@@naturalnaela the visual we get of how worn down Nick was broke my heart. Notice how much better Katie’s delivery was and how easy it was for her to be uplifting despite commenting on his maturity level.
@@ethanmoneymuter7284 The advantage Nick and other contestants have is they can watch the episodes. Nick might have been accepting Hannah’s constant criticism and reacting in the moment. If he looks at the episodes I think he will see that she is over critical. He can take on board that he does need to be more self sufficient but discard the criticism that is not justified. I think Hannah is very insecure and she reacts to vulnerability in those around her Nick, her brother etc. I am happy to see them split up.
@@ethanmoneymuter7284 the epitome of a narcissist. Her low self esteem needs to feed on beating him down. Very self righteous and projecting all of his deficiencies when in reality they were hers.
OMG girl! I covered my mouth out of second hand embarrassed when Tyler said, ‘no, I don’t think the kids know me’. Like TF. 😳That response told me ALL I needed to know about Tyler. He is danger.
The audacitiy to lie to her face, even though the photos of him together with the kids, even wearing the same outfits, can be seen on instagram! He is a pathological lier, RUN, Ashley, RUN!! The poor kids, hearing him say, they don´t even know him and lying about his relationship to them being nonexistent is absolutely heartbreaking...
Urgh, Hannah is awful! Nick may not be perfect but he really didn't deserve to ge treated the way Hannah treated him. It was really uncomfortable to watch 😢
@@blessedaggie9159 I was defending bro hard but naw, he seems like you have to walk on egg shells around him. Hannah and him need to date to see what it’s like to date someone like that.
I agree! Alex may not be perfect but Tim was out of pocket. It's one thing to end things but the way he did it was rude. He was trying to hurt her feelings.
@@simplycleva I agree! I was soooo shocked!! Marissa is such a beautiful and wonderful girl with amazing energy that has probably been through so much trauma, for Ramses to not treat her with care broke my heart😭 he acts one way but when it comes to what HE wants or thinks nothing else matters apparently
Hannah has a narcissistic personality, I will die on this hill. I'm so happy Nicky D didn't marry that woman. She would have destroyed him even further. I was so happy that he stood his ground about the Katey conversation. Her friends are just as bad as she is, birds of a feather. The way she try to spin it like it was all Nick's fault at the end, really REALLY pissed me off.
@x_stayathome_x Right Hannah's friends are just a miserable as her. They did not witness what we saw. He couldn't do anything right and she continously made him feel like that. He truly loved her maybe a little playful but he tried his best and it wasn't enough for a narcissist
Absolutely 💯 Alex wasn't perfect but she was willing to work it out. So many people are blaming her it's disgusting. I was on his side from the first situation but He sat up there and talked to her father and acted like that. Like Alex said he has a communication problem and it comes of his way or no way. Marriage is about learning and compromise. He truly needs a therapist. Alex will work on herself and will be an amazing wife for someone else. Just clean her room like I have to do right now lol. She dodged a bullet. He has internal anger that he needs to work out before he dates anyone
Tim is the kind of person who keeps a mental note of every “offense” made toward him. Kinda like he’s building a case. And when he gets enough evidence as to why you’re a “bad” person he cuts you loose.
genuine question bc i think i do this, but isn’t that the way you’re supposed to date people? if they do enough things that you don’t necessarily like after you’ve tried and something happens where you’re on your last leg, you’re supposed to bow out no?
@@KungFuKenni8 ah the way he became cold about nothing out of nothing.... Not normal. Covert narc/avoidant as they coochie coochie call them now. I saw it from the first second. Yea i dated this types so i recognize them. Toxic.
@@KungFuKenni8 yes, but maybe talk about it first and see if the other person is willing to compromise. I think he was upset for small small things. He seemed very angry and unreasonable. Mad for nothing. How dare she nap when tired?!?!?
While Alex has her flaws, (we all do) Tim is a walking talking red flag. There was no need for him to be so harsh imo. I’m not saying he wasn’t making some valid points…I did think she could’ve helped him more when she was introducing him to her parents in the previous episode but if it bothered him in that moment then he should’ve never read that letter to her father.
@@BINFP literally just day to day life....he asked her questions about everything like she was homemaking with a 7 year old....that shit get tired REAL FAST 😂...man couldn't even make pasta without her coaching him the entire way .... exhausting
Naw Tim a clown for that you just gave her dad a great proposal made him cry and 2 days later because she fell asleep after talking to your parents for 4 hours WTH lol and didn’t wash dishes it’s over and you never want to see her again lol are we teenagers and she the one who likes to cuddle You can tell she was blindsided at how pissed he was about those small things
Hannah’s dating strategy is to break men down to have them feel low so they don’t leave her. As she knows her big back self isn’t anybody’s number one choice.
Exactly she throws out this story like she’s so soft and sensitive because her mom used to talk about her weight but here she is literally abusing people that she gets with and just like you said to make someone stay with her and feel like they can’t get better
Hannah was bordering verbally abusive. The number of disparaging words and put down she said to that man was uncomfortable. She is making it seems like she made him.
I honestly think that Ashley was going to marry him no matter what because she just wants to be married. He’s a liar and a manipulator, but I thank her for getting him off the streets 😭
Hannah and Zanab need to date. I'm a girl's girl and am feminist and I love us BUT that doesn't mean it's OK for insecure women to hurt good men. And Cole and Nick and very similar in that they're young, good looking, still figuring things out and maybe still not ready to commit 100% but overall are good guys. And they deserve better.
No, Tim is literally INSANE. Alex might not be perfect but she is nowhere near his level. And I'd bet my ass that he was also really bad in the first fight they had that wasn't filmed. He's a hardcore gaslighter
Tim was simply looking for a cop-out. He complains about her lack of communication, then proceeds to say that he doesn't feel like he needs to communicate to his future wife about the things he expects her to do. He was gaslighting her, trying to put all the blame on her. As if she was this terrible person. He was being condescending when saying, "Can I speak now? Are you gonna let me finish?" Probably wanted a reaction to be like, "See! This is why it's not going to work out". I'm glad he left because he needs to heal and get out of that victim mentality.
