Very helpful, especially Scott's commentary -- lots of good insight into how to approach points as a team. Thanks to the guys for their willingness to play! I can feel Steve's hesitance to take balls at the net -- glad I'm not the only one...
Steve, is normally all over the net especially crossing with his forehand and foot speed. However, a 4 hour car ride and hotel beds left his back very tight and uncomfortable and he wasn't his normal self. We did roll the next to opponents we played in our USTA League.
Looking forward to see my partner and I play. Video doesn't lie! I'm always wanting to observe and learn. It's how we get better. The guys and I had a great conversation about the match on the way home and things we can work on.
Jim, watching this showed me that you come to net even more than I realized. I also saw that I stand around way more than I realized. Definitely gotta get some happy feet and get moving more. You set a good example in that first set as far as crashing the net and making good things happen.
15:45 @Jim Sichterman This long rally point reveals the very late FH racket prep by Jim. This is a very common issue. Might be something to work on, going forward. Big thanks to all 4 guys. Great skills and lots of talent here. I love how you guys charge the net. Lots to learn here for all of us.
@@vmmv402 Absolutely, something I've been working on along with better footwork, hard to break those bad habits, last year here I was very slow reacting and moving, better this year, but still lots of work to do!! What a great game and great input from my teammates can only help us get better! I also need to get a more aggressive first serve so I can get a few free points and hold easier.
I love seeing amateur doubles match play like this - it really helps me learn a little more where I should stand, which shots work in which situation, etc. It's so much more relatable to my real world experiences than professional tennis. Only one thought - I'd love if some of the talking points pointed out & replayed some good strategy or shot or something so I can learn something maybe I didn't catch on my own. I found myself just pausing the video to predict where the players should reposition themselves and which shot should maybe be hit. It was very helpful - thanks Ian!
Doubles is the game for most amateur tennis players, and this match shows the allure of doubles: the ebbs and flows, the great shots, the missed opportunities -- its all there in this match. I appreciate the rapport between Scott and Ian; they really complement each other as commentators. Scott has great insights on doubles tactics and nuances. I would love to see him and Ian team up in a doubles match and hear their comments in the heat of battle. Show us more doubles matches!
Nice to see some doubles, glad that we could hear the players talk strategy. Might have been helpful to have a server indicator in the scoreboard for doubles matches.
Loving the continued sports casting collaboration of Ian and Scott! Gentle/sportsmen players of great skill! So fun to watch. Looking forward to part 2 guys! Awesome job ET Team!
15:45 @Jim Sichterman This long rally point reveals the very late FH racket prep by Jim. This is a very common issue. Might be something to work on, going forward. Big thanks to all 4 guys. Great skills and lots of talent here. I love how you guys charge the net. Lots to learn here for all of us.
Loved how Ian and Scott talk about sensing momentum shifts and proper doubles intention. A miss when you're aiming for the right shot is better than losing your mind and blasting a return. Would love to hear more about that.
Great stuff and super helpful! I love that you dont primarily focus on professional tennis players and showcase "us normal tennis players" that love the game and desire to get better. Thanks again Ian and Scott, enjoyed the commentary.
Great content! I noticed that the non returner on the return team often was inside the service line, leaving them out of place for the volley from the up man on the service team. Prime example at 22:05. I notice this a lot at 4.0 level where they are often to eager to be at the net instead of protecting against the easiest volley for the front man and waiting to go to the net when the ball is passed the front man.
This is a really good point. If I'm the non-returner I will line up pretty much on the service line but angled toward the net player, precisely in case they intercept and it comes anywhere near, then move up if it passes as you say,
Another thing for 4.0s to develop - more signals, more movement at net - fakes, poaches (called or not called) to create chaos and force errors. Part of that is getting comfortable tracking the ball, shot sequences, etc. but another aspect is to eventually just start experimenting and GO when you think you see something predictable to a crosscourt shot coming next.
There's a really interesting tactic here from Jim, taking so much pace off your serve you can be right in at the net to get the return. Never thought of that
All four players are doing an incredible job out there. If I may point something out, I think that Jim and Steve would benefit a lot if they changed their mental trigger to hit the ball. It seemed thet both wait the ball to bounce to start their swing. I really enjoy seeing @Scott Broady preparing his strikes earlier, so he can really get the ball at the right time.
Hi Ian! Do you have a tip for feeling comfortable with an continental grip while serving? My student always starts using the eastern grip because he feels uncomfortable with an continental grip.
