Yo Austinite of 25 years here; Yeah the land totally costs 450K$ on its own no joke. Don't judge these homes by their price tag. If they did the same thing somewhere else, it would be so much cheaper.
Concrete Printing is very cost effective, when you compare to traditional wood stud and drywall, etc. The reason why it's pricy. Because the general contractor is greedy.
Beautiful homes. Pricey, but yeah, here’s to the economy of scale. I think once there is prolonged investment and r&d, we could potentially see efficient, ecological, beautiful, and affordable homes gratefully adopted by millions. Great video mate 👏🏻
Enjoyed the video and commentary. You have a lot of insight on this construction method. It's interesting it looks like they furred out some utility chases but also ran conduit and set j-boxes inside the 3d printed wall. I'm assuming there's good planning and design to coordinated all of the trades. Good job from this builder!
The imperfections occurred because they don't know how to use their slicer. :) Does the ICON control board have motion compensation in the firmware yet?
So do they have estimates for price per square foot that can be adjusted for the area you live? I live In a small town in western Kentucky, where I can buy a lot for 20k
@@LightingLotusLove these lots are in the middle of Austin, the lots, not the construction methods, are the reason why they are selling for 450k I believe. If they sold them lower someone would snatch them all up and resell for higher price immediately. :/
Government should make this companies go public so that they have to declare profitability and control such so that the general public can actually benefit . Otherwise they will charge the same or more make millions and customers will be at the same place
Icon is from Texas the government won't make them do anything. They do have many competitors though which will keep it more fair. R&D is expensive and difficult, those pioneering the tech deserve to be rewarded well for their efforts.
@@automateconstruction I totally agree they should be highly rewarded , they receive tax benefits for all of that they could make good profits and keep houses at affordable prices selling tons and also helping many people be homeowners (they are cheaper in Europe) . Should build all around the country to help many people have homes and have a great impact in many peoples lives with benefits also to the society bringing lower prices housing options not only selling at average prices
Efficient branding and wallstreet hype undercutting of researchers and pioneers who came up this technology to help the housing problem. And this video is showcasing a rich person's house to show it off. I found this video patronizing.
Thanks for the feedback, I actually have no financial ties to ICON I’m just reporting on the matter. Was there something in particular that gave the perception I was pushing wall st branding narrative?
I think your nose is so far up this corporation butt it’s not even funny. 3d printing researchers sold the wonders of this technology to help the third world and help rapid prototype housing with the intention of providing low cost efficient housing. And what happens? A major company adopts it, builds luxury housing, charges an arm and a leg and pays less for materials. What does this project do for the middle class or poor working families? Nothing.
@@JohnLaFosse The materials they use have a high cement concentration and it's expensive. You won't find me saying 3D printed houses are cheap on my channel. I agree the general narrative is misguided and I have several videos on my channel that I created to fight the false narratives.
Only if your desire to have weird form of the house's walls... For a regular house I would go with regular iron-concrite monolithic construction. Much easier to finish, insulate, maintain and 10 times stronger. This one in the video is a nightmare to install furniture, windows and rest. Everything is rectangular. It's defeats the purpose, initial idea was get a cheap house, but it's opposite :)
What is the problem to sleep in this, but the company failed building the second floor in stock works this is typical American cutting corners never will meet the high standard for energy efficiency, look to Germans then you can learn more to do it right !!
I don't think that 100 or no matter how many, the 3D printed concreted houses will never ever be cheaper than prefabricate concrete houses. This technology is more for effect and customization, NOT to make houses cheaper. Cheap concrete houses are here for decades and 3E is not going to match. And typically less than 1/8 of the house is the cost of walls. Quality windows and doors for the house may cost as much as that.
Some of the owner-builder channels on here say the exterior walls are the most expensive part of the build because of all the different contractors involved in putting up the wall and it's finishing/paint/plumbing/insulation/sidining etc. You've caught my interested on the prefabricated concrete home price though. Would you have a good recommendation for a pre-fab concrete company in the Western U.S.?