@@xro1983 That's why it annoys me that he acts so stuck up and bother with everything she does. It sounds like he also started their first fight in Mexico.
Can we talk about Hannah and her two friends gaslighting the SHIT out of nick?! Omg it was awful to watch I just want him to run so far away from her. She truly is not coming across like a kind person. She speaks to him as if she HATES him and then her and her friends making light about it saying “Hannah’s just a truth teller” “sometimes the truth is hard to hear” when nick literally takes every mean thing Hannah says on the chin and typically what we’ve seen, is him say something kind and encouraging back to her, validating whatever awful thing she just said to him, about him. I was sooo upset watching this lunch scene
Ramses is one of those people who are committed to causes they haven't really internalized which is why the current political climate is so dangerous. Some people GENUINELY don't realize they are being too thick until they get into a relationship.
Garret is testing her limit n boundaries, they do small things step by step to test your limit n break your boundaries , not only he lied about not replying he denied showing the text in his phone then try to gaslit her saying theres no difference
@@rediettadesse2828 omg I thought the same thing when I was watching it. I thought it was a real convenient for this to happen right before meeting her parents and the wedding. I felt like he was trying to see how much he can get away with and what she will allow in the relationship before they got married. I feel like Taylor is smart so hopefully she goes with her instincts!🤞🏽
Hannah was feeling insecure in the pods because Nick was so confident so she was surprised at the reveal that he didn’t look anything like he portrayed himself to be so I feel that Hannah took her insecurities on him by putting him down every time to make herself feel better.
I really feel this is why a lot of marriages fail, and why after long term marriages, some women divorce and never remarry. Some men literally feel that marriage gives them the right to expect sex upon demand. Doesn't matter how you physically feel, or if they aren't making you feel emotionally safe....some have to get it, or use the lack of it as an excuse to cheat or treat you badly. If that is going to be an issue for her, I suggest she carefully consider before marrying. She will definitely need a more patient man than Ramses.
Hannah seems to believe that shes better than Nick. However, she seems to feel threatened by Katie. The vim that she had for Nick was actually the frustrations she had for Katie but didnt feel empowered enough to challenge Katie 1-1. Its the classic case of how bullies pick on the least intimidating person at school because they are powerless and csnt confront people at home...
Bro did you see how Nick D almost cried when the other girl was complimenting him? Hannah did a number on him no ways. I understand Hannah’s frustration but there was zero compatibility. She did not like him, she complained so much about him to Ashley 😭 naaaaaaaahhhhhh
He didn’t love her so he just looked for reasons to break up. Looks like he didn’t want to come off as shallow and end things based solely off of physical attraction so he looked for things she did and end things on that note instead.
Tim was triggered hearing about his “temper tantrums”😂😭💀 and Hannah is so mean to Nick… she seriously reminds me of one of those mean girls from high school
I feel like both of them had a point in what they were talking about. However, Tim is overly sensitive, he seems to lacks emotional intelligence. I don't know if what they were talking about constituted a break up... even so, he could have delivered that in better way.
...yea... younknow what i see that. He did have like this weird ego about him. I kinda waved it off to be like a response to Alex's energy. Even though I felt she was dead wrong for that nap. I thought it could be worked through, but I also thought what he felt was also valid. He came correct with her family. She should have done the same. Both were valid but needed to be nicer.
I think Tim and Alex had a fight before that couch sit down. I’m sure Hannah stayed on the show for a check. More episodes more money. Btw the red flag had me dying😂
Ashley saying maybe after 5 years we could incorporate your kids sis what that kind of rubbed me the wrong way if I got into a relationship with someone who had children I’m going to incorporate them once that I found out about them duh
@@ivythegreat4943 exactly! She is a dumb ass to even “try” after the truth came out! And when she asked him, do they know what he looks like he said I don’t think so yet he all over the damn gram with pictures of them boy good night and goodbye!
@KariN-or3sc she also never knew he had kids until after the pods. She mentioned it wasn't something she envisioned for herself, so if she found out earlier, it might've been a deal breaker and wouldn't get as far as "falling in love with him" and getting engaged.
I feel like hannah has been dying to tell nicky d she didn't want to marry from the moment she set eyes on him. Instead of being honest from the start she tore this man down until he felt like nothing whilst making it seem like she tried to make it work nasty work! As for Tim something is wrong there for him to leave like that was just weird it seemed really petty. I feel so bad for Ashley A she is in for a rude awakening I just hope she doesn't marry Tyler
Dreads & a Jerri Curl?! Ramses needs to pick a struggle! And Tyler was just looking for a fool to pay his child support and by the looks of it he found one!
3:42 no. I don’t do shit tired. When I’m tired I’m like a ghost just stuck. I can barely think, have emotions, I just sit blankly trying to stay awake. So no. Dealing with cameras is like a job. Filming wrapped so I’m going to bed! Yall talk and I’ll see yall. Tmrw.
@EmperatrizNyhnaLaw yeah, I agree, I feel like some people don't understand how awful some people feel when they are tired, not everyone experiences the same level of fatigue
It’s funny because that’s the reason she did choose Ramsay, it was a sex thing I really wanted her to choose the other guy cause I feel they were more comfortable
I'm not sure why Tim's behavior toward Alex is funny. It was down right disrespectful. I completely agree they didn't make a good couple but his expectations of her didnt seem to be communicated and he took action based on his feelings without bringing things to her attention. That's not how u treat someone u so called love.
Tim scares me. The fact that SHE was eating! When he came in to break up and was insistent, she sat next to him. No, he should've sat at that table and spoken with her, but HE THINKS it is his way or the highway. When he said, "You don't get to dictate when we talk," because she was busy and called him back when she could. That scared me, ya'll! I could not be with him. I would never know if I was in trouble, if he wanted me to do the dishes or not. Because he doesn't talk. When he said in the breakup, "If I have to tell you these things, you are not the one for me." And Alex was right: "I'm not a mind reader." Alex is not perfect! I wouldn't have fallen asleep on my future in-laws, either, but for his anger to be this big and visceral?! Tim is triggering for me. I really need him to get help he's clearly in a lot of pain.