I love singles, but find the strategy and communication required to play doubles makes for much better spectating. Interesting match. The camera at the rear of one end is fairly limiting in view. Have you ever tried a side view camera far enough away or wide angle enough of a lens to see the entire court.
Great seeing 4.0 play! Would be nice if you could comment on what they are doing well and what/where they should improve throughout the game to reach 4.5.
As expected, great competitive match! And great commentary from Ian and Scott. Paul/Fred had a strong first set exposing Steve/Jim team weaknesses. Good 4.0+ doubles teams make major adjustments in the second set after losing the first - will they do it? Try things like lob returns, Aussie formation / I formation, poach more aggressively. The winning team should also play more aggressively early in the second set to try to "break" the losing team. Can't wait to see what happens!
It's different playing teammates vs. opponents you haven't met before in terms of coming up with adjustments or being unpredictable. Steve seems good at the net and hit some nice volleys, he could have hit even more if he wasn't so concerned with the alley. Just noticed since poaching and being more active in the middle is my focus area too!
It actually takes a more developed skill set to play good doubles. Players must be able to place their return of serve and ground strokes to avoid the second opponent. Doubles is more demanding in this regard. Being able to effectively volley and hit overheads is essential. Even at the 4.0 level there are many players who do well in singles but don’t have the skills or strategy for doubles. Good all court players that have aggressive approach/ volley and serve/ volley singles game make good doubles players. Martina Navratilova is a great example.167 career singles titles and 177 career doubles titles which is Open era record.
Good commentary Ian and Scott! I was pretty surprised at how many unforced errors both teams made on neutral and even put away balls. Looking forward to seeing the next set - maybe it was mostly just due to settling in. Both teams have fairly good movement, but feels like their technique and unforced errors are really letting them down
Agreed- too many "easy" balls that were missed. No great reason but, as you point out, technique (and footwork) was probably the cause of a lot of those misses. Seeing it on video helps me to get a better idea of what I'm doing so I can better address my deficiencies. I don't plan on being the next coming of Roger, but I know I can put forth some effort to improve. Would be interesting to see a stat line at the end of set 1 and set 2 looking at unforced errors, double faults, etc.
What advice do you have when you never have the same partner ? On my USTA team we get switched around all the time. It makes it’s really difficult to create a sustainable game plan and to use signals effectively.
You can talk before every shot, serve direction and poach, fake or stay. Keep it simple but make sure your partner is comfortable with it, keep talking and see what works. Try to adapt your game to set them up.
Saw the video like 26mins long.. then while watching, it was like oh it's done? Good game to both teams and Fred looks like he will come at you and smash the ball into oblivion
I think basically a lot of players don't use signs is because they can't serve where they want (kick, slice, on the t, wide out, on the figure, etc), and they simply try the big first serve and a normal sloppy second serve just to get the ball in play. Anyway great video, as usual!
We often use directional signals but we all know each other's games so well that it's a moot point most of the time. Paul knows where my serve is going 90% of the time based on his play call in a normal formation. We mainly use directional signaling when in I-formation.
Well. Doubles are a different animal. Me personally, my performance in doubles is way below the one in singles as my main deficies are serve and volley. When I watch players on the somewhere 4.0 level, the first thing I try to check is their deficies. Even the best player on the court, Fred, has a weakness compared to the other guys. His backhand. I would try to hit every serve to his backhand. The other guys benefit from their tennis I.Q., but aren't the best athletes. I would try to make them run which is more difficult in doubles. The level of play here is quite good. The only part I would complain about is the low consistency on overheads which doesn't fit the overall quality. They should get lessoned by Ian who is very very good on volleys and overheads.
Thanks for the feedback. I think everyone would agree that none of our overheads were "on" that day. I don't think any of us has played a match where we've missed even 2 OHs in the entire match in quite a while. I played a mixed match 2 days after this and somehow found my OH again. Wish I had it this day, but such are the inconsistency struggles for guys at our level. You're correct- my biggest weak link is my BH and these guys know it and try to feed it. In turn, I've improved the shot (believe it or not) and work on running around it and hitting a FH. Definitely something we work on in practice- improving our weak links to make them less of an anchor come match time.