@@ezdeezytube We should not confuse "Raw" building (by both common sense and the code) and utilities. The plumbing and electrical lines and stuff is actually more expensive than the walls themselves. And that is without any appliences, ceramic stuff, lights, etc., which is a another expensive item on a budget. The cost of those will be more or less same with different wall technologies. And here in Europe, we have lots of them available, even many choices when it comes to concrete houses. One can have prefabricated hollow bricks to be pumped with concrete on site (even already insulated option), another option are board-gap-insulation panels (again to poor concrete in). Then you have prefabricated panels with different connection systems (mechanically assembled, welded, combination) , different finish style (raw /most common/, boarded inside /for fixing convenience/, insulated outside) and finally raw flat or with pre-made channels, cavities and holes for all utilities. Another thing is, that you can select from pre-designed houses, which is cheaper than custom designed house by an architect. With the first option, they already thought about all the utilities and those channels, cavities and stuff come as standard. No as for availability in the USA, I can't help, unfortunately. I'm sure there are a lot of concrete prefabricators and that they also build a lot of houses that way, but the large ones may be focused only on multi-stories houses. The process itself is very very simple (apart from mixing a quality concrete), so often those house prefabricators are small companies in the vicinity of large concrete company (or on their premises). I can even imagine, that an moderately experienced builder can do the frames for concrete pooring on-site (flat on the ground), since all you need is plywood, timber, polystyrene (for channels, cavities and such) and PE foil (to restrict vaporization). The concrete mixer can haul a cement almost anywhere, these days.
Bro I just want to be able to develop these in Dallas, hey Jarrett do you have anyway to contact someone at ICON I have been trying to reach out and I get nothing....
Interesting concept. I am interested in the materials that are used in the building material. If any is petroleum based the process is in trouble, unfortunately. The acoustics of the home are tricky and may transmit every sound too easily. I would like to tuck a small acappella group into a corner of the great room. No amplification will be needed.
Icon is not spending a dime and selling these homes for 450k. Icon has 207 million in donations. Plans to build 100 homes and selling them for 450k is 45 million dollars. These homes should be priced @ 265 - 300k
Jarret i was sow your videos off te 3d pinter houses tell me about the temperature out off house and de temperature inside the house , becaus you are in desert areas?
I thought that the tiny models could be built under 4 000 to build. Now the price tag went up to 450 000 hmm I wonder what made the price increase by 450 times. Ladies and gentlemen I present you the start of the abuse. "The costs are hidden for a reason." dont get your hopes up people everything is just an abuse today.
How are you maintaining integrity in 3d printed concrete without rebar? concrete is terrible in tension. So any tensile loads will crack the concrete. Also, it is hard to believe that this is faster than ICF. Placing interlocking ICF forms is much faster. The second part of ICF is pouring the concrete. The limiting factor here is how fast you can pour the concrete.
Thank you for the video - nice job. However, the house itself is unimpressive regardless of the price or locality. But then again, perhaps my expectations for this tech is set too high. I have several small scale 3D printers and each are a bit fiddly getting good prints and some things don't scale well and some media is better suited for specific jobs over other jobs. I am just disappointed that it looks so normal making it seem as if there is little to no innovation. It's not even two stories of printed material. ICON and Lennar should be congratulated for making incremental gains and helping to bring acceptance and normality to the media and yes, growth is expensive and time consuming. There is a long way to go but they are taking the brunt of the early adopter's experience - so good on them.
Dumb idea. First, only thing that is 3D printed is the part of the lower level. The stuff that you see on top, the roof, the overhang on the outside, not 3D printed. 3D printing cannot do overhangs. In terms of carbon footprint, this house is a disaster. If this technology were to be adopted widely, it will be an environmental disaster. Oh yeah, plumbing, hvac, electricals, doors, windows cannot be 3D printed. Try remodeling this 3D printed house by knocking down a few internal walls. This thing is a gimmick. This is the Juicero of the construction business. I bet that you can assemble a wall from pre fabbed sustainable engineered wood panels with traditional tools in a tiny fraction of the time that it takes to 3D print that same wall. The engineered wood walls will have a flat finish and will not need dry wall. This video is a joke! This fellow needs to take a few engineering college credits and learn about energy embodiment, basic materials, etc. and do some basic research instead of parroting company propaganda.
