I look forward to your review after you have used them for a while, especially since you have more than one. If you have any issues, it'll be easy to rule out if you have one lemon, or if they are just not that good, but I'm hoping for great performance.
Totally agree with you on the pain in the butt to do a bunch of button pushing to turn it on to bump fire. What were they thinking? should have a button to change it to bump fire and it STAYS the way you set it.
I have a Hitachi air nailer and nothing has never let me down for 3 years I just had a few jams here and there so I want to wait and see how they perform after a year before I go all in
It's a 60 minute timeout. Same as the other M18 nailers. Speaking of warranty, I don't know if you noticed but originally it had 5 year warranty like the rest of their tools... But they dropped it to 3 year on the framer. I was waiting for this since I love the Gen2 Brad. But i think I'll stick with the paslodes until the end of the year. That was way too long of a delay so either: 1)they discovered a problem and fixed it or 2)they discovered a problem and "think" they fixed it but time will tell So I'm sitting on the sidelines for now because the Gen1 M18 Brad was a complete pile of shit and I'm glad I waited for the Gen2. lol.
I'm in the same boat. Gonna wait to see what people think of it before I sink $700 into it. I'm in Canada so its pricey up here. I heard from a rep that the delay was due to the weight of the tool, I doubt that's true but that's all I've heard. I'm kind of thinking it's a striker issue if anything. Seeing as we need to take off the mag to clear a bad jamb. Could be that it was jamming enough to warrant a fix.
@@DesignsElement Yeah, also in Canada. We get screwed on all pricing. Lol. The weight sounds like BS. Kinda like the 911 "official story" haha. That was way too long of a delay for it to not be a major issue found. The drop in warranty length would indicate its a higher wearing part that was the issue (striker/driver/gas cylinder etc) I mean, you could prove the weight theory if anyone had a pre-production model verse a production. Also, weight... What did they change to reduce it then? Re-engineer the entire gun, because it looks the exact same to me and you're not going to retool everything to save an ounce. Lol
Element the delay was due to user error... if you noticed him nailing bump fire mode... , the wood was wobbling around and shaking badly... I think when you nail something down it has to be stable or atleast hold em... it also explains at to why nail didn’t sink in properly because it was wobbling ... I think $700 is pretty good price... you’ll get your money back in 1 project for this no problem...
The delay is not user error I can replicate it well nailing beams etc. If you are pulling the gun back up as soon as you have it on the wood the nails will not seat entirely. It needs a 1/10 second or something to start the firing sequence. If you do bump fire as fast as possible the nailer will come down to soon and the nailer will not fire as well. Now I definitely dont see it as a problem if guys are running them that fast they are probably not being very accurate. I definitely agree they are worth the money in production on a job we shall see how durable they are yet!
We are in Ontario Canada and one of the stores ordered 12 so it was shipped sooner but stores that ordered a skid are still waiting on them to deliver. I dont know about other areas how it is.
Gingrich Construction tool hut told me they’re on the way and should be any day. They had 30 coming and asked if I wanted to prepay. So I did and then they said I was number 28. Should be here soon!
mister clean .. that’s Canada .. unfortunately .... I live in Canada too but I live close to the US and I buy all my tools in USA .. unfortunately I can’t get this gun right now because of the border closing. Us u say it’s much cheaper in the USA even with the exchange rate .. so I must wait until the border will reopen.
I think the idea for the button holds instead of presses at 4:05 is to prevent you from accidentally turning it on or changing modes if its hitting something on your belt.
Any time something happened with any of my Milwaukee tools I send it in they sent me a new one newer model they're warranty is the best I don't know anybody that's ever had a problem with Milwaukee's warranty
That's how it was for us up till last year then we had a number of tools that they wouldn't warranty because it was water damage and "obviously abuse" we work in the rain and Milwaukee 1/4" hex impacts have always been notorious for quitting on us. I wasn't very happy about it but recently we had a couple of saws and a drill fixed under warranty no problems and the drill was upgraded to the new generation so maybe they heard and have improved.
It will be interesting to see how long the gas charge lasts. I use the 18v hitachi framing nailer and the gas charge only lasted about 8 months. Then I had to send it in for recharge. Hopefully this one lasts longer.
