I personally haven't used the f/2.8 version which would be considered more of a standard photography lens. It has to do with this is made for cinema cameras and t/stops are more accurate for light transmissions, not just depth of field like f/stops. Thanks for watching!
The cine-version is actually based on the same optics as the standard Laowa 12mm 2.8. Thats the reason I may consider buying the photo version because it has an adapter for a 95mm Thread for ND Filters. Otherwise the cine-version clearly have advantages for filmmaking. It depends on if you really need the T-Stops, click-less iris and better housing.
I have the Lawoa 12mm Dream Weaver for my a7s3. I recently purchased the 14mm G Master lens and that is my new go lens for real estate. I may use the 12mm for reels going forward.
I would for RE video work, it' looks great! The only other thing to consider is a zoom lens where you aren't just fixed at 12mm. Depends on if you also shoot other type of work where I zoom lens would be more valuable. Thanks for watching!
Please suggest I want a blurry backround lens for my real estate videography where the host will move from room to room and describe the features of the house.
The wider the lens, the less noticeable depth of field you'll have. I normally use a 15-35 RF 2.8 lens and I'll film the real estate shots at 15mm and then talking parts at 24-35mm. Not as wide, more but noticeable blurry background. So a zoom lens with a wide aperture like 2.8 would be my suggestion!
Hey Andrei, quick newbie question. When I shot interior photos, the light bulbs always have scattering （looks like star....lol). Is it because of over exposure? aperture too big? shutter to slow? dirty lens? or does it have anything to do with environment too dark? Thank you so much. Also, do you think an older lens like Canon EFS 10-22 will still cut it in 2024 for real estate shots? cheers mate
Hey! I think that might be because you shutter is too long if I'm not mistaken. What was the shutter speed? I typically start with these settings - iso 400 or 800, f/8, 1/15 and not longer than .5 sec usually. Thanks for watching!
Thank you buddy for the answer. I was doing interior in a darker environment. I think my shutter was 1/30 F3.5 iso800. Then I was trying different combination, still showing those scattering...maybe my lens just too old...lol @@AndreiRestrepo
Hey Sir... congrats on the video.. excellent.. i have an r5c and bought a Laowa 12 f2.8 (not T2.9) but I can't get really sharp footage. Even using 5.6 - 8.0 ...and my focus around infinity to 0.3.... I'm using a meike adaptor because it is a EF mount. correct explosion.. i really don't know what's happening .. but I never had sharp footage like my rf 14-35 f4.. can you help me with that? thank you
Hey! Hmm, really strange! The footage should be sharp. You can try turning focus peaking on to make sure everything is in focus. Also I zoom into the image to make sure it's in focus before taking the shot
It’s because of the adapter! I have the same problem. The adapter means that the lens is x amount further away from the sensor so the focal range is off. Your only options are taking the lens apart and adjusting the focus range manually( I’m not sure how to do this as there’s zero documentation online) or returning it and getting the RF mount. Which sucks because intentionally bought the ef so I can use an EF to RF drop in filter adapter but that’s part of the issue 😢 good luck
If you feel it's too wide for photography, then just simply move up a bit, get your framing and that's it, and sometimes the lines just line up well where the composition is perfect - depending on the house. Now after getting used to it, I just instinctually know exactly where to set my tripod. We sometimes have 4-5 shoots in a day and wasting time swapping out lenses is not something I want to deal with, it's all about positive workflow. This lens is amazing, it truly has zero distortion, unlike the Laowa 9mm I had on my old M50, that was not a great lens or a great camera body for shooting RE. I currently have a Canon R50 with the Nisi 9mm f/2.8 = 13.5mm full frame equivalent. And in the beginning, it did feel slightly wide, but it was a very easy fix, just position the tripod slightly further up. I am finally getting a full frame soon, the Canon R8 with this amazing Laowa 12mm cine lens. Great video, very informative.
Great lens. But the price is a bit much. But since it's Zero D I can see why. But looking at the 9mm T2.9 for now. I want to use my 7Artisans 12mm T2.9, but not sure of the distortion on it for RE videos.
Yeah, unfortunately real estate is probably the only type of work that can’t be done on the 24-70! Great for detail shots though. Yes, 12-15mm would be ideal for real estate wide shots! Thanks for watching
Oh really? Nice! I just tried and it didn't budge haha. Either way I don't think I could put a traditional filter on it thought huh? Thanks for watching!
Hey! In short, the professional definition between the two is T-Stops are more accurate in terms of light transmission, f/stops are more accurate for depth of field calculation. Really similar but more accurate since it’s a cinema lens. Thanks for watching!