"I think you get treated like an equal when you start contributing like an equal." Says the unemployed person who wants him not to relax and watch sports after work, walk HER dog, take out the trash when she's there, and read in his free time when we didn't see anything since the show started. Everything she accused him of is what she is actually. She showed her ass thos season
I get Hannah probably has some self-esteem issues and you know how they say hurt people hurt people. All she does is sit around and bully people and talk trash about people but she’s so hurt that her parents talk trash about her. It’s like girl you’re doing the same thing that your mother was doing to you, sort it out and I do agree that Nick is childish all the more reason for her to leave him alone instead of verbally abusing him.
Touched out Nailed exactly how I’m feeling I couldn’t explain it and suppressed my postpartum depression until my daughter was 18 months old because I thought I had to be “strong”. Since expressing I’m still touched out. Being a stay at home mom I don’t have no time to myself and sexual encounters give me the ick.
Never seen anyone so preoccupied with “honor” as Tim. His own honor that is. She taking a nap made him turn totally Taliban nuts on her. Her honor didn’t matter to him. He indirectly called her selfish, lazy, low quality and poor wife material. Shame on him
I’m sorry, but Tim is messed up in the head. He didn’t have to do this. IMO he played her for revenge for what happened on the trip, and he brought her dad in on it too. Just psycho behavior.
Huh ? Revenge is such a drag. Tim gave it a chance and you can see that in how he interacts with her family. Her ? She could literally careless about his family. He’s right to feel that way, the hand of the mouth the being less than intentional are reasons to doubt how someone would be in a marriage.
Hannah saying at the lunch it’s fine if they don’t get married they can still be together BUT if HES the one to say no at the alter than they won’t be together is the prime example of Hannah’s selfishness. She is going to get this man up to the alter, guilt him into saying yes and then she’s going to say no in front of everyone to humiliate him. If he doesn’t leave her prior to the wedding, this is the most likely scenario. This poor man just needs to leave. She is manipulative ah
I haven't rewatched the og Ramses and Marissa conversation abt having kids so idk if maybe I'm misremembering and being harsh here, but it feels like everyone is giving Ramses a little too much grace. Marissa's mom is vile in the way she treated him, but that doesn't justify any of the shit he's been bringing up in private convos. The way he went about discussing "sex being pleasurable to both parties" to then a week later be considering not going through with the marriage bc she hasn't given any in a few days is telling imo. Seems like another "progressive" man that can't carry any of that empathy over to the women in their life. I'm not about to tell anyone how they should move, but I always find it weird when men are so insistent on having sex without a rubber, don't want kids at the moment and REFUSE to do anything to their own body to prevent it bc of the risk that their sperm has a chance of not being viable later on if they get a vasectomy. What's so significant about the male's role in baby making that you feel you absolutely need that part to have a loving family? It comes across as some kind of "bloodline" shenanigans. It's a personal decision and I'm sure as hell not advocating for any kind of restriction on what someone's decides is best for themselves and their family, but I still give side eye every time.
Wow. I saw the Nick Hannah thing differently. I did think Nick was flirting during his chat with Katie. And i thought his fight with Hannah later on was manipulation and lying by ommission when he said that conversation was nothing. It was nothing because Katie directed the conversation into nothing. He was being over flirty. I felt like Nick was gaslighting Hannah to where she felt like she was tripping. He sounded like a child with the "welll, im a man." (What did that mean for the conversation you had with Katie) "bet, didnt do shit" that was a lil off imo. Hannah is demeaning and toxic as well. She is immature in a different way. Ashley and Tim, i agree both not good and weirdly catty to each other. She was dead wrong for taking a nap in meeting his parents. She is just lazy and entitled. Why because she feels like she dont need to make a good impression. Her room was TERRIBLE and you KNOW that its apart of the process. Then that nap thing, thats shows little regard to ur partner. She aint ready for marriage. Tim... i think he's way more ready, but with the right person his draw backs is something that can be communicated through. Tyler Lied again. Its hard watch them now. Them kids know what he look like. He has met them and celebrated holidays but he a weirdo for lying like that.
I m agree 100% Nick is not a victim he is a manipulator who say word and doesn't think what he say and Hannah is a bullying person who try to make poeple as she want.
I m not agree with you on Tim I recognise his behaviour and it's the first sign when a man its violent man. It's exactly how an abuse relationship start. I m not agree she is valid to be tired we don't know if she don't have help conditions and she took effort to meet his parents.... if she felt she need to rest she is in her right if you push someone and be violente towards someone just because the person took a nap that a huge red flags. Poeple are not at your disposition they give what they can. TIM RED FLAG VIOLENT MAN. If just small think like this make him violent them imagine... And the way as well he left was putting the responsibility on Ashley she did nothing bad. And she is right if he don't communicate his need she can't reed in his mind that a red flag when someone make you feel guilty for their needs when they even didn't express them and push you into their way.
I don't know if you realise but Tim make Alex look like a horrible girl, and said he done the dishes 😂, when this is not specially a huge relationship effort. And he left her because she had a nap sorry but that it's a huge excuse, if you are not happy with someone lifestyle you can be more kind a compassionate don't need to make her feel the way she is, is wrong she is lovable with the fact she need everyday nap may she is in depression we don't know... he is not perfect neither but she accepted him when he was making heavy joke. No one is perfect and give as an excuse someone default to break, it's a huge red flag about who you are. No one is perfect and his mom told him.... I prefer my man sleep a lot than cheating on me or r*ping or being a criminal.
@Chrisler.thesweetera I dont see either of them bad in that conversation. I do think it's okay to be so off by and to end a relationship because of that parent thing. I think the way Tim did was harsh and I can see him having a militant personality. He is quick to walk away and disconnect. They weren't right for each other. I do see parts of Tim's dog personality. Something he needs to work on, he claims he wants someone to bite back, but I don't see it being true.
Strike 1 : Her behavior on the honeymoon, calling him out his name, and putting her hands on him Strike 2: Her Apartment & the filthy way she displayed herself to the viewers. Strike 3: Strike 3 - Not reciprocating the effort he put in when he meet her family. He may have had a dramatic delivery given the loss his family has experience. Saying we can both agree I never want to see you again is too extreame of a statement. No need to be a dick about it, they just weren't a good match.