I have a degree in business and engineering from Drexel University. Is there something specific your want me to read up on? Maybe watch some of my other videos if you think I’m blindly repeating company claims. I’m independent and unbiased. I am not perfect of course and I’m always learning more.
@@automateconstructionPerhaps you can research a few of of the following issues and justify 3D printing. What is the energy embodiment of concrete used here? How does it compare to cross laminated timber (CLT) and pre-fabbed sustainable bamboo/wood panels? What is the carbon foot print of concrete used here? What about thermal conductivity? What about moisture permeability? There are many issues with the construction method itself. (1) You have to have invest in a large, expensive, and complex machine. You cannot used traditional construction tools. (2) This machine is far from autonomous. You need 2-3 high skilled people to watch over this machine as it does the job. This is a problem even with regular 3D printers. (3) "Fast" is a relative term. Fast compared to what? I am willing to bet that the true time for fabricating a wall layer by layer (printing time + cure time required in between printing N layers) > 10x the time it takes to assemble the same wall with pre-fabbed wood panels. (4) If you make a mistake, there is no going back. (5) On similar lines, there is no remodeling if your internal walls are made from concrete. (6) You will never be able to fabricate overhangs and therefore there is no 3D printing roofs. If you really want to 3D print roof/overhang, you will need to assemble a removable support structure -- that is additional cost in time and labor. 3D printing is a great technique in some situations. For example, fabricating injection molds with complex cooling channels, making lost wax parts for complex art pieces, or custom parts (very small batch) for aerospace (SpaceX raptor engine nozzles). This is not a method for mass construction when we have emerging alternatives that are far better. IMHO this technique is going diametrically in the opposite direction of where we should be going vis a vis sustainability, carbon foot print, energy consumption, and environmental impact. Furthermore, pound for pound, CLT and engineered bamboo panels are much tougher than steel or concrete. You can precisely control the directional properties of CLT and engineered wood panel by controlling the fibre orientations of the different layers. Construction requires only traditional tools, is fast, precise, and can use low skilled labor. Pre-fabbed panel construction is also robust to errors. If there is a mistake, you can recover easily using traditional wood working tools.
They just announced plans to build homes for 99,000 dollars. A great need for affordable housing and helping homeless.
🤗 THANKS JARETT …for sharing the progress 😎 and glad you…SURVIVED THE NIGHT 😉😂😍😍😍
Yo Austinite of 25 years here; Yeah the land totally costs 450K$ on its own no joke. Don't judge these homes by their price tag. If they did the same thing somewhere else, it would be so much cheaper.
Great insight from a local! Locals are rare these days! Thanks.
Great Job Jarett!
Thank you for your hard work and giving us a real account of what is going on in this window into the future.
AMAZING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Concrete Printing is very cost effective, when you compare to traditional wood stud and drywall, etc.
The reason why it's pricy. Because the general contractor is greedy.
Beautiful homes. Pricey, but yeah, here’s to the economy of scale. I think once there is prolonged investment and r&d, we could potentially see efficient, ecological, beautiful, and affordable homes gratefully adopted by millions. Great video mate 👏🏻
400,000. is affordable??
Beautiful?
Enjoyed the video and commentary. You have a lot of insight on this construction method. It's interesting it looks like they furred out some utility chases but also ran conduit and set j-boxes inside the 3d printed wall. I'm assuming there's good planning and design to coordinated all of the trades. Good job from this builder!
And I like the metal lintel they used, seems like a better choice than the wood lintel and blocking used in the Florida 3d printed home you reviewed.
I know the CEO’s son
Can they come to Miami? We have a housing crisis here!
The imperfections occurred because they don't know how to use their slicer. :) Does the ICON control board have motion compensation in the firmware yet?
Your videos are really incredible, Jarett!
Please Change your microphone. Thank you
What do you suggest? This was a new rode mic I just got.
So do they have estimates for price per square foot that can be adjusted for the area you live? I live In a small town in western Kentucky, where I can buy a lot for 20k
I wish, not yet.
@@LightingLotusLove these lots are in the middle of Austin, the lots, not the construction methods, are the reason why they are selling for 450k I believe. If they sold them lower someone would snatch them all up and resell for higher price immediately. :/
Government should make this companies go public so that they have to declare profitability and control such so that the general public can actually benefit . Otherwise they will charge the same or more make millions and customers will be at the same place
Icon is from Texas the government won't make them do anything. They do have many competitors though which will keep it more fair. R&D is expensive and difficult, those pioneering the tech deserve to be rewarded well for their efforts.