Hitachi, senco, this M18 all use the same nitrogen spring... They're all need to be recharged at some point. No way around it. You can't seal something forever. They're supposed to be good for roughly 100K cycles.
I like it, there is no tool in this world that someone don't have a problem with , what you like someone hates. Just look at your dislike as at now 16 dont like what you say. you can not please people. no matter how hard you try. just enjoy what you have. Thank you for the post.
how heavy are these compared to the hitachi version? Looking to sell mine for this one considering most of my tools are red and I only bought the hitachi because there was a lack of red cordless framing nailers until now lol
Very similar but possibly balanced better. Now we have been running the 9 and 12 amp hr battery when doing walls and floor. 5s if we are climbing or for details but the battery life isn't the best. They also cycle faster with the bigger batteries longer. We only had the smaller batteries with the Hitachi.
They are not reliable enough. Ill be posting a video as soon as I have time. All have gone for warranty and are back now. The striker assembly goes bad. The ones we have now have slightly less power then the first round so simular to air. The first ones were significantly more powerful then air so possibly that was the issue.
@@johnandcompetitionshooting282 yes please make a video soon or elaborate more i just purchased mine 3 days ago and wondering if its worth keeping in the long run or returning and sticking to air . thanks for the heads up though definitely wont be selling my metabo airs anytime soon
Greetings. Really dont see the big issue in having to hold down the button for 3 seconds to turn tool on and then 1 second to change modes. It's better than carrying around that hose although your gun is always ready, at least after that noisy compressor finishes cycling up, lol. Cant wait to see how these hold up after you "abuse tf" out of them, lol. Good job!
Difference is the type of nail they shoot. Many southern State codes require nails that the 21 degree uses. Most Northern states use the 31 degree nails
This nailer is based on the same finish nailer I have sued for over a year. I think the bump mode thing is just for safety only. I cant wait to get this gun! Paslode guns don't stand up!!
not to be that guy, but you posted "I have sued for over a year" I may be a little slow but I had to read that sentence a couple times to figure out you mistyped, I was wondering if you had been suing them for a year why in the world would you be excited for this item.
Lol! That what we find. I know of one crew that is all they use as well and think they are great. We wanted them to work because of the gusset/ strapshot nailer. We can't get them to work! We call them nail starters lol. New they seem to work but just dont last very long for us.
I’m betting that the long press on the buttons is intentional so that you don’t accidentally bump a button and cause it to switch modes or power on or off. So I would suggest you get used to the idea of long press because it keeps the tool in the mode that you’re going to want to use it and not in some mode did it accidentally gets pressed through incidental contact and your gun is operating in some mode that you weren’t anticipating.
That is what we do! I want the absolute best! If there is no negative feedback to manufacturer's will never improve. We nitpick our own work as well what are small details that we can take to the next level. In actually use we have found it to be a nonissue because the nailer stays on for a hr.
I was told there was a manufacturing issue on the assembly process and they had to reengineer and modify the design. That's what I was told but I can't confirm that's true.
I'm leaning to getting a paslode again after not getting any reviewer to give me a cost on service and refilling of these battery nailers. And yes they will leak down as some have found with the hikoki after some use, but no one will say what it costs. Pissed me off that most of them are sponsored reviews and deny it needs servicing.
I'm not denying that they will need service. We run a large variety of Milwaukee and they all fail just like everyone else. The Milwaukee nailers have not been out long enough for one of them to need service yet. The Hitachi we used never had to be serviced yet so also cant speak to that. But more on the cost. Up here gas is $18 a cell we bought it by the case so it cost us less. Let's say $10 per cell. 1000 nails per cell on a shop build we run 15000 plus nails so $150. We are building a pig barn on the same site that's another 30000 plus nails so $300 now I'm at $450 in gas that's only 2 builds. I can buy all new cordless nails every 6 months and it's more economical than running paslode. Now I'm not saying paslode is no good we ran them for years and they were awesome for running around doing details but for a main framing nailer in our use case it doesn't make sense.
