@@TheGreatBookofGrudges *Aw, I'm sad. No Halfling Legendary Lord?* What about that wagon train cook who beat some Orc Warboss with a cooking pot? Oh well , I'll slink back to the chaos wastes then to cry a little. :)
Another good idea for a video would be covering legendary lord possibilities outside of 8th ed, there really are a lot of winners in supplemental material like Elspeth von Draken and such.
I've been reading the Gotrek and Felix books and Malachi Makaisson for the dwarfs would be hype as hell ingame. Thunderbarges, man, frickin war zeppelins.
As far as lore and content speculations are concerned you just might be the single most active content producer of the entire community right now. Congrats ^^
Do you guys wanna see complete videos on each race? We'll be here for days! Even with all I've mentioned we've probably only done around 10%ish? 8th had a bunch of new characters but there were so many more on other editions, supplements and so on :)
@@TheGreatBookofGrudges i do think you should cover the races. They add context to other videos you make for newer people...that and you might have something ive never heard before which would be great
I would see the Sisters of Twilight implemented in a way that borrows mechanics from both Gotrek & Felix, and Malus Darkblade. Naestra could be a lord, while Arahan would be a hero that cannot be detached from Naestra's army. Arahan would probably have some sort of rampage-esqe trait where she acts extremely aggressively, and Naestra would gain that trait if Arahan is wounded in battle. If only one of the two is wounded in battle, they automatically heal after the battle ends (so you have to wound both in the same battle to actually wound them). This uses mostly existing mechanics (so it's easy to implement) and it seems like a reasonable way to adapt their unique mechanics to TWW. I'd love to see them and/or Drycha as FLC lords for Laurelorn and/or Heart of the Jungle whenever we finally get that Wood Elf rework. Great video as always!
@Melkhiordarkblade It just feels kind of forced. They are actually two separate entities that can be in different spots on the battlefield. I get that that was done with Skarsnik but Gobbla is literally his pet and it's entirely reasonable that Gobbla would never leave his side in battle. That's just not how Naestra & Arahan operate. Anyway, the upshot is I think N&A and Drycha would both we way more interesting than Araloth, who would essentially be just a LL version of a Glade Lord. Plus Araloth would almost definitely start in Talsyn as an alternative LL for an already playable faction, while N&A and Drycha could both plausibly be made the LL of any faction, including the two wood elf factions outside of Athel Loren. Adding a LL to those locations is much more interesting to me.
@@TheGreatBookofGrudges I don't think Konrad would be a good choice. The vampire wars books were written before they had the different blood lines as a thing and Konrad basically filled what is now the Blood Dragons stickh. He was crap at magic, not great at ruling but good at melee combat. I'd rather aborash, red duke or Harkon. Also Konrad would talk to the heads of his slain enemies because he was a little mad. Queek does that too (queek head taker) and carries the skulls with him on his back. So anything Konrad's good at, other lords do better. Also, he's another sylvanian Vampire, I'd much rather the Blood dragons be out and around and have more interesting start options
hes only doing 8th edition book characters but she would be a big contender Arloth was only realy made to carry the elves into age of sigma and Drydra is is interesting but kinda limited as she hates the wood elves.
If they add more ship faring lords into Warhammer to go against the Vampire Coast and Lokhir, then there's everyone from Dreadfleet but I don't know if they'll do that.
During this whole mess that’s been happening, I’ve been swamped at work latley, and everyday like clockwork your videos are posted during my lunch break. Thanks for putting out great content and helping everyone through this brother !
Sisters of twilight are my no.1 pick, they would be so interesting! I think they should just be a very small unit, so when the units hit x health one model dies, they cant heal until they can be re recruited on the campain map again :). Thanks for the video!
I can see quite a few being implemented sooner or later. IIRC, the devs really want to do Prince Apophas but are struggling to get a properly animated model for him. Also the devs said Thanquol is not going to be in the TWW2 docket (in a "please stop asking" way), hinting towards TWW3 plans. Predicting Throt the Unclean leading Clan Moulder in a TWW3 lord pack, possibly with Thanquol as the FLC (assuming he isn't a White Dwarf giveaway). As for Wood Elves: Araloth down in Orean's Camp and Drycha leading Laurelon Forest? Vice versa? Getting good vibes for either Gorbad Ironclaw (Repanse precedent) or Snagla Grobspit (existing Black Pit map add-on) being FLC alongside an "Eltharion the Grim vs Grom the Paunch" DLC.
@@jjkrayenhagen "Just too big name" doesn't feel like sufficient reason to not have him FLC. Look at the other "White Dwarf Giveaway" FLCs - Grombrindal himself for TWW1 and friggin' Gotrek & Felix for TWW2. Seem pretty big-name to me. Furthermore, most of the missing units from the Skaven roster are Moulder units. Would it not make more sense to add all the Moulder units in a featuring a Moulder lord?
@@kimarous Well, they added all the beasts for Dark Elves with Malus without adding Rakarth the Beastlord of Karand Kar. In the end, we'll just have to disagree.