@@automateconstruction I totally agree they should be highly rewarded , they receive tax benefits for all of that they could make good profits and keep houses at affordable prices selling tons and also helping many people be homeowners (they are cheaper in Europe) . Should build all around the country to help many people have homes and have a great impact in many peoples lives with benefits also to the society bringing lower prices housing options not only selling at average prices
3d print 200m skyscraper in 30-60 days, that will be impressive to me
Yeah that would be nice
Efficient branding and wallstreet hype undercutting of researchers and pioneers who came up this technology to help the housing problem. And this video is showcasing a rich person's house to show it off. I found this video patronizing.
Thanks for the feedback, I actually have no financial ties to ICON I’m just reporting on the matter. Was there something in particular that gave the perception I was pushing wall st branding narrative?
I think your nose is so far up this corporation butt it’s not even funny. 3d printing researchers sold the wonders of this technology to help the third world and help rapid prototype housing with the intention of providing low cost efficient housing. And what happens? A major company adopts it, builds luxury housing, charges an arm and a leg and pays less for materials. What does this project do for the middle class or poor working families? Nothing.
@@JohnLaFosse The materials they use have a high cement concentration and it's expensive. You won't find me saying 3D printed houses are cheap on my channel. I agree the general narrative is misguided and I have several videos on my channel that I created to fight the false narratives.
What about 3D printing in Sierra Blanca TX?
I don't care about beauty. Cheap sounds good; I want value and affordability.
are the 2nd floors firmly anchored to withstand tornado/hurricane force winds?
Yes there are girders tied into to the structural vertical reinforced columns
Excited for this technology to hit the mass market. It will change everything!
Only if your desire to have weird form of the house's walls...
For a regular house I would go with regular iron-concrite monolithic construction. Much easier to finish, insulate, maintain and 10 times stronger.
This one in the video is a nightmare to install furniture, windows and rest. Everything is rectangular.
It's defeats the purpose, initial idea was get a cheap house, but it's opposite :)
What is the problem to sleep in this, but the company failed building the second floor in stock works this is typical American cutting corners never will meet the high standard for energy efficiency, look to Germans then you can learn more to do it right !!
I don't think that 100 or no matter how many, the 3D printed concreted houses will never ever be cheaper than prefabricate concrete houses. This technology is more for effect and customization, NOT to make houses cheaper. Cheap concrete houses are here for decades and 3E is not going to match. And typically less than 1/8 of the house is the cost of walls. Quality windows and doors for the house may cost as much as that.
Some of the owner-builder channels on here say the exterior walls are the most expensive part of the build because of all the different contractors involved in putting up the wall and it's finishing/paint/plumbing/insulation/sidining etc. You've caught my interested on the prefabricated concrete home price though. Would you have a good recommendation for a pre-fab concrete company in the Western U.S.?
@@ezdeezytube We should not confuse "Raw" building (by both common sense and the code) and utilities. The plumbing and electrical lines and stuff is actually more expensive than the walls themselves. And that is without any appliences, ceramic stuff, lights, etc., which is a another expensive item on a budget. The cost of those will be more or less same with different wall technologies. And here in Europe, we have lots of them available, even many choices when it comes to concrete houses. One can have prefabricated hollow bricks to be pumped with concrete on site (even already insulated option), another option are board-gap-insulation panels (again to poor concrete in). Then you have prefabricated panels with different connection systems (mechanically assembled, welded, combination) , different finish style (raw /most common/, boarded inside /for fixing convenience/, insulated outside) and finally raw flat or with pre-made channels, cavities and holes for all utilities. Another thing is, that you can select from pre-designed houses, which is cheaper than custom designed house by an architect. With the first option, they already thought about all the utilities and those channels, cavities and stuff come as standard. No as for availability in the USA, I can't help, unfortunately. I'm sure there are a lot of concrete prefabricators and that they also build a lot of houses that way, but the large ones may be focused only on multi-stories houses. The process itself is very very simple (apart from mixing a quality concrete), so often those house prefabricators are small companies in the vicinity of large concrete company (or on their premises). I can even imagine, that an moderately experienced builder can do the frames for concrete pooring on-site (flat on the ground), since all you need is plywood, timber, polystyrene (for channels, cavities and such) and PE foil (to restrict vaporization). The concrete mixer can haul a cement almost anywhere, these days.