Come on to youtube to watch the kyrgios game, but actually prefer this 😂 great that you bring back Mark and Broady all the time, I like them 👍🏻 still waiting for you to find a real challenge for cole tough. You can learn a lot from his reflections and decisionmaking as he as he is a little bit less capped skillwise (no offense to the other competitors)
Some big differences between skill levels on display. 3.5? Tons of misses at net. 4.0? Mix of good and bad. 4.5+? Misses stand out as they don't occur often on neutral/offensive shots.
You've said a lot in the past that your court is very fast, it's even more obvious in doubles as some volleys are not hit super hard but are still crushing as they lose almost no speed at all ! Quite crazy
@@RichardOw Fred is a 4.5 player, got bumped up last Sectionals when he and Paul rolled over everyone they played. I'm the Captain of the 4.0 team and Fred was one of the guys who wanted to play for me. At that time he hit everything hard but didn't know where it was going and didn't have a backhand. He's worked hard on his game to get where he is. Ian asked me to put together the most competitive match and these were the guys that could take time away to come play. May bring others next time if we get an invite. I'd love to bring a couple of team and play some local 4.0 teams from the Milwaukee area.
I played with these guys in 18+ and 40+ when rated 4.0. I still practice with them on a weekly basis. Great set of guys who are really competitive on the court. Jim captains all the teams in town, or so it seems. I don't have the time to do so.
Haha...right after I wrote a long comment a few minutes ago at 4-2 about Steve's net play because he had been terrible up to that point I had to stop to comment. When they got to 4-3 even Steve commented about his net poor net play...he called it "frozen" and he needs to cover the middle...and I admire Steve for seeing and calling his bad. Wonder why Scott and Ian did not see this problem.
GOD forbid anyone video me play but it’s great to get to watch others. Interesting how so many of the shots missed are on backward or side movements in the body instead of taking it out front and moving forward. Those balls must be moving quickly. I’ll have to keep that in mind when I play.
I had to stop at 4-2 to comment that Steve, the bigger of the older team is not helping his partner at all at the net. He had a couple easy volleys coming to him early near the net in the set and he missed them. Then he missed a few more difficult , but still routine volleys in match play when he positioned himself near the service line. Also, he failed to even try to reach for so many balls within his reach at the net even his partner commented he thought Steve should have owned it. Even Scott was commenting about how Steve was not moving for the ball. You see Steve making some movements at the net, but you don't see him making any plays...or even touching any ball by design...that is because his movements were mostly wrong and posed no threat to his opponents. He would move out to protect the alleys even before the ball is hit and leaving the center open all the time. He tried one out of control and unsuccessful poach not even getting close to the correct direction of the ball...and Ian said he loved it. Yes...poaching is good, but Steve poached so poorly along with so many other things he did very poorly. The other guys were not pros, and they made mistakes also...but they all made points at the net. Steve was the only one so far who could not plays and points at the net, and in the game of double that is the definition of being useless. Steve had a good serve, but that was all I saw this match up to now...4-2. Up to now, he is more of a threat to his partner...making easy errors, not really being involved at the net because of his wrong movements. Jim is really playing against 4 people out there and Steve is his biggest threat. I will continue the match, but doubt that Steve will suddenly know how to play doubles and play correctly helping his partner.
Oof, right off the bat a bad line call. I know we all make bad calls but really? We give our opponents the benefit of the doubt. It's part of the code.
All jokes aside, during a pandemic, I am curious why no one is wearing a mask or doing any social distancing. Are folks showing proof of a negative COVID test before playing at your court? Or are folks simply risking it and playing anyway? Where I live doubles teams are required to wear masks, and that's outside.
Thanks for having 4.0 players on here!!! Reminds me of my current Wed night doubles, which is a blast!!! Thank you for posting this series!
Glad you enjoyed!
3:20 i think that was in....... and I think the serve after that was out IMO
Yep ball was clearly in and that serve was clearly out ... but it happens and calls tend to even out over the course of a match.
Can't call em all 100%!
Was surprise that the other team didn't question when one guy was up at the net
Dude at 3:22 calls that out, and they're friends? Woof.
And on 3:34 dudes serve was totally out wide lol
Very helpful, especially Scott's commentary -- lots of good insight into how to approach points as a team. Thanks to the guys for their willingness to play! I can feel Steve's hesitance to take balls at the net -- glad I'm not the only one...
Steve, is normally all over the net especially crossing with his forehand and foot speed. However, a 4 hour car ride and hotel beds left his back very tight and uncomfortable and he wasn't his normal self. We did roll the next to opponents we played in our USTA League.