@@gingrichconstruction7242 Not saying you were denying, I'm referring to others with reviews who don't go into the details. They say these are maintenance free which isn't true. I hear you on the gas savings, just want to know how this is offset with a couple of services etc, as I said, no idea what that is, it's like a little secret. A few have said they lost gas and had them serviced, but won't give up the info. I'll bet their sponsors are not keen to share that. Thanks
@@oo0Spyder0oo I'll try and remember to ask the tool store if they have a cost on a service/ recharge. I'm sure that they do on the Hitachi. Keep in mind this is Canada so we pay a lot more for stuff then if your from the USA. I know what you say service free definitely doesn't mean maintenance free!! I'm sure that we will never be sponsored by a tool company we are way to hard on tools lol! Two jobs ago we burnt out 4 of the drills a gen 1 fuel and 3 gen 2 we had tried the gen 3 last year but they simply dont last..... the drills covered under warranty they gave us gen 3 as replacements for the gen 2! Hopefully they last better then the first gen 3 we had.
@@gingrichconstruction7242 I'm in Aus so our dollar is very close to yours, used to be on parity for quite a while. I usually buy stuff in CAD dollars to save a bit against my own currency sometimes. For eg. the Hikoki framer is $949 AUD with 2 x 5.0ah batteries and charger. That's around $890 CAD at the current rate, how does that compare your way?
The hikoki/ Hitachi framing nailer is only available up here in the 3 ah kits for $580. The tool store I deal with doesn't carry Hitachi and so they do not have service pricing. Now they are a authorized Milwaukee repair center but they still do not have pricing on repairs with the new nailers. For the first 3 months with Milwaukee tools we walk in and give them the tool that failed and they give us a new one. So we should have pricing in a few months.
@@gingrichconstruction7242 the problem is as always, it took the few to ruin it for the many. There's always that one nudnick. I've seen two guys shoot themselves through the hand with framing guns in 20 years as a builder. Luckily , it was when I was an employee and not an employer.
@@gingrichconstruction7242 I think the press and hold is there so that it doesn't accidentally get turned off, or accidentally get switched to a different mode, which I don't think is bad, of course I don't make a living using these tools so I am an outsider looking in. I do however agree with you that the tool should remember the last mode it was in, and if they can't program that into the tool then switch the button for a switch
For maximum safety, the framing nailer defaults to single fire mode after turning off. If it goes to bump fire mode, there is a high risk injury happening when the tip gets bumped against your body.
They are great nailers for the first 3 to 4 months then they start to lose their air and they won't sink nails, I work at home depot and we are starting to get a lot back,these battery operated are not that good for constant use, the finish nailer are good but these framing nailer are a problem
We are seeing around 10,000-15000 nails on average. We have not had issues with loosing air. Its the striker that has been failing. We really were hoping they would be good but..... they still are our go to for smaller jobs
@@gingrichconstruction7242 That's what they're perfect for they aren't going to replace airguns anytime soon, just like impact wrenches they wear out in about a year air guns if oil properly can last years
@@loucifer323 I'll argue on the impacts. Our structural steel guys are getting a lot more life out of the electric. We have impacts from 2015 still. But in shops this could be different.
@@gingrichconstruction7242 They'll last a long time in construction, but in auto repair they've used all day sometimes 7 times a week and the anvil wear out
I bought the nail gun for convenience. I'm in commercial roofing, and we have a project that has us traversing six small roofs. I would say we use it lightly in constructing bases for condensers and wood block perimeters. It's suitable for what I'm using mine for. It sounds like these framing nailer wears down drastically for the career framers in months because they can't handle constant use like the pneumatic guns.
The silly on/off mode buttons are a terrible design, the Hitachi is even worse, I really hope Hitachi listens to the complaints and does a 2nd generation
They are not heavier than a the big coil nailers but yes it would be nice if they were lighter. But on the other hand not having hoses catching is worth a lot as well
Everyone who complains ablut that bump fire mode button is just lazy asf. Yeah we might not like it but its not that big of an issue, you people are just getting lazier and lazier over the years and wanting something you dont even have to move to get working lol
It's more a case of wasting time standing pushing a button when we could be working. Fortunately it stays on for around 1 hr after you turn it on so its never a problem we can stop for lunch etc. And never have to turn them back on during a day.
Lol love the straight out comment! I know of one other crew that really likes the dewalt as well! I dont know what you guys are doing but it must be working!