Bro I just want to be able to develop these in Dallas, hey Jarrett do you have anyway to contact someone at ICON I have been trying to reach out and I get nothing....
Interesting concept. I am interested in the materials that are used in the building material. If any is petroleum based the process is in trouble, unfortunately. The acoustics of the home are tricky and may transmit every sound too easily. I would like to tuck a small acappella group into a corner of the great room. No amplification will be needed.
So what's the advantage of a 3D printed home vs traditional or pre-built home ?
Dear Santa, All I want for Christmas is a 3D house with a wet bar.. pretty please
do they HAVE to put the fuckin container boxes on top? 100 houses uhhh they got only a coupla hundred million to go
Why 3D print? ... if you want concrete walls, just build the forms and pour the concrete.
Icon is not spending a dime and selling these homes for 450k. Icon has 207 million in donations. Plans to build 100 homes and selling them for 450k is 45 million dollars. These homes should be priced @ 265 - 300k
Jarret i was sow your videos off te 3d pinter houses tell me about the temperature out off house and de temperature inside the house , becaus you are in desert areas?
San Antonio, Texas has a housing crisis too! Many people want to buy those types of homes.
I thought that the tiny models could be built under 4 000 to build. Now the price tag went up to 450 000 hmm I wonder what made the price increase by 450 times. Ladies and gentlemen I present you the start of the abuse. "The costs are hidden for a reason." dont get your hopes up people everything is just an abuse today.
No you got fooled by shitty lying headlines they were never $4000 I’ve explained that many times
They look nice 👍
Hi jaret! How do u fix the electrical wiring in the printed house? U print it first or u do the wiring first?
Print it first. You snake the wiring between the walls before you put in your insulation.
@@automateconstruction thank u bro! The question spinning around my head couple of months. Thanks again for the solution.
@@shagrath818 got you fam.
400k in Texas is not affordable…. California residents moving to Texas this is beyond affordable obviously.
It’s central Austin Texas is huge
How are you maintaining integrity in 3d printed concrete without rebar? concrete is terrible in tension. So any tensile loads will crack the concrete. Also, it is hard to believe that this is faster than ICF. Placing interlocking ICF forms is much faster. The second part of ICF is pouring the concrete. The limiting factor here is how fast you can pour the concrete.
Looking very young without a beard)
Where have you seen 3D printed homes in Africa?
3D printing small house is only charged 4000,and this is 400000.00???
It’s not $4000 that’s a myth
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Hate the kitchen in the living room. Come on, how cheap
Thank you for the video - nice job.
However, the house itself is unimpressive regardless of the price or locality.
But then again, perhaps my expectations for this tech is set too high.
I have several small scale 3D printers and each are a bit fiddly getting good prints and some things don't scale well and some media is better suited for specific jobs over other jobs.
I am just disappointed that it looks so normal making it seem as if there is little to no innovation.
It's not even two stories of printed material.
ICON and Lennar should be congratulated for making incremental gains and helping to bring acceptance and normality to the media and yes, growth is expensive and time consuming.
There is a long way to go but they are taking the brunt of the early adopter's experience - so good on them.
you deserve it appreciate the hard work and information you share.
Jarett, you look very young in this video.
At first, I thought this might be old video.
Just shaved that’s all
Just shaved that’s all
What happened to the project in Mexico?
this isnt 3d houses, but half 3d/ half cointaneirs house.... simple cointaner can be low prices option than 3d building
Looking at the broad picture it would reduce prices of wood items. Those wobbly edges can be fixed with linear advance.
No blackout shades?
Great video. How is the acoustics of the house?
Much better than the unfinished 3D Printed homes I’ve visited.