@@jimsichterman4684 Glad you guys won your next match! I could tell he was a player.
Looking forward to see my partner and I play. Video doesn't lie! I'm always wanting to observe and learn. It's how we get better. The guys and I had a great conversation about the match on the way home and things we can work on.
I respect you and your teammates a LOT for putting yourselves out there to learn and improve, Jim! 💪🙏
Did you play nationals in Surprise AZ? Could swear I saw you there. Anyway, good stuff from all. Cheers.
Jim, watching this showed me that you come to net even more than I realized. I also saw that I stand around way more than I realized. Definitely gotta get some happy feet and get moving more. You set a good example in that first set as far as crashing the net and making good things happen.
15:45 @Jim Sichterman This long rally point reveals the very late FH racket prep by Jim. This is a very common issue. Might be something to work on, going forward. Big thanks to all 4 guys. Great skills and lots of talent here. I love how you guys charge the net. Lots to learn here for all of us.
@@vmmv402 Absolutely, something I've been working on along with better footwork, hard to break those bad habits, last year here I was very slow reacting and moving, better this year, but still lots of work to do!! What a great game and great input from my teammates can only help us get better! I also need to get a more aggressive first serve so I can get a few free points and hold easier.
3:20 that ball was in
I love seeing amateur doubles match play like this - it really helps me learn a little more where I should stand, which shots work in which situation, etc. It's so much more relatable to my real world experiences than professional tennis. Only one thought - I'd love if some of the talking points pointed out & replayed some good strategy or shot or something so I can learn something maybe I didn't catch on my own. I found myself just pausing the video to predict where the players should reposition themselves and which shot should maybe be hit. It was very helpful - thanks Ian!
Glad you enjoyed it, Amy!
I’m pretty sure a big reason Ian is recording these matches is to be able to do a breakdown later on to teach strategy / tactics!
Doubles is the game for most amateur tennis players, and this match shows the allure of doubles: the ebbs and flows, the great shots, the missed opportunities -- its all there in this match. I appreciate the rapport between Scott and Ian; they really complement each other as commentators. Scott has great insights on doubles tactics and nuances. I would love to see him and Ian team up in a doubles match and hear their comments in the heat of battle. Show us more doubles matches!
Nice to see some doubles, glad that we could hear the players talk strategy. Might have been helpful to have a server indicator in the scoreboard for doubles matches.
Glad you enjoyed the doubles, Van! Thanks for the reminder RE server indicator. We'll be adding that.
Lot of fun, more doubles, please. Thanks for all of your hard work, I really enjoy your content.
More to come!
Loving the continued sports casting collaboration of Ian and Scott! Gentle/sportsmen players of great skill! So fun to watch. Looking forward to part 2 guys! Awesome job ET Team!
More to come!
Anybody else watching this more intently than the Australian Open? You guys are killing it with the amazing content. Keep up the great work!
15:45 @Jim Sichterman This long rally point reveals the very late FH racket prep by Jim. This is a very common issue. Might be something to work on, going forward. Big thanks to all 4 guys. Great skills and lots of talent here. I love how you guys charge the net. Lots to learn here for all of us.
Great commentary! Inspiration to get better at volleys, they are critical in doubles!
Loved how Ian and Scott talk about sensing momentum shifts and proper doubles intention. A miss when you're aiming for the right shot is better than losing your mind and blasting a return. Would love to hear more about that.
Totally agree, tyghr!
Love this. Great content as ever
Glad you enjoyed it, Chris!
You guys keep getting better. It is incredible.
Appreciate your support, Rodya!
Great stuff and super helpful! I love that you dont primarily focus on professional tennis players and showcase "us normal tennis players" that love the game and desire to get better. Thanks again Ian and Scott, enjoyed the commentary.
Glad you're enjoying it, Bobby!
Great content! I noticed that the non returner on the return team often was inside the service line, leaving them out of place for the volley from the up man on the service team. Prime example at 22:05. I notice this a lot at 4.0 level where they are often to eager to be at the net instead of protecting against the easiest volley for the front man and waiting to go to the net when the ball is passed the front man.
This is a really good point. If I'm the non-returner I will line up pretty much on the service line but angled toward the net player, precisely in case they intercept and it comes anywhere near, then move up if it passes as you say,
Competitive, entertaining, volleys started getting better in the second half of the set ... good job guys!
Thanks for watching George!