Knowing Oxyotl, the mad lad will probably start at the Chaos wastes along with a Lizardman Army Also, what is your opinión on CA expanding not only north but south aswell into the Antartic Chaos wastes? They're suposed to be full of Beastman and Chaos deamons
For Bugman to be in the army what I'd like to see from him is immune to fear and terror, higher weapon strength for his rangers, Amry has better vigor under his command, and finally, his army gets vanguard deployment since he's well known for ambushes or saving allies in the last minute. Oh and for ability maybe if Joseph or his army drinks his ale they gain regeneration.
I feel like rebuilding Bugman's brewery and settling his grudge would be good for getting him permanently. Lords you can manually level are always more fun.
I really want Boris Todbringer as a Lord with unique campaign effects related to worship of Ulric and fighting Khazak one-eye. "IT'S FUCKING TODDY! Have you seen Khazak one-eye? He stole my FUCKING EYE" -Boris 'Toddy' Todbringer (as played by Tom Clark)
Oxyotl appears as a playable lord for the last defenders after some turns of playing, (I just don’t know if could appear for hexoatl or tlaqua tho). He reduces the upkeep of the chameleon skinks and buff them really quite nice.
Most of the Mortarchs are in the game already. Arkhan, Manfred and Neferata are the only three with Age of Sigmar models however out of the 9 in Fantasy. But Krell, Vlad and Luthor are in TWW2 as well which makes 6 out of 9, though it's shame that out of all the Mortarchs Lady Olynder, Mortarch of Grief isn't on the table since she's a Age of Sigmar only Mortarch, since she'd probably look really good in the TWW2 engine, though I don't think we are going to directly see the existing 6 as the Mortarchs.
you forgot Nefereta who both lore and based on what they have in game now would make loads of sense to add as she is a mortarch along side arkhan, Luthor Harkon, Count noctilus, and Mannfred ... plus there is heinrich kemmler who is aligned with them
@@TheGreatBookofGrudges she is but as a mortarch in the Nagash End Times book. She's not in an army book per say, but Undead Legion's army book was the Nagash book. So meh? I mean they'd need to do something about Vlad being Mortarch of Shadow too and that just feels like a potential mess with von Carstein faction.
@@thomassaxon8254 very true but this video was mostly focused on the base line 8th. Honestly since End Times has such radical changes I feel like it deserves it own video 😊 but we are covering all other stuff soon! We've started looking onto expansions for 8th already 😊
Technically the Vampire Coast is missing 2 Legendary Lords, Skretch the Warlord of Clan Skurvy (An Undead Skaven Pirate) and Tordrek Hackhart (a Chaos Dwarf Pirate and former Master Engineer of Varak Barr) And IMO these 2 would be the most interesting of the Vampire Coast. As they would bring something entirely new. Undead Skaven with Lore of Vampires and Chaos Dwarf Pirates that use Zombies as fodder instead of Hobgoblins.
They've said that they like to choose legendary lords based on how different they are hence tiktaqto, I think a lot of those lords you've said wont make it I think has a good chance
sfo added most of the lords along with mix's legendary lords. however we need more lords. throek in sfo has 30% high upkeep for blackpowder units which is annoying but lore friendly . So added pretty much every empire legendary lord. aka elector counts and they are very unique, I just finished my empire grand campaign and the elector counts really add flavour. p.s for some reason in Sfo Bretonia loves to invade Norsca and naggarond...by the time I finished with vampire counts and chaos invasion.... Bretonnia had taken over all of norsca and was busy waging a war on high elves and dark elves lol. Also Luther huss is a legendary hero in sfo and has a lot of unique abilities.
I think Gitilla da Hunta could possibly be quite interesting. For one, he'd be the first ranged hero for the Greenskins and since he actually is a seasoned monster hunter, I could imagine him getting some simular traits to Markus Wulfhardt. I'd imagine that he'd have a bonus against large enemies with his missile attacks (as well as probably good ap values) and he would probably get some kind of magic missile ability with his bow item, I think both he and all wolf riders in the same army as him should get immunity to psychology and for the Wolf Riders I could imagine a small bonus against large in melee, too. Besides that I think he could also grant some considerable campaign vision range and ambush detection chance to represent the fact that he's also an excellent scout.
Oxy Oatl... not entirely sure how to spell that, but the Legendary Skink guy, he's already in the game. If you play Nagai the Wanderer's campaign, he shows up right after the Chaos Invasion starts. He gets a full army and joins your faction for free, with 20 turns of no upkeep for his army.
I just want Archaon on top of a flying mount. I’ve seen so many pictures of him mounted atop a three-headed dragon version of Dorghar that it’s not even funny. Make Archaon Great Again!!
Melkhiordarkblade So? Wulfrik can ride a mammoth and he’s got the same problem. Not that it matters cuz it’s cool as hell. And given the fact that a lot of the other lords and heroes with big mounts have the same issues, the question still remains: Why does Archaon the friggin EVERCHOSEN not get his own flying mount of death and destruction? And the mounts are optional. Stay with his horse if you want.
a cool way they could implement bugmen would be rather then a lord option have a random territory location that is shown to you at some point if you capture it you can set up his ale house giving you a nice faction wide morale and hit point buff but lousing the territory will take the buff away and give you a debuff until you complete a grudge like kill the army that destroyed the ale house and or some of the teratorys belonging to that faction at which point a new location will be given to set up a new ale house.
you forgot Rekarth for Dark elves, He's a High beastmaster lord and apparently the original Dark elf lord from the old editions, Malekith would appear to be based around him. Great vid though!
