Maggsy97 Huh, you're right. I never knew that. But to be fair, it wasn't a useable move so I wouldn't count it being "in" Zestiria. It was featured and used by an enemy, but I wouldn't count it as a return, so much as an homage or a tribute.
Am I the only one that feels like tales fo mystic artes have lost their... Oomph? Like, they are so short and less intense as they used to be. They even ruined jude's MA and made it have a less intense ending.
Longer MA doesn't mean a good MA, just look at symphonia. And man, to be perfectly honest, only Destiny DC and Rebirth had those awesome mystic artes that you speak about. Not even vesperia, symphonia (especially symphonia...) and abyss had, only a few MAs were actually good. And Jude's MA is much better in this game. Though I didn't really like Milla's tbh.
Rafael Menezes I understand what you mean, it's more just how I feel I guess. Personally, I like the others games like graces f, vesperia and xillia 1/2's MA's more than this games because they just seemed cooler to me. I guess since I'm comparing them to this game it just feels less intriguing to me. So really, on my part it's just a matter of my taste i guess.
Well, it is a matter of opinion. I agree about graces f's MAs, i think they should be a point of reference to the series in this matter, along with Destiny DC. Vesperia had some cool ones but not enough (for me at least) to call it a tales with the best MAs. I love the xillias (x1 being my first tales and xillia 2 being one of my favorites, even though its full of problems), but its the same case as vesperia, but with the downside of the graphics. I'm sorry if I sounded rude in my previous post btw. At the end, your opinion is yours and no one, including me, has the right to force what they think is right or wrong.
Rafael Menezes Nah, it's fine. I didn't mind, I like talking to people about these kinds of things. Vesperia was actually my first tales of game so I have that nostalgic feel when I remember that game. I agree though, I wouldn't say that those games had the best mystic artes but I did like how cool and fun they looked. In all honesty, I guess I should have said that I really don't mind the length of the mystic arte, I just want the type of mystic arte that as i said before, looks really cool, you know that epic finisher for every fight that you want to use whenever you can. You know, just the satisfaction of finishing off with that favorite move you love so much in that game. I agree though, xillia was full of problems but it was still one of my most favorite tales of games.
I know what you mean about the coolness of the MA. It's like you said, i don't think the length matters too much. We had awesome MAs that were rather short (although it depends if other will think the same) like Woodrow/Garr's Resshou Souhajin (his first MA). I will be honest and say that there were some MAs in zest that I liked, like Bolt Tempest (i really don't know why I like that one, i just do), Lailah's second one, Shooting Stars and Azure Apocalypse. About favorites, its funny in my case. My favorite is Graces f, but i have more play time in Vesperia (love this one too), like, of all tales I played, this is the one with the longest play time by a long shot, but at first, it was Xillia 1, because it was my first, then it was Xillia 2. After all this I decided it would be Graces f. The reason being that, regardless of the problems it has, I had the most fun playing it than the others (not that the others are bad, I love them actually). I think that the best one is the one you have the most fun with. Oh yeah, I love abyss too, downloaded it recently on my pc to play and I'm having a blast with it, awesome story imo.
Looks like Luke isn't the only user of Lost Fon Drive anymore. And it seems Kyle isn't the only user of (Zeppa Messhougeki) anymore either. And another user of Indignation alongside Rita, Jade, Cheria, Spud (Spada), Kongwai, Teach (Will), Shirl (Shirley), Philia & Clemente, Genis, Meredy, Keele, Arche, Chal (Chalcedony), Beryl, and Arria.
I don't get the hate the newer mystic artes get. My first Tales game was Xillia and I liked those mystic artes. I think that Graces f and this game have the best mystic artes in the games. Then again I've only played Vesperia through Zestiria and I'm not really sure if I'll pre order Berseria, unless the Legacy outfits are pre order only like Zestiria. Keep in mind this was my opinion so I don't suggest forcing your opposite opinion down my throat because those types of people give me really bad headaches and it's just tiring and annoying.
It's mostly because compared to the older versions like Abyss or Symphonia, or even the earlier ones like Phantasia, most of them were slower, but they had a more powerful impact. We get to see most of the characters, like prepare themselves as they prepared their ultimate attacks. It gives off a sense of power and achievement when you could pull them off. Compared to most of the recent ones, where it just comes and goes so fast, that it doesn't give off the same types of feeling of power the older versions give.
Go look up a Hi-Ougi compilation video for Eternia (the first game with 'actual' Hi-Ougis), or even the PS2 remake of Destiny and it's sequel Destiny 2 and compare for yourself.