Another thing for 4.0s to develop - more signals, more movement at net - fakes, poaches (called or not called) to create chaos and force errors. Part of that is getting comfortable tracking the ball, shot sequences, etc. but another aspect is to eventually just start experimenting and GO when you think you see something predictable to a crosscourt shot coming next.
Good to see some doubles! Nice video
More to come!
There's a really interesting tactic here from Jim, taking so much pace off your serve you can be right in at the net to get the return. Never thought of that
oh oh oh, I didn't know you guys had this doubles up. Great!
I'm ready to play with Scott against Ian and Mark tomorrow. His commentary has me fired up.
Bring it! 💪
Let’s go, Ryan! We can take em!
Lefty/Righty vs Lefty/Righty ... would be fun!
PLEASE tell me you'll be recording this!
All four players are doing an incredible job out there. If I may point something out, I think that Jim and Steve would benefit a lot if they changed their mental trigger to hit the ball. It seemed thet both wait the ball to bounce to start their swing. I really enjoy seeing @Scott Broady preparing his strikes earlier, so he can really get the ball at the right time.
Glad you're enjoying it, Pedro!
Love the hype and build up ! Entertaining content. Let’s go! 💪🏻
Glad you're enjoying it!
Hi Ian!
Do you have a tip for feeling comfortable with an continental grip while serving? My student always starts using the eastern grip because he feels uncomfortable with an continental grip.
great first set! on to set 2!
I love singles, but find the strategy and communication required to play doubles makes for much better spectating. Interesting match.
The camera at the rear of one end is fairly limiting in view. Have you ever tried a side view camera far enough away or wide angle enough of a lens to see the entire court.
3:21 that’s totally in. Hate to see people cheat like that
Great seeing 4.0 play! Would be nice if you could comment on what they are doing well and what/where they should improve throughout the game to reach 4.5.
More commentary on the way!
As expected, great competitive match! And great commentary from Ian and Scott. Paul/Fred had a strong first set exposing Steve/Jim team weaknesses. Good 4.0+ doubles teams make major adjustments in the second set after losing the first - will they do it? Try things like lob returns, Aussie formation / I formation, poach more aggressively. The winning team should also play more aggressively early in the second set to try to "break" the losing team. Can't wait to see what happens!
Glad you're enjoying it, Eric!
Another entertaining video. Good and solid doubles action!
Glad you enjoyed it!
It's different playing teammates vs. opponents you haven't met before in terms of coming up with adjustments or being unpredictable. Steve seems good at the net and hit some nice volleys, he could have hit even more if he wasn't so concerned with the alley. Just noticed since poaching and being more active in the middle is my focus area too!
Always good to hear from you, Sabina!
Great content.. Awesome players
And on 3:34 that’s totally out wide lol
In the 1st game at 0/30 the return bounced on the line. The next point the serve looked wide.
Thanks for the calls.
Great playing! The strategy involved with doubles is the reason I don’t play doubles. Lol.
It's totally different than singles!
what fun cant wait i would love to see mark versus mike though
Coming pretty soon!
🍿🍿🍿
That’s an intriguing matchup
Who is Mike?
@@kwallin8136 he’s the not-so-old guy that Cole recently played.
It actually takes a more developed skill set to play good doubles. Players must be able to place their return of serve and ground strokes to avoid the second opponent. Doubles is more demanding in this regard. Being able to effectively volley and hit overheads is essential. Even at the 4.0 level there are many players who do well in singles but don’t have the skills or strategy for doubles. Good all court players that have aggressive approach/ volley and serve/ volley singles game make good doubles players. Martina Navratilova is a great example.167 career singles titles and 177 career doubles titles which is Open era record.
This feels more like the tennis I play. Loving it.
Thanks for the support, Brian!
Very good, more doubles contents please, I'm sure majority of watchers are doubles players.
Good commentary Ian and Scott! I was pretty surprised at how many unforced errors both teams made on neutral and even put away balls. Looking forward to seeing the next set - maybe it was mostly just due to settling in. Both teams have fairly good movement, but feels like their technique and unforced errors are really letting them down
Agreed- too many "easy" balls that were missed. No great reason but, as you point out, technique (and footwork) was probably the cause of a lot of those misses. Seeing it on video helps me to get a better idea of what I'm doing so I can better address my deficiencies. I don't plan on being the next coming of Roger, but I know I can put forth some effort to improve. Would be interesting to see a stat line at the end of set 1 and set 2 looking at unforced errors, double faults, etc.