Dumb idea. First, only thing that is 3D printed is the part of the lower level. The stuff that you see on top, the roof, the overhang on the outside, not 3D printed. 3D printing cannot do overhangs. In terms of carbon footprint, this house is a disaster. If this technology were to be adopted widely, it will be an environmental disaster. Oh yeah, plumbing, hvac, electricals, doors, windows cannot be 3D printed. Try remodeling this 3D printed house by knocking down a few internal walls. This thing is a gimmick. This is the Juicero of the construction business.
I bet that you can assemble a wall from pre fabbed sustainable engineered wood panels with traditional tools in a tiny fraction of the time that it takes to 3D print that same wall. The engineered wood walls will have a flat finish and will not need dry wall.
This video is a joke! This fellow needs to take a few engineering college credits and learn about energy embodiment, basic materials, etc. and do some basic research instead of parroting company propaganda.
I have a degree in business and engineering from Drexel University. Is there something specific your want me to read up on? Maybe watch some of my other videos if you think I’m blindly repeating company claims. I’m independent and unbiased. I am not perfect of course and I’m always learning more.
@@automateconstructionPerhaps you can research a few of of the following issues and justify 3D printing. What is the energy embodiment of concrete used here? How does it compare to cross laminated timber (CLT) and pre-fabbed sustainable bamboo/wood panels? What is the carbon foot print of concrete used here? What about thermal conductivity? What about moisture permeability?
There are many issues with the construction method itself. (1) You have to have invest in a large, expensive, and complex machine. You cannot used traditional construction tools. (2) This machine is far from autonomous. You need 2-3 high skilled people to watch over this machine as it does the job. This is a problem even with regular 3D printers. (3) "Fast" is a relative term. Fast compared to what? I am willing to bet that the true time for fabricating a wall layer by layer (printing time + cure time required in between printing N layers) > 10x the time it takes to assemble the same wall with pre-fabbed wood panels. (4) If you make a mistake, there is no going back. (5) On similar lines, there is no remodeling if your internal walls are made from concrete. (6) You will never be able to fabricate overhangs and therefore there is no 3D printing roofs. If you really want to 3D print roof/overhang, you will need to assemble a removable support structure -- that is additional cost in time and labor.
3D printing is a great technique in some situations. For example, fabricating injection molds with complex cooling channels, making lost wax parts for complex art pieces, or custom parts (very small batch) for aerospace (SpaceX raptor engine nozzles). This is not a method for mass construction when we have emerging alternatives that are far better.
IMHO this technique is going diametrically in the opposite direction of where we should be going vis a vis sustainability, carbon foot print, energy consumption, and environmental impact. Furthermore, pound for pound, CLT and engineered bamboo panels are much tougher than steel or concrete. You can precisely control the directional properties of CLT and engineered wood panel by controlling the fibre orientations of the different layers. Construction requires only traditional tools, is fast, precise, and can use low skilled labor. Pre-fabbed panel construction is also robust to errors. If there is a mistake, you can recover easily using traditional wood working tools.
:) Thank you.
top notch brother!
They should've printed at smaller layer height, i can litterally see each layer 😂
How much are these houses ?! Thx
450k -1.2m I believe.
Why is there an electrical panel above the master bedroom headboard wall?
It’s a great idea , but answer this Aren’t only the exterior walls actually printed ?
Still want two 3D printed duplexes in the back of my property
Would you pay what this one cost? And to clarify you mean 4 units total right? 2 separate 2 unit buildings?
@@automateconstruction yes I would, I think it’s worth it to advance the technology and I want to be part of it in Colorado
@@AndrewKuntzman If thats the case then I think you have a good chance. Only problem now is there aren't any concrete printers in Colorado yet!
@@automateconstruction I know right let’s work on that ;)
Interesting video! Would it be possible to offer subtitles in different languages?
If you click settings you should be able to choose the language
Commercials way too long
My virtual village plug or the ads UA-cam puts in?
@@automateconstruction YT ads.
How do you get them to print an individual one for you
Not possible at the moment
Great video, what is the traditional for a traditional house in same area?
Сколько стоит оборудование какие его характеристики и возможности
no captions
i am crying inside.
why are deaf people hated so.
I think if you click the settings button there is a way to turn on cc if that doesn’t work how can I make it more accessible?
@@automateconstruction will you be doing this in California any time soon?
can i join with you?
The price is too high
i want to buy 1
Crazy price