Would have to think about it to even have an opinion, but did you think about that last sentence at all? You shove out your opinion then say people who shove out their opinons give you headaches? : /
Kougeru Everything. The 2d cut ins have fewer movements and effects to them and the 3d animations for the mystic artes themselves just look stiff and rushed when you put them next to Zestiria and Xillia's animations. That, and the motions everyone's bodies make don't look powerful per say. A lot of strikes have antagonistic movements to them elsewhere in the body. Did they get a new 3D animator or something? Jeez.
3:17 これ自力で発動出来た人凄いと思う🙄
ジュードもミラもTOX、TOX2の時とはまた違った台詞でいいね
光翼天翔くんも含めればユーリの秘奥義どっちも出てんだね
安定と信頼のリーサルペイン
ベルベットのインパルスディザスタの「付き合いなぁ‼」ってところめっちゃ好き。あとｾﾞｯﾊﾟﾒｯｼｮｳｹﾞｷの「ｾﾞｯﾊﾟ‼」ってところも。
憎しみと怒りをめっちゃ感じる。
ディザイアでした
アルトリウスの秘奥義、ユーリの秘奥義っぽいなって思ってたら本当にそうだったwwwてか仕事早すぎwww
最後。。。それにしてもやっぱりベルベットかっこいいな！
これ見てると「あれ？こいつ秘奥義使えたんだ知らんかったわ」て言う奴が数名おる
やっぱりインディグネイションはかっこいいなあ
いくつか聞いたことがある技がｗ
それにしても、やっぱりテイルズは技名にセンスを感じる・・・
厨二達の大好物w
Masaru Ohira
なんか、中学生とかなら放課後に叫んでそうだよねw
「魔神剣！」とかってww
懐かしいね～♪
大体の年齢がバレるよw
今の時代、市民プ－ルで魔神剣も出ないかもね。
ちなみに俺はデスティニー以降知りません。
Masaru Ohira
なん…だと！？Σ(°Д°)
でも確かにテイルズ知っている人少ないかも…
ちなみにテイルズVSなどの多数作品の出るゲームでの知識しかないw←
those lv3 Mystics makes up for Zesty's trash MA's in spades
these still aren't all of the MA's, they have linked ones as well.
Do you know where we can see those ?
アイゼンかっこええ
ウェイストレス・メイヘムって秘奥儀完全に一歩のデンプシーロールじゃねーか
Indignation has made a glorious return. I'm so happy. *sniff*
ロストフォンドライブあるってことはベルセリアの世界はオールドラントで譜歌の概念があるのかな？
ベルセリアめっちゃ評価高いな
アンチが必死に叩いてて草はえる
3:48
インパルスディザイア
秘奥義3つあるんやー
すげぇ
RETURN OF INDIGNATION AFTER 3 WHOLE GAMES!! (Xillia, Xillia 2 and Zestiria)
It was in zestiria.
+Patrice Kendra There's no Indignation in Zestiria.
Heldalf uses it in the final battle if you don't use all 4 Mystic Artes on him.
Maggsy97
Huh, you're right. I never knew that. But to be fair, it wasn't a useable move so I wouldn't count it being "in" Zestiria. It was featured and used by an enemy, but I wouldn't count it as a return, so much as an homage or a tribute.
At least the fact that *Armatized* Heldalf has Indignation makes for good Berseria foreshadowing. Better than nothing I suppose . . .
リタ以来の正統派詠唱のインディグネイションじゃないかなライフィセットのやつ
あと吉田さん☆ドライブ復活してて草
もう吉田さんドライブにしか聞こえないwww
テイルズ懐かしすぎて久々に買ったんだけど、
いい意味でも悪い意味でもテイルズシリーズ
って変わらないね笑
Am I the only one that feels like tales fo mystic artes have lost their... Oomph? Like, they are so short and less intense as they used to be. They even ruined jude's MA and made it have a less intense ending.
Longer MA doesn't mean a good MA, just look at symphonia. And man, to be perfectly honest, only Destiny DC and Rebirth had those awesome mystic artes that you speak about. Not even vesperia, symphonia (especially symphonia...) and abyss had, only a few MAs were actually good. And Jude's MA is much better in this game. Though I didn't really like Milla's tbh.
Rafael Menezes
I understand what you mean, it's more just how I feel I guess. Personally, I like the others games like graces f, vesperia and xillia 1/2's MA's more than this games because they just seemed cooler to me. I guess since I'm comparing them to this game it just feels less intriguing to me. So really, on my part it's just a matter of my taste i guess.