Gingrich Construction 1st gen dewalt over here I use it as a hammer and framing nailer. Works on everything except really old growth hardwoods when were doing remodels. It sure is bulky though compared to those slick milwaukees you got eh
I like that you have to hold the buttons to change modes. That way we don’t bump it and it change.
I look forward to your review after you have used them for a while, especially since you have more than one.
If you have any issues, it'll be easy to rule out if you have one lemon, or if they are just not that good, but I'm hoping for great performance.
I was starting to wonder if the whole video was going to be on the buttons
I’m still waiting on mine! I wonder why they haven shipped it out yet
Omg I need the milwaukee framer gun♥️
Totally agree with you on the pain in the butt to do a bunch of button pushing to turn it on to bump fire. What were they thinking? should have a button to change it to bump fire and it STAYS the way you set it.
Because that’s deadly. Someone could pick up your tool not knowing what mode it’s in
I have a Hitachi air nailer and nothing has never let me down for 3 years I just had a few jams here and there so I want to wait and see how they perform after a year before I go all in
Hopefully coming to the UK soon
It's a 60 minute timeout. Same as the other M18 nailers.
Speaking of warranty, I don't know if you noticed but originally it had 5 year warranty like the rest of their tools... But they dropped it to 3 year on the framer.
I was waiting for this since I love the Gen2 Brad. But i think I'll stick with the paslodes until the end of the year. That was way too long of a delay so either:
1)they discovered a problem and fixed it or
2)they discovered a problem and "think" they fixed it but time will tell
So I'm sitting on the sidelines for now because the Gen1 M18 Brad was a complete pile of shit and I'm glad I waited for the Gen2. lol.
I'm in the same boat. Gonna wait to see what people think of it before I sink $700 into it. I'm in Canada so its pricey up here.
I heard from a rep that the delay was due to the weight of the tool, I doubt that's true but that's all I've heard. I'm kind of thinking it's a striker issue if anything. Seeing as we need to take off the mag to clear a bad jamb. Could be that it was jamming enough to warrant a fix.
@@DesignsElement Yeah, also in Canada. We get screwed on all pricing. Lol.
The weight sounds like BS. Kinda like the 911 "official story" haha. That was way too long of a delay for it to not be a major issue found. The drop in warranty length would indicate its a higher wearing part that was the issue (striker/driver/gas cylinder etc)
I mean, you could prove the weight theory if anyone had a pre-production model verse a production. Also, weight... What did they change to reduce it then? Re-engineer the entire gun, because it looks the exact same to me and you're not going to retool everything to save an ounce. Lol
Element the delay was due to user error... if you noticed him nailing bump fire mode... , the wood was wobbling around and shaking badly... I think when you nail something down it has to be stable or atleast hold em... it also explains at to why nail didn’t sink in properly because it was wobbling ... I think $700 is pretty good price... you’ll get your money back in 1 project for this no problem...
The delay is not user error I can replicate it well nailing beams etc. If you are pulling the gun back up as soon as you have it on the wood the nails will not seat entirely. It needs a 1/10 second or something to start the firing sequence. If you do bump fire as fast as possible the nailer will come down to soon and the nailer will not fire as well. Now I definitely dont see it as a problem if guys are running them that fast they are probably not being very accurate.
I definitely agree they are worth the money in production on a job we shall see how durable they are yet!
Just ordered one
How did you get this. Still seeing preorder only everywhere. Calling my tool place in the am. Thanks for the vid!
We are in Ontario Canada and one of the stores ordered 12 so it was shipped sooner but stores that ordered a skid are still waiting on them to deliver. I dont know about other areas how it is.
Gingrich Construction tool hut told me they’re on the way and should be any day. They had 30 coming and asked if I wanted to prepay. So I did and then they said I was number 28. Should be here soon!
mister clean .. that’s Canada .. unfortunately .... I live in Canada too but I live close to the US and I buy all my tools in USA .. unfortunately I can’t get this gun right now because of the border closing. Us u say it’s much cheaper in the USA even with the exchange rate .. so I must wait until the border will reopen.
I think the idea for the button holds instead of presses at 4:05 is to prevent you from accidentally turning it on or changing modes if its hitting something on your belt.
I would agree. Check out my two week review for my thoughts on it after using the nailers onsite
Those are freakin awesome did you get only 30”s I’m curious on the 21” for sheathing some areas don’t allow offsets etc
We only run 30 up here. The nailer has a screw hole for a 21 slide not sure if they are available yet or not.