I wouldn't pass it purely on the 8th ed books. It's clear that the developers are quite happy to and have raided lists from every edition from 5th onwards - the Vampire Coast for example is based on a WD list from 6th. There's a few Bretonnian characters based on their 4th/5th book too as an example. So I wouldn't just think of it as the 8th books.
Very true but the main focus as they have claimed is on 8th! Now if they wanna go as far back as possible that's fine by me! I would love to see Nippon! They had rules in errr 2nd or 3rd was it?
@@TheGreatBookofGrudges 3rd was the last time. It was a fairly generic list but they could build on it. I don't know it just feels like they're not going to be limited to just 8th if there's stuff they want to do. I mean I'd love them to do Zlatlan as a proper faction with its younger Slann. But we'll see.
Out of the Lizardmen LLs, Oxoyotl is the most likely to appear in the game. Specially with the addition of the Dragon Isles. That could be where he starts and we could get some new Lizardmen stuff like the Coatl and Thunder Lizard.
for the skaven i think Ghoritch would be a good hero as he could buff up rat ogres, i'm not familiar with tabletop so i don't know if it comes from 8th edition and josef bugman should be a horde faction as he never really stays in the same place
Scylla Afingrim is considered a spawn, so think we could see him as a spawn and forsaken specialised lord. Simlarly elevating the scarab prince to lord status because he made a minor tomb king faction kneel before him could good as well. Personally I want ungrol or moonclaw, I very like their style and intresting units coming with their theme in a lordpack.
DUDE OMG this is exactly what i've been waiting for , if u could make for units too i would love to see man! i really want Valkia the bloody holy shit , do you think she can be add in TW3 ?
If we are getting four Chaos factions, then I am almost certain that Valkia would lead the Khorne faction, she is just too cool and important to pass up as a strong contender. Also, unless we are getting a new undead faction variant, I think it is still possible that we will get Neferata as a Vampire Count lord.
For the Sisters of Twilight, they could have a mechanic similar to the Martial Prowess of the High Elves. In the sense, that one of them dies once they drop below 50% health (or there is a chance of one of them dieing everytime they get hit and are below x% health) and the unit looses some fighting power and leadership for the rest of the battle? Maybe? Just an idea :)
So we know there is a greenskin update coming soon, I think the 2 lords in the next pack will be Grom and that mentioned high elf on the griffon. Those are just the 2 most likely we dont know for sure. There was a brief mention in one of the livestreams, that they wanted to do something with the wood elves, because they know the mechanics for them suck. We might see something like was done with reponse, with a Wood elf as the free lord. They might even update the mechanics a bit. Unfortunately the chaos lords wont be added til warhammer 3, and most of the unique heroes have a very low chance of being added. We have what unique heros in game? 3 total? Krok, Felix, and Reponses sidekick. I dont think they will be adding many. A DLC that just adds unique heroes though would be cool.
so since this has come out we have gotten Eltharion the Grim v Grom the Paunch Thrott the Unclean v Sisters of Twilight (+ drycha) unmentioned: Rakarth as a FLC and finally Oxcotyl v Taurox
Being drunk would lower your shooting skills not raise them (Josef Bugman). It knackers yor coordination completely, thats why drunks stagger about the place and crash their cars into trees. It would rase melee however...by a lot haha.
Shadowblade is also the Assassin who appears in the Dark Elf Vortex cutscenes. Tullaris could be a legendary hero for Hellebron if he doesn't end up leading his own faction.
Actually Galrauch is perfect for a High Elves vs Chaos Lord Pack. The Prince and the Dragon. Prince Imrik vs Galrauch. Also we need recruitable Chaos Dragons for WoC and Galrauch would additonally also bring Chaos Dragon Lords. Making Chaos the only faction to bring Monstrous Flyers as their Lord type.
I hope CA would make more legendary hero. for now i think we only got Henry le Massif, lord Kroak, Wulfhart hunters, Felix, and i think one for the Norsca, and most of them aren't playable in multiplayer. I don't ask to get all of them in multiplayer (because of balancing issues) but more legendary heroes would definitely be nice.
Characters I am actually amazed that you missed and who have been a major part of Warhammer history... Dwarf King Kazador of Karak Azul...he's already in the game...and has his own model. Prince Imrik of Caledor, Morglum Necksnapper from the Gathering of Might, Crom the Conqueror, and Ariel the Queen of Athel Loren. Honestly, these characters have more of a reason to be in the game then some of the others in their faction that you have listed.
Alith Anar gets a 100% assassinate character every few turns. Clan Eshin can delete a whole faction. It wouldn't be the most over powered thing out there.
Ya this wont be too unbalanced, just make him a unique assassin character (well they dont have an assassin hero sooo) with a higher assassination chance. You can already get 100% on a regular hero, they just need to be high enough level.
I'm glad you're not part of the balancing team, since you'd "balance" every faction to the point that no faction would have any semblance to their source material whatsoever.
what about Rakarth for DE? could also update beastlords along with his addition also shadowblade could have an ability where he can pop up in the enemy army like on the tabletop in 6th edition
I'm pretty sure CA will never release temporary lords again as the reception for Gotrek and Felix was so disappointing they still plan on changing their implementation in campaign.
