In my opinion 5th gen is more believable. 6th gen, not so much. Military contractors like to use the generation terminology for marketing purposes and there is not much to show that there is a significant step between the 5th and 6th generation (at least from what we have seen so far from all the programs). Just have to wait and see what becomes of Tempest since the Japanese are probrally going to part take in that.
@@rajoferrer6148 Yeah, that was my understanding aswell to a large degree. Either way, whether a new sixth gen actually has greatly improved stealth, range, payload, avionics, cost, interoperability or even autonomy, if it's improved in any way over fifth gen in a theoretical fight against a belligerent Russia and China - I'll take it!
4G = Collection of SubSystems - 5G = F35 = Single Platform System of Systems - 6G = Networked AI Assisted Multi-Platform System of Systems = Piloted Command & Control Fighter platform that can Dogfight + Evade + Strike on its own - but dramatically increases effectiveness & survivability by commanding an airborne battlegroup of Air Combat + Strike + ISR + EW + Tanker + Data Center Drones - that are dedicated role to minimize cost = Attritable - to take a bullet for the boss = MQ25 + MQ28 + XQ58...
6G Next Generation Air Dominance prototype has undergone at least 1 year of flight testing after only 1 year of development without time consuming + costly physical tech demonstrators using the Digital Trinity = There Is No Spoon = Agile Software Development + Modular Open Systems Architecture + Digital Engineering - that allow all contractors + suppliers to Virtually conceive + develop + test + evaluate + maintain an eFighter - the same approach to be employed by BAE for Tempest but not by Dassault for FCAS - the reason Tempest is planned to fly at least a decade sooner than FCAS...
Beautiful footage! When I was 4-5 years old (52 years ago!), my father was in the USAF and stationed at MacDill AFB in Tampa, FL. We had a house off-base that was in a development pretty much off the end of one of the runways. So I always got to see and hear all manner of aircraft coming and going. But my all-time favorite was, and still is, the F-4 Phantom. To me they are the best of the best. Ever.
Fantastic fighter jet Japan looking forward to seeing the 5th6th fighter jets keep them rolling love the coverage of military fighter jets you brave guys girls keeping us safe great work 🇬🇧❤️💯👍
Planes I could watch fly till the end of time: F-104 Starfighter, F-4 Phantom, F-16 Fighting Falcon, B-1 Lancer, F7F Tigercat, FW-190, F6F Hellcat, P-47 Thunderbolt, Douglas A-1 Skyraider, RAF Spitfire, Hawker Sea Fury, the British V-bombers the Victor, Vulcan and Valiant, the mighty Convair B-58 Hustler, and of course the speed queen herself the Lockheed SR-71. Love the video!
Le F4 je l'ai vu a la BA124 il est énorme en comparaison des avions Francais Mirage 2000, f1 etc etc et de tous c'est celui qui fait le plus de bruit "il casse le ciel" et l'on voit la fumée de ses réacteurs a des kms. En gros c'est un monstre
I was based at raf upper heyford near Oxford England 75-77 and from my viewpoint in the tower from the catwalk (weather obs) I watched a workman in civilian clothes walking the flight line coming to the tower area. He seemed to get curious about the f4's parked nearby and decided to walk over to one and put his hand on it. About that time several sp's arrived with guns out. I think he was just curious but no one was amused. Except for maybe my very young self.
F-4's look bad -ass even today. USAF model F-4's smoked so bad.. you could see them coming, long before even hearing them. 2 F-4's incoming, looked like a forest fire on the horizon, The weather at Ramstein AB was shitty enough, launch 2 or more F-4's and the day was pretty much shot.
Seems those F-4 engines must have gotten quite some improvements/upgrades considering the significantly reduced smoke trail compared to the late German Air Force F-4´s (withdrawn from service in 2013) ... Interesting to see another difference: The gear retraction sequence. Seems much faster compared to same aircraft types in other forces and - at least as shown in this video - the "gear up" upon take off is literally just immediately after lift off (maybe a JASDF specialty)
not much flair went those f 4s land. no bounce, but looks hard on the air frame. since those frame are decades old, one would expect that the pilots would be more gentle on those landings.