Once someone brings god into it…. Sir so basically what happened with Tyler part of the story is true but he definitely was a hands-on dad with all three of the kids even worked on a relationship with the woman. He had a child with and then once that he got on the show, he cut all of them off I believe the grandmother posted text messages of her reaching out to him
Good perspectives. Thank you for sharing your content. At this point this show cannot even be considered reality. It’s just regular ppl getting exploited for 15 minutes of fame. That’s the only reality I see. And that is truly sad to witness. Sheesh.
It’s not a conversation if you’re constantly cutting me off or just waiting for me to stop talking so you can get your point across. I deal with people like this all the time, and then they wonder why I don’t want to talk to them. Self unawareness is high among the human race.
I completely agree with you on all of these, especially with Tim and Alex. Most people say he was an #%ss but I think she was just downright nasty, I mean her apt. Was a big sign about where she is at in life. He should have said no then.
03:49 I'm sorry but 4 hours for the first meeting, I would say is a little too much. If I had to meet my fiance parents, make my best impression to them and do it on camera. I would be totally worn out after 2 hours. And having a little nap after 4 hours of communication is understandable Even from parents perspective, spend 10 hours on the road and then 4 talking to Alex and Tim. I bet everyone just breathed a sigh of relief. When it was over... except Tim
I knew hannah and nick wasnt going to last when they first met. When they were returning back to the pod she didnt look bad and he looked so sad that she didnt.
Tim is still a boy. He has a lot of growing up to do and not mature enough to be in a relationship. I hope he watches this season back and grows from it. I really think she wouldve fought to help him grow into a man but he made the decision for them....she dodged a bullet....everything happens for a reason.
So far, at the begiyof episode 10 , Tim is a b….he needs to marry himself. He has no compassion for his fiancée. There is a lack of willingness to compromise. She showed so much restraint plenty of people would have said up your rear end to him and then been thankfully gone. They are not a match and he continues to show who he is, she should thank her lucky stars and be happy to move on. She deserves better than a person that wants a silent partner.
Imagine the backlash if Nick bullied Hannah the way she does it to him.
@@miniq6071 exactly.
Oh people would be in an uproar. That’s why I said when women are manipulative, they get a pass.
💯 shes was so bad to that man. Shes extremely masculine to me .
@@naturalnaela the visual we get of how worn down Nick was broke my heart. Notice how much better Katie’s delivery was and how easy it was for her to be uplifting despite commenting on his maturity level.
@@AnimalsDressedasHumans yeah. Katie did an excellent job of explaining
Hannah is a weirdo. Took a nervous man without huge self esteem and broke him down.
@@ethanmoneymuter7284 The advantage Nick and other contestants have is they can watch the episodes. Nick might have been accepting Hannah’s constant criticism and reacting in the moment. If he looks at the episodes I think he will see that she is over critical. He can take on board that he does need to be more self sufficient but discard the criticism that is not justified. I think Hannah is very insecure and she reacts to vulnerability in those around her Nick, her brother etc. I am happy to see them split up.
@@ethanmoneymuter7284 the epitome of a narcissist. Her low self esteem needs to feed on beating him down. Very self righteous and projecting all of his deficiencies when in reality they were hers.
He looks like he hv some issues too
@@rediettadesse2828 We all have issues. However, trying to break someone down and acting like you’re perfect is a problem. It’s called projection.
@@CornellG I can see that , i think she was kinda rude
OMG girl! I covered my mouth out of second hand embarrassed when Tyler said, ‘no, I don’t think the kids know me’. Like TF. 😳That response told me ALL I needed to know about Tyler. He is danger.
@@LilyCalla24 I had to watch that clip WITH captions on to believe that man had the nerve to say that on camera. I am praying Ashley says no.
The audacitiy to lie to her face, even though the photos of him together with the kids, even wearing the same outfits, can be seen on instagram! He is a pathological lier, RUN, Ashley, RUN!! The poor kids, hearing him say, they don´t even know him and lying about his relationship to them being nonexistent is absolutely heartbreaking...
Urgh, Hannah is awful! Nick may not be perfect but he really didn't deserve to ge treated the way Hannah treated him. It was really uncomfortable to watch 😢
he deserve worse
Yes! She’s made herself even more unattractive than I initially thought when I recognized her personality. Just uggghh!
@@aleksandrac198 why is that? She deserves to be alone!
Tyler lying as if his kids won’t see this one day and feel a certain way. That’s low and a big character and integrity issue.
If someone is sick for 3-4 days, why would you even want to have sex with a sick person?! That’s gross 🤮🤮
Ahahaha men r high libidos 😂😂😂 very sexual beings
Men are very sexual beings
Men r sexual hahahhahaha 😂
Men are like this it's thier nature they're super sexual beings
Who tf is deleting my comment tho 😅😂
Tim is too rigid, passive aggressive, and dealing with abandonment issues so he pushes women away. Needs therapy or be single bro.
@@CornellG Bingo…I saw this from the very beginning!!
I agree and will add that Alex needs therapy too.
Alex has her own issues but Tim😅 joh...that guy is pain in the a$#...I once had someone like that, always finding mistakes
@@blessedaggie9159 I was defending bro hard but naw, he seems like you have to walk on egg shells around him. Hannah and him need to date to see what it’s like to date someone like that.
I agree! Alex may not be perfect but Tim was out of pocket. It's one thing to end things but the way he did it was rude. He was trying to hurt her feelings.
Blaming someone for going to sleep after talking to them for four hours is so crazy like I already knew they weren’t gonna work out
Rams was a jacka$$ for being mad at Marissa not wanting to have sex when she wasn’t feeling well.
@@simplycleva I agree! I was soooo shocked!! Marissa is such a beautiful and wonderful girl with amazing energy that has probably been through so much trauma, for Ramses to not treat her with care broke my heart😭 he acts one way but when it comes to what HE wants or thinks nothing else matters apparently
Hannah puts on a costume of a girlboss while being narcissistic 🥲
I've never heard somebody call themselves mature so much in my life.
