but you can pour a pint of diesel fuel in your yard and the grass will be fine in a year or so. We need to be willing to pay a little extra for ORGANIC-ish hay. (Government screwed up the organic certification, so that cert doesn't mean squat.) And add some Tera Preta yearly just in case your purchased compost is contaminated.
Diego I got about 400 pounds of contaminated manure on my trailer and I didn't realize it was contaminated until it was loaded. of course now I can't use it on my garden but is there any reason why I can't use it on my lawn. thank you so much in advance
I'm doing a bioassay right now with pole beans. Just because they sprout and look fine do not jump the gun. Wait until the plants mature and produce the beans which is about 2 months.
We use chicken manure mainly from our own chickens and from a neighbor.
Makes you wonder about whats in plant based meat.
I promise you there is a evil agenda trying to poison us and all types of things going on.
How can I get my compost tested? I raise rabbits and use their manure to produce worm castings. I’m concerned the commercial feed the rabbits are fed might contain residual herbicides. I’ll run the seed tests like you point out but I’d love to have an assay done.
I Googled the topic and found some. I don't want to list them because it could be construed as a recommendation and I haven't used any of them. Regardless, they are out there.
$$$$$$$
80% of my crop in the greenhouse got struck with browning of the new growth also the new leaves wer very tiny and curled, then dried up and fell off, the plants were all was doin fine for almost 2 months before this happened. Btw the old leaves didnt look any different, only the new. i couldnt find any mold or disease matching this, i now suspect tiny amounts of herbicides in the cow manure i mended the soil with.
I learned alfalfa products sold at Tractor Supply under the brand Standlee Premium Western Forage has an herbicide called Sencor , which is a broadleaf weed control. Do you know whether this is a risk?
Diego .Thank you for addressing this issue.
Hi Diego, first of all, thanks for the information. Its very clarifying. I really respect your work but I think that in this issue you are not right at all. You are not talking about the root of the problem: how is it possible that this kind of poisons are legal? We must grab the bull by the horns. You mention that some of this molecules could need 1500 days to 97% break down... but you point that the problem is that consumers of hay or compost are not doing the homework searching for "good" resources. So this means that millions of acres poinsoned with aminopiralyd or similar other molecules every year will produce poinsoned straw and hay that wont be able to be used for compost or for feeding the soil, but the problem is not really that, the problem is that the consumers are not looking for "clean" resources. You must be aware that herbicides are so wide spread (not only in USA, I write from Europe) that its very difficult to find "clean" straw, or clean manure. This is tragic. Your video will be very well received by Dow Chemical or similar companies, and they will use your exact same arguments for continuing selling those poisons. The residues from agriculture are so important for maintaning soil fertility... Are crucial. Not only for organic farms! We need this residues free from persistent poisons an we need it now. Dow chemical: stop poisoining the land. This is the message.
This video was really helpful!!! I now understand how herbicides move through the ecosystem
I was getting free horse manure and spreading it everywhere, now I have dead and dying plants everywhere. Lawn is dying, roses stunted, wolfberries dead, figs stunted, tomatoes dead. I just hope my fruit trees can tough it out.
FACT: The EPA is taking this matter VERY seriously, as nearby farm crops are being destroyed via spray drift, and use the same composts, and manures WE do. WORST offender is CITY composts, which contain highest concentration of VARIOUS biocides-insect, fungi, and herb.
Define serious.
Is there a chemical that will deactivate this???? I am researching this.
From Oregon State website:
Prepare three to six small (4- to 5-inch) pots with a 2:1 mix of the manure or compost and a commercial potting mix with fertilizer. Fill several control pots with only the commercial potting mix. Put saucers underneath each pot, or position the pots far enough apart so that water running out of the bottom of the pots will not reach another pot.
Plant three pea or bean seeds in each pot, water and let them grow for two to three weeks, until there are three sets of true leaves.
If the peas or beans in the control pots grow normally and the ones in the pots with manure or compost do not, you can assume the manure or compost is contaminated with an herbicide that will adversely affect sensitive plants. If they all grow normally, it would be reasonable to assume that the manure or compost is fine.
I’ve never even thought about this with manure.
Funny how it’s the consumers fault not the company that created it or that makes it sure wish I could blame someone else for me doing something
Diego, Question, Something made in the USA can not be used in the USA. So can the chemicals you take about are they illegal to use in the USA ?
Not exactly sure what you are referring to, but yes it can be the case as some products are allowed in a state by state versus federal level.
I am Observe volunteer plants in in the garden and have marigolds that drop seeds naturally each year and I just transfer them into another spot it they get in the way.
Give consideration to pharma by-products too. Our animals today are getting more drugs and antibiotics than ever. Chickens, horses, dogs, pigs, cattle and sheep are all being loaded up with medical substances that exit via their urine and manure. This stuff makes its way into the environment through our waterways and it's showing up in fish samples in the Gulf of Mexico. If it's getting into the waterways, how can we be sure it's not accumulating in our wells and public water systems?
We have been able to use horse manure safely for thousands of years and now we have to do our due diligence. Does this guy work for Dow Chemical’s?
Great video Diego... thank you. Is Roundup (Glyphosate) part of this same conversation? Thanks!
Kind of, but not nearly as persistent.
How do you neutralize or remove Grazon from manure?
Diego! I love your videos. I appreciate the time and effort that you put into creating informative videos with data to back them. I'd like to see some data on manure from animals that have been dewormed. I wonder what the half life of those chemicals are. I know of a worm farmer who lost his entire stock of worms from using manure from horses that had been dewormed.
I will do a video on that, but not as scary as the herbicides.
@@DiegoFooter yes! Herbicides are scary! This is huge, and I think that everyone needs to be aware of these chemicals. I had some problems a few years ago that could've been from herbicides, and I couldn't figure out why the peppers I had planted weren't doing well. Now I know, and I thank you for bringing this to light! Now I will question my sources for my animals, which I ignorantly didn't know that I needed to do.
@@DiegoFooter I'm super bummed! I contacted my hay, grass, and straw supplier, and they stated that unless organic items are purchased they can basically guarantee that herbicides are in fact used. 🤢 Some situations make sense now. I can't believe that this never occurred to me. I guess the only options are to wait years before I can use the areas and do some comparison tests. I sincerely thank you for bringing this to our attention. Thank you.
thank you so much for this info
I saw a video by Geoff Lawton explaining how, when hot composting those chemicals become inert. Do you know anything about this?
Thanks for your video
Not true. No science to back that up.
A lot of the popular no-till gardeners were putting out a lot of misinformation concerning this topic. Even Charles Dowding downplayed it until it happened to him, and that man is literally a saint. Just be cautious concerning anyone giving easy fixes to the issue.
Since the micro amounts of these herbicides can cause adverse effects on growth, do you think it would be possible to use a sample of straw mulch before is has been composted, to test for presence of aminopyralids in a bioassay ? I'm thinking about creating a slurry/tea from the baled straw I intend on using that to water or treat test plants? Thoughts?
Do you know if worms break the herbicides?
Not these ones.
@@DiegoFooter Thanks. But do I understand correctly, that if one leaves and organic matter around for a few years (3-5), those herbicides would decompose?
If composted would the heat kill herbicides?
😢 I'm so happy that the chemical companies are poisoning our food!More poisoned food means less hunger, fewer people and better profit for drug and chemical makers.
I'm about to watch yet another video touting the use of alfalfa feed as a fertilizer.
Are these chemicals are used on alfalfa?
It is made into hay, but I'm thinking it isn't actually a grass?
I think you should assume that anything could be sprayed unless it is certified organic.
" The vast majority of farmers spray their hayfields and pastures with herbicides for broadleaf weed control. Today’s hay customers expect weed-free sources of hay for their animals and farmers must meet the demand of their customers."
newswire.caes.uga.edu/story.html?storyid=4791&story=Herbicide-Transfer#:~:text=The%20vast%20majority%20of%20farmers,toxicity%20to%20humans%20and%20animals.
Alfalfa is not grass but if its not organic??
It’s harvested as hay, so it could be sprayed. Emphasis on could if not organic.
Alfalfa could definitely have sprays on it, but it won’t have the nastier persistent broadleaf herbicides because alfalfa is a broadleaf plant.
@@paulllhunterrio2169 - Perennial broadleaf weed management options for established alfalfa stands are very limited. A good alfalfa stand coupled with repeated mowing over several years can effectively deplete the root reserve of perennials such as bindweed, Canada thistle, hemp dogbane, johnsongrass, and milkweed.
Tomatoes will grow but never ripen. It totally sucked seeing Danny have to take out some of the prettiest tomatoes I've ever seen. The only way he could fix it was to dig it all out and refill with his own soil and remove all of that soil from his property
Remember when you could just use horse manure and not do due diligence. This guy is just victim blaming
I’m worried about it in our meat supply.
Scary stuff!
Does anyone know if this can make it through the manufacturing process of rabbit feeds?
It depends on what kind of rabbit feed you’re using, but almost none of it isn’t hay-based, so I’m almost certain that you’re good.
Just google what you’re using, contact someone if you need to, everything has been poisoned
Any studies about biochar remedies for herbicides?
Can worms break it down faster?
No.
Will it kill my young orange tree
So we are responsible for the government allowing conpanies to produce eco damaging products...
Do I need to worry about the alfalfa pellets I feed to my rabbits? I use rabbit manure on my garden.
Dunno, but this stuff seems to kill anything that's not grass. Alfalfa is a legume, so probably okay?
@@mibi2999good observation
I had a amazing garden. Then I used horse manure . The hay the horse had eaten was sprayed.
Of course the companies making these products operate on the basis that most hobby type people don't read everything listed on the packaging.
Buyer beware !!!!!!!!!!!
These chemicals should be banned.
How About telling us how to test for it?
I did. 😆
Terrifying
Yep, very disturbing
Are bagged alfalfa pellets safe ????
oh ffs this garbage is produced in ton quantities and is being used to 'salt' our fields and it is the users' fault of course...(sarcasm)
This is in your beef.
It's probably killing forests.
Talk about not seeing the big picture
There are some fungi that break down these herbicides.
Maybe, but not a lot of great information out there on this. Most of the information indicates these are very persistent.
1 microgram is not 1 millionth of a gram 1/1000000 wrong!
Micro is 3rd decimal behind zero...
1 microgram = 1 thousandth of a gram 1/1000 correct! ✔️
Wow! That's rather different to the SI system used by most Joe. [en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro-]
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