Mostly just hoping for a Blood lines Dlc at some point before the end of game 3. Their update was nice. But they could use a full dlc to fix the mess that was being the 1st actual dlc of the trilogy.
Actually, Grimm Burloksson would make a reasonable Legendary Lord for Zhufbar, in regards to the Dwarfs. Rather than Tech locking/Building Locking him like Volkmar, just have Burloksson be the leader of Zhufbar, which is known for being the home of the Dwarf Engineers.
I desperately want a beastmen and woodelves rework... Warhoof would be a perfect addition to the beastmen roster. For the woodelves i dont mind all that much as long as it is an actual elf not a tree or whatever Orion is
For the legendary Heroes instead of getting them straight away or unique to certain faction tie them to a unique building I the settlement where their are from
1:16: Beastmen
6:07 Dark Elf
7:38 Dwarf
9:10 Empire
11:10 High Elf
13:00 Lizard
14:20 Ork/gobos
16:18 Skaven
17:29 Tomb King
18:25 Vampire count
19:00 Warrior Of Chaos
21:33 Wood Elf
Thanks for this had no time to do this as been super busy at work until now! Many thanks Arthur :)
@@TheGreatBookofGrudges *Aw, I'm sad. No Halfling Legendary Lord?* What about that wagon train cook who beat some Orc Warboss with a cooking pot? Oh well , I'll slink back to the chaos wastes then to cry a little. :)
So many Potential chaos characters, so little time. ( Crom the conqueror, egrimm van horstmann, arbaal the undefeated, etc)
@@TheGreatBookofGrudges just to inform, they said no thanquol in 2nd game
@@ternauven they will come in warhammer 3 hopefully
I just want a wood elf legendary lord who is actually an elf. Not a tree or a hybrid.
Same!
At least we got Daith in mods
@@inkeddecker9964 Daith is an avatar...
The twin elves with their dragon?
@@Runenschuppe The same mod also gives welfs Naieth, so theres that.
This made me realize that there are no characters that fly without a mount. That would be a nice addition to the game.
lol we got malagor but CA thinks the wings are just for decoration
Right I don’t think ability to fly would make malador op
@@mike-fr2vf same with Lords of Change
I reckon when they add Valkia they might retroactively add flying to Malagor and Lords Of Change
Fey Enchantress “flys.” By levitating..
Another good idea for a video would be covering legendary lord possibilities outside of 8th ed, there really are a lot of winners in supplemental material like Elspeth von Draken and such.
We'll check them out 😊
Ideal Greenskin update:
Grom the Paunch
Grimgor moved to world edge mountain with new faction ‘Ardboys
Gorbad/Gorfang FLC
Grimgor would probably move when game 3 launches
Got Grom
!!!
@@ShackospeareLiar
He did not mention Gorfang indeed.
I've been reading the Gotrek and Felix books and Malachi Makaisson for the dwarfs would be hype as hell ingame. Thunderbarges, man, frickin war zeppelins.
As far as lore and content speculations are concerned you just might be the single most active content producer of the entire community right now. Congrats ^^
I'll be honest I just wanted to keep entertained during lockdown, rather enjoying doing these types of videos too!
Came back to this just to see how 90% of them are now in the game + even more.
So many new characters i've seen today. Warhammer always has something new to tell, even years of being in the hobby.
I know. Its why i love it so much. Whether its fantasy or 40k im still learning more after 20 years digging.
Do you guys wanna see complete videos on each race? We'll be here for days! Even with all I've mentioned we've probably only done around 10%ish? 8th had a bunch of new characters but there were so many more on other editions, supplements and so on :)
@@TheGreatBookofGrudges i do think you should cover the races. They add context to other videos you make for newer people...that and you might have something ive never heard before which would be great
Will do! 😊
@@TheGreatBookofGrudges I be down for that.
I would see the Sisters of Twilight implemented in a way that borrows mechanics from both Gotrek & Felix, and Malus Darkblade. Naestra could be a lord, while Arahan would be a hero that cannot be detached from Naestra's army. Arahan would probably have some sort of rampage-esqe trait where she acts extremely aggressively, and Naestra would gain that trait if Arahan is wounded in battle. If only one of the two is wounded in battle, they automatically heal after the battle ends (so you have to wound both in the same battle to actually wound them).
This uses mostly existing mechanics (so it's easy to implement) and it seems like a reasonable way to adapt their unique mechanics to TWW. I'd love to see them and/or Drycha as FLC lords for Laurelorn and/or Heart of the Jungle whenever we finally get that Wood Elf rework.
Great video as always!
@Melkhiordarkblade It just feels kind of forced. They are actually two separate entities that can be in different spots on the battlefield. I get that that was done with Skarsnik but Gobbla is literally his pet and it's entirely reasonable that Gobbla would never leave his side in battle. That's just not how Naestra & Arahan operate.
Anyway, the upshot is I think N&A and Drycha would both we way more interesting than Araloth, who would essentially be just a LL version of a Glade Lord. Plus Araloth would almost definitely start in Talsyn as an alternative LL for an already playable faction, while N&A and Drycha could both plausibly be made the LL of any faction, including the two wood elf factions outside of Athel Loren. Adding a LL to those locations is much more interesting to me.