Well, it is a matter of opinion. I agree about graces f's MAs, i think they should be a point of reference to the series in this matter, along with Destiny DC. Vesperia had some cool ones but not enough (for me at least) to call it a tales with the best MAs. I love the xillias (x1 being my first tales and xillia 2 being one of my favorites, even though its full of problems), but its the same case as vesperia, but with the downside of the graphics. I'm sorry if I sounded rude in my previous post btw. At the end, your opinion is yours and no one, including me, has the right to force what they think is right or wrong.
Rafael Menezes
Nah, it's fine. I didn't mind, I like talking to people about these kinds of things. Vesperia was actually my first tales of game so I have that nostalgic feel when I remember that game. I agree though, I wouldn't say that those games had the best mystic artes but I did like how cool and fun they looked. In all honesty, I guess I should have said that I really don't mind the length of the mystic arte, I just want the type of mystic arte that as i said before, looks really cool, you know that epic finisher for every fight that you want to use whenever you can. You know, just the satisfaction of finishing off with that favorite move you love so much in that game.
I agree though, xillia was full of problems but it was still one of my most favorite tales of games.
I know what you mean about the coolness of the MA. It's like you said, i don't think the length matters too much. We had awesome MAs that were rather short (although it depends if other will think the same) like Woodrow/Garr's Resshou Souhajin (his first MA). I will be honest and say that there were some MAs in zest that I liked, like Bolt Tempest (i really don't know why I like that one, i just do), Lailah's second one, Shooting Stars and Azure Apocalypse. About favorites, its funny in my case. My favorite is Graces f, but i have more play time in Vesperia (love this one too), like, of all tales I played, this is the one with the longest play time by a long shot, but at first, it was Xillia 1, because it was my first, then it was Xillia 2. After all this I decided it would be Graces f. The reason being that, regardless of the problems it has, I had the most fun playing it than the others (not that the others are bad, I love them actually). I think that the best one is the one you have the most fun with. Oh yeah, I love abyss too, downloaded it recently on my pc to play and I'm having a blast with it, awesome story imo.
ジュードとミラかっけえ
Looks like Luke isn't the only user of Lost Fon Drive anymore.
And it seems Kyle isn't the only user of (Zeppa Messhougeki) anymore either.
And another user of Indignation alongside Rita, Jade, Cheria, Spud (Spada), Kongwai, Teach (Will), Shirl (Shirley), Philia & Clemente, Genis, Meredy, Keele, Arche, Chal (Chalcedony), Beryl, and Arria.
Yuri is not the only Savage Wolf Fury/Brilliant Phoenix anymore :V
This is a huuuuuge turn off. Zankou Roueijin should have stayed Yuri's trademark.
For me, Berseria is not even cannon anymore.
インディグネイションはいつも通りだけど漸毅狼影陣と吉田さんドライブはびっくり
やっぱりインティグネイションあったか・・・
打ち間違えた、インディグネイションだった＾＾
まさかのロストフォンドライブ
吉田さんドライブ
消えない傷を！
OMG! これは 穏やかじゃあない❗
HELL YEAH!!! They brought back indignation!!! Eleanor with Lost Fon Drive? oh these mystic artes are good
やっぱりベルベットはジュードとミラの娘って噂は本当やったんか…
Aww Indignation doesnt have that OP feel. Im guessing Magilou's 3rd arte can only be achieved after doing a normin related quest
Maybe
Why does Velvet's little brother give me the Mithos feel?
The hair,the face,the tone.
ロスト・フォン・ドライブはルーク限定の秘奥義であってほしかった…
まさかルークの末えいだったりしてw
@@ver5.215 赤毛だしね。性格はティアかな？
翔破裂光閃でもアリかなと思います。
ジュードとミラ好きだけど、違うキャラをもっと出して欲しいな…
うぽつ!
マギルゥを見るとベリルを思い出す
声優さん違うけど
マギルゥの光翼天翔くんってユーリの天翔光翼剣の…
I don't get the hate the newer mystic artes get. My first Tales game was Xillia and I liked those mystic artes. I think that Graces f and this game have the best mystic artes in the games. Then again I've only played Vesperia through Zestiria and I'm not really sure if I'll pre order Berseria, unless the Legacy outfits are pre order only like Zestiria. Keep in mind this was my opinion so I don't suggest forcing your opposite opinion down my throat because those types of people give me really bad headaches and it's just tiring and annoying.