I read that the Japanese retired the F4 a year ago. Was this taken last year? The F4s are beautiful planes. We had them at Ellington AFB in Houston until we switched to F16s years ago.
Thanks for the comment bud. Yes the Dominie and the U-125 are essentially the same aircraft, these Japanese ones are used for search and rescue (SAR) and flight inspection 👍
That's... that's not how stealth works... Speed isn't the end-all be-all of aircraft anymore. That time has passed. What matters now is a plane being stealthy enough to hit the enemy without the enemy even seeing them, whick both the F-22 and F-35 do effectively.
Is my 74 year old vision ok??? I swear to gawd I thought I saw an F-4??? Naw, that can't be right, or is it LOL? In l965 I was assigned to the 67th Tac Ftr Squadron stationed on Okinawa...our pilots flew the F-105 but there were of course F-4's assigned there as well..let's do the math? 53 years ago if I'm not mistaken...how is it the Japanese are still flying those Phantom's? I do not believe that there are few if any F-105's still in existence...amazing.
These are heavily modernized phantoms used only for reconnaissance. They fly the f-2 (modified f-16) and f-35 as fighters. Japan also can’t technically have an Air Force because of their constitution, so it’s a “self defence force”
@@cfranko1860 same goes with their navy. Self defense force but much more capable navy that any other navy. Other countries barely have 4 or 5 destroyers. And they have 30 something.
@@christianjunhoffman9142 this isn’t the main air-force base. If you want to look at fighter jets in Japan there’re plenty of videos out there here on YT. Recent one I watched was the Americans and the Japanese flying alongside to send message to Russia and China after Biden left Japan (as they harassed us during the QUAD, China is childish really..). It was F15-s if I recall correctly. Besides, the Japanese pay for American servicemen to be stationed in Japan (we share the cost) on top of these self-defense forces. There’re like 25 US bases in Japan, and 100s of thousands of US servicemen in Japan. Meaningless to have exact same functions. And the Japanese and American government sit down annually to go over what budget to allocate for what services etc. Supposed to work in synergy, not really neglected.
![Japanese F-4EJ Kai Phantoms operating from Hyakuri Air Base, Japan [HD]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/wOCxQzgbk04/mqdefault.jpg)
Can't wait to see Japan's new 5th/6th gen fighter. I hope I got my gens right there. Those old Phantoms (or equivalent) still look amazing too.
In my opinion 5th gen is more believable. 6th gen, not so much. Military contractors like to use the generation terminology for marketing purposes and there is not much to show that there is a significant step between the 5th and 6th generation (at least from what we have seen so far from all the programs). Just have to wait and see what becomes of Tempest since the Japanese are probrally going to part take in that.
@@rajoferrer6148 Yeah, that was my understanding aswell to a large degree. Either way, whether a new sixth gen actually has greatly improved stealth, range, payload, avionics, cost, interoperability or even autonomy, if it's improved in any way over fifth gen in a theoretical fight against a belligerent Russia and China - I'll take it!
4G = Collection of SubSystems - 5G = F35 = Single Platform System of Systems - 6G = Networked AI Assisted Multi-Platform System of Systems = Piloted Command & Control Fighter platform that can Dogfight + Evade + Strike on its own - but dramatically increases effectiveness & survivability by commanding an airborne battlegroup of Air Combat + Strike + ISR + EW + Tanker + Data Center Drones - that are dedicated role to minimize cost = Attritable - to take a bullet for the boss = MQ25 + MQ28 + XQ58...
6G Next Generation Air Dominance prototype has undergone at least 1 year of flight testing after only 1 year of development without time consuming + costly physical tech demonstrators using the Digital Trinity = There Is No Spoon = Agile Software Development + Modular Open Systems Architecture + Digital Engineering - that allow all contractors + suppliers to Virtually conceive + develop + test + evaluate + maintain an eFighter - the same approach to be employed by BAE for Tempest but not by Dassault for FCAS - the reason Tempest is planned to fly at least a decade sooner than FCAS...
Phantoms are decommissioned already in 2020/21. Apparently this was filmed in 2018.
Beautiful footage! When I was 4-5 years old (52 years ago!), my father was in the USAF and stationed at MacDill AFB in Tampa, FL. We had a house off-base that was in a development pretty much off the end of one of the runways. So I always got to see and hear all manner of aircraft coming and going. But my all-time favorite was, and still is, the F-4 Phantom. To me they are the best of the best. Ever.