I want Konrad so bad - his diplomacy lines would be pure mental gold.
I could just imagine it! "Do I eat you now... or later?"
@@TheGreatBookofGrudges I don't think Konrad would be a good choice. The vampire wars books were written before they had the different blood lines as a thing and Konrad basically filled what is now the Blood Dragons stickh. He was crap at magic, not great at ruling but good at melee combat. I'd rather aborash, red duke or Harkon. Also Konrad would talk to the heads of his slain enemies because he was a little mad. Queek does that too (queek head taker) and carries the skulls with him on his back.
So anything Konrad's good at, other lords do better. Also, he's another sylvanian Vampire, I'd much rather the Blood dragons be out and around and have more interesting start options
I thought you meant Konrad Curze.
I mean in terms of Diplomacy lines, Marius Leitdorf would probably take the cake.
@@darthplagueis13 The man single-handedly repelled the great unicorn invasion - he has to turn up sooner or later!
What about Ariel, the Magequeen of the Wood Elves?
hes only doing 8th edition book characters but she would be a big contender Arloth was only realy made to carry the elves into age of sigma and Drydra is is interesting but kinda limited as she hates the wood elves.
@@ONI09100 As Aaron said :) But we'll do a series of videos covered ALL named characters who are missing soon enough!
Isn't Ariel inside a massive tree? ( In Warhammer fantasy not AoS)
It’s neat watching this video knowing a decent amount of the characters have been or are being added.
If they add more ship faring lords into Warhammer to go against the Vampire Coast and Lokhir, then there's everyone from Dreadfleet but I don't know if they'll do that.
"Shadowblade, the Death that walks Unseen"
*Laughs in Snikch*
During this whole mess that’s been happening, I’ve been swamped at work latley, and everyday like clockwork your videos are posted during my lunch break. Thanks for putting out great content and helping everyone through this brother !
Sisters of twilight are my no.1 pick, they would be so interesting!
I think they should just be a very small unit, so when the units hit x health one model dies, they cant heal until they can be re recruited on the campain map again :).
Thanks for the video!
This video aged well when you consider that 5 of those on this list got added to the game
Make that 7 coming next week
I can see quite a few being implemented sooner or later.
IIRC, the devs really want to do Prince Apophas but are struggling to get a properly animated model for him.
Also the devs said Thanquol is not going to be in the TWW2 docket (in a "please stop asking" way), hinting towards TWW3 plans.
Predicting Throt the Unclean leading Clan Moulder in a TWW3 lord pack, possibly with Thanquol as the FLC (assuming he isn't a White Dwarf giveaway).
As for Wood Elves: Araloth down in Orean's Camp and Drycha leading Laurelon Forest? Vice versa?
Getting good vibes for either Gorbad Ironclaw (Repanse precedent) or Snagla Grobspit (existing Black Pit map add-on) being FLC alongside an "Eltharion the Grim vs Grom the Paunch" DLC.
I just can't see Thanquol being FLC. He's just too big of a name. I would flip it. Thanquol is part of a lord pack and Throt would be FLC.
@@jjkrayenhagen "Just too big name" doesn't feel like sufficient reason to not have him FLC. Look at the other "White Dwarf Giveaway" FLCs - Grombrindal himself for TWW1 and friggin' Gotrek & Felix for TWW2. Seem pretty big-name to me.
Furthermore, most of the missing units from the Skaven roster are Moulder units. Would it not make more sense to add all the Moulder units in a featuring a Moulder lord?
@@kimarous Well, they added all the beasts for Dark Elves with Malus without adding Rakarth the Beastlord of Karand Kar. In the end, we'll just have to disagree.
Knowing Oxyotl, the mad lad will probably start at the Chaos wastes along with a Lizardman Army
Also, what is your opinión on CA expanding not only north but south aswell into the Antartic Chaos wastes? They're suposed to be full of Beastman and Chaos deamons
Kurgan, Beastman, Deamons of Chaos.
Then they immediately die from low body temperature.
I love legendary heroes. I'm hoping they become a more fully implemented mechanic in the future.
We need a LL engineer for Dwarfs that works similar to Ikit Claw and his workshop.
thanx to modders we have almost all this characters already ) Old gods bless Mixu and his brothers and sisters in modding.
For Bugman to be in the army what I'd like to see from him is immune to fear and terror, higher weapon strength for his rangers, Amry has better vigor under his command, and finally, his army gets vanguard deployment since he's well known for ambushes or saving allies in the last minute.
Oh and for ability maybe if Joseph or his army drinks his ale they gain regeneration.
I feel like rebuilding Bugman's brewery and settling his grudge would be good for getting him permanently. Lords you can manually level are always more fun.
And how about Kazador Dragonslayer and Red Duke(he isn't a LL yet)
Someone from the clan Eshin they were not part of 8th editions army books, which is what this is based on.
yesss kazador! it would be a super hard campaing, not complaining tho
@@Mrnatethegreat2002 thanks for answer
I really want Boris Todbringer as a Lord with unique campaign effects related to worship of Ulric and fighting Khazak one-eye.