Hannah has a narcissistic personality, I will die on this hill. I'm so happy Nicky D didn't marry that woman. She would have destroyed him even further. I was so happy that he stood his ground about the Katey conversation. Her friends are just as bad as she is, birds of a feather. The way she try to spin it like it was all Nick's fault at the end, really REALLY pissed me off.
This!!!
I was glad that they didn't marry. I felt so bad for him watching what she put him through and the way she talked to and about him
@x_stayathome_x Right Hannah's friends are just a miserable as her. They did not witness what we saw. He couldn't do anything right and she continously made him feel like that. He truly loved her maybe a little playful but he tried his best and it wasn't enough for a narcissist
I bet they're all still single.
I'm glad he stood his ground too...💯
Tim needs therapy and is a walking red flag.
Absolutely 💯 Alex wasn't perfect but she was willing to work it out. So many people are blaming her it's disgusting. I was on his side from the first situation but He sat up there and talked to her father and acted like that. Like Alex said he has a communication problem and it comes of his way or no way. Marriage is about learning and compromise. He truly needs a therapist. Alex will work on herself and will be an amazing wife for someone else. Just clean her room like I have to do right now lol. She dodged a bullet. He has internal anger that he needs to work out before he dates anyone
Tim is the kind of person who keeps a mental note of every “offense” made toward him. Kinda like he’s building a case. And when he gets enough evidence as to why you’re a “bad” person he cuts you loose.
yep like trump and other tyrants
genuine question bc i think i do this, but isn’t that the way you’re supposed to date people? if they do enough things that you don’t necessarily like after you’ve tried and something happens where you’re on your last leg, you’re supposed to bow out no?
@@KungFuKenni8 ah the way he became cold about nothing out of nothing....
Not normal.
Covert narc/avoidant as they coochie coochie call them now.
I saw it from the first second.
Yea i dated this types so i recognize them.
Toxic.
I don’t see the issue..
@@KungFuKenni8 yes, but maybe talk about it first and see if the other person is willing to compromise. I think he was upset for small small things. He seemed very angry and unreasonable. Mad for nothing. How dare she nap when tired?!?!?
Hannah hates herself hence why she was hard on him. She was just deflecting her own insecurities and I feel for Nick I really do
Bingo.
Exactly, she was jealous also in a weird way, like of his up bringing
She’s unhappy with herself so she wanted to make him unhappy, she needs therapy
Seeing the way Hannah talk and act , I wish she would have said yes to Leo. Leo would not have taken the foolish Nick is taking.
Tyler is a horrible liar. If your friends can’t afford a sperm donor, they can’t afford to have a child! Make it make sense!
Let alone, three kids. One more lie...
oh please poor ppl have kids everhyday1
Tim = mean
Hannah = vicious
While Alex has her flaws, (we all do) Tim is a walking talking red flag. There was no need for him to be so harsh imo. I’m not saying he wasn’t making some valid points…I did think she could’ve helped him more when she was introducing him to her parents in the previous episode but if it bothered him in that moment then he should’ve never read that letter to her father.
He didn’t love her and he didn’t care about her so he just did each other a favor and ended the suffering.
Four hours is enough. Tim and his parents need to get a grip. Also. Hanna doesn’t work, so what does she mean he needs to contribute? 😅
I’ve napped at all of my friend’s parents houses 😂 like it’s ok to be tired. Four hrs would’ve did me in.
He puts a lot of the mental load on her for day to day things
@@femdivinemind7777 What like laundry folding? 😅
@@BINFP literally just day to day life....he asked her questions about everything like she was homemaking with a 7 year old....that shit get tired REAL FAST 😂...man couldn't even make pasta without her coaching him the entire way .... exhausting
To walking her dog I guess
Naw Tim a clown for that you just gave her dad a great proposal made him cry and 2 days later because she fell asleep after talking to your parents for 4 hours WTH lol and didn’t wash dishes it’s over and you never want to see her again lol are we teenagers and she the one who likes to cuddle
You can tell she was blindsided at how pissed he was about those small things
Hannah’s dating strategy is to break men down to have them feel low so they don’t leave her. As she knows her big back self isn’t anybody’s number one choice.
Exactly she throws out this story like she’s so soft and sensitive because her mom used to talk about her weight but here she is literally abusing people that she gets with and just like you said to make someone stay with her and feel like they can’t get better
She knew we would come for her and thats why she lost weight.
😂 Big Back is right !!!
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Karma spent the block because she in jail and facing time and legal trouble🤷🏽♀️🤌🏼
Ramses needs to be on a watchlist or a registry or something. He legitimately scares me😂
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Literally. I don’t know how others take this man seriously on any level
Why does he scare you
Hannah was bordering verbally abusive. The number of disparaging words and put down she said to that man was uncomfortable. She is making it seems like she made him.
@@JhoJhoMojo it’s not bordering it IS verbally abusive.
Like from a boy to a man in 30 days is crazy
Justice for Nick
Yep, he's so lovely ❤
I honestly think that Ashley was going to marry him no matter what because she just wants to be married. He’s a liar and a manipulator, but I thank her for getting him off the streets 😭
@@miarasimpson112 lol this is such a funny way of looking at the situation.
@@jessica-sr6gp lol I try to look on the bright side
😂 taking him out of the dating pool
Hannah and Zanab need to date. I'm a girl's girl and am feminist and I love us BUT that doesn't mean it's OK for insecure women to hurt good men. And Cole and Nick and very similar in that they're young, good looking, still figuring things out and maybe still not ready to commit 100% but overall are good guys. And they deserve better.
These reality “love” shows make me feel better about being single right now!! LOL! 😂😂😂😂
No, Tim is literally INSANE. Alex might not be perfect but she is nowhere near his level. And I'd bet my ass that he was also really bad in the first fight they had that wasn't filmed. He's a hardcore gaslighter
He's a very angry man and he needs therapy.
Agreed
he's so immature and insecure
Tim was simply looking for a cop-out.
He complains about her lack of communication, then proceeds to say that he doesn't feel like he needs to communicate to his future wife about the things he expects her to do.
He was gaslighting her, trying to put all the blame on her. As if she was this terrible person. He was being condescending when saying, "Can I speak now? Are you gonna let me finish?" Probably wanted a reaction to be like, "See! This is why it's not going to work out".