Have you never shot a fully manual lens before? YIKES! Welcome to the party. You need to get yourself some vintage lenses and see what they can do. Its way too much fun to shoot like that. Anymore, that the only way I shoot at all. I literally have my Canon R7 sitting next to me as I type this and it has a Helios 44-2 58mm f2 Type 5 lens on it. While not a great RE lens, it has so many other creative uses. But like a lot of the lenses in my collection, you have to manually adjust the aperture and dial up your own focus. The trick is, just doing it over and over to get faster when shooting fully manual. I'm pretty good at it now. You just need to remember which way is close focus and which way is infinity. Because not all lenses are made the same. I have a bunch of different vintage lenses that I use. Even in the same brand, sometimes it changes from lens to lens. Same goes with the aperture ring. Most of the time f16 or f22 is on the left side and f1.4 or f2.8 is on the right, but not always. You will get better with it the more you do it. As an aside, I recently needed to use my Canon EF 24-70 f2.8L and I totally forgot how to adjust the aperture through the camera... Yeah... so that happened. Eventually I remembered how to use an auto-focus lens again. LMAO!
I just bought that same lens from a friend of mine, such a cool look it makes! Ya, never owned a fully MF lens, just used some here and there on set. That Helios is a lot of fun, gotta use it more! Thanks for watching
Solid review🙌🏽🙌🏽 that 12 is just buttery 🔥
Appreciate you man! 🤙🏼
what's the difference with this and the standand Laowa 12m 2.8?
also wondering
I personally haven't used the f/2.8 version which would be considered more of a standard photography lens. It has to do with this is made for cinema cameras and t/stops are more accurate for light transmissions, not just depth of field like f/stops. Thanks for watching!
The cine-version is actually based on the same optics as the standard Laowa 12mm 2.8. Thats the reason I may consider buying the photo version because it has an adapter for a 95mm Thread for ND Filters. Otherwise the cine-version clearly have advantages for filmmaking. It depends on if you really need the T-Stops, click-less iris and better housing.
Looks awesome! Love LAOWA lenses :) This would be fun to use on the C70
Yeah, bet it would be a beast on there! 12mm is such an impressive image
I have the Lawoa 12mm Dream Weaver for my a7s3. I recently purchased the 14mm G Master lens and that is my new go lens for real estate. I may use the 12mm for reels going forward.
Hey Nick! Nice! Ya, 12mm is pretty nice! Makes my 15mm look not as wide haha. Thanks for watching!
What monitor do you use bro, thanks?
Assuming you mean my computer monitor, I use an LG ultra wide monitor! It's an older one, I believe it's this one. Thanks! amzn.to/48E6dtg
Hey Andrei, would you recommend 12mm for all video? Im looking at the Lumix GH5M2 (4k 60 uncropped).... Thanx
I would for RE video work, it' looks great! The only other thing to consider is a zoom lens where you aren't just fixed at 12mm. Depends on if you also shoot other type of work where I zoom lens would be more valuable. Thanks for watching!
Please suggest
I want a blurry backround lens for my real estate videography where the host will move from room to room and describe the features of the house.
The wider the lens, the less noticeable depth of field you'll have. I normally use a 15-35 RF 2.8 lens and I'll film the real estate shots at 15mm and then talking parts at 24-35mm. Not as wide, more but noticeable blurry background. So a zoom lens with a wide aperture like 2.8 would be my suggestion!
great review interesting how it compairs to the newest 10mm 2.8 also Zero D
Interested in that too, looks sweet! Thanks for watching
always pleasure Man@@AndreiRestrepo
It's an older lens, but I've been eying it for a while! Great review.
Pretty impressive for sure, thanks for watching!
Hey Andrei, quick newbie question. When I shot interior photos, the light bulbs always have scattering （looks like star....lol). Is it because of over exposure? aperture too big? shutter to slow? dirty lens? or does it have anything to do with environment too dark? Thank you so much. Also, do you think an older lens like Canon EFS 10-22 will still cut it in 2024 for real estate shots? cheers mate
Hey! I think that might be because you shutter is too long if I'm not mistaken. What was the shutter speed? I typically start with these settings - iso 400 or 800, f/8, 1/15 and not longer than .5 sec usually. Thanks for watching!