"IT'S FUCKING TODDY! Have you seen Khazak one-eye? He stole my FUCKING EYE" -Boris 'Toddy' Todbringer (as played by Tom Clark)
Oxyotl appears as a playable lord for the last defenders after some turns of playing, (I just don’t know if could appear for hexoatl or tlaqua tho). He reduces the upkeep of the chameleon skinks and buff them really quite nice.
Most of the Mortarchs are in the game already.
Arkhan, Manfred and Neferata are the only three with Age of Sigmar models however out of the 9 in Fantasy.
But Krell, Vlad and Luthor are in TWW2 as well which makes 6 out of 9, though it's shame that out of all the Mortarchs Lady Olynder, Mortarch of Grief isn't on the table since she's a Age of Sigmar only Mortarch, since she'd probably look really good in the TWW2 engine, though I don't think we are going to directly see the existing 6 as the Mortarchs.
you forgot Nefereta who both lore and based on what they have in game now would make loads of sense to add as she is a mortarch along side arkhan, Luthor Harkon, Count noctilus, and Mannfred ... plus there is heinrich kemmler who is aligned with them
I covered characters from 8th Edition? Neferata is not an 8th edition character
@@TheGreatBookofGrudges she is but as a mortarch in the Nagash End Times book. She's not in an army book per say, but Undead Legion's army book was the Nagash book. So meh?
I mean they'd need to do something about Vlad being Mortarch of Shadow too and that just feels like a potential mess with von Carstein faction.
@@thomassaxon8254 very true but this video was mostly focused on the base line 8th. Honestly since End Times has such radical changes I feel like it deserves it own video 😊 but we are covering all other stuff soon! We've started looking onto expansions for 8th already 😊
Technically the Vampire Coast is missing 2 Legendary Lords, Skretch the Warlord of Clan Skurvy (An Undead Skaven Pirate) and Tordrek Hackhart (a Chaos Dwarf Pirate and former Master Engineer of Varak Barr)
And IMO these 2 would be the most interesting of the Vampire Coast. As they would bring something entirely new. Undead Skaven with Lore of Vampires and Chaos Dwarf Pirates that use Zombies as fodder instead of Hobgoblins.
What about Vampire Counts lords like Neferata, Abhorash, W'soran, Ushoran and others? There are plenty
They've said that they like to choose legendary lords based on how different they are hence tiktaqto, I think a lot of those lords you've said wont make it I think has a good chance
Exactly. Not a good cost/benefit loosing time to design a lot of... humans on a horse.
2:34 I saw a unicorn-like-bestigor,my biggest disappointment.
Tbh have realy forgotten how good the old warhammer lore was thx to your channel for remind me :)
I've been waiting for Valkia for a long time, she's one of my favourite characters in the series.
sfo added most of the lords along with mix's legendary lords. however we need more lords.
throek in sfo has 30% high upkeep for blackpowder units which is annoying but lore friendly .
So added pretty much every empire legendary lord. aka elector counts and they are very unique, I just finished my empire grand campaign and the elector counts really add flavour.
p.s for some reason in Sfo Bretonia loves to invade Norsca and naggarond...by the time I finished with vampire counts and chaos invasion.... Bretonnia had taken over all of norsca and was busy waging a war on high elves and dark elves lol.
Also Luther huss is a legendary hero in sfo and has a lot of unique abilities.
Brettonia has anal auto resolve and are programmed to not pick fights with humans
That just happens normally lol, most games I see around 60-70 Brets or Empire have all of Norsca
I mean bretonnians do love crusading
Thank you, I love the Beastmen and its unfortunate that they don't have enough love.
It is funny to see how many of them are actually in the game now
Thank you for this information. Your right so many more characters could be add.
And even then there are MANY more still uncovered :)
I think Gitilla da Hunta could possibly be quite interesting. For one, he'd be the first ranged hero for the Greenskins and since he actually is a seasoned monster hunter, I could imagine him getting some simular traits to Markus Wulfhardt. I'd imagine that he'd have a bonus against large enemies with his missile attacks (as well as probably good ap values) and he would probably get some kind of magic missile ability with his bow item, I think both he and all wolf riders in the same army as him should get immunity to psychology and for the Wolf Riders I could imagine a small bonus against large in melee, too.
Besides that I think he could also grant some considerable campaign vision range and ambush detection chance to represent the fact that he's also an excellent scout.
Oxy Oatl... not entirely sure how to spell that, but the Legendary Skink guy, he's already in the game. If you play Nagai the Wanderer's campaign, he shows up right after the Chaos Invasion starts. He gets a full army and joins your faction for free, with 20 turns of no upkeep for his army.
Who is thinking when warhammer 3 comes this year or the next year
great book of grudges you are the best UA-camr
I'm hoping this year honestly! I wanna play as Daemons :D
Many thanks Brendan :)
I hope it comes this year
Probably out for Christmas this year.
I'm anticipating late 2021 or early 2022
I just want Archaon on top of a flying mount. I’ve seen so many pictures of him mounted atop a three-headed dragon version of Dorghar that it’s not even funny.
Make Archaon Great Again!!
He used to be so bad ass he didn't even need a dragon
Melkhiordarkblade So? Wulfrik can ride a mammoth and he’s got the same problem. Not that it matters cuz it’s cool as hell. And given the fact that a lot of the other lords and heroes with big mounts have the same issues, the question still remains: Why does Archaon the friggin EVERCHOSEN not get his own flying mount of death and destruction?