I'm glad he left because he needs to heal and get out of that victim mentality.
He didn’t like her the second he saw her. He wanted out as soon as he saw her
@@xro1983 That's why it annoys me that he acts so stuck up and bother with everything she does. It sounds like he also started their first fight in Mexico.
Tim was done from he saw the state of her apartment 😂
@@regularity2556 Tim seems closeted to me so he was looking for any out.
@@calikeisha365 about time someone else said it. My guy's wrist seem a tad broke.
@@regularity2556 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Can we talk about Hannah and her two friends gaslighting the SHIT out of nick?! Omg it was awful to watch I just want him to run so far away from her. She truly is not coming across like a kind person. She speaks to him as if she HATES him and then her and her friends making light about it saying “Hannah’s just a truth teller” “sometimes the truth is hard to hear” when nick literally takes every mean thing Hannah says on the chin and typically what we’ve seen, is him say something kind and encouraging back to her, validating whatever awful thing she just said to him, about him. I was sooo upset watching this lunch scene
Ramses is one of those people who are committed to causes they haven't really internalized which is why the current political climate is so dangerous. Some people GENUINELY don't realize they are being too thick until they get into a relationship.
He's crazy and gives Shalimar vibes . Marissa needs to run
Garret is testing her limit n boundaries, they do small things step by step to test your limit n break your boundaries ,
not only he lied about not replying he denied showing the text in his phone then try to gaslit her saying theres no difference
Yea wtf was that. These men right now.🫣
@@LAtttiful I know... men 🙄🙄🙄
@@rediettadesse2828 omg I thought the same thing when I was watching it. I thought it was a real convenient for this to happen right before meeting her parents and the wedding. I felt like he was trying to see how much he can get away with and what she will allow in the relationship before they got married. I feel like Taylor is smart so hopefully she goes with her instincts!🤞🏽
Hannah was feeling insecure in the pods because Nick was so confident so she was surprised at the reveal that he didn’t look anything like he portrayed himself to be so I feel that Hannah took her insecurities on him by putting him down every time to make herself feel better.
I really feel this is why a lot of marriages fail, and why after long term marriages, some women divorce and never remarry. Some men literally feel that marriage gives them the right to expect sex upon demand. Doesn't matter how you physically feel, or if they aren't making you feel emotionally safe....some have to get it, or use the lack of it as an excuse to cheat or treat you badly. If that is going to be an issue for her, I suggest she carefully consider before marrying. She will definitely need a more patient man than Ramses.
I think Alex handled herself with grace. This man was nasty and small minded !!! She probably felt he wasn't worth it and acted accordingly.
Hannah seems to believe that shes better than Nick. However, she seems to feel threatened by Katie. The vim that she had for Nick was actually the frustrations she had for Katie but didnt feel empowered enough to challenge Katie 1-1.
Its the classic case of how bullies pick on the least intimidating person at school because they are powerless and csnt confront people at home...
Bro did you see how Nick D almost cried when the other girl was complimenting him? Hannah did a number on him no ways. I understand Hannah’s frustration but there was zero compatibility. She did not like him, she complained so much about him to Ashley 😭 naaaaaaaahhhhhh
No it’s not about Tim saying no, it’s how unnecessarily harsh he was.
exactly!
GIRL IT WAS JUST UPLOADED! LMAO How do you have a whole video edited and uploaded this fast! lol
I watch REALLY fast 🤣🤣
Tim is so passive aggressive and weird
He didn’t love her so he just looked for reasons to break up. Looks like he didn’t want to come off as shallow and end things based solely off of physical attraction so he looked for things she did and end things on that note instead.
They spoke for four hours?! Thats ENOUGH wtf??? 🥴
Listening to him to understand what? She talked to his parents for 4 hours he want too much
That’s what happened when Tim said the kids haven’t seen him. I yelled so loud the cat came to check on me😂😂😂
Tim was triggered hearing about his “temper tantrums”😂😭💀 and Hannah is so mean to Nick… she seriously reminds me of one of those mean girls from high school
I feel bad for alex she doesnt deserve it whats wrong with men ? She dodged a bullet the way he was smirking at her
Somebody said he seems like he listens to podcast bros and I haven't seen him the same sense
@BINFP like the alpha men thing ?
I feel like both of them had a point in what they were talking about. However, Tim is overly sensitive, he seems to lacks emotional intelligence. I don't know if what they were talking about constituted a break up... even so, he could have delivered that in better way.
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...yea... younknow what i see that. He did have like this weird ego about him. I kinda waved it off to be like a response to Alex's energy. Even though I felt she was dead wrong for that nap. I thought it could be worked through, but I also thought what he felt was also valid. He came correct with her family. She should have done the same. Both were valid but needed to be nicer.
I cant tolerate tim this man is controlling sis run
So agree.
Ashley's mum looks like a model. Very beautiful. 🤩
I think Tim and Alex had a fight before that couch sit down. I’m sure Hannah stayed on the show for a check. More episodes more money. Btw the red flag had me dying😂
Being touched out is so real. Literally never knew it was a thing BUT it's real and awful. Literally don't get a second to breathe...
Im rooting for Nick !
He deserves true love with a kind person, not Hannah
Ashley saying maybe after 5 years we could incorporate your kids sis what that kind of rubbed me the wrong way if I got into a relationship with someone who had children I’m going to incorporate them once that I found out about them duh
@@ivythegreat4943 exactly! She is a dumb ass to even “try” after the truth came out! And when she asked him, do they know what he looks like he said I don’t think so yet he all over the damn gram with pictures of them boy good night and goodbye!
But she doesn’t know that’s the situation right now. At this point in the show, she believes he has nothing to do with those kids.
@KariN-or3sc she also never knew he had kids until after the pods. She mentioned it wasn't something she envisioned for herself, so if she found out earlier, it might've been a deal breaker and wouldn't get as far as "falling in love with him" and getting engaged.
I feel like hannah has been dying to tell nicky d she didn't want to marry from the moment she set eyes on him. Instead of being honest from the start she tore this man down until he felt like nothing whilst making it seem like she tried to make it work nasty work!