Great to hear your thoughts, Fred!
@@fdery45 Always love to see such a positive attitude on improvement! Keep it up, you've developed great doubles instincts!
Great job, guys! Would love to hear why Jim went away from serve/volley, seems like a staple of his game
Entertaining, Educational, and Informative 👍🙏
Glad you enjoyed it!
Good stuff guys!
Thanks for watching, Garrett!
I’m not a huge fan of playing doubles but it is very fun to watch!
Glad you enjoyed it!
What advice do you have when you never have the same partner ? On my USTA team we get switched around all the time. It makes it’s really difficult to create a sustainable game plan and to use signals effectively.
You can talk before every shot, serve direction and poach, fake or stay. Keep it simple but make sure your partner is comfortable with it, keep talking and see what works. Try to adapt your game to set them up.
Saw the video like 26mins long.. then while watching, it was like oh it's done? Good game to both teams and Fred looks like he will come at you and smash the ball into oblivion
Glad you enjoyed it!
I think basically a lot of players don't use signs is because they can't serve where they want (kick, slice, on the t, wide out, on the figure, etc), and they simply try the big first serve and a normal sloppy second serve just to get the ball in play.
Anyway great video, as usual!
So take out the serve location part of it!!
We often use directional signals but we all know each other's games so well that it's a moot point most of the time. Paul knows where my serve is going 90% of the time based on his play call in a normal formation. We mainly use directional signaling when in I-formation.
Is there going to be a 250k special?
Probably not....we'll just keep posting videos, haha
Well. Doubles are a different animal. Me personally, my performance in doubles is way below the one in singles as my main deficies are serve and volley.
When I watch players on the somewhere 4.0 level, the first thing I try to check is their deficies. Even the best player on the court, Fred, has a weakness compared to the other guys. His backhand. I would try to hit every serve to his backhand. The other guys benefit from their tennis I.Q., but aren't the best athletes. I would try to make them run which is more difficult in doubles.
The level of play here is quite good. The only part I would complain about is the low consistency on overheads which doesn't fit the overall quality. They should get lessoned by Ian who is very very good on volleys and overheads.
Thanks for the feedback. I think everyone would agree that none of our overheads were "on" that day. I don't think any of us has played a match where we've missed even 2 OHs in the entire match in quite a while. I played a mixed match 2 days after this and somehow found my OH again. Wish I had it this day, but such are the inconsistency struggles for guys at our level. You're correct- my biggest weak link is my BH and these guys know it and try to feed it. In turn, I've improved the shot (believe it or not) and work on running around it and hitting a FH. Definitely something we work on in practice- improving our weak links to make them less of an anchor come match time.
I love doubles! Good job to everyone! I’m so excited because I’ll be playing an actual set! Ian, do you like singles or doubles better?
Personally, I like doubles better. I like the action and excitement!
@@EssentialTennis Me too! Sometimes it’s hard not to blame the partner. And communication is key!!!
@@spongebob1849 blame the partner when you lose, but remember to always take credit when your team wins....
This is the way
@@MarkSansait Thank you Mark
Fred is using a pro staff blitz.
Neat video,... but “...I’m Fred I’m a 4.5, but I have a 4.0 team”...🤔🤔..what am I missing?
Damn, I actually watched this and it was very entertaining! Imma delete my other comment, I’m an idiot sometimes when I see something I don’t like.
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Glad you enjoyed it, Kaysun!
@@georgebasham2279 can you unlike my video
@@KaysunKhales Hey KK hope you are doing well. Sorry to be a clueless boomer, what video do you want me to "unlike"?
Tried to check tennislink to see if any of you guys made it to OKC in 2015 for 4.0 18+ sectionals, but as usual the damn thing is broken. :)
Weak!
Craig, think 2016 was our first time, had 18+ and 40+ 4.0 teams that year.
@@jimsichterman4684 Cool, thanks, looking forward to seeing set 2 (and 3?) :) Well done guys.
Come on to youtube to watch the kyrgios game, but actually prefer this 😂 great that you bring back Mark and Broady all the time, I like them 👍🏻 still waiting for you to find a real challenge for cole tough. You can learn a lot from his reflections and decisionmaking as he as he is a little bit less capped skillwise (no offense to the other competitors)
Hopefully Cole will be back soon!