And the mounts are optional. Stay with his horse if you want.
@@anathar8830 Because his horse looks badass, and his chaos undivided super mount looks like an overdecorated hummer.
a cool way they could implement bugmen would be rather then a lord option have a random territory location that is shown to you at some point if you capture it you can set up his ale house giving you a nice faction wide morale and hit point buff but lousing the territory will take the buff away and give you a debuff until you complete a grudge like kill the army that destroyed the ale house and or some of the teratorys belonging to that faction at which point a new location will be given to set up a new ale house.
you forgot Rekarth for Dark elves, He's a High beastmaster lord and apparently the original Dark elf lord from the old editions, Malekith would appear to be based around him.
Great vid though!
I wouldn't pass it purely on the 8th ed books. It's clear that the developers are quite happy to and have raided lists from every edition from 5th onwards - the Vampire Coast for example is based on a WD list from 6th. There's a few Bretonnian characters based on their 4th/5th book too as an example.
So I wouldn't just think of it as the 8th books.
Very true but the main focus as they have claimed is on 8th! Now if they wanna go as far back as possible that's fine by me! I would love to see Nippon! They had rules in errr 2nd or 3rd was it?
@@TheGreatBookofGrudges 3rd was the last time. It was a fairly generic list but they could build on it.
I don't know it just feels like they're not going to be limited to just 8th if there's stuff they want to do.
I mean I'd love them to do Zlatlan as a proper faction with its younger Slann. But we'll see.
Out of the Lizardmen LLs, Oxoyotl is the most likely to appear in the game. Specially with the addition of the Dragon Isles. That could be where he starts and we could get some new Lizardmen stuff like the Coatl and Thunder Lizard.
Luthor Huss and Valten vs Archaeon with Grimgor coming in as the ringer>Huss posessed by Drachenfels as a mortarch
for the skaven i think Ghoritch would be a good hero as he could buff up rat ogres, i'm not familiar with tabletop so i don't know if it comes from 8th edition
and josef bugman should be a horde faction as he never really stays in the same place
He's a 6th edition hero but we're going to cover all missing things for each race soon as there has been a decent amount of requests :)
20:00 I can't explain it but I desperately want to see that guy riding a tricycle.
Scylla Afingrim is considered a spawn, so think we could see him as a spawn and forsaken specialised lord. Simlarly elevating the scarab prince to lord status because he made a minor tomb king faction kneel before him could good as well. Personally I want ungrol or moonclaw, I very like their style and intresting units coming with their theme in a lordpack.
DUDE OMG this is exactly what i've been waiting for , if u could make for units too i would love to see man!
i really want Valkia the bloody holy shit , do you think she can be add in TW3 ?
zPandah Valkia is the definition of Queen, Slay!
"Let's start with Beastmen". That's why I'm here!
If we are getting four Chaos factions, then I am almost certain that Valkia would lead the Khorne faction, she is just too cool and important to pass up as a strong contender.
Also, unless we are getting a new undead faction variant, I think it is still possible that we will get Neferata as a Vampire Count lord.
quite amazing to see after a while how many you guessed right!
Surprised you didn't mention Valten. Be it as a Legendary hero or a Legendary lord in his own right.
He wasn't in an official army book his rules came across in supplements :)
Twins could get a Hydra or phoenix style regeneration/rebirth chance while acting as one unit.
must haves would be Valkia Thanquel Elfariian grom and sisters of silence if they dont do Arial
For the Sisters of Twilight, they could have a mechanic similar to the Martial Prowess of the High Elves. In the sense, that one of them dies once they drop below 50% health (or there is a chance of one of them dieing everytime they get hit and are below x% health) and the unit looses some fighting power and leadership for the rest of the battle? Maybe? Just an idea :)
So we know there is a greenskin update coming soon, I think the 2 lords in the next pack will be Grom and that mentioned high elf on the griffon. Those are just the 2 most likely we dont know for sure. There was a brief mention in one of the livestreams, that they wanted to do something with the wood elves, because they know the mechanics for them suck. We might see something like was done with reponse, with a Wood elf as the free lord. They might even update the mechanics a bit. Unfortunately the chaos lords wont be added til warhammer 3, and most of the unique heroes have a very low chance of being added. We have what unique heros in game? 3 total? Krok, Felix, and Reponses sidekick. I dont think they will be adding many. A DLC that just adds unique heroes though would be cool.
so since this has come out we have gotten
Eltharion the Grim v Grom the Paunch
Thrott the Unclean v Sisters of Twilight (+ drycha)
unmentioned: Rakarth as a FLC
and finally Oxcotyl v Taurox
I love to see how many actually got in the game.
12:25 you showed korhill again when talking about caradryn
Being drunk would lower your shooting skills not raise them (Josef Bugman). It knackers yor coordination completely, thats why drunks stagger about the place and crash their cars into trees. It would rase melee however...by a lot haha.
Shadowblade is also the Assassin who appears in the Dark Elf Vortex cutscenes. Tullaris could be a legendary hero for Hellebron if he doesn't end up leading his own faction.