It's mostly because compared to the older versions like Abyss or Symphonia, or even the earlier ones like Phantasia, most of them were slower, but they had a more powerful impact.
We get to see most of the characters, like prepare themselves as they prepared their ultimate attacks. It gives off a sense of power and achievement when you could pull them off. Compared to most of the recent ones, where it just comes and goes so fast, that it doesn't give off the same types of feeling of power the older versions give.
Go look up a Hi-Ougi compilation video for Eternia (the first game with 'actual' Hi-Ougis), or even the PS2 remake of Destiny and it's sequel Destiny 2 and compare for yourself.
Would have to think about it to even have an opinion, but did you think about that last sentence at all? You shove out your opinion then say people who shove out their opinons give you headaches? : /
さ、最後…ラフィくん…超困っとるやん…💦😅
なんでジュード君とミラ様が・・・
そして狼影陣とロストフォンドライブはユーリとルークの固有秘奥義にして欲しかったなぁ
まぁロストは隠し秘奥義だけど。
0:58 - 1:05 Zankuu Rouenjin/Savage Wolf Fury?! Yuri's gonna be peeved!
Also... happy to see that Jude and Milla are the Cameo Battle contestants this time!
俺も早くプレイしたいなぁ
UPはや！ww
1:13 final boss place.
戦闘面白そうだから買おうかと思ったけど、最後を聞いてヤメた(ｰ ｰ;)
なんでですか？
+KYONKYON ONO 掛け合いでしょ。テイルズが発売されるにつれて戦闘後の掛け合いが寒くなってきてるから。
+C.C. Arthur 自分は掛け合い好きですよ
言い方が悪かったですね・・・。最後ってのはゲームのエンディングの事です・・・。今回も嫌いな終わり方だったので・・・。
+C.C. Arthur 俺が思ってるだけでした
ルークを思い出したわ。
これでも！くらえぇぇぇぇい！！
俺は悪くねーーーー！！！
確か、サブ進めるとでサビーダの秘奥義もあるはずです、まぁとりあえず版ですしいいですけど
声優大変そうやな
何年たってもこんなパターンじゃ飽きる
Hey is that tale of xillia.Is milla and jude but where is ludger
自分用2:14 2:55 3:48
That was beautiful omg
So. Many. HiOugis for your playable characters! I sense bullshit requirements !
アブレイド･ベノムってゴンさんの技じゃね
買うか！！ でもバサラが・・・
合体奥義今回ないんか…
まだわかんないぞ
協力秘奥義あるよ。
把握してる限りだと3つかな。
famfam まじか早く見てぇけど自分で探そうかな
Indignation though
アルトリウスww
敵の方が秘奥義かっこいいてどういうこと
漸毅狼影陣使い回し…
この先ずっとユーリだけの固有であって欲しかった
てか金髪君カッコイイな
サムライ君もカッコイイな
Not absoloute shit like the ones from Zestiria and xillia, but they can still do better. 5/10
Savage wolf fury by artolius.
Eleanor lost fon drive?
あれ、俺の奥義入ってないんだけど、
もっと色々工夫出来そうだけど
演出カッコいいからってわざわざ威力の低い必殺技を使いたいとも思わないし
テイルズといえば必殺技は魅力要素だから、もっと力いれて欲しいなぁ
な、なぜミラとジュードが.....
+ト, s猫クラフ 闘技場があるならそれか裏ダンジョンじゃない？
ミラってイノセンスRにも出てたから二度目の登場じゃんww
ミラのスプリームエレメンツは少し演出しょぼくなったな
あああああああああああ
Lost Fon drive!?
HOW DARE YOU to stole luke hi ougi! lol
アイフリードなに言ってんのかわかんねーよw
ぐうおぉぉぉって言ってますね笑
So choppy... :/
Where. Looks fine for me
Kougeru Everything. The 2d cut ins have fewer movements and effects to them and the 3d animations for the mystic artes themselves just look stiff and rushed when you put them next to Zestiria and Xillia's animations. That, and the motions everyone's bodies make don't look powerful per say. A lot of strikes have antagonistic movements to them elsewhere in the body.
Did they get a new 3D animator or something? Jeez.
無断転載？
to you see sorey or anything
最近のテイルズ使い回し秘奥義多すぎだろ
秘奥義の演出もこりすぎて微妙
これ糞ゲーじゃね？w
作った人に失礼だよ？
え〜でも戦闘の迫力ならいいほうじゃね？
サモンナイトとかよりはいいと思う
I fanboy screamed when i saw Jude and Milla