Gingrich Construction dam that’s nice just swap out clips not bad
Any time something happened with any of my Milwaukee tools I send it in they sent me a new one newer model they're warranty is the best I don't know anybody that's ever had a problem with Milwaukee's warranty
That's how it was for us up till last year then we had a number of tools that they wouldn't warranty because it was water damage and "obviously abuse" we work in the rain and Milwaukee 1/4" hex impacts have always been notorious for quitting on us. I wasn't very happy about it but recently we had a couple of saws and a drill fixed under warranty no problems and the drill was upgraded to the new generation so maybe they heard and have improved.
V18 batteries, they wouldn’t honor the warranty on those.
It will be interesting to see how long the gas charge lasts. I use the 18v hitachi framing nailer and the gas charge only lasted about 8 months. Then I had to send it in for recharge. Hopefully this one lasts longer.
We will see our plan is that these will be our go to nailers. Good to know about the Hitachi.
Hitachi, senco, this M18 all use the same nitrogen spring... They're all need to be recharged at some point. No way around it. You can't seal something forever.
They're supposed to be good for roughly 100K cycles.
cpt awesome no spring on the Hitachi, sealed air pressure tank.
I like it, there is no tool in this world that someone don't have a problem with , what you like someone hates. Just look at your dislike as at now 16 dont like what you say. you can not please people. no matter how hard you try. just enjoy what you have. Thank you for the post.
Thanks for your comment. I couldn't agree more nothing is perfect for everyone.
How about a long term review now?
Nothing more durable than Hitachi pneumatic framing gun. But these look impressive.
how heavy are these compared to the hitachi version? Looking to sell mine for this one considering most of my tools are red and I only bought the hitachi because there was a lack of red cordless framing nailers until now lol
Very similar but possibly balanced better. Now we have been running the 9 and 12 amp hr battery when doing walls and floor. 5s if we are climbing or for details but the battery life isn't the best. They also cycle faster with the bigger batteries longer. We only had the smaller batteries with the Hitachi.
Can you give me 1 of your framing nailer? Thanks 👍😎
Nice Milwaukee nailers! what is the appeal of the 30 degree nailer vs. The 21 degree.
21 gets centered round heads instead of of set or clipped. 30 you have less shrapnel flying from the nailer.
Think the 30 holds more nails
Well did it replace the air? I have a Metabo air also holding onto it for now but just purchased the milwaukee
They are not reliable enough. Ill be posting a video as soon as I have time. All have gone for warranty and are back now. The striker assembly goes bad. The ones we have now have slightly less power then the first round so simular to air. The first ones were significantly more powerful then air so possibly that was the issue.
@@johnandcompetitionshooting282 yes please make a video soon or elaborate more i just purchased mine 3 days ago and wondering if its worth keeping in the long run or returning and sticking to air . thanks for the heads up though definitely wont be selling my metabo airs anytime soon
Greetings.
Really dont see the big issue in having to hold down the button for 3 seconds to turn tool on and then 1 second to change modes.
It's better than carrying around that hose although your gun is always ready, at least after that noisy compressor finishes cycling up, lol.
Cant wait to see how these hold up after you "abuse tf" out of them, lol.
Good job!
What would you recommend? 30 degrees or 21 degrees??? I have no clue what the difference is.... Different purposes?
Difference is the type of nail they shoot. Many southern State codes require nails that the 21 degree uses. Most Northern states use the 31 degree nails
This nailer is based on the same finish nailer I have sued for over a year. I think the bump mode thing is just for safety only. I cant wait to get this gun!
Paslode guns don't stand up!!
not to be that guy, but you posted "I have sued for over a year"
I may be a little slow but I had to read that sentence a couple times to figure out you mistyped, I was wondering if you had been suing them for a year why in the world would you be excited for this item.
“Dewalt doesn’t work” lol!
Been using 2 of them exclusively to frame without issue
Lol! That what we find. I know of one crew that is all they use as well and think they are great. We wanted them to work because of the gusset/ strapshot nailer. We can't get them to work! We call them nail starters lol. New they seem to work but just dont last very long for us.