Thanks for the kind words and the comment 👍
F4 launches were awesome
Nice music-free video. I could just focus on the jet sounds. Thank you for posting.
You’re welcome bud. I never use music in my vids, just jet noise 😎👍
Brings me back to Atsugi and Camp ZAMA hahaha miss Japan. Love seeing the F-4 Phantom still kicking ass and taking names!
awesome...the JSDAF ( Japan Self Defense Force Air Forces ) are high Skill and still maintain the old skulz F 4 Phantom
Fantastic fighter jet Japan looking forward to seeing the 5th6th fighter jets keep them rolling love the coverage of military fighter jets you brave guys girls keeping us safe great work 🇬🇧❤️💯👍
Thanks for the support as always Andrew 👍
These bloody thing are nearly 60 years old! Imagine still flying Spitfires or Mustangs in the year 2000!
It's just nice to see some countries still use the Phantom's
That was awesome to see all those F-4's.
Very disciplined people in the armed self defence forces.
A force to be be reckoned with.
Japanese are smart people can face any security challenges.
😎
seeing the pilots open the canopies, comparing the sizes. The F-4 is a very big fighter.
Beautiful video. F-4E Phantom II the best, General Electric J79-GE17 Power.
Thanks for the support 👍
I loved working on the F-4 but those center tanks are a pain to work around. Most USAF Phantoms used wing tanks.
I’m amazed they can keep those f4s in service.
F-4E and RF-4E is magnificent 🤩
Planes I could watch fly till the end of time: F-104 Starfighter, F-4 Phantom, F-16 Fighting Falcon, B-1 Lancer, F7F Tigercat, FW-190, F6F Hellcat, P-47 Thunderbolt, Douglas A-1 Skyraider, RAF Spitfire, Hawker Sea Fury, the British V-bombers the Victor, Vulcan and Valiant, the mighty Convair B-58 Hustler, and of course the speed queen herself the Lockheed SR-71. Love the video!
Thanks a lot bud, what a list of awesome aircraft 😎👍
Le F4 je l'ai vu a la BA124 il est énorme en comparaison des avions Francais Mirage 2000, f1 etc etc et de tous c'est celui qui fait le plus de bruit "il casse le ciel" et l'on voit la fumée de ses réacteurs a des kms. En gros c'est un monstre
my uncle flew uh-60s... the beautiful sound 👌
Very cool!
also does not shock me that a Japanese engineered f4 does not smoke, wonder if they could fix the same issue with a Mig29?
Can't beat the roar of the original F-4 Rhino!
I agree. Love that sound!
I was based at raf upper heyford near Oxford England 75-77 and from my viewpoint in the tower from the catwalk (weather obs) I watched a workman in civilian clothes walking the flight line coming to the tower area. He seemed to get curious about the f4's parked nearby and decided to walk over to one and put his hand on it. About that time several sp's arrived with guns out. I think he was just curious but no one was amused. Except for maybe my very young self.
😲😲😲 I bet he never tried that again!
F-4's look bad -ass even today. USAF model F-4's smoked so bad.. you could see them coming, long before even hearing them. 2 F-4's incoming, looked like a forest fire on the horizon, The weather at Ramstein AB was shitty enough, launch 2 or more F-4's and the day was pretty much shot.
Seems those F-4 engines must have gotten quite some improvements/upgrades considering the significantly reduced smoke trail compared to the late German Air Force F-4´s (withdrawn from service in 2013) ...
Interesting to see another difference: The gear retraction sequence. Seems much faster compared to same aircraft types in other forces and - at least as shown in this video - the "gear up" upon take off is literally just immediately after lift off (maybe a JASDF specialty)
not much flair went those f 4s land. no bounce, but looks hard on the air frame. since those frame are decades old, one would expect that the pilots would be more gentle on those landings.
I read that the Japanese retired the F4 a year ago. Was this taken last year? The F4s are beautiful planes. We had them at Ellington AFB in Houston until we switched to F16s years ago.
Actually those phantoms are no longer in service. All of them are withdrawn in 2021.