Some big differences between skill levels on display. 3.5? Tons of misses at net. 4.0? Mix of good and bad. 4.5+? Misses stand out as they don't occur often on neutral/offensive shots.
At 0-30 that was so in
You've said a lot in the past that your court is very fast, it's even more obvious in doubles as some volleys are not hit super hard but are still crushing as they lose almost no speed at all ! Quite crazy
Yup, it's speedy!
@Scott Broady - dat pot stir doh. Whew!
A spicy stew!
😆
Love seeing doubles. Ladies next!
Absolutely!
I'm confused, Fred said he's a 4.5 player, then mentioned his 4.0 team. You can't play down a level, right?
I'm guessing he probably captains a 4.0 team but doesn't play on it.
@@RichardOw Fred is a 4.5 player, got bumped up last Sectionals when he and Paul rolled over everyone they played. I'm the Captain of the 4.0 team and Fred was one of the guys who wanted to play for me. At that time he hit everything hard but didn't know where it was going and didn't have a backhand. He's worked hard on his game to get where he is. Ian asked me to put together the most competitive match and these were the guys that could take time away to come play. May bring others next time if we get an invite. I'd love to bring a couple of team and play some local 4.0 teams from the Milwaukee area.
I played with these guys in 18+ and 40+ when rated 4.0. I still practice with them on a weekly basis. Great set of guys who are really competitive on the court. Jim captains all the teams in town, or so it seems. I don't have the time to do so.
I still hit hard and have no idea where the ball's going but they're dropping in a bit more now. Must be the strings ;)
Thanks for the details, Jim and Fred!
I love this it reminds me of the old dudes at the park 😂
Haha...right after I wrote a long comment a few minutes ago at 4-2 about Steve's net play because he had been terrible up to that point I had to stop to comment. When they got to 4-3 even Steve commented about his net poor net play...he called it "frozen" and he needs to cover the middle...and I admire Steve for seeing and calling his bad. Wonder why Scott and Ian did not see this problem.
GOD forbid anyone video me play but it’s great to get to watch others. Interesting how so many of the shots missed are on backward or side movements in the body instead of taking it out front and moving forward. Those balls must be moving quickly. I’ll have to keep that in mind when I play.
I had to stop at 4-2 to comment that Steve, the bigger of the older team is not helping his partner at all at the net. He had a couple easy volleys coming to him early near the net in the set and he missed them. Then he missed a few more difficult , but still routine volleys in match play when he positioned himself near the service line. Also, he failed to even try to reach for so many balls within his reach at the net even his partner commented he thought Steve should have owned it. Even Scott was commenting about how Steve was not moving for the ball.
You see Steve making some movements at the net, but you don't see him making any plays...or even touching any ball by design...that is because his movements were mostly wrong and posed no threat to his opponents. He would move out to protect the alleys even before the ball is hit and leaving the center open all the time. He tried one out of control and unsuccessful poach not even getting close to the correct direction of the ball...and Ian said he loved it. Yes...poaching is good, but Steve poached so poorly along with so many other things he did very poorly. The other guys were not pros, and they made mistakes also...but they all made points at the net. Steve was the only one so far who could not plays and points at the net, and in the game of double that is the definition of being useless.
Steve had a good serve, but that was all I saw this match up to now...4-2. Up to now, he is more of a threat to his partner...making easy errors, not really being involved at the net because of his wrong movements. Jim is really playing against 4 people out there and Steve is his biggest threat. I will continue the match, but doubt that Steve will suddenly know how to play doubles and play correctly helping his partner.
"Real Guys Playing Real Doubles"
Absolutely!
Don't tell me Jim doesn't look like Michael Scott and Joe Gatto haha. Even jokes like them
That's what she said....
hahaha
Sometimes I can’t tell if Scott is 39 or 59. Ya know?
I’m cool with that first part...😬
4.0???
Oof, right off the bat a bad line call. I know we all make bad calls but really? We give our opponents the benefit of the doubt. It's part of the code.
Bad calls on the first game for sure. Geez. Lol
Not sure why players are hitting DTL when the net player isn't super aggressively poaching. The net player is just simply putting the balls away.
All jokes aside, during a pandemic, I am curious why no one is wearing a mask or doing any social distancing. Are folks showing proof of a negative COVID test before playing at your court? Or are folks simply risking it and playing anyway? Where I live doubles teams are required to wear masks, and that's outside.
We're taking necessary precautions. Thank you for your concern!
Great match, commentators should have been left out. Really bad for the video.