As for Tim something is wrong there for him to leave like that was just weird it seemed really petty.
I feel so bad for Ashley A she is in for a rude awakening I just hope she doesn't marry Tyler
Dreads & a Jerri Curl?! Ramses needs to pick a struggle! And Tyler was just looking for a fool to pay his child support and by the looks of it he found one!
3:42 no. I don’t do shit tired. When I’m tired I’m like a ghost just stuck. I can barely think, have emotions, I just sit blankly trying to stay awake. So no. Dealing with cameras is like a job. Filming wrapped so I’m going to bed! Yall talk and I’ll see yall. Tmrw.
@EmperatrizNyhnaLaw yeah, I agree, I feel like some people don't understand how awful some people feel when they are tired, not everyone experiences the same level of fatigue
Hannah started a fight and was too drunk to finish it 😂
It’s funny because that’s the reason she did choose Ramsay, it was a sex thing I really wanted her to choose the other guy cause I feel they were more comfortable
your commentary is spot on
The way i screamed at my screen..these men are all LIARS!!! Drove me to drink fr
I'm not sure why Tim's behavior toward Alex is funny. It was down right disrespectful. I completely agree they didn't make a good couple but his expectations of her didnt seem to be communicated and he took action based on his feelings without bringing things to her attention. That's not how u treat someone u so called love.
Exactly why is she laughing and defending him? This chick is weird
That was “Damn” moment 😂 and I agree he at least said it before wedding day…not what you say but how you say it though lol
Poor Ashley... Girl RUNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!
Love love love your videos. Keep it up. And thanks for all the hard work🎉
Thank you so much for expressing my thoughts!!! You were spot on to me!!!
Tim scares me. The fact that SHE was eating! When he came in to break up and was insistent, she sat next to him. No, he should've sat at that table and spoken with her, but HE THINKS it is his way or the highway. When he said, "You don't get to dictate when we talk," because she was busy and called him back when she could. That scared me, ya'll! I could not be with him. I would never know if I was in trouble, if he wanted me to do the dishes or not. Because he doesn't talk. When he said in the breakup, "If I have to tell you these things, you are not the one for me." And Alex was right: "I'm not a mind reader." Alex is not perfect! I wouldn't have fallen asleep on my future in-laws, either, but for his anger to be this big and visceral?! Tim is triggering for me. I really need him to get help he's clearly in a lot of pain.
Take my word for it" I. Don't. See. Any. Of. These. Couple. Surviving. In. Real. World."
i’m sorry alex not helping at all when her parents came is crazy to me. i would’ve crashed out over the dishes too
Hannah is way too controlling, at least as depicted. This is probably the worst mis-match on LIB I think I have seen.
Hey girl...love your commentaries...you is SMART, you is HILARIOUS 🤣🤣 please do one on LIB HABIBI. Pretty please 😊
"I think you get treated like an equal when you start contributing like an equal." Says the unemployed person who wants him not to relax and watch sports after work, walk HER dog, take out the trash when she's there, and read in his free time when we didn't see anything since the show started. Everything she accused him of is what she is actually. She showed her ass thos season
I get Hannah probably has some self-esteem issues and you know how they say hurt people hurt people. All she does is sit around and bully people and talk trash about people but she’s so hurt that her parents talk trash about her. It’s like girl you’re doing the same thing that your mother was doing to you, sort it out and I do agree that Nick is childish all the more reason for her to leave him alone instead of verbally abusing him.
Touched out Nailed exactly how I’m feeling I couldn’t explain it and suppressed my postpartum depression until my daughter was 18 months old because I thought I had to be “strong”. Since expressing I’m still touched out. Being a stay at home mom I don’t have no time to myself and sexual encounters give me the ick.
Hannah probably thought that being a big girl was going to be something he would judge her on but he seems like a genuinely kind person.
Ramses and Hannah are horrible people. Tim/Drake has issues but I just feel like he might be a tiny bit on the spectrum
Never seen anyone so preoccupied with “honor” as Tim. His own honor that is. She taking a nap made him turn totally Taliban nuts on her. Her honor didn’t matter to him. He indirectly called her selfish, lazy, low quality and poor wife material. Shame on him
I’m sorry, but Tim is messed up in the head. He didn’t have to do this. IMO he played her for revenge for what happened on the trip, and he brought her dad in on it too. Just psycho behavior.
Huh ? Revenge is such a drag. Tim gave it a chance and you can see that in how he interacts with her family. Her ? She could literally careless about his family. He’s right to feel that way, the hand of the mouth the being less than intentional are reasons to doubt how someone would be in a marriage.
Alex dodged a bullet. ✌
Hannah saying at the lunch it’s fine if they don’t get married they can still be together BUT if HES the one to say no at the alter than they won’t be together is the prime example of Hannah’s selfishness. She is going to get this man up to the alter, guilt him into saying yes and then she’s going to say no in front of everyone to humiliate him. If he doesn’t leave her prior to the wedding, this is the most likely scenario. This poor man just needs to leave. She is manipulative ah
I haven't rewatched the og Ramses and Marissa conversation abt having kids so idk if maybe I'm misremembering and being harsh here, but it feels like everyone is giving Ramses a little too much grace. Marissa's mom is vile in the way she treated him, but that doesn't justify any of the shit he's been bringing up in private convos. The way he went about discussing "sex being pleasurable to both parties" to then a week later be considering not going through with the marriage bc she hasn't given any in a few days is telling imo. Seems like another "progressive" man that can't carry any of that empathy over to the women in their life.
I'm not about to tell anyone how they should move, but I always find it weird when men are so insistent on having sex without a rubber, don't want kids at the moment and REFUSE to do anything to their own body to prevent it bc of the risk that their sperm has a chance of not being viable later on if they get a vasectomy. What's so significant about the male's role in baby making that you feel you absolutely need that part to have a loving family? It comes across as some kind of "bloodline" shenanigans. It's a personal decision and I'm sure as hell not advocating for any kind of restriction on what someone's decides is best for themselves and their family, but I still give side eye every time.