Omg back to single fire mode A
I’m betting that the long press on the buttons is intentional so that you don’t accidentally bump a button and cause it to switch modes or power on or off. So I would suggest you get used to the idea of long press because it keeps the tool in the mode that you’re going to want to use it and not in some mode did it accidentally gets pressed through incidental contact and your gun is operating in some mode that you weren’t anticipating.
That’s exactly what it is. This guy is just nitpicking.
That is what we do! I want the absolute best! If there is no negative feedback to manufacturer's will never improve. We nitpick our own work as well what are small details that we can take to the next level.
In actually use we have found it to be a nonissue because the nailer stays on for a hr.
Why was there a delay in getting it out ?
I was told there was a manufacturing issue on the assembly process and they had to reengineer and modify the design. That's what I was told but I can't confirm that's true.
@@gingrichconstruction7242 thx
@@gingrichconstruction7242 I agree its a bit pricey..
Do this nail gun use collated plastic nails?
Not the ones we have but it looks like they are setup to be able to use a 20 degree magazine once they are out.
Don’t take the battery out then
goes well on hard wood?
Depending on how hard the wood it sank the nails in the hardwood dunnage but I dont know what species it is.
@@gingrichconstruction7242 the Wood is eucalyptus
anymore, most reviews nowadays are just complaint videos with tons of whining.
How are they holding up 3 months later?
They are not. I will be doing a video on our use once we receive them back from warranty.
@@gingrichconstruction7242 10-4.
$700? Its $450 in Iowa?
Sorry I'm in Canada.....
I'm leaning to getting a paslode again after not getting any reviewer to give me a cost on service and refilling of these battery nailers. And yes they will leak down as some have found with the hikoki after some use, but no one will say what it costs. Pissed me off that most of them are sponsored reviews and deny it needs servicing.
I'm not denying that they will need service. We run a large variety of Milwaukee and they all fail just like everyone else. The Milwaukee nailers have not been out long enough for one of them to need service yet. The Hitachi we used never had to be serviced yet so also cant speak to that.
But more on the cost. Up here gas is $18 a cell we bought it by the case so it cost us less. Let's say $10 per cell. 1000 nails per cell on a shop build we run 15000 plus nails so $150. We are building a pig barn on the same site that's another 30000 plus nails so $300 now I'm at $450 in gas that's only 2 builds. I can buy all new cordless nails every 6 months and it's more economical than running paslode. Now I'm not saying paslode is no good we ran them for years and they were awesome for running around doing details but for a main framing nailer in our use case it doesn't make sense.
@@gingrichconstruction7242 Not saying you were denying, I'm referring to others with reviews who don't go into the details. They say these are maintenance free which isn't true. I hear you on the gas savings, just want to know how this is offset with a couple of services etc, as I said, no idea what that is, it's like a little secret. A few have said they lost gas and had them serviced, but won't give up the info. I'll bet their sponsors are not keen to share that. Thanks
@@oo0Spyder0oo I'll try and remember to ask the tool store if they have a cost on a service/ recharge. I'm sure that they do on the Hitachi. Keep in mind this is Canada so we pay a lot more for stuff then if your from the USA. I know what you say service free definitely doesn't mean maintenance free!! I'm sure that we will never be sponsored by a tool company we are way to hard on tools lol! Two jobs ago we burnt out 4 of the drills a gen 1 fuel and 3 gen 2 we had tried the gen 3 last year but they simply dont last..... the drills covered under warranty they gave us gen 3 as replacements for the gen 2! Hopefully they last better then the first gen 3 we had.
@@gingrichconstruction7242 I'm in Aus so our dollar is very close to yours, used to be on parity for quite a while. I usually buy stuff in CAD dollars to save a bit against my own currency sometimes. For eg. the Hikoki framer is $949 AUD with 2 x 5.0ah batteries and charger. That's around $890 CAD at the current rate, how does that compare your way?
The hikoki/ Hitachi framing nailer is only available up here in the 3 ah kits for $580. The tool store I deal with doesn't carry Hitachi and so they do not have service pricing. Now they are a authorized Milwaukee repair center but they still do not have pricing on repairs with the new nailers. For the first 3 months with Milwaukee tools we walk in and give them the tool that failed and they give us a new one. So we should have pricing in a few months.