Thank you buddy for the answer. I was doing interior in a darker environment. I think my shutter was 1/30 F3.5 iso800. Then I was trying different combination, still showing those scattering...maybe my lens just too old...lol @@AndreiRestrepo
Hmm, were you using a filter? I had an old CPL filter that wasn’t that great and gave my photos a similar look now that I remember
Hey Sir... congrats on the video.. excellent.. i have an r5c and bought a Laowa 12 f2.8 (not T2.9) but I can't get really sharp footage. Even using 5.6 - 8.0 ...and my focus around infinity to 0.3.... I'm using a meike adaptor because it is a EF mount. correct explosion.. i really don't know what's happening .. but I never had sharp footage like my rf 14-35 f4.. can you help me with that? thank you
Hey! Hmm, really strange! The footage should be sharp. You can try turning focus peaking on to make sure everything is in focus. Also I zoom into the image to make sure it's in focus before taking the shot
It’s because of the adapter! I have the same problem. The adapter means that the lens is x amount further away from the sensor so the focal range is off. Your only options are taking the lens apart and adjusting the focus range manually( I’m not sure how to do this as there’s zero documentation online) or returning it and getting the RF mount. Which sucks because intentionally bought the ef so I can use an EF to RF drop in filter adapter but that’s part of the issue 😢 good luck
If you feel it's too wide for photography, then just simply move up a bit, get your framing and that's it, and sometimes the lines just line up well where the composition is perfect - depending on the house. Now after getting used to it, I just instinctually know exactly where to set my tripod. We sometimes have 4-5 shoots in a day and wasting time swapping out lenses is not something I want to deal with, it's all about positive workflow. This lens is amazing, it truly has zero distortion, unlike the Laowa 9mm I had on my old M50, that was not a great lens or a great camera body for shooting RE. I currently have a Canon R50 with the Nisi 9mm f/2.8 = 13.5mm full frame equivalent. And in the beginning, it did feel slightly wide, but it was a very easy fix, just position the tripod slightly further up. I am finally getting a full frame soon, the Canon R8 with this amazing Laowa 12mm cine lens. Great video, very informative.
Yup, good points! Since I typically shoot 15mm, just not used to it for RE photography but it’s definitely great all around. Thanks for watching!
Great lens. But the price is a bit much. But since it's Zero D I can see why. But looking at the 9mm T2.9 for now. I want to use my 7Artisans 12mm T2.9, but not sure of the distortion on it for RE videos.
I am using 24-70mm lens and realize it is not wide enough for real estate videos. DO you think this Laowa 12mm will help?
Yeah, unfortunately real estate is probably the only type of work that can’t be done on the 24-70! Great for detail shots though. Yes, 12-15mm would be ideal for real estate wide shots! Thanks for watching
@@AndreiRestrepo Thank you for the reply Andrei! I will buy a 12-15mm then. I do have a Sony A7IV, which lens you recommend? (For real estate video)
This one or the other laowa 12mm is really nice, or a Sony g master 16-35!
The built in lens hood unscrews you can remove it
Oh really? Nice! I just tried and it didn't budge haha. Either way I don't think I could put a traditional filter on it thought huh? Thanks for watching!
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What is T2.9 ? Is that a different way of saying F2.9?
Hey! In short, the professional definition between the two is T-Stops are more accurate in terms of light transmission, f/stops are more accurate for depth of field calculation. Really similar but more accurate since it’s a cinema lens. Thanks for watching!
@@AndreiRestrepo Ha. yes, now I recall T stops.. DUH! That was a long time ago they were referred to that. Nice work Andrei
Have you never shot a fully manual lens before?
YIKES!
Welcome to the party.
You need to get yourself some vintage lenses and see what they can do. Its way too much fun to shoot like that.
Anymore, that the only way I shoot at all. I literally have my Canon R7 sitting next to me as I type this and it has a Helios 44-2 58mm f2 Type 5 lens on it. While not a great RE lens, it has so many other creative uses. But like a lot of the lenses in my collection, you have to manually adjust the aperture and dial up your own focus.
The trick is, just doing it over and over to get faster when shooting fully manual. I'm pretty good at it now. You just need to remember which way is close focus and which way is infinity. Because not all lenses are made the same. I have a bunch of different vintage lenses that I use. Even in the same brand, sometimes it changes from lens to lens. Same goes with the aperture ring. Most of the time f16 or f22 is on the left side and f1.4 or f2.8 is on the right, but not always. You will get better with it the more you do it.
As an aside, I recently needed to use my Canon EF 24-70 f2.8L and I totally forgot how to adjust the aperture through the camera...
Yeah... so that happened.
Eventually I remembered how to use an auto-focus lens again. LMAO!
I just bought that same lens from a friend of mine, such a cool look it makes! Ya, never owned a fully MF lens, just used some here and there on set. That Helios is a lot of fun, gotta use it more! Thanks for watching