What we need for Bretonnia is a Gotrek and Felix type partnership of Tristain and Jules. That would be dope
Actually Galrauch is perfect for a High Elves vs Chaos Lord Pack. The Prince and the Dragon. Prince Imrik vs Galrauch. Also we need recruitable Chaos Dragons for WoC and Galrauch would additonally also bring Chaos Dragon Lords. Making Chaos the only faction to bring Monstrous Flyers as their Lord type.
I hope CA would make more legendary hero. for now i think we only got Henry le Massif, lord Kroak, Wulfhart hunters, Felix, and i think one for the Norsca, and most of them aren't playable in multiplayer. I don't ask to get all of them in multiplayer (because of balancing issues) but more legendary heroes would definitely be nice.
Taurox, Apophas and Tullaris are the top 3 I'd love to see.
CA stated Apophas would be VERY hard to design, that's why they left it out of the game.
Shouldn't slugtongue get some spells from like, the pestilens spellbook as a stopgap to true nurgle spells being added?
Missing orcs:
Morglum, the best black orcs warboss from Bretonia
Ruglud.
Chaos:
Crom, Harry the Hammer.
Empire:
Valten
I only count about 14-15 LL left from the book. I feel more than half of these characters would work as hero or are not worth including
So Skaven is your favourite faction, interesting. They are different but I guess I didnt expect that
0:59 anyone else not see Heinrick Kemmler and instantly go 'where is Krell'!!?
How about Bohemund the Beastslayer? A bretonnian Lord with Hunting large units/monsters mechanic.
Shadowblade is already in the game as the assassin in the druchii rituals
Great video. But what is with guthrud spume and the glottkin? Or aren't they in the 8th edition?
And could you doo a video about missing units?
They are in 8.5 The End Times 😊 and sure will do!
@@TheGreatBookofGrudges ah ok thx.
Cool👍
For the Skaven, Skreech Verminking is 100% coming in Warhammer 3. He might be End Times stuff, but no one can't deny the prospect of a Verminlord LL.
Characters I am actually amazed that you missed and who have been a major part of Warhammer history... Dwarf King Kazador of Karak Azul...he's already in the game...and has his own model. Prince Imrik of Caledor, Morglum Necksnapper from the Gathering of Might, Crom the Conqueror, and Ariel the Queen of Athel Loren. Honestly, these characters have more of a reason to be in the game then some of the others in their faction that you have listed.
Some more characters: Valten, Imrik, Belanner, Aislin, Kazador, Alrik, Crom, Ariel, Coeddil
Wait did you say scarab lord should have a 99% assassination chance.... I love the videos, glad your not balancing the game.
Ok ok I'm playing favourites to the scarab lord you got me :P
Alith Anar gets a 100% assassinate character every few turns. Clan Eshin can delete a whole faction. It wouldn't be the most over powered thing out there.
Ya this wont be too unbalanced, just make him a unique assassin character (well they dont have an assassin hero sooo) with a higher assassination chance. You can already get 100% on a regular hero, they just need to be high enough level.
I'm glad you're not part of the balancing team, since you'd "balance" every faction to the point that no faction would have any semblance to their source material whatsoever.
I mean, they could tie it in with a mechanic, rather than just have it as a hero action.
what about Rakarth for DE? could also update beastlords along with his addition
also shadowblade could have an ability where he can pop up in the enemy army like on the tabletop in 6th edition
Funny to see this pop up in my trend now and seeing how many of the legendary lords & heroes are now reality #GreatBookofProphecy
Just liked the goblin indian spider rider
I'm pretty sure CA will never release temporary lords again as the reception for Gotrek and Felix was so disappointing they still plan on changing their implementation in campaign.
Mostly just hoping for a Blood lines Dlc at some point before the end of game 3. Their update was nice. But they could use a full dlc to fix the mess that was being the 1st actual dlc of the trilogy.
Much like Ahzag, Leitdorf was still alive at TWWH's start date.
Maybe, just 3 additional heroes/lords Ariel, neferata and Walach harkon, nice video
Actually, Grimm Burloksson would make a reasonable Legendary Lord for Zhufbar, in regards to the Dwarfs. Rather than Tech locking/Building Locking him like Volkmar, just have Burloksson be the leader of Zhufbar, which is known for being the home of the Dwarf Engineers.
I desperately want a beastmen and woodelves rework... Warhoof would be a perfect addition to the beastmen roster. For the woodelves i dont mind all that much as long as it is an actual elf not a tree or whatever Orion is
We need the ubesreik 5
Well they are technically are in the game
The only thing from the ubesreik 5 that is already in the game is Siennas voice actress
What I mean is you can get them as a garrison in ubersriek with the unique tavern there
Or four, it doesnt matter!
I believe you forget king kazador from karak azul and king alfrik ranulfson from karak hirn for dwarfs.
Most recent book? Cries in Imrik
anyone remembers when eltharion was blind? 6th ed, then he returnet in the 8th and he is ok
For the legendary Heroes instead of getting them straight away or unique to certain faction tie them to a unique building I the settlement where their are from
Which then makes it important to get the unique building for the hero and there unique skills
The image of Caradryan on you video is Korhil. Lol
Awesome thx that you did it ❤️
You're welcome :)
for Wood Elfs why didnt you include Ariel?
I just want my Lizard boys to have their last three lords