Is everyone on YT Canadian anymore!?!?!??
Safety features maybe?
Ya... I'm not a big fan of to many safety features common sense is of much more value. Yes I realize that some safety features are good.
@@gingrichconstruction7242 the problem is as always, it took the few to ruin it for the many. There's always that one nudnick. I've seen two guys shoot themselves through the hand with framing guns in 20 years as a builder. Luckily , it was when I was an employee and not an employer.
Push and hold is a safety feature. A lot of idiots can use these tools too.
In the time you would have spent re routing the air line pressing a button for 5 seconds doesn’t look to bad 🤷🏽♂️
I agree we just happen to want it all!
@@gingrichconstruction7242 I think the press and hold is there so that it doesn't accidentally get turned off, or accidentally get switched to a different mode, which I don't think is bad, of course I don't make a living using these tools so I am an outsider looking in. I do however agree with you that the tool should remember the last mode it was in, and if they can't program that into the tool then switch the button for a switch
I hope you didn't pay $750. I just ordered mine and it was $450 for the kit!
I'm in Canada so we are paying 750. Down there its 450
I’m in Calgary and I paid 549 with battery 5 amp, charger and bag at HD
For maximum safety, the framing nailer defaults to single fire mode after turning off. If it goes to bump fire mode, there is a high risk injury happening when the tip gets bumped against your body.
They are great nailers for the first 3 to 4 months then they start to lose their air and they won't sink nails, I work at home depot and we are starting to get a lot back,these battery operated are not that good for constant use, the finish nailer are good but these framing nailer are a problem
We are seeing around 10,000-15000 nails on average. We have not had issues with loosing air. Its the striker that has been failing. We really were hoping they would be good but..... they still are our go to for smaller jobs
@@gingrichconstruction7242 That's what they're perfect for they aren't going to replace airguns anytime soon, just like impact wrenches they wear out in about a year air guns if oil properly can last years
@@loucifer323 I'll argue on the impacts. Our structural steel guys are getting a lot more life out of the electric. We have impacts from 2015 still. But in shops this could be different.
@@gingrichconstruction7242 They'll last a long time in construction, but in auto repair they've used all day sometimes 7 times a week and the anvil wear out
I bought the nail gun for convenience. I'm in commercial roofing, and we have a project that has us traversing six small roofs. I would say we use it lightly in constructing bases for condensers and wood block perimeters. It's suitable for what I'm using mine for. It sounds like these framing nailer wears down drastically for the career framers in months because they can't handle constant use like the pneumatic guns.
They cost $350. Bare tool at home depot
We only have kits available in Canada. I probably shouldn't have said pricing because it's so different from usa. Thanks for pointing that out!
THATS WHAT YOU CALL THE MAKERS ARE NOT REALLY ON THE FIELD AND THEY JUST THERE INSIDE THEIR OFFICE MAKING A GUN! THEY ARE NOT HANDS ON!
Their not $750 their $350 TO $450 tool only at HD
I'm in Canada we pay 750 for the kit.
To me, it seems that the words electronic and nail guns shouldn’t go together.
The silly on/off mode buttons are a terrible design, the Hitachi is even worse, I really hope Hitachi listens to the complaints and does a 2nd generation
To bad these things weigh double as much as a pneumatic gun
They are not heavier than a the big coil nailers but yes it would be nice if they were lighter. But on the other hand not having hoses catching is worth a lot as well
F*cking giver bud
Things too heavy and I’m no wimp
Everyone who complains ablut that bump fire mode button is just lazy asf. Yeah we might not like it but its not that big of an issue, you people are just getting lazier and lazier over the years and wanting something you dont even have to move to get working lol
It's more a case of wasting time standing pushing a button when we could be working. Fortunately it stays on for around 1 hr after you turn it on so its never a problem we can stop for lunch etc. And never have to turn them back on during a day.
@@gingrichconstruction7242 how much time do you really lose by pressing the button, seriously
The dewalt works u dweeb
Lol love the straight out comment! I know of one other crew that really likes the dewalt as well! I dont know what you guys are doing but it must be working!
Gingrich Construction 1st gen dewalt over here I use it as a hammer and framing nailer. Works on everything except really old growth hardwoods when were doing remodels. It sure is bulky though compared to those slick milwaukees you got eh