True.
やっぱファントムが一番だわ。コロナがなければどんなによかったか…
退役したけどね
@@hikakin_mania440近くの国だと韓国がまだ運用中だし行きたいっすわ
The F4 is almost twice as fast as a F35.
Not about speed. It's about how fast you can change speed and direction.
Yeah, theoretical top speed is meaningless if reaching it is costly and impractical
@@JoshX9706 read up on the late John Boyd. The math is way over my head but his conclusions are very important.
@@robertblackwood3438 oh yeah the ooda loop is pretty interesting
I hope those F-4's go into preservation and are kept in flying condition when they JSDF retires them
F4`s require earplugs... saw hundreds of em taking off/landing many years ago
Nice to see BAE 125 -would this be the same as the Dominie ?? Love the Phantoms in green and grey camo -very sinister looking !
Thanks for the comment bud. Yes the Dominie and the U-125 are essentially the same aircraft, these Japanese ones are used for search and rescue (SAR) and flight inspection 👍
awesome aircraft
Good plan for defense, more to come
Still in use F-4 :)
Wow, nice. In ww2, there must be bunch of aircraft in there.
Maybe we can make the F-4 Phantom stealthy. It a heckuva lot faster than the stuff we're flying now.
That's... that's not how stealth works...
Speed isn't the end-all be-all of aircraft anymore. That time has passed. What matters now is a plane being stealthy enough to hit the enemy without the enemy even seeing them, whick both the F-22 and F-35 do effectively.
I thought Japan stopped using the F-4 in December 2020 ?
Yep, this was shot in 2018 👍👍
久しぶりのファントムだ！
Is my 74 year old vision ok??? I swear to gawd I thought I saw an F-4??? Naw, that can't be right, or is it LOL? In l965 I was assigned to the 67th Tac Ftr Squadron stationed on Okinawa...our pilots flew the F-105 but there were of course F-4's assigned there as well..let's do the math? 53 years ago if I'm not mistaken...how is it the Japanese are still flying those Phantom's? I do not believe that there are few if any F-105's still in existence...amazing.
Phantom’s is retired technically in Japan.
I thought they retired the Phantom????
When was this recorded? I thought JASDF decommissioned all RF-4s in 2020
This was shot in 2018, I’ve been so busy with other content I let it slip, but now it’s finally time to get it all out on the channel!
@@UKAviationMovies Maybe you should put that in the description. Phantoms were decommissioned in 2021 I believe.
@@KittenBowl1 good shout, definitely don’t want to mislead folks 👍
R u ready to take on the Nippers again?
I thought Japan retired their F4 Phantom Fleet
This was shot in 2018. Only just getting around to editing all the footage :)
Im amazed to see as much how technological advance japan is. They still use f4 phantoms. I think japanese airforce is neglected.
These are heavily modernized phantoms used only for reconnaissance. They fly the f-2 (modified f-16) and f-35 as fighters. Japan also can’t technically have an Air Force because of their constitution, so it’s a “self defence force”
@@cfranko1860 same goes with their navy. Self defense force but much more capable navy that any other navy. Other countries barely have 4 or 5 destroyers. And they have 30 something.
@@christianjunhoffman9142 this isn’t the main air-force base. If you want to look at fighter jets in Japan there’re plenty of videos out there here on YT. Recent one I watched was the Americans and the Japanese flying alongside to send message to Russia and China after Biden left Japan (as they harassed us during the QUAD, China is childish really..). It was F15-s if I recall correctly. Besides, the Japanese pay for American servicemen to be stationed in Japan (we share the cost) on top of these self-defense forces. There’re like 25 US bases in Japan, and 100s of thousands of US servicemen in Japan. Meaningless to have exact same functions. And the Japanese and American government sit down annually to go over what budget to allocate for what services etc. Supposed to work in synergy, not really neglected.
I thought Japan grounded the last phantoms in 2019
Espetaculares.
Old jet fighter 😁
おぉ日本の戦闘きやな？
👏👏👏🔟🇧🇷
Tbh the t4 looks like its powered by the pilots' farts. It's all cockpit and no engine
Dumbest troll comment on any channel.
f4 e nuvo radera del Rafael espiral pitra a ti radera
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