Hannah’s only true love will ever be Little Debbie
@@scottschendel1223 aka big Deborah
@@charmainelcook 😂
Loving the hair of course! 💜 Great review… Rams is starting to show his true colors 👀
Wow. I saw the Nick Hannah thing differently. I did think Nick was flirting during his chat with Katie. And i thought his fight with Hannah later on was manipulation and lying by ommission when he said that conversation was nothing. It was nothing because Katie directed the conversation into nothing. He was being over flirty. I felt like Nick was gaslighting Hannah to where she felt like she was tripping. He sounded like a child with the "welll, im a man." (What did that mean for the conversation you had with Katie) "bet, didnt do shit" that was a lil off imo.
Hannah is demeaning and toxic as well. She is immature in a different way.
Ashley and Tim, i agree both not good and weirdly catty to each other. She was dead wrong for taking a nap in meeting his parents. She is just lazy and entitled. Why because she feels like she dont need to make a good impression. Her room was TERRIBLE and you KNOW that its apart of the process. Then that nap thing, thats shows little regard to ur partner. She aint ready for marriage.
Tim... i think he's way more ready, but with the right person his draw backs is something that can be communicated through.
Tyler Lied again. Its hard watch them now. Them kids know what he look like. He has met them and celebrated holidays but he a weirdo for lying like that.
I m agree 100% Nick is not a victim he is a manipulator who say word and doesn't think what he say and Hannah is a bullying person who try to make poeple as she want.
I m not agree with you on Tim I recognise his behaviour and it's the first sign when a man its violent man. It's exactly how an abuse relationship start. I m not agree she is valid to be tired we don't know if she don't have help conditions and she took effort to meet his parents.... if she felt she need to rest she is in her right if you push someone and be violente towards someone just because the person took a nap that a huge red flags. Poeple are not at your disposition they give what they can. TIM RED FLAG VIOLENT MAN. If just small think like this make him violent them imagine...
And the way as well he left was putting the responsibility on Ashley she did nothing bad. And she is right if he don't communicate his need she can't reed in his mind that a red flag when someone make you feel guilty for their needs when they even didn't express them and push you into their way.
I don't know if you realise but Tim make Alex look like a horrible girl, and said he done the dishes 😂, when this is not specially a huge relationship effort. And he left her because she had a nap sorry but that it's a huge excuse, if you are not happy with someone lifestyle you can be more kind a compassionate don't need to make her feel the way she is, is wrong she is lovable with the fact she need everyday nap may she is in depression we don't know... he is not perfect neither but she accepted him when he was making heavy joke. No one is perfect and give as an excuse someone default to break, it's a huge red flag about who you are. No one is perfect and his mom told him.... I prefer my man sleep a lot than cheating on me or r*ping or being a criminal.
Thank you! I do not feel bad for that man at all! He’s a liar, egotistical and very immature.
@Chrisler.thesweetera I dont see either of them bad in that conversation. I do think it's okay to be so off by and to end a relationship because of that parent thing. I think the way Tim did was harsh and I can see him having a militant personality. He is quick to walk away and disconnect. They weren't right for each other.
I do see parts of Tim's dog personality. Something he needs to work on, he claims he wants someone to bite back, but I don't see it being true.
Strike 1 : Her behavior on the honeymoon, calling him out his name, and putting her hands on him
Strike 2: Her Apartment & the filthy way she displayed herself to the viewers.
Strike 3: Strike 3 - Not reciprocating the effort he put in when he meet her family.
He may have had a dramatic delivery given the loss his family has experience. Saying we can both agree I never want to see you again is too extreame of a statement. No need to be a dick about it, they just weren't a good match.
Once someone brings god into it…. Sir so basically what happened with Tyler part of the story is true but he definitely was a hands-on dad with all three of the kids even worked on a relationship with the woman. He had a child with and then once that he got on the show, he cut all of them off I believe the grandmother posted text messages of her reaching out to him
Good perspectives. Thank you for sharing your content.
At this point this show cannot even be considered reality. It’s just regular ppl getting exploited for 15 minutes of fame. That’s the only reality I see. And that is truly sad to witness. Sheesh.
I’ve had kids and also have severe asthma pms. I either feel like having someone put their entire body weight on me or stay far away from me.
5:20 and Hannah CANNOT get over it. She is competition with him
Im new to your channel you’re so adorable
Nick deserves better!
Great review
It’s not a conversation if you’re constantly cutting me off or just waiting for me to stop talking so you can get your point across. I deal with people like this all the time, and then they wonder why I don’t want to talk to them. Self unawareness is high among the human race.
😂 i would have gifted Marissas mum a free therapy session after that meet up. Flowers 😂
I completely agree with you on all of these, especially with Tim and Alex. Most people say he was an #%ss but I think she was just downright nasty, I mean her apt. Was a big sign about where she is at in life. He should have said no then.
03:49 I'm sorry but 4 hours for the first meeting, I would say is a little too much. If I had to meet my fiance parents, make my best impression to them and do it on camera. I would be totally worn out after 2 hours.
And having a little nap after 4 hours of communication is understandable
Even from parents perspective, spend 10 hours on the road and then 4 talking to Alex and Tim. I bet everyone just breathed a sigh of relief. When it was over... except Tim
I knew hannah and nick wasnt going to last when they first met. When they were returning back to the pod she didnt look bad and he looked so sad that she didnt.
Hannah is horrible. I wish Nick would’ve gave her just a little bit back what she gave to him.
agree, tim is a coward and disgusting bully
Tim is still a boy. He has a lot of growing up to do and not mature enough to be in a relationship. I hope he watches this season back and grows from it. I really think she wouldve fought to help him grow into a man but he made the decision for them....she dodged a bullet....everything happens for a reason.
Rasmey's should go straight to jail & I just noticed Tyler look hard LEFT right before he lied to Ashely! That's the tell!!!!
Tyler opening his mouth at all is a tell that he's lying
So far, at the begiyof episode 10 , Tim is a b….he needs to marry himself. He has no compassion for his fiancée. There is a lack of willingness to compromise. She showed so much restraint plenty of people would have said up your rear end to him and then been thankfully gone. They are not a match and he continues to show who he is, she should thank her lucky stars and be happy to move on. She deserves better than a person that